@@williardbillmore5713 Bullshit talk. He was a bad songwriter not a bad musician. Jagger personally said he was one of the worst songwriters he ever saw but he was a genius multi instrumentalist.
The Yardbirds were the first Western act to use it (Heart Full of Soul, wasn’t released) The Beatles the first to use it on a recording and release it, but the Stones were the first to take it to #1 on the charts
@@user-xt8ij4wb5i George played the sitar before Brian on Norwegian Wood from Rubber Soul recorded in October 1965. Brian recorded the sitar on Paint It Biack in early 1966.
Jones had no hand in the writing of Paint it Black at all. This is strictly a Jagger Richards song and Brian simply copies Keith's simple single note guitar line on the sitar. As is usual Keith Richards as musical director arranged the song in it's entirety.
Jones was talentless hanger on. He held the Stones back from greatness for years. They had to fire him before they could realize how good the could be.
@@sylvainpaquette6485 That is history, Sylvain. The Stones grew in popularity , record sales, critical acclaim and world wide touring just after Brian Jones left the band. It is not a matter of opinion. It is a matter of fact.
@@williardbillmore5713 Brian Jones STARTED the Rolling Stones and was the band's leader until the fans decided that it should be Mick instead. They wouldn't have existed if not for him. And by the way, nobody held them back from greatness EVER! They were great from their first album on, and continued to grow greater and greater as the business of rock'n'roll expanded exponentially.
@@TenMinuteDrumSolo Keith and Mick were ALREADY together when they answered Brian's advert in a Jazz magazine for blues musicians. They were already destined for greatness as a team when they answered the ad and the band was formed. The fans didn't "decide" anything. Jones sucked at being the leader and that became quite evident early on. Jones didn't even book their first real gig at the Marque club. Keith and Mick used to jam with a regular band at the club and they were double booked so they gave the Stones their scheduled gig there... *"Brian wanted to be the leader of the band, but he just wasn't very good at it.--Charlie Watts* That is why Andrew Oldham, much younger than Jones, was able to take over as manger so easily. Because of Brian's drug convictions the group could no longer tour and Mick and Keith had to do double duty in the studio to make up for Brian's uselessness and absences. The songs were sill great but without promotional touring they were beginning to stagnate in popularity... Once Jones was gone they exploded onto the scene with unprecedented album sales and world wide touring. Brian had been most definitely holding their progress back.
Keith Richards was by far the best bass player in the Rolling Stone. Just look up the list of hit songs where Keith played the guitars as well as the Bass.
@@williardbillmore5713 That's why he sucked on bass when he played with Lennon, Clapton and Mitch Mitchell. As I stated before when I challenged you, Lennon literally had to double Keefer's bass line two octaves higher on his Casino to hold the end of the song together. Playing bass in studio has nothing to do with being a good live bass player. You "should" know that given that you say you're a bass player. If you call what Keefer did that night 'good bass playing" I really question whether you actually play bass. Rock And Roll Circus proved a number of things. 1. Yoko Ono was really that annoying. 2. Lennon was a great rhythm guitarist and singer, far better on guitar than Keefer, and far better as a singer than Mick. 3. The Who were superior to The Stones in every way. 4. Keith struggled with rhythmic precision, embarrassingly so. 5. Brian could still actually play slide guitar, drugged out or not. Why else would two publicity whores like Mick and Keefer bury that film for 30 years? It raises embarrassing questions, that's why. Now there is no question that Brian had serious drug problems and needed help. By the same token however your constant attacks upon not only Brian but Bill, and even your attempts to minimalize Mick Taylor's the Stones Mach II seems very much like over compensation for the fact that your great hero really isn't all that great. As for Brian's contributions themselves "orchestration" is also part of music. Choosing an instrument with the right color and sound is every bit as important as coming up with a riff. The fact of the matter is that Brian played sitar here, he played recorder on Ruby Tuesday, he, played marimba on Under My Thumb, he played Dulcimer on Lady Jane, and was the go to slide player on a number of their recordings. That alone makes him more than the "mere hanger on" you claim he was. On top of that however if he did indeed write some of these riffs then there was even more that Brian gave to the band. Your version of the Stones is that Mick and Keith are these two geniuses and everyone else is expendable. If that's so then why is it that they don't write hits anymore? Why is it that after Taylor was replaced by the horrible Ron Wood they became a much more inferior band? Why is it that the magical use of orchestral color that marked the early Stones recording career vanished when Brian was kicked out? These are all very important questions and I am betting that you don't have particularly good answers.
A great tune on its own but the sitar moves it to another level to where it is now a classic. The use of this instrument came out of competition with the Beatles. Can you imagine those two groups on the scene at the same time? I don't think there has been anything like it since. i remember him well and saw him in concert twice. To me he was the most intriguing of the Stones then, and the most radical. He was an amazing personality and musician in his time and continues to be so 50 years after his death. I appreciate you providing that video. Very interesting!
Jones unimaginatively played the vocal melody of the verse, in unison, note for note, on sitar just as Harrison had already done in Norwegian Wood. Both of these songs would have been hits without the sitars. It was a gimmick of the times.
Having played all of the Stones 60’s stuff, in a band, in the 60’s, Paint it Black remains my favourite Rolling Stones song. The vocals were so dark, the beat so dominating, the Guitar/Sitar parts so fulfilling, especially when the rhythm guitar goes into bolero mode towards the end. Just a magical piece of 60’s music…
@@williardbillmore5713 Sorry, but as a guitar player of some 50 plus years, I can definitely hear a guitar in that bolero rhythm. That's not to say Charlie didn't have a snare drum in there as well. He is sadly missed...
@@lesshrubb203 Charlie was a one of kind to be sure... he was like the rock of Gibraltar . I just gave a close listen to this isolated track video and you may be correct. There are a tremendous number of rhythms counter rhythms and accenting in double time and straight time going on throughout the vamp. it's so multilayered that it is a bit murky. I can't honestly say that I *can* hear specifically an acoustic guitar playing bolero accents in parts of that vamp...but on relistening I can't honestly say that I *can't* hear a guitar either. Definitely bolero snare alternating with quicktime 2/4 shuffle beats. But the guitar? I was sure before but now I'm not as positive as I was. I hear something playing bolero accents, with the snare, in places. ...could be acoustic guitar but it could be maracas too, it's just not a defined enough sound. I got my first electric guitar in 1964 and I learned to play these Stones songs as they came out. 58 years later and I'm still trying to decipher them. Go figure. Here is a link to that isolated track video; th-cam.com/video/vWXeQXptDYY/w-d-xo.html
Paint It Black is the first pop song that dared to go to that sorrowful, dark and painful place we all know when we lose someone we love to the finality that is death. In it's own stunning and emotionally moving way, it is the ultimate blues song... It's got a good beat and I can dance to it too....
"Just as charismatic as Mick and just as musically talented as Keith." Brian was the best musician, but Keef is (was?) a bigger talent. Songwriter etc.
"Wrong Folks" Just like everything in life, it's always about the 💲 If they would have (Mick+Keith) included Brian with writing credits publishing rights💲 He might still be alive❓ maybe not in the band but alive!
Keith lowered the set up action on his guitar to make that buzzing twang against the frets so it would not contrast with the sitar too harshly and would tend to compliment, blend and mimic it's sound. He still does this today as Ron Wood plays the electric sitar for this piece when they do it live. The genius you hear is Keith, not Brian. That intro that sounds almost like a sitar is all Keith, probably on a Fender six string Telecaster, with that action lowered to make it buzz.. A sitar always sounds pretty much like a sitar and all Brian did was to unimaginatively play the exact vocal melody note for note in unison with Mick's singing.
@@williardbillmore5713 lol brian composed the melody (from all accurate accounts and plays a sitar (an notoriously hard instrument to play used to Indian musical structures not western ones) but no Keith’s the genius cause he made his guitar sound like Brian, got it
@@sopwithmod2598 You "got" nothing ... Brian never wrote a single song in his entire career. He followed the completed melody that Keith wrote and Mick sang with an unimaginative note for note mirroring on the sitar. With no harmonizing or counterpoint of any kind. An obvious copy cat move to try to keep up with the Beatles success with Norwegian Wood. The sitar *is* a notoriously difficult instrument to learn to play in the traditional Indian classical music study, but is an easy instrument for a hack to pick out a simple melody on ... Keith didn't make his guitar sound like Brian...He cleverly made his guitar sound like a sitar. Keith doesn't need me to identify him as a genius. Everyone who is a true Stones fan already knows and appreciates that he is.
