own a 330e 2023, daily work commute of 48miles round trip. Home plug used over night, i may be fill up the petrol tank once a month if i do not do any bigger trips. Wish I had a shorter work commute D: No problems or complaints after 28k total miles/2Years. Reading a lot about other brand PHEV having huge problems...
i bought a 2020 330e with 27k miles on it for £24,000 from BMW Sytners in April of 2024. This thing is a steal IMO. i get 25 miles with heating on in the winter, 35-40 miles in the summer. that EV range covers id say 80% of my driving in a week with free charging at work and for peanuts at home using the 3 pin socket charger on the drive over night. You get all the features with the BMW app too like preheat etc etc with timer too. Ive lost count how many compliments I've got on this car from men and women alike for various things about too (always makes me happy). this car can save you money, be comfy, luxurious and then also a lot of fun. My only gripe is overall range and boot space. but its a converted chassis it wasn't meant to be a PHEV. the new 330e recovers all that lost space with any LCI model from 2022 onwards. PS - mines IDENTICAL this one lol, most are that's mines going to be changed up looks wise. subbed love your video pace and style of it, commentary.
My range often shows 400 miles + about 20 for the electric. Yes, the M340i probably goes 450 - 500. It's not a huge difference. But in the end, owners of a 330e (such as me) fill up 1 time a month (and lots of the time, it ends up taking only 5-6 gallons), because most of our miles are on electric with daily charging. If you are driving this car long distances, can you really drive more than 5-6 hours without taking at least a bathroom break anyway? So the lower range is for most of us, not a penalty.
Road trip range is probably the absolute smallest concern I could possibly have when buying a car, especially when it comes to actual usage, I'm getting 25+ miles a day of electric range. And also the fuel efficiency estimate are complete nonsense for the 330e. They must be measuring it when the battery capacity is completely used up. I don't know why, but when the battery capacity drops below 25%, the mpg drops massively. If you keep it above 25%, you can get 40-50+ mpg on the highway easily depending on your driving habits.
I own this car and the consumption is not good in cold weather. Coz the heating /cooling. Ac is electric. After battery is depleted engine charging constantly the high voltage battery and consumption is high in cold. But the car is great. Except some rattling from egr sometimes till engine getting warm
My friend has an older gen 530e 2017 he remapped his it made 340bhp. I thought that was impressive until I remembered my brothers old 2006 Lexus gs450h hybrid made 335bhp
It could be, but at the same time if anything breaks on the hybrid it's a very expensive paperweight! Seems like the WORST of both worlds unfortunately
btw small edit for you, in full electric you can get up to 85MPH. in hybrid it changes out at 68 like you said but it also lowers acceleration thresholds for kicking over to the petrol engine.
Well, it does come with a 7 year warranty so if you buy say a 2020, and your battery does need replacing by 2027, it'll be resolved under warranty anyway
@@jamesforrester1566 It stays with the car,my garage will test the hybrid battery near the end of the warranty and replace if needed. Added note is that the battery consist of seperate power cells,not 1 battery,if 1 pack dies just replace that one,not the whole battery
@@jamesforrester1566 I am lucky to be able to charge overnight in my garage and my daily commute is usually up to 50km. So this is the best case scenario for this kind of vehicle but it's not that rare.
It's the best of both and in my opinion the best 3 series you can purchase. I have had my 2018 330e for 3 years and I'm looking to exchange my current 330e for a newer model. Definitely recommend and if you are in the market for a 3 series don't dismiss the 330e
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Tax implications aside, this is far from the best 3 Series to use as a daily driver. I've driven several thousand miles in a 330e and found it to be a mixed bag. The 3 Series traits are all there - and they remain excellent - however the engine is the downside. To use one, it's only really viable if one has the ability to charge at home. Without that, range anxiety comes into the equation as one is always looking at the battery range. Unquestionably, the best all-round daily 3 Series is the M340d. Handsome, fast, fun and economical.
3 years ago, I reserved a Mazda 3 as a rental. They gave me a 6 level upgrade to a BMW 330e (it was the prior gen). I didn't know the nuances of the car and wasn't familiar with anything. I just put it in Sport mode and drove it for 2 days. Although I had regularly driven my sons' 340i / M340i's, I did not like them enough to consider them. The 330e, in sport mode, has incredible off the line acceleration and it got over 30 MPG. I was looking for a new car. I had driven so many cars up to 50k USD and nothing impressed me, until I drove the 330e. 8 months later I bought one. I'm on 2 years now. I still drive my sons cars from time to time and I still like the 330e better. It's like owning 2 cars. Drive it efficiently, and 40 MPG is easily achievable. Drive it like a teenager and you'll have a big smile on your face.
range anxiety in a PHEV? That makes no sense. My 330e gets 40-50 mpg on the highway in sport mode. Don't drain the battery to empty, it gets way worse gas mileage at the point. Idk why they made it like that, because the battery capacity holds more or less constant in sport mode, but that's how it works.
