@@bobbyali4496 8-10 mg./day. Not hard at all to do, just a couple of weeks of just being tired and negative. Then it all goes away. I still have some but not tempted to take it.
Thanks man I appreciate that. I loved getting through it. Congrats, that's a long ass time. Its a process, making it through all the psychological stuff especially..letting all the chemistry get back right. Sometimes it seems like it's not ever going to get better but it does..and I'm sure you see that by now.
@@tbruce7909 Dude, I still get "mini cravings" 8-9+ months clean from any opiates, but they only last about 2-5 minutes and I know how to combat them now! I just literally remind myself how far I've come, and how shitty my life was before. Almost instantly, my brain understands how stupid it would be to relapse haha. Once you start associating opiates with bad times and bad thoughts instead of glorifying or romanticizing about using again, it's much easier to control those cravings. Dude, not sure if you do this, but wake up everyday and right down 3-5 goals you want to get done. Helps me get started on the right path each day. Keep it up buddy, and feel free to reach out if you have any other questions about the process!! 😎🤙💪
@@knalledge2407 thank you! amazing advice! my problem is that when I'm not full of it i have demons to face, and they reflect my unguided upbringing of fucked up 1980s Glasgow when kids like myself ran riot with no one looking after us. back then paedos had their fill of young unprotected kids like myself!
I withdrew heavy for 2 days then it got better by the day. Im on day 11 now and finally feel 99% back to normal. 3yr kratom use, 3oz day at end. I pushed fluids, sweating, took cholodine and smoked hella weed. Awesome job and good luck to anyone going through this. It truly DOES get better and easier.
I’ve also been taking about 3oz a day for 3 years. When I first started it, I thought Kratom was a miracle plant, but tolerance is no joke. You start off low, but then want to continue experiencing that “fuzzy” feeling you got from the first time you took it. So you just take more and more. 3oz is a LOT, but it’s unfortunately very easy to get up there. Erica, I’m about to quit due to being laid off and not being able to afford it. Any tips you might have? Are there any supplements that helped you get through it? I’m honestly dreading the hell out of it.
Oh wow 3 oz is a lot! Did you take powder ? 🤮 I’m getting nauseous just thinking about it, I hate the taste usually take capsules but ran out of capsules and had some powder, took some today actually a little nauseous right now
@@scottyp6880 so my main advice is make a game plan to keep yourself busy. This is 90%mental. So whatever u personally do to stay grounded but takes little.physical ...do it. Prepare. Get coloring books, models, whatever u need to keep busy. Try to sleep AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. Like I said day 3 was first day in yrs I woke up NOT covered in sweat and I was beyond excited. As far as supplements i took clonapin first 2 days ( i never take benzos) no more than 2 days of that. I didnt eat much, chugggged fluids and made myself sweat as much as possible. The thing is here..u can do this the long drawn out hard way or a fast hard way. I decided i didnt want to lay in bed for a week so i legit did everhthing i could to get it out fast. Other things that can help first phase is magnesium (does wonders for legs. Can get at any store), vallarian root,melatonin,nyquil for sleep. I would take up meditation if u havent or look up grounding exercises. Bc u have to keep yourself from freakn out ya know. But u can do this. The horror stories online, ignore them. I used more than anyome i know and day 3 was different. Just push oush push fluids man and stay strong. U do got this. Here for support.
The foundation of life itself is suffering .... that's why baby's come out screaming lmao 🤣 it's what makes is strong though.. think about it.... ight I have to get back to doing push-ups while listening to the danger zone.... -day 3 withdraw guy from $300 a week kratom extract addiction (8 years)
Thanks for this, very well spoken. Day 3-4 was very similar for me, I was shocked to already be feeling better physically. I’m about to hit day 7, i’m past the physical symptoms and now deep in the mental battle. Every day I have to fight my brain trying to convince me to buy some on the way home from work. Also having trouble finding enjoyment in things I usually love doing. I know it will all pass though.
I am happy to hear you are past the physical stuff, that's a lot of the battle right there. As far as struggling with wanting to buy it..I feel your pain. I just had to accept that It's not good for me and I can't take it. Once you accept that you can't take it, it's no longer a battle. It helps if you "play the tape all the way through"..for example think about what happens after you take it? You will spend money on it, then take it, then feel good for like 2 hours, then want more, then go to bed with the feeling gone and knowing you lost all progress you made. It makes it less appealing to take it if you think about the end result.
Just like he said that he accepted that he was going to be uncomfortable...try to accept that you cannot use it responsibly. If we could we would not be in this situation. I've used 30-60 days after quitting only to wake up sick the next morning. Not worth it at all. Hang in there
@@kidneybleach1299 I've got about a month behind me, and I'm happy to report that I feel 100% back to normal. I also don't really think about kratom anymore, life is moving on as it should. It took about 3 weeks for my brain to feel like it was starting to adjust and the depressed feelings to go away. I just had to focus day by day.
Kratom physical wd last for about 4 days.. by day 7 my sleep is back to normal. the only issue with kratom wd is PAWS(post acute withdrawal syndrome). This is the hardest! you gonna feel empty, depress, zero motivation to do almost anything, feels like you mind stuck inside the prison cell... and this is what you gonna feel straight for about 30days or 6 months .. if you can past through this.. that mean you are the winner
You're lucky. I went through detoxing from mixing oxy and booze in the hospital years ago. This makes that look like a cake walk. I can't just give up responsibility and go to the hospital nobody will take this as an excuse and it's emotionally hell on top of the stomach pain and physical pain
I cold turkey off a 16mg per day Suboxone habit last Thanksgiving weekend (NOV 2018) those withdrawals kicked my ass Hard....About a week or 2 later I started taking Kraton and man you cannot be more precise on how it made you feel. I'm ready to quit Now...I'm basically out and was worried about the moodlift and motivation Kratom gave me but aam just not enjoying it any longer, It was good for the brutal subox withdrawals but i should have quit awhile back but my addicted behavior kept wanting more...Aprox 30 grams per day and to be honest I almost welcome the withdrawals because they will NOT be anything like subs WD's. I'm sure I will feel moody for a few days but I look forward to being 100% Me. Good Video post man...Good Luck
liltrollbox thanks buddy I’m 41 days clean and feel great , never touching kratom again that shit had a serious hold on me , respect to anyone who can use it sparingly .
I have been taking Kratom for a year and a half....And like you I take about 40 grams a day....I got on it to get off suboxone.....Which it did work great....But I had no idea you go through withdraws with kratom😡 Someone recommended agmatine to get off kratom....I took my first dose today...And what I did notice....I was able to stretch my doses out longer. Praise God! Hopefully the withdrawal won’t be too bad....I will keep you posted....Thanks for video....It gives me hope!☺️
That's great that you at least got off suboxone and moved to something that the earth produces...huge plus. Yeah the withdrawals are real severe for some people and for others it's not so bad. In my opinion, it's not as bad as when I would come off of oxy but it still sucks physically for about 3 to 4 days. You might consider cutting that 40 grams down to 20 for a couple days if you can...I don't have the self control to taper but some folks out there can. Good luck with everything and just remember that the worst of it will pass in a few days. I watched a lot of Netflix and that helped me get through a little easier.
This is very uplifting. I just watched a video where someone said it’s a real bad months long process where the dude on suboxone and all kinds of shit.
I highly recommend taking 5htp and L Theanine for getting off Kratom. I’m on day 2 and I’m feeling better already. Mild withdrawals yesterday and none really today. Normally, without those 2 products, I would have intense cravings for it and have bad anxiety and depression. The first 3 days are the worst but after that just maintain a healthy diet and sleep and you should be back to normal again
I am at roughly 28-30 gpd and 1 extract shot per day. Been using for 3-4 years. I am worried about the WD but I don't think I have the discipline to taper either. Just tired of having morning WD and feeling trapped in this shit.
I've been taking kratom everyday for years. When I first started I was taking it for a year then quit 6 months. But now I've been on it for 4+ years. Last time I tried to quit I couldn't sleep for 4 days and gave up n went back on it.
bad time charlie I feel you brother! I was so afraid to quit! I was such a better human on kratom! A better father, a better husband... I miss it dearly everyday now... but it’s over for me, being a slave to substances! Prepare yourself, take a week off work, brace yourself for the pain and quit cold turkey... You can do this! Focus on the freedom you lost because of it... aren’t you tired of the mood swings when you need to take a hit?? That’s my motivation to persist and to live free of kratom Much love and luck to all of the warriors battling this poison! Got bless us all! Peace!
bad time charlie I was 50 grams a day night and morning I would get fkd up on it cook for hours and would barely sleep because I kept using and couldn’t get shit done outside of work but spend money and time doing useless activities
I've come off of opiates (sucks balls) and suboxone (sucks balls but not as bad as opiate withdrawal). Kratom is a walk in the park to come off of comparatively speaking. You don't feel good but you can at least function and do things if you need to. We spend years as prisoners of addiction trying to avoid 3 days worth of bad. Suck it up guys and break the chains.
I'm on my day three too, drank last night to relieve some symptoms but I feel like it might've made it worse today. Been smoking lots of weed which seems to help for a bit.
You're almost on the down slope. By day four I felt significantly better. I'm on day 17 now and the only thing I notice is I am still adjusting to not taking kratom to give me that boost throughout the day. Every day that passes makes it easier. Hang in there.
Thanks for telling the Truth. Its nothing like prescription opiate withdrawal. I mean, your driving and making videos during kratom withdrawal. Gabapentin takes away all withdrawal symptoms btw
I've been researching this not knowing who or what to believe. Some say it's a drug others say it's a supplement. This video made up my mind. You don't go through withdrawal when you quit Supplements! Good luck to you, buddy. You got this👍
I've been taking 500 grams every 2 weeks for about 2 years now. It's really helped me with work since I'm pushing 2 jobs at about 16hrs a day... one of the major problem with taking kratom is that it's not addictive if you take it once a week but if you take it every day then your gonna start to become addicted. It's the same species of plants as coffee. I have noticed a loss of memory and motivation, this what drive me to quit. I'm on day 2 and the withdraws are uncomfortability, back pain and temperamental. I have nothing against this tea but if your going start taking it make sure you give yourself time to recuperate before taking more.
Hey guys, I was told that a big factor in the severity of your withdraw is the strain you were using. He claimed he experienced almost no withdraw, just a litte tired for a couple days. He said everybody that had bad withdraw used the Maeng Da strain. He said he used Bali the most and Borneo and Indo strains. I am at about 4 to 6 grams of Super Green Maeng Da every 6hrs. I just got a kilo each of the red & green bali and gona give it a try, makes sence Maeng Da is the strongest and most popular strain.
I would recommend anyone that is going through withdrawals on Kratom to try Loperamide hydrochloride (Imodium) it's an OTC. It helps with the sweating and stomach-issues that you may experience and takes the edge of the restless legs etc. (You might have to take more than recommended dosage tho, so counter that with some Metamucil).
