Tom Baker to Doctor Who is the Sean Connery of Bond, he set the standard of the Doctor for me. All after Tom until Eccelstone just didn't work for me, but Chris brought a great version and sad he didn't stick around for more, but then we did get Tennant amd Smith so it sweetened the loss. Loved Torchwood and liked that they did crossovers including Face Of Bo twist, looking forward to seeing how the new guy does as just about to watch episode 3 of the 60th Special.
I think it would've worked, provided that McGann had been wearing something like what Chris Eccleston actually wore. He would've been a very war-beaten Eighth Doctor.
Yea, I can see why RTD wanted to start off with almost a complete clean slate but I also think sticking with Paul McGann could have worked. He would have been a suitably substantial nod to the fans who’d stuck through the wilderness years whilst being charming and fresh enough to engage a new audience, I think the wider audience really couldn’t have cared less about the movie baggage pre-broadcast and would have welcomed McGann just as they did Eccleston. What really irks me is that they made a similar misstep in 2013 by not making Paul the War Doctor cos the suits wanted a “bigger name”. Jesus those types really need shooting.
paul mcgann absolutely should have been the 2005 doctor and/or the war doctor. Eccleston and Hurt are brilliant actors, but they were never The Doctor. Mcgann wouldve worked better. Shouldve been mcgann, then tennant, then capaldi or whittaker, then whittaker or smith, then smith whittaker or capaldi
@@htershaneit’s bs that he quit after his first season so they should of just started with Paul for the season I reckon Paul would of done 3 or 4 seasons what a shame
I remember when Doctor Who was announced to return back in 2004 it was falsely rumoured that Tom Baker would return as The Master. I'm glad it didn't because he didn't make sense unless The Master decided to model his new form after The Fourth Doctor for someone odd reason or The Master went back in time and took The Fourth Doctor's body for his own.
Nice use of _Torchwood_ music and clips. Much as I love Tom Baker, as do we all, I'm very glad we got Christopher Eccleston, and I just wish we'd gotten more of him. (I kind of can imagine Baker telling a Dalek to kill itself -- remember, the Fourth Doctor could get _very_ angry, and when he did it was frightening.)
Tom would have nailed this and made DW bigger than it is but I agree, I think it is a bad idea to bring back former actors to the role as new versions of the Doctor. While anything is possible in DW, I like the idea of the show moving forward. Although I love Matt Smith’s idea of returning as the Master.
Chris Eccleston as a modern, gritty, working class, strong-minded Doctor was just what we needed. Rose Tyler as a very ordinary working class young woman, struggling with real-world problems like job, boyfriend, mom, daily life, was just what we needed for a Comanion. (Jackie too.) Americans might not have the same accents and we have slightly different social / cultural lives and class distinctions, yet we could identify with the Doctor and Rose in their incarnations. Heh, Jackie's reaction to the Doctor was perfect too. -- The Doctor as a man damaged by war or life, yet outraged and wanting good in the world, and also hating Daleks, yet perhaps holding back because he still has principles -- struck a chord, I think. -- I didn't pay much attention to Doctor Who reruns, growing up, but college friends got together to watch the Tom Baker era reruns late Saturday night, and so I got into Doctor Who then. -- So when word spread through fandom that there was going to be a revival, continuation, following from the old classic era to the modern day, in 2005, with modern effects, production values, exciting new plots and character, I was so excited to see what it would be like. Would it be good? And from that first new episode, I was hooked! It was great! Real quality in stories, characters, sets, aliens, effect, music, on and on. And fandom in the US and UK and elsewhere (Australia, Canadian, etc.) loved it. The show just kept growing in fan popularity all through the RTD and Moffat eras. Yes, numbers for viewing had ups and down. Streaming and watching via computer or new recording devices were not always counted. But that's how I was getting Doctor Who too. -- I am so on board for RTD2 and the 60th specials and series 15. And I am so glad they went with Eccleston and Billie Piper. (And I still love the old classic shows.) The new shows also did right with the Doctor regenerating into new actors for David Tennant, Matt Smith, Peter Capaldi. (I still feel Jodie was miscast, and the Chibnall era just somehow missed out on what it should have / could have been.) I'm eager to see where we will go next. Oh, and "still not ginger," haha.
