Inside the U.S. Military’s New Drone Warfare School | WSJ
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- Small, inexpensive “off the shelf” drones, like those Ukraine is using against Russia and Hamas is deploying against Israel, are transforming modern warfare. To train American soldiers to counter the threat of civilian drones modified with explosives, the U.S. military recently opened a specialized drone warfare school.
WSJ visited the first academy of its kind, the Joint Counter-small Unmanned Aerial Systems University, that will train about 1,000 troops a year.
Chapters:
0:00 Drone attacks
0:55 The director of the school
3:28 Historical background
4:15 Drones in Ukraine
5:01 Drones in swarms
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This isn’t enough, drone training needs to be implemented at a boot camp level. These things are taking out tanks, helicopters, full squadrons, and when you least expect it and you’re relaxing on base as security detail or transporting supplies
true, such technology should be as standard as a rifle in modern war
It is a little bit. There’s some drone evasion and familiarization
This is literally just a press run
No no no . The trick is to instead counter it instead of produce more . That way no matter how many their are you can prevent them
field controlled drones are like muskets. in the very near future masses of drones will be controlled by AI and remote operators.
Teaching 1000 soldiers a year is too low. It should be more, if not mandatory for all soldiers.
Really is too low, commercial drones are dirt cheap. Imagine Iran or Russia together making hundreds of thousands to millions of drones a year. Even if it takes 100 kamikaze drones to kill one soldier, it could still do significant damage.
Soon Ukraine has loads of experience and expertise and a high bill to pay. Making the perfect instructor export country to all of nato and beyond
Soldiers take knowledge back to their units. You can take infantrymen from various Army divisions and train them and then send them back to their units where they become technique leaders. But yes they need to train more.
I don't think soldiers will be flying drones anyway. They will release AI drones into a target area and they will kill any soldiers in the area. Other AI drones will target enemy drones.
That’s not the real number. Most numbers civilians will consume on TH-cam will be deliberately misleading and usually actuality is much larger or smaller depending on the subject sensitivity
According to recent numbers coming out of the war in Ukraine, each side burns through about ten thousand (10000) drones of every kind (attack, suicide, surveillance, reconnaissance etc) per month. PER MONTH. Drone integration is total at literal squad level. While this is a good first step for adapting to these new conditions, drone warfare training (operation and countering and evading) has to be integrated at boot camp level. Sending a soldier onto the battlefield today without these skills, is like sending a soldier into battle without a helmet and boots.
I agree. The proper response is to fundamentally re-conceive military organization, doctrine and practice. Training some soldiers to shoot balloons hovering in the sky at 200m is like putting a band aid on a hemorrhaging artery.
No, it doesn't. The only reason that drones have been so dominant in Ukraine is because of how new it all is. As time goes on and counter measures get more advanced the use of drones will change dramatically. We have already seen this in Ukraine. The kinds of things that worked in the beginning rarely do anymore, both sides are constantly having to adapt and change how they use drones to keep up with the enemies counter measures. Boot camp is not the place to learn how to fight drones, just like boot camp is not the place where you learn how to fight against tanks or any other kind of equipment. There are specialized schools and training pipelines for all of the military's jobs and it will remain that way with drones because that is what works.
@@bestieswithtesties that's just straight up wrong. While drone tactics are evolving, integration at a unit level is a defacto necessity that over the past 2 years has become even more obvious than early on.
Drones have fundamentally altered everything from as basic things as how you cover positions to how units move across terrain, to realizing when you are being observed to integration with armor and artillery.
"Drone operator" or "counter drone tactics" ARE NOT specialist tasks at this junction anymore. Not anymore than operating a machine gun is.
UAV quad drones will prove to be one of the most effective weapons in the history of warfare
I'd imagine they need to train the guys in the video so they can then take their knowledge and teach soldiers in bootcamp
I remember reading about how the US Marine Corp plan to revamp their infantry squads to include a dedicated drone operator. Could be interesting where they could utilize recon drones and offensive drones at squad level.
The future will be where every squad member gets drones and transmitters and the squad has like 2 rifles on them just in case. These FPV drones are spectacularly effective.