MARTIN KARLSSON Thank you sir! I will try Imodium today... I’m on day 9 off kratom and sweating at night like I never did in my life! I have to change clothes 3x per night and towel my whole body completely while shivering like I’m about to fuckin’ die of hypothermia!!! NOT JOKING ONE BIT HERE! Withdrawals are insane for me... I abused kratom with multiple hits 4-5 per day for over a year. Thank you for your suggestion... I’m willing to try anything to help me with the sweats and the intense shivering
Benoit Legault yes my man I get the same stuff !!! So u need to always put your usage and time line .. Bc my withdrawals are insane as well ... first off I had a Pryor long history with opiates abuse .. was clean for 10 years found kratom .. used the concentrate opms gold liquid shots they are 20$ a piece and I use 4-5 a day for a year .. someone told me one shot has like either a 7 or a 14 gram equivalent ... so 14x 5 grams that’s ALOT ! 100$ a day habit .. so of course I’m going to get sick .. but boy do I ever get sick .. it’s up there with heroin withdrawal. But not quite but close. .. but maybe that’s just me ..and I took that for a year .. I was sick for 36 days last time. Till totally normal. Like a week of hell. 2 weeks of just sucking I want this over and then lingering bullshit. I’m about to come off again. Bc like the addict I am. After getting hooked and coming off horribly once. I got my self back on it again and have been for again about a year .. so ANY suggestions anyone has for the withdrawal I’ll gladly try .. I use Imodium in my withdrawal but that’s just to stop the shits. It never seemed to stop the massive sweats I get or anything else. But I guess I can raise the dose ..
Matt Bauby Man, that sucks! I hope you are doing it correctly and will be in recovery soon... Myself, I relapsed... took one dose of kratom as a preworkout supplement for a few days and I was back at dosing myself 3-4 even 5 hits a day... i ordered a new bag (1kg) that will last me about a month... I swear that I will use this bag to taper myself down as much as possible before quitting... again... and this time, it will surely be for good!! The problem is that, Kratom, for me, is everything I want to be!! I’m a better husband, a better father, a better humain being totally... It’s hard to let it go... but I have to... if I truly want to be free of everything controlling me one day We are all in this together... Stay strong!
Benoit Legault clonadine stopped my sweats and yawns amd runny nose dead .. Clonidine it’s a blood pressure medication it’s been around forever. No doctor will have any problem writing it for you as it’s not controlled substance. Clonidine should get rid of your sweats completely 100%
Not that bad? When I first quit after 5 years of daily use it was completely hell for me. No sleep for a week. Maybe 1 or 2 hours a day. Restless legs and pins and needles and hot and cold at the same time. No energy at all. What you are experiencing isn't what everyone does. I'm sure there are some who even have it worst then me. Tapering off is the absolute best way to quit IMO. Especially if you get withdrawals as bad as some do.
Paul Espinoza I’m assuming my quit will be similar to yours. I’ve taken high doses for about 5 years. I managed to quit for about 2-3 months twice, but the paws were rough and I convinced myself to relapse. Best of luck to you
Yes! Hot and cold and the shakes. I need a game plan here! I tried quiting and that's when the fun began uggh. I went and got more and I'm trying to taper down
The Christopher Ryan Show For whatever it’s worth, there’s thousands of ppl in the Wuitting Kratom subreddit that are always very helpful and supportive
I always was pro kratom before, because I got off opioids with it. Been using it around 6 or 7 years almost daily. Im addicted to the new extract. I didnt realize that I would have withdrawals like this. Still better than opioid withdrawal though. I just wish I hadnt started extract
I'm glad I looked this up. I used it to get off opiates and I'm on a pretty low dose (2-3g per day) I've only taken it for about a week. I'm going to stop and just deal with the pain for a few days. Fuck that restless leg stuff in my joints. Best way to get off any opiate is to try and sleep as much as possible. Take sleeping pills w/e works. Immodium (loperamide) will help relieve withdrawals but you have to take at least 20 at a time. They do last at least 12 hours though before the pain will come back. BE WARNED though, you absolutely can become addicted to immodium and trust me that is not any more fun than any other addiction.
I was taking kratom everyday for a year. 15 to 20 grams a day. The last 6 weeks I've lowering my my intake. I'm at 3 grams a day now. I actually feel much better taking 3 grams a day than 20
This is what pisses me off I quit opioids but I needed something for my pain so I started Kratom it saved my life but now I can’t stop so easily or if I ever will smh
Im kinda in the same boat , I take Kratom for MS , I still work 10 to 12 hours a day , plus a bar bouncing job on Friday and Saturday night , it's better than taking prescription drugs but I'm stuck too , I would love to not have to take anything !
I’m on day four. I took small doses, only 2-3 grams, 4 times a day, 2 days off every week. I used it for about 11 months this way and the 2 days off every week became unbearable! I quit 4 days ago and for me, it has been hell, constant wriggling about until the cramps became real bad pain (ibuprofen muscle gel really helped last night, plus I managed to get some gallium last night and got a kind of sleep but I’m a bit more relaxed today, only problem is when I took kratom it made me feel like a human being, now I realize it was masking emotional trauma I’ve been suppressing since childhood, and it’s hard, I don’t want to think about it. Can’t believe the doses some of you are on and say it’s not that hard.
Yeah I'm dieing right now don't worry you're not the only one. And yeah was just holding back all the messed up emotions. Felt okay everyday taking kratom and then I stop and start crying. Realizing all the emotional pain I've been holding back as it all comes flooding in at once. You feel better after though, I realize I can't keep ignoring all my problems. Gotta feel the pain and let it go and heal.
@@Kylemathews1 thank you sir! the some thing has happerned to me. i took it most fdays and that amazing plant made me feel like a human for the first time in my life, but tobecome a slave to it. no thanbk you1 i am no ones slave! i would rtather spend the rest ofg my life despersate for relief than becomer a slaver to a drug!
There is 0 medical evidence that any opiates cause any long term medical affects. You might be right, just saying there is medical literature that says otherwise.
I been takin kratom for 8 months now and it's turned into an addiction. I am a junky towards it everyday i wake up and want my kratom with coffee. I mix the kraton in coffee and feel great. But lately i notice minor withdrawals before i have my coffee kratom. I am concerned about it. I know i am addicted and possibly psychical dependent on it in fact im on it rn! Lol i just wish i could feel like this without it. Its not good to rely on any substance no matter how good it is. Kratom is deffinatly the lesser evil of all drugs. I used it to quit alcohol. But now i have to quit kratom cause who knows what the long term effects of. I am a little concerned for my health if i keep takin it. So i hope i can stop takin it soon and this video gave me some encouragement so thank you
I just finished suboxone withdrawal and used kratom. 3 yrs, 16mg per day. I had no withdrawals symptoms but I’d stop after 1 month. After that your just becoming addicted to something else
night one, this is horrible. Gonna make it though, didn't really used to get withdrawals until I ended up taking more and more, now it's a bit hard to get off. I know exactly what you mean you can't get comfortable and can barely sleep. I should've tapered but I lack the self control so just going cold turkey rightnnow sucks.
This past Monday I had a seizure for the first time in my life and I'm convinced kratom caused it. I only take 3.5 grams in the morning and 4.5 in the evening every day for about 7 months. I kicked my norco habit and felt great. Everything was going good untill I was sitting in my car at IN-N-OUT and all of a sudden I got reall light headed and dizzy like I was gonna faint. Then my hands and feet started tingling and going numb. I called my mom who's a nurse and lives down the street and told her what was happening and she came to pick me up. By the time she got there my arms and legs were fully numb like I was injected with lidocaine and ice cold. I thought I was going to die and was praying to God to save me. My heart was beating through the roof and I could barely walk out of my car into my moms. She rushed me to the emergence room but by the time I got their the symptoms went away. I didnt go in because I dont have insurance so I just quit cold Turkey. I'm on day 4 and feel ok but last night I had a similar episode but much more mild than the first one. Has anyone had this happen to them? Please share if you have experienced something like this.
If you are honest about the amount you are taking,less than 10 g a day then no it wasn't Kratom. I'm a daily user and sometimes take double that a day. I did in the past have a seizure on tramadol,full blown Gran Mal. When mine happened I didn't remember any signs it was going to happen. It was just like someone turned off a switch. It would take an enormous amount of Kratom,or mixing it with something to seiz. I've heard taking a high amount and even smoking weed can do it to. Keep in mind everyone is different and it is possible you are allergic maybe. Withdrawals are real with Kratom but it's maybe 1/20th as bad as opiates. So I doubt a withdrawal would do it either..best of luck
That really isn't a huge amount of Kratom to be taking but it really depends on the person I guess. Whats a lot to you may not be a lot to me. It may have caused that and I am glad you have chosen to give it up. Are you still hanging in there?
T Bruce yea I think I just might be really sensitive to Kratom which is weird because I can drink like a fish, pop norcos like candy, and snort blow like its 1979. I’m doing fine, the withdrawals are nothing compared to norcos and alcohol, I’m just bummed out that I can’t take kratom anymore because I really like it. I already quit blow and opiates so now I just drink beer and smoke weed. Hopefully one day I can go full sober but I’ve been escaping reality since I was 12 years old. I’m 33 now and I’ve drastically cut back on everything but it’s still there like a monkey on my back. It’s in my nature to get high on something, I started way too young.
@@thesaint9276 sounds like you may have had other stuff in your system as well as Kratom lol..but if Kratom did do it..then any painkiller would probably set it off as well. I still highly doubt that's what it was. Try CBD with it,not weed just CBD. THC isn't the best for seizures but CBD prevents the shit out of them. I'm not trying to tell you what to do but if I were you I'd quit all that other shit and keep Kratom around. Including alcohol
@@jvnbrk hadn't drank a beer in a few days, no blow in over 2 years, and no norcos in 7 months. All I had was 3.5 g of kratom, cup of coffee, oatmeal, and a pile of egg whites.
I don't see a problem when taking 6 grams 2 or 3 x a day. But if I start taking it in high doses I get headaches and morning hangovers. At large doses kratom drives up my blood pressure and gives me trembling hands. Once addicted it's hard to get off of because it works the same way as opiates do.
I started taking Kratom a year ago and im at a pretty large dose. I have pretty bad depression and it helped me feel motivated and happy again and also helped me sleep better. But I’m tired of having to buy it all the time. this is day 1 and I feel like absolute hell. I can’t sleep at all, I have restless legs and electricity in my arms I already have bad insomnia so I’ve been losing my mind trying to figure out other things that would help me sleep. I’ve tried to get off of it many times but my withdrawal symptoms are almost unbearable.
I know it feels like you are trapped in a nightmare....but do it. I am currently almost 24 hours into my cold turkey withdrawl. It is unpleasant, but easier when you are able to prepare for it. When you tell yourself, "This is going to suck." Guess what? Acknowledging it is HUGE. It's big and scary, but you must do it to feel better. Kratom covers up your depression temporarily, and then the depression worsens. Kratom is a bandaid, an illusion, It is a LIAR. Get mad at it....that's where I'm at. I believed the almost cult like love for Kratom, but it has only brought me to the lowest point in my life. We are made for far more than this fake sense of wellness. I hope you will get yourself off...you can do this.
