This is my favorite trail! Including the little extra credit patch. If you walk up that little hill at the very top where you setup your drone there's an amazing view spot like less than a minutes walk.
For the climb, you do on this trail and the features it has I gotta say it's the most fun I have ridden so far in my 2 years of MTBiking. I did go off a cliff on one of my solo rides here. Went down about 15-20 feet and man was that scary AF!
Arrived late. Friends were 1/4 way up Toll Road. (Had to estimate, 90s, no cell phones) caught up with them and road down this on my rigid KHS Comp. I remember chunky stuff, and lots of water crossings. Epic.
This looks promising. I feel you are prepping for the Mt Wilson DH, finally! I really think you & Alan should hit it together. El P is the last section, where you’re super exhausted and merely holding on for dear life to get back to the car! lolol. Can’t wait for THAT vlog!! 😎🤘🏼
Finally you filmed Brown El P! My local ride. Just rode this on Sunday. It gets crowded on the weekends but you can’t beat the downhill-flow and tech! I still can’t ride that one left steep tight switchback. You should ride Mt Lowe to Lower Merrill and Sunset sometime!
In August, I rode a monster 28 mile loop up Mt. Lowe connecting to Gabrielino Trail at Red Box Ranger Station. This was the classic 90's route I did as a teenager. However, I wouldn't recommend Gabrielino, the two upper sections are overgrown and/or damaged, and the lower section is overrun by hikers. This looks much better. I'm glad to see Tony overcoming his acrophobia, that can't be very pleasant. This one really gets going around 5:42 with great editing and a choice selection of upbeat music.
@@TheOutsiderMTB it's funny, this trail (the upper part) looks very similar to one of my fave local trails up here in L.A. (Kenter Whoops) with steep exposure off to the right and I had visions of how cool it would be to have the Skydio follow off to the side at about the same elevation to get a good "side profile" view... and you got some of those shots in this vid... and it looks even better than I imagined. Oh and excellent music bed too... I had my good headphones in and was like, Oooohhh this bumps
Is this area referred to as brown mtn ?? If so I rode there in the 90’s when we had pedal power with only human assistance . Then I’d go to the rose bowl on Wednesday afternoons to link up with the LA sheriff cycling team to do loops around the rose bowl . Yeah back then I was a cat 2 roady & held a Norba pro x-country license & Norba pro down hill license . The access road ride was fun due to the decent which was shoots off the access road . It now looks super overgrown as back then you could rip down on the access road 2 abreast .
watching this get my damn adrenaline pumping and I'm not even ridding !!! Awesome video . I wonder how this trails work on a hardtail. New sub BTW keep it up.
If you are not familiar, you definitely need to look into FAA part 107 since your channel is monetized. You are likely to wind up with some unwanted attention from the FAA due to the drone footage. Love the channel. Just some friendly advice from a pilot who rides.
Cool, I probably climbed Brown Mountain fire road 100 times over the years. BTW, the "extra credit" tag you did was about 3 miles and it was up to the trailhead of the Burton Trail. Thanks for this video. I was wondering about the condition of the trails up there, and they look to be in great shape.
I was doing upper gabrielino and went up ken burton by mistake. I will never forget not to do that again, anyway that's how I found out about brown mountain and el prieto.
First off Hellzzz yaz Love when you hit your Cali spots , That trail Monroe and Marshall are all better ridden on slack hardtails , there not rough enough to warrant full squish . We took a group of hardtails up last weekend to hit all three and all the guys have full sus and modern HT They all agreed HT was the more fun on those particular trails .. said it’s more exciting
I literally just moved here from Tampa FL few weeks ago and my GF took my hiking on this trail and was super sad i sold my MTB desperately wanna get a new one!
Not to take away from your channel but I have dozens of videos of Brown and El Prieto. I’m actually the local legend on Strava on all the main trails since I ride almost daily and this is my local mountain. Totally worth the extra effort to climb to the top and it’s a trail that is pretty easy to ride with a hardtail or even a rigid SS if you’re up for that.
