Its hard to even imagine Under my thumb without the marimba, or Red Roster without the Slide guitar, or Ruby Tuesday without the recorder, or paint it Black without the Sitar. Brian exotic sounds put the stones on the Map directly rivaling the Beatles, like no other band at the time could do. That 60s Jones song era still draws crowds and sustains the band, even over 60 years later.
He put unimaginative repetitive simple parts from odd instruments onto songs that were already destined to be hit songs anyway. Jagger and Richards were the meat and potatoes of all those songs. Jones was like the garnish that made the plate look good but was never eaten. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I have heard and appreciated all the tunes you just mentioned without those Jones "contributions" and they ALL hold up as wonderful compositions and arrangements that were destined to become hit songs with or without Jones's musical garnish added to them.
I once had the pleasure of hanging out with an old blues guitarist and he said that this was the rolling Stones best instrumentally speaking, so groovy!
It was not a great job. Brian just copied the exact same musical figure that Bill played in the intro transposing it up an octave for the marimbas and never varied it one iota throughout the entire song. He was like a robot or a sequencing machine, just as he did on so many other numbers..Unimaginative monotonous repetition.
It is a revealing change that helps us to realize just how little Jones contributed to the arrangement. The marimas part sounds like a sequencer, playing the exact same part over and over and over with no variation.
@@jnielsen1956 Keith lazily co-wrote almost all of the Stones songs and arranged all of them. Do you think Brian was a wimp who couldn't stick up for himself?
The best part here is the drumming. The great thing about Brian always is how sensitive he is towards the playing of the other. That is the secret of his contribution. He really was the soul of the 'band'. We don't really have bands anymore. Sad state of affairs
Bullshit. Brian stole the part he played on the marimbas from Bills bass part in the intro. He continued to play the exact same figure on the marimbas following keith's chord progression. Brian never altered the marimba part throughout the song, playing the exact same notes over and over again like a robot. Brian had the "soul" of a musical robot.
@@williardbillmore5713 bullshit - according to Bill himself, he & Charlie were working up a rhythm and Brian took up the mallets on a marimba left by another band and created the melody, The Glimmer Twins hadn't even arrived in the studio yet. He tells basically the same thing about Paint It Black (swap out marimba for a sitar) Ruby Tuesday is based on a piano figure Brian kept bringing to the band and he and Keith finally made it into a full song, Mick is singing Brians recorder melody, and you can witness him say he had nothing to do with the writing on youtube though of course they deny Brian in spite of Marianne Faithful & Bill's telling of Brian's involvement. After Brian the Stones turned into a 3 chord rock band in open G tuning at that LOL
What is self evident is that Brian had no imagination or creativity whatsoever. He would play the exact same part note for note with no variation throughout the entire song.
Bill plays a fuzz bass part to Keiths counter melody of the vocal. Bill's fuzz bass was added so Brians unison mirroring of the intro bass line so the chorus would not become too monotonous and repetitive. Brian played the exact same musical figure (Bills intro bass line) unimaginatively throughout the entire song, verse and chorus.
@@gothickingmongoose3028 Not hating ...Just trying to set the record straight about Brian's shortcomings as a musician and a human being. The level of mythology built around him is staggering.
I think he wrote a lot more than he got credited for. In fact I think that was the source of his disillusionment when he realised none of the writing royalties were coming to him. Jagger went to Economics school up until he understood copyright law, and how music royalties worked.
Even if Brian never developed as a songwriter. His multi instrumental talent was his gift to the band. It’s a shame drugs, isolation, cruel arrests and paranoia brought him down.
This as well as other classic stones songs from the mid sixties has the late great Brian Jones all over them and yet they dont give him the recognition he deserves. RIP BRIAN
That's not how it works. Credit goes to the composer of the melodies and the lyrics of a composition, not the accompaniments. George Harrison usually composed his own accompaniment parts to Lennon McCartney songs , but they wrote the melodies and the lyrics, and got the credits. When George wrote his own songs melodies and Lyrics, he got full credit for them as being HIS songs. Lennon and McCartney did not get credit on Harrison songs although they composed and played their own parts on the recordings. Jones NEVER wrote any melodies or lyrics to ANY Stones songs. Don't be stupid.
@Baron Von Shyster What Jagger is referring to is that he usually wrote the lyrics for the bulk of the verses while Keith usually wrote the refrain and the melody. But in this case Keith did all the work of writing the lyrics and the Music. It was special song to him, he was heartbroken. Maryanne is referring to Jones writing the accompaniment on the recorder. the dominant instrument in the accompaniment but NOT the melody of the song. The recorder part follows Richard's chords. It is worth noting that in the album that Goodbye Ruby Tuesday appears on, the liner notes credit Jack Nitzche the same chap who plays piano on the flip side, Lets Spend The Night Together. It was always *assumed* that Jones played the piano on the recording because there is an obscure piece of film that shows Jones playing something on the piano that may or may not sound like Ruby Tuesday, and singles have no liner notes . As far as Jagger getting rights to the writing of Ruby Tuesday... Jagger/Richards are a songwriting team and are copyright registered as a team. It is no secret that Penny Lane was written and produced by Paul McCartney, but the credit goes to the Lennon/McCartney team. It's not unusual. Why don't you know that?
