I was just thinking about this, this morning…I used to be blinded by their teaching and it’s funny how I can now recognize it so easily. Than you Jesus 🙌🏼
I also used to be blind to a lot of things and have had my eyes and ears opened... So to speak. If you go to God and ask for the spirit to understand in the name of Jesus... How much of it will he give? The answer is as much as you are willing to receive. The holy Spirit isn't there to teach you what you want to hear but what you need to hear in order to be corrected in your heart and mind.... Usually that is the opposite of what you want to hear.... If the spirit in you is teaching you how powerful you are and how you are in control, that it's you that changes you, etc. ummm you should definitely discern the spirit that is guiding you because you are not God... And you shouldn't want to be either, just saying.
"Vending machine theology" and "Me-ology" are two of my new favorite phrases. I had heard this approach described as "treating God like a sky Santa" but that's even more precise and powerful. And I LOVE the Scripture citations that you have started including on the screen. Preach, girl, you've got a gift!
Good point. I think one problem within the more evangelical Churches is their denigration of theology. As Christians, lets take God's revelation on faith. However, the thought that you don't need thought makes people vulnerable to all kinds of teaching: "If it feel good and there are enough scriptures supporting it then it must be true". The fact is, unthoughtful reading of the bible can lead to all kinds of cultish and harmful doctrines. Revelation is not so obvious that you can read the bible like a simple instruction manual. This is why we have teachers, this is why we are told to use discernment, to test, to have wisdom, etc. Some within evangelicalism think this all means reading your bible more. Committed Bible reading Christians have been led into all sorts of crazy things. This is the value of theology. It's not about vain intellectual glory (although it can become that). It's about using the faculties God gave you so you can better understand the message. It enriches faith rather than replaces it.
God keep leaving me speechless 😶 I needed this like a glass of water in the dessert. I can't believe that this video was just uploaded an hour ago. God is good all the time! 🙏🙏🙏 He is still working even when we set him aside to focus on our problems and whine which I'm convicted of. I don't deserve you Lord, but you're so good natured and merciful.
Early in my Christian walk, while dealing with medical issues that still continue today, I was crying out to God in prayer. I asked Him why He wouldn’t heal me. I heard His still small voice in my spirit asking me, “If I never heal you on earth, will you still love Me? Will you still serve Me? That was all I needed to hear to accept God’s will. I’ve learned so much along the way. I do want to point out that I was going to a church at that time. I asked for prayer on endurance bc I was in a lot of physical pain. I was asked by the elder if I believed God could heal me. He went on to tell me not to acknowledge any physical pain and just claim that I was healed. So many well-intentioned Christians have approached me the same way over the years. I went to God in prayer, asking Him how to respond. He told me to tell them that “my times are in His hands.” Later on, while reading Ps. 31:14-15 I came across those same words. It’s been freeing to give God control over my life. Thank you for speaking on such an important topic. You nailed the truth!! God bless you.
@@hiddeninjesus4819 Nice to meet you. The verse you mentioned about His stripes…you are using it out of context. You are cherry picking one verse instead of looking at it as a whole. 1 Peter 2:24-25 says, “who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness - by whose stripes you were healed. For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.” Nowhere in that passage does it indicate physical healing and that’s because that entire passage has to do with being saved from our sins (spiritual). I wish you well. May God bless you.
@@hiddeninjesus4819 I believe with all my being that God can heal me. All He has to do is say the word, and it’s done. Like Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, even though I know my God is able to heal me, if He doesn’t while I’m on earth, I will still only serve Him. And like the example of my Lord and Savior, who prayed for His Father to remove the cup that was to come, He also prayed that the Father’s will would be done and not His. That’s been my prayer - for God to heal me physically yet not my will but His will be done. God doesn’t promise to physically heal every one of His children on earth, and I eagerly look forward to the promise of eternity where all suffering shall cease. I feel sadness that you’re having such a difficult time grasping this. Just know that I’m blessed. Praying God’s blessings on you and yours.
@@hiddeninjesus4819 Sorry my english is not good. I agree with what you said. You're wisdom edify me and God is glorified. I'm the living testimony of how God work when faith works. God would speak to me through the dreams concerning my difficulties i would be facing and consistently i was dealing with the problems I didn't had boldness to ask God so i try to prayed like Jesus "Let your will be done and not mine" 😂 but i was exhausted trying, dealing. Long story short, now i prayed away by faith and if God allow, it allows for good he will give me the grace to deal with, I ask boldly knowing he is for me. All my life trying in accept every difficulties that comes my way to please God was a lie, it was my PRIDE and my lack of Faith. God truly works where the faith activate.
May God the most kind give you health! May pain be your past! In the bible there is this story of a woman who had been suffering for 12 years and lost all what she had. Her strong faith allowed her to heal herself touching Christ's cloth while he was walking among a crowd. May God fill you with such grace of faith. God bless you abundantly!
I always find prosperity gospel stuff so difficult as it can easily sneak in to our way of thinking! Love the 'me-ology' name, that's a brilliant way of describing it!!
God is not a vending machine! I've been saying this for years!. The Lord answers all prayers, but sometimes the answer is "No!" Who are we to demand God to give us what we want?
@@HowtoFaithALife #Question... Can you tell me if you were recommending the book: Becoming free indeed, by Jinger Duggar Vuolo or not? I have a list of books you recommend and want to know if I should add this one :) I loved all the scripture in this video :)
I’m avidly opposed to heresy hunting and blasting preachers online and blah blah blah…I see value in some things Kenneth Hagan has done / taught / whatever…but I also see the flags. Anyway. I typically completely avoid videos (& even people in general) that harp on or heavily criticize other Christians. I think it’s SUPER dangerous territory. Anyway…I almost didn’t watch this video from you, because I’m new to your channel (LOVE it, btw) & I expected more of the same. Totallly came into this with my guard up & ready to click to a different video. But let me just say…this is THE BEST commentary on such things that I’ve ever heard. That is all. Thank you for the approach you took with this. This is what we need more of.
Certain things may be off regarding a lot of teaching with the prosperity gospel, but it is true. God prospers us, especially when we live according to his will. All throughout the word we see God blessing his people who obeyed him. Paul says in Romans 8:28 that all things work for good to those who love God and are called, and in 2Corinthiajs 2:14 about always triumphing in Christ. Jesus said in Mathew 6 that if you seek first the kingdom, then your needs will be added to you. So all of that is being in prosperity. Being prosperous doesn’t mean you won’t go through things or suffer, but you know that God will help you through your sufferings and turn and work everything for good.
@@jean-pierreetdaniellegoyet4764 The different amounts Jesus said was in regards to their own ability, it’s not God saying I’m gonna give one this amount just because I want to, it’s based on the person and what God knows they can handle. Like a person strong in faith towards God can receive more from him because of that , rather than someone who lacks it. It’s like James saying a double minded person won’t receive anything from God, so a person who isn’t double minded will receive from God because they have full trust in him.
@@marktravis5162 talents were a currency. O agree that it’s also a metaphor for giftings/abilities but in the parabole it was the master who gave the talents and the master can be interpreted as God. Therefore God will give what he wants to whom He wants and how He wants. He is sovereign.