@@TheOutsiderMTB BTW you edited out some of the technical switchback sections and some of the jumps and more technical lines that the locals know. My videos are not edited and show the complete trail. KOM on El P is 7 minutes and the average local riders do it in 8-10mins. It gets overly crowded with hikers looking for the waterfalls on the Gabriellino Trail that is to the left of those houses and along the fence line as you enter the mountains off the pavement.
@@TheOutsiderMTB your videos are great! Love the drone footage, keep it up, looking forward to more. I wasn’t trying to be offensive, I just love my local trails and was sharing my perspective.
I halfway thought this was gonna be about Sullivan Canyon flow. Most of the OC folks I know have done some combination of Brown, El Prieto, and Ken Burton a time or two. I've never been though. 😐
Dont think you're missing out too too much. OC has much more intense chunky high skill trails. LA county has those grueling climbs and very long descents, but everything can be done on a hardtail. Very little to no chunk in LA
What’s a good trail to ride when wet? I know it’s not like the pnw where riding is year round but anything decent riding down here when it rains and won’t ruin up the trail
Guess... Tony’s wrong again!!! lol This is actually the first trail I ever Mtn biked on! Only made it up about half the climb... It was a rough ride on a 40 lbs Huffy!!!
dunno how you got away with doing the El Prieto without a single hiker coming up. Every freakin' time I hit it, there's like a dozen or more hikers wishing to throw me off the edge or something.
You cant ride JPL or El P without the Captain!! I'm bummed I didn't suggest a drone name. If i knew you would go with something so simple like droney mcdroneface I would have said name it Old BLUE. Like the guy from old school cuz he is always looking down on you while he's buzzin' up in heaven!!!
@@TheOutsiderMTB The guy at the store also told me XL but said 27.5 What makes 29 better? And what type of bike should I get for places like the Santa Monica mountains? Are the REI ones around $700 any good of should I move up?
@@TheOutsiderMTB Got u. But at what price point should I look? How much did you spend for instance if you don't mind me asking? Should I go with a brand like Cannondale or Salsa from REI? Or get a brand like Canyon from online?
I put off riding for a long time and moving, depression, life etc kept me from riding. Now my bikes are ancient (26" wheels and mid 2000's frames with slightly newer forks) You think these are still capable?? I really need a LA based MTB shop to help me re-tune my bikes... Any suggestions? I know the Path in OC but I live in the South Bay
@@TheOutsiderMTB That is the relatively new size that didn't exist back in the day, right? What makes you choose those? I'm a tall rider, so should I go with that tire size?
This is my favorite trail! Including the little extra credit patch. If you walk up that little hill at the very top where you setup your drone there's an amazing view spot like less than a minutes walk.
Next time - awesome!
For the climb, you do on this trail and the features it has I gotta say it's the most fun I have ridden so far in my 2 years of MTBiking. I did go off a cliff on one of my solo rides here. Went down about 15-20 feet and man was that scary AF!
Rode this dozens of times but then again it's my backyard trail 😉
Arrived late. Friends were 1/4 way up Toll Road. (Had to estimate, 90s, no cell phones) caught up with them and road down this on my rigid KHS Comp. I remember chunky stuff, and lots of water crossings. Epic.
Wow I have been riding this for about 25 years thanks Tony!!
Right on!
Nice, my backyard jam! Fun to watch one of your videos where I'm intimately familiar with every turn.
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This looks promising. I feel you are prepping for the Mt Wilson DH, finally!
I really think you & Alan should hit it together.
El P is the last section, where you’re super exhausted and merely holding on for dear life to get back to the car! lolol. Can’t wait for THAT vlog!! 😎🤘🏼
Can't wait!
I love that loop. You should try the sunset ridge to horse trail. Horse trail has a bunch of little jumps and sunset is super fun.
I'll check it out!
Those drone shots are great it gives a different perspective of the ridding just great video.
Thank you
Whelp gonna have to add it to the backlog lol, never been! Those are some awesome technical sections towards the end. Sick video Tony! Great shots.
