Toilet Tank Bolts Leaking - How To Cut Off The Bolts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- In this Toilet Tank Bolts Leaking video, Bob explains the methods of cutting off the bolts that hold the toilet tank onto the toilet bowl.
If you have experience with power tools a SawZall can get the job done quickly. If not, better be safe than sorry and use the tried and true hacksaw blade method!
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THANK YOU for this video! I love that there were no ads, and everything was described and shown well. Well done! Your advice helped me, a total plumbing novice, to cut a rusted toilet tank bowl, and thus finish changing out all the inside tank parts all on my own. I was able to use a regular hacksaw, and it took me about 45 minutes. My angle was not great, plus I'm not super strong, so it probably wouldn't take others so long. Thanks again!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for checking out the video!!
Gotta love a video made by an OBVIOUS professional. I'll probably never need plumbing tips again but I'm subscribing just to support the channel and out of respect for this guy. Thanks Bob.
Thank You, Rob! much appreciated. Regards, Bob.
Thanks for posting. Installing a toilet. ..well done!
Thanks for watching!
Watching this video is a convincing argument for hiring a plumber.
I know that isn't the goal of the video. Great job. Just looks like a Royal PITA ;)
Thanks for the view. It is a royal PITA!
Finally!
A how-to video done by someone with some professionalism!
I was about to jump off a building going thru countless lame-brain videos by kids who have no clue how to make a video that’s watchable.
Thank you for “getting it.”
I appreciate it, thanks very much. Regards, Bob.
Thank you sir. Helped me resolved my issue in 20 minutes, which included a 15 minute trip to Lowe's.
Glad it helped
Thanks, went to Lowe's and bought a hand hacksaw. It took a little effort, but it did the trick. After looking at the wing nuts on the screws I dont think all the rust penetrant in the world would have helped me.
Finally an honest youtube video. Sometimes it sucks but just have to manhandle some things, suck it up and just do it. I've said a for a long time, plumbers and masons are the 2 trades that aren't just worth their money but probably underpaid. Electrician by trade and you can sometimes jargon your way up. Plumbing and concrete, no faking being in a hole.
Great video. I don’t have much room to work. I didn’t use my sawsall because was afraid to crack something.
You helped us to get our neighbor to fix the leaking toilet tank we were having problems with because of you showing this video. Question: How do we keep the tank from being loose? It jiggles a bit. We are worried about breaking the toilet tank, if, we try to tighten the bolts more.
Very helpful video Bob. I had no room to use hacksaw or cutting wheel. What I ended up doing is carefully marking the center of the brass bolt's head, started with a 1/8 inch pilot hole from the top and finally used 3/8 inch drill to separate the bolt from its head. Thanks again for the video. God Bless. Caution: Be very careful and run your drill on the slowest speed towards the end.
That's a great idea!
I did this with resulting china damage around the hole about 1/32" deep. Silicone-filled the gap under rubber washer. Did not think a hack would be safe, but I'll do that next time.
Totally agree on galvanic matching hardware. PLUS stainless and galvy nuts are harder to cut when they glue themselves on by electro-corrosive-magic. I am PISSED at the kits I have bought. The first was plated, and I noticed too late, so they went in. A few years later, and they literally corroded near through at the seal itself!
With all the plumbing I have done I have never been so frustrated as trying to get the last bolt out. Thank you for telling it like it is.time to grab my big girl panties and my hacksaw and go to work!!
Update: it took me 13 minutes to saw through it. I had been struggling for a couple of hours prior to this. Thank you so much!
Thank you Bob.
Your advice on sawing have helped us in the end. Thank you!
Glad to help
This video made the difference between having a working toilet in the evening instead of the next day.
You feel my pain. I tried the hacksaw method, but couldn’t tell if I was actually making progress. Then tried the sawzall, read that the blade should have 8 teeth per inch, had a nightmare trying to get that blade. And I just couldn’t get in there properly. (In the meantime I dropped that heavy sawzall on my head. Oof, that hurt.) Spent hours on this bolt.