Did you read up on how a lot of apostles ended up? Prosperity gospel totally ignores that Paul was writing a bunch of his stuff from Jail, Jail that the holy spirit mentioned to him before... He didn't go, "get there behind me Satan,, God wants the best for us at all times). Timothy is written whilst he was in jail, before his execution, which he mentions. Paul says he's had seasons of little and seasons of plenty, he wouldn't he say being right with God means your life always looks good, your health is amazing and so on. Timothy has frequent illnesses, Paul told him to drink wine, and didn't tell him to claim, name and demand his health and wealth because that's what God wants. There's a point where prosperity gospel just becomes insensitive and souless, we start telling the poor, the ill and the down trodden that they are where they are because that want to be there, because they're not demanding their healing, they're not having enough faith. They've all become Job's friends, they've become Hymenaeus and Philetus who claimed resurrection had already happened, meaning the promises like incorruptible bodies that will see no illnesses (many claims the prosperity only theology makes) are already here, DESTROYING the faith of some. Paul says that.
Been struggling with this recently. My emotions have been frustrated with God like "why are these things happening in my life?" But when I feel that way I've been trying to remind myself "God owes you nothing, life isn't promised to be easy just because I follow him, etc." But every time the feelings take over my thoughts it's such a struggle.
Oh my…I remember that time I realized that God is good even if I don’t get what I want (He gives me what I need) and I have to constantly read His Word to remind me to deny myself lest I be ungrateful. God is good. Periodt.
Amen! Thank you! More messages like this need to be said. When I surrendered all my works “declaring” “affirmations” “thinking positively” etc I began to seek God with all my heart in my Bible, then it became all about Him and His will for my life. I no longer do things to earn blessing or Gods love. Now I have a true relationship with Him! Walking in sanctification and learning all about His ways. I didn’t realize how much I made the Bible about me and centered around me. It was definitely not about Him. None of these preachers share the true gospel… that we are sinners in need of a savior. Jesus didn’t come here to bring us wealth and abundance… but eternal life! All the pastors I followed for a long time never preached this. Instead I got a motivational speech that made me feel good about myself, nothing saying I need to turn away from my sin.
We moved 6 months ago. something wasn't right. God showed us clear as day. We literally prayed about the church we are going to because we both felt something wasn't right. On Sunday the church one of the leaders tithe 4,000 counted the while amount right in front of the congregation believing for ten fold . Not right at all 😮 felted disgusted and concerned for his heart something is not right him . Plus the Pastor allowing it. I wasn't there I told my husband he should've walked out. God showed us clear as day. God been giving us red flags that was last straw I started digging into the church. God showed that he is on the board word of faith ministries with Dr Fredrick KC Prince. Long story short we are not going to be involved in posterity gospel. I know it was the Lord showing us this not the church for us.
Amen!! It’s all about God! It’s all about Jesus! I’ve been missing your longer videos. I really like the shorts! But I really like getting more information from your longer videos, as well. They’re so encouraging. Thank you!
Dang woman, you did it again! I keep watching your videos and talking back to you about all of the things I do/say that you're talking about. The Duggars - me too! lol, I grew up thinking so much of them because what I saw was people who loved God, had children because they refused to practice any sort of birth control (lol, I remember an interview once where Michelle said that every time Jim Bob laid his pants on the bed she got pregnant). I knew they didn't have debt and that they paid for everything they had, outside of any donations that may have been given to them. I've heard stuff coming out about the family over the last decade-ish but I haven't followed up with any of it and couldn't tell you if any, or all, of it is true. I grew up in Mesquite, probably not much older than you. This past Sunday night I rode to church with a neighbor because I didn't feel good and didn't feel like driving. I've been to that church multiple times and, other than it just not fitting, I couldn't really tell you why. Until Sunday. They said tonight's bible study we're going to watch a short video from "Brother Kenneth Copeland" and my alarm bells went off. I quietly excused myself to my neighbors and went and sat in the car until church was dismissed. Now I know why my spirit just wasn't at ease in that church but I couldn't have pointed to any one sermon they gave that would indicate it wasn't biblical. I won't be back and I'm definitely going to pay closer attention going forward! So, again, I'm nodding and agreeing with you throughout your videos. I wish I knew you because I adore the heck out of you!
I watched your video twice. I am having a hard time understanding your message. Gothard was promoting strict legalism. That is similar to what I encountered attending a strict Fundamentalist Baptist School. However my dad listened to the Copeland's, Robert Tilton, and a few others who preached the "prosperity" gospel. I do believe the Copeland's are sincere. After hurricane Katrina their ministry was quietly sending funds straight to non profits to help people. Many of the other "ministries" only sent help if they could get publicity out of it. In my view, there are many differences between the two. Legalism does teach that God blesses if you follow a very strict set of rules. Also it is taught that if you break any of those rules you loose your salvation. The rules were endless. Prosperity gospel at the extreme teaches that you just name it and claim it and sow a seed with faith God will give you whatever you want. I heard very little about obedience and repentance. Here is what I believe. We need the law to show us that we are sinners desperately in need of Jesus. His death on the cross was the final payment for our sins. We do need to confess when we have failed. It keeps our hearts pure and holy. I also believe that it is okay to ask God for things you want. It doesn't mean you will get them. But you also need to be asking Him to align your heart, will, and desires with His. As you allow the Holy Spirit to do the work in you, the more you will want Him and to further His kingdom here on earth.
I will say that I have never watch the duggars show and only am vaguely aware of it because of media. I have no idea what their biblical beliefs were. My understanding of the prosperity teaching has nothing to with our works and everything about the cross. Because of Jesus we no longer live under the curse of the law but share in the blessings of Abraham. Jesus himself said the father in heaven knows how to give his children good gifts (I am paraphrasing) The father in Heaven knows what we need and will provide for us. I do believe in paying tithes because it is important that we support the spread of the gospel and lets face it without money it is more difficult to do that. The one scripture in the Bible (that I am aware of) where God actually says to test him has to do with paying tithes. To me, that is my understanding of the prosperity teaching, pay tithes and be blessed but don’t pay the tithes just for the blessing. Pay the tithes to support the sharing of what Jesus has done for us and God will bless you for it. (Hopefully that makes sense) I know the Copelands do teach on prosperity but that is not the only topic they teach on. One of my favorite series are some videos teaching on the last super that I found to be very helpful when understanding the importance of the last supper, the new covenant and the importance for us to take communion. When you take communion it is all about the Cross, it is remembering what Jesus has done for us and the new covenant that we have with God.
Right on! The world is all about me, self what it wants. We're to be separate from the world. All about what God wants and how he wants to use me for his plan. Deny self and draw closer to Him. Thanks for sharing
Yes I’ve heard that before and I love that scenario. God is not a gum ball machine. You don’t just say little wimpy prayers. God I’ll do this if you do that amen. It is a relationship! Spend time in the word and spend time in prayer 🙏🏼 😊
I love this, "God never asked us to be Him" It is so powerful regarding our salvation. We can never 'work' ourselves up to a status of being 'holy' like God!