I enjoyed Tom Baker's appearance as the Curator. His Doctor always had a certain quality to him, a sort of fun, glee, a little madness /, and a little spice. I do wonder what he'd bring to a different, returning take on the Doctor at some point later in the Doctor's life, but now we've seen him as the Curator. I don't know if we'll get to see him in the role of the Doctor again. -- I wish we could see Chris Eccleston back for a guest episode, but so far, it looks like that won't happen (unless they have something up their sleeve for some future episode or arc). And I agree, we don't want a gimmicky trope to develop about past Doctors, it needs to be new any time they do appear.
It's things like this that give me a dash of hope that Tennant isnt actualy going to be the 14th Doctor. Wasnt a good idea then to have an old actor be a new incarnation and that imo is still true today. Im hoping what we are seeing in the 60th is all going to be down to some Neil Patrick Harris shenanigans, toying with the Doctor for some as yet unknown reasons and who knows maybe we get a Romana 1 to 2 regenaration where we see multiple the 14th Doctors befor it solidifies on the body he takes into series 14.
THARRIES I went to the who shop in London and one of the workers told me they are releasing pictures of the new sonic this month with the toy coming out next month! Just thought I’d let you know -let’s hope she wasn’t lying!
I do agree with you that they needed the new doctor to start the series however they could have had the 'tom's doctor' be a significant part of the first story or two of the Revival
Well this is an interesting revelation. Make sense in some ways but then I think Billy Piper garnered the interest that was needed as a selling point for the public at large. This emphasis the point again how Billy was key to the phenomenal success of season 1.
Tom was never in Serious considration for S1, way too old, it was Russel basically saying "GOOD IDEA, BOSS!" to some exc at BBC to try get Doctor Who made. At that point , Russel would have said yes to any "suggestions " to put show on air but ultimatly would have went with his and Jane Tranters own casting.
I suppose knowing what we know now, i.e the massive success it was in 2005, it’s easy to overlook the massive gamble they were taking at the time (or thought they were, I always had faith) but the fact someone was trying to steer toward casting Tom Baker again illustrates the sheer moronity of some involved, far too dangerous to be allowed any input into anything other than gardening or cookery programmes maybe.
Tom Baker was our favorite Doctor Who. After the fifth Doctor came, we left the series after that season. Didn’t return until David Tennant, who turned out to be our second favorite. Since then, although the story telling has been great, we got disillusioned with the series after Matt Smith left. #doctorwho60
Tharries I have been looking at the old photos of the 14th doctors sonic and after looking at it’s a single stick and the tip looks like the war doctor but like the 11th doctor sonic it pop open on the sides giving you those extra lights
I think that the best way possible to re release Doctor Who would have been to cast Paul McGann again and re telling his movie in a better way and after that giving him one season.
Even earlier than this idea, it was suggested Troughton could follow Colin Baker for one season before a female Doctor. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Doctor#Casting
One of the big reliefs for me, was that it wasn't like the old series. We'd had that shambling multi-part stories that only began once the Doctor was captured by the Securtiy Chief and accused of the thing that drew him there. I was very glad to see it wasn't a 'costume'. The garish, and outlandish felt tired, and it just wouldn't have felt like we'd embraced the future, instead preferring a zombified revisiting of the best of the past... It's a line in the sand moment... if you actually agree to it. You've already lost. Just feign interest and work to show why it's not a good idea at all!
I love Tom, but I'm glad they went in a new direction instead. It needed to be fresh. It is pushing it w/the 10 return, but not THAT far. It is one thing to be nostalgic for something a lil bit back, but going all the way back to the 70s, to your parent's generation, is a bit much.
They wanted the American dollars to pay for a relaunch of the series! Sylvester McCoy was later sorry that he occupied nearly 20 minutes of that pilot-film which didn't help the new viewers to get into the story ... New Who hit the world running - new doctor - new companions - old foes much, much later: lots of potential between 20th century and 21st century Who!
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You did an incredible job!
@@Tharries thank you! i had a great time editing this.
Tom Baker to Doctor Who is the Sean Connery of Bond, he set the standard of the Doctor for me.
All after Tom until Eccelstone just didn't work for me, but Chris brought a great version and sad he didn't stick around for more, but then we did get Tennant amd Smith so it sweetened the loss.
Loved Torchwood and liked that they did crossovers including Face Of Bo twist, looking forward to seeing how the new guy does as just about to watch episode 3 of the 60th Special.
I wonder what would happen if Paul McGann reprised his role as the Eighth Doctor in Series 1 instead of casting a new actor as the Ninth Doctor
I think it would've worked, provided that McGann had been wearing something like what Chris Eccleston actually wore. He would've been a very war-beaten Eighth Doctor.