Glad you enjoyed it Mathew!
El Prieto was a secret 20 years ago. Not so much anymore! Still a great trail. Just rode it last week and have my own video on that trail.
Very cool!
Finally you filmed Brown El P! My local ride. Just rode this on Sunday. It gets crowded on the weekends but you can’t beat the downhill-flow and tech! I still can’t ride that one left steep tight switchback. You should ride Mt Lowe to Lower Merrill and Sunset sometime!
Soon thanks!
Never done the extra credit bit but I definitely want to give it a shot and holy cow you are flying down this hill!
Get at it!
7 miles of fun!! Drone footage looked 👍🏼
Yepppp! Thanks man!
I was sure you had already done El Prieto! I used to do this 3x a week when I live in Pasadena in the late 90s to 2010...awesome ride, never gets old.
Very cool!
Where do you live now?
Brown MTN Road editing transition was 🔥! Actually the whole vid was dope. Ever think of doing this full time? 😬✌🏼🤟🏼
Haha thanks my dude! Hmmm... perhaps.
In August, I rode a monster 28 mile loop up Mt. Lowe connecting to Gabrielino Trail at Red Box Ranger Station. This was the classic 90's route I did as a teenager. However, I wouldn't recommend Gabrielino, the two upper sections are overgrown and/or damaged, and the lower section is overrun by hikers. This looks much better. I'm glad to see Tony overcoming his acrophobia, that can't be very pleasant. This one really gets going around 5:42 with great editing and a choice selection of upbeat music.
Thanks Robert and appreciate the update!
Prietonis a great trail, been a while since I rode it. Solid video, great use of McDroneface and loved the transitions
Awesome, thank you!
Finally some LA County!
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Kinda surprised you didn’t come down Ken Burton but I guess then you would have missed El Prieto. Great video!
Thanks 👍 Next time!
"i bet you havent ridden here" lol i used to go to these trails all the time, hiking and biking
I have ridden that trail a few times. It's fantastic. Thanks for your great videos.
Glad you enjoy it!
That drone is bad ass 🤘 Awesome addition 🍻.
Thank you!
I second that...I can't believe the production quality! Was it able to tail you without a human operator?
I have a beacon and decide myself how it follows before taking off. It’s autonomous.
Which drone did you use?
@@endleesss Skydio 2. Check my previous vids for more info.
Thank you for finally doing a video where u include el prieto. Great video like always.
My pleasure!
Awesome! These are the types of epic drone shots I had in mind when I bought that thing! I'm glad you are putting it to good use!
Thanks again! Took me a bit to figure out but well worth it my friend.
@@TheOutsiderMTB it's funny, this trail (the upper part) looks very similar to one of my fave local trails up here in L.A. (Kenter Whoops) with steep exposure off to the right and I had visions of how cool it would be to have the Skydio follow off to the side at about the same elevation to get a good "side profile" view... and you got some of those shots in this vid... and it looks even better than I imagined. Oh and excellent music bed too... I had my good headphones in and was like, Oooohhh this bumps
@@Kampy_ Haha awesome to hear bud. Love it.
Just got back from Sedona AND the outsider posted....😩😩
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Is this area referred to as brown mtn ?? If so I rode there in the 90’s when we had pedal power with only human assistance . Then I’d go to the rose bowl on Wednesday afternoons to link up with the LA sheriff cycling team to do loops around the rose bowl . Yeah back then I was a cat 2 roady & held a Norba pro x-country license & Norba pro down hill license . The access road ride was fun due to the decent which was shoots off the access road . It now looks super overgrown as back then you could rip down on the access road 2 abreast .
Yup - cool info!
watching this get my damn adrenaline pumping and I'm not even ridding !!! Awesome video . I wonder how this trails work on a hardtail.
New sub BTW keep it up.
Welcome aboard. 💥👊👍
It's great on a hardtail. Ride it frequently, and take many of the same lines as in the video. although a little slower. On a speczd fuse 29.