I absolutely LOVED this video! You always point out the false doctrine and teaching by certain pastors in such a loving way. My only thing that you said that you lost me on was when you were talking about Jinger’s book and about Gothard’s teachings (which I’m completely against his teachings) but you said “…while it’s good to dress modestly, those aren’t ultimate rules that we should add to the Bible.” But dressing modestly is in fact a biblical command given to us by God through Paul. It doesn’t say women must wear skirts only, I believe that’s based off of a woman’s personal conviction that’s strictly between her and the Lord, but modesty is in fact a “rule” that’s already in scripture. I do believe that modesty is most importantly a heart issue that lies in the representation of our works and lifestyle, but also in how we dress as well. I hope all that made sense! I do want to add that I don’t believe that if you dress modestly then you’ll get whatever you pray for from that. That “vending machine” theology (I’m totally going to be using that term from now on btw!😂) isn’t truth. It’s just a part of living a holy lifestyle and being set apart from the world as a follower of Christ!🤍
this is all we can say unto those false teachers of prosperity gospel "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves"
Sister, I appreciate you putting this out. As someone who used to be in business with a lot of the headliner prosperity preachers, I see too much of this, as though the same message becomes okay if it's your local pastor instead of a megachurch TV preacher. Thank you for your work.
A month ago i watched "Christ Alone The American Gospel" an it blew my mind, i thought i could tell the difference between prosperity gospel an boy i was SO WRONG. Being a baby christian that's all I'd hear in any churches i went to but then i started getting hungry for more God centered an saw my step dad watching Voddie Baucham an i loved it but i still wasn't understanding what it meant to live a prosperous life, i was heavily rooted in new ageism for a while an although God removed many things from my life the "law of attraction mind set" has ultimately been very difficult to let go of but since that movie i now understand the true fullness of God an to suffer for him in any account's its such great joy 😊❤
I love your teaching! I really felt this one! Faith, please, with so much love, please sloooow down a bit. Thank you for your work and videos! You're a true blessing. ❤️
Vending machine theology & meology! I love these terms! Prosperity Preachers are everywhere! Earlier I watched a Sunday School Teacher break up the messages of some of these televangelists. Bishop Jakes was among them! I’ve been a long-time follower of his teachings & so I’m saddened for this news!
We should never denied the nature of GOD. HE is good. GOD is our FATHER who loves us. GOD prospers GOD heals GOD blesses This is the nature of GOD. Because all of my prayers are not answered does not give me the right to say, my sickness, poverty, pain, is GODs will. We live in a fallen world, with a real adversary, who is responsible for the pain we experience. GOD certainly has allowed circumstances to change and grow me into HIS bride. In my case at least this was necessary and I am grateful. JOB shows us that it was the enemy who brought the destruction in JOBs life, not GOD. I also know that GOD does perform miraculous wonders. To say anything else is not right.
Thanks for this Faith. I love how you have worded this and explained it. I grew up under the "prosperity Gospel" but moved away from it learning about God's grace. American Gospel does a good documentary on it too. Glory to God.
After half a year praying and seeking God, God spoke to me in an audible voice to declare my Major as Math. It was the only time that God spoke to me in an audible voice. 2 Years later the Prosperity Church I attended tried to force me to drop out of the University and marry the Pastor's daughter. They told me that the education was worldly and I did not need it. I averaged around 37 dollars an hour and invested in Real Estate and have a net worth of millions. Where would I be today if I followed the Poverty Movement (You cannot call a church that only believes in tithing a prosperity Church). I have had pastors tell me that the rich man that went to hell in Luke 16:19-31 was a sinner. But in the parable Abraham tells the rich man that his brothers have Moses and the Prophets, to hear them. Who has Moses and the Prophets but Jewish Men? The rich man was a Jew, he paid his tithes and prospered, but went to Hell. Tithing does not make you holy. Many are called but few are chosen. In Luke 16:25 in Jesus parable, Abraham said that the rich man received his good things. How did he receive them? Getting skilled. Abraham was skilled with cow farming, Jacob skilled in sheep farming, Isaac skilled in agriculture, Joseph skilled in economics in Egypt, Jesus a Carpenter. All of them spent decades developing their skills. God gives the “ability” but you have to be diligent to develop your skills. I have seen Churches discourage some people when their career choices don’t follow their desires but you must be guided of God (1 John 2:27). According to James 1:5 God wants to give you wisdom in abundance.
"Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers". I understand that when you say "prosperity gospel" you are referring to a "self-centered" gospel (me-ology as you say), to get what we want. I agree that "making it about us" shouldn’t be the attitude. However, I would prefer not to call that self-centered approach a prosperity gospel. In my opinion prosperity and gospel go together, because Jesus came to give us life…abundantly. Shouldn’t we have abundant peace, a blessed soul and plenty of provision when walking with HIm? A prosperous fruitful life, as we are complete in Christ.
Yes 100% to this! God wants us to prosper. And we have the power in our words to speak things that are not as though they were. I always say I don’t believe in the “prosperity gospel” (as people see it) but I don’t believe in the poor gospel either!
@@sarahrobertson7432 It is God's will for us to prosper. Scripture says "He became poor so you might become rich." "I have a plan to prosper you." "You'll lend and not borrow." How can you lend when you have nothing? God didn't simply created us to live and die...he wants us to claim every blessing that created for us and crowned him all glory and honor. Be blessed and be the blessings! ❤️ 😇 We serve a rich God ❤️
very true, I think you have to have balance, even though I don't follow them anymore. I still believe my God does not want us to be poor and lacking. Living in survival mood and always having to beg for our needs. I decided to not follow Kenneth, Crefflo and others simply because I needed more focus on my personal relationship with him and not so much and the financial side of things but I also understand that even though we are no longer under the law. The law of sewing and reaping is still relevant. If I plant avocado seeds I shouldn't expect grapes at harvest time.
The next time you listen to a prosperity preacher, listen very closely. They do not preach on hell or sin. Joel has claimed openly several times in his early days that he was not his father. Satan knew the word and he was great at twisting the word…..be sure to study the word rightly so that you are not led over the cliff…
My late husband, our sons, and of course, I, were in Basic Life back in the 90s. It was expensive, though we liked the curriculum. But, roughly, $600 a person, including Mom and Dad, was beyond our means. When we tried to un-enroll, we were sent a book about George Muller, and were told to read it, and have faith. I wrote back, thanked them for the book (really like George Muller!), and told them the Lord shut every single doorway we needed to cross through right in our faces. We had one "No" after another from God; enough Noes to get the hint. The Lord didn't want us in IBLP anymore. They wrote back and said after we had some time off, we were welcome to return, and that God would bless us by increasing our faith. 🤦🤦🤦🤦 We never went back. We bought curriculum, and continued that year by ourselves. When our two sons found out, they celebrated. They didn't like IBLP. They thought it was too intrusive; Basic Life had to control everything. I think the biggest change was that Basic Life was gone, and the Lord Jesus was back at the center of our family. Sorry this was so long-winded! The Lord bless you.
I enjoy watching sports, enough that I schedule games in my planner. ☺️ I struggle with watching athletes hit a homerun or score a touchdown and gesture and look to heaven in celebration. On one side I appreciate their acknowledgement of God while on the other I cringe with idea they are conveying He blessed them by giving them a touchdown. It’s taken me years to try to turn from judging what they do and just say a quick mental prayer that their heart is right and gesturing for the right reason. This topic is close to my heart unfortunately.
