Here's the thing though; you can pick almost any industry and you'll see the same trend. We've got major problems with industry consolidation in the West and no one recognizes it. It's just not healthy for capitalism to be run by oligopolies, for our politics, and aspects of cultural life.
Smaller companies are typically selling their products to one of the primes. The process for contracting is so complex that a small company essentially can't get a contract for defense by itself.
Cost plus incentive contracts are supposed to transition to competitively bid fixed price contracts. This is only practical if the product is produced in large numbers and License to several manufacturers or there is a competing product (eg F-16 vs F-17/18) etc. Politics then comes in. Plants need to be kept open in certain congressman's electorate for instance and of course the voters and workers there do need stability.
Elon Musk in Silicone disguise 🥸 aka Skirgailia 666,, aka not so Lucky. “I” just saw you leaving the Dalhart airport dressed in drag as a 50 year old woman w/black curly hair with white blouse.
The main issue is that the big expensive contracts are heavily geared towards jobs creation and not military effectiveness. If your product doesn’t require significant labor to create, it will be difficult to get congressional support, with is usually predicated on funneling money into powerful districts.
@@Khuroshe is talking bout how the defense contractors influence congress through job creation and manufacturing. It will be hard for them to influence congress to vote in law that are in thier best interest, because they don’t have the same leverage as other big contractors.
@@Khurosthats how things work in congress. Even NASA has to spend more money building rockets so that more states can get a piece of the $ spent on building the rockets. Politicians in congress create waste in government spending to please businesses and workers in their states in the name of creating jobs and boosting their states' economy.
@@shafthespaceeggmaybe, but they are incentivized to protect their market (to put lightly), can't have everyone be healthy, that won't generate profits.. it's like the tinder mechanics, it's not in their profit for you to find long lasting love, it's better for them to keep people coming
This is exactly what the defense industry needs - defense companies taking enough interest in their products to spend more on their projects than the government does - or even funding them alone if they don't get a contract to build it.
Probably more like fat subscription fees later on for the software that is needed to use the equipment they paid extra for (think that drone helicopter) to have access to that system’s effectiveness just like the “tech model.”
If Anduril is smart, they'll also do a lot of research into anti-drone weaponry, so either they can harden their drones against it or sell that tech themselves. If they don't, they're liable to see their market dry up due to somebody else perfecting directed energy weapons, or something like that. Drone defenses have evolved in Ukraine just as fast as drone usage.
@@Almost3331 Yeah, but the problem here is that anything which is small and needs to fly (and thus presumably has little armor) is a prime target for laser weaponry. That one doesn't get as much press, but lasers have been evolving incredibly rapidly as well. Before the 90s everyone thought lasers would be limited to small gas-powered applications, then after the 90s chemical lasers were the most we could do, then solid-state electronics matured and now we have better lasers, and by 2020 even better fiber lasers started to get around.
If the war in Ukraine has taught us anything it's that tanks, ships, aircraft are all too easy to destroy with modern systems and buying/maintaining them may not be worth the cost. Low cost, destructive and high quantity systems are a genius way to fight modern wars.
@@mythbuster6126 Nuclear just eliminates everyone from the war and acutely focuses them on the business of trying to conserve what's left of their ability to sustain themselves. Nuclear isn't for fighting wars, it's for demotivating the participants and, likely, all of their neighbors.
Anduril should go apply their trade in Ukraine as a proof of concept experiment. Go win the war, prove yourself, become the defence company of the future.
Andúril, also called the Flame of the West and the Sword Reforged, was the sword which was reforged from the shards of Narsil in Rivendell. Who else thought of Tolkien verse and LOTR when you saw the word Anduril?
"That's kind of one of the coolest things about autonomous systems, not nacessarily the fact that they can think faster or do better than a person, but they can also just throw away their lives" - Pamer Luckey
@@BasedTruthSeeker Considering such super sonic vehicles like jets can cost tens of thousands per flight hour, paying 2,000 or even 200,000 a month per something like that might be preferable.
Moneyball Military-a massive arsenal of smaller, lower-cost, autonomous systems that can be generated over the next few years, fielded rapidly and at scale to US forces, and transferred in large numbers to our allies and partners. This would also require the generation of an alternative industrial base to produce at scale what would essentially be commercially derived, consumable weapon systems. and the digital means of connecting them into a military version of the Internet of Things.
And like factoring in the value for “goodwill” in accounting for investments (usually social cause related), the value if an individual’s life, both in dollars lost (training, etc.) and in war edfort morale, is difficult to calculate but autonomous AI driven drone systems eliminate a huge portion of that portion of the sacrifices necessary for victory. There are A LOT of potential dangers with a system like that (like an enemy utilizing cyberattacks to turn your entire fleet against you simultaneously), but allowing yourself to be surpassed in that realm out of fear for the unknown is a recipe for disaster. I hope this company eats everyone’s lunch or forces them to innovate intensely.
Yes, but there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. If the other side is using smart and fast systems, you have to counter with your own, because humans can't react fast enough.
"I think that it's our responsibility to figure out how to use AI responsibly to MAXIMIZE the amount of pain we inflict on the bad guys." -Palmer Lucky, "Honestly" podcast, 2024.