@@williardbillmore5713 bill wymann would disagree. he claims it should properly attributed to all the stones as it originated in a wymann-watts-jones jam, and bill states it was Brian who came up with the melody. As u said, Keith is simply mimicking Brian here, and he does a brilliant job, but he’s just playing the sitar prt on guitar. No knock on keef, he is a genius in his own right, but paint it black is brought to masterpiece levels by Jones’s psychedelic sitar melody, wymanns organ, and watt’s menacingly pounding drum bits. Also I’m not saying jones was a master sitar player as Ravi Shankar, not even George harrison came close. Brian’s talent was taking any instrument he wished and incorporating into tunes to elevate the entire song. Thus why he was a multi instrumentalist not a master of any one instrument.
@I Yam What I Yam! LOL! Funny stuff! Are you appearing at any comedy clubs in the Bronx in the next few weeks? You comedians always come up with the most idiotic ways to look at things...HAHAHAHAHA!
lm catching a lot of these sound recordings of just Brian. what a talent. l remember it. lm 17 summer of 69. a hippie house/farm house/non-denominational church. after Woodstock so we had our own free concert. everyone did their part. l was the electrician. l was smart enough knew l could overrate the fuse panel with 20s in place of 15 to cover those brief spikes when all the guitars do a chord. so during the show l had a nap. and woke up to silence. l knew what it was. a 20 had popped. l bolted to the panel replaced it and went outside to watch the evg close. summer of 69 like Brian Adams song. Brian Jones was the best guitarist alive when we had him. thank you Brian.
Hard to believe that the most skilled player of the Rolling Stones does not have his signature on the huge repertory they had when Brian was alive .... 🤔
He allways will have his signature, because he made the Stones.. Without BRIAN JONES the don't exist...Sorry my English is not so good...But I can say this...no Jones no Stones...so simple... Respect to Brian Jones!!!!👏👏❤️
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 You are so correct---Brian was more musical then Jagger or Richards and I think he probably helped them write some of the tunes but they didn't give him credit.
Brian should of got a production or writers credit.💲As with many other songs. He added counter melody's too. Example: "Under my Thumb" He made both Songs!
If Andrew Oldman's "Ego" didn't stand in the way. By anointing Mick+Keith the Lennon and McCartney of The Rolling Stones. Included Brian Jones 💲 copyrights/publishing rights? 💲 It would have turned out a whole lot different! Brian would have lived! Anita would have ended up with him! "Divorced"🤔 but with him!😅 LOL
@@playmusicnet7347 i hate her. She introduced him to hard drugs, he became a mess and a though guy because of her bad behaviour and then she abandonned him for Keith when she saw him going downhill
Jones added NOTHING to either song. I have heard them both without the Brian parts and they hold up as great songs. They would have been hits without Jones' silly add ons.
@@jsmith469 I am a lifelong musician and I call it as I hear it. Jones had no noticeable creative imagination and he played music like an automaton. There is a lot of this kind of crap going around, people are crediting Keith's playing style, abilities and substance to Brian and I am sick of hearing it. Just listen to the hit records the Stones produced post 1970 and anyone can quickly see who had the ability to switch subtly from rhythm guitar to lead guitar and back again, sometimes within one bar of music, always punctuating and supporting the lead vocal with every nuance. Brian's playing, on the other hand, was always either straight strumming of chords ( around and around, It's All Over Now, Satisfaction) or repetitive unimaginative lines played over and over without variation (The Last Time, Paint It Black, Sweet Lady Jane)...Jones simply did not have the talent or ability to switch back and forth like Keith did instinctively all the time from rhythmic figures to bluesy fills and accents. and then back to inversions of the chords played with variations and syncopations off the rhythms.
@@williardbillmore5713 So you mean to tell me after Brian died, this song sounded good being played live? That sitar MADE the overall sound of this song. And of u say it sounds just as good without Brian, not only are you smoking crack, but you're a Brian Jones hating, crackhead. Facts.
I read Willard billmore’s post and I play dulcimer as well as guitar. On this song there is a bit of overclaim. It’s likely that Keith player the cutting guitar line that underpins the mid section of the song. Brian did come up with the sitar melody line that wrote a fair chunk of the song , same as he did for Lady Jane and he should either have got a songwriters credit for a number of songs or else they should have been credited to Nanker Phelge, the group composition. Bill Wyman’s Stone Alone book makes a lot of similar points and after all, the guy was there and his book comes up with the details. Bill Wyman describes the “unholy trinity” of Oldham Jagger and Richard that carved up the power in the group.
The blend with the Firebird is really excellent, an audio feast without doubt. Brian was wired to the big juice, but he couldn't maintain, he went down. And those sitars are really hard to play along with regular western instruments, you want fun? Get one, try it yourself!!
@@kingsleyodyssey4933 So you prefer I Wanna Be Your Man with that cringey slide break to Brown Sugar, Beast Of Burden, Angie or Wild Horses? Oh c'mon man, pull the other one Ha ha ha ha Everything they did was better after they got rid of the drunk loser with the nasty attitude .
@@queseyorockandroll3344 Brian nunca fue muy bueno en nada de lo que tocaba. No importa qué instrumento fuera, apenas era lo suficientemente hábil para elegir una melodía simple. Sin creatividad, sin imaginación. Por lo general, copiaba a otros jugadores de la banda.
“That song was going nowhere,” said The Rolling Stones’ manager and producer Andrew Loog Oldham as he remembered the group toiling in the studio on the freshly written song, “Paint It Black.” “Another 10 minutes,” he’d determined, “and it’ll be time to move on.” It was the first week of March 1966, and the Stones were in a favorite American studio - RCA in Los Angeles - working with engineer Dave Hassinger to finish their next album, Aftermath. Among the songs they were preparing to record was “Paint It Black,” which had been composed by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards while the group were on tour in Australia the previous month. “I wrote the melody,” stated Keith, “he wrote the lyrics.” But in exploring the sonic possibilities of the new, minor key number, the Stones had stalled before fully unlocking its magic. Short on time, they were close to giving up on it completely. In pursuing this curious musical detour, guitarist Brian Jones was set to add extra color - but not with his usual six strings. “Brian had pretty much given up on the guitar by then,” stated Keith Richards. “If there was [another] instrument around, he had to be able to get something out of it, just because it was there.” Though he had by no means mastered the sitar, Brian had at least realized how its sound could work within the Stones’
This track shows how Brian’s sitar and Keith’s electric guitar linked together. I think Brian’s acoustic guitar was somewhere buried in the mix,. Good stomping backing also. I think Bill’s bass also comes in here
That was not an easy instrument to mike up and get a volume level to compete with the rest. Brian Jones was a very talented musician, he could get music out of so many instruments.
@@davidevans3175 Yes, but the trouble with the sitar is has a very thin tone compared to a guitar for example, and they had a heck of a time getting a good volume on it. The Yardbirds were going to use a sitar on 'Heart Full of Soul' but due to their troubles trying to get a decent volume on it - they didn't have the sensitive mikes that got improved through the years - Jeff Beck ended up doing it on his guitar. I've seen a couple articles at least on some of the challenges recording it.
@@modularmuse I'm sorry, sitar has an extremely wide range of tones, with 5 top strings, 17 sympathetic strings and 3 chikari strings. Microphones were extremely well advanced then, Neumann and Telefunken for example are of the finest microphones ever made and in use today in top studios. There was no issue recording sitar in the 1960s. Some of Ravi Shankar's best recordings are from that period. Someone who merely picks the instrument up, can't play it, and just makes sounds - ya that can be pretty thin.
@@davidevans3175 I'm aware of Ravi Shankar's work. I'm just saying due to the resonance characteristics of the sitar, it's not as simple as just putting a mic on it and setting the levels. I'm sorry but I disagree on that point. Have a nice day.
Supposedly he also plays acoustic guitar here. Mixed so low down its barely audible but his timing is perfect. I hear what might be a second electric guitar down low at times--but it's hard to tell with certainty.
It's hard to tell cuz they're all mixed together, but what we're hearing here is lead electric guitar (it starts the song, and actually sounds slightly sitar-ish. Probably played by Keith), the acoustic buried waaaay down in the mix, and the sitar in the middle volume-wise, entering after the drum count-in. Keith's electric is the loudest and busiest thing here, and is surprisingly sitar-y sounding
@@thomasjensen3214 Keef and Brian's guitar playing abilities (including slide guitar) were plenty good and more then enough to...'get the led/lead out'. 👍🙏👍🙏
You hear Brian Jones, Mick Taylor and Ron Wood and all three of those guys are brilliant. Keith Richards worked well with all of them. the 1962-1969 Stones songs were my favorites.