I was blind too and then my Daddy died and I needed Jesus in a really big way cuz I couldnt get past the pain and my brother had a stroke and dad died 2 months later and my brother 2 years later
God hates make ups, earings, and all jewels. Even women are not supposed to wear trousers, shorts, high heels, dye or paint the hair. God hates all artificial contraceptives.
Christ paid so dearly so that we will have eternal life with him, not about the material world. One of devil's test to Christ was the wealth and status of this earth that He told him to disappear. Although I never heard of Prosperity gospel as an government's ideology, Ethiopian PM is enforcing it in Ethiopia that is in a downward spiral. May God be with us!
I attended a church for a few years and this is how it was as well,. Then he got bolder and wanted to see that we tithed enough with our taxes. Everyone was to hand them in so that he could tell you how much to pay every 2 weeks. He wrote books, had sermons on DVD and would openly say..... I can't help if i like nice things. He claimed the pandemic was a hoax, told the church not to vaccinate, constantly broke the law with services and went to court to fight them. If he got fined, the church paid it. He never believed covid at all..... sadly he passed away shortly before Christmas and the family nor church will say what it was. I can take a good guess though. That church brought in 4.9 million a year!!!
Thank you so much for your words of wisdom, I'm so happy I found your channel! Thank you for this fresh revelation of who God really is. Not my will, but yours be done. Luke 22:42
The HOLY SPIRIT visited me inside the company where I worked in 88, SP capital, then I went to the Christian congregation in Brazil where God spoke face to face with me ( brasil ) ( eua , ccus )
Thank you Faith. I never thought that the teachings Jinger family followed was a veiled prosperity gospel. Especially since Bill Gothard is not married and has no children. I'm needing to seek the Lord regarding my own convictions as to why I do the things I do. I want to make sure my motives aren't "me" focused but " God focused".
I recently read a book called Counterfeit Kingdom, I would love to hear your thoughts on that book if you have read it. Its definitely about prosperity gospel and the NAR. Quite eye opening.
Did he really say "come up here with God"....Kenneth Copeland(like many more) were the "christians" (little c) I saw as I was growing up. I am so happy that God has opened my eyes and heart to see actually what it means to be a real Christian(Big C)
There are Bible believing churches that are allowing tiny bits of the prosperity gospel to sneak in. Mine is on the slippery slope. Once I finish the Bible study I'm leading, I will be changing churches. The prosperity gospel is sneaky and we need to stay informed. Our Father is so so so so much better than the vending machine gospel. I've never heard anyone else call it that other than me. LOL Praise Him for his sovereignty! Great video reminder! I grew up in IBLP. 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
Great video. I lived in the same town as Joyce Meyer. As a matter of fact we both went to same church, sat under same preacher before she was Joyce Meyer. In the late 80s early 90s that prosperity preaching was hitting. When you live in a town that has an influential worldwide preacher the majority of those churches in that town will preach it the same thing she's preaching. You can't hide from it. I had to leave my church because I disagreed with this with my whole heart and they were telling me I was wrong. I lived in Fenton MO down the street of her headquarters. She dominated everywhere there. SMH it's so sad.
I thought JM talks about grief, over-coming abuse, the need for forgiveness? I hear her ask for a donation but never aggressively. You are making out that Joyce talks only about money.
I need to re-read her book... and possibly annotate. I loved the Duggars... like, defended them to the nth degree. Now, looking back at certain parts of the show, I'm like.... eh... P.S. I love your earrings!
Same thing since 1980 and nothing. Been in medical sales for 45 years and have fired, downsized, screwed out of bonuses, and etc. NO LEARJETS OR LIMOUSINES!
Wow, I’m so disappointed, I’ve been a fervent follower of one these televangelist; it’s saddening to me, but I’m a big girl & gonna have to open my eyes!
As a religious scientist)science of mind, Dr. EARNEST HOLMES) I can tell you, jesus never once said that he wanted people to be poor never once.Does anywhere does the bible say that people need a liver in poverty
I never realized that this is what it was, but I knew that I did not like the messages that these 2 preachers were preaching. I do have a question if you wouldn't mind addressing? What do you think about Joyce Meyers and would you say that her principles and teaching are more biblically based or more towards the prosperity line? Thank you for all that you do for us and getting the word of the Lord out.
The Cross is about God redeeming us so that we may be indebted to Him, as bondservants we are called to give up physical pleasures of the Earth (and suffer persecution in God's timing) so that Christ may reap the final harvest of people who will have come to accept Him as Savior because of the Gospel preached throughout the world. Satan uses him own message of the gospel to reverse the one who is receiving the glory and blessings of the Father, when it fact all of history is focused so that the Son of God, Jesus Christ may receive the final glory and blessing of His redemptive work...
I was just thinking about this, this morning…I used to be blinded by their teaching and it’s funny how I can now recognize it so easily. Than you Jesus 🙌🏼
Wow!! God’s Timing is amazing! Praise the LORD! 👏🏻
I also used to be blind to a lot of things and have had my eyes and ears opened... So to speak.
If you go to God and ask for the spirit to understand in the name of Jesus... How much of it will he give? The answer is as much as you are willing to receive. The holy Spirit isn't there to teach you what you want to hear but what you need to hear in order to be corrected in your heart and mind.... Usually that is the opposite of what you want to hear.... If the spirit in you is teaching you how powerful you are and how you are in control, that it's you that changes you, etc. ummm you should definitely discern the spirit that is guiding you because you are not God... And you shouldn't want to be either, just saying.
"Vending machine theology" and "Me-ology" are two of my new favorite phrases. I had heard this approach described as "treating God like a sky Santa" but that's even more precise and powerful. And I LOVE the Scripture citations that you have started including on the screen. Preach, girl, you've got a gift!
YES! Agree with the scripture citations, good point.
Sky Santa... Yes I love that. We get so caught up in "ME" that we forget that there can't be a Me without Him☝️.
Good point. I think one problem within the more evangelical Churches is their denigration of theology.
As Christians, lets take God's revelation on faith. However, the thought that you don't need thought makes people vulnerable to all kinds of teaching: "If it feel good and there are enough scriptures supporting it then it must be true".
The fact is, unthoughtful reading of the bible can lead to all kinds of cultish and harmful doctrines.
Revelation is not so obvious that you can read the bible like a simple instruction manual.
This is why we have teachers, this is why we are told to use discernment, to test, to have wisdom, etc.
Some within evangelicalism think this all means reading your bible more.
Committed Bible reading Christians have been led into all sorts of crazy things.
This is the value of theology. It's not about vain intellectual glory (although it can become that). It's about using the faculties God gave you so you can better understand the message.
It enriches faith rather than replaces it.
“My idols didn’t go away because of my rules.” Whoa I needed to hear that!
Right?! She's so good at bringing the truth
LITERALLY. Me too
God keep leaving me speechless 😶 I needed this like a glass of water in the dessert. I can't believe that this video was just uploaded an hour ago. God is good all the time! 🙏🙏🙏 He is still working even when we set him aside to focus on our problems and whine which I'm convicted of.
I don't deserve you Lord, but you're so good natured and merciful.
Amen. When God gives to us, it’s so we can give to others/ use it to build his kingdom.