Sorry, james but copyright law does not give participation awards. Maybe that could be appropriate if Jones was retarded... But he wasn't. Ruby Tuesday is completely a Keith Richards song to which Brian did an accompaniment... That isn't co-writing... Think about it... Should Ringo own copyrights as co-writer, to every Lennon McCartney song he made up a drum accompaniment for? It doesn't work like that... Don't be stupid.
66 & 67 Stones is one of the greatest bands ever for recorded music. Aftermath/Buttons/Santanic Majesties plus all the amazing singles. Brian made em sing with swagger. The list of amazing tracks is long and diverse. Can’t think of another band with such breadth in a short span
Jones contributed the least to the band and nothing whatsoever to their catalog. He couldn't write, sing or dance. He tended to play very simple unimaginative repetitive parts without variation no matter what instrument he was playing. He had the stage presence of a self absorbed grinning goon always looking for and mugging for the cameras.
Mick and Keith may be the meat and potatoes but Brian was the seasoning, he was the flavor, he was the secret formula of the band. After the Brian era, I was just eating straight up plain meat and potatoes.
Brian and Bill (on bass) are basically playing the same pattern on two different instruments. I'm only guessing here but Bill most likely came up with his bass pattern first and Brian simply duplicated it for the treble effect. I do agree that the xylophone gives the song a wonderfully "catchy" dynamic.
If "no Jones no Stones" ...what the hell has the entire world been listening to for the last 53 years? Jones was the most expendable member of the Rolling Stones. After he left they became a much better and more popular band selling out arenas and stadiums all over the world. NO JONES, BETTER STONES... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Brian’s Marimba carried this song ! I love The Rolling Stones but I saw a video of them performing this song when they came to U.S. tour in 1969 a few months after Brian was fired and had passed away and hearing the song without Brian bringing in his marimba just left a terrible void in that song and I didn’t particularly like it without the marimba being in there !
The Stones were definitely more progressive in the sense of the exploration of different sounds in their songs when Brian was still in the band. He added so much to the musical detail of these older numbers as well as the their image. They just weren't the same after he died.
Just overly talented secret weapon who excelled on all instruments! You didn't need him to write cause he came up with great parts...their career is definitely distinct without him...they slid into boogie country hard rock and later disco new wave stuff...having Jones around was like having 5 studio musicians in one plus a flare for exotica...Peter Gabriel type world music before it became as such...
Right on! Man, if you could make an isolation of the guitars on Jumping Jack Flash, you would really have something. I’ve been trying to learn that song properly for like 35 years.
JJF has a deceivingly simple sound to it but when you analyze it Keith's genius of intertwining three guitar tracks to get the sound he wants is almost impossible to pick apart Fun fact ; The first line in the song, "I was born in a crossfire hurricane" was written by Keith. He was indeed born during a bombing raid on the town of Dartford England near the end of World War Two, in an air raid shelter.
tracing this back through all the recordings (there's a film) it is clear to me that Brian came up with the guitar riff and rhythm. I think that when the song was grabbed up by Keith and Mick, and Brian's contribution was swept under the rug, that it was the straw that broke the camel's back. The true break between Brian and his band
I know Brian could play loads of instuments but friggin hell he could even play the xylophone , he had more talent in his little finger than the rest of them put together. He could even play the kazoo made from a comb and paper , wow ! . 😁
@@larryn2682 Hey Larry ! are ya listening ? I know Brian could play loads of instuments but f☆ck my boots he could even play the harp , he had more talent in his nobend than the rest of them put together , don't ya think ? knock once for yes or 37 times for no .
You are flat out as wrong as you could possibly be, Davy... Jones didn't have enough talent to write one single song for the band he supposedly "led" for eight years. The real talent in the stones was Keith and Mick's incredible knack for writing hit songs, one after another for decades...Without Keith and Mick writing Under My Thumb there would be no song or tune for Jones to play marimba to.
@@williardbillmore5713 So you think they've got more talent because they could write songs do ya ? I beg to differ , not all of their songs are good and in the early day they were other people's songs they were singing .anyway .
I saw them on that last US tour with Brian. Aftermath was their current album. It was July 66. Brian was incredible. Played vibes, sitar, dulcimer and of course, guitars. They were never as great once he was killed. They still dwarfed The Beatles but not as powerfully as when Brian was in the lineup. And now...yikes. Ron Wood is a hack. Without Charlie, it's all over now.
@@lext4374 Ron played guitar on more number one hit records with Rod Stewart alone than Jones did in his entire career. In fact Ron played on more hit records between his work with Beck, Stewart and the Stones than most guitarists in showbusiness, period. Barring NONE! Ron Wood is a masterful guitar player competent and fluid in all genres of pop music from classical to raunchy delta slide. You are an ignoramus hack. You are obviously not a guitarist...
B. Jones wrote that part of the song! Should of received 💲 publishing royalties for co- writer. Why do think he just didn't care anymore! Greedy bastards Jagger Richards
That's like saying that George Harrison should have gotten co writer status because he wrote the lead guitar parts on Lennon McCartney songs. Odds are Richards showed Jones what to play anyway. It was his song. Don't be stupid.
@@larryn2682 It seems perfectly logical that the singer would write all the lyrics and the guitarist would write all the music . But in the case of the Jagger/ Richards team, you would be dead wrong... It may surprise you to learn that sometimes Jagger comes up with a melody or a chord progression he likes and Keith may write all the lyrics to some songs. Jagger is not only a guitarist but he is a decent pianist as well and Richards is Jagger's equal in his intelligence and verbosity.They are both equally clever and very well read. Either of them are capable of writing a song alone in it's entirety or deferring the whole job to the other partner without any ego clashes. In most cases Kieth writes the chorus and the musical hook and Mick will fill out most of the meat of the Lyrics and melody. Keith once described it as ... "my job is to get Mick excited about a song idea so he can jump in and finish it"..."it's often two or three words that sound good together or what we like to call; a good vowel movement"... The only rule they tend to keep is the one that states; "Rule #1; there are no rules".