"Perilous to us all are the devices of an art deeper than we possess ourselves." Tolkien, not a pacifist, would've likely **hated** this deeply inappropriate use of the name Andúril, meaning Flame of the West. AI devices complicate war ethically, and I'm certain there aren't many philosophers currently working at Anduril . . . a more fitting name would've been Grond, which was Morgoth's mace.
Good point they can use these drones to fly through the air space to really see what’s in the Antarctic but no they rather develop These things for nefarious uses
This is genius. But it will eventually become part of one of the big defense contractors. And if they don't sell out, the big guys will throw a ton of money into developing similar systems. I would imagine they are already in the works at LMT, RTX, BA, NOC, GD, and more. They all see how the cheap drones are able to inflict damage on ships and equpment hundreds or even thousands times more expensive. The art of war is constantly changing.
The other primes can make similar systems. The difference is that they are reliant on the contracting model which doesn’t incentivize efficient business. Anduril develops products on their own time and money, and then goes to sell it to the government. So they have every incentive to do things well
@@Ragnar707 doesn't matter, LM is 10x bigger and has been in the industry so long now that it's essentially integrated into heart of the DOD. This isn't the tech world where some new startup will revolutionize the future, all the systems that Anduril can produce, LM can produce twice as fast.
to further add onto my point, it seems that anduril is in the typical contractor phase where their ambitions outpace their experience. I've experienced it personally when I've worked with R&D eggheads numerous times testing out some new system for them where they don't understand why I can't instantly see all enemies in an area on thermal sights with a drone when they clearly predicted that it would be incredibly easy to do so without actually understanding how PID works.
@@3User LM cannot produce things twice as fast. Traditional defense contractors produce things ten times as slowly. It's so ingrained in their culture that it would be impossible to fix. Small companies have the speed advantage and that is even more true in the defense space.
YES! I pitched some things in an RFP a few years back in the defense space. Was shocked that everyone else came in so much more expensive with their offerings until I understood the cost + dynamic and that there are laws limiting your overall profit margin. Why does the DoD care what my profit margin is if my product is better, and I cost 1/5th the other offers to do the job better?
@@marcusoutdoors4999 can you point to an attitude or quote from her in this video where you would have also said that about a man? I mean the CEO was wearing a Return of the Jedi-themed Hawaii shirt featuring Ewoks and yet you're commenting on her attire and questioning whether to take her seriously?
I would absolutely say that about a man who was for example dressing up as Neo. It’s worth looking at her bio, a typical academic who has delivered little or nothing of value, and has engaged in questionable work in light of the Twitter files. As for the flowery shirt and the ill advised facial hair, I’m guessing that it is a useful distraction from the fact that he’s deploying his massive genius in creating weapons of death. But I’m OK with both his attire and his work as it is sadly necessary work. @@chirstophersjohnson
It's a good question. One way the US is developing its military to counter China's lots-of-boats-and-rockets strategy is to rely more on powerful but small, numerous squads of marines with lots of drone & tool capabilities. Imagine if you can use a squad of marines & drones with a singular boat to take out a destroyer? That's the way our military is drifting for seaborne combat. Marines have figured out how to launch cruise missiles from trucks recently, so the decentralized punch approach is trending strongly.
Not with a tech sector approach … tech sector has been incredibly wasteful and is literally awful when it comes to finance, remember Oculus got major of its funding/tech from HTC and Valve. The tech sector business model is awful, what’s needed is for monopolies to be broken up is all and for European / Japanese / Korean / Australian companies to be allowed to work with the USA easier.
Why would we let Europe Korea and Australia work with us? Their technology is LOW TECH and they're decades and decades behind. We don't need to work with them. We simply need to unleash American innovation. It is the people of the United States that make this country so great. If we simply unleash our own people, we will be able to produce new things that you could never have imagined. America has a great population, just believe in our own people. @@raquetdude
It's a single use interceptor for what's likely to be a swarm attack. Even if the swarm isn't, ALL AT ONCE, dealing with many attackers by way of a single use device just doesn't get the job done unless you lug a great quantity; a requirement for offensive. Should intercept with detachable metal net bag that allows the interceptor to fight again. OR, possibly a towed proximity activated warhead.
Just one EMP weapon, and your swarm has turned into an electronics graveyard. I would argue these "weapons" are more suited for single use interceptor, you mentioned.
@@MR-backup Yeah but they can just cover the devices in copper so the emp doesn't affect it. The same thing can also be said about metal nets Because they can just put a guard on the fans of the device to prevent anything from damaging it.
The next Arms program will be small, inexpensive drone swarms that utilize AI to not only seek out and find targets, but proceed on their own to destroy them. Imagine a square mile completely protected by a small number of drones that will protect that entire Battlefield with no needed human input? Now Imagine a port or a coastline with that ability, or a whole city?
Fun fact, Anduril is from JRR Tolkien's Lord of the Rings saga. It was the sword used to cut off Sauron's finger and was later given to Aragorn to finish the business.