I'm going through kratom withdrawal right now day 1 just woke up. I woke up with an upset stomach, and I'm a little shaky. Its not as bad as I thought it would be. The shirty thing is I still have kratom and I don't want to take it but at the same time I really do. At least withdrawals aren't extreme like heroin
I've been using kratom a couple years for severe bipolar disorder. I need to get off it. I'm spending several hundred dollars a month on it. Any tips for coming off it? Did you supplement with anything to replace it?
3:30 I have exactly this symptom and couldn't sleep for 2 nights going really frustrated, almost mad... you know when you are super tired and your head screams to get some sleep but the body is restless, shaky, sweaty and constantly wakes you up. It's the definition of discomfort. Eventually I had to drink a little kratom only to get some sleep and then continue to suffer. The sleep, when it finally comes, is of low quality. I found the whole withdrawal is no fun, especially if you are used to take larger doses (16-20 grams total daily).
@@tbruce7909 I'm using it to come off methadone. I'm only on 5mg and I didn't take it today and it took 10 grams so far too feel normal. Now im kinda worried about having to come off this too. But if i can handle coming off methadone I can handle kratom I hope..lol.
@@manicmurph I haven't had to come off of Methadone before but like I told someone else, Ive come off about 150 to 200 of oxy per day and this is much easier in my opinion. If you can, try to still with like 8 grams or even less per day. That should make it a little easier. Good luck with everything and hit me up if you need to talk or anything brother.
@@tbruce7909 That's actually about how much I take when I take my methadone. About 8 grams but today I wanted to see if I could go without it and I just needed to take a little more. I really don't care how much I have to take until this shit gets out of me, we just won the ban here in Ohio so I'm good now. Unless they pull some shady shit. I almost had to go back on suboxone cause I ain't staying on methadone for much longer. Thanks brother!
@@manicmurph Yeah man I don't blame you...I'll take Kratom any day over a pharmaceutical. I'm glad they didn't ban it😅. People in your situation with the methadone or subs really use Kratom for a legitimate reason...big pharma is hating that shit. But yeah man take your time with it. I hope you don't ever have to take methadone again.
Kratom took away my severe narcotic medication withdrawals (restless leg syndrome, depression, anxiety, despair, hot and cold flashes, sleeplessness, etc) for 2-3 hours per dose. I would take up to 15 capsules at a time during the worse times. I have never had Kratom withdrawal. I can attest that Kratom was a lifesaver for me! It has never made me high, only feeling "normal". I always used Red Vein Bali.
I've quit a few times but when i have a bad day i keep taking kratom..the withdrawls make my bones ache so bad and i can't sleep because i'm so uncombfortable ive been going through kilos..it all started from being a job helper for me i'm a nervous wreck when it comes to dealing with customers and when i take kratom all that goes away so i've been doing it heavy at work everyday..for the past year
I'm the same way man. It's so easy to just take some kratom and temporarily fix all the problems you have but every day that goes by the harder it is to stop. Maybe try a job change where you dont have as frequent of contact and pressure? If it's your career then I understand but just a job can be switched up for something else real quick. Also what I usually suggest to people is trying to taper off of Kratom before going cold turkey. It's so much easier on your body and it helps you transition into regular living without the highs and lows more slowly instead of going cold turkey and having this huge change happen all at once. After I went cold turkey I ended up taking Kratom again and then I tapered. Literally what I did was order one of those $10 ammo boxes that you can lock off of amazon and I would weigh out my doses and lock them up. Right before I would go to bed and night I would go on to the back porch and throw the keys on to the roof. Since I'm such a late sleeper and I'm always in a rush I wouldn't have the time to go get a ladder and climb up on the roof. That's just me. You have to figure out your own way to cheat yourself.
I’m on day four without I feel bad one minute better the next I’m going thru anxiety issues bc I’m scared I can’t wrk tomorrow night I took off today bc I made it thru third day at wrk but it took all I had I slept better last two nights third night hardly a wink
Hey bud, could you respond to this please. How many days in a row, or how often did you take Kratom before developing the addiction? Is there risk taking it for a week or so ? Hope to hear from you
Yeah man. If its your first time taking it you will probably notice if you go on for a week and then get off. It may be like a fatigued day or two after but that you should be fine. A week is pushing it though. Using it daily for any period of time is risky depending on your personality.
@@tbruce7909 Very cool for the response, thank you man. I've heard Heroine and painkillers can be 3 days and your body is hooked. I've done the Kratom for 3 days, 1 off. Then 3, then 1 off. I just took too large of a dose today. And it made me a but sick. Gonna give it a rest and then try my normal dose again. Thanks for the info, I don't want to push addiction
I used kratom every day for 3 months just stopped taking it one day about a month or more ago and not a single withdraw symptom.... I get withdrawal symptoms from coffee... and sugar..... but not kratom. I wonder how much of the symptoms are in your head? I do miss how makes me feel good but I like saving $$$$$
I think the longer you take it the harder it is to get off of,but I think the withdrawals aren't nearly as bad as stronger opiates. Your definitely right about saving money in a two year span I kept upping the dose and spend about $150-$200 a week on it. If it weren't for the money it cost me I probably wouldn't care but that shit adds up
It seems to give me 70% of the feeling Opiate withdrawal did. Very depressing, VERY tired, strange sensation in the middle of my face, hot flashes and sweats. THANK GAWD, I didn't get the "electricity" in my limbs like with Opiate withdrawal.
Yeah, for me it wasn't quite as bad as opiate withdrawal. The depression is probably the worst of it for most people. That's awesome that you didn't get the restless legs a.k.a. "electricity" haha. What day are you on?
@@AQWVegeto i did the same thing but if not for kratom I'd of had to come off methadone way slower or not come off at all. For me I'll just take kratom for a month out two after i hit 0mg and I'll just taper off kratom the same way using my scale.
Had all those same symptoms bro. It’s hard to describe unless you’ve been through it I know exactly what you’re talking about with the arm thing. It’s like your arm gets a mind of its own. I’m currently back on it cause I’m a bone head. But I take it 2 or three times a week as opposed to 4 times a day like I was doing.
Came across your video pretty informative. I really enjoyed taking Kratom but I like to give myself a break every couple of months. Usually take a 3-month break from it. I can't say that I've always had withdrawal symptoms but the very first time I quit it was bad. Now it seems my body's just used to it so it seems to go back to normal after a couple days. Not saying that it's easy for those couple of days usually i can't sleep and the muscle pains for me are horrible
@Marzel parcel hang in there it sucks the first couple days but believe me I'll get better. I have been clean for about 3 months but I had a horrible toothache like 2 days ago and went back on the Kratom for pain.
Thats awesome. I think it depends on the person and mindset. I would have to agree with the long distance running. That is my go to natural drug. Going to run a half soon.
@@ijustbezay No it didn't do that, but it did do some other weird shit. At one point I started to notice that some of my hair looked patchy, so I looked it up and a lot of people say it causes some hair loss with them. You might want to look on the "quitting kratom" forum on Reddit and ask that question. Then again, could it be like an allergic reaction to doing yard work or something?
Fuck dude ive been taking 25g a day for about 2.5 years and swear ive tried to quit but the legs thing is what stops me every time. This morning I woke up and idk if i slept through the legs phase or what but im good bro, ima try and stop so wish me luck. I noticed its a mind game too man, nothing like marijuana for me, that was actually really bad mentally, and opiates were much worse mentally but the leg thing feels the same. Idk how tf i dont have the leg thing rn but im almost 12 hours in so fuck it. I found if i stop moving or doing something active it gets pretty bad.
I had 0 withdrawals for the longest time untill after 2 years of everyday use. It's not terrible withdrawals. But I have restless legs and aches and pains and I just feel weak. But I know I will get through it.
Lol I've been using 2kg per month for a few years now. Just cut down to 1kg this month, now I'm cold turky day 2. I removed all my Kratom from my house and now I'm going through withdrawal. Nose is running, my eyes are tearing up. Energy in my legs and arms, I cant sleep, and I have cold flashes that run all over my body. I never felt sick from taking Kratom, so maybe that's why I was able to eat so much, I used to put heaping spoonfuls on my tongue, and wash it down with water. Lol the only thing that seems to help is to keep active, and my symptoms aren't as bad. Also for whatever reason, classical music helps, and I've never even liked it before
@@aztharz5637 This is why we cant get a good study on kratom. You guys are so wreckless with it that it blows my mind. I took 2gpd for months and enjoyed it fully...no withdrawals upon quitting. In fact it eliminated the anxiety I use to have even AFTER quitting kratom I felt great. The downside was cystic acne and my facial hair stopped growing. But you know dopeheads throw temper tantrums when people bring up the negative side of kratom. Dry eyes, blurry vision, eye pain, weird headaches, cold forehead, stomach pain, severe constipation, impaired and delayed decision making, ect ect...even at low dose. But dopehead crybabies dont wanna admit the weird negative side effects. A lot of us were using our painkillers as a cognitive enhancer to help us work then you dopeheads ruined it because all you wanna do is get high. Then kratom comes along and all you wanna do is get high on that too eating 50gpd like idiots.
@@Unmaleable Addiction is no rational thing. Many people try to bury their childhood Trauma, their shitty jobs or emotional pain in substances. And Kratom is good at that...until it isn't. In every drug addiction there is much buried, much you tried to compensate with it. These withdrawals are horrible and if you didn't experience them yourselves, how can you laugh at the people in pain and condemn them, without knowing one of them.
I actually think kratom is harder. With kratom you have insomnia RLS depression anxiety stomach issues blurry eyes foggy mind, watery eyes and nose, etc.... (all these side effects depend on the amount you’re taking and the individual) with smoking I just get moody (others may have more symptoms) So it really just varies but I think smoking is easier.
The third day of kratom withdraw is fucking awful lol. I had diarrhea half the day! No more cold Turkey for me. I rather taper off and take a long break from kratom. I love kratom because it makes my job easier and helps with my anxiety. But cold turkey can fuck you up. I still wanna use it but I wanna use it responsibly and never get these withdrawal again.
So I’m confused. It was suggested to me to take Kratom as a natural herbal supplement for chronic pain..... now I’m seeing all these withdrawal from kratom videos! What’s the deal??! I thought it was for ppl to help get off opiates but I’m seeing here that it LIKE AN OPIATE??!? someone please help me. I don’t wanna get hooked on anything. I thought this was safe??
Everyone's body reacts differently but I would say that a majority will have some kind of withdrawal effects from coming off of kratom. Some people say that they don't though so maybe you are in that class..or you could have mild withdrawal effects. Kratom acts on the opiate receptors which is why people who are coming off of prescription painkillers or heroin will have lessened withdrawals when making the switch.
T Bruce I understand thank you so much I’m going to try it again tonight. But I feel most likely I won’t take it after this batch is done and only do it once a week till it’s gone and be done with it!! I don’t wanna risk it. Thank you so much for the speedy response! I’m so glad you are doing well and blessings to you and your family!
I been taking kratom for coming off of suboxone and it actually does help alot. I bought 57 grams and usually take a spoonful dose 2-3 a day. Whenever my withdrawals kick in really. I was wondering if i stop taking kratom after using these 57 grams will i experience any withdrawal symptoms..?