The Bible says not to store treasure on earth.
Early in my Christian walk, while dealing with medical issues that still continue today, I was crying out to God in prayer. I asked Him why He wouldn’t heal me. I heard His still small voice in my spirit asking me, “If I never heal you on earth, will you still love Me? Will you still serve Me? That was all I needed to hear to accept God’s will. I’ve learned so much along the way. I do want to point out that I was going to a church at that time. I asked for prayer on endurance bc I was in a lot of physical pain. I was asked by the elder if I believed God could heal me. He went on to tell me not to acknowledge any physical pain and just claim that I was healed. So many well-intentioned Christians have approached me the same way over the years. I went to God in prayer, asking Him how to respond. He told me to tell them that “my times are in His hands.” Later on, while reading Ps. 31:14-15 I came across those same words. It’s been freeing to give God control over my life. Thank you for speaking on such an important topic. You nailed the truth!! God bless you.
@@hiddeninjesus4819 Nice to meet you. The verse you mentioned about His stripes…you are using it out of context. You are cherry picking one verse instead of looking at it as a whole. 1 Peter 2:24-25 says, “who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness - by whose stripes you were healed. For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.” Nowhere in that passage does it indicate physical healing and that’s because that entire passage has to do with being saved from our sins (spiritual). I wish you well. May God bless you.
@@hiddeninjesus4819 I believe with all my being that God can heal me. All He has to do is say the word, and it’s done. Like Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, even though I know my God is able to heal me, if He doesn’t while I’m on earth, I will still only serve Him. And like the example of my Lord and Savior, who prayed for His Father to remove the cup that was to come, He also prayed that the Father’s will would be done and not His. That’s been my prayer - for God to heal me physically yet not my will but His will be done. God doesn’t promise to physically heal every one of His children on earth, and I eagerly look forward to the promise of eternity where all suffering shall cease. I feel sadness that you’re having such a difficult time grasping this. Just know that I’m blessed. Praying God’s blessings on you and yours.
@@hiddeninjesus4819 Respectfully, I’ve said all that I’m going to say. I wish you well.
@@hiddeninjesus4819 Sorry my english is not good.
I agree with what you said. You're wisdom edify me and God is glorified. I'm the living testimony of how God work when faith works. God would speak to me through the dreams concerning my difficulties i would be facing and consistently i was dealing with the problems I didn't had boldness to ask God so i try to prayed like Jesus "Let your will be done and not mine" 😂 but i was exhausted trying, dealing. Long story short, now i prayed away by faith and if God allow, it allows for good he will give me the grace to deal with, I ask boldly knowing he is for me. All my life trying in accept every difficulties that comes my way to please God was a lie, it was my PRIDE and my lack of Faith. God truly works where the faith activate.
May God the most kind give you health! May pain be your past! In the bible there is this story of a woman who had been suffering for 12 years and lost all what she had. Her strong faith allowed her to heal herself touching Christ's cloth while he was walking among a crowd. May God fill you with such grace of faith.
God bless you abundantly!
I always find prosperity gospel stuff so difficult as it can easily sneak in to our way of thinking! Love the 'me-ology' name, that's a brilliant way of describing it!!
God is Sovereign
God is not a vending machine! I've been saying this for years!. The Lord answers all prayers, but sometimes the answer is "No!" Who are we to demand God to give us what we want?
“Though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him” -Job 13:15 🙏🏼. Whatever comes my way, He is all I need. Even when that doesn’t make sense to anyone else.
Amen 🥲🤍
Man that just brought me to my knees... Hallelujah
Girl!! God is working through you my sister in Christ! Every word spoken in this video is gold! So so good...bless you and keep speaking truth ❤
Wow! What high compliments! Gee whiz. Thank you. I don’t deserve that, if there’s any good from me- it’s God.
@@HowtoFaithALife #Question... Can you tell me if you were recommending the book: Becoming free indeed, by Jinger Duggar Vuolo or not? I have a list of books you recommend and want to know if I should add this one :) I loved all the scripture in this video :)
I’m avidly opposed to heresy hunting and blasting preachers online and blah blah blah…I see value in some things Kenneth Hagan has done / taught / whatever…but I also see the flags. Anyway. I typically completely avoid videos (& even people in general) that harp on or heavily criticize other Christians. I think it’s SUPER dangerous territory.
Anyway…I almost didn’t watch this video from you, because I’m new to your channel (LOVE it, btw) & I expected more of the same. Totallly came into this with my guard up & ready to click to a different video.
But let me just say…this is THE BEST commentary on such things that I’ve ever heard. That is all. Thank you for the approach you took with this. This is what we need more of.
Certain things may be off regarding a lot of teaching with the prosperity gospel, but it is true. God prospers us, especially when we live according to his will. All throughout the word we see God blessing his people who obeyed him. Paul says in Romans 8:28 that all things work for good to those who love God and are called, and in 2Corinthiajs 2:14 about always triumphing in Christ. Jesus said in Mathew 6 that if you seek first the kingdom, then your needs will be added to you. So all of that is being in prosperity. Being prosperous doesn’t mean you won’t go through things or suffer, but you know that God will help you through your sufferings and turn and work everything for good.
Not necessarily. God can do what He wants. He will give us what we need. Think of the parable of the talents: he gave different amounts to the three
@@jean-pierreetdaniellegoyet4764 The different amounts Jesus said was in regards to their own ability, it’s not God saying I’m gonna give one this amount just because I want to, it’s based on the person and what God knows they can handle. Like a person strong in faith towards God can receive more from him because of that , rather than someone who lacks it. It’s like James saying a double minded person won’t receive anything from God, so a person who isn’t double minded will receive from God because they have full trust in him.
@@marktravis5162 talents were a currency. O agree that it’s also a metaphor for giftings/abilities but in the parabole it was the master who gave the talents and the master can be interpreted as God. Therefore God will give what he wants to whom He wants and how He wants. He is sovereign.
Did you read up on how a lot of apostles ended up?
Prosperity gospel totally ignores that Paul was writing a bunch of his stuff from Jail, Jail that the holy spirit mentioned to him before... He didn't go, "get there behind me Satan,, God wants the best for us at all times).
Timothy is written whilst he was in jail, before his execution, which he mentions.
Paul says he's had seasons of little and seasons of plenty, he wouldn't he say being right with God means your life always looks good, your health is amazing and so on.
Timothy has frequent illnesses, Paul told him to drink wine, and didn't tell him to claim, name and demand his health and wealth because that's what God wants.
There's a point where prosperity gospel just becomes insensitive and souless, we start telling the poor, the ill and the down trodden that they are where they are because that want to be there, because they're not demanding their healing, they're not having enough faith. They've all become Job's friends, they've become Hymenaeus and Philetus who claimed resurrection had already happened, meaning the promises like incorruptible bodies that will see no illnesses (many claims the prosperity only theology makes) are already here, DESTROYING the faith of some. Paul says that.
Been struggling with this recently. My emotions have been frustrated with God like "why are these things happening in my life?" But when I feel that way I've been trying to remind myself "God owes you nothing, life isn't promised to be easy just because I follow him, etc." But every time the feelings take over my thoughts it's such a struggle.
he is letting it happen so that you draw closer to him.
Well said Faith. We should glorify God, not ourselves.