At my wits end. I Finally called in a pal, he used vise grip on bolt head and pliers underneath and broke the bolt in about 60 seconds. The relief! Even if I had tried that, I might not have been strong enough to break it.
You have multiple videos about removing rusted toilet bolts, but you demonstrate on brand new hardware that isn't even attached. Show us on rusty bolts, still on the tank while it's still attached to the bowl
Same technique, with the exception of the room you have to work in you'll get exactly the same results.
Ughhhh....started off with the screwdriver & wrench then found your video. Thank you! Used a hacksaw to cut off 3 bolts. Took me 2 hours, lots of sweating, grunting & twisting my neck & shoulders! Next time I will call a plumber! Thanks again!
Very professional and easy to understand DYI video. Thanks!
I cut it with a Dremel, using a large diameter cutoff wheel, at medium speed.
I was ready to click thumbs up after your opening remark.
Thank you for giving voice to our pain and for this most needed and appreciated help! :)
Thank you for your support! Regards, Bob.
Thanks goodness for these videos because my good for nothing alcoholic womanizing absent father didn’t teach me shit
You're welcome and thanks for taking the time to watch. Bob.
Hey thanks for this. How long would it take to cut a toilet tank bolt manually?
And it's 24-teeth per inch, correct? What about the length, how long should it?
How long can vary depending on the situation and the one doing the cutting. 10-15 minutes slow and steady, I use 24 teeth per inch X 12" blades by lennox.
I thank you this video helped me out tremendously. it didn't take long to saw the bolt underneath the tank.
You’re welcome, glad to help! Regards, Bob.
same here. thanks Bob!
Helpful. Thanks Bob.
Very welcome, thanks for the visit!
the best opening after all the frustration
So frustrating, isn't it??
Bob, I use a Dremel with a fiberglass cut off wheel. works best and very fast.
Works great as well!
That is what I’m fixing to do. Glad I got a Dremel now.
Great video!
A lot of information. Now I understand why the bolts rust the way they do. Also. I know know what replacement kits to purchase. Thank you very much!
I have replaced entire toilets because of how difficult it was to remove the tank bolts. It was easier to replace the entire toilet and tank.
Thanks again!!
You're welcome!
Excellent. Wish i saw yesterday.
Thanks for this video. Used the hand saw method. Worked but was very difficult. Not much room to work with and had about 5 notches about halfway through before i managed go cut all the way through one.
It’s difficult in some cases, but there is no way around it unless you want to remove the bowl. Separates the men from the boys👍 Regards, Bob
Nice video , Your right it ain't gonna be fun but you gotta do it Great tips Thanks
Thanks for this video man. You are my first ever subscribe. Your comment right at the very beginning made me laugh out loud 😂
I was so mad taking out the bolt I just took a hammer 🔨 and broke the whole tank.
Im close to doing that… too bad I’m renting this place
Flush valve gasket… you mentioned-do you replace that too if you are taking the tank off anyway because the bolts need replacing? The Clorox tablets destroyed mine; I love them but did not understand they would cause my bolts inside the tank to rust. I don’t have a leak yet but noticed they are destroyed and chunks of rust are in the bottom of my tank.😢
Once I remove the tank, I replace all the rubber components.
I'm under the impression that hacking them off is the SOP (standard operating procedure) I just did the repair and the handle hack saw took less than 30 seconds per bolt. Now that's fast...
Very helpful. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful! 👍
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Well , thank you for that! I try my best!
I used an oscillating tool with metal blade to cut a stubborn bolt
That'll do it! Excellent, regards. Bob
I have a jigsaw. Is there some reason I would not want to use a jigsaw? Are jigsaw blades too short?
Thank you.
Exactly, much to short unless you can find a super long one. Also a jigsaw may be a little too bulky to position correctly.
