Thought the same thing. I could never 100% figure out that part, so this actually just helped me finally nail it! I can actually play the song all the way through now
Yes, I had a theory that Lopez was kicked out of the band for using this rhythm too much, cuz it's not so prominent anymore. 😂 Lopez was the best though... And I know about his insomnia etc.
Dude this is such an insightful video about the intersections and commonalities of music! African rhythms, jazz, polka, metal, Id be so interested to see how other genres of music combine historic rhythms into their music
True thrash beat is when you listening to late Chris witchunter from legendary Sodom..that's really thrash beat..bay area is gene hoglan..DM pete Sandoval for sure, mick Harris for grindcore, his pattern that Napalm Death's trademark.
Iron cobras are a waste of money. You can do anything with a cheap pair of kicks. And if you need something to give you a boost in your speed, get something with compression springs. Iron cobras are practically useless, given their price, and the cheaper price of better pedals
Dustin Hope You can do anything with cheaper pedals, true, but that’s like saying that buying a luxury car is pointless because you can buy a cheap one. You aren’t wrong, but it’s a lot nicer to use an iron cobra and they are built to a standard that few pedals match without going over their cost.
Definitely useful to beats to know for metal. more double bass variation patterns instead of all the blast beats would've been cool to see. Maybe a part 2
First beat is also on Gojira - Oroborus but with double bass below it, and starting with the left hand (because it's on the ride, and otherwise you can't play the backbeat on snare with the left hand.
I got this funny situation, my neighbor is this 70 something year old drummer. He gets angry any time I even hint at the idea he might not know everything there is to know about drumming. He thinks music stopped when he did, so, around the 70's. I'm a guitarist myself, I know about 16th notes and bomb blasts though, but I wish I could give him a list of all the developments in drumming from the 80s and onward.
We if you think about it, the "grind" beat is just like, a Souza marching drum line with cymbals and bass drum on downs and snares on ups, just really fast.
Thats awesome, i am working on learning Slaughtered-Pantera at the moment and that first beat is used buy vinnie in the middle groove for that song, thats super cool.
2 things: 1) IIRC the Bembe usually ends on R, not L 2) While he was with Dark Angel, Gene Hoglan actually used the "One" beat before Lars did - check out the title track on their 1986 album Darkness Descends
4:10 this is regular bit in Serbian weddings songs or I can say orthodox songs :D we have a song called: "Today mother you are marrying your son" and that is the rhythm, but there are many more like that. We also have a lot of Arabic rhythms in the songs, but thank you for explaining this, I'm trying to learn more types of music because one day I'll be better at what I play
I'm going to write this in english for the sake of other readers, but essentially, that song could be played in 4:13 beat, but it's not, the original song doesn't have drums, and in weddings it's played with a mid tempo disco beat, variating from hi hat to ride. 👍
Thrash beat is actually punk beat... One of the first I learned some 17-18 years ago. But I always had a problem with fills while playing that beat, always losing the tempo
@3pac son No, it came from Polka. It's a classic Polka beat, go to any Oktoberfest and that's the primary beat behind just about every song. It's either that or Oom Pah Pah. Polka's been around since the 1870s; Ska since the late 1960s so you tell me who came up with it first.
@3pac son Okay, we don't have to get into a big thing with this. If the beat was originated in Polka, all other inspirations of the beat were inspired by Polka. Polka did it first was my point.
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS Ska was before punk & metal. Ska originated in the early '60's, 2 Tone didn't invented ska, although they popularized it. And basic ska beat is kick-hat-snare-hat (KRLR) - it's the simplest linear groove
I think the drum intro in Indians is pretty iconic. Charlie Benante is just super underrated, mainly because people always disregard Anthrax for some reason.
The whole heavy metal genre has such cool drummming part, but it's disregarded because most people think it's just noise and satanic or (and that's even worse) the only real music is jazz LOL.
guys, pretty sure this guy is giving credit where credit is due...
... you have to
yeah, you've gotta give credit where credits due.
Well he went over the beats pretty thoroughly so you know, give credit where credit is due.