@johnsmithe4656 this doesn't working, look what happening at battlefront in Ukraine
@@thomasalden6263shit, you don't know how to do modern warfare, just loom what happening in Ukraine
I hate to break it to you but conventional forces have been flying small drones at the platoon level since AT LEAST 2008.. I know this first hand. Probably sooner but we had small recon drones while deployed back then. It looked different but same concept.
@@johnsmithe4656 Sadly, you can find the operator through signals emitted by the operator with current technology deployed as seen in Russo-Ukraine war.
Nice to see the USM being smart and staying ahead of the game. Ignoring the drone threat means certain death.
Drones don't appear to be exploding after there shot from the sky. While mutations stay hot ,I'm sure there evolution will involved maximum possible damage if shot down even. This means drones will probably blow up now when they land. Chemcial weapons render shooting them down possible as harmful as letting them attack. Marines need to be ahead of the the head game and have those guns from bubble bobble to capture drones safely
They’re not ahead of anything. Swarms will outmaneuver this by sensing the electro-magnetic changes of the aim point of the “Smart Shooter” and similar optics.
Even before the “Drone Buster” is near its aim point, drones will just de-range themselves until the carrier of the Buster is neutralized.
@@dxpdigital5343how will they neutralize the buster? How will they even know it’s there until the buster starts shooting down drones? How do you know that there will only be one buster? What if there’s multiple?
And thus, a drone vs. dronebuster arms race begins.
@@dxpdigital5343you do know Raytheon already has tech to prevent swarms? There’s alot smarter people that are dealing with this problem trust me
@Arbiter710
Well, there's always an Asian smarter than you. LoL..
The Chinese are wayyy ahead of drones Ai. and manufacturing. mate.
Hv you seen the YT vids where the Ai teach itself to navigate thru a bamboo forest?.where dozens of drones zipping thru individualy without hitting each other n navigating thru the forest.
EW are widely used in Ukraine, that's why tens of thousands drones are lost each month. The main reasons, yr EW also kills ya own.. too.
I was in the quadcopter hobby when it first started up... i knew pretty quickly they would be used as a weapon. Quick, long range, hard to see when flying. Its the most effective weapon there is on the battlefield right now while being extremely cheap
Well to be fair, it’s only cheap because countries have access to the civilian market of goods, in a ww3 situation, the civilian market would vanish, especially the microchip market, making drones wayyyyyy more expensive
@@Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus Jesus is a myth.
That's a complete lie.
Battlefield video games knew before anyone
exactly back in 2010-2014 ish when drone racing was on ESPN lol, we all knew it was only a matter of time before it was weaponized
Drones are like a marriage of indirect fire and air support while remaining extremely economical. It’s gonna be a hard thing to counter.
Drone vs drone.
Both Ukraine and Russia do that. They have hunter seeker drones that take out enemy drones. They have radar drones to guide them. And all of it is triggered with AI assistants
Up close air defense
The challenge and response development is breath-taking. After the drones quickly developed, counter measures were quick to follow.
Not really, we developed and started using drones first over 2 decades ago. The Army has been EXTREMELY slow to respond to the threat.
@@TheCollector1987 The drones used over 20years ago could be shot down by conventional anti air systems such as manpads and spaa. The widespread use of small commercial drones in combat has been a thing for barely longer than 5 years.
U can not fight against 500 000 drones with guns like this, if swarms of drones have AI and anti jamming communication, like Russia do. They kill you and your tanks instantly.
Skynet versus Skynet
@@TheCollector1987 : LOL. You don't know much about the military.
What about the drones you don't see/hear coming? In most attack videos, the soldiers below are completely unaware of the drone above them until it is too late to react. What they need is a mobile, early detection device for small drones. Drones are the new IED mines, if you ask me.
They will probably have something for that
There was some news about acoustic and radio warning systems. Of course it'll mean we get a race against stealth drones but cost is a factor so heh.
From my understanding detection is not a huge problem. The cheaper drones have larger radar cross-sections and can be detected using small mobile radars (small enough to fit on a standard camera tripod). Bigger, more expensive drones may have better stealth abilities but their price largely prevents them from being used on mass in swarms.
@@null-dev even still stealth is pushing it far there meant to be cheap
Also short range Infrared Search and Track systems can detect and track small drones along with Lidar systems.