I got three interviews with these guys back in 2020, but unfortunately they went with another candidate. This looks like it would have been an absolute engineer’s paradise to work there. Disappointing.
@ actually I was interviewing for the defensive mesh vision system design and setup team. So technically my role would have been to protect lives. But yes, weapons engineering is definitely an ethical grey area.
Original Tacit Rainbow concept that Northrop messed up in the 1980s being picked up 30 years later with cheap sensors, better software and a great business model.
As long as politicians are involved in the acquisition of defense materiel the big primes will always be there to appease them. Additionally the admirals and generals who were influential in the military retire to cushy executive and board level positions at the big primes. Nothing will change. Anduril's best strategy is to work with the people at the bottom of the acquisition chain and get their products to the war fighters who will then demonstrate to their superiors the capabilities of Anduril's products.
The lady commenting about the military liking to buy "things" is correct: Design a training PROGRAM for the military. This would allow mass production of spec ops.
It seems that their strategy embraces the idea of technology that can be deployed at scale & is attritable. Really liked the slight diss towards the DoD's COIN procurement. I wonder if these guys make portable EW systems and or systems akin to FPV's & Lancet drones?
@@jamesharding3459 Why not do both? EW is extremely profitable, especially if you can make it attritable. Considering how prominent FPV's & drones are in warfare now, portable & attritable EW is likely going to be something sought out.
The motive "Make it more expensive, to increase the profit" holds for small newcomers, too. It also holds for the client - the military top brass. They will get lucrative consulting jobs a few years after pushing through any new weapons system or a new order for ammunition.
They got lucrative job because engineer is neither soldier or Commander. They need an ex officer to explain what the military currently need, and would potentially need in the future. It isn't that complex
You are more insistent than convincing. Objective "Limits for profits" are possible only if the products do not change qualitatively for decades. Profit, as a rule , is some percentage of the final sales cost. So, the way to increase profit is to increase that cost. And this is done by increasing the expenses in R&D, production and maintenance. Methods are: outlandish ideas, overengineering, complex maintenance etc etc.@@nomad640
@@Beavereaver Which is also nonsense. Since every fighter jet and every radar is heavily dependent on software. And i believe that the "contract mechanism" has taken this fact into acccount
Anduril, Aragorn's sword from the Lord of the Rings, literally means "The Flame of The West". While a very cool name for a Western defense manufacturer, given Tolkien's view on imperialism, I wonder how he would feel about Anduril being associated with propping up US imperial interests abroad.
And corrected himself... a fraction of a second later. Palmer speaks and thinks very fast. IMO small inconsequential mistakes like that are only interesting to small inconsequential minds.
This seems like a brilliant business model. I really hope it breaks the mold of what is on offer at the moment. Please, can the UK have a company like this!!?
Contractor concentration and the death of competition in the Defense sector, alognside with VERY misplaced incentives as laid out here by the Anduril Co-founder, put the capability and strength of the entire Western defense sector at risk, when competitors are challenging democracy and showing ever more capabilities.
did you know Anduril Industries started out six years ago when they teamed up with Palantir Technologies? i sense something went on with their talks - but the language is that of Mordor which i will not utter here.
I’m an old Veteran that’s been a contractor in the environmental industry for 40+ years. Most of our core business is federal contracts. It’s a breath of fresh air to witness the emergence of these kind of government contractors. Their process, and their products are off the hook.
One if the main problems we need ti tackle is that the government usesna few exclusive companies and they basically charge whatever they want. One company chargus us almost 80,000 dollars for a chip thsts conventionaly only a couple Thousand at most. It's insane
Another consideration is training for some of these systems, think about how much it costs to train a pilot, not only just from a cost perspective but time as well.
They said their goal is to buck the traditional trend with more advanced military hardware where user experience was typically made more difficult due to innovation that increased specialized training to operate it by making the software to operate the system extremely easy to use. A crude allegory would be training time to use a rifle vs to understand and identify tactics to use in real time in new/varied environments; their goal is for the operator to need the equivalent training investment for its use as the firearm training in the previous situation.
2:42 exactly. As someone who works in big defense, there is no system to dev better software like they are doing at Anduril. Im sold. Job app submitted.
I always wonder what the world would look like if all nations were to take the money put into defense and instead spend it on research. I wonder what power trust between countries could have.
At 4:25 (Anduril is) "Going the opposite direction..." There is nothing wrong, as such, with existing military equipment. It covers a very necessary space. Anduril should visualise themselves as filling gaps in this space. It would be a mistake for the defence industry to join the to-ing and fro-ing of fashion waves. More like as described at 4:37.
Our ignorance is on FULL DISPLAY when we kill each other in War. We are so ignorant, so barbaric. We have a lot to learn about our place in the Universe.
Anduril will make the benchmark for all the other military contractors to think about how they are doing business and spend more money on new technology!
I really think we need an ethical debate on the use of autonomous weapon systems. Especially around lethality decisions. Do you want a robot deciding when to shoot.
Killer graph depicting the merger of defense contractors over time!
2002 version page 134 of 319
history.nasa.gov/AeroCommissionFinalReport.pdf
Have a nice day.
I’ve been involved in this industry since the early 1980s. That graphic definitely resonated with me.