My most favorite clause: BUT GOD. If not for Him, I don't know where I'd be or what I'd be doing.
I absolutely love this. It clarified so many thoughts i already had.
Oh my…I remember that time I realized that God is good even if I don’t get what I want (He gives me what I need) and I have to constantly read His Word to remind me to deny myself lest I be ungrateful. God is good. Periodt.
You’re truly blessed, please never stop this channel. This is another way of GOD talking to us!
"...that why it's hard for us to name it and claim it..." That was a good play on words/refrence there.
You are right, my country (Brazil) is lost in the evangelical ideology of prosperity
Oh, wow, that’s good, girl! Isn’t that crazy how we can make something as undeserved as the gospel be about us?! Man, did I need that! Thanks!
Amen! Thank you! More messages like this need to be said. When I surrendered all my works “declaring” “affirmations” “thinking positively” etc I began to seek God with all my heart in my Bible, then it became all about Him and His will for my life. I no longer do things to earn blessing or Gods love. Now I have a true relationship with Him! Walking in sanctification and learning all about His ways. I didn’t realize how much I made the Bible about me and centered around me. It was definitely not about Him. None of these preachers share the true gospel… that we are sinners in need of a savior. Jesus didn’t come here to bring us wealth and abundance… but eternal life! All the pastors I followed for a long time never preached this. Instead I got a motivational speech that made me feel good about myself, nothing saying I need to turn away from my sin.
We moved 6 months ago. something wasn't right.
God showed us clear as day.
We literally prayed about the church we are going to because we both felt something wasn't right.
On Sunday the church one of the leaders tithe 4,000 counted the while amount right in front of the congregation believing for ten fold .
Not right at all 😮
felted disgusted and concerned for his heart something is not right him .
Plus the Pastor allowing it.
I wasn't there I told my husband he should've walked out.
God showed us clear as day.
God been giving us red flags that was last straw I started digging into the church.
God showed that he is on the board word of faith ministries with Dr Fredrick KC Prince.
Long story short we are not going to be involved in posterity gospel.
I know it was the Lord showing us this not the church for us.
Faith…May God continue to bless you so you can continue to bless others. ❤️❤️❤️
Love the scripture throughout the video. God is glorified through this video!
And another huge me-ology is personal development…fell into that one too 🤦🏼♀️
YES! self-help books up the wazoo! ugh
Amen!! It’s all about God! It’s all about Jesus! I’ve been missing your longer videos. I really like the shorts! But I really like getting more information from your longer videos, as well. They’re so encouraging. Thank you!
AMEN 🙏 🙌🏻Praise Jesus ❤
Y the way, LOVE your earrings ❤Love your look!!never too much, just enough 😃👍❤️
Wow! So good. I really needed to be reminded of this. Thank you for standing in the truth!
Dang woman, you did it again! I keep watching your videos and talking back to you about all of the things I do/say that you're talking about. The Duggars - me too! lol, I grew up thinking so much of them because what I saw was people who loved God, had children because they refused to practice any sort of birth control (lol, I remember an interview once where Michelle said that every time Jim Bob laid his pants on the bed she got pregnant). I knew they didn't have debt and that they paid for everything they had, outside of any donations that may have been given to them. I've heard stuff coming out about the family over the last decade-ish but I haven't followed up with any of it and couldn't tell you if any, or all, of it is true. I grew up in Mesquite, probably not much older than you.
This past Sunday night I rode to church with a neighbor because I didn't feel good and didn't feel like driving. I've been to that church multiple times and, other than it just not fitting, I couldn't really tell you why. Until Sunday. They said tonight's bible study we're going to watch a short video from "Brother Kenneth Copeland" and my alarm bells went off. I quietly excused myself to my neighbors and went and sat in the car until church was dismissed. Now I know why my spirit just wasn't at ease in that church but I couldn't have pointed to any one sermon they gave that would indicate it wasn't biblical. I won't be back and I'm definitely going to pay closer attention going forward!
So, again, I'm nodding and agreeing with you throughout your videos. I wish I knew you because I adore the heck out of you!
I watched your video twice. I am having a hard time understanding your message. Gothard was promoting strict legalism. That is similar to what I encountered attending a strict Fundamentalist Baptist School. However my dad listened to the Copeland's, Robert Tilton, and a few others who preached the "prosperity" gospel. I do believe the Copeland's are sincere. After hurricane Katrina their ministry was quietly sending funds straight to non profits to help people. Many of the other "ministries" only sent help if they could get publicity out of it.
In my view, there are many differences between the two. Legalism does teach that God blesses if you follow a very strict set of rules. Also it is taught that if you break any of those rules you loose your salvation. The rules were endless. Prosperity gospel at the extreme teaches that you just name it and claim it and sow a seed with faith God will give you whatever you want. I heard very little about obedience and repentance.
Here is what I believe. We need the law to show us that we are sinners desperately in need of Jesus. His death on the cross was the final payment for our sins. We do need to confess when we have failed. It keeps our hearts pure and holy. I also believe that it is okay to ask God for things you want. It doesn't mean you will get them. But you also need to be asking Him to align your heart, will, and desires with His. As you allow the Holy Spirit to do the work in you, the more you will want Him and to further His kingdom here on earth.
Finally some sense.
I will say that I have never watch the duggars show and only am vaguely aware of it because of media. I have no idea what their biblical beliefs were. My understanding of the prosperity teaching has nothing to with our works and everything about the cross. Because of Jesus we no longer live under the curse of the law but share in the blessings of Abraham. Jesus himself said the father in heaven knows how to give his children good gifts (I am paraphrasing) The father in Heaven knows what we need and will provide for us. I do believe in paying tithes because it is important that we support the spread of the gospel and lets face it without money it is more difficult to do that. The one scripture in the Bible (that I am aware of) where God actually says to test him has to do with paying tithes. To me, that is my understanding of the prosperity teaching, pay tithes and be blessed but don’t pay the tithes just for the blessing. Pay the tithes to support the sharing of what Jesus has done for us and God will bless you for it. (Hopefully that makes sense) I know the Copelands do teach on prosperity but that is not the only topic they teach on. One of my favorite series are some videos teaching on the last super that I found to be very helpful when understanding the importance of the last supper, the new covenant and the importance for us to take communion. When you take communion it is all about the Cross, it is remembering what Jesus has done for us and the new covenant that we have with God.
You are an amazingly gifted person, and your insightful thoughts blessed me tremendously.
Right on! The world is all about me, self what it wants. We're to be separate from the world. All about what God wants and how he wants to use me for his plan. Deny self and draw closer to Him. Thanks for sharing
Yes I’ve heard that before and I love that scenario. God is not a gum ball machine. You don’t just say little wimpy prayers. God I’ll do this if you do that amen. It is a relationship! Spend time in the word and spend time in prayer 🙏🏼 😊
I love this, "God never asked us to be Him" It is so powerful regarding our salvation. We can never 'work' ourselves up to a status of being 'holy' like God!
Thank you, Faith for showing me this truth. I didn't know. Grateful for you.