You're in my hood, welcome.... this is were a learned to mountain bike
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Nice vid. But Bruh where have YOU'VE been? haha Great Trail! One my favorites.
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I notice you are reaching for the Jeffsy Blaze more and more. That high end rockshox suspension really turns it into a shred machine.
I think it's more about going to the trail bike for longer climbs, but I do love it.
Love the drone footage so much! Really makes the video so much different and a cooler perspective!
Thanks so much!!
You should go to Ellicottville in New York
Very far drive, but I'll add it to my list.
@@TheOutsiderMTB the grills are insane and the bike park is fun
If you are not familiar, you definitely need to look into FAA part 107 since your channel is monetized. You are likely to wind up with some unwanted attention from the FAA due to the drone footage. Love the channel. Just some friendly advice from a pilot who rides.
Thanks for the info!
Cool, I probably climbed Brown Mountain fire road 100 times over the years. BTW, the "extra credit" tag you did was about 3 miles and it was up to the trailhead of the Burton Trail. Thanks for this video. I was wondering about the condition of the trails up there, and they look to be in great shape.
Very cool!
Left the LA area years ago, thank God I was able to get out. THIS is the only thing I miss about it.
I love the brown climb. I usually go to the saddle and do EL P without th eextra credit but I 'll have to try this
Good stuff!
I struggled with a few spots in El P. Definitely sketchy in places. Nice ride as usual!
Thanks! 👍
would love to mtb w/u sometime haha but im beginner and just built emtb!
I host group rides for all levels on Patreon if you're interested. One at the end of the month.
Cool drone shots there!!
Thanks! 👍
Dang..that's a lot of climbing! Got to pay for the downs....great work Tony!
Thanks 👍
Very cool trail man! That was definitely one of my favourites that you have shared.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was doing upper gabrielino and went up ken burton by mistake. I will never forget not to do that again, anyway that's how I found out about brown mountain and el prieto.
Haha wow!
Awesome ride man, it's nice to see some footage of a new trail!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Beautiful ride! I'm going to try this after work this week. Your links are not hyperlinked, though.
Updated - thanks!
That trail was savage!
Great Video, thanks Tony. I am not very far from this location. I will definitely go ride it👏😎
Have fun!
AWSOME !
CAN YOU DO BLACK STAR CANYON , CITY OF SILVERADO !!!!!! ?????
Damn stop yelling we can all hear you fine. Black star drone footage would be dope though.
We'll see!
Nice to see ya do the trail again. Just updated with droney. Does this mean youre gonna redo a lot of the trail guides? 2021 updates?
This ride hasn't been on the trail before. I wouldn't say redo trail guides unless the area calls for one.
3 miles to the saddle, 3 more to the top of Brown Mtn.
First off Hellzzz yaz
Love when you hit your Cali spots ,
That trail Monroe and Marshall are all better ridden on slack hardtails , there not rough enough to warrant full squish .
We took a group of hardtails up last weekend to hit all three and all the guys have full sus and modern HT
They all agreed HT was the more fun on those particular trails .. said it’s more exciting
Good stuff!
Planning to hit it on Thurs!
I literally just moved here from Tampa FL few weeks ago and my GF took my hiking on this trail and was super sad i sold my MTB desperately wanna get a new one!
Get it!
Welcome to LA County!!! We "like" (actually, we have no choice) to climb!!! HAHA!!!
I'm ok with it. 😉
That looked like a really awesome ride ...how was the climb up ? how many miles do you think it was ?
Thanks - was 7 miles.
Shready ride! If you can check out some of the trails in Burbank area next time some good ones there too.
Sounds good!
Is this the trail you go on at the end of mt Wilson?
Yep!
Not to take away from your channel but I have dozens of videos of Brown and El Prieto. I’m actually the local legend on Strava on all the main trails since I ride almost daily and this is my local mountain. Totally worth the extra effort to climb to the top and it’s a trail that is pretty easy to ride with a hardtail or even a rigid SS if you’re up for that.
Sounds great!