My answer is probably yes I was taking kratom for a year and took 12g a day and I got pretty bad withdrawals I’m on day 3 so I’m close to the end already.
Ashley Lopez but i have never took kratom before in my life. This is the first time i have ever tried kratom. And after these 57 grams im not looking to keep taking it. I keep getting different answers, some people say no you wont withdrawal cause i only been taking it for 5 days now. And some people say yes
It may seem impossible but I have no reason to lie. I'm having such a hard with Kratom I used it 6 years ago to come off prescription pain medication and now all these years later still using, more than 150 grams a day the withdrawals are not just mild like some people say for me they're moderate to severe I have a buddy that gets Suboxone I guess I'm going that route.
Low Ping please please please don’t use Suboxone to get off Kratom!! That would be like amputating your leg to deal with a stubbed toe. It’s a very dangerous slope
@@mcafee3604 If I'm being honest I tried one 8mg/2mg strip yesterday morning and I had to take Kratom by 1 o'clock in the afternoon it seriously barely took away any of the withdrawals. I'm not being whiney and weak I honestly don't know how to get through this. I've tried tapering and its miserable you're just right on the verge of withdrawals all the time and what ends of happening is I take less more throughout the day instead of 4 to5 times a day I take it 8 times a day. I'm thinking of taking a vacation with my girlfriend for week just to get completely away from it and stay occupied the stuff is messing with me financially I'm starting to put stuff that's really important to me behind kratom it makes me selfish.
Low Ping I got on Kratom to come off an 8 year physical dependency to Suboxone. And Suboxone withdrawal is something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. It’s a living hell. Not to down play Kratom withdrawal, but Suboxone side effects and withdrawal is indescribable. That’s why I say just be careful. Best of luck bud!
@@mcafee3604 agree....i went to kratom 3 years ago after subs for 5 years but not without a month of hell off of subs haha curled up in a ball for 3 weeks, if kratom is worse than that then ill be pissed
@@tbruce7909 I remember when I first started, 5 grams 1once a day was perfect. I wish I would have never started eating it every day. I'm a dumbass and know better
I’ve been on kratom for a little over two years. I took it to work crazy long hours. I have a new job and decided to quit taking it. At the height I was taking 2-3 ozs a day. I know, that’s a lot. The only thing keeping me on it is the rls and the feeling that my bones are gonna pop out of my skin, can’t sleep, uncomfortable, etc. does magnesium really help with the physical withdrawals? I’ve began a slow taper and always stay hydrated. I’m physically fit, eat healthy, etc. any advice would be greatly appreciated.
@@tbruce7909 Oh ok, well I go through about 10 oz. of kratom every month so I'm not sure how many grams a day that is but I literally take it (drink it) all day every day LOL I mix in half a teaspoon each of Malay and Bali in each drink. I don't have any weird side effects from it and I've been taking it for almost a year. It does put me in a much better mood but I'm starting to notice that I feel like shit some mornings before taking it and if I don't take it throughout the day then my mood gets really bitchy 😁 I don't really think I need or want to quit, I am just really aware of the fact that I have to have it to keep my mood right so I guess that may mean I am addicted to it now?
@@kristieandjeff2720 it equals out to about 10 grams per day or a little less so you really aren't taking that much at all. I have been taking it for probably about 5 years so things have progressed much further. I think if you try to take a break from it but you end up not being able to, then you may have a problem with it. If you can easily quit taking it or moderate the amount you're taking then you are most likely ok.
@@tbruce7909 I agree and will try doing that, I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I look forward to seeing more of your update videos on how you are doing as time passes now that you have quit taking Kratom. Take care and good luck!
Thanks for replying i always wondered how much people were taking to go through withdraws i take about 3 tablespoons a day for as long as a month one time and never felt anything i would classify as withdraws. Either way thanks for sharing your story.
Im on night time day 2 going on day 3 it's NOWHERE near as bad as oxy cotton or norcos that's HELL.. kratom saved me from those now im getting off kratom
Subs got me off kratom don't care if I have to take it forever. So be it. Hate to say it cause kratom saved me from opioid withdraw but Its hella addicting and fucked up my vision and made me dizzy. Subsale me feel normal for once after a long battle with pills and kratom
Any excessive fatigue or nausea? I decided to cut way down in my attempt to get off kratom. I went from 18-24 capsules a day... all the way to 2 capsules a day. The last few days I’ve felt very fatigued and foggy. Normal?
I haven't experienced the nausea but I know a lot of people do go through that. The fatigue is one of the main symptoms I experience with quitting kratom. For me, the heavy fatigue lifted on about the 4th day. I still had some fatigue after that but not nearly as extreme. By about 2 weeks I was feeling good.
@@beng5394 oh yeah I'm already on top of it. Been hitting the stairmaster for about 35 minutes...those endorphins start coming out..now that's a good feeling.
Bro I was taking 9 tablespoons in the day ..and two throughout the night to stay asleep ...when I went through it I was shitting and puking for a day and very restless for three more ....haha then I started again ...but I'm definitely done ..
@@00eaugallie I went cold turkey. Tried to taper down but I dont have the discipline. If you have someone that could hold your stash then you could probably taper
@@tbruce7909 I have to be off of kratom by Saturday because of a family trip so I'm hoping that the withdrawal symptoms will be gone I understand the mental but the physical symptoms I need gone by then, so that's why I think cold Turkey would be better ,because I can't dose on the trip
@@tbruce7909 day 2, and honestly, I dont know, but really besides feeling little ran down no energy, theres NO withdrawal of any kind! I was using 30 capsules aday for the past year , maybe little more ,1 and a half tops, and I quit cold Turkey, slept good on nite 1, went to work today, on NO Kratom, and feel real good now! Probably when I think of withdrawals, I think of me quitting a 7 pill aday Norco10 habit back in 2012! That was withdrawals! This I'm regular already!
@@SacksThriftAve thats good to hear. Yeah now that you say that..looking back on my experience coming off of opiates was definitely more intense. Some people don't seem to have withdrawal from Kratom but I know I did. You turned out to be a lucky one. Happy to hear it's going good. Let us know how things continue to improve.
@@tbruce7909 day 3 !! I'm good, smooth sailing, I really didnt know what to expect, so was very pleased , it was the easiest come down on anything I had to kick in my 52 years of life!! Cigarettes, were a really big challenge 8 years ago! Vicodin, lortab, Norcos 2012, Coke in the 80s were another big problem, not going to lie , getting off Meth was no walk in the park, and last but not least, 5/24/2000 I quit drinking alcohol, ALL these mentioned habits were a 1000 times harder to quit than Kratom! Kratom , actually didnt even in my book fall into a withdrawal situation, because really didnt feel any comedown with the exception of feeling no energy!
@@missrosee7465 the worst physical symptoms for me lasted about 3 days. By the 4th day I was feeling much better but it may take longer for your sleeping, eating, body temperature, etc get back to normal.
Day 3 for me, and you gave this random person hope.
How much did you jump off of?
@@bobbyali4496 8-10 mg./day. Not hard at all to do, just a couple of weeks of just being tired and negative. Then it all goes away. I still have some but not tempted to take it.
Wooo couple of weeks damn. I don't feel like running so imma go for a long 3mile walk at 4:30 in the morning lol see if that helps.
GOOD STUFF BUDDY!
Love seeing people get through this!
Keep it up my dude, almost a year for me now 💪😎
Thanks man I appreciate that. I loved getting through it. Congrats, that's a long ass time. Its a process, making it through all the psychological stuff especially..letting all the chemistry get back right. Sometimes it seems like it's not ever going to get better but it does..and I'm sure you see that by now.
@@tbruce7909 Dude, I still get "mini cravings" 8-9+ months clean from any opiates, but they only last about 2-5 minutes and I know how to combat them now! I just literally remind myself how far I've come, and how shitty my life was before. Almost instantly, my brain understands how stupid it would be to relapse haha.
Once you start associating opiates with bad times and bad thoughts instead of glorifying or romanticizing about using again, it's much easier to control those cravings. Dude, not sure if you do this, but wake up everyday and right down 3-5 goals you want to get done. Helps me get started on the right path each day.
Keep it up buddy, and feel free to reach out if you have any other questions about the process!! 😎🤙💪
@@knalledge2407 thank you! amazing advice! my problem is that when I'm not full of it i have demons to face, and they reflect my unguided upbringing of fucked up 1980s Glasgow when kids like myself ran riot with no one looking after us. back then paedos had their fill of young unprotected kids like myself!
I withdrew heavy for 2 days then it got better by the day. Im on day 11 now and finally feel 99% back to normal. 3yr kratom use, 3oz day at end. I pushed fluids, sweating, took cholodine and smoked hella weed. Awesome job and good luck to anyone going through this. It truly DOES get better and easier.
Yes
Unfortunately...i know..its a lot.
I’ve also been taking about 3oz a day for 3 years. When I first started it, I thought Kratom was a miracle plant, but tolerance is no joke. You start off low, but then want to continue experiencing that “fuzzy” feeling you got from the first time you took it. So you just take more and more. 3oz is a LOT, but it’s unfortunately very easy to get up there.
Erica, I’m about to quit due to being laid off and not being able to afford it. Any tips you might have? Are there any supplements that helped you get through it? I’m honestly dreading the hell out of it.
Oh wow 3 oz is a lot! Did you take powder ? 🤮 I’m getting nauseous just thinking about it, I hate the taste usually take capsules but ran out of capsules and had some powder, took some today actually a little nauseous right now
@@scottyp6880 so my main advice is make a game plan to keep yourself busy. This is 90%mental. So whatever u personally do to stay grounded but takes little.physical ...do it. Prepare. Get coloring books, models, whatever u need to keep busy. Try to sleep AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. Like I said day 3 was first day in yrs I woke up NOT covered in sweat and I was beyond excited. As far as supplements i took clonapin first 2 days ( i never take benzos) no more than 2 days of that. I didnt eat much, chugggged fluids and made myself sweat as much as possible. The thing is here..u can do this the long drawn out hard way or a fast hard way. I decided i didnt want to lay in bed for a week so i legit did everhthing i could to get it out fast. Other things that can help first phase is magnesium (does wonders for legs. Can get at any store), vallarian root,melatonin,nyquil for sleep. I would take up meditation if u havent or look up grounding exercises. Bc u have to keep yourself from freakn out ya know. But u can do this. The horror stories online, ignore them. I used more than anyome i know and day 3 was different. Just push oush push fluids man and stay strong. U do got this. Here for support.
“Life is just suffering” 😂😂😂😂😂
He ain't wrong
The foundation of life itself is suffering .... that's why baby's come out screaming lmao 🤣 it's what makes is strong though.. think about it.... ight I have to get back to doing push-ups while listening to the danger zone.... -day 3 withdraw guy from $300 a week kratom extract addiction (8 years)
Thanks for this, very well spoken. Day 3-4 was very similar for me, I was shocked to already be feeling better physically. I’m about to hit day 7, i’m past the physical symptoms and now deep in the mental battle.
Every day I have to fight my brain trying to convince me to buy some on the way home from work. Also having trouble finding enjoyment in things I usually love doing. I know it will all pass though.