I absolutely LOVED this video! You always point out the false doctrine and teaching by certain pastors in such a loving way. My only thing that you said that you lost me on was when you were talking about Jinger’s book and about Gothard’s teachings (which I’m completely against his teachings) but you said “…while it’s good to dress modestly, those aren’t ultimate rules that we should add to the Bible.” But dressing modestly is in fact a biblical command given to us by God through Paul. It doesn’t say women must wear skirts only, I believe that’s based off of a woman’s personal conviction that’s strictly between her and the Lord, but modesty is in fact a “rule” that’s already in scripture. I do believe that modesty is most importantly a heart issue that lies in the representation of our works and lifestyle, but also in how we dress as well. I hope all that made sense! I do want to add that I don’t believe that if you dress modestly then you’ll get whatever you pray for from that. That “vending machine” theology (I’m totally going to be using that term from now on btw!😂) isn’t truth. It’s just a part of living a holy lifestyle and being set apart from the world as a follower of Christ!🤍
this is all we can say unto those false teachers of prosperity gospel "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves"
Sister, I appreciate you putting this out.
As someone who used to be in business with a lot of the headliner prosperity preachers, I see too much of this, as though the same message becomes okay if it's your local pastor instead of a megachurch TV preacher.
Thank you for your work.
Well, this one is a keeper ! Shared !
You express truth very passionate, knowledgeble and beautifully, thank you
A month ago i watched "Christ Alone The American Gospel" an it blew my mind, i thought i could tell the difference between prosperity gospel an boy i was SO WRONG. Being a baby christian that's all I'd hear in any churches i went to but then i started getting hungry for more God centered an saw my step dad watching Voddie Baucham an i loved it but i still wasn't understanding what it meant to live a prosperous life, i was heavily rooted in new ageism for a while an although God removed many things from my life the "law of attraction mind set" has ultimately been very difficult to let go of but since that movie i now understand the true fullness of God an to suffer for him in any account's its such great joy 😊❤
I love your teaching! I really felt this one! Faith, please, with so much love, please sloooow down a bit. Thank you for your work and videos! You're a true blessing. ❤️
You can slow down the video! (I often times speed up videos, not hers, but I like being able to adjust the speed) I hope that helps
Vending machine theology & meology! I love these terms! Prosperity Preachers are everywhere! Earlier I watched a Sunday School Teacher break up the messages of some of these televangelists. Bishop Jakes was among them! I’ve been a long-time follower of his teachings & so I’m saddened for this news!
Just heading them talk turns my warning on for not being what my heart needs to hear
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We should never denied the nature of GOD. HE is good.
GOD is our FATHER who loves us.
GOD prospers
GOD heals
GOD blesses
This is the nature of GOD.
Because all of my prayers are not answered does not give me the right to say, my sickness, poverty, pain, is GODs will.
We live in a fallen world, with a real adversary, who is responsible for the pain we experience. GOD certainly has allowed circumstances to change and grow me into HIS bride.
In my case at least this was necessary and I am grateful.
JOB shows us that it was the enemy who brought the destruction in JOBs life, not GOD.
I also know that GOD does perform miraculous wonders.
To say anything else is not right.
Thanks for this Faith. I love how you have worded this and explained it. I grew up under the "prosperity Gospel" but moved away from it learning about God's grace. American Gospel does a good documentary on it too. Glory to God.
This video is so good and very necessary. Thank you for this, Faith.
After half a year praying and seeking God, God spoke to me in an audible voice to declare my Major as Math. It was the only time that God spoke to me in an audible voice. 2 Years later the Prosperity Church I attended tried to force me to drop out of the University and marry the Pastor's daughter. They told me that the education was worldly and I did not need it. I averaged around 37 dollars an hour and invested in Real Estate and have a net worth of millions. Where would I be today if I followed the Poverty Movement (You cannot call a church that only believes in tithing a prosperity Church).
I have had pastors tell me that the rich man that went to hell in Luke 16:19-31 was a sinner. But in the parable Abraham tells the rich man that his brothers have Moses and the Prophets, to hear them. Who has Moses and the Prophets but Jewish Men? The rich man was a Jew, he paid his tithes and prospered, but went to Hell. Tithing does not make you holy. Many are called but few are chosen.
In Luke 16:25 in Jesus parable, Abraham said that the rich man received his good things. How did he receive them? Getting skilled. Abraham was skilled with cow farming, Jacob skilled in sheep farming, Isaac skilled in agriculture, Joseph skilled in economics in Egypt, Jesus a Carpenter. All of them spent decades developing their skills. God gives the “ability” but you have to be diligent to develop your skills. I have seen Churches discourage some people when their career choices don’t follow their desires but you must be guided of God (1 John 2:27). According to James 1:5 God wants to give you wisdom in abundance.
wow Faith, this video is a home run!! i love sharing in gods glory with you.... i hope to meet you someday (smiley face)
Absolutely well put together video. Thank you. This is all over so many churches!!
Thank you ❤
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"Meology," clever! Excellent video and message!
"Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers". I understand that when you say "prosperity gospel" you are referring to a "self-centered" gospel (me-ology as you say), to get what we want. I agree that "making it about us" shouldn’t be the attitude. However, I would prefer not to call that self-centered approach a prosperity gospel. In my opinion prosperity and gospel go together, because Jesus came to give us life…abundantly. Shouldn’t we have abundant peace, a blessed soul and plenty of provision when walking with HIm? A prosperous fruitful life, as we are complete in Christ.
Yes 100% to this! God wants us to prosper. And we have the power in our words to speak things that are not as though they were. I always say I don’t believe in the “prosperity gospel” (as people see it) but I don’t believe in the poor gospel either!
@@sarahrobertson7432 It is God's will for us to prosper. Scripture says "He became poor so you might become rich." "I have a plan to prosper you." "You'll lend and not borrow." How can you lend when you have nothing? God didn't simply created us to live and die...he wants us to claim every blessing that created for us and crowned him all glory and honor. Be blessed and be the blessings! ❤️ 😇 We serve a rich God ❤️
very true, I think you have to have balance, even though I don't follow them anymore. I still believe my God does not want us to be poor and lacking. Living in survival mood and always having to beg for our needs. I decided to not follow Kenneth, Crefflo and others simply because I needed more focus on my personal relationship with him and not so much and the financial side of things but I also understand that even though we are no longer under the law. The law of sewing and reaping is still relevant. If I plant avocado seeds I shouldn't expect grapes at harvest time.
The next time you listen to a prosperity preacher, listen very closely. They do not preach on hell or sin. Joel has claimed openly several times in his early days that he was not his father. Satan knew the word and he was great at twisting the word…..be sure to study the word rightly so that you are not led over the cliff…
If I would be offered heaven and eternity without Christ, I would reject it. Just the same way it's not right to love the gift more than the gifter.
My late husband, our sons, and of course, I, were in Basic Life back in the 90s. It was expensive, though we liked the curriculum. But, roughly, $600 a person, including Mom and Dad, was beyond our means. When we tried to un-enroll, we were sent a book about George Muller, and were told to read it, and have faith. I wrote back, thanked them for the book (really like George Muller!), and told them the Lord shut every single doorway we needed to cross through right in our faces. We had one "No" after another from God; enough Noes to get the hint. The Lord didn't want us in IBLP anymore.