@@TheOutsiderMTB BTW you edited out some of the technical switchback sections and some of the jumps and more technical lines that the locals know. My videos are not edited and show the complete trail. KOM on El P is 7 minutes and the average local riders do it in 8-10mins. It gets overly crowded with hikers looking for the waterfalls on the Gabriellino Trail that is to the left of those houses and along the fence line as you enter the mountains off the pavement.
@@hardmtnbiker You do you man - I'm not interested in making an edit that long. I'm not the local legend.
@@TheOutsiderMTB your videos are great! Love the drone footage, keep it up, looking forward to more. I wasn’t trying to be offensive, I just love my local trails and was sharing my perspective.
@@hardmtnbiker Haha I was messing with you. Hard to translate that over text sometimes. Thank you!
Wow that drone has solid following ability! May I ask which drone was that?
Thanks it's the Skydio2!
It's not as green,lush,or awesome as Western NC trails but it looks pretty fun.
Dude we shuttle this trail. Come with us bro! Lol
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I halfway thought this was gonna be about Sullivan Canyon flow. Most of the OC folks I know have done some combination of Brown, El Prieto, and Ken Burton a time or two. I've never been though. 😐
You're missing out - good times out there on this one.
Dont think you're missing out too too much. OC has much more intense chunky high skill trails. LA county has those grueling climbs and very long descents, but everything can be done on a hardtail. Very little to no chunk in LA
Those drone shots were so sick!
Thanks man!
Drone shots are epic! Does it automatically follow you?
Thanks - yup!
Sick video bro!!! What kind of drone is that?
Thanks! Skydio 2 - check the previous vids for more info and footy.
What’s a good trail to ride when wet? I know it’s not like the pnw where riding is year round but anything decent riding down here when it rains and won’t ruin up the trail
Check out the San Juan vid on this channel.
Ended up coming here to el prieto. Thank you for the suggestion
Guess... Tony’s wrong again!!! lol This is actually the first trail I ever Mtn biked on! Only made it up about half the climb... It was a rough ride on a 40 lbs Huffy!!!
Again? haha 😉
Watched this video last week hit the trail I MEAN FOOKEN TRAIL HIT ME TODAY 🤮🥴🤙🥲 🤣
You have some really nice trails there :-) But 100 deg 38 celsius in summer, thats hot :-)
True that!
dunno how you got away with doing the El Prieto without a single hiker coming up. Every freakin' time I hit it, there's like a dozen or more hikers wishing to throw me off the edge or something.
Haha I got lucky in a weekday.
Great video Tony Canelloni
Much appreciated Lee The Gee!
I found out about this trail a month or 2 ago, and it’s now my favorite. Question though- Is El P or Greer more chunky?
Eh they are just different. Greer is more groomed and El P is more natural terrain.
@@TheOutsiderMTB Gotcha. Greer is my next new trail to try out. 👍🏻
Another awesome ride bro
Thanks 👍
Hello, I am sort of a beginner and am wondering is you had your seat down and were on your feet the whole way down? Thanks
Most of it yes, unless there were spots to pedal up for a bit.
Nice drone shots! What YT bike where u riding?
Thanks! This is the Jeffsy Blaze. Check my new bike day vid for more info.
Awesome trail
You cant ride JPL or El P without the Captain!! I'm bummed I didn't suggest a drone name. If i knew you would go with something so simple like droney mcdroneface I would have said name it Old BLUE. Like the guy from old school cuz he is always looking down on you while he's buzzin' up in heaven!!!
Haha I think that name was suggested the most actually.
@@TheOutsiderMTB well now I feel like a trendy uncreative kook. Thanx Mr. Marinara 🍝 I thought I was all clever. 😎⚓👍
Haha - you’re just like me my friend.
@@TheOutsiderMTB fyi my mom was an extra at the pool scene when Will Farrell shoots himself in the neck with a tranq dart and hits the pool.
Well that’s amazing. One of my favorite scenes!
I just pulled something in my leg. I gotta just stop doing things lol
Odd.