I am happy to hear you are past the physical stuff, that's a lot of the battle right there. As far as struggling with wanting to buy it..I feel your pain. I just had to accept that It's not good for me and I can't take it. Once you accept that you can't take it, it's no longer a battle. It helps if you "play the tape all the way through"..for example think about what happens after you take it? You will spend money on it, then take it, then feel good for like 2 hours, then want more, then go to bed with the feeling gone and knowing you lost all progress you made. It makes it less appealing to take it if you think about the end result.
Just like he said that he accepted that he was going to be uncomfortable...try to accept that you cannot use it responsibly. If we could we would not be in this situation. I've used 30-60 days after quitting only to wake up sick the next morning. Not worth it at all. Hang in there
Please update, are you still having anxiety and depression?
@@kidneybleach1299 I've got about a month behind me, and I'm happy to report that I feel 100% back to normal. I also don't really think about kratom anymore, life is moving on as it should.
It took about 3 weeks for my brain to feel like it was starting to adjust and the depressed feelings to go away. I just had to focus day by day.
me ! Just got health insurance, going to try to get something for the anxiety then I’m quitting
Kratom physical wd last for about 4 days.. by day 7 my sleep is back to normal. the only issue with kratom wd is PAWS(post acute withdrawal syndrome). This is the hardest! you gonna feel empty, depress, zero motivation to do almost anything, feels like you mind stuck inside the prison cell... and this is what you gonna feel straight for about 30days or 6 months .. if you can past through this.. that mean you are the winner
Yeah I agree..the PAWS can be tough. I think you just have to keep in mind that your neuro chemistry will get back to normal after a certain period
Kratom withdrawal was like a minor opiate withdrawal for me
very minor.
You're lucky. I went through detoxing from mixing oxy and booze in the hospital years ago.
This makes that look like a cake walk. I can't just give up responsibility and go to the hospital nobody will take this as an excuse and it's emotionally hell on top of the stomach pain and physical pain
Bro, I commend you for making a video on day 3 🤣
Day 3 for me was a nightmare, lol. I was like a wet noodle. Couldn't do nothing but lay there.
I cold turkey off a 16mg per day Suboxone habit last Thanksgiving weekend (NOV 2018) those withdrawals kicked my ass Hard....About a week or 2 later I started taking Kraton and man you cannot be more precise on how it made you feel. I'm ready to quit Now...I'm basically out and was worried about the moodlift and motivation Kratom gave me but aam just not enjoying it any longer, It was good for the brutal subox withdrawals but i should have quit awhile back but my addicted behavior kept wanting more...Aprox 30 grams per day and to be honest I almost welcome the withdrawals because they will NOT be anything like subs WD's. I'm sure I will feel moody for a few days but I look forward to being 100% Me. Good Video post man...Good Luck
4 year kratom user , I’d take like 10-15 teaspoons a day every day. I’m 9 days off the stuff and still feel the withdrawals
Luke Barizon ugh, hang in there bro
liltrollbox thanks buddy I’m 41 days clean and feel great , never touching kratom again that shit had a serious hold on me , respect to anyone who can use it sparingly .
@@Dimebagdarrel51 day 4, buddy whens the fog clear
I have been taking Kratom for a year and a half....And like you I take about 40 grams a day....I got on it to get off suboxone.....Which it did work great....But I had no idea you go through withdraws with kratom😡 Someone recommended agmatine to get off kratom....I took my first dose today...And what I did notice....I was able to stretch my doses out longer. Praise God! Hopefully the withdrawal won’t be too bad....I will keep you posted....Thanks for video....It gives me hope!☺️
That's great that you at least got off suboxone and moved to something that the earth produces...huge plus. Yeah the withdrawals are real severe for some people and for others it's not so bad. In my opinion, it's not as bad as when I would come off of oxy but it still sucks physically for about 3 to 4 days. You might consider cutting that 40 grams down to 20 for a couple days if you can...I don't have the self control to taper but some folks out there can. Good luck with everything and just remember that the worst of it will pass in a few days. I watched a lot of Netflix and that helped me get through a little easier.
Loved From Above Did the agmatine help?
This is very uplifting. I just watched a video where someone said it’s a real bad months long process where the dude on suboxone and all kinds of shit.
You're a beginner as far as withdrawal. The symptoms go away but will return and that is the hardest part.
I highly recommend taking 5htp and L Theanine for getting off Kratom. I’m on day 2 and I’m feeling better already. Mild withdrawals yesterday and none really today. Normally, without those 2 products, I would have intense cravings for it and have bad anxiety and depression. The first 3 days are the worst but after that just maintain a healthy diet and sleep and you should be back to normal again
Thank you, 3 year "krap-om" habit..sick of it..cold turkey is the way to go imo. I've been through much worse and have hope after watching your vid🙏
You have helped me to find hope.
The only thing i found was you WANT kratom...Shit dont hold a candle to real opiate or benzo withdrawal
I'm on day 2 today feel like I'm going to throw up but I'm going to push through unisom pm and pain has definitely helped me get a good sleep
Yes keep pushing through. You can do this.
You doing alright Summer?
I am at roughly 28-30 gpd and 1 extract shot per day. Been using for 3-4 years. I am worried about the WD but I don't think I have the discipline to taper either. Just tired of having morning WD and feeling trapped in this shit.
Andriy yes powder, and OPMS extract
I've been taking kratom everyday for years. When I first started I was taking it for a year then quit 6 months. But now I've been on it for 4+ years. Last time I tried to quit I couldn't sleep for 4 days and gave up n went back on it.
bad time charlie I feel you brother! I was so afraid to quit! I was such a better human on kratom! A better father, a better husband... I miss it dearly everyday now... but it’s over for me, being a slave to substances! Prepare yourself, take a week off work, brace yourself for the pain and quit cold turkey... You can do this! Focus on the freedom you lost because of it... aren’t you tired of the mood swings when you need to take a hit?? That’s my motivation to persist and to live free of kratom
Much love and luck to all of the warriors battling this poison!
Got bless us all!
Peace!
bad time charlie I was 50 grams a day night and morning I would get fkd up on it cook for hours and would barely sleep because I kept using and couldn’t get shit done outside of work but spend money and time doing useless activities
@bad time charlie did you quit? Cold turkey will be very painful at your dose
I've come off of opiates (sucks balls) and suboxone (sucks balls but not as bad as opiate withdrawal). Kratom is a walk in the park to come off of comparatively speaking. You don't feel good but you can at least function and do things if you need to. We spend years as prisoners of addiction trying to avoid 3 days worth of bad. Suck it up guys and break the chains.
I'm on my day three too, drank last night to relieve some symptoms but I feel like it might've made it worse today. Been smoking lots of weed which seems to help for a bit.
You're almost on the down slope. By day four I felt significantly better. I'm on day 17 now and the only thing I notice is I am still adjusting to not taking kratom to give me that boost throughout the day. Every day that passes makes it easier. Hang in there.
@@tbruce7909 yeah but were you off of green kratom? White? Red? 🤔
I drank to combat opiate withdrawals... became an alcoholic
Thanks for telling the Truth. Its nothing like prescription opiate withdrawal. I mean, your driving and making videos during kratom withdrawal. Gabapentin takes away all withdrawal symptoms btw
I took gabapentin but don't notice any help. The RLS is killing me
@@debwoods5834
Interesting…I have heard gabapentin would greatly help with most wd symptoms and especially the RLS. How much gaba did you take?
I've been researching this not knowing who or what to believe. Some say it's a drug others say it's a supplement. This video made up my mind. You don't go through withdrawal when you quit Supplements! Good luck to you, buddy. You got this👍
I've been taking 500 grams every 2 weeks for about 2 years now. It's really helped me with work since I'm pushing 2 jobs at about 16hrs a day... one of the major problem with taking kratom is that it's not addictive if you take it once a week but if you take it every day then your gonna start to become addicted. It's the same species of plants as coffee. I have noticed a loss of memory and motivation, this what drive me to quit. I'm on day 2 and the withdraws are uncomfortability, back pain and temperamental. I have nothing against this tea but if your going start taking it make sure you give yourself time to recuperate before taking more.
Agreed. It can be very addictive. Best to space it out if you do use. It does help with work to a certain extent. Great plant if used in moderation.
Agreed
@@INSTlGATOR you quit?
Hey guys, I was told that a big factor in the severity of your withdraw is the strain you were using. He claimed he experienced almost no withdraw, just a litte tired for a couple days. He said everybody
that had bad withdraw used the Maeng Da strain. He said he used Bali the most and Borneo and Indo strains. I am at about 4 to 6 grams of Super Green Maeng Da every 6hrs. I just got a kilo each of the red & green bali and gona give it a try, makes sence Maeng Da is the strongest and most popular strain.
Thx for sharing bro. Hope all is still well, and you are only getting mentally stronger!
The no energy thing is worst for me... currently tapering
I would recommend anyone that is going through withdrawals on Kratom to try Loperamide hydrochloride (Imodium) it's an OTC. It helps with the sweating and stomach-issues that you may experience and takes the edge of the restless legs etc. (You might have to take more than recommended dosage tho, so counter that with some Metamucil).
MARTIN KARLSSON Thank you sir!
I will try Imodium today...
I’m on day 9 off kratom and sweating at night like I never did in my life! I have to change clothes 3x per night and towel my whole body completely while shivering like I’m about to fuckin’ die of hypothermia!!! NOT JOKING ONE BIT HERE!
Withdrawals are insane for me...
I abused kratom with multiple hits 4-5 per day for over a year.
Thank you for your suggestion... I’m willing to try anything to help me with the sweats and the intense shivering
@@benlegault1531 Best of luck to you!
Benoit Legault yes my man I get the same stuff !!! So u need to always put your usage and time line .. Bc my withdrawals are insane as well ... first off I had a Pryor long history with opiates abuse .. was clean for 10 years found kratom .. used the concentrate opms gold liquid shots they are 20$ a piece and I use 4-5 a day for a year .. someone told me one shot has like either a 7 or a 14 gram equivalent ... so 14x 5 grams that’s ALOT ! 100$ a day habit .. so of course I’m going to get sick .. but boy do I ever get sick .. it’s up there with heroin withdrawal. But not quite but close. .. but maybe that’s just me ..and I took that for a year .. I was sick for 36 days last time. Till totally normal. Like a week of hell. 2 weeks of just sucking I want this over and then lingering bullshit. I’m about to come off again. Bc like the addict I am. After getting hooked and coming off horribly once. I got my self back on it again and have been for again about a year .. so ANY suggestions anyone has for the withdrawal I’ll gladly try .. I use Imodium in my withdrawal but that’s just to stop the shits. It never seemed to stop the massive sweats I get or anything else. But I guess I can raise the dose ..
Matt Bauby Man, that sucks! I hope you are doing it correctly and will be in recovery soon...
Myself, I relapsed... took one dose of kratom as a preworkout supplement for a few days and I was back at dosing myself 3-4 even 5 hits a day...
i ordered a new bag (1kg) that will last me about a month...
I swear that I will use this bag to taper myself down as much as possible before quitting... again... and this time, it will surely be for good!!