I think we all can put to rest the Myths that Brian founded the stones, auditioned each one of them and hand picked the members he wanted in his band. Not a word of that Saint Jones worshiper's mantra is true. Brian asked to join Keith's band. Keith agreed. Jones was never the founder of the Rolling Stones. and not one full member of the Rolling Stones was "recruited by Brian's advert in that Jazz magazine He wasn't even a founding member of the band that became the Rolling stones. Keith's band ...always was. Always will be.
"Keith is the heart, Mick the best performer in the world apart from James Brown when he was young, and Ronnie is a soloist, humorous spirit is good to have around"- Charlie Watts
Keith's rhythm sounds like the rhythm of Satisfaction; not the riff but just how it sounds, very........ hard to explain... like a playground at night...
Since Jones' marimba playing was the exact bass part that Bill played in the intro and never varied throughout the song, Bill added the fuzz bass parts to the chorus to break the repetition and monotony of the song. Jones played the exact same line throughout the entire song without any variation. He sounded like a robotic sequencer.
Brian doesn't even get a writing crediton this one. So much of their 60's stuff would have gone unnoticed without their best player of all things exotica, Brian Jones.. And the real dead Jones last laugh is that that Mick and Keith get no royalties from their ABKO catalogue [62-70]. The greedy duo got F**d by then mgr. Allen Klein. As Keith said ... '' ah well, that's the price of an education''. God Bless Brian. And rest of the Stones too.
Brian didn't write the sog so he did not get cret for writing the song. That is how it works, James. Jones proved in eight years that he could not write or sing
pensar que este clásico del rock pues tiene una historia así como que bastante perturbadora es muy loca. se dice que esta canción fue escrita por Brian Jones cuándo terminó con su novia Anita pallenberg y pues la verdad me hizo así pensar de que los noviazgos terminan así muy rápido
It’s pretty strange that grown men would devote time and energy to denigrating one member of a legendary band to elevate another. Keith is great. Brian is great. The stones were great with Brian. They were great without him.
We are trying to set the record straight,Tim. The Stones were successful in their first eight years in spite of Jones' presence, not because of his contributions. I would not be commenting here at all but for all the praise gushed here onto the most expendable member of the early Stones. After Jones was canned the band got bigger and better than they had ever been, immediately. That tells a lot.
@@jsmith469 I don't hate Brian Jones In fact I feel sorry for what happened to him. I do however hate it when 53 years after the fact people who were not even around then bestow accolades on Brian posthumously that he never deserved or earned in life. He just wasn't very talented. He enjoyed a very good paycheck on the backs of other more talented people in the band who did all the writing and made all the hits. Jones was a leech.
And to think, all that the band had to offer afterwards was 'Let it Bleed', 'Sticky Fingers' and 'Exile on Main Street'. Post Beggar's Banquet Jones was a burnt out shell and a passenger.
@@williardbillmore5713 I love Stew but The Stones used 4 or 5 other keyboard players in those years, too. Jack Nitzsche, Nicky Hopkins, Billy Preston, Ian MacLagan among them.
@@falcon5467 The Stones understood that there were two tiers of on stage performers and the Stones were known primarily as a guitar band. Pianists were seen as utility infielders were seen on baseball teams. Important to have for results, but not really the stars of the game.... They managed to always perform on stage and in the studio with some of the best piano players in the business, and none of the fans saw any of them as being members of the band.The same could be said of the many saxophone players who had solo parts on many of the Stones most famous recordings and were never recognized as being a real part of the band.
@@williardbillmore5713 I like to think that Keith and Mick both got their appreciation of piano accompaniment in rock 'n roll from listening to Chuck Berry songs that featured the great Johnnie Johnson on piano.
As with so many songs, all Brian is playing for the entire song is Bill's bass part a couple of octaves higher in unison with him. The bass part was mirrored and copied so much in this song Keith had to overdub a fuzz bass part during the coda to keep it from sounding hackneyed and over repetitious. Jones had no imagination and could never vary or improvise anything. He was a copyist automaton.
Ever notice that the parts that Keith gave to Brian to play were always repetitive and super simple. That's what you have to do with a guy who was always as high as he could get on any given day. Musically the band was carried by Keith. He was and remains the genius and musical director of the group.
Why are you making the same negative comments on multiple Stones songs about Brian, you got a problem?. The Stones are a band and not session musicians - Brian was not 'given' parts to play, he came up with what he thought the song needed, eg Keith and Mick did not write a Marimba part for him to play. Keith gets and deserves plenty of credit as he is a legend, recognising what Brian did in his prime does not lessen that
@@DavidGigg Yeah I got a problem with all these people so quick to praise the dead guy as a genius all these years later. The Stones never had a shortage of geniuses but Jones was never one of them. He played what he was told to play when he was straight enough to perform. He was a horrible person who no one, who knew him, liked. Make no mistake the Stones were never a democracy and Richards has always been the co-musical director along with Jagger. That particular marimba part was most likely written and played for the recording by Ian Stewart, the Stone's piano player and tour manager from 1961 to 1985 or as I have always suspected a copying of Bill Wyman's bass line from the intro of the song Jagger and Richards were always the heart and soul of the Stones. Jones was the window dressing until he was too high, too full of himself and too cantankerous to contribute artistically anymore. They became a better band in Jones' absence.Jones selfishly very nearly destroyed the greatest pure rock band in the world. That is the "problem" I have with people posthumously lavishing praise on him.