I don't see any of this training being effective against evasive drones flying at you at 75 mph laden with explosives
...that you only hear 0.5 second before its too late, if ever.
was just about to say this usually when you know a drone is near you its already too late
It's not the only anti-drone kit out there, just the stuff they're showing to the public
The Dronebuster cuts the operator's command and control of the drone while also eliminating their video feed. It stops drones from several kilometers away. What you are seeing in this highly curated video is only the tip of our CUAS technology.
@@jean-francoisasselin3967This is why drone radars should become the new meta to help alert
Hard to imagine a infantry squad without a drone specialist now attached. The threat is now as deadly from above as below and what structurally worked in previous conflicts is already becoming obsolete.
You guys should really test Chinese military capability. I mean you never knew what they are hiding behind.
Hard to imagine anyone listening to what you have to say.
drone piloting and building is compulsory in Ukrainian high schools it hog warts for loitering munitions
Small FPV drones are very maneuverable, smart shooter is a token response. Dominance over the electromagnetic spectrum is a better option i.e. jamming the drone controller's frequency or GPS.
for right now that is an option...but the move to semi autonomous and full autonomous drone systems renders most jamming defense redundant..we're already seeing drones that switch to autonomous targeting for the end stage of an attack, with fully autonomous systems likely to see the battlefield within the next few years...such is the power of these systems against conventional defenses its pretty much inevitable at this point that drones that no longer need operator control are going to emerge.
@@johntowers1213 objectively false, high end EW Systems can completely disable drones not just jam signals. Prighozin said in an interview that Drone Swarms overwhelmed Wagner Assault Squads but concentrated EW Assets simply prevent that from becoming too overwhelming.
@@johntowers1213the disposable kamikaze drones aren't as sophisticated. They're directly controlled and don't have autopilot. EW is still useful
You are right but there is a way to still disable autonomous drones via frying their electronics with microwaves systems like Epirus Leonidas and many other systems can be used besides short range missiles or lasers but where the microwave beam systems shines is the ability to fry swarms of drones when pointed at its beam.@@johntowers1213
@@MaaveMaave Only for the moment. Ukraine is already experimenting with autonomous terminal guidance, and the US has had the AGM-65 Maverick since the 70s. Avoiding jamming is a solved problem. The anti-drone solution also has to have some autonomy but be kinetic -- basically a machine gun sentry. The US already has C-RAM, we just need to make it small, light, cheap, and ubiquitous.
so the jammer is ineffective against any purpose built drone. and the gun optic is useless because by the time you notice a drone and can see it and aim. it's most likely already full japanese
Glad we have these folks being smart and protecting us! Thank you for your service!!
They're aren't protecting us, they're robbing us to protect Ukraine.
More like thank you for your hard earned tax dollars 😂
Protecting us from what? It is the US who is attacking other nations not the other way around!
protecting us from what? 🙄
@@Happyfor96 my comment critizising USA was deleted
This is such a critical area of work for our boys. I hope we continue to build this out and appropriately integrate it into our capabilities quickly.
Seeing the footage coming out of Ukraine has been brutal and disturbing. These guys on both sides have no idea when a small, 500$ death machine is flying over their head. I cant imagine the psychological effect of not knowing when a fragmentation bomb could drop on you from above.
"I cant imagine the psychological effect of not knowing when a fragmentation bomb could drop on you from above."
You mean the same thing that soldiers have been grappling with ever since WW1? I don't see much of a difference between a drone-dropped grenade, or an artillery shell landing from above.
There is huge difference. Soldiers say artillery shells are game of chance but drones are guided and there is no chance.
There is no chance for obsolete NATO forces.
did you see the Russian on a motor bike being chased down like a sci fi movie no chance of escape
Those things are nightmares. Rarely can you escape from them.
The FPV drones at least in Ukraine are not 500$ More like 15$ max. they are 3d printed with a very cheap 10$ board and an RPG munition.
You gotta train on cheap fpv drones that are being piloted and moving. The smart shooter optic seems kind of like a dud that only works on stationary-ish objects, but perhaps a completely automated system that can try to predict drones movement path and electronically aim a rifle/turret, similar to real AA, would be the way. If it could use bullets it would be cost effective
Seems like the most cost effective way would be a mini version of what they use now against airplanes. Radar that can detect incoming drones and AA guns that shoot .22 round ammo since it is very cheap and would be more than enough to take out any retail drone sold.