The problem is that, Kratom, for me, is everything I want to be!! I’m a better husband, a better father, a better humain being totally...
It’s hard to let it go... but I have to... if I truly want to be free of everything controlling me one day
We are all in this together...
Stay strong!
Benoit Legault clonadine stopped my sweats and yawns amd runny nose dead .. Clonidine it’s a blood pressure medication it’s been around forever. No doctor will have any problem writing it for you as it’s not controlled substance. Clonidine should get rid of your sweats completely 100%
Thanks for the video! I'm going to quit as well.
Not that bad? When I first quit after 5 years of daily use it was completely hell for me. No sleep for a week. Maybe 1 or 2 hours a day. Restless legs and pins and needles and hot and cold at the same time. No energy at all. What you are experiencing isn't what everyone does. I'm sure there are some who even have it worst then me. Tapering off is the absolute best way to quit IMO. Especially if you get withdrawals as bad as some do.
Paul Espinoza I’m assuming my quit will be similar to yours. I’ve taken high doses for about 5 years. I managed to quit for about 2-3 months twice, but the paws were rough and I convinced myself to relapse. Best of luck to you
Yes! Hot and cold and the shakes. I need a game plan here! I tried quiting and that's when the fun began uggh. I went and got more and I'm trying to taper down
The Christopher Ryan Show For whatever it’s worth, there’s thousands of ppl in the Wuitting Kratom subreddit that are always very helpful and supportive
Currently tapering. Good for you man going cold turkey. Keep on going ;)
I always was pro kratom before, because I got off opioids with it. Been using it around 6 or 7 years almost daily. Im addicted to the new extract. I didnt realize that I would have withdrawals like this. Still better than opioid withdrawal though. I just wish I hadnt started extract
I'm glad I looked this up. I used it to get off opiates and I'm on a pretty low dose (2-3g per day) I've only taken it for about a week. I'm going to stop and just deal with the pain for a few days. Fuck that restless leg stuff in my joints. Best way to get off any opiate is to try and sleep as much as possible. Take sleeping pills w/e works. Immodium (loperamide) will help relieve withdrawals but you have to take at least 20 at a time. They do last at least 12 hours though before the pain will come back. BE WARNED though, you absolutely can become addicted to immodium and trust me that is not any more fun than any other addiction.
Very helpful words and changed my perspective a little but it's rough.
I was taking kratom everyday for a year. 15 to 20 grams a day. The last 6 weeks I've lowering my my intake. I'm at 3 grams a day now. I actually feel much better taking 3 grams a day than 20
I'm at 15-20 grams right now, did you taper it down our just lower it to 3 grams?
Bcup Stu I am 50 grams a day for months is that a bit extreme
This is what pisses me off I quit opioids but I needed something for my pain so I started Kratom it saved my life but now I can’t stop so easily or if I ever will smh
Im kinda in the same boat , I take Kratom for MS , I still work 10 to 12 hours a day , plus a bar bouncing job on Friday and Saturday night , it's better than taking prescription drugs but I'm stuck too , I would love to not have to take anything !
I’m on day four. I took small doses, only 2-3 grams, 4 times a day, 2 days off every week. I used it for about 11 months this way and the 2 days off every week became unbearable! I quit 4 days ago and for me, it has been hell, constant wriggling about until the cramps became real bad pain (ibuprofen muscle gel really helped last night, plus I managed to get some gallium last night and got a kind of sleep but I’m a bit more relaxed today, only problem is when I took kratom it made me feel like a human being, now I realize it was masking emotional trauma I’ve been suppressing since childhood, and it’s hard, I don’t want to think about it.
Can’t believe the doses some of you are on and say it’s not that hard.
Yeah I'm dieing right now don't worry you're not the only one. And yeah was just holding back all the messed up emotions. Felt okay everyday taking kratom and then I stop and start crying. Realizing all the emotional pain I've been holding back as it all comes flooding in at once. You feel better after though, I realize I can't keep ignoring all my problems. Gotta feel the pain and let it go and heal.
@@Kylemathews1 thank you sir! the some thing has happerned to me. i took it most fdays and that amazing plant made me feel like a human for the first time in my life, but tobecome a slave to it. no thanbk you1 i am no ones slave! i would rtather spend the rest ofg my life despersate for relief than becomer a slaver to a drug!
Kratom also gives me carple tunnel...any opiates do after a while ...I think it messes with my nerves somehow ...
Yeah It gives me restless leg syndrome but in my joints. It's very uncomfortable.
There is 0 medical evidence that any opiates cause any long term medical affects.
You might be right, just saying there is medical literature that says otherwise.
Thank you for that video
I been takin kratom for 8 months now and it's turned into an addiction. I am a junky towards it everyday i wake up and want my kratom with coffee. I mix the kraton in coffee and feel great. But lately i notice minor withdrawals before i have my coffee kratom. I am concerned about it. I know i am addicted and possibly psychical dependent on it in fact im on it rn! Lol i just wish i could feel like this without it. Its not good to rely on any substance no matter how good it is. Kratom is deffinatly the lesser evil of all drugs. I used it to quit alcohol. But now i have to quit kratom cause who knows what the long term effects of. I am a little concerned for my health if i keep takin it. So i hope i can stop takin it soon and this video gave me some encouragement so thank you
Kratom with coffee? That's bizzare. I always liked to do kratom on a empty stomach. It made it work better for me.
Thank u because I'm considering going on it cause am tired of suboxone and found out I'm facing a life of pain. Appreciate honesty
I just finished suboxone withdrawal and used kratom. 3 yrs, 16mg per day. I had no withdrawals symptoms but I’d stop after 1 month. After that your just becoming addicted to something else
I came off 10 years of subutex with Kratom. Awesome. Then just taper off the Kratom. No big deal
night one, this is horrible. Gonna make it though, didn't really used to get withdrawals until I ended up taking more and more, now it's a bit hard to get off. I know exactly what you mean you can't get comfortable and can barely sleep. I should've tapered but I lack the self control so just going cold turkey rightnnow sucks.
This past Monday I had a seizure for the first time in my life and I'm convinced kratom caused it. I only take 3.5 grams in the morning and 4.5 in the evening every day for about 7 months. I kicked my norco habit and felt great. Everything was going good untill I was sitting in my car at IN-N-OUT and all of a sudden I got reall light headed and dizzy like I was gonna faint. Then my hands and feet started tingling and going numb. I called my mom who's a nurse and lives down the street and told her what was happening and she came to pick me up. By the time she got there my arms and legs were fully numb like I was injected with lidocaine and ice cold. I thought I was going to die and was praying to God to save me. My heart was beating through the roof and I could barely walk out of my car into my moms. She rushed me to the emergence room but by the time I got their the symptoms went away. I didnt go in because I dont have insurance so I just quit cold Turkey. I'm on day 4 and feel ok but last night I had a similar episode but much more mild than the first one. Has anyone had this happen to them? Please share if you have experienced something like this.
If you are honest about the amount you are taking,less than 10 g a day then no it wasn't Kratom. I'm a daily user and sometimes take double that a day. I did in the past have a seizure on tramadol,full blown Gran Mal. When mine happened I didn't remember any signs it was going to happen. It was just like someone turned off a switch. It would take an enormous amount of Kratom,or mixing it with something to seiz. I've heard taking a high amount and even smoking weed can do it to. Keep in mind everyone is different and it is possible you are allergic maybe. Withdrawals are real with Kratom but it's maybe 1/20th as bad as opiates. So I doubt a withdrawal would do it either..best of luck
That really isn't a huge amount of Kratom to be taking but it really depends on the person I guess. Whats a lot to you may not be a lot to me. It may have caused that and I am glad you have chosen to give it up. Are you still hanging in there?
T Bruce yea I think I just might be really sensitive to Kratom which is weird because I can drink like a fish, pop norcos like candy, and snort blow like its 1979. I’m doing fine, the withdrawals are nothing compared to norcos and alcohol, I’m just bummed out that I can’t take kratom anymore because I really like it. I already quit blow and opiates so now I just drink beer and smoke weed. Hopefully one day I can go full sober but I’ve been escaping reality since I was 12 years old. I’m 33 now and I’ve drastically cut back on everything but it’s still there like a monkey on my back. It’s in my nature to get high on something, I started way too young.
@@thesaint9276 sounds like you may have had other stuff in your system as well as Kratom lol..but if Kratom did do it..then any painkiller would probably set it off as well. I still highly doubt that's what it was. Try CBD with it,not weed just CBD. THC isn't the best for seizures but CBD prevents the shit out of them. I'm not trying to tell you what to do but if I were you I'd quit all that other shit and keep Kratom around. Including alcohol
@@jvnbrk hadn't drank a beer in a few days, no blow in over 2 years, and no norcos in 7 months. All I had was 3.5 g of kratom, cup of coffee, oatmeal, and a pile of egg whites.
I don't see a problem when taking 6 grams 2 or 3 x a day. But if I start taking it in high doses I get headaches and morning hangovers. At large doses kratom drives up my blood pressure and gives me trembling hands. Once addicted it's hard to get off of because it works the same way as opiates do.
I started taking Kratom a year ago and im at a pretty large dose. I have pretty bad depression and it helped me feel motivated and happy again and also helped me sleep better. But I’m tired of having to buy it all the time. this is day 1 and I feel like absolute hell. I can’t sleep at all, I have restless legs and electricity in my arms I already have bad insomnia so I’ve been losing my mind trying to figure out other things that would help me sleep. I’ve tried to get off of it many times but my withdrawal symptoms are almost unbearable.
I know it feels like you are trapped in a nightmare....but do it. I am currently almost 24 hours into my cold turkey withdrawl. It is unpleasant, but easier when you are able to prepare for it. When you tell yourself, "This is going to suck." Guess what? Acknowledging it is HUGE. It's big and scary, but you must do it to feel better. Kratom covers up your depression temporarily, and then the depression worsens. Kratom is a bandaid, an illusion, It is a LIAR. Get mad at it....that's where I'm at. I believed the almost cult like love for Kratom, but it has only brought me to the lowest point in my life. We are made for far more than this fake sense of wellness. I hope you will get yourself off...you can do this.
So you can sleep by day 3. That’s not bad at all. Hope the same goes for me.
If you can sleep the night through your good man💯🌱✔️👌
I have the same symptoms, it's driving me crazy!
I'm going through kratom withdrawal right now day 1 just woke up. I woke up with an upset stomach, and I'm a little shaky. Its not as bad as I thought it would be. The shirty thing is I still have kratom and I don't want to take it but at the same time I really do. At least withdrawals aren't extreme like heroin
Brendon Venegas how was day 2 lol
@@calbonar211 fine for me the withdrawal only lasted one day
I've been using kratom a couple years for severe bipolar disorder. I need to get off it. I'm spending several hundred dollars a month on it. Any tips for coming off it? Did you supplement with anything to replace it?
I got muscle aches and restless legs after 8-9 months of everyday use. Shit sucked ngl
3:30 I have exactly this symptom and couldn't sleep for 2 nights going really frustrated, almost mad... you know when you are super tired and your head screams to get some sleep but the body is restless, shaky, sweaty and constantly wakes you up. It's the definition of discomfort. Eventually I had to drink a little kratom only to get some sleep and then continue to suffer. The sleep, when it finally comes, is of low quality.