@@williardbillmore5713 Well, we 100% know for sure that Ian Stewart did not write and play that marimba part. Jagger and Richards absolutely did become the heart and soul of the Stones - no argument there. But Brian recruited them to his band at the start.
@@DavidGigg The only other hit the Stones had that featured a marimba like instrument was Monkey Man Released well after Jones' death. Guess who was still their piano player at that time? ...Ian Stewart...and guess who is credited with playing vibraphone on THAT song? Bill Wyman, Ha ha ha ha ha Ian never took credit as a band member... Who could possibly imagine that if Keith had died instead of Brian in 1969 that the Stones could continue on with hundreds of hit songs for another 53 years? Get real...Jones was no writer. He was an egotistical druggie who tagged along on Richards' and Jagger's genius for eight years when he then selfishly almost broke up the band before he was fired and overdosed. Now 53 years later everyone is gushing how Brian Jones was the genius behind the success of the Stones. What bullcrap. Ron Wood has been a guitar player in the Stones almost six times longer than Jones was... Joining the band in 1975... 47 years ago!
No Jones no Stones-he was an immense talent shut out by Jagger/Richards and given no writing credits or encouragement-rIpped off like Mick Taylor was who left rather than put up with their greed. A money making machine well past its sell by date and churning out the same stuff decade after decade-why haven't they died of boredom!!
Its hard to even imagine Under my thumb without the marimba, or Red Roster without the Slide guitar, or Ruby Tuesday without the recorder, or paint it Black without the Sitar. Brian exotic sounds put the stones on the Map directly rivaling the Beatles, like no other band at the time could do. That 60s Jones song era still draws crowds and sustains the band, even over 60 years later.
He put unimaginative repetitive simple parts from odd instruments onto songs that were already destined to be hit songs anyway.
Jagger and Richards were the meat and potatoes of all those songs. Jones was like the garnish that made the plate look good but was never eaten.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I have heard and appreciated all the tunes you just mentioned without those Jones "contributions" and they ALL hold up as wonderful compositions and arrangements that were destined to become hit songs with or without Jones's musical garnish added to them.
@@tinpanally51_36 Thank you. I am sick and tired of hearing about Jones' nonexistent "genius"...
He was a talentless hanger on and a psychopath.
@@williardbillmore5713 your a moron and weren't even alive during Brian's tenure. Your thanking the wrong person I love Brian . .
@@williardbillmore5713 k
I once had the pleasure of hanging out with an old blues guitarist and he said that this was the rolling Stones best instrumentally speaking, so groovy!
Great job by Brian on this one. Hard to imagine UMT without the the marimbas.
It’s really very easy. You don’t have to imagine. Just listen to any live version and you wont find any marimba.
Brian was the "George" Harrison on the Rolling Stones.
Multi instrumentalist.
Got a song here and there.
He died before I saw them twice.
72 & 78
You fucking right about that brother.
Me parece que B j.era como el Juan Gabriel Vientos.
It was not a great job. Brian just copied the exact same musical figure that Bill played in the intro transposing it up an octave for the marimbas and never varied it one iota throughout the entire song.
He was like a robot or a sequencing machine, just as he did on so many other numbers..Unimaginative monotonous repetition.
Nothing against Mick, he's a force, but it's nice to hear just the instrumentation
If you listen closely, you can hear Mick at times.
It is a revealing change that helps us to realize just how little Jones contributed to the arrangement. The marimas part sounds like a sequencer, playing the exact same part over and over and over with no variation.
Yes, like trump sometimes you just do not want to hear him.
@@ruffian2952 TRUMP 2024 MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!
@@williardbillmore5713 useless troll
Always loved the marimba and bass playing contrasting lines. Also some great fills by Keith. He actually sounds soulful for a change.
For a change? How does he usually sound?
@@timmancillas8326 I wouldn't have even responded to a post that stupid.
Yeah, "Can't You Hear Me Knocking"", no soul there.
@@jnielsen1956 Keith lazily co-wrote almost all of the Stones songs and arranged all of them. Do you think Brian was a wimp who couldn't stick up for himself?
Fuzz bass on the chorus and fade out
The best part here is the drumming. The great thing about Brian always is how sensitive he is towards the playing of the other. That is the secret of his contribution. He really was the soul of the 'band'. We don't really have bands anymore. Sad state of affairs
Hey Charlie Mick and Keith and Bill work no slouches I know I miss Bryan too but that was a 5-piece well-orchestrated rock band rock on Rolling Stones
Bullshit. Brian stole the part he played on the marimbas from Bills bass part in the intro. He continued to play the exact same figure on the marimbas following keith's chord progression. Brian never altered the marimba part throughout the song, playing the exact same notes over and over again like a robot.
Brian had the "soul" of a musical robot.