They wrote back and said after we had some time off, we were welcome to return, and that God would bless us by increasing our faith. 🤦🤦🤦🤦
We never went back. We bought curriculum, and continued that year by ourselves. When our two sons found out, they celebrated. They didn't like IBLP. They thought it was too intrusive; Basic Life had to control everything. I think the biggest change was that Basic Life was gone, and the Lord Jesus was back at the center of our family. Sorry this was so long-winded!
The Lord bless you.
P.S. It may be a cult, but it isn't difficult to quit. Just don't give them any money. 😏😉
I enjoy watching sports, enough that I schedule games in my planner. ☺️ I struggle with watching athletes hit a homerun or score a touchdown and gesture and look to heaven in celebration. On one side I appreciate their acknowledgement of God while on the other I cringe with idea they are conveying He blessed them by giving them a touchdown. It’s taken me years to try to turn from judging what they do and just say a quick mental prayer that their heart is right and gesturing for the right reason. This topic is close to my heart unfortunately.
I was blind too and then my Daddy died and I needed Jesus in a really big way cuz I couldnt get past the pain and my brother had a stroke and dad died 2 months later and my brother 2 years later
Thanks for all your teachings! Amen and amen 🙏Great stuff, Faith ❤️💕
Amen! BTW, I happen LOVE your earrings and makeup! 😂❤️❤️
God hates make ups, earings, and all jewels.
Even women are not supposed to wear trousers, shorts, high heels, dye or paint the hair.
God hates all artificial contraceptives.
God hates them though.
Its a sin to wear them.
Matthew 6:19-21...Amen❤
Christ paid so dearly so that we will have eternal life with him, not about the material world. One of devil's test to Christ was the wealth and status of this earth that He told him to disappear. Although I never heard of Prosperity gospel as an government's ideology, Ethiopian PM is enforcing it in Ethiopia that is in a downward spiral. May God be with us!
So many great gems! Thank you for sharing!
I attended a church for a few years and this is how it was as well,. Then he got bolder and wanted to see that we tithed enough with our taxes. Everyone was to hand them in so that he could tell you how much to pay every 2 weeks. He wrote books, had sermons on DVD and would openly say..... I can't help if i like nice things. He claimed the pandemic was a hoax, told the church not to vaccinate, constantly broke the law with services and went to court to fight them. If he got fined, the church paid it. He never believed covid at all..... sadly he passed away shortly before Christmas and the family nor church will say what it was. I can take a good guess though. That church brought in 4.9 million a year!!!
Thank you so much for your words of wisdom, I'm so happy I found your channel! Thank you for this fresh revelation of who God really is. Not my will, but yours be done. Luke 22:42
Name it and claim it is deceitful as well
The HOLY SPIRIT visited me inside the company where I worked in 88, SP capital, then I went to the Christian congregation in Brazil where God spoke face to face with me ( brasil ) ( eua , ccus )
I really appreciate your explanation on this! I think you did a great job of making it clear but not judgy.
"they will seek for themselves doctors who are according to their own desires"
Amen 2:36!!!!
The Gospel brings many blessings and promises with it. God brought them to us. How is this me centered?
Thank you Faith. I never thought that the teachings Jinger family followed was a veiled prosperity gospel. Especially since Bill Gothard is not married and has no children. I'm needing to seek the Lord regarding my own convictions as to why I do the things I do. I want to make sure my motives aren't "me" focused but " God focused".
very good pointed-the title
Incredible perspective!! Thanks so much!!
I recently read a book called Counterfeit Kingdom, I would love to hear your thoughts on that book if you have read it. Its definitely about prosperity gospel and the NAR. Quite eye opening.
Did he really say "come up here with God"....Kenneth Copeland(like many more) were the "christians" (little c) I saw as I was growing up. I am so happy that God has opened my eyes and heart to see actually what it means to be a real Christian(Big C)
There are Bible believing churches that are allowing tiny bits of the prosperity gospel to sneak in. Mine is on the slippery slope. Once I finish the Bible study I'm leading, I will be changing churches. The prosperity gospel is sneaky and we need to stay informed. Our Father is so so so so much better than the vending machine gospel. I've never heard anyone else call it that other than me. LOL Praise Him for his sovereignty! Great video reminder!
I grew up in IBLP. 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
Excellent reflection and reference, Faith!! Very timely in the world today. Thank you 🙏🏼.
Don’t forget Joyce Meyer
Great video. I lived in the same town as Joyce Meyer. As a matter of fact we both went to same church, sat under same preacher before she was Joyce Meyer. In the late 80s early 90s that prosperity preaching was hitting. When you live in a town that has an influential worldwide preacher the majority of those churches in that town will preach it the same thing she's preaching. You can't hide from it. I had to leave my church because I disagreed with this with my whole heart and they were telling me I was wrong. I lived in Fenton MO down the street of her headquarters. She dominated everywhere there. SMH it's so sad.
I thought JM talks about grief, over-coming abuse, the need for forgiveness? I hear her ask for a donation but never aggressively. You are making out that Joyce talks only about money.
I need to re-read her book... and possibly annotate. I loved the Duggars... like, defended them to the nth degree. Now, looking back at certain parts of the show, I'm like.... eh... P.S. I love your earrings!
Me - ology- you nailed it! 😄
I just found your channel and I'm so thankful! Love your teaching!
This was on time!
Been naming and claiming for 43 years and nothing
Same thing since 1980 and nothing. Been in medical sales for 45 years and have fired, downsized, screwed out of bonuses, and etc. NO LEARJETS OR LIMOUSINES!
I just love you!
Wow, I’m so disappointed, I’ve been a fervent follower of one these televangelist; it’s saddening to me, but I’m a big girl & gonna have to open my eyes!
TBN has been comprised for decades as Dr. Walter Martin was trying to explain on the air. He was never invited again after his interview.
God wants us well and blessed over and above salvation.
Bless you for the message you are sharing with everyone!
Good Word young lady. Amen
This is fantastic, thank you for sharing
As a religious scientist)science of mind, Dr. EARNEST HOLMES) I can tell you, jesus never once said that he wanted people to be poor never once.Does anywhere does the bible say that people need a liver in poverty
good job sis! I like your exhuberance and excitement in His Spirit. Many are left astray unfortunatelly and is going to get worse.
This is a great video!
Glad you enjoyed it. Continually praying! I think of you often and pray.
Thank you so much for your prayers! It is greatly appreciated. 💖 Is there anything I can pray for you?
This is such a good word! So on point! Thank you! 😊 ❤️
Glad it was helpful!
I never realized that this is what it was, but I knew that I did not like the messages that these 2 preachers were preaching. I do have a question if you wouldn't mind addressing? What do you think about Joyce Meyers and would you say that her principles and teaching are more biblically based or more towards the prosperity line? Thank you for all that you do for us and getting the word of the Lord out.
Cool video! Thank you!
The Cross is about God redeeming us so that we may be indebted to Him, as bondservants we are called to give up physical pleasures of the Earth (and suffer persecution in God's timing) so that Christ may reap the final harvest of people who will have come to accept Him as Savior because of the Gospel preached throughout the world. Satan uses him own message of the gospel to reverse the one who is receiving the glory and blessings of the Father, when it fact all of history is focused so that the Son of God, Jesus Christ may receive the final glory and blessing of His redemptive work...