The wooden tone plates or bars of a marimba are laid out exactly as the black and white keys of a piano or an organ are. Supposedly Brian studied piano from his parents before he picked up a guitar or anything else. Any piano player would find themselves right at home playing a xylophone or a marimba. The keys are exactly where any piano player would expect them to be. Jones didn't just "pick up" a sitar and just start playing it. In December 1965, Brian had heard George Harrison playing the sitar on “Norwegian Wood” when The Beatles released their Rubber Soul album. A week later, during the Stones’ first sessions for Aftermath in RCA, the group’s pianist/road manager Ian Stewart procured Brian a sitar of his own. Soon, a chance meeting with a sitar virtuoso named Harihar Rao would lead to Brian studying under his tutelage. “I met him in a club in New York,” Brian said. “Hari taught me how to play [the sitar]. He studied under Ravi Shankar for 12 years, yet he still considers himself a pupil; these people dedicate their lives to the instrument.”. With that background one would expect Brian could do more than simply copy the single note guitar line from Keith's song ...But it is well documented that Brian was a lazy musician.
Richards elaborates on the birth of the song, “‘There was ‘Paint it Black’, for example, recorded in March 1966, our sixth British number one. Brian Jones, now transformed into a multi-instrumentalist, having ‘given up playing the guitar’, played sitar. *It was a different style to everything I’d done before. Maybe it was the Jew in me. It’s more to me like ‘Hava Nagila’ or some Gypsy lick. Maybe I picked it up from my grandad.* It’s definitely on a different curve to everything else. I’d moved around the world a bit. I was no longer strictly a Chicago bluesman, had to spread the wings a bit, to come up with melodies and ideas, although I can’t say that we ever played Tel Aviv or Romania.” There are five modes of Harmonic Minor, the Jewish Scale being the fifth. It is a chord and scale quality family. The Spanish, Gypsy, Phrygian Dominant, or Spanish Dominant Scale is also known as the Spanish, Gypsy, or Phrygian Dominant. The melody of Paint It Black is in Phrygian Dominant. That is what Keith is talking about in that last paragraph... Keith Richards knows a lot more about music theory than he is willing to let on in a pop magazine interview... Notwithstanding Bill Wyman's claimed ability to recollect the details of a jam he was part of for a few minutes 56 years ago and read the minds of the participants, I will stick with Keith's account of who wrote what based largely on his consistent and impressive track record of writing hit songs and his willingness to give credit when credit is due to his band-mates. If he says that he and Mick wrote the melody to Paint It Black, I see no reason to doubt what he has said about it.
The songwriting partnership of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards is one of the most successful songwriting partnerships in history which still continues today. Their musical collaboration has produced the majority of the Rolling Stones catalog and Jagger/Richards songs have been recorded by artists across all genres. “Mick and I knew by now that really our job was to write songs for the Stones. It took us eight, nine months before we came up with “The Last Time,” which is the first one that we felt we could give to the rest of the guys without being sent out of the room. If I’d gone to the Rolling Stones with “As Tears Go By,” it would have been ‘Get out and don’t come back.’ Mick and I were trying to hone it down. We kept coming up with these ballads, nothing to do with what we were doing. And then finally we came up with “The Last Time” and looked at each other and said, *let’s try this with the boys. The song has the first recognizable Stones riff or guitar figure on it* ; the chorus is from the Staple Singers’ version, “This May Be the Last Time.” We could work this hook; now we had to find the verse. It had a Stones twist to it, one that maybe couldn’t have been written earlier-a song about going on the road and dumping some chick. “You don’t try very hard to please me.” Not the usual serenade to the unattainable object of desire. That was when it really clicked, with that song, when Mick and I felt confident enough to actually lay it in front of Brian and Charlie and Ian Stewart, especially, arbiter of events. With those earlier songs, we would have been chased out the room. But that song defined us in a way, and it went to number one in the UK. - Keith Richards from his autobiography “Life” This conclusively tells us where the guitar riff Brian plays in the Last Time came from. Keith wrote it when he wrote the song, well before he even brought it to them..
My first outing to boys scout camp in 1966 was basically a bunch of 14 year-olds, abandoned by the scout masters who dumped us and went off drinking. We had not enough food and left to our own devices to sit in freezing early March mud with nothing what so ever to do except try to keep a fire going and eat up all the food basically the first day to avoid hypothermia and boredom. The one rich kid in our troop, packed off with several dozen store-bought pre-made hamburger patties, made us all out-do each other with flattery and begging to be awarded a half-cooked hunk of hamburger meat. And we did beg and flatter him (hated that bastard to this very day and was happy to piss on his grave). Imagine a bunch of poor kids camping with a 14-year old Donald Trump -- it was basically Lord of the Flies. After 4 days of this, the scout masters came back from whatever bar they had holed up in and we packed out. On the ride back to Chicago, frozen to the bone and now running a bad fever and basically hating being alive, a new song, Paint It Black, came on the AM radio. I immediately perked up. Who are these people? How is it that they completely understand exactly how my 14-year-old ass feels right at this very moment and are singing it to me on the radio in a way that I could never hope to articulate on my own? Do they have more songs? That was my intro to the Rolling Stones. It's marvelous to finally hear that slithering sitar and rhythm guitar clearly, and I can't thank you enough for this little memory trip.
Ed, thanks for sharing this incident from your teenage years and how your teenage self connected with this Stones classic under depressing circumstances 🎸 ps, I'm from Sydney, Australia and hated my time in the boy scouts also😎
@@williardbillmore5713 What?!?! This was the mid-60's. This was called "Adventure". And when we were a bit older, that's just what we wanted it -- get those old farts out of our hair for a few days so we could get into some serious fun (who's got the cigarettes and firecrackers?). Re prosecutions -- Again, this was the mid-60's. They'd have had to capture and barbeque a couple of scouts before anyone would have noticed, let alone pressed charges.
@@robmac6508 Haha! But I didn't hate the Scouts -- that trip sucked, but I loved it after I knew the game and had a few trips under my belt. A "character building" experience :-) :-) :-) Still love that I can make a good fire with wet wood and a bit of flint. Best Regards from California -- I'll still be very disappointed with myself if I don't get to Australia and the Barrier Reef before I check out.
How could the importance of Brian Jones be described? He was the Rolling Stones from their Beginning until his departure in 1969. He was the colour. When he was not there anymore the Rolling Stones turned into something else. It was definitely another Music ever since Sticky Fingers.
George Harrison played it better but Brian plays it more like a guitar, (like I probably would). I like Brian´s attempts at it better. I mean, for having so many damned strings, the Sitar can be rendered pretty boring to have to tolerate. LOL! Even a lot of what Ravi played, even though masterfully done, I found boring.
I like tinny strumming that sounds like it was played with a super thin pick. There is lot going on in this track. I remember hearing that engineers would split the bands sound in to Bass Middle and Treble tracks and use 1 spare for voice.
So glad someone did this... Once Brian died, they could never replicate the sound of this song live.. It sounds like trash without him. But its just me I guess. 🤷♂️
@@williardbillmore5713but he did it with great effect. He added color to the songs by putting the different instruments in their songs. Regardless if at times he was just imitating what someone else in the song was doing, the bottom line is no one else in the band was adding these instruments but Brian Jones.
@@robertweingartner2055 The three chords Brian slid to, were written by Keith when he wrote the song. The melody Brian picked out of those chords was written by Keith and Mick when they wrote the lyrics and melody and Brian plays in unison with Micks singing.. The dulcimer in Lady Jane merely echos the exact note for note melody that Keith wrote and Mick sings. Every line Brian plays is only played after the exact same musical phrase is sung. If you like anything Brian played in a Jagger Richards song, you are saying that you like what Jagger and Richards wrote. Brian never demonstrated an original musical idea in his entire career.
Brian Jones could play at least a dozen different instruments, Mick Taylor could only play guitar. Not sure how you would consider Taylor a more "accomplished" musician.
PIB, Best song by the best band and Brian doesn't even get a credit. So much of their 60's stuff would have gone unnoticed without their best player of all things exotica, Brian Jones.. And the real dead Jones last laugh is that that Mick and Keith get no royalties from their ABKO catalogue [62-70]. The greedy duo got F**d by then mgr. Allen Klein. As Keith said ... '' ah well, that's the price of an education''. God Bless Brian. And rest of the Stones too.