Great part is the main riff on the marimbas as well, composed by Brian Jones
@@williardbillmore5713 bullshit - according to Bill himself, he & Charlie were working up a rhythm and Brian took up the mallets on a marimba left by another band and created the melody, The Glimmer Twins hadn't even arrived in the studio yet. He tells basically the same thing about Paint It Black (swap out marimba for a sitar) Ruby Tuesday is based on a piano figure Brian kept bringing to the band and he and Keith finally made it into a full song, Mick is singing Brians recorder melody, and you can witness him say he had nothing to do with the writing on youtube though of course they deny Brian in spite of Marianne Faithful & Bill's telling of Brian's involvement. After Brian the Stones turned into a 3 chord rock band in open G tuning at that LOL
@@Youman71463Thanks for your comment!!!..
What is amazing is these songs that Brian gave his flare & flavor are just as beautiful & amazing without vocals. That’s how u know it’s a classic
Hearing the instrumental version explains the layers of the song, this is briljant. Simple but spot on !
The Self Evident talent of Brian Jones
What is self evident is that Brian had no imagination or creativity whatsoever. He would play the exact same part note for note with no variation throughout the entire song.
@@williardbillmore5713you really hating on the guy huh. Not everything melodic needs variation.
The rhythm is so great in this song and of course Brian on the Marimba helps to make this song a CLASSIC Stones tune. Bravo
Greatest Rock and Roll Band EVER ❤...
The marimba has a fantastic sound. It’s what makes the song sound so good.
This has to be one of coolest grooves of all time. Thanks again for these instrumentals, nice work!
Fantastic. To my ears, I'm hearing the two guitars out of sync during the chorus part - but it sounds so right. Brilliant.
Bill plays a fuzz bass part to Keiths counter melody of the vocal. Bill's fuzz bass was added so Brians unison mirroring of the intro bass line so the chorus would not become too monotonous and repetitive. Brian played the exact same musical figure (Bills intro bass line) unimaginatively throughout the entire song, verse and chorus.
Brian Jones was always the unsung hero of the band. He would've developed into a great songwriter in his own right just like George Harrison did.
Not a chance ,,,Harrison was in another league
@@williardbillmore5713dude you've been in every comment here and hating on Jones. Get a life.
@@gothickingmongoose3028 Not hating ...Just trying to set the record straight about Brian's shortcomings as a musician and a human being.
The level of mythology built around him is staggering.
I think he wrote a lot more than he got credited for. In fact I think that was the source of his disillusionment when he realised none of the writing royalties were coming to him. Jagger went to Economics school up until he understood copyright law, and how music royalties worked.
Even if Brian never developed as a songwriter. His multi instrumental talent was his gift to the band. It’s a shame drugs, isolation, cruel arrests and paranoia brought him down.
This as well as other classic stones songs from the mid sixties has the late great Brian Jones all over them and yet they dont give him the recognition he deserves. RIP BRIAN
Brian made it a hit! I always thought Mick and Keith could have shared the the writing credits more generously.
That's not how it works. Credit goes to the composer of the melodies and the lyrics of a composition, not the accompaniments.
George Harrison usually composed his own accompaniment parts to Lennon McCartney songs , but they wrote the melodies and the lyrics, and got the credits. When George wrote his own songs melodies and Lyrics, he got full credit for them as being HIS songs. Lennon and McCartney did not get credit on Harrison songs although they composed and played their own parts on the recordings.
Jones NEVER wrote any melodies or lyrics to ANY Stones songs.
Don't be stupid.
@Baron Von Shyster What Jagger is referring to is that he usually wrote the lyrics for the bulk of the verses while Keith usually wrote the refrain and the melody. But in this case Keith did all the work of writing the lyrics and the Music. It was special song to him, he was heartbroken.
Maryanne is referring to Jones writing the accompaniment on the recorder. the dominant instrument in the accompaniment but NOT the melody of the song. The recorder part follows Richard's chords.
It is worth noting that in the album that Goodbye Ruby Tuesday appears on, the liner notes credit Jack Nitzche the same chap who plays piano on the flip side, Lets Spend The Night Together.
It was always *assumed* that Jones played the piano on the recording because there is an obscure piece of film that shows Jones playing something on the piano that may or may not sound like Ruby Tuesday, and singles have no liner notes .
As far as Jagger getting rights to the writing of Ruby Tuesday... Jagger/Richards are a songwriting team and are copyright registered as a team.
It is no secret that Penny Lane was written and produced by Paul McCartney, but the credit goes to the Lennon/McCartney team.
It's not unusual.
Why don't you know that?
Sorry, james but copyright law does not give participation awards. Maybe that could be appropriate if Jones was retarded... But he wasn't.
Ruby Tuesday is completely a Keith Richards song to which Brian did an accompaniment... That isn't co-writing...
Think about it...
Should Ringo own copyrights as co-writer, to every Lennon McCartney song he made up a drum accompaniment for?
It doesn't work like that...
Don't be stupid.
@Baron Roth Von Shyster Goldstein Marianne Faithfull never said it that way and she wasn’t there.
THEY SHOULD HAVE MICK AND KIETH WERE SELFISH
One of my favorite Stones tunes. Vintage Keith
Zilch to do with Keith, mate. Brian Jones on the melotrone and Bill Wyman on bass are the stars.
@@Andrew-rv6if Yes..3 chord Keith when he met Brian..lol..😂🤣🥳
Jones brought a beautifully badass vibe to songs like this!
Wow, this Rolling Stones Under My Thumb Instrumental music is so groovy and totally awesome!!