Haven’t read many comments. What’s the trash talk look like?
came for this comment. Credit has been given
1:57
DARKNESS
IMPRISONING ME
ALL THAT I SEE
ABSOLUTE HORROR
Erik M. I CANNOT FEEL
I CANNOT DIE
TRAPPED IN MYSELF
BODY HOLDING MY CELL
LANDMINE HAS TAKEN MY SİGHT
TAKEN MY SPEECH
@@BanksOpenOnTuesdays TAKEN MY HEARING
TAKEN MY ARMS
At 3:25 my Grandma stareted singing "Roll Out The Barrel", since it's a type of Polka - at 200BPM she vaporized...
her th-cam.com/video/j_XwlI81Aig/w-d-xo.html
Lmao
that first beat was used by Vinnie in Pantera: Slaughtered RIP Vinnie
Simon Oliver nice ear bro.
Thought the same ;)
came to check this comment
And at the end of walk
Thought the same thing. I could never 100% figure out that part, so this actually just helped me finally nail it! I can actually play the song all the way through now
1 more thing st. anger snare sound
God its awful
Yikes
The first one is just a double paradiddle. Jeff Porcaro used this beat a lot as well.
I call them para para diddles, as opposed to a para diddle diddle ( RL RR LL), I guess both could be counted as double diddle variations
i was going to say the same its just a double paradiddle
Simon Oliver wouldn’t a paraparadiddle be RLRLRR? and then paradiddlediddle is RLRRLL
Ah I should have read first.
Simon Oliver a para para diddle would be RLRLRR or LRLRLL. A para diddle diddle is RLRRLL or LRLLRR.
0:31 ah the martin lopez special
Immediately thought of The Baying Of The Hounds lol that section where he plays it is so cool
Yes, I had a theory that Lopez was kicked out of the band for using this rhythm too much, cuz it's not so prominent anymore. 😂 Lopez was the best though... And I know about his insomnia etc.
Literally my reaction hehe. Cool to hear it may derive from an african beat, alqays thought it was a paraparadiddle thing.
The first beat I remember from Vinnie in Slaughtered....don't know if it's exactly same it just reminds me of it
Same
Yeah dude
revocation is amazing
5:21
trapped in purgatory
A lifeless object alive
Awaiting reprisal
Death will be their acquiescence
🤘
Return to power draws near
Dude this is such an insightful video about the intersections and commonalities of music! African rhythms, jazz, polka, metal, Id be so interested to see how other genres of music combine historic rhythms into their music
Lars should try that to a click now too, slow down to 80 bpm til he gets it.
@Kënny Hamiltön Lars has entered the chat.
Vinny Paul uses the bembe beat in the solo section of "Slaughtered"
True thrash beat is when you listening to late Chris witchunter from legendary Sodom..that's really thrash beat..bay area is gene hoglan..DM pete Sandoval for sure, mick Harris for grindcore, his pattern that Napalm Death's trademark.
No one:
This guy:
*”You gotta give credit when credits due”*
5:10 i have heard that beat from the song unholy confessions by avenged sevenfold
Diego Casas yea it’s used in a lot of metalcore
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer yea okay
@@the6ig6adwolf how is A7X not metal?
@@the6ig6adwolf that doesn't even make sense. How does the ability to buy their shirts in malls disqualify them from being metal?
@@the6ig6adwolf they sell Slayer shirts at malls too.
2:41 metallica!!❤️
The machine gun beat from One 🙂
Iron Cobras and Fisherman's Friends both essential.
Iron cobras are a waste of money. You can do anything with a cheap pair of kicks. And if you need something to give you a boost in your speed, get something with compression springs.
Iron cobras are practically useless, given their price, and the cheaper price of better pedals
Dustin Hope
You can do anything with cheaper pedals, true, but that’s like saying that buying a luxury car is pointless because you can buy a cheap one. You aren’t wrong, but it’s a lot nicer to use an iron cobra and they are built to a standard that few pedals match without going over their cost.
@@dustinhope1913 iron cobras are pretty cheap lol
Thank you for the Damon Che / Don Caballero mention! He's a unique force of nature who the drumming community should be aware of.
This white point on the background wall!!!!111
Definitely useful to beats to know for metal. more double bass variation patterns instead of all the blast beats would've been cool to see. Maybe a part 2
I'm 99 percent certain that Vinnie Paul used drum beat #1 in Pantera's song "Slaughtered"
1:26 All In The Family by Mahavishnu Orchestra.