That visualization!!!
Here's the thing though; you can pick almost any industry and you'll see the same trend. We've got major problems with industry consolidation in the West and no one recognizes it. It's just not healthy for capitalism to be run by oligopolies, for our politics, and aspects of cultural life.
@@mynameisawesomeman: If we want a liberal form of capitalism, that's what we'll get.
"The problem is there's no real competition" "When we buy up companies we look for the most competitive people we can't keep up with"
Smaller companies are typically selling their products to one of the primes. The process for contracting is so complex that a small company essentially can't get a contract for defense by itself.
Cost plus incentive contracts are supposed to transition to competitively bid fixed price contracts. This is only practical if the product is produced in large numbers and License to several manufacturers or there is a competing product (eg F-16 vs F-17/18) etc. Politics then comes in. Plants need to be kept open in certain congressman's electorate for instance and of course the voters and workers there do need stability.
Tech sector approach “move fast and break things” and “fully reliant on low interest rates”
That is exactly what I came to the comments to type haha.
Elon Musk in Silicone disguise 🥸 aka Skirgailia 666,, aka not so Lucky. “I” just saw you leaving the Dalhart airport dressed in drag as a 50 year old woman w/black curly hair with white blouse.
The main issue is that the big expensive contracts are heavily geared towards jobs creation and not military effectiveness. If your product doesn’t require significant labor to create, it will be difficult to get congressional support, with is usually predicated on funneling money into powerful districts.
That's not how anything works. Learn how contracts work.
@@Khuroshe is talking bout how the defense contractors influence congress through job creation and manufacturing. It will be hard for them to influence congress to vote in law that are in thier best interest, because they don’t have the same leverage as other big contractors.
@@Khurosthats how things work in congress. Even NASA has to spend more money building rockets so that more states can get a piece of the $ spent on building the rockets. Politicians in congress create waste in government spending to please businesses and workers in their states in the name of creating jobs and boosting their states' economy.
@@Khurosgo to school kid he’s 100% right now
@@Khuros Contracts may not work that way but congressional funding often does.
“The pharmaceutical industry cares about world health as much as the arms industry cares about world peace”✌️
In the nuclear age, the true enemy is war itself.
Just because they’re profit focused doesn’t mean their products are not effective
@@shafthespaceeggmaybe, but they are incentivized to protect their market (to put lightly), can't have everyone be healthy, that won't generate profits.. it's like the tinder mechanics, it's not in their profit for you to find long lasting love, it's better for them to keep people coming
@@fire17102 but I do see what you’re trying to say with the tinder thing like they’re incentivized to keep you coming back for more
the arms industry has to evolve or the right to have your opinion will not exist
This is exactly what the defense industry needs - defense companies taking enough interest in their products to spend more on their projects than the government does - or even funding them alone if they don't get a contract to build it.
this is just a money grab. they get paid whether their stuff is effective in the field or not.
and goes towards the full automation route
Probably more like fat subscription fees later on for the software that is needed to use the equipment they paid extra for (think that drone helicopter) to have access to that system’s effectiveness just like the “tech model.”
@@youtuberconsuming6411You’re confusing the two approaches, cost plus contracting literally incentivizes delays.
Actually the 5 Defense contractors are thinking about merging into one; the preliminary name is SKYNET.
Guess is ChatGPT or Gemini going to be the first hack into Skynet?
False information. There’s no proof of this online from any reliable source. Even if this were true, it would violate antitrust laws
What do the other 2 comments here say??????
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@@MR-backup😅i want to know the same
they probably got deleted by youtube for having links @@MR-backup
If Anduril is smart, they'll also do a lot of research into anti-drone weaponry, so either they can harden their drones against it or sell that tech themselves. If they don't, they're liable to see their market dry up due to somebody else perfecting directed energy weapons, or something like that. Drone defenses have evolved in Ukraine just as fast as drone usage.
You are watching a video that covers anti drone tech. That's part of what road runner does.
They have a drone that does that.
Is that the perfect solution?
I don't believe so but it is something
They already have.
@@Almost3331 Yeah, but the problem here is that anything which is small and needs to fly (and thus presumably has little armor) is a prime target for laser weaponry. That one doesn't get as much press, but lasers have been evolving incredibly rapidly as well.
Before the 90s everyone thought lasers would be limited to small gas-powered applications, then after the 90s chemical lasers were the most we could do, then solid-state electronics matured and now we have better lasers, and by 2020 even better fiber lasers started to get around.
If anduril was smart, they would go apply their tech to win the war in Ukraine. What better test of concept....
If the war in Ukraine has taught us anything it's that tanks, ships, aircraft are all too easy to destroy with modern systems and buying/maintaining them may not be worth the cost. Low cost, destructive and high quantity systems are a genius way to fight modern wars.
@@mythbuster6126 Not relevant at all but o k
what it taught us is america couldnt supply ukraine with a drone with the performance of the russian lancet
@@mythbuster6126 Nuclear just eliminates everyone from the war and acutely focuses them on the business of trying to conserve what's left of their ability to sustain themselves. Nuclear isn't for fighting wars, it's for demotivating the participants and, likely, all of their neighbors.