Una Genialidad 🎶 por siempre Brian Jones!! 👏👏
Por siempre no, solo por 6 años, la genialidad es Keith Richards desde hace 60 años
66 & 67 Stones is one of the greatest bands ever for recorded music. Aftermath/Buttons/Santanic Majesties plus all the amazing singles. Brian made em sing with swagger. The list of amazing tracks is long and diverse. Can’t think of another band with such breadth in a short span
The precursor to The Rolling Stones was Brian Jones!
Jones contributed the least to the band and nothing whatsoever to their catalog.
He couldn't write, sing or dance. He tended to play very simple unimaginative repetitive parts without variation no matter what instrument he was playing.
He had the stage presence of a self absorbed grinning goon always looking for and mugging for the cameras.
@@williardbillmore5713 Evidently you know 💩nothing!
The instrumental is beautiful !! ❤
Brian was a genius who flamed out like Icarus. And, yes, these songs would be nothing without him.
Actually, the reality was, he flamed out like a damp squib.
Nonsense. @@yassassin6425
Jones on the marimba is top shelf.
The recording sound they achieved is GOLD
very clever, this instrumental is so wonderful I hope they play this at my funeral, lol
Brian a fait la célébrité de cette chanson extraordinaire, mais la basse de Bill lui a donné toute sa force
Mick and Keith may be the meat and potatoes but Brian was the seasoning, he was the flavor, he was the secret formula of the band. After the Brian era, I was just eating straight up plain meat and potatoes.
Musical Genius Brian Jones, on Xylophone (Marimba) that’s what made this song “VIBE” RIP BJ🎵🎸
NO JONES NO STONES 🇬🇧🎧🇬🇧
Agree 100%
Brian and Bill (on bass) are basically playing the same pattern on two different instruments. I'm only guessing here but Bill most likely came up with his bass pattern first and Brian simply duplicated it for the treble effect. I do agree that the xylophone gives the song a wonderfully "catchy" dynamic.
@@falcon5467 It was the opposite way around. Producer/pianist Jack Nietzsche who was in the session said Brian came up with it.
@@bookmakers Fine, I'll buy that.
If "no Jones no Stones" ...what the hell has the entire world been listening to for the last 53 years? Jones was the most expendable member of the Rolling Stones.
After he left they became a much better and more popular band selling out arenas and stadiums all over the world.
NO JONES, BETTER STONES...
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Brian’s Marimba carried this song ! I love The Rolling Stones but I saw a video of them performing this song when they came to U.S. tour in 1969 a few months after Brian was fired and had passed away and hearing the song without Brian bringing in his marimba just left a terrible void in that song and I didn’t particularly like it without the marimba being in there !
all the songs were then!!!!
@@alaincelos476 Yep they all had a different vibe and sound after he was gone from the band ! Still a great band but missing the Brian Jones element !
The Stones were definitely more progressive in the sense of the exploration of different sounds in their songs when Brian was still in the band. He added so much to the musical detail of these older numbers as well as the their image. They just weren't the same after he died.
No they were never the same without Brian...They were better without him.
I could listen to this every day. And probably have!
Really special! Thanks for share.
Just overly talented secret weapon who excelled on all instruments! You didn't need him to write cause he came up with great parts...their career is definitely distinct without him...they slid into boogie country hard rock and later disco new wave stuff...having Jones around was like having 5 studio musicians in one plus a flare for exotica...Peter Gabriel type world music before it became as such...
Right on! Man, if you could make an isolation of the guitars on Jumping Jack Flash, you would really have something. I’ve been trying to learn that song properly for like 35 years.
Check James James guitar lesson video on studio version of JJF.
Tune guitar to open G
JJF has a deceivingly simple sound to it but when you analyze it Keith's genius of intertwining three guitar tracks to get the sound he wants is almost impossible to pick apart
Fun fact ; The first line in the song, "I was born in a crossfire hurricane" was written by Keith. He was indeed born during a bombing raid on the town of Dartford England near the end of World War Two, in an air raid shelter.
tracing this back through all the recordings (there's a film) it is clear to me that Brian came up with the guitar riff and rhythm. I think that when the song was grabbed up by Keith and Mick, and Brian's contribution was swept under the rug, that it was the straw that broke the camel's back. The true break between Brian and his band
I've always wanted to learn to play the acoustic guitar to this.
Classical & Rock fusion good combo back thin for the Stones there best work.
I know Brian could play loads of instuments but friggin hell he could even play the xylophone , he had more talent in his little finger than the rest of them put together.
He could even play the kazoo made from a comb and paper , wow ! . 😁
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@@larryn2682 YES !
@@larryn2682 Hey Larry ! are ya listening ? I know Brian could play loads of instuments but f☆ck my boots he could even play the harp , he had more talent in his nobend than the rest of them put together , don't ya think ? knock once for yes or 37 times for no .
You are flat out as wrong as you could possibly be, Davy...
Jones didn't have enough talent to write one single song for the band he supposedly "led" for eight years. The real talent in the stones was Keith and Mick's incredible knack for writing hit songs, one after another for decades...Without Keith and Mick writing Under My Thumb there would be no song or tune for Jones to play marimba to.
@@williardbillmore5713 So you think they've got more talent because they could write songs do ya ? I beg to differ , not all of their songs are good and in the early day they were other people's songs they were singing .anyway .