Cobham! Trailblazer !
so glad someone finally acknowledges a polka beat is a polka beat
3:48 Really? What an inspiration!
First beat is also on Gojira - Oroborus but with double bass below it, and starting with the left hand (because it's on the ride, and otherwise you can't play the backbeat on snare with the left hand.
At 1:28 when get up in tempo, it sounds like the middle section to Pantera "Slaughtered". Great stuff!
It is. It's a double paradiddle.
First one is Pete Webber at the start of from the cradle to the grave
Underrated Drummer, really good. Revocation have superb musicianship. Cant recommend them enough.
Man, those metal band names... "Death, Kill, Black Death, Corpse, Brutal Corpse, Black Cruel Corpse, Brutal Autopsy, Mega Corpse Decomposition, ..."
welcome to the world of metal
Andrew Jexel words of someone who hasnt gone into brutal death metal or slam
you get the cringe comment of the video award
Aye, he mentioned Damon Che from Don Caballero! My favourite drummer ever and one of the best drummers to ever sit behind the kit.
These quick Ash lessons are great. Please keep them going Drumeo.
Hammer blast at 190 with the snare hits counting in is the beginning of Pit of Zombies by Cannibal Corpse
is there anything more metal than rimshot snare hits counting out the tempo?
great vid! Searched youtube for "the opeth beat" and this came up, success!! didnt realize it was called the bembe and has afro-cuban origins!!!
One is CLEARLY NUMBER ONE man....!!!
THE iconic.....!!!
Superb shirt. Underrated band. Dave Witte was a monster.
Nice, the double paradiddle is always groovy
Revocation kicks ass.
1:27 Slaughtereeeed
4:20 is just a traditional blast beat
I'm glad someone pointed it out.
I got this funny situation, my neighbor is this 70 something year old drummer. He gets angry any time I even hint at the idea he might not know everything there is to know about drumming. He thinks music stopped when he did, so, around the 70's. I'm a guitarist myself, I know about 16th notes and bomb blasts though, but I wish I could give him a list of all the developments in drumming from the 80s and onward.
We if you think about it, the "grind" beat is just like, a Souza marching drum line with cymbals and bass drum on downs and snares on ups, just really fast.
First one was just a double paradiddle, Jeff Porcaro used it a lot, and chasing
Shadows by deep purple is a double parradiddle on two toms
No it isn't. Bembe is an afro-cuban pattern, RLRLRR LRLRLR. Double paradiddle ends with LRLRLL
hell yeah dude, I'm stealing all of these ~thanks~
Thats awesome, i am working on learning Slaughtered-Pantera at the moment and that first beat is used buy vinnie in the middle groove for that song, thats super cool.
The first one, I've noticed in quite a few Sabaton songs.
Nice to see you wearing a Burnt By The Sun T-shirt! Dave Witte have definitely a lot of iconic drum beats in his arsenal.
Isnt the "Grind" beat a skank or polka then a traditional blast beat?
AND Sweating Bullets at the middle "theme" ;)
When I think of iconic metal beats I instantly think of Lamb of God - Laid to Rest.
Great video. Good instructor
1:27 - From The Cradle To The Grave by Havok
4:13 Slipknot AOV
True
That's T-shirt is like a Freddie Mercury's outfit in "It's a Hard Life"
that first beat was the opening to boys of summer by don henley
the last beat, Dying Fetus, definitely
@1:28 did anyone else hear slaughtered by pantera ?
I’d say punk and hardcore popularized the beat at 3:45 though it definitely started with jazz and blues.
second beat, I heard it first from Dark Angel, Darkness Descends in 1986.
You should've made it 6 Iconic Metal Drum Beats by adding BLAST BEATS.
1:27: Mikkey Dee plays this to the first riff of King Diamond's Welcome Home
Heartbreaking beats.
Opening beat of Kings of the Carnival Creation by Nicholas Barker
Mi favorite Dimmu Song 🤘
All this wicked bands, really liked that line 🤣
Hell yeah Carcass kills
2 things:
1) IIRC the Bembe usually ends on R, not L
2) While he was with Dark Angel, Gene Hoglan actually used the "One" beat before Lars did - check out the title track on their 1986 album Darkness Descends
The first drum beats I thought of when I saw the title of this vid were "Good Friends and a Bottle of Pills" and "Becoming".