@@kb9826 For the most part I agree with your suggestion. Lasers and counter swarms are some of the most effective weapons against enemy swarms, but both have their limitations. For drone defense of ground systems an affordable kinetic option is good to have. However, .22LR is inflexible in that it's ineffective against anything larger, for example soldiers with any level of body armor. Just like the 120mm on the Abrams has a canister round, you could have a 30mm cannon (or long-barreled 40mm grenade launcher) capable of using cannister rounds against drones at close range and air-burst fragmentation rounds against drones at long range.
You can't predict where an FPV drone is going to go, other than it needs to be at a certain place at a certain time to effect it's target. But there can be many places it can effect its target from and FPV pilots just love flippy floppies (jinking).
There's no reason purpose built FPV drones could not be built to fly more randomly - sure DJI drones designed for cinemetatic footage fly smooth relatively easy to predict paths, but there's not reason a drone can't be programmed to fly evasevily.
I don't think we have really seen the best of FPV drones yet. FPV drones can conceptually be flown very tacticially - like a helicopter flying nap of earth, but a helicopter can't really fly nap of earth - not the way and FPV drone can.
And FPV drone can do things like fly in a creek bed a couple of feet below the top of the bank for example.
Its not totally easy to do that with a human pilot due to technical reasons, but if you place the pilot's control radio in the right place it's totally possible to do.
It would also be fairly easy to do with GPS guidance - i.e. autonomous flying for the parts of the mission where there is no line of sight to the control station.
Not gonna give away much info, but I've flown some targets and I can tell you it doesn't really make much of a difference.
@@JWQweqOPDH Been thinking recently that drones might require an entirely new weapon system to counter effectively. Donno about SmartShooter but I suspect the jamming gun won't be effective once the drones are fully autonomous/using onboard guidance (like a Shahed during it's last 10% iirc), which competitive pressures will push them to be. As you implied, the dilemma is that drones don't require a man-sized round and in fact they're tough to hit as an unaided rifleman, but carrying a small drone-sized round along with a system that can hit them more easily (maybe automatically) takes up weight that's useless against personnel.
If drones _really_ become ubiquitous in warfare that weight sacrifice might be worthwhile to have a specialized anti-drone weapon system, at least for someone in the squad. But for now we're stuck trying to adapt current weapon systems to tackle drones (like Smartshooter).
Having a drone augment each soldier, with assault, recon and defensive capabilities is a necessity of the future battlefield. We need to be much more aggressive in this push.
Yes
O boy, you sound so cool and tough. You must surly know what you're talking about.
Those drone busters are pretty cool. A buddy of mine killed the WiFi in our barracks with it. Lol
Against low numbers of very low-flying, slow moving recon drones in spectacular conditions and visibility, might be useful. Against suicide drones, no chance.
Although many countries have military drones, I don’t think anyone knew exactly how game changing they would be in warfare….they have completely changed the landscape of conventional war. Rest assured USA will do everything to be on top of drone technology. 🇺🇸
I did. But that's b/c I'm smarter than everyone. But your right in everything else you said. Good job average human.
how do you rest assured? US will create a top drone company like DJI of China?
@@cathie3874are you joking?
The USA knew since 1999 with the predator drone .
@@cathie3874yeah it’s called Raytheon and we already have it .
That MRAP with the mounted jammer is probably the smartest thing, cause most times you don't see an incoming drone till it's too late. Every infantry squad should have one of those, or a portable one you can deploy anywhere you are.
It will be obsolete before it is ever used in the field. Autonomous drones cant be jammed. Just like you cant jam a land mine. Little tensor chips the size of an SD card can give it internal fly by camera abilities with no need for external signals not even gps.
@@zyxwvutsrqponmlkh this is very true but autonomous drones won’t be widespread for a while unless we suddenly start fighting real opponents like China. It’s the fact that jammers are not fundamentally sound weapons which makes them not impressive. They’re a temporary hack
@@zyxwvutsrqponmlkh If that's true, then how do they know where to go once launched? They just fly in a random pattern? You program a location you want it to fly to and hope the target doesn't move? I mean I don't know too much about the technology but without GPS it doesn't sound all to feaseable. Also, aren't there technology already that can completey shut down drones without even having to jam signals?