Rubber soul with Norwegian Wood on it was released on Dec 6 1965. Paint It Black was released May 7th 1966 Five months...almost to the day. Sergeant Pepper released May 26 1967...Their Satanic Majesty's Request released Dec 8 1967...about six months later There is no trouble to tell which band was trying to keep up with other.
The complexities far outweigh the scope of you and I or anyone, often times eluding any a soul immediately surrounding. ...Or, there's the possibility that both have their respective walks; of which were angelically deemed appropriate they all were. As individuals as well as these individuals respective group. The rest is up to the fodder of the people. Chatter a good bit of it. No denying the sensible folks such as yourself have a wonderful voice of their own in which I am glad that you shared here for me to read. Many blessings my good fellow
Aivan, kyllä Mikc ja Keith vaan tavallaan polkivat Briania. Kun Brian oli liian kiltti ja aatteli että toiset ovat yhtä hyväsydämisiä. Mutt vuosien kuluessa hän huomasi olevansa jo altavastaaja perustamassaan bändissä. Tavallan hän luovutti, koska huomas että kaks ahnetta jyrää..😢
People consistently over estimate Brian. He was great! He got the band together! But before you know it he faded into a guy who played a supporting role to Mick and Keith, and before long he couldn’t even do that. I think his stuff was pretty cool, though.
Jumpin' Jack Flash (back to basics) 6 month after Lady Modonna? Street Fighting Man vs Revolution... Mick and Keith peaked from late 1967. Lennon late 1964. Paul 1966.
@@FuturePast2019 the stones were still shell shocked from the Beatles sgt peppers album which just raised the bar on the creativity level standards. I’m not going to get into a tit for tat on singles released, but keep in mind both these bands started around the same time, the Beatles gave them their first hit I wanna be your man, led the way to America, which they soon followed, began pushing the envelope with psychedelic and the stones soon followed(cmon tell me the stones didn’t copy peppers with the colors and outfits)and you say Lennon and McCartney peaked in 66 and 67? They were done as a band in 69, but legally it was 1970, but they finished recording in 69, and abbey road is a musical masterpiece from start to finish. From 64 to basically 69 they put out more creative music, more memorable music, influenced more bands than the stones have in nearly 60 years!
@@stevemabus6178 " you say Lennon and McCartney peaked in 66 and 67?" No JL peak 1964-71. PM 1966-73. 24-31. What I meant was: Not easy to compare before late 1967. And the best Stones albums are from early 70's. The most streamed song from 1965 is Satisfaction (not Yesterday). 1966: Paint it Black. Never a L/M song, but 1969: Here comes the sun...
Are the vocals you hear just an artifact of how they bounced multiple tracks onto one so they could leave space for overdubs? Or was the sitar itself one of the overdubs that got its own dedicated track?
The only solution of Brian's murder is: Lewis Brian Hopkin Jones born 1942.02.28 = Otto Wilhelm Rahn which resigned from SS EXACTLY 3YEARS before: 1939.02.28 !!!
@@DizzyScribbles88 Danelectro produced the guitar. It was designed by renowned session guitarist Vincent Bell. I think the name, spelt coral is a corruption of the word choral for obvious reasons Good luck
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Brian's Sitar playing is what makes Paint it Black, one of my favourite Stones songs.
Certainly made the Stones the great band in the 60s
The Brian Jones era was the best. Guy could play anything with strings stretched over it. Amazing at such a young age.
Brian Jones the Beatle of the Rolling Stones
@@robertogonzalez4684 Bullshit.
@@robertogonzalez4684 Brian Jones had very little real musical talent.
He basically faked it for the seven years he was a Rolling Stone.
@@williardbillmore5713👹
@@williardbillmore5713 Bullshit talk. He was a bad songwriter not a bad musician. Jagger personally said he was one of the worst songwriters he ever saw but he was a genius multi instrumentalist.
The sitar makes this song so good. Always loved it.
The Yardbirds were the first Western act to use it (Heart Full of Soul, wasn’t released) The Beatles the first to use it on a recording and release it, but the Stones were the first to take it to #1 on the charts
In this case, it doesn't just make it good, it makes it what it is
well the sitar kind of IS the song.
@@Famulus9 Always loved the sitar in anything, rock especially. This song and
Can't you hear me knockin , best Damn songs by stones.
And... Charlie kicking ass on drums!
a genius destroyed by stardom and the insensitivity of his friends.
You mean???(friends)....
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 are u asking for an explanation?
@@ironcurtainsteve yes...I didn't understand what you mean, because my English isn't so good..
@@ironcurtainsteve I just translate your writing...now I understand...and I agree with you!!
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 a good history of the stones is bill wyman's book 'stone alone'.
He was the talent and charisma of the band. And the band was his. He also had the looks. May Lewis hence Brian Jones always be remembered
KEITH'S BAND
ALWAYS WAS, ALWAYS WILL BE.
The self evident genius of Brian Jones
Brian Jones had only been playing the sitar for 2 years and he wrote the most iconic sitar arrangement in Western Musical History.
True. This was a 1965 composition. George Harrison played after Brian. There always was this debate
@@user-xt8ij4wb5i George played the sitar before Brian on Norwegian Wood from Rubber Soul recorded in October 1965. Brian recorded the sitar on Paint It Biack in early 1966.
Jones had no hand in the writing of Paint it Black at all. This is strictly a Jagger Richards song and Brian simply copies Keith's simple single note guitar line on the sitar. As is usual Keith Richards as musical director arranged the song in it's entirety.
@@user-xt8ij4wb5i Nonsense. Harrisons debut of the instrument was released well before Jones got his first sitar.
More saint Jones lies.
Mick and Keith wrote Paint It Black
Brian never wrote anything in his entire career
stones songs without brian are hard to listen too, he clearly had the best ear, not surprising he was also good friends with hendrix...
He was also good friends with George Harrison. Harrison called him a'good mate'.
Love the Jones boy
@@denniskwahl and with Bob Dylan too."the ballad of a thin man"from the album Highway 61 Revisited is dedicated to Brian
Brian Jones was the spark that made them as good as if not better than the other 4 blokes.
Jones was talentless hanger on. He held the Stones back from greatness for years. They had to fire him before they could realize how good the could be.
hahaha according to you, maybe
@@sylvainpaquette6485 That is history, Sylvain. The Stones grew in popularity , record sales, critical acclaim and world wide touring just after Brian Jones left the band.
It is not a matter of opinion. It is a matter of fact.
@@williardbillmore5713 Brian Jones STARTED the Rolling Stones and was the band's leader until the fans decided that it should be Mick instead. They wouldn't have existed if not for him. And by the way, nobody held them back from greatness EVER! They were great from their first album on, and continued to grow greater and greater as the business of rock'n'roll expanded exponentially.
@@TenMinuteDrumSolo Keith and Mick were ALREADY together when they answered Brian's advert in a Jazz magazine for blues musicians. They were already destined for greatness as a team when they answered the ad and the band was formed.
The fans didn't "decide" anything.
Jones sucked at being the leader and that became quite evident early on. Jones didn't even book their first real gig at the Marque club. Keith and Mick used to jam with a regular band at the club and they were double booked so they gave the Stones their scheduled gig there...
*"Brian wanted to be the leader of the band, but he just wasn't very good at it.--Charlie Watts*
That is why Andrew Oldham, much younger than Jones, was able to take over as manger so easily.
Because of Brian's drug convictions the group could no longer tour and Mick and Keith had to do double duty in the studio to make up for Brian's uselessness and absences. The songs were sill great but without promotional touring they were beginning to stagnate in popularity...
Once Jones was gone they exploded onto the scene with unprecedented album sales and world wide touring.
Brian had been most definitely holding their progress back.
He was the best musician in The Stones.And Wyman was a very underrated bassist!
He was literally underrated
Jones was not even close to being the best musician in the Rolling Stones. I would put him in sixth or seventh place.
Keith Richards was by far the best bass player in the Rolling Stone.
Just look up the list of hit songs where Keith played the guitars as well as the Bass.
@@williardbillmore5713 That's why he sucked on bass when he played with Lennon, Clapton and Mitch Mitchell. As I stated before when I challenged you, Lennon literally had to double Keefer's bass line two octaves higher on his Casino to hold the end of the song together.