Yea, I can see why RTD wanted to start off with almost a complete clean slate but I also think sticking with Paul McGann could have worked. He would have been a suitably substantial nod to the fans who’d stuck through the wilderness years whilst being charming and fresh enough to engage a new audience, I think the wider audience really couldn’t have cared less about the movie baggage pre-broadcast and would have welcomed McGann just as they did Eccleston.
What really irks me is that they made a similar misstep in 2013 by not making Paul the War Doctor cos the suits wanted a “bigger name”. Jesus those types really need shooting.
Paul macgann would of been fantastic!
paul mcgann absolutely should have been the 2005 doctor and/or the war doctor. Eccleston and Hurt are brilliant actors, but they were never The Doctor. Mcgann wouldve worked better. Shouldve been mcgann, then tennant, then capaldi or whittaker, then whittaker or smith, then smith whittaker or capaldi
@@htershaneit’s bs that he quit after his first season so they should of just started with Paul for the season I reckon Paul would of done 3 or 4 seasons what a shame
I remember when Doctor Who was announced to return back in 2004 it was falsely rumoured that Tom Baker would return as The Master. I'm glad it didn't because he didn't make sense unless The Master decided to model his new form after The Fourth Doctor for someone odd reason or The Master went back in time and took The Fourth Doctor's body for his own.
Nice use of _Torchwood_ music and clips. Much as I love Tom Baker, as do we all, I'm very glad we got Christopher Eccleston, and I just wish we'd gotten more of him. (I kind of can imagine Baker telling a Dalek to kill itself -- remember, the Fourth Doctor could get _very_ angry, and when he did it was frightening.)
Tom would have nailed this and made DW bigger than it is but I agree, I think it is a bad idea to bring back former actors to the role as new versions of the Doctor. While anything is possible in DW, I like the idea of the show moving forward. Although I love Matt Smith’s idea of returning as the Master.
Amazing editing! Love this video 💙
hey, thank you! i’m responsible for editing this one so that means a lot! ❤
I love this thank you for uploading this and if tom baker came back in 2005 era it would of been amazing❤
All your vids are so good this is such an interesting concept that I can’t imagine Tom baker as the doctor again???
Ikr it'd be crazy!
@@Tharries although I suppose it might make classic who and new who different cannons or imply the 5th to 8th doctors aren’t canon
Chris Eccleston as a modern, gritty, working class, strong-minded Doctor was just what we needed. Rose Tyler as a very ordinary working class young woman, struggling with real-world problems like job, boyfriend, mom, daily life, was just what we needed for a Comanion. (Jackie too.) Americans might not have the same accents and we have slightly different social / cultural lives and class distinctions, yet we could identify with the Doctor and Rose in their incarnations. Heh, Jackie's reaction to the Doctor was perfect too. -- The Doctor as a man damaged by war or life, yet outraged and wanting good in the world, and also hating Daleks, yet perhaps holding back because he still has principles -- struck a chord, I think. -- I didn't pay much attention to Doctor Who reruns, growing up, but college friends got together to watch the Tom Baker era reruns late Saturday night, and so I got into Doctor Who then. -- So when word spread through fandom that there was going to be a revival, continuation, following from the old classic era to the modern day, in 2005, with modern effects, production values, exciting new plots and character, I was so excited to see what it would be like. Would it be good? And from that first new episode, I was hooked! It was great! Real quality in stories, characters, sets, aliens, effect, music, on and on. And fandom in the US and UK and elsewhere (Australia, Canadian, etc.) loved it. The show just kept growing in fan popularity all through the RTD and Moffat eras. Yes, numbers for viewing had ups and down. Streaming and watching via computer or new recording devices were not always counted. But that's how I was getting Doctor Who too. -- I am so on board for RTD2 and the 60th specials and series 15. And I am so glad they went with Eccleston and Billie Piper. (And I still love the old classic shows.) The new shows also did right with the Doctor regenerating into new actors for David Tennant, Matt Smith, Peter Capaldi. (I still feel Jodie was miscast, and the Chibnall era just somehow missed out on what it should have / could have been.) I'm eager to see where we will go next. Oh, and "still not ginger," haha.