It’s true there is all kind of high lvl math that can make it so the drone knows where to go despite having no gps
@@connorallgood0922 They can use flight planning, image recognition, or any form of artificial intelligence. Once you've paid the base cost of putting a general purpose computer chip onto it there's no reason not to put an AI system on it. But that has to be developed first
Most drones are already near their target once they've been jammed by a handheld weapon like this
Interesting video, definitely unique to see drone swarms and how advanced they will become before this decade is over
i bet we will see it in ukraine
Great video. Looks like it purposely doesn’t show the larger systems they are training on; probably for good reasons. Smart shooter and drone buster are only handheld options for limited use. Can’t wait to see what else they are training on.
FPV quad drones will prove to be one of the most effective weapons in the history of warfare
War is always changing with technology insane. Love your channel. Keep up the great work
War never changes
Dude seems capable and humble.
This was super interesting, thanks!
I love how the instructor explains how the weapons are used. For the Smart Shooter scope: "So the soldier puts it into operation the same way they do for any other situation. From that point there, you would look through the optic, which would acquire the target for you, at which case the soldier would pull the trigger, and the rest of it is done by the weapons system." Here's how he explains the Drone Buster: "This is known as an electronic attack system. So the soldier takes this here, and points it in the general direction of the target that they see, and then the soldier would place it in operation, and utilize various jamming means to, uh, interdict that target."
" ...and the rest of it is done by the weapons system."
@@libiroli It's basically TrackingPoint's smart tracking scope from the Precision Guided Firearms System that they debuted back in SHOT Show 2013. Once the scope locks on to a target, it'll continue to track the target within its reticle while it's calculating the firing solution. The shooter can go ahead and squeeze the trigger, but The hammer won't drop until the target is inside the bull's eye.
Yes, the US Army bought some TrackingPoint FCS back in 2014. This is probably the result.
@@RavenAdventwings Very helpful. Thank you.
Funny how the tutorial itself makes him seem redundant.
@@RavenAdventwings Thank you. Im so confused why they couldnt just explain this in the video
US has the opportunity to advance its Defence systems and test them IRL and that’s the biggest advantage of the war in Ukraine for US.
The US, because of money will not adopt an effective anti-UAS or budget UAS system. What's stopping the US from making slightly more advanced versions of the drones being used in Ukraine and intergrate them into the combat software system they use? Because that's not where all the money is. The US will end up acting stupid by allowing several attacks by UAVs on American bases then the media will go into hysteria mode and convince everyone that we need another 10 billion dollar project so it can end up being cancelled for no reason. The US historically has only produced good weapon systems when they were in conflict or when they actually needed them. Example: MRAP program saved thousands of soldiers lives but not being in the middle east could've saved more lives.
so does Russia and Iran
Ukraine is the New test site for american defense contractors
FTFY: ALL DEFENSE CONTRACTORS WORLDWIDE. The biggest war racket is about to begin. @@bravosix66
@@joespowerlifting1631 like what? Decades old equipment and tech? 😂 They aren't testing Jack.
Outstanding video, thanks for sharing! 👍
Soo much has changed that’s crazy 😳👍🏼🇺🇸
Excellent! A large-scale integration with resolution radar technologies would make these platforms even more effective. Drones are after all fairly ubiquitous. It only makes sense to be sure that U.S. personnel are well-equipped to handle such threats.
I think the problem is radar cross section and detectability of the small drones is minimal..
@@gawkthimm6030
Granted. Maybe not using "traditional" radar systems. But there are other related technologies that could be used. Point is, detecting these drones is absolutely imperative. They are not often easily seen and hence pose an extreme threat to soldiers on the field. If detected early on there is obviously going to be a much better chance that they will be destroyed before reaching their target.
@@jaegar2004 BS. Few drones simultaneously and your gepard is out of ammo. The next one burns it.
@@gawkthimm6030 Minimal, but perfectly reasonable. The ones commonly used today average between like 0.1-0.01 m^2. A common bird / SR-71 (publicly) is ~0.01 m^2. Modern US stealth aircraft are way lower than that.
DGI be like: "Welp our drones are turned to weapons, get in loads of lawyers to deal with this.".
dji was used earlier on but ukraine engineers realized the needed something more customizable thats when it went full on mad max
Thank you
Good work
u need drone in every sqaud/unit. Drone operator by 1/30 soldiers. All offensive groups should have 2 operators of FPV + drone up there to see all around...