Playing bass in studio has nothing to do with being a good live bass player. You "should" know that given that you say you're a bass player. If you call what Keefer did that night 'good bass playing" I really question whether you actually play bass.
Rock And Roll Circus proved a number of things.
1. Yoko Ono was really that annoying.
2. Lennon was a great rhythm guitarist and singer, far better on guitar than Keefer, and far better as a singer than Mick.
3. The Who were superior to The Stones in every way.
4. Keith struggled with rhythmic precision, embarrassingly so.
5. Brian could still actually play slide guitar, drugged out or not.
Why else would two publicity whores like Mick and Keefer bury that film for 30 years? It raises embarrassing questions, that's why.
Now there is no question that Brian had serious drug problems and needed help.
By the same token however your constant attacks upon not only Brian but Bill, and even your attempts to minimalize Mick Taylor's the Stones Mach II seems very much like over compensation for the fact that your great hero really isn't all that great.
As for Brian's contributions themselves "orchestration" is also part of music. Choosing an instrument with the right color and sound is every bit as important as coming up with a riff.
The fact of the matter is that Brian played sitar here, he played recorder on Ruby Tuesday, he, played marimba on Under My Thumb, he played Dulcimer on Lady Jane, and was the go to slide player on a number of their recordings. That alone makes him more than the "mere hanger on" you claim he was.
On top of that however if he did indeed write some of these riffs then there was even more that Brian gave to the band.
Your version of the Stones is that Mick and Keith are these two geniuses and everyone else is expendable. If that's so then why is it that they don't write hits anymore? Why is it that after Taylor was replaced by the horrible Ron Wood they became a much more inferior band? Why is it that the magical use of orchestral color that marked the early Stones recording career vanished when Brian was kicked out?
These are all very important questions and I am betting that you don't have particularly good answers.
A great tune on its own but the sitar moves it to another level to where it is now a classic. The use of this instrument came out of competition with the Beatles. Can you imagine those two groups on the scene at the same time? I don't think there has been anything like it since.
i remember him well and saw him in concert twice. To me he was the most intriguing of the Stones then, and the most radical. He was an amazing personality and musician in his time and continues to be so 50 years after his death.
I appreciate you providing that video. Very interesting!
Harrison à good mate of Brian told hé was visited by him when he did own sitar which been used in " norvégian wood"...
Additionally, Brian used a mixolydian scale that evoked Indian music, whereas George Harrison simply used normal scale in Norwegian Wood.
It was the Byrds who introduced the Beatles to Indian music and sitar. They were listening to Ravi Shankar in the tour bus.
Jones unimaginatively played the vocal melody of the verse, in unison, note for note, on sitar just as Harrison had already done in Norwegian Wood.
Both of these songs would have been hits without the sitars. It was a gimmick of the times.
@@williardbillmore5713 Unimaginative? Gimmick? Yeah I guess Willard. Too bad you weren't there to show them how to do it right!
When Brian went so did the melodies
Having played all of the Stones 60’s stuff, in a band, in the 60’s, Paint it Black remains my favourite Rolling Stones song. The vocals were so dark, the beat so dominating, the Guitar/Sitar parts so fulfilling, especially when the rhythm guitar goes into bolero mode towards the end. Just a magical piece of 60’s music…
The bolero rhythm at the end was all Charlie's snare drum.
Listen to it again.
@@williardbillmore5713 Sorry, but as a guitar player of some 50 plus years, I can definitely hear a guitar in that bolero rhythm. That's not to say Charlie didn't have a snare drum in there as well. He is sadly missed...
@@lesshrubb203 Charlie was a one of kind to be sure... he was like the rock of Gibraltar .
I just gave a close listen to this isolated track video and you may be correct. There are a tremendous number of rhythms counter rhythms and accenting in double time and straight time going on throughout the vamp. it's so multilayered that it is a bit murky.
I can't honestly say that I *can* hear specifically an acoustic guitar playing bolero accents in parts of that vamp...but on relistening I can't honestly say that I *can't* hear a guitar either. Definitely bolero snare alternating with quicktime 2/4 shuffle beats. But the guitar? I was sure before but now I'm not as positive as I was.
I hear something playing bolero accents, with the snare, in places. ...could be acoustic guitar but it could be maracas too, it's just not a defined enough sound.
I got my first electric guitar in 1964 and I learned to play these Stones songs as they came out. 58 years later and I'm still trying to decipher them. Go figure.
Here is a link to that isolated track video;
th-cam.com/video/vWXeQXptDYY/w-d-xo.html
@@williardbillmore5713 Let's just agree, it's a bloody brilliant track!
Paint It Black is the first pop song that dared to go to that sorrowful, dark and painful place we all know when we lose someone we love to the finality that is death.
In it's own stunning and emotionally moving way, it is the ultimate blues song...
It's got a good beat and I can dance to it too....
R.I.P. Brian Jones underrated multi instrumentalist
It was thanks to Brian that this song was a hit. Period.
IMMORTAL BRIAN JONES 🙏🌟✨🌟🌟🌹
In the beginning there was Jones.. and the other Stones. Just as charismatic as Mick and just as musically talented as Keith.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
And the first to get too fucked up to play
"Just as charismatic as Mick and just as musically talented as Keith."
Brian was the best musician, but Keef is (was?) a bigger talent. Songwriter etc.
"Wrong Folks" Just like everything in life, it's always about the 💲 If they would have (Mick+Keith) included Brian with writing credits publishing rights💲 He might still be alive❓ maybe not in the band but alive!
He's also better looking
The sitar melds with the guitar almost seamlessly. Brian was so good at this. Too good, actually; it caused him to be overlooked and underrated.
these isolated videos are changing my long overlooked/underrated view of BRIAN !
Keith lowered the set up action on his guitar to make that buzzing twang against the frets so it would not contrast with the sitar too harshly and would tend to compliment, blend and mimic it's sound. He still does this today as Ron Wood plays the electric sitar for this piece when they do it live.
The genius you hear is Keith, not Brian.
That intro that sounds almost like a sitar is all Keith, probably on a Fender six string Telecaster, with that action lowered to make it buzz..
A sitar always sounds pretty much like a sitar and all Brian did was to unimaginatively play the exact vocal melody note for note in unison with Mick's singing.
@@williardbillmore5713 lol brian composed the melody (from all accurate accounts and plays a sitar (an notoriously hard instrument to play used to Indian musical structures not western ones) but no Keith’s the genius cause he made his guitar sound like Brian, got it
@@sopwithmod2598 You "got" nothing ...
Brian never wrote a single song in his entire career. He followed the completed melody that Keith wrote and Mick sang with an unimaginative note for note mirroring on the sitar. With no harmonizing or counterpoint of any kind. An obvious copy cat move to try to keep up with the Beatles success with Norwegian Wood.
The sitar *is* a notoriously difficult instrument to learn to play in the traditional Indian classical music study, but is an easy instrument for a hack to pick out a simple melody on ...
Keith didn't make his guitar sound like Brian...He cleverly made his guitar sound like a sitar.
Keith doesn't need me to identify him as a genius. Everyone who is a true Stones fan already knows and appreciates that he is.
@@williardbillmore5713 bill wymann would disagree. he claims it should properly attributed to all the stones as it originated in a wymann-watts-jones jam, and bill states it was Brian who came up with the melody. As u said, Keith is simply mimicking Brian here, and he does a brilliant job, but he’s just playing the sitar prt on guitar. No knock on keef, he is a genius in his own right, but paint it black is brought to masterpiece levels by Jones’s psychedelic sitar melody, wymanns organ, and watt’s menacingly pounding drum bits. Also I’m not saying jones was a master sitar player as Ravi Shankar, not even George harrison came close. Brian’s talent was taking any instrument he wished and incorporating into tunes to elevate the entire song. Thus why he was a multi instrumentalist not a master of any one instrument.
No Brian Jones, no Rolling Stones. Know Brian Jones, know the Rolling Stones!
Well-said.
@I Yam What I Yam! LOL! Funny stuff! Are you appearing at any comedy clubs in the Bronx in the next few weeks? You comedians always come up with the most idiotic ways to look at things...HAHAHAHAHA!
Beautifully stated......
Some truth in that statement.
It still sounds great in 2022.
It still sounds great in 2023.
@@Jerry-xj9pz Yes, well it would, now that it is 2023.