Fun fact, the "one" beat was first played by Gene Hoglan on Dark Angel's darkness descends before Lars did it
That thrash poker beat is also used in gospel shout music
Nice Calf, bro 💪
Does anyone know what the HHX crash is on his right? It sounds awesome.
Im struggling with the idea of independence vs interdependence. Which does we really use as drummers?!
4:10 this is regular bit in Serbian weddings songs or I can say orthodox songs :D we have a song called: "Today mother you are marrying your son" and that is the rhythm, but there are many more like that. We also have a lot of Arabic rhythms in the songs, but thank you for explaining this, I'm trying to learn more types of music because one day I'll be better at what I play
If you can make video for your hi hat tech, its amazing :)))
I'm going to write this in english for the sake of other readers, but essentially, that song could be played in 4:13 beat, but it's not, the original song doesn't have drums, and in weddings it's played with a mid tempo disco beat, variating from hi hat to ride. 👍
@@bakerhalt Ur right for original but most time on live performance musicians pla in "dvojka" rythm.
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I can't get the old school thrash beat down. Is it 2 hits on the cymbal to every snare? Or is it alternating?
What about snare bass snare bass bass, with 16th notes on high hat?
Thrash beat is actually punk beat... One of the first I learned some 17-18 years ago. But I always had a problem with fills while playing that beat, always losing the tempo
@3pac son No, it came from Polka. It's a classic Polka beat, go to any Oktoberfest and that's the primary beat behind just about every song. It's either that or Oom Pah Pah. Polka's been around since the 1870s; Ska since the late 1960s so you tell me who came up with it first.
@3pac son Okay, we don't have to get into a big thing with this. If the beat was originated in Polka, all other inspirations of the beat were inspired by Polka. Polka did it first was my point.
Jeez, noobs here... Polka was first, then came punk, then thrash, then crossover thrash, then SKA, ok?! Take a history class...
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS Ska was before punk & metal. Ska originated in the early '60's, 2 Tone didn't invented ska, although they popularized it. And basic ska beat is kick-hat-snare-hat (KRLR) - it's the simplest linear groove
@@markomarkovic5729 Wut? You mean it wasn't started with Mighty Mighty Bosstones and No Doubt in the late 90's??!!
Revocation \m/
I love his work in Revocation, but man does he kill on those 3 Inches of Blood records.
I think the drum intro in Indians is pretty iconic. Charlie Benante is just super underrated, mainly because people always disregard Anthrax for some reason.
The whole heavy metal genre has such cool drummming part, but it's disregarded because most people think it's just noise and satanic or (and that's even worse) the only real music is jazz LOL.
No 1 is a Double paradidle groove
Ash...on...on example three...do you...do you mean a blast beat...?
Is there a metal only drummeo drum course?
No doubt everyone's got their own list but I kinda thought Run To The Hills should make this list.
Very interesting, Thank you Sir.🎼
Please get Matt McGuire in here! He's a beast! He should cover those fast hi-hat strokes. I'd love to see that.
🙌🥁
Nice beat
afro beat metal!!!
What bass pedals do you use?
Dude I saw you at Wacken 2008 playing for 3 Inches of Blood!! You were wearing a The Police t-shirt on stage 😂😂
YES!!!!🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🥁🥁🥁
Now I see where ur learning the paradiddles from...
THRASH METAL & FUN RIFFS
You caught me!🤘🏼🤣🤘🏼
NGL, I'd be interested in seeing a 1930's era Louie Bellson play a blast beat
Time to practice! :D
The second beat made me think about Dethklok...
Land of Randomness If I was straight I’d want Pickles to be my cartoon boyfriend. Drunk gut, Yank accent and all.
Chill and nice👍👍👍
I like he's playing that oldschool chain cobras and does not use direct drives.
Anyone know that Louis Blesson video he mentions?
The first beat is one of the " Chaabi " ( Morrocan rhytms )
4:35 POGO POGO POGO POGO POGO POGO
BOUNCE
My kick drums overpowering as hell do i gotta put a pillow in it
Fuck yeah. Great video