Yeah, every squad needs to have a scout drone. Imagine if all squads let out a small drone with a camera during combat.
They could cover a large area and basically have a live map of the war space. Then they could have people in command letting soldiers know what's happening around them at all times.
We need to develop ways to mass manufacture fpv drones.
We're not allowed to produce an effective and cheap weapon system, it's one or the other for American corruption
In Ukraine and Russia FPV are assembled from mostly chinese components in thousands right into abandoned warehouses and even plants, by untrained workers en masse
Buying them from Iran and China doesn't count I bet 😅
You mean like the big factories in China?
They already do that in China, I can imagine if China wants they could probably make 10 mil (*or more) drones per month. Actually I think it's already "game over" for everybody else... it seems China is just benevolent for now... or they didn't realize the real potential. And a jammer can be easily hit with a drone, just make the drone use the jammer signal as a homing signal, basically make a specialized anti radar drone. All these "jamming weapons" can be easily overcome. The only "salvation" from drones are more drones on your side, nothing else.
Wait until you see 10,000 drones flying at your aircraft carrier
Thank you to everyone who serves.
Once they figure out drone swarms it will be over for infantry on the ground.
It's not going to be soldiers vs drones, it will be drones vs drones. Drones are like an air force. They will always be present and dominate the battlefield. Unlike conventional air force, drones can replace soldiers by entering buildings, gathering Intel etc. the job of soldiers will be to deploy drones.
War does not happen without boots on the ground. It will always be soldiers vs something.
good luck tryna get people in the Military in 4 years 😂 kids getting softer and softer now a days everyone wanna be rich fast not sell their soul
same told bout tanks. Soldier life is always cheaper.
@@AlexanderDoHcKou except an drone is way cheaper then an tank, or an human life,
@@failtolawl did you not read? "the job of soldiers will be to deploy drones."
Weve been training this for centuries bring out the clay pidgeons!
You probably need frag round with automatic timer and a laser range finder with AI to get the distance of the target. The set up used here is good only for stationary drones.
Militaries are often good at training towards a stated objective. Training objectives seldom replicate battlefield conditions.
Good point. I wonder if this Army drone school plans to invite some Ukrainians to advise/teach. They have far more practical experience than anybody else at this point.
I wonder what color stationary balloons Russia is attacking Ukraine with.
Neither of these solutions will deal with FPVs, which Ukraine has moved to for 90% of attacks
The Dronebuster passively detects drones from several kilometers away. In jamming mode, it cuts the operator's command and control (including video feed) to the drone. Essentially, it takes control of the drone and the operator loses all control. So it is a perfectly viable solution to the FPV threat.
@@joelwright1822 idk about that one but most of those guns the west gave Ukraine and the ones RU developed are specifically targeted for DJI type drones with specific radio commands you can hijack, analog FPV drones operate on a much simpler radio and sfuff like fooling it to automatically land isn't possible. The only solution is to block the entire radio frequency and a) hope it's not band hopping and b) this EW doesn't disrupt radios and other stuff being used by your own crew.
It's far from a proper solution
@@joelwright1822 Until they start to use encrypted radio frequencies.
Sir, why am i pointing an oversized Lunch Box at Drones?
I don't think my Tuekey and Swiss has any affect on it sir...😅
Number one drone producer in the.world has demonstrated incredible feats with drone swarms… for things like nighttime light shows. It is amazing. Look into it.
That Colonel definitely also has movie star potential. Just sayin'.
Good thing all of the suicide drones just sit in the open and watch you for 20 mins before engaging...
I wonder how the drone counter measures would do against an fpv freestyle or racing drone that can more far more unconventional that a standard consumer drone.
how long until you'll need to have a background check and to register the drones?
ukraine are 3d printing drones background cheack are useless
Thank goodness we are doing this and working on the swarm problem. Way better use of defense dollars than aircraft carriers - the winning tech from 80 years ago. Hopefully we have an offensive plan with drone swarms too
Carriers and Drone have two completely different uses. Expensive, certainly, but they have power projection capabilities that no other asset can feasibly provide.