@@HektorBandimar now we need to wait until 2024
I wasn't there but the Rolling Stones always gave it their best.I respect them and I'm glad I've been listening since 1965
lm catching a lot of these sound recordings of just Brian. what a talent.
l remember it. lm 17 summer of 69. a hippie house/farm house/non-denominational church. after Woodstock so we had our own free concert. everyone did their part. l was the electrician. l was smart enough knew l could overrate the fuse panel with 20s in place of 15 to cover those brief spikes when all the guitars do a chord.
so during the show l had a nap.
and woke up to silence. l knew what it was. a 20 had popped. l bolted to the panel replaced it and went outside to watch the evg close.
summer of 69 like Brian Adams song.
Brian Jones was the best guitarist alive when we had him. thank you Brian.
So good and a perfect addition to the song. I could fall asleep to his sitar playing. 🔥
Fantastic Brian Jones 👉💯🎸💯🎸👅💯👅 super best 💞🙏💞🙏💞RIP 👉💔💔💔💔💔💔
Thank you BJ . The magic .
Brain Jones die Nr. 1 der Stones und der Schönste. Seine Begabung beeindruckend. Leider zu früh aus dem Leben gerissen worden.
You are so correct 💯💯
..ja nimen omaan, riistettiin!!!
Brian was their MVP. Too bad they (mick and Keith) didn’t realize it. And then they changed his music tenure after his death.
No Jones.......no Stones....
Hard to believe that the most skilled player of the Rolling Stones does not have his signature on the huge repertory they had when Brian was alive .... 🤔
He allways will have his signature, because he made the Stones.. Without BRIAN JONES the don't exist...Sorry my English is not so good...But I can say this...no Jones no Stones...so simple... Respect to Brian Jones!!!!👏👏❤️
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 Eleni Korkodelaki: 🤝🎸
@@patrickbuzzo1970 Thank you 🙏
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 You are so correct---Brian was more musical then Jagger or Richards and I think he probably helped them write some of the tunes but they didn't give him credit.
@@kentrichardson1957 Agree with you..But i believe Brian Jones became a Legend 💯💯....And I don't believe that for the others!!!!...
By far the most popular Stones song on Spotify.
Brian should of got a production or writers credit.💲As with many other songs. He added counter melody's too. Example: "Under my Thumb" He made both Songs!
If Andrew Oldman's "Ego" didn't stand in the way. By anointing Mick+Keith the Lennon and McCartney of The Rolling Stones. Included Brian Jones 💲 copyrights/publishing rights? 💲 It would have turned out a whole lot different! Brian would have lived! Anita would have ended up with him! "Divorced"🤔 but with him!😅 LOL
@@playmusicnet7347 i hate her. She introduced him to hard drugs, he became a mess and a though guy because of her bad behaviour and then she abandonned him for Keith when she saw him going downhill
@@playmusicnet7347 Keith admitted he wrote "Ruby Tuesday " with Brian.
Greedy wankers.
Jones added NOTHING to either song. I have heard them both without the Brian parts and they hold up as great songs. They would have been hits without Jones' silly add ons.
@@williardbillmore5713 no jones no stones
The way he switches from playing melody to rhythm and back is very subtle
You are thinking of Keith. Jones had no talent for that kind of guitar playing.
@@williardbillmore5713 ur insane
@@jsmith469 I am a lifelong musician and I call it as I hear it.
Jones had no noticeable creative imagination and he played music like an automaton. There is a lot of this kind of crap going around, people are crediting Keith's playing style, abilities and substance to Brian and I am sick of hearing it.
Just listen to the hit records the Stones produced post 1970 and anyone can quickly see who had the ability to switch subtly from rhythm guitar to lead guitar and back again, sometimes within one bar of music, always punctuating and supporting the lead vocal with every nuance.
Brian's playing, on the other hand, was always either straight strumming of chords ( around and around, It's All Over Now, Satisfaction) or repetitive unimaginative lines played over and over without variation (The Last Time, Paint It Black, Sweet Lady Jane)...Jones simply did not have the talent or ability to switch back and forth like Keith did instinctively all the time from rhythmic figures to bluesy fills and accents. and then back to inversions of the chords played with variations and syncopations off the rhythms.
@@williardbillmore5713 So you mean to tell me after Brian died, this song sounded good being played live? That sitar MADE the overall sound of this song. And of u say it sounds just as good without Brian, not only are you smoking crack, but you're a Brian Jones hating, crackhead. Facts.
I read Willard billmore’s post and I play dulcimer as well as guitar. On this song there is a bit of overclaim. It’s likely that Keith player the cutting guitar line that underpins the mid section of the song. Brian did come up with the sitar melody line that wrote a fair chunk of the song , same as he did for Lady Jane and he should either have got a songwriters credit for a number of songs or else they should have been credited to Nanker Phelge, the group composition. Bill Wyman’s Stone Alone book makes a lot of similar points and after all, the guy was there and his book comes up with the details. Bill Wyman describes the “unholy trinity” of Oldham Jagger and Richard that carved up the power in the group.
I love this, I love Brian and I love all your other isolated Brian vids.
Brian ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
The blend with the Firebird is really excellent, an audio feast without doubt. Brian was wired to the big juice, but he couldn't maintain, he went down. And those sitars are really hard to play along with regular western instruments, you want fun? Get one, try it yourself!!
I new , there was something magical , that. Since Brian, Well. Thanks
Beautiful progressive sound🥰😯
No early sixties without Brian Jones
No seventies, eighties nineties nor post pandemic without Keith Richards, the king of rhythm
Brian Jones au sitar, paintit black, merci beaucoup, pour ce bon moment en ta compagnie Brian Jones
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I know Mick Taylor and Ron Wood are great, but they were never the same without Brian, IMO.
Of course not. Without Brian they got much better.
@@williardbillmore5713 no...
@@kingsleyodyssey4933 So you prefer I Wanna Be Your Man with that cringey slide break to Brown Sugar, Beast Of Burden, Angie or Wild Horses? Oh c'mon man, pull the other one Ha ha ha ha
Everything they did was better after they got rid of the drunk loser with the nasty attitude .
@@williardbillmore5713 nunca mejoraron si no son multi instrumentista como brian Jones solo son simples guitarrista Saludos..
@@queseyorockandroll3344 Brian nunca fue muy bueno en nada de lo que tocaba. No importa qué instrumento fuera, apenas era lo suficientemente hábil para elegir una melodía simple.
Sin creatividad, sin imaginación. Por lo general, copiaba a otros jugadores de la banda.
If there wasn't Brian, there wouldn’t been the Stones
Good work fantastic thanks for input
Rip and thank you !!!
“That song was going nowhere,” said The Rolling Stones’ manager and producer Andrew Loog Oldham as he remembered the group toiling in the studio on the freshly written song, “Paint It Black.” “Another 10 minutes,” he’d determined, “and it’ll be time to move on.”
It was the first week of March 1966, and the Stones were in a favorite American studio - RCA in Los Angeles - working with engineer Dave Hassinger to finish their next album, Aftermath.
Among the songs they were preparing to record was “Paint It Black,” which had been composed by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards while the group were on tour in Australia the previous month. “I wrote the melody,” stated Keith, “he wrote the lyrics.” But in exploring the sonic possibilities of the new, minor key number, the Stones had stalled before fully unlocking its magic. Short on time, they were close to giving up on it completely.
In pursuing this curious musical detour, guitarist Brian Jones was set to add extra color - but not with his usual six strings. “Brian had pretty much given up on the guitar by then,” stated Keith Richards. “If there was [another] instrument around, he had to be able to get something out of it, just because it was there.”
Though he had by no means mastered the sitar, Brian had at least realized how its sound could work within the Stones’
This track shows how Brian’s sitar and Keith’s electric guitar linked together. I think Brian’s acoustic guitar was somewhere buried in the mix,. Good stomping backing also. I think Bill’s bass also comes in here
Brilliant choice the sitar
Sublime. Mike drop.
That was not an easy instrument to mike up and get a volume level to compete with the rest. Brian Jones was a very talented musician, he could get music out of so many instruments.
You just put a mic on it and adjust the level in the mix. Like anything else.
@@davidevans3175 Yes, but the trouble with the sitar is has a very thin tone compared to a guitar for example, and they had a heck of a time getting a good volume on it. The Yardbirds were going to use a sitar on 'Heart Full of Soul' but due to their troubles trying to get a decent volume on it - they didn't have the sensitive mikes that got improved through the years - Jeff Beck ended up doing it on his guitar. I've seen a couple articles at least on some of the challenges recording it.