Quiet kid.
Anduril should go apply their trade in Ukraine as a proof of concept experiment. Go win the war, prove yourself, become the defence company of the future.
I can only imagine the calculation that it took to engineer Mr. Lucky’s perfect mullet. Not to long not to short.
He's not gonna pick you dude, chill out
@@bonedeath What? Why would I want to be picked for anything. I am military retired. That was an asinine comment. You should sit down.
He did perfectly engineer the worst hair and facial hair possible.
They do hire military people. Just saying.@@ac1888
The future looks bright man. With all these weapons, the wars of the future will be better than ever before. What a time to be alive!
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Hold on to your papers
Please read Starship Troopers or serve.
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Just because China is building mega projects for its people doesn't mean they aren't making defense weapons.
Andúril, also called the Flame of the West and the Sword Reforged, was the sword which was reforged from the shards of Narsil in Rivendell. Who else thought of Tolkien verse and LOTR when you saw the word Anduril?
Angry you beat me this comment 😂😂
Sauron's bane
3:14 And tell me that isnt an Elf Haha
Palantir
I am reading Lord of the Rings now :)
"That's kind of one of the coolest things about autonomous systems, not nacessarily the fact that they can think faster or do better than a person, but they can also just throw away their lives"
- Pamer Luckey
And cant be tried for war crimes
Sorry, but to go faster than Mach 1, or for full explosive yield, you need to be a premium member. Monthly packages start at 1999$ per drone.
Its the military so $199,999 per
@@BasedTruthSeeker
Considering such super sonic vehicles like jets can cost tens of thousands per flight hour, paying 2,000 or even 200,000 a month per something like that might be preferable.
Shut up and take my money.
Moneyball Military-a massive arsenal of smaller, lower-cost, autonomous systems that can be generated over the next few years, fielded rapidly and at scale to US forces, and transferred in large numbers to our allies and partners. This would also require the generation of an alternative industrial base to produce at scale what would essentially be commercially derived, consumable weapon systems.
and the digital means of connecting them into a military version of the Internet of Things.
And like factoring in the value for “goodwill” in accounting for investments (usually social cause related), the value if an individual’s life, both in dollars lost (training, etc.) and in war edfort morale, is difficult to calculate but autonomous AI driven drone systems eliminate a huge portion of that portion of the sacrifices necessary for victory. There are A LOT of potential dangers with a system like that (like an enemy utilizing cyberattacks to turn your entire fleet against you simultaneously), but allowing yourself to be surpassed in that realm out of fear for the unknown is a recipe for disaster. I hope this company eats everyone’s lunch or forces them to innovate intensely.
That exists only in china.
This is terrifying.
Yes, but there is no putting the genie back in the bottle.
If the other side is using smart and fast systems, you have to counter with your own, because humans can't react fast enough.
"I think that it's our responsibility to figure out how to use AI responsibly to MAXIMIZE the amount of pain we inflict on the bad guys." -Palmer Lucky, "Honestly" podcast, 2024.
Not as terrifying as just sitting by while China and Russia build this stuff.
Ooooo shiver me timber
@@baldieman64 And add in AGI similar to AWS RoboMaker with automated accelerated hypothesis generation thinking .... Batta Bing Batta Boom !
"Perilous to us all are the devices of an art deeper than we possess ourselves."
Tolkien, not a pacifist, would've likely **hated** this deeply inappropriate use of the name Andúril, meaning Flame of the West. AI devices complicate war ethically, and I'm certain there aren't many philosophers currently working at Anduril . . . a more fitting name would've been Grond, which was Morgoth's mace.
Very very very user friendly.. so friendly it wants to hug ALL humans... 🎉
It's fascinating the lengths we humans go to in order to end the lives of others. Truly remarkable and sad.
Good point they can use these drones to fly through the air space to really see what’s in the Antarctic but no they rather develop These things for nefarious uses
Or to protect the lives of innocents
@@Invadix-fs4zr which would be the result of.....?
@@Invadix-fs4zr by killing more innocent people in the name to protect innocent lives.
It's fascinating the lengths we humans will go to in order to manipulate ideas to fit our personal bias.
Black mirror episodes are just a documentary at this point
5:04 that is a superb graphic, well done commission on the future
5:24 gotta love how the CEO messes up the counting on his right hand lol… WSJ you couldn’t have done another take??
This company better have some stellar IP security in place, because they are now on the radar of every adversary.
there is no IP in warfare. if it falls the enemy's hand they own it
@@ktw5141 Yeah what are they going to do, sue someone they are at war with? lol
This is genius. But it will eventually become part of one of the big defense contractors. And if they don't sell out, the big guys will throw a ton of money into developing similar systems. I would imagine they are already in the works at LMT, RTX, BA, NOC, GD, and more. They all see how the cheap drones are able to inflict damage on ships and equpment hundreds or even thousands times more expensive.
The art of war is constantly changing.