I found the whole withdrawal is no fun, especially if you are used to take larger doses (16-20 grams total daily).
Yeah the withdrawal is no picnic by any means. What day are you on now?
@@tbruce7909 I'm using it to come off methadone. I'm only on 5mg and I didn't take it today and it took 10 grams so far too feel normal. Now im kinda worried about having to come off this too. But if i can handle coming off methadone I can handle kratom I hope..lol.
@@manicmurph I haven't had to come off of Methadone before but like I told someone else, Ive come off about 150 to 200 of oxy per day and this is much easier in my opinion. If you can, try to still with like 8 grams or even less per day. That should make it a little easier. Good luck with everything and hit me up if you need to talk or anything brother.
@@tbruce7909 That's actually about how much I take when I take my methadone. About 8 grams but today I wanted to see if I could go without it and I just needed to take a little more. I really don't care how much I have to take until this shit gets out of me, we just won the ban here in Ohio so I'm good now. Unless they pull some shady shit. I almost had to go back on suboxone cause I ain't staying on methadone for much longer. Thanks brother!
@@manicmurph Yeah man I don't blame you...I'll take Kratom any day over a pharmaceutical. I'm glad they didn't ban it😅. People in your situation with the methadone or subs really use Kratom for a legitimate reason...big pharma is hating that shit. But yeah man take your time with it. I hope you don't ever have to take methadone again.
It's great you got off kratom! Would you mind sharing how many grams/day you were taking?
I’ve come off Oxys, alcohol, cigs and many other drugs, Kratom ain’t nothing.
Kratom took away my severe narcotic medication withdrawals (restless leg syndrome, depression, anxiety, despair, hot and cold flashes, sleeplessness, etc) for 2-3 hours per dose. I would take up to 15 capsules at a time during the worse times. I have never had Kratom withdrawal. I can attest that Kratom was a lifesaver for me! It has never made me high, only feeling "normal". I always used Red Vein Bali.
Kratom withdrawal is easy compared to Fentanyl withdrawals
No shit sherlock
I've quit a few times but when i have a bad day i keep taking kratom..the withdrawls make my bones ache so bad and i can't sleep because i'm so uncombfortable ive been going through kilos..it all started from being a job helper for me i'm a nervous wreck when it comes to dealing with customers and when i take kratom all that goes away so i've been doing it heavy at work everyday..for the past year
I'm the same way man. It's so easy to just take some kratom and temporarily fix all the problems you have but every day that goes by the harder it is to stop. Maybe try a job change where you dont have as frequent of contact and pressure? If it's your career then I understand but just a job can be switched up for something else real quick. Also what I usually suggest to people is trying to taper off of Kratom before going cold turkey. It's so much easier on your body and it helps you transition into regular living without the highs and lows more slowly instead of going cold turkey and having this huge change happen all at once. After I went cold turkey I ended up taking Kratom again and then I tapered. Literally what I did was order one of those $10 ammo boxes that you can lock off of amazon and I would weigh out my doses and lock them up. Right before I would go to bed and night I would go on to the back porch and throw the keys on to the roof. Since I'm such a late sleeper and I'm always in a rush I wouldn't have the time to go get a ladder and climb up on the roof. That's just me. You have to figure out your own way to cheat yourself.
Thanks a lot bro that really helped me get a better picture
I’m on day four without I feel bad one minute better the next I’m going thru anxiety issues bc I’m scared I can’t wrk tomorrow night I took off today bc I made it thru third day at wrk but it took all I had I slept better last two nights third night hardly a wink
Your experience sounds exactly like mine. Just stick with it. By day 7 you won't be 100 but you will feel like you are somewhat back to normal
I took 40-60 gpd for 3 years.. withdrawal sucked balls...
Hey bud, could you respond to this please. How many days in a row, or how often did you take Kratom before developing the addiction? Is there risk taking it for a week or so ? Hope to hear from you
Yeah man. If its your first time taking it you will probably notice if you go on for a week and then get off. It may be like a fatigued day or two after but that you should be fine. A week is pushing it though. Using it daily for any period of time is risky depending on your personality.
@@tbruce7909 Very cool for the response, thank you man. I've heard Heroine and painkillers can be 3 days and your body is hooked. I've done the Kratom for 3 days, 1 off. Then 3, then 1 off. I just took too large of a dose today. And it made me a but sick. Gonna give it a rest and then try my normal dose again. Thanks for the info, I don't want to push addiction
I used kratom every day for 3 months just stopped taking it one day about a month or more ago and not a single withdraw symptom.... I get withdrawal symptoms from coffee... and sugar..... but not kratom. I wonder how much of the symptoms are in your head? I do miss how makes me feel good but I like saving $$$$$
I think the longer you take it the harder it is to get off of,but I think the withdrawals aren't nearly as bad as stronger opiates. Your definitely right about saving money in a two year span I kept upping the dose and spend about $150-$200 a week on it. If it weren't for the money it cost me I probably wouldn't care but that shit adds up
Going through extreme withdrawal symptoms yet still taking one tiny dose a day til I can afford more.
It seems to give me 70% of the feeling Opiate withdrawal did. Very depressing, VERY tired, strange sensation in the middle of my face, hot flashes and sweats. THANK GAWD, I didn't get the "electricity" in my limbs like with Opiate withdrawal.
Yeah, for me it wasn't quite as bad as opiate withdrawal. The depression is probably the worst of it for most people. That's awesome that you didn't get the restless legs a.k.a. "electricity" haha. What day are you on?
Anyone get super Anxiety attacks from it.. or not having enough.. idk if that just me from coming off Fetty 6 months ago or not
I been taking kratom the entire time I been clean from fet
@@Bigdigg9696 yep you just transferred it to kratom
@@AQWVegeto i did the same thing but if not for kratom I'd of had to come off methadone way slower or not come off at all. For me I'll just take kratom for a month out two after i hit 0mg and I'll just taper off kratom the same way using my scale.
Kratom withdrawal was really hard on me I did not sleep the first three nights but day 4 I knew I was out of it
Had all those same symptoms bro. It’s hard to describe unless you’ve been through it I know exactly what you’re talking about with the arm thing. It’s like your arm gets a mind of its own. I’m currently back on it cause I’m a bone head. But I take it 2 or three times a week as opposed to 4 times a day like I was doing.
Came across your video pretty informative. I really enjoyed taking Kratom but I like to give myself a break every couple of months. Usually take a 3-month break from it. I can't say that I've always had withdrawal symptoms but the very first time I quit it was bad. Now it seems my body's just used to it so it seems to go back to normal after a couple days. Not saying that it's easy for those couple of days usually i can't sleep and the muscle pains for me are horrible
Yeah same for me. Takes about three days then by the fourth day I'm good.
@Marzel parcel hang in there it sucks the first couple days but believe me I'll get better. I have been clean for about 3 months but I had a horrible toothache like 2 days ago and went back on the Kratom for pain.
How long did you use? How much?
I have been through far far worse wd, but for some reason it took me like 3 days to realize I haven’t been taking it!
Good for you. I wish I could say the same haha but it was very noticeable.
How do you sleep?
I get restless body 2...i hate it...i think kratom withdrawl is not as long as opiate withdrawl
how much were you taking daily?
How long did it last
10gpd for 6 months for me, i quit for 3 days due to late shipment, didnt feel bad at all...long distance running helped me a lot though
Thats awesome. I think it depends on the person and mindset. I would have to agree with the long distance running. That is my go to natural drug. Going to run a half soon.
@@ijustbezay No it didn't do that, but it did do some other weird shit. At one point I started to notice that some of my hair looked patchy, so I looked it up and a lot of people say it causes some hair loss with them. You might want to look on the "quitting kratom" forum on Reddit and ask that question. Then again, could it be like an allergic reaction to doing yard work or something?
Could be from the endorphins, that's your natural opioids that could have suplemented kratom :)
Fuck dude ive been taking 25g a day for about 2.5 years and swear ive tried to quit but the legs thing is what stops me every time. This morning I woke up and idk if i slept through the legs phase or what but im good bro, ima try and stop so wish me luck. I noticed its a mind game too man, nothing like marijuana for me, that was actually really bad mentally, and opiates were much worse mentally but the leg thing feels the same. Idk how tf i dont have the leg thing rn but im almost 12 hours in so fuck it.
I found if i stop moving or doing something active it gets pretty bad.
I love kratom it's great for pain and never have suffered any withdraw symptoms at all
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Once you take it everyday for 2 year and you take 24 grams a day then you will have withdrawals. Trust me.
I had 0 withdrawals for the longest time untill after 2 years of everyday use. It's not terrible withdrawals. But I have restless legs and aches and pains and I just feel weak. But I know I will get through it.
How much did you use... please lmk it’s key information that would help thank you. I was 50 grams a day btw
I was using between 30 and 40 gpd
50gs a day...omg wtf is wrong with you dude?
Lol I've been using 2kg per month for a few years now. Just cut down to 1kg this month, now I'm cold turky day 2. I removed all my Kratom from my house and now I'm going through withdrawal. Nose is running, my eyes are tearing up. Energy in my legs and arms, I cant sleep, and I have cold flashes that run all over my body. I never felt sick from taking Kratom, so maybe that's why I was able to eat so much, I used to put heaping spoonfuls on my tongue, and wash it down with water. Lol the only thing that seems to help is to keep active, and my symptoms aren't as bad. Also for whatever reason, classical music helps, and I've never even liked it before
@@aztharz5637 This is why we cant get a good study on kratom. You guys are so wreckless with it that it blows my mind. I took 2gpd for months and enjoyed it fully...no withdrawals upon quitting. In fact it eliminated the anxiety I use to have even AFTER quitting kratom I felt great. The downside was cystic acne and my facial hair stopped growing. But you know dopeheads throw temper tantrums when people bring up the negative side of kratom. Dry eyes, blurry vision, eye pain, weird headaches, cold forehead, stomach pain, severe constipation, impaired and delayed decision making, ect ect...even at low dose. But dopehead crybabies dont wanna admit the weird negative side effects. A lot of us were using our painkillers as a cognitive enhancer to help us work then you dopeheads ruined it because all you wanna do is get high. Then kratom comes along and all you wanna do is get high on that too eating 50gpd like idiots.
@@Unmaleable Addiction is no rational thing. Many people try to bury their childhood Trauma, their shitty jobs or emotional pain in substances.
And Kratom is good at that...until it isn't.
In every drug addiction there is much buried, much you tried to compensate with it.
These withdrawals are horrible and if you didn't experience them yourselves, how can you laugh at the people in pain and condemn them, without knowing one of them.
This sounds about equally as bad as quitting cigarettes? Would you agree?
I actually think kratom is harder. With kratom you have insomnia RLS depression anxiety stomach issues blurry eyes foggy mind, watery eyes and nose, etc.... (all these side effects depend on the amount you’re taking and the individual) with smoking I just get moody (others may have more symptoms)
So it really just varies but I think smoking is easier.