My hacksaw blade is too weak to cut the brass bolts!
Edit: I was just being a wimp. I had to really give 'er and just keep at it, even when no new shavings appeared to be coming out.
Bob what is your sequence for installing new bolts. It's been debated a lot. Rubber washer tank bolt with no nut/washer under the tank? Some plumbers dont like installing bolt/washer under the tank because it leaves them with little room if they have to cut tank bolts I. the future .
The two most popular brands I worked on coming up were Gerber which used two nuts and American Standard which used one nut. My preference is two , one for the tank and one for the bowl but truth be told most modern toilets are using the single bolt method. Can’t argue that a one piece solves that problem. Appreciate you checking out the video! Bob.
Day 3 trying to get one bolt off. It would be easier to by a whole new one.
This is why I like one piece toilets
Im going through this for the second time! I am killing my self sweating my balls off. Thank god I have a dremmel tool this time. I am going to try the hacksaw too now. Thanks!
I'm in the middle of having to do this. The toilet I am dealing with has 3 bolts. Tried the electric hacksaw.. but not enough room to operate it safely.
Will definitely need to get a handle like you demonstrated
Three bolts! Kohler toilet?
@@BobsPlumbingVideos I believe so.
@@BobsPlumbingVideos I'll pry end up getting a Dremel to remove the bolts. The toilet is located in a small half bathroom. Super cramped space.
Thanks for posting this video. It prevented me from contacting a plumber. I have the parts. This gives me an excuse to buy a Dremel tool set. I've been wanting one for a long time.
Do you have to use a washer and gasket on both sides of the tank like you did? I redid my toilet and did not have the gasket, washer, or nut under the tank. I installed everything back the way it was, Bolt, washer, rubber washer, place the tank on the toilet then washer and nut. Do you have to use a brass bolt washer and nut? My kit was all galvanized steel.
I like to use it on both sides, but you can get away with using it inside only. Certain manufacturers only supply gaskets for the inside of the tank.
@@BobsPlumbingVideos Thank you, The kit I bought had 4 gaskets, 4 washers, and 4 nuts. I have two washers and gaskets in the tank and 2 washers and nuts under the toilet. The instructions said to omit the under-the-tank if you have a Kohler toilet. But I have no idea what brand I have. Ok never mind got my answer, seems my bolts are dripping. Ok, I am going to fix it right now.
How do you drain the tank?
Turn off the water, drain, I use a siphon pump (amzn.to/484MHpr) You can use a turkey baster and finish with a sponge.
The one that worked for me was the wing nut rusted around the threads. I sprayed a deep penetrating WD-40. I was supposed to wait over night. I couldn't use my reciprocating saw. I hadn't a new bolt. The handyman had a tool shoved between the tank and the wing nut bolt. I pulled it out, immediately water started dripping out. I turned the water off, I put towels down to catch the dripping water till I felt like messing with it. Everything I do fights me. A monkey wrench always gets thrown in. Four soaking wet towels later I had to get her done. Of course it never can be easy. it would be rusted and the bolt inside the tank was a flat head bolt. So a million years later, I was soaking wet from sweat. I couldn't find my vise grips, I had to fight ten different kinds of pliers, What I did was grabbed the threaded part of the bolt with regular pliers just under the wing nut. I grab the wing nut with another set of pliers. It wasn't easy, but eventually I got the wing nut lose. I was doing it blind. I couldn't tell if the end of the bolt was just spinning around where I was holding it with some pliers. Thank God I finally got it tightening. It only took about four hours. If I'd had my vise grips it would have taken only a couple hours. LoL. So you grab the threaded bolt that is under the wing nut. Then you grab the wing nut and begin tightening. Easy Peasy. 😂
What about an oscillating multi tool?
If you can fit it in their, works like a charm. Those tools did not exist back in the day!
Ty
Well, then how do you get the top of the bolt out of the tank?