Replay, replay, replay! Just lost in it xx
I always want to hear it louder!!😝😝
I love Brian Jones
I saw them on that last US tour with Brian. Aftermath was their current album. It was July 66. Brian was incredible. Played vibes, sitar, dulcimer and of course, guitars. They were never as great once he was killed. They still dwarfed The Beatles but not as powerfully as when Brian was in the lineup. And now...yikes. Ron Wood is a hack. Without Charlie, it's all over now.
The RS always creeped me out. Except for Brian Jones.
Brian never played, sitar or any vibes live on stage. Only guitar, harmonica, dulcimer, recorder and keyboards.
“Dwarfed the Beatles”😬
@@lext4374 Ron played guitar on more number one hit records with Rod Stewart alone than Jones did in his entire career. In fact Ron played on more hit records between his work with Beck, Stewart and the Stones than most guitarists in showbusiness, period. Barring NONE!
Ron Wood is a masterful guitar player competent and fluid in all genres of pop music from classical to raunchy delta slide.
You are an ignoramus hack.
You are obviously not a guitarist...
"Without Charlie, it's all over now" - intentional reference?
wow Keith is so tasty...thanks for this
Le meilleur stone parmi les Stones.
El sello Stone lo creo Brian, que los diferencio de los demás grupos. Le imprimió un plus que desapareció después de su ausencia.
Great song!
B. Jones wrote that part of the song! Should of received 💲 publishing royalties for co- writer. Why do think he just didn't care anymore! Greedy bastards Jagger Richards
That particular marimba part was written and played by Ian Stewart the Stones piano player from 1961 to 1985.
Jones played the part for TV.
That's like saying that George Harrison should have gotten co writer status because he wrote the lead guitar parts on Lennon McCartney songs.
Odds are Richards showed Jones what to play anyway. It was his song.
Don't be stupid.
@@williardbillmore5713 Jagger lyrics.
@@larryn2682 Richards wrote the music and Jones couldn't sing...What's your point?
@@larryn2682 It seems perfectly logical that the singer would write all the lyrics and the guitarist would write all the music . But in the case of the Jagger/ Richards team, you would be dead wrong... It may surprise you to learn that sometimes Jagger comes up with a melody or a chord progression he likes and Keith may write all the lyrics to some songs. Jagger is not only a guitarist but he is a decent pianist as well and Richards is Jagger's equal in his intelligence and verbosity.They are both equally clever and very well read. Either of them are capable of writing a song alone in it's entirety or deferring the whole job to the other partner without any ego clashes.
In most cases Kieth writes the chorus and the musical hook and Mick will fill out most of the meat of the Lyrics and melody.
Keith once described it as ... "my job is to get Mick excited about a song idea so he can jump in and finish it"..."it's often two or three words that sound good together or what we like to call; a good vowel movement"...
The only rule they tend to keep is the one that states; "Rule #1; there are no rules".
Rush Limbaugh was once fired for playing this song too many times😎 Love Brian Jones wish he could have kept his act together
RIP BRIAN
I think we all can put to rest the Myths that Brian founded the stones, auditioned each one of them and hand picked the members he wanted in his band.
Not a word of that Saint Jones worshiper's mantra is true.
Brian asked to join Keith's band.
Keith agreed.
Jones was never the founder of the Rolling Stones. and not one full member of the Rolling Stones was "recruited by Brian's advert in that Jazz magazine
He wasn't even a founding member of the band that became the Rolling stones.
Keith's band ...always was.
Always will be.
"Keith is the heart, Mick the best performer in the world apart from James Brown when he was young, and Ronnie is a soloist, humorous spirit is good to have around"- Charlie Watts
Mick is a hack...
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Jokes aside, this is a really good listen tbh
Brain is the best 💋
No Mick Jagger, No Stones period!
PURE ROLLING STONES... NO BERNARD FOWLER
É impossível não ouvir a voz do Mick
"The slimey dog who's just had her day..." Doesn't get much better in pop music. That's what I say, F 'em all!
Except it isn't. The correct lyric is 'squirming'.
Keith's rhythm sounds like the rhythm of Satisfaction; not the riff but just how it sounds, very........ hard to explain... like a playground at night...
Where the “Gimme Shelter” rhythm track came from.
This was the band, then he left
fuzz bass...who played it?
Since Jones' marimba playing was the exact bass part that Bill played in the intro and never varied throughout the song, Bill added the fuzz bass parts to the chorus to break the repetition and monotony of the song. Jones played the exact same line throughout the entire song without any variation.
He sounded like a robotic sequencer.
Brian doesn't even get a writing crediton this one. So much of their 60's stuff would have gone unnoticed without their best player of all things exotica, Brian Jones.. And the real dead Jones last laugh is that that Mick and Keith get no royalties from their ABKO catalogue [62-70]. The greedy duo got F**d by then mgr. Allen Klein. As Keith said ... '' ah well, that's the price of an education''. God Bless Brian. And rest of the Stones too.
Brian didn't write the sog so he did not get cret for writing the song. That is how it works, James.
Jones proved in eight years that he could not write or sing
If only Brian could have written or sung anything they would have been a better band.
He was a waste of space.
pensar que este clásico del rock pues tiene una historia así como que bastante perturbadora es muy loca. se dice que esta canción fue escrita por Brian Jones cuándo terminó con su novia Anita pallenberg y pues la verdad me hizo así pensar de que los noviazgos terminan así muy rápido
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It’s proof that they needed Mick Jagger and always have. “It’s the singer not the song, that makes the music move along.”
This is music for skelingtons.
It’s pretty strange that grown men would devote time and energy to denigrating one member of a legendary band to elevate another. Keith is great. Brian is great. The stones were great with Brian. They were great without him.