Tell me about today ? What was the verdict? How many days total ?
The third day of kratom withdraw is fucking awful lol. I had diarrhea half the day! No more cold Turkey for me. I rather taper off and take a long break from kratom. I love kratom because it makes my job easier and helps with my anxiety. But cold turkey can fuck you up. I still wanna use it but I wanna use it responsibly and never get these withdrawal again.
So I’m confused. It was suggested to me to take Kratom as a natural herbal supplement for chronic pain..... now I’m seeing all these withdrawal from kratom videos! What’s the deal??! I thought it was for ppl to help get off opiates but I’m seeing here that it LIKE AN OPIATE??!? someone please help me. I don’t wanna get hooked on anything. I thought this was safe??
Everyone's body reacts differently but I would say that a majority will have some kind of withdrawal effects from coming off of kratom. Some people say that they don't though so maybe you are in that class..or you could have mild withdrawal effects. Kratom acts on the opiate receptors which is why people who are coming off of prescription painkillers or heroin will have lessened withdrawals when making the switch.
T Bruce I understand thank you so much I’m going to try it again tonight. But I feel most likely I won’t take it after this batch is done and only do it once a week till it’s gone and be done with it!! I don’t wanna risk it. Thank you so much for the speedy response! I’m so glad you are doing well and blessings to you and your family!
@@Black0bsidian yeah no problem at all. Thank you for watching the video and good luck with all your endeavors😊
I been taking kratom for coming off of suboxone and it actually does help alot. I bought 57 grams and usually take a spoonful dose 2-3 a day. Whenever my withdrawals kick in really. I was wondering if i stop taking kratom after using these 57 grams will i experience any withdrawal symptoms..?
My answer is probably yes I was taking kratom for a year and took 12g a day and I got pretty bad withdrawals I’m on day 3 so I’m close to the end already.
Ashley Lopez but i have never took kratom before in my life. This is the first time i have ever tried kratom. And after these 57 grams im not looking to keep taking it. I keep getting different answers, some people say no you wont withdrawal cause i only been taking it for 5 days now. And some people say yes
Zeyad Hussein it all depends on your body I saw one person taking kratom for a week and got some withdrawals from it.
Ashley Lopez well i mean atleast it wont be anything near suboxone withdrawals. If it wasnt for the RLS withdrawals would be a fucking breeze.
It may seem impossible but I have no reason to lie. I'm having such a hard with Kratom I used it 6 years ago to come off prescription pain medication and now all these years later still using, more than 150 grams a day the withdrawals are not just mild like some people say for me they're moderate to severe I have a buddy that gets Suboxone I guess I'm going that route.
Low Ping please please please don’t use Suboxone to get off Kratom!! That would be like amputating your leg to deal with a stubbed toe. It’s a very dangerous slope
@@mcafee3604 If I'm being honest I tried one 8mg/2mg strip yesterday morning and I had to take Kratom by 1 o'clock in the afternoon it seriously barely took away any of the withdrawals. I'm not being whiney and weak I honestly don't know how to get through this. I've tried tapering and its miserable you're just right on the verge of withdrawals all the time and what ends of happening is I take less more throughout the day instead of 4 to5 times a day I take it 8 times a day. I'm thinking of taking a vacation with my girlfriend for week just to get completely away from it and stay occupied the stuff is messing with me financially I'm starting to put stuff that's really important to me behind kratom it makes me selfish.
Low Ping I got on Kratom to come off an 8 year physical dependency to Suboxone. And Suboxone withdrawal is something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. It’s a living hell. Not to down play Kratom withdrawal, but Suboxone side effects and withdrawal is indescribable. That’s why I say just be careful. Best of luck bud!
@@mcafee3604 agree....i went to kratom 3 years ago after subs for 5 years but not without a month of hell off of subs haha curled up in a ball for 3 weeks, if kratom is worse than that then ill be pissed
shane nelson yup! I stayed in the floor of my shower for 5 days without an ounce of sleep. It was hell.
How much did you take a day and for how long?
Somewhere around 35 gpd and for years..4 or 5 years
@@tbruce7909 damn, I take 100grams a day. Maybe I should try and taper off
@@chrisanderson9737 everyone is different. 35 to 40 was usual for me . Somedays im sure I took 50 but that was alot to me
@@tbruce7909 I remember when I first started, 5 grams 1once a day was perfect. I wish I would have never started eating it every day. I'm a dumbass and know better
I’ve been on kratom for a little over two years. I took it to work crazy long hours. I have a new job and decided to quit taking it. At the height I was taking 2-3 ozs a day. I know, that’s a lot. The only thing keeping me on it is the rls and the feeling that my bones are gonna pop out of my skin, can’t sleep, uncomfortable, etc. does magnesium really help with the physical withdrawals? I’ve began a slow taper and always stay hydrated. I’m physically fit, eat healthy, etc. any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Why does everyone go cold turkey with kratom?? Just taper for a couple months and it'll go easy.
Thanks for sharing, the struggle is real! How much kratom were you taking daily when you decided to quit? Good luck! 👍
I was taking probably upwards of 40 grams per day so it was not a very light dose lol. Are you going through it right now or thinking about quitting?
@@tbruce7909 Oh ok, well I go through about 10 oz. of kratom every month so I'm not sure how many grams a day that is but I literally take it (drink it) all day every day LOL I mix in half a teaspoon each of Malay and Bali in each drink. I don't have any weird side effects from it and I've been taking it for almost a year. It does put me in a much better mood but I'm starting to notice that I feel like shit some mornings before taking it and if I don't take it throughout the day then my mood gets really bitchy 😁 I don't really think I need or want to quit, I am just really aware of the fact that I have to have it to keep my mood right so I guess that may mean I am addicted to it now?
@@kristieandjeff2720 it equals out to about 10 grams per day or a little less so you really aren't taking that much at all. I have been taking it for probably about 5 years so things have progressed much further. I think if you try to take a break from it but you end up not being able to, then you may have a problem with it. If you can easily quit taking it or moderate the amount you're taking then you are most likely ok.
@@tbruce7909 I agree and will try doing that, I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I look forward to seeing more of your update videos on how you are doing as time passes now that you have quit taking Kratom. Take care and good luck!
@@kristieandjeff2720 Thank you for that. I will definitely be making more. Enjoy your day.
How much were you taking before you stoped
Everytime someone asks me that I forget exactly what I told the last person haha. I think it was around 35 to 40 gpd. It was a ton.
Thanks for replying i always wondered how much people were taking to go through withdraws i take about 3 tablespoons a day for as long as a month one time and never felt anything i would classify as withdraws. Either way thanks for sharing your story.
Im on night time day 2 going on day 3 it's NOWHERE near as bad as oxy cotton or norcos that's HELL.. kratom saved me from those now im getting off kratom
I'm curious why you would completely quit..is it because you wouldn't be able to take it just a couple times a week?
@@jameshoyt3692 nah it's 2 things... rent and non dependence on anything
Subs got me off kratom don't care if I have to take it forever. So be it. Hate to say it cause kratom saved me from opioid withdraw but Its hella addicting and fucked up my vision and made me dizzy. Subsale me feel normal for once after a long battle with pills and kratom
If you take 60 grams a day have been doing so for 5 years how bad will the withdrawals be going ct?
Brutal. I came off 45-60 and it was a hellish experience
Ur not kicking if u can sleep
A friend of mine withdraw from Clonopin.... felt like the flu for 10 days...
Yeah man I heard that xanax and benzos like that are terrible and may even be fatal in certain situations.
10 days your buddy was lucky! Some people it takes years of mental torture.
@@justingiles9992 I'm 22 months off benzos it was definitely the worst thing I've ever been through
Any excessive fatigue or nausea? I decided to cut way down in my attempt to get off kratom. I went from 18-24 capsules a day... all the way to 2 capsules a day. The last few days I’ve felt very fatigued and foggy. Normal?
I haven't experienced the nausea but I know a lot of people do go through that. The fatigue is one of the main symptoms I experience with quitting kratom. For me, the heavy fatigue lifted on about the 4th day. I still had some fatigue after that but not nearly as extreme. By about 2 weeks I was feeling good.
The fatigue is very normal, try to start exercising as soon as possible even though you won’t feel like it. That was like my no. 1 symptom
@@beng5394 oh yeah I'm already on top of it. Been hitting the stairmaster for about 35 minutes...those endorphins start coming out..now that's a good feeling.
Bro I was taking 9 tablespoons in the day ..and two throughout the night to stay asleep ...when I went through it I was shitting and puking for a day and very restless for three more ....haha then I started again ...but I'm definitely done ..
Awesome
How much were you taking before you quit, because im at a high dose
35 to 40 gpd
@@tbruce7909 did you taper down???
@@tbruce7909 or cold Turkey
@@00eaugallie I went cold turkey. Tried to taper down but I dont have the discipline. If you have someone that could hold your stash then you could probably taper
@@tbruce7909 I have to be off of kratom by Saturday because of a family trip so I'm hoping that the withdrawal symptoms will be gone I understand the mental but the physical symptoms I need gone by then, so that's why I think cold Turkey would be better ,because I can't dose on the trip
Wish me luck
Day 1
Awesome dude good luck! Keep strong man and you can do it for sure. Its all in the mind. Let me know how its going.
@@tbruce7909 sure will!
@@tbruce7909 day 2, and honestly, I dont know, but really besides feeling little ran down no energy, theres NO withdrawal of any kind!
I was using 30 capsules aday for the past year , maybe little more ,1 and a half tops, and I quit cold Turkey, slept good on nite 1, went to work today, on NO Kratom, and feel real good now! Probably when I think of withdrawals, I think of me quitting a 7 pill aday Norco10 habit back in 2012! That was withdrawals! This I'm regular already!
@@SacksThriftAve thats good to hear. Yeah now that you say that..looking back on my experience coming off of opiates was definitely more intense. Some people don't seem to have withdrawal from Kratom but I know I did. You turned out to be a lucky one. Happy to hear it's going good. Let us know how things continue to improve.
@@tbruce7909 day 3 !! I'm good, smooth sailing, I really didnt know what to expect, so was very pleased , it was the easiest come down on anything I had to kick in my 52 years of life!! Cigarettes, were a really big challenge 8 years ago! Vicodin, lortab, Norcos 2012, Coke in the 80s were another big problem, not going to lie , getting off Meth was no walk in the park, and last but not least, 5/24/2000 I quit drinking alcohol, ALL these mentioned habits were a 1000 times harder to quit than Kratom!
Kratom , actually didnt even in my book fall into a withdrawal situation, because really didnt feel any comedown with the exception of feeling no energy!
Are you still clean?
I ended up taking some about a week ago but luckily didn't keep on going. I don't feel like going through those withdrawals again man.
How long did the withdrawals last
@@missrosee7465 the worst physical symptoms for me lasted about 3 days. By the 4th day I was feeling much better but it may take longer for your sleeping, eating, body temperature, etc get back to normal.
Are you gonna explain what the withdrawals are like or what dude
Lmao I know right. Maybe you have better luck at making youtube videos.
Dudes eyes are pinned 😂
Thanks bro