Air craft carries is a deterrent . If it outside of your border . They can easily strike your country
Drones may be cheap but they can also be shot down easily and can only carry 1 or a few bombs to just target select individuals. Airbombings can kill thousands of people in an instant. Use some head logic please. Comparing the two is like comparing a cat to a tiger
Aircraft carriers aren't outdated. It's literally a fundamental component of international logistics. As Trump demonstrated, the enemy military power means nothing if you can halt a country's commerce or supplies. It forces them to come to the table from a blockade alone.
they aren't outdated till the first one gets sunk by a fleet of cheap Drone boats@@DaveSmith-cp5kj its an incredibly powerful piece of kit, but is also utterly reliant on perfect defense coverage..and the new generation of autonomous drones is so cheap as to make the failure of that coverage an eventual inevitability should it ever find itself under attack
look at it this way the USS Gerald R. Ford cost around 13 billion, and you can put in the water a sea drone capable of putting a hole in its hull for under 50 thousand, which dramatically lowers the cost and increases the likely hood of a successful attack for an opponent that previously had little to no way to attack that class of vessel.
The aircraft carrier is'nt redundant yet, but lets not forget its not been involved in a proper navel battle since the end of the second world war either...and an awful lot has changed since then..
Fascinating insight from WSJ! The U.S. Military’s new Drone Warfare School is at the forefront of shaping the future of military strategy. Precision and innovation in drone technology are undeniably the next frontier.
i would argue ukraine is
The video only covered defense from drones; how about offense? Is there a FPV drone school, procurement program, etc.?
Love this
" We are going to train as many soldiers as possible" "They are going to train 1000 soldiers a year" "" It's harder to shoot a brightly coloured balloon than a drone that's probably the same core as the sky or the clouds... Do they actually read what they write before publishing it
Good point. The balloons should have been much smaller and the color of the sky (definitely not red/yellow).
But then we'd have learned that their auto-aim only works on bright red balloon.
Good stuff
You would think that any drone used for military purposes would have a failsafe to do something autonomous in the event of loss of signal or jamming. Like home in on the jammer and bomb that or something. Off the shelf drones would not do that but it should be pretty easy for a military operation to create their own versions of the firmware. Take out the DGI firmware and replace it with your own military stuff. Yes, that would take some technical knowledge but that would be done at the depot level so the soldiers would not need to even be aware of the modifications.
Modern Warfare 💯
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The drone company is named DJI not DGI.
Wow this is super interesting!
Very good ;)
I have watched a lot of videos of drone attacks on reddit. No offensive to the US military leadership, but I have to question how effective use of small arms to interdict these things really is.
The US should be more involved in Ukraine to learn the actual truth about this "new" form of warfare.
Depending on the type of drones, Ukraine also uses the mass of small arms and machine guns (akin to WW2 air lookout) with looks out to counter certain types of drones with quite good effectiveness so this is directly one-to-one from Ukrainian. Of course, there are other types of drones such as FPV drones which require other approaches and weapons to counter in a layer defense as said in videos like lasers or microwaves which US armed forces also fielding.
Well SMART sight is a ballastic computer that only fires when it's absolutely sure of impact on target so in terms of class 1 drones, small arms in mass are very effective. I mean, an AH-64 almost got shot down by mass AK rifles
lol you think your ahead of CIA etc from watching Reddit clips that they’ve seen probably way before you😂😂😂 And you’d be foolish to think US doesn’t have sec ops in Ukraine.
Does the US always have to expose what they are doing? Like I am all for this, but does this info always have to go out in the public? Doesn't this give other countries ideas to just do the same and knowledge about what we're up to?
This is probably just what they want everyone to know about. I am sure they are doing more than training individuals to shoot balloons.
The US isnt showing off any sensitive information and its not like countries around the world aren't already lookong for ways to defend against drones or them for attack.
😂😂you think these videos are revealing anything… this is public information. Also It’s going to be taught to all soldiers so word will get out anyway. 😅 real secret information won’t just have TH-cam videos…..
This is the most basic level of training i would expect after 2 years of very rapid development of drone warfare in Ukraine. There are no secret tactics and weapons shown here. 😂
@@whatsgoingon71agreed. We know for a fact that they are training on bigger systems but withheld it from this interview. Good points.