The other primes can make similar systems. The difference is that they are reliant on the contracting model which doesn’t incentivize efficient business. Anduril develops products on their own time and money, and then goes to sell it to the government. So they have every incentive to do things well
@@Ragnar707 doesn't matter, LM is 10x bigger and has been in the industry so long now that it's essentially integrated into heart of the DOD. This isn't the tech world where some new startup will revolutionize the future, all the systems that Anduril can produce, LM can produce twice as fast.
to further add onto my point, it seems that anduril is in the typical contractor phase where their ambitions outpace their experience. I've experienced it personally when I've worked with R&D eggheads numerous times testing out some new system for them where they don't understand why I can't instantly see all enemies in an area on thermal sights with a drone when they clearly predicted that it would be incredibly easy to do so without actually understanding how PID works.
@@3User LM cannot produce things twice as fast. Traditional defense contractors produce things ten times as slowly. It's so ingrained in their culture that it would be impossible to fix.
Small companies have the speed advantage and that is even more true in the defense space.
With the money they have now, they are likely going to be a permanent player in the defence software scene.
YES! I pitched some things in an RFP a few years back in the defense space. Was shocked that everyone else came in so much more expensive with their offerings until I understood the cost + dynamic and that there are laws limiting your overall profit margin. Why does the DoD care what my profit margin is if my product is better, and I cost 1/5th the other offers to do the job better?
Dude what do u mean by that ? Making profit with defense tech is difficult ??
If the title ends with a question - answer is no.
Law of headlines.
Amazing innovation!
However, Anduril needs to change their company name to Cyberdyne to match the trajectory of this narrative.
Man got fired from making VR and went to the Military Industrial Complex
Kinda weird don't you think
“Jesus wept, for he had no more worlds to conquer!!”
the vr changed the way the military works.
glad to see Trinity provide such powerful performance once again. im sure she misses the matrix 😂
I thought exactly that, I couldn’t take her seriously, someone needs to have a quiet word to save her from her ego
@@marcusoutdoors4999 can you point to an attitude or quote from her in this video where you would have also said that about a man? I mean the CEO was wearing a Return of the Jedi-themed Hawaii shirt featuring Ewoks and yet you're commenting on her attire and questioning whether to take her seriously?
I would absolutely say that about a man who was for example dressing up as Neo. It’s worth looking at her bio, a typical academic who has delivered little or nothing of value, and has engaged in questionable work in light of the Twitter files. As for the flowery shirt and the ill advised facial hair, I’m guessing that it is a useful distraction from the fact that he’s deploying his massive genius in creating weapons of death. But I’m OK with both his attire and his work as it is sadly necessary work. @@chirstophersjohnson
They should watch the scene in Sicario where Josh Brolin is rockin sandals lol
Her eyes look alien
How well will Anduril's systems work after an EMP attack? That same question applies to the rest of the 'connected' battlefield.
It's a good question. One way the US is developing its military to counter China's lots-of-boats-and-rockets strategy is to rely more on powerful but small, numerous squads of marines with lots of drone & tool capabilities. Imagine if you can use a squad of marines & drones with a singular boat to take out a destroyer? That's the way our military is drifting for seaborne combat. Marines have figured out how to launch cruise missiles from trucks recently, so the decentralized punch approach is trending strongly.
are there NNEMP weapons? I cant find any.
There are nuclear bombs, but if they being used, there is no need for drones anymore
IIRC, most of all our Military electronics are already hardened against EMP
We can only hope Thx Lucky
"Without putting people at risk", yeah, right
He means without putting Americans at risk, but of course there will be unintended casualties down range, probably a few schoolchildren, no big deal.
People we like.
imagine having to live deep underground as millions of drones hunt anything with two legs
fun fact! Andúril is named after the sword in Lord of the Rings. its elvish for "flame of west" and "sword reforged" both titles are very well suited!
I was waiting for someone to reference this. Took far too much scrolling
The name isn't well suited at all. Tolkien hated war.
Came here for the info, left with the graph. Thats so insanely good visualized.
Wish them luck in shaking up the hugely wasteful Defense industry
Not with a tech sector approach … tech sector has been incredibly wasteful and is literally awful when it comes to finance, remember Oculus got major of its funding/tech from HTC and Valve.
The tech sector business model is awful, what’s needed is for monopolies to be broken up is all and for European / Japanese / Korean / Australian companies to be allowed to work with the USA easier.
Why would we let Europe Korea and Australia work with us? Their technology is LOW TECH and they're decades and decades behind. We don't need to work with them. We simply need to unleash American innovation.
It is the people of the United States that make this country so great. If we simply unleash our own people, we will be able to produce new things that you could never have imagined. America has a great population, just believe in our own people.
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@@raquetdude We don't need second-rate countries controlling our tech. The U.S leads in tech full stop
@@Sanyu-Tumusiimenah those country are leading players in many sectors.
@@Sanyu-Tumusiime South Korea has made quite good tanks and automated gun system for border protection
I can imagine it’s much more difficult to operate in the current global environment than it was for Lockheed and Boeing when they started out.
It's a single use interceptor for what's likely to be a swarm attack. Even if the swarm isn't, ALL AT ONCE, dealing with many attackers by way of a single use device just doesn't get the job done unless you lug a great quantity; a requirement for offensive. Should intercept with detachable metal net bag that allows the interceptor to fight again. OR, possibly a towed proximity activated warhead.