When you get the tank off, cut between the nut and washerand the bolt will off.
Man I been there a thousand times. Best way I found is useing rounded bolt removers. But when all else fails go to the cordless hacksaw.
My brother took the toilet apart and put it back together that nut you see in the middle was on the bottom there was no nut in the middle it had been leaking it wasn't until I watched your video that I seen the nut goes in the middle and the wing nut goes on the bottom but I don't have the wing nuts so now I gotta go out and buy some wing nuts
Cool, hope this helped you. Thanks for stopping by. Regards, Bob
I cannot reach the screws my toilet bowl covers them… how would you remove them in this case?
I personally use a Sawzall with a 12" fine tooth blade and cut them off. I DO NOT recommend you do this unless you know what you're doing. If you don't want to hire a pro, remove the toilet make the repair and re-set the tank and bowl.
Hey Great Video I hope you see this. my problem is I still one bolt where the water is coming out. what should I do. thanks
Remove it, place plumbers putty on the bottom of the rubber gasket and re-install it. Should do the trick! Check out this video...th-cam.com/video/7RMEfUEoV7k/w-d-xo.html. Forward to about two minutes.
Thank you I'm just seeing this I will try. Thanks
Yeah, but in the pictured toilet, you cut the bolt, but that only releases it from the toilet. You still will not have removed the rusted (not nice and shiny) bolt from the tank.
I've got just a blob o' rust inside and a very rusted, leaking bolt and nut outside the tank.
Seems to me I'll have to drill the bolt out from inside the tank.
You can use this technique to remove the bolt from the tank - th-cam.com/video/NY8AFWetvog/w-d-xo.html. Regards, Bob.
Can you cut a nut with a multi tool?
Hi Bob I have a questions. 1) can you use pipe dope on the bolt threads. 2) do you think it's a good idea to use a washer with the rubber gasket inside the toilet tank. Thanks Bob
Always a rubber gasket inside the tank. Some companies (Gerber) use a gasket inside and on the bottom. Most modern toilets use a gasket on the inside only. Water proof silicone grease, not pipe dope on the bolts.
@@BobsPlumbingVideos - regarding a metal washer in the tank (part of the original question you missed the first time), my understanding is to never do that regardless of what the instructions in the kit says. What do you think?
No problem for me either using my Dremel
Show the work how did you cut
I was able to remove the wing nuts and remove the tank. My frozen nut is the one that touches the tank (no gasket between it and the tank like yours has). I cannot get a saw blade between the nut and the tank. WD-40 helped with one bolt, but the other bolt is still stuck. I used gigantic locking pliers to hold the bolt still while my wife tried turning the bolt with the open-end wrench, but the screw still turns with the nut. What's next?
Use this technique to cut split the bolt th-cam.com/video/NY8AFWetvog/w-d-xo.html
The bolts get rusty because all the pee pee that splashes all over.
I puts a collection pan there, collect the urine, and then throw it on my neighbors front porch. I hate them.
The bolts I'm having problems with are the bolts that secure the toilets to the floor. Nuts rusted to the floor bolts, except the floor bolt turns with the nut and there is no way to secure the floor bolt because the floor is a concrete slab--no way to get underneath it. I've tried Liquid Wrench, oil. tried sawing a horizontal screw divot into the top and using a screwdriver to keep the bolt secure while attempting to turn the nut. Nothing. Any ideas? Anyone,,,,anyone....,Buehler?
Try This! - th-cam.com/video/NY8AFWetvog/w-d-xo.html
They should all be stainless.
Agreed!
thank you
You're welcome!
The title is tank bolts leaking, not how to take the old tank off. misleading. I just put new bolts in and one is oozing water, I have tightened it as far as I think I can, it is sitting firmly. What I need to know is? Should all the tightening be done from the bottom, not the screw slot? And should I take it off and try again reversing the rubber washers, just using the wrench at the bottom! I used an American Standard tank set, it only had two nuts, not four. The toilet is by the same company, the replacement tank came with thicker bolts, not the 1/4 that the set came with, but the bolts did not fit.