I enjoyed Tom Baker's appearance as the Curator. His Doctor always had a certain quality to him, a sort of fun, glee, a little madness /, and a little spice. I do wonder what he'd bring to a different, returning take on the Doctor at some point later in the Doctor's life, but now we've seen him as the Curator. I don't know if we'll get to see him in the role of the Doctor again. -- I wish we could see Chris Eccleston back for a guest episode, but so far, it looks like that won't happen (unless they have something up their sleeve for some future episode or arc). And I agree, we don't want a gimmicky trope to develop about past Doctors, it needs to be new any time they do appear.
It's things like this that give me a dash of hope that Tennant isnt actualy going to be the 14th Doctor. Wasnt a good idea then to have an old actor be a new incarnation and that imo is still true today. Im hoping what we are seeing in the 60th is all going to be down to some Neil Patrick Harris shenanigans, toying with the Doctor for some as yet unknown reasons and who knows maybe we get a Romana 1 to 2 regenaration where we see multiple the 14th Doctors befor it solidifies on the body he takes into series 14.
Ooh liked the editing on this one 🔥
thanks emily!!
THARRIES I went to the who shop in London and one of the workers told me they are releasing pictures of the new sonic this month with the toy coming out next month! Just thought I’d let you know -let’s hope she wasn’t lying!
I do agree with you that they needed the new doctor to start the series however they could have had the 'tom's doctor' be a significant part of the first story or two of the Revival
Well this is an interesting revelation.
Make sense in some ways but then I think Billy Piper garnered the interest that was needed as a selling point for the public at large.
This emphasis the point again how Billy was key to the phenomenal success of season 1.
Tom was never in Serious considration for S1, way too old, it was Russel basically saying "GOOD IDEA, BOSS!" to some exc at BBC to try get Doctor Who made. At that point , Russel would have said yes to any "suggestions " to put show on air but ultimatly would have went with his and Jane Tranters own casting.
The BBC also wanted Tom Baker to be the 8th doctor instead of Paul McGann in the TV film.
Absolutely
I thought they wanted him to be the Doctor who regenerated into McGann?
I suppose knowing what we know now, i.e the massive success it was in 2005, it’s easy to overlook the massive gamble they were taking at the time (or thought they were, I always had faith) but the fact someone was trying to steer toward casting Tom Baker again illustrates the sheer moronity of some involved, far too dangerous to be allowed any input into anything other than gardening or cookery programmes maybe.
Tom Baker was our favorite Doctor Who. After the fifth Doctor came, we left the series after that season. Didn’t return until David Tennant, who turned out to be our second favorite. Since then, although the story telling has been great, we got disillusioned with the series after Matt Smith left. #doctorwho60
Tharries I have been looking at the old photos of the 14th doctors sonic and after looking at it’s a single stick and the tip looks like the war doctor but like the 11th doctor sonic it pop open on the sides giving you those extra lights
Martin Clunes & Hugh Grant where considered for 9
I swear you have been using that Torchwood sting recently.
I think that the best way possible to re release Doctor Who would have been to cast Paul McGann again and re telling his movie in a better way and after that giving him one season.
How interesting
Mr. Baker is the finest actor in England.
Even earlier than this idea, it was suggested Troughton could follow Colin Baker for one season before a female Doctor. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Doctor#Casting
I can literally imagine this. But I kind of like it.
Well I never knew this 😮
Curator Who has great potential
One of the big reliefs for me, was that it wasn't like the old series. We'd had that shambling multi-part stories that only began once the Doctor was captured by the Securtiy Chief and accused of the thing that drew him there. I was very glad to see it wasn't a 'costume'. The garish, and outlandish felt tired, and it just wouldn't have felt like we'd embraced the future, instead preferring a zombified revisiting of the best of the past...
It's a line in the sand moment... if you actually agree to it. You've already lost. Just feign interest and work to show why it's not a good idea at all!
I love Tom, but I'm glad they went in a new direction instead. It needed to be fresh.
It is pushing it w/the 10 return, but not THAT far. It is one thing to be nostalgic for something a lil bit back, but going all the way back to the 70s, to your parent's generation, is a bit much.
They could have done it in 1993 as the eighth Doctor
They wanted the American dollars to pay for a relaunch of the series! Sylvester McCoy was later sorry that he occupied nearly 20 minutes of that pilot-film which didn't help the new viewers to get into the story ... New Who hit the world running - new doctor - new companions - old foes much, much later: lots of potential between 20th century and 21st century Who!
Dame Judi Dench would have made an amazing Doctor! Or, at the very least, a female regeneration of Rassilon.
if 'What If?" was made by the BBC/ Doctor Who
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