Just one EMP weapon, and your swarm has turned into an electronics graveyard.
I would argue these "weapons" are more suited for single use interceptor, you mentioned.
@@MR-backup Yeah but they can just cover the devices in copper so the emp doesn't affect it. The same thing can also be said about metal nets Because they can just put a guard on the fans of the device to prevent anything from damaging it.
Iran is genius in creating low cost very effective weapons.
The next Arms program will be small, inexpensive drone swarms that utilize AI to not only seek out and find targets, but proceed on their own to destroy them. Imagine a square mile completely protected by a small number of drones that will protect that entire Battlefield with no needed human input? Now Imagine a port or a coastline with that ability, or a whole city?
Indeed.
EW entered the chat.
you mean skynet ?
When I see it tried on the USA border I will believe it. Shut the border with autonomous drones.
Imagine being a political outsider who is critical of the military industrial complex. Maybe that statement should be passed tense.
This is actually going to have profound effects on warfare
Anduril is a neat company. Glad to have them on our side.
"Palantir" now "Anduril."
What's, next? "Narsil" the missile-maker?
If it undermines the bloat tied to the current system then I'm all for it.
solid video
This company is extremely interesting to us. We will be keeping an eye on Anduril during its IPO.
Thank you
The people who keep pushing never ending wars.
Fun fact, Anduril is from JRR Tolkien's Lord of the Rings saga. It was the sword used to cut off Sauron's finger and was later given to Aragorn to finish the business.
I got three interviews with these guys back in 2020, but unfortunately they went with another candidate. This looks like it would have been an absolute engineer’s paradise to work there. Disappointing.
Ah yea the modern harbinger of death and its architects
@ actually I was interviewing for the defensive mesh vision system design and setup team. So technically my role would have been to protect lives. But yes, weapons engineering is definitely an ethical grey area.
Why dont you make videos about the UAP disclosure issue? it relates to this.
Original Tacit Rainbow concept that Northrop messed up in the 1980s being picked up 30 years later with cheap sensors, better software and a great business model.
dang… do they have internship opportunities?
As long as politicians are involved in the acquisition of defense materiel the big primes will always be there to appease them. Additionally the admirals and generals who were influential in the military retire to cushy executive and board level positions at the big primes. Nothing will change. Anduril's best strategy is to work with the people at the bottom of the acquisition chain and get their products to the war fighters who will then demonstrate to their superiors the capabilities of Anduril's products.
The lady commenting about the military liking to buy "things" is correct:
Design a training PROGRAM for the military. This would allow mass production of spec ops.
It seems that their strategy embraces the idea of technology that can be deployed at scale & is attritable.
Really liked the slight diss towards the DoD's COIN procurement. I wonder if these guys make portable EW systems and or systems akin to FPV's & Lancet drones?
I doubt it. Why sell a handful of
@@jamesharding3459 Why not do both? EW is extremely profitable, especially if you can make it attritable. Considering how prominent FPV's & drones are in warfare now, portable & attritable EW is likely going to be something sought out.
These guys get it. The US military still don't get it.
Anyone notice when Palmer said in 5:24 "Eighty percent goes to 5 companies" then proceeds to make a figure for four instead of five😂
From Oculus to killer drones.
Everyone in this video has one eye socket 10mm higher then the other. You can't unsee it.
Rise of terminator? Jokes aside... autonomous defense systems are in rise and i feel it can be seen to drive the slowing defense industry.
“Pentagon fails audit for sixth year in a row” Reuters 11/15/23
The motive "Make it more expensive, to increase the profit" holds for small newcomers, too. It also holds for the client - the military top brass. They will get lucrative consulting jobs a few years after pushing through any new weapons system or a new order for ammunition.
Did you know all military procurement have a limit on how much profit you can make from each product ? You didn't know it do you? Of course you dont.
They got lucrative job because engineer is neither soldier or Commander. They need an ex officer to explain what the military currently need, and would potentially need in the future. It isn't that complex
You are more insistent than convincing. Objective "Limits for profits" are possible only if the products do not change qualitatively for decades. Profit, as a rule , is some percentage of the final sales cost. So, the way to increase profit is to increase that cost. And this is done by increasing the expenses in R&D, production and maintenance. Methods are: outlandish ideas, overengineering, complex maintenance etc etc.@@nomad640
@@nomad640"Of course you dont.". Of course I don't. :) The profit motive is at the basis of capitalism.
Amazing to see Palmer Lucky step up to make our country strong! Anduril has been a great innovator in this space!
This company has been working with the Royal Australian Navy on the Ghost Shark autonomous sub.
Funny that this pops up. I was just at their facility in Costa Mesa this week. Interesting
These are some very cool high tech weapons - good to have in our arsenal - nice story
Thats quite amazing
We need more businesses and ceos like this that push industry and influence while thinking outside the box of standard templates for invention
NO...we don't.
@@jhaduvala start learning mandarin then
Is anyone else noticing the name Anduril is from LOTR?
This is basically an Anduril ad.