Look at this video - th-cam.com/video/7RMEfUEoV7k/w-d-xo.html. American Standard has two nuts, two washers. All the tightening is performed from the bottom. Don't leave out the plumbers putty or you'll be doing it twice.
The tank bolts are generally 5/16", but if they're 1/4" so be it. two bolts followed by two washers followed by a small ribbon of plumbers putty (insurance) thru the tank, thru the bowl. Two brass washers, two brass nuts , all tightening if from the bottom NOT by turning the bolts from inside the tank.
Also check this video th-cam.com/video/7RMEfUEoV7k/w-d-xo.html. Just eliminate the extra two bolts and washers.
@@BobsPlumbingVideos I had left a small amount of water in the tank last night, to see if the washer was dry. Then I gave it a cautious 1/4 turn. Put on the water, so far so good. But I did watch the putty video, I would have done that, but the instructions on the "Fluidmaster" complete repair kit, have a big red circle with a slash through it saying Do Not Use Putty. The American standard which was the 1/4 bolt set, was sent because the seller of the tank said the bolts should have been smaller and sent the AM ST 170C set from Amazon. I just checked, a really slow leak, could not see it like before oozing out of the easy to see side. the hard to see side I pushed some Toilet paper back under there and it was damp. I used the wrench and the nuts easily turned a turn and a half, maybe the gasket settled? But I am back to awaiting developments. Thanks for answering. Oh, the Fulidmaster came with a red gasket, the AM St with a black gasket, is there an important difference. I used the black one when I used the AM ST bolts.
@@BobsPlumbingVideos I did watch this, if I end up using the putty will it work without the washer under the tank? The tops of the 1/4 bolts do not have threads anyway and no way to secure it. Gorilla duct tape? lol I am definitely an Amateur, but I did do the whole kitchen sink with two drains by myself and Utube!
Pro Tip: use High Speed Steel Size 24 teeth, material for cutting off old rusted bolt in mins.
Why put a nut between the toilet bowl and the reservoir
Gerber toilet tanks always had two nuts on their close coupled toilet tanks. Not so much in today’s world!
@@BobsPlumbingVideos Thanks buddy.
Trying to cut off the bolts to fix the center drain in the tank is not worth the time. If you replace the center drain, the flapper and the water inlet just to stop a leak is nuts if the toilet is over 10 years old. Better to but a brand new toilet with 2 options for flushing(pee or poo) and be done. Saves any headaches for the next 10 to 20 years. I'm so tired of explaining this to property managers I've given up! I warn them changing the flapper will reduce the leak but it will still leak! And it does. Trying to hack saw the bolts to the tank in such a tiny space is time consuming and they think it's an easy job. Not one they are willing to do to reduce their 1k a month new water bill!!!!! Just put a new toilet in and save the scraped knuckles, bruised shoulders and crazy contortion in a small space. Being cheap cost more in the long run and I've proven that to them many times but they prefer cheap for now n deal with it again later. Nice you showed a newer style tank but the ones that have issues are older design with no space between the tank frame. Trust me After 15 years I know!
I agree, in todays world better to replace than try to repair a relic. On the other hand, for those who can't afford to call in a plumber, this is how the process goes.
A drimel tool.
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I would cut them before I installed them. That weould be more like using your brain.
12 minutes and 34 seconds of blah blah blah 5 seconds of actually DOING it. Still don't know about how long it takes to cut the bolt since I can't really see my cutting progress between the tank and the bowl because he didn't even finish the job. This video was almost useless.
It takes as long as it takes, and you could always fast forward the video. But I think you would be better served to call in a pro! You'll crack the tank in a heartbeat if your sloppy with this repair.
The guy Talks too much ,typicle Yankee
Too much talking
Tune Out!