@@modularmuse I'm sorry, sitar has an extremely wide range of tones, with 5 top strings, 17 sympathetic strings and 3 chikari strings. Microphones were extremely well advanced then, Neumann and Telefunken for example are of the finest microphones ever made and in use today in top studios. There was no issue recording sitar in the 1960s. Some of Ravi Shankar's best recordings are from that period. Someone who merely picks the instrument up, can't play it, and just makes sounds - ya that can be pretty thin.
@@davidevans3175 I'm aware of Ravi Shankar's work. I'm just saying due to the resonance characteristics of the sitar, it's not as simple as just putting a mic on it and setting the levels. I'm sorry but I disagree on that point. Have a nice day.
Supposedly he also plays acoustic guitar here. Mixed so low down its barely audible but his timing is perfect. I hear what might be a second electric guitar down low at times--but it's hard to tell with certainty.
While I'm not certain, I believe both Brian and Keith play an acoustic while Keith also plays an electric.
Brian had gr8 timing and perfect intonation on all his instruments
It's hard to tell cuz they're all mixed together, but what we're hearing here is lead electric guitar (it starts the song, and actually sounds slightly sitar-ish. Probably played by Keith), the acoustic buried waaaay down in the mix, and the sitar in the middle volume-wise, entering after the drum count-in. Keith's electric is the loudest and busiest thing here, and is surprisingly sitar-y sounding
Happy 82nd birthday Brian Jones🎉❤️
The best Stone.
Is there an instrument Jones couldn't play?
.....Probably not....👍🙏👍🙏👍
A proper guitar solo is what he cannot play!!
@@thomasjensen3214 Keef and Brian's guitar playing abilities (including slide guitar) were plenty good and more then enough to...'get the led/lead out'. 👍🙏👍🙏
@@thomasjensen3214
" Play With Fire"?
@@televinv8062 check out " Sittin on a Fence"
Sitar is one instrument he couldn't play.
If not for Brian there probably wouldn’t have been The Rolling Stones! Who knows what could have been?
My Best Friend born 28/02 ,Like a Brian Jones,she's love the rock witt she's life
You hear Brian Jones, Mick Taylor and Ron Wood and all three of those guys are brilliant. Keith Richards worked well with all of them. the 1962-1969 Stones songs were my favorites.
The best songs the Stones had are these whit Brian Jones
,👏👏🙏
He pulled it off, while others tried, back in the day.
Maravillosamente la interpretacion de la Sitara en esta genial canción de Sus Satánicas Majestades. Solo Brian Jones lo podía hacer.
No es de ese álbum.
The wooden tone plates or bars of a marimba are laid out exactly as the black and white keys of a piano or an organ are. Supposedly Brian studied piano from his parents before he picked up a guitar or anything else. Any piano player would find themselves right at home playing a xylophone or a marimba. The keys are exactly where any piano player would expect them to be.
Jones didn't just "pick up" a sitar and just start playing it.
In December 1965, Brian had heard George Harrison playing the sitar on “Norwegian Wood” when The Beatles released their Rubber Soul album. A week later, during the Stones’ first sessions for Aftermath in RCA, the group’s pianist/road manager Ian Stewart procured Brian a sitar of his own. Soon, a chance meeting with a sitar virtuoso named Harihar Rao would lead to Brian studying under his tutelage. “I met him in a club in New York,” Brian said. “Hari taught me how to play [the sitar]. He studied under Ravi Shankar for 12 years, yet he still considers himself a pupil; these people dedicate their lives to the instrument.”. With that background one would expect Brian could do more than simply copy the single note guitar line from Keith's song ...But it is well documented that Brian was a lazy musician.
Richards elaborates on the birth of the song, “‘There was ‘Paint it Black’, for example, recorded in March 1966, our sixth British number one. Brian Jones, now transformed into a multi-instrumentalist, having ‘given up playing the guitar’, played sitar. *It was a different style to everything I’d done before. Maybe it was the Jew in me. It’s more to me like ‘Hava Nagila’ or some Gypsy lick. Maybe I picked it up from my grandad.* It’s definitely on a different curve to everything else. I’d moved around the world a bit. I was no longer strictly a Chicago bluesman, had to spread the wings a bit, to come up with melodies and ideas, although I can’t say that we ever played Tel Aviv or Romania.”
There are five modes of Harmonic Minor, the Jewish Scale being the fifth. It is a chord and scale quality family. The Spanish, Gypsy, Phrygian Dominant, or Spanish Dominant Scale is also known as the Spanish, Gypsy, or Phrygian Dominant. The melody of Paint It Black is in Phrygian Dominant. That is what Keith is talking about in that last paragraph...
Keith Richards knows a lot more about music theory than he is willing to let on in a pop magazine interview...
Notwithstanding Bill Wyman's claimed ability to recollect the details of a jam he was part of for a few minutes 56 years ago and read the minds of the participants, I will stick with Keith's account of who wrote what based largely on his consistent and impressive track record of writing hit songs and his willingness to give credit when credit is due to his band-mates.
If he says that he and Mick wrote the melody to Paint It Black, I see no reason to doubt what he has said about it.
My favorite Stones record
The songwriting partnership of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards is one of the most successful songwriting partnerships in history which still continues today. Their musical collaboration has produced the majority of the Rolling Stones catalog and Jagger/Richards songs have been recorded by artists across all genres.
“Mick and I knew by now that really our job was to write songs for the Stones. It took us eight, nine months before we came up with “The Last Time,” which is the first one that we felt we could give to the rest of the guys without being sent out of the room. If I’d gone to the Rolling Stones with “As Tears Go By,” it would have been ‘Get out and don’t come back.’ Mick and I were trying to hone it down. We kept coming up with these ballads, nothing to do with what we were doing. And then finally we came up with “The Last Time” and looked at each other and said, *let’s try this with the boys. The song has the first recognizable Stones riff or guitar figure on it* ; the chorus is from the Staple Singers’ version, “This May Be the Last Time.” We could work this hook; now we had to find the verse. It had a Stones twist to it, one that maybe couldn’t have been written earlier-a song about going on the road and dumping some chick. “You don’t try very hard to please me.” Not the usual serenade to the unattainable object of desire. That was when it really clicked, with that song, when Mick and I felt confident enough to actually lay it in front of Brian and Charlie and Ian Stewart, especially, arbiter of events. With those earlier songs, we would have been chased out the room. But that song defined us in a way, and it went to number one in the UK. - Keith Richards from his autobiography “Life”
This conclusively tells us where the guitar riff Brian plays in the Last Time came from. Keith wrote it when he wrote the song, well before he even brought it to them..
My first outing to boys scout camp in 1966 was basically a bunch of 14 year-olds, abandoned by the scout masters who dumped us and went off drinking. We had not enough food and left to our own devices to sit in freezing early March mud with nothing what so ever to do except try to keep a fire going and eat up all the food basically the first day to avoid hypothermia and boredom. The one rich kid in our troop, packed off with several dozen store-bought pre-made hamburger patties, made us all out-do each other with flattery and begging to be awarded a half-cooked hunk of hamburger meat. And we did beg and flatter him (hated that bastard to this very day and was happy to piss on his grave). Imagine a bunch of poor kids camping with a 14-year old Donald Trump -- it was basically Lord of the Flies.
After 4 days of this, the scout masters came back from whatever bar they had holed up in and we packed out. On the ride back to Chicago, frozen to the bone and now running a bad fever and basically hating being alive, a new song, Paint It Black, came on the AM radio. I immediately perked up. Who are these people? How is it that they completely understand exactly how my 14-year-old ass feels right at this very moment and are singing it to me on the radio in a way that I could never hope to articulate on my own? Do they have more songs? That was my intro to the Rolling Stones. It's marvelous to finally hear that slithering sitar and rhythm guitar clearly, and I can't thank you enough for this little memory trip.
I hope your Scout Masters were prosecuted.
Ed, thanks for sharing this incident from your teenage years and how your teenage self connected with this Stones classic under depressing circumstances 🎸 ps, I'm from Sydney, Australia and hated my time in the boy scouts also😎
@@williardbillmore5713 What?!?! This was the mid-60's. This was called "Adventure". And when we were a bit older, that's just what we wanted it -- get those old farts out of our hair for a few days so we could get into some serious fun (who's got the cigarettes and firecrackers?).
Re prosecutions -- Again, this was the mid-60's. They'd have had to capture and barbeque a couple of scouts before anyone would have noticed, let alone pressed charges.