This is needs to be operated everywhere especially in basic training and expanded.
Also, many COD players, especially in the B02 era knew all this drone stuff was coming and game-changing, I was calling in swarm kill streaks and rovers over 10 years ago
the new drone swarm is even worse
With all of the drone warfare going on in Ukraine, any military would be crazy not to invest in drone warfare
Why not just use a radar-guided machine gun (like the german gepard) but on a small scale (mounted on a truck)? We also have AI for image processing and target acquisition, maybe you don’t even need radar for this
Drones may be cheap but bullets are even cheaper
Because some areas may not allow vehicles to travel or maybe because its easier for a squad to maneuver on foot
It's almost impossible to tell if the radar blip is a Walmart drone with a grenade or a bird.
@@OmegaF77 we are in the AI era, there should be an overcome to this
Electronic jamming holds a lot of promise - presumably range is the issue, but like any tech I expect that they will build a better mousetrap.
a lot of promise until the autonomy of the drone increases..for now you are correct of course, but were spitting distance at this point from the next generation of cheap semi and fully autonomous drones that rely on little to no human direction once targeting instructions are set..
were already seeing basic semi autonomous systems in this conflict that switch over to onboard targeting for the final attack run to get past local jamming..
FPV enthusiasts bout to get spammed with messages from their local recruiter
Clowns. Holding myself out as an SME in ADA. Not SCALABLE in industrial capacity context, nor at a price-point to field to entire force, where the FLOT NEED to engage early. Question the TAA done in DOTMLFP-F. Meh.
What US and western high tech air defense systems doing in ukrain🤡
Please read enough - you might see the opportunity to self correct your statement. Peace. 😎
That Optic is looking mighty like the Cyberpunk 2077 smartgun optics.
Can someone explain how the smart optics actually work when acquiring the target and what that actually entails?
This is a waste of money. Not one trans non sis gender soldier.
What’s the attrs code, how do you volunteer to attend if your in the army.
It's like manhacks and swarm drones in modern warfare and hl2 respectively.
crazy it's coming true
To defeat this problem effectively you’ll need R2d2. Straight up.
Maybe a system where there helmets can detect drones and there bags carry a mini multi firing system that takes out the drone automatically.
Or if that’s not realistic then have every squad bring a mini iron dome type system that’s attached to a vehicle or that’s on the back of a quad that can be brought along in tight quarters.
I remember seeing a TH-cam video about 6 years ago of a quad copter dropping a kinetic shaped weight on a junk car. Gravity sure makes tossing a rock more powerful 500ft above the target.
I'm surprised L-MADIS, Coyote 2 interceptor drone, Lattice counter drone system, Roadrunner and Roadrunner-M weren't mentioned.
I still don't understand what the "Smart Shooter" optics do.... He didn't explained it well
What would the rate title be for this new training?
Thank you military for taking drones seriously. Drone defense systems should be used and be deployed everywhere. We need more technology
make a mortar sized round that gives off an EMP pulse and shrapnel.
About time
Good fun in the army
The way to prevent drone is to have every armed forces member wear a watch like technology in their wrist which could then alert a possible drone threat via a radar covering certain radius in the battlefield. Which then leads the team to deploy the type of weapons that needs to be used to kill it. A big drone could be shot down by a missile, and the smaller one after that be shot down by manpads and the much smaller ones like those DJI mavics be killed smart guns that plays a dual role of a regular gun or drone busting gun with a switch that can alternate between two systems depending on need.
Drone buster needs to be automated and put on tanks like the phalanx for ships.
Consider Unmanned Land and Water vehicles too.
Beautiful. I am glad that our Country America is engaged in training every branch in our defense to use a multilayer approach in dealing with the modern day drone warfare.
Awesome
They should have the drones flying the balloons in some dive/attack patterns around if they really want to drill muscle memory. The kamikaze ones are stupidly fast, maneuverable, and small
Back to back
Why aren't they talking about Radio Frequency Jammers?
Winds come sweeping down the plains. Yeah I live between Loco and Ringling Oklahoma
having a bird view is a lots of advantage. when comes to war, even I'm a civilian I would like to enter on this squad.
“Righteous Strike” Milley
They should create a Mini SeaRAM with birdshot.
Thank god we are adapting so fast, great to see we are still on top of it.