They weren’t grown men tho
We are trying to set the record straight,Tim. The Stones were successful in their first eight years in spite of Jones' presence, not because of his contributions. I would not be commenting here at all but for all the praise gushed here onto the most expendable member of the early Stones.
After Jones was canned the band got bigger and better than they had ever been, immediately.
That tells a lot.
NO JONES...BETTER STONES...
@@williardbillmore5713 stop hating
@@jsmith469 I don't hate Brian Jones In fact I feel sorry for what happened to him. I do however hate it when 53 years after the fact people who were not even around then bestow accolades on Brian posthumously that he never deserved or earned in life. He just wasn't very talented. He enjoyed a very good paycheck on the backs of other more talented people in the band who did all the writing and made all the hits. Jones was a leech.
No Stones without JONES
And to think, all that the band had to offer afterwards was 'Let it Bleed', 'Sticky Fingers' and 'Exile on Main Street'.
Post Beggar's Banquet Jones was a burnt out shell and a passenger.
But his songs that he played on were the classic ones that got them on the road to riches.@@yassassin6425
Correct, by far the classic Stones songs are from the 60s. @@kkooll1
He never got writing credit for this
I think that's also Brian playing the piano
Ah, c'mon. Ian Stewart has a hard enough time getting credit for his work as it is.
Ian Stewart was the Stone's tour manager and he also played all the keyboard parts for the band from 1961 to 1985
@@williardbillmore5713 I love Stew but The Stones used 4 or 5 other keyboard players in those years, too. Jack Nitzsche, Nicky Hopkins, Billy Preston, Ian MacLagan among them.
@@falcon5467 The Stones understood that there were two tiers of on stage performers and the Stones were known primarily as a guitar band. Pianists were seen as utility infielders were seen on baseball teams. Important to have for results, but not really the stars of the game....
They managed to always perform on stage and in the studio with some of the best piano players in the business, and none of the fans saw any of them as being members of the band.The same could be said of the many saxophone players who had solo parts on many of the Stones most famous recordings and were never recognized as being a real part of the band.
@@williardbillmore5713 I like to think that Keith and Mick both got their appreciation of piano accompaniment in rock 'n roll from listening to Chuck Berry songs that featured the great Johnnie Johnson on piano.
As with so many songs, all Brian is playing for the entire song is Bill's bass part a couple of octaves higher in unison with him.
The bass part was mirrored and copied so much in this song Keith had to overdub a fuzz bass part during the coda to keep it from sounding hackneyed and over repetitious. Jones had no imagination and could never vary or improvise anything.
He was a copyist automaton.
Ever notice that the parts that Keith gave to Brian to play were always repetitive and super simple. That's what you have to do with a guy who was always as high as he could get on any given day. Musically the band was carried by Keith. He was and remains the genius and musical director of the group.
Why are you making the same negative comments on multiple Stones songs about Brian, you got a problem?. The Stones are a band and not session musicians - Brian was not 'given' parts to play, he came up with what he thought the song needed, eg Keith and Mick did not write a Marimba part for him to play. Keith gets and deserves plenty of credit as he is a legend, recognising what Brian did in his prime does not lessen that
@@DavidGigg Yeah I got a problem with all these people so quick to praise the dead guy as a genius all these years later. The Stones never had a shortage of geniuses but Jones was never one of them. He played what he was told to play when he was straight enough to perform.
He was a horrible person who no one, who knew him, liked. Make no mistake the Stones were never a democracy and Richards has always been the co-musical director along with Jagger. That particular marimba part was most likely written and played for the recording by Ian Stewart, the Stone's piano player and tour manager from 1961 to 1985 or as I have always suspected a copying of Bill Wyman's bass line from the intro of the song
Jagger and Richards were always the heart and soul of the Stones. Jones was the window dressing until he was too high, too full of himself and too cantankerous to contribute artistically anymore. They became a better band in Jones' absence.Jones selfishly very nearly destroyed the greatest pure rock band in the world. That is the "problem" I have with people posthumously lavishing praise on him.
@@williardbillmore5713 Well, we 100% know for sure that Ian Stewart did not write and play that marimba part.
Jagger and Richards absolutely did become the heart and soul of the Stones - no argument there. But Brian recruited them to his band at the start.
@@DavidGigg The only other hit the Stones had that featured a marimba like instrument was Monkey Man Released well after Jones' death. Guess who was still their piano player at that time? ...Ian Stewart...and guess who is credited with playing vibraphone on THAT song?
Bill Wyman, Ha ha ha ha ha
Ian never took credit as a band member...
Who could possibly imagine that if Keith had died instead of Brian in 1969 that the Stones could continue on with hundreds of hit songs for another 53 years?
Get real...Jones was no writer. He was an egotistical druggie who tagged along on Richards' and Jagger's genius for eight years when he then selfishly almost broke up the band before he was fired and overdosed.
Now 53 years later everyone is gushing how Brian Jones was the genius behind the success of the Stones.
What bullcrap.
Ron Wood has been a guitar player in the Stones almost six times longer than Jones was... Joining the band in 1975... 47 years ago!
No Jones no Stones-he was an immense talent shut out by Jagger/Richards and given no writing credits or encouragement-rIpped off like Mick Taylor was who left rather than put up with their greed. A money making machine well past its sell by date and churning out the same stuff decade after decade-why haven't they died of boredom!!
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