@@TheOutsiderMTB it was joint i think
So how many miles was it total? I’m planning on going over there from Texas and definitely want to do this trail.
Around 15.
@@TheOutsiderMTB thanks brotha what other trail you recommend around the area?
@@AdrianCampos-ev4xl There are quite a few trails on this mountain to explore, as well. Check out the trailforks app.
@@TheOutsiderMTB thanks 🤙🏼
That’s a fun trail😁
Yep!
Tony do you have a code for SMPLSTC if I wanted to purchase something from them? keep up the great videos.
Yes I do - just asked them for one. 20% off with code outsider20. Goes live monday!
I want Jeffsy so bad, but its not available for order =(
Soon!
Very nice!
Thanks!
@@TheOutsiderMTB I'll have to get out there to ride more.
great vid, Tony! Can you tell me the name of the song? Where do you get your music?
Thanks Nate - I pay for a service from Epidemic that allows me to choose tracks to monetize. Glad you like my taste bud!
@@TheOutsiderMTB "taste bud" ?? Lol i see what you did there. 😂
What band is that at 3:00? Restavrant?
I get all my music from Epidemic.
What happened to the capra
I have it - just using the Jeffsy on the local trails for a bit.
Think YT will send you a Tues for park seazn?
I'll grab one from the HQ.
Hope to run into ya!
What size bike would you recommend for someone who is 6'3"? In terms of frame and tire size
Maybe Xl and 29ers.
@@TheOutsiderMTB The guy at the store also told me XL but said 27.5 What makes 29 better? And what type of bike should I get for places like the Santa Monica mountains? Are the REI ones around $700 any good of should I move up?
@luperamos7307 You should move up. Most bikes now are all 29s.
@@TheOutsiderMTB Got u. But at what price point should I look? How much did you spend for instance if you don't mind me asking? Should I go with a brand like Cannondale or Salsa from REI? Or get a brand like Canyon from online?
@luperamos7307 Talk to someone at your local shop or check out YT Industries for sales.
I put off riding for a long time and moving, depression, life etc kept me from riding. Now my bikes are ancient (26" wheels and mid 2000's frames with slightly newer forks) You think these are still capable?? I really need a LA based MTB shop to help me re-tune my bikes... Any suggestions? I know the Path in OC but I live in the South Bay
Glad you're back on the bike Brian. Not sure man, but maybe give it a go on some easier trails. Sorry I don't know any shops local to you.
@@TheOutsiderMTB You're based in OC?
Hi, what drone you used
Skydio 2
Thanks you are the best 🤝
How would you get to this location?
Check the links under the vid.👍
Have you ever encountered a mountain lion? I been wanting to go but I worry
Nope never!
@@TheOutsiderMTB sweet getting my Mtb this week . New sub !
@@dieselburner4461 When in doubt pack a 9!
@@user-ps4zi1ns8i seen a video once where it took more than a few shots to stop one.
Crazy
@@dieselburner4461 Get you a good Hollow Point round. The ones I got will leave that cat with a big 45 hole from that 9 😅
what drone are you using please?
Skydio 2 - check out some of the previous vids for more info. Cheers!
Drony from bruh Tony... 😎
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Good
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more la trails please :D
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The Music is too loud. But the Drone is a good idea.
What if you turned down your volume? 😉
@@TheOutsiderMTB no i turned it down. It is better without music imo just like your older videos
Weird I’m getting a lot of positive responses from the music. Trying for that balance for sure tho.
@@TheOutsiderMTB That's good when you get positive feedback. It's just my personal opinion. I think it's good that you respond to comments.
Always my friend. Thanks for the feedback as well.
What size are those tires?
29
@@TheOutsiderMTB That is the relatively new size that didn't exist back in the day, right? What makes you choose those? I'm a tall rider, so should I go with that tire size?
Check out my new bike day vid. ✔️👍😉
You are not scared riding there all by yourself?
Sometimes.
have you ebike this trail? can you do one?
Not yet - sure thing.
You can ride e-bikes here. I was doing my first climb when this ebiker was headed up for his second run lol!