WSJ is a known warmonger. I used to subscribe and half of their headline stories were about China, Russia, Iran, etc.
Listen to this man!
"The US military likes to buy things. The whole contract mechanism is designed to buy things..."
Yes... And based on the "use & throw" Principles
She was making the point that they don’t see software as being a thing but that they should.
@@Beavereaver Which is also nonsense. Since every fighter jet and every radar is heavily dependent on software. And i believe that the "contract mechanism" has taken this fact into acccount
It’s a very good approach to the work.
Anduril, Aragorn's sword from the Lord of the Rings, literally means "The Flame of The West".
While a very cool name for a Western defense manufacturer, given Tolkien's view on imperialism, I wonder how he would feel about Anduril being associated with propping up US imperial interests abroad.
Tolkien will be turning in his grave. The lack of self-awareness on the part of this death merchant is mind-blowing.
how can I buy stock?
5:21 This man said “we live in a world where 80% of weapons procurement goes to just 5 companies” and holds up 3 fingers 💀
And corrected himself... a fraction of a second later. Palmer speaks and thinks very fast. IMO small inconsequential mistakes like that are only interesting to small inconsequential minds.
@@stevetennispro It's still funny, calm down.
When does the company open to the public for stock?
I very much doubt Tolkien would approve of being associated with the military industrial complex.
The whole point of Anduril is NOT being the military industrial complex, though.
@@nicewall8311how’s that work
@@nicewall8311 I don't think you understand what you typed.
You mean a semi-autonomous F16 is controlled by one individual under multi-tasking operation through neuro-system
This seems like a brilliant business model. I really hope it breaks the mold of what is on offer at the moment. Please, can the UK have a company like this!!?
no and it's pointless anyway because as soon as it fills a void it will get bought up by one of the main players.
Remember this guy. Good to see him thriving.
Contractor concentration and the death of competition in the Defense sector, alognside with VERY misplaced incentives as laid out here by the Anduril Co-founder, put the capability and strength of the entire Western defense sector at risk, when competitors are challenging democracy and showing ever more capabilities.
why did they name it ANDURIL, isn't Aragorn's sword called that as well? Anduril?
did you know Anduril Industries started out six years ago when they teamed up with Palantir Technologies? i sense something went on with their talks - but the language is that of Mordor which i will not utter here.
cool company
Palmer Luckey is what you get if you mix The Dude Lebowski with Walter Sobchak.
Reminds me of Syndrome form the Incredibles movie.
Very cuberpunk like. Shadow run style. Drone operators seem to be heading that way anyway. The power mullet helps.
Palmer must be quite the exceptional man. All the best to the guy.
excellent.
I’m an old Veteran that’s been a contractor in the environmental industry for 40+ years. Most of our core business is federal contracts. It’s a breath of fresh air to witness the emergence of these kind of government contractors. Their process, and their products are off the hook.
What!? A merit based defense contractor that doesn’t depend on corruption and kickbacks for their business?
That’s true innovation!
One if the main problems we need ti tackle is that the government usesna few exclusive companies and they basically charge whatever they want. One company chargus us almost 80,000 dollars for a chip thsts conventionaly only a couple Thousand at most. It's insane
It's massive corruption pure and simple
Cool Reyn Spooner shirt Luckey. Congratulations
Another consideration is training for some of these systems, think about how much it costs to train a pilot, not only just from a cost perspective but time as well.
We’ve been trying to do unmanned combat since the Eisenhower administration because of cost and moral hazard. Francis Gary Powers really hit hard.
They said their goal is to buck the traditional trend with more advanced military hardware where user experience was typically made more difficult due to innovation that increased specialized training to operate it by making the software to operate the system extremely easy to use. A crude allegory would be training time to use a rifle vs to understand and identify tactics to use in real time in new/varied environments; their goal is for the operator to need the equivalent training investment for its use as the firearm training in the previous situation.
2:42 exactly. As someone who works in big defense, there is no system to dev better software like they are doing at Anduril. Im sold. Job app submitted.
5:24 I love that the founder looks the way he does, and also holds up the wrong number lol I bet he has an interesting story
I always wonder what the world would look like if all nations were to take the money put into defense and instead spend it on research. I wonder what power trust between countries could have.
He should call his product....
*Luckey Strike* 🚬
underrated
At 4:25 (Anduril is) "Going the opposite direction..."
There is nothing wrong, as such, with existing military equipment. It covers a very necessary space.
Anduril should visualise themselves as filling gaps in this space.
It would be a mistake for the defence industry to join the to-ing and fro-ing of fashion waves.
More like as described at 4:37.
Our ignorance is on FULL DISPLAY when we kill each other in War.
We are so ignorant, so barbaric.
We have a lot to learn about our place in the Universe.
🙏🙏🙏
When all these units are built, and ready to be deployed and control. There going to need to start watching the SC2 leaderboards for operators.
Anduril will make the benchmark for all the other military contractors to think about how they are doing business and spend more money on new technology!
So you think the people lining their pockets will just step to the side?
I really think we need an ethical debate on the use of autonomous weapon systems. Especially around lethality decisions. Do you want a robot deciding when to shoot.