@@robmac6508 Haha! But I didn't hate the Scouts -- that trip sucked, but I loved it after I knew the game and had a few trips under my belt. A "character building" experience :-) :-) :-) Still love that I can make a good fire with wet wood and a bit of flint.
Best Regards from California -- I'll still be very disappointed with myself if I don't get to Australia and the Barrier Reef before I check out.
How could the importance of Brian Jones be described? He was the Rolling Stones from their Beginning until his departure in 1969. He was the colour. When he was not there anymore the Rolling Stones turned into something else. It was definitely another Music ever since Sticky Fingers.
Not Ravi Shankar, but he gave it some.
George Harrison played it better but Brian plays it more like a guitar, (like I probably would). I like Brian´s attempts at it better.
I mean, for having so many damned strings, the Sitar can be rendered pretty boring to have to tolerate. LOL! Even a lot of what Ravi played, even though masterfully done, I found boring.
Brian JONES
Jones always rocked up the sitar less reverence than his peers.
Oi että tässähän Brian soittaa sitarilla tän oman kappaleensa. Ja aivan upeesti soittaakin.👍👌
I like tinny strumming that sounds like it was played with a super thin pick. There is lot going on in this track. I remember hearing that engineers would split the bands sound in to Bass Middle and Treble tracks and use 1 spare for voice.
So glad someone did this... Once Brian died, they could never replicate the sound of this song live.. It sounds like trash without him. But its just me I guess. 🤷♂️
0:54 great sitar speed riff. The Brian
Excellent guitars by Keith as well. Especially from 2:58 on
No Jones, No Stones . . .
Fact 👏
Brian was a musical genius
He was not a genius, Barbara. Everything Brian played was copying what someone else had already written.
@@williardbillmore5713but he did it with great effect. He added color to the songs by putting the different instruments in their songs. Regardless if at times he was just imitating what someone else in the song was doing, the bottom line is no one else in the band was adding these instruments but Brian Jones.
@@williardbillmore5713 his slide guitar in “No Expectations” was copying off of who? How about the dulcimer on “Lady Jane”?
@@robertweingartner2055 The three chords Brian slid to, were written by Keith when he wrote the song. The melody Brian picked out of those chords was written by Keith and Mick when they wrote the lyrics and melody and Brian plays in unison with Micks singing..
The dulcimer in Lady Jane merely echos the exact note for note melody that Keith wrote and Mick sings. Every line Brian plays is only played after the exact same musical phrase is sung.
If you like anything Brian played in a Jagger Richards song, you are saying that you like what Jagger and Richards wrote.
Brian never demonstrated an original musical idea in his entire career.
@@robertweingartner2055 My point is, you can't call mimicry genius...
If mimicry were truly genius, then every chimpanzee would be an Einstein.
Brian Jones was the most accomplished musician in the Stones until Mick Taylor joined. Fact.
But NO songwriting talent!
Hé did came from Mayall ' s , that mean à lot...but Mick Taylor arrived in "brown surgar " days ....that killéd Brian ...
@@lamper2 Apparently true. Keith claims that Brian never even came in with part of a song for the group to work on.
Brian Jones could play at least a dozen different instruments, Mick Taylor could only play guitar. Not sure how you would consider Taylor a more "accomplished" musician.
@@jamesh2711 Because he was much better at that one instrument than Jones was on all the instruments he played.
PIB, Best song by the best band and Brian doesn't even get a credit. So much of their 60's stuff would have gone unnoticed without their best player of all things exotica, Brian Jones.. And the real dead Jones last laugh is that that Mick and Keith get no royalties from their ABKO catalogue [62-70]. The greedy duo got F**d by then mgr. Allen Klein. As Keith said ... '' ah well, that's the price of an education''. God Bless Brian. And rest of the Stones too.
George Harrison learn to Brian Jones how to play Sitar on Early 1966 .
Virtuoso instrumentalist
Brian Jones: Super Sitar.
Rubber soul with Norwegian Wood on it was released on Dec 6 1965. Paint It Black was released May 7th 1966 Five months...almost to the day.
Sergeant Pepper released May 26 1967...Their Satanic Majesty's Request released Dec 8 1967...about six months later
There is no trouble to tell which band was trying to keep up with other.
It was like this for most of the decade with The Beatles. They were always one (and sometimes two) steps ahead.
The complexities far outweigh the scope of you and I or anyone, often times eluding any a soul immediately surrounding.
...Or, there's the possibility that both have their respective walks; of which were angelically deemed appropriate they all were. As individuals as well as these individuals respective group.
The rest is up to the fodder of the people. Chatter a good bit of it. No denying the sensible folks such as yourself have a wonderful voice of their own in which I am glad that you shared here for me to read. Many blessings my good fellow
Aivan, kyllä Mikc ja Keith vaan tavallaan polkivat Briania. Kun Brian oli liian kiltti ja aatteli että toiset ovat yhtä hyväsydämisiä. Mutt vuosien kuluessa hän huomasi olevansa jo altavastaaja perustamassaan bändissä. Tavallan hän luovutti, koska huomas että kaks ahnetta jyrää..😢
The Indian sound was introduced into pop music by The Kinks , who in turn influenced The Beatles , then The Rolling Stones .
Awesome
Interesting to see how people see George vs Brian. Would go..I think both are brilliant.
54 years ago the world lost Brian Jones
February 28 1942 - July 3rd 1969
Famulus, would you please make a full instrumental (all but vocal) out of this?
People consistently over estimate Brian. He was great! He got the band together! But before you know it he faded into a guy who played a supporting role to Mick and Keith, and before long he couldn’t even do that. I think his stuff was pretty cool, though.
Brian Jones~Syd Barrett
Stones were always 6 months to a year behind the Beatles
Jumpin' Jack Flash (back to basics) 6 month after Lady Modonna?
Street Fighting Man vs Revolution...
Mick and Keith peaked from late 1967. Lennon late 1964. Paul 1966.
@@FuturePast2019 the stones were still shell shocked from the Beatles sgt peppers album which just raised the bar on the creativity level standards. I’m not going to get into a tit for tat on singles released, but keep in mind both these bands started around the same time, the Beatles gave them their first hit I wanna be your man, led the way to America, which they soon followed, began pushing the envelope with psychedelic and the stones soon followed(cmon tell me the stones didn’t copy peppers with the colors and outfits)and you say Lennon and McCartney peaked in 66 and 67? They were done as a band in 69, but legally it was 1970, but they finished recording in 69, and abbey road is a musical masterpiece from start to finish. From 64 to basically 69 they put out more creative music, more memorable music, influenced more bands than the stones have in nearly 60 years!
@@stevemabus6178 Shell shcoked? They wrote We love You and 2000 Light years in PRISON... See also th-cam.com/video/RZ4hOCD2l8o/w-d-xo.html
Chalk and cheese. Not a fruitful comparison.
@@stevemabus6178 " you say Lennon and McCartney peaked in 66 and 67?"
No JL peak 1964-71. PM 1966-73. 24-31. What I meant was: Not easy to compare before late 1967. And the best Stones albums are from early 70's.
The most streamed song from 1965 is Satisfaction (not Yesterday). 1966: Paint it Black. Never a L/M song, but 1969: Here comes the sun...
Do you have Brian on piano in any songs on TH-cam?
Play together sitar (Brian) and guitar (Keith)
keith’s guitar is still all over this
Are the vocals you hear just an artifact of how they bounced multiple tracks onto one so they could leave space for overdubs? Or was the sitar itself one of the overdubs that got its own dedicated track?
A lot of what folks believe is Jones' sitar is actually Keith's guitar. Brian simply repeated a basic sitar pattern.
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Is the very start a guitar?
yes, the opening intro is Keith Richards’ guitar
He learned the sitar from George Harrison...... good friends.
this isnt just the sitar
The only solution of Brian's murder is: Lewis Brian Hopkin Jones born 1942.02.28 = Otto Wilhelm Rahn which resigned from SS EXACTLY 3YEARS before: 1939.02.28 !!!
Are you sure it's a real sitar and not a Vincent Bell Coral guitar?
Do you know of the Coral Guitar?
I have the Dan Electro model, they're super cool and I think they used a sitar guitar on this cut, I'm gonna research.
@@DizzyScribbles88 Danelectro produced the guitar. It was designed by renowned session guitarist Vincent Bell. I think the name, spelt coral is a corruption of the word choral for obvious reasons
Good luck
@@DizzyScribbles88 p.s
I think it was 1967