@@noahmcdaniel4920 Your reply is contradictory. ''Don't drain the battery'' you say. That is precisely why I got range anxiety. Also, without the battery you lose around 100bhp and it isn't good for the engine, according to BMW with whom I spoke on the matter. Unless for tax reasons or the desire for a brand new car, there is no good reason not to buy the M340d over the 330e.
@diremond3700 that makes no sense. You have range anxiety about having to use the gas engine and getting 40-50 mpg? Literally makes no sense. Like I said, turn on sport mode at 25% battery. Save your last 25% for your last ~6-7 miles home. If you charge your 330e nightly and drive less than
@@noahmcdaniel4920 I suggest you reread my original comment re charging. The M340d is a superior car and one that I would recommend to anyone who wants a fast, fun, economical and presitge car without spending a fortune. Your claim that the car doesn't lose power without the hybrid boost is entirely false. Yes, I've owned both and done thousands of miles in each, many more in the M340d as it was so good. Your opinion is your prerogative, but facts and personal experience remain the same. Enjoy your car.
The missus bought one last year....she can get through a week on near full electric mode as she can charge it for free in work...16km away. Ive only averaged 36 mpg. Its a good car and has more than enough power for anybody. However, we also have a 10 year old mondeo titanium.....and apart from not being half as fast it does literally everything better.....61 mpg on long cruises and more refined. Just my opinion of course.
Max. Another fantastic insight and review. Correct me if it's wrong, but I think I read that if you put your destination into the sat nav,.the 330e " calculates" when you will be driving in cities ( as in say Manchester) and " keep" enough electric power thereby allowing you to drive through the city on EV power...with all the obvious savings? No doubt a good accountant would help a self employed person with a 330e! 👍👌
For US models - it must be in Hybrid Eco Pro mode (which is the "least fun" mode that the car has) for the in car nav to optimize engine/battery usage based on highway and city driving.
@@kurtgabbidon2666 that’s some logic. If you don’t have access to charging, then don’t buy a PHEV. The car charges overnight on a household outlet. If you’re too lazy to plug it in when it’s low that’s your fault, and this is not an issue for most PHEV owners.
Hate the infotainment dash. I prefer vertical. Real leather seats are probably $10k more. This host is chubs. Volvo has more horsepower and is more efficient and faster 0-60
Lol clueless take. The economy is terrible? It costs $2-3 to charge and you get upwards of 20-30 miles a day out of it depending on driving conditions and habits. That means if you're driving less than 30 miles a day your fuel cost is comparable to a prius. It's even better if you live somewhere gas prices are higher than the US. And the mpg estimates are nonsense. If you don't drain the battery first, sport mode holds the battery constant and gets 50 mpg on the highway. Even if it didn't get better mpg than the gas version, with 20-30+ miles a day at a highly efficient cost it's going to be dramatically cheaper on fuel for almost every usecase. As for the battery being $10k to replace, EV batteries last upwards of 150-200k miles, and being a PHEV only a portion of your miles will be in EV mode. This trope that PHEV's are twice the maintenance is utter nonsense. You're splitting the wear and tear between two powertrains, not doubling it, which means each powertrain remains lightly used for much longer. Would you rather have a ICE/EV with 100k miles on it, or a PHEV with 50k miles on the the ICE and fuel/emissions system and 50k on the EV motor/battery. It's a no brainer. Hybrids are already known to require less maintenance and repair than ICE's, and PHEV's are even better in that regard.
own a 330e 2023, daily work commute of 48miles round trip. Home plug used over night, i may be fill up the petrol tank once a month if i do not do any bigger trips. Wish I had a shorter work commute D: No problems or complaints after 28k total miles/2Years. Reading a lot about other brand PHEV having huge problems...
Almost the same bro. I drive my 2023 330e xDrive to work 61 miles/day, 6 days/week and buy 9 gallons of fule about every 2 weeks. It's magical!
i bought a 2020 330e with 27k miles on it for £24,000 from BMW Sytners in April of 2024. This thing is a steal IMO. i get 25 miles with heating on in the winter, 35-40 miles in the summer. that EV range covers id say 80% of my driving in a week with free charging at work and for peanuts at home using the 3 pin socket charger on the drive over night. You get all the features with the BMW app too like preheat etc etc with timer too.
Ive lost count how many compliments I've got on this car from men and women alike for various things about too (always makes me happy). this car can save you money, be comfy, luxurious and then also a lot of fun.
My only gripe is overall range and boot space. but its a converted chassis it wasn't meant to be a PHEV. the new 330e recovers all that lost space with any LCI model from 2022 onwards.
PS - mines IDENTICAL this one lol, most are that's mines going to be changed up looks wise. subbed love your video pace and style of it, commentary.
You forgot the fuel tank also shrinks by a 1/3 too from 60L to 40L. So range wise I doubt you’d get further than a M340i tank to tank on a long run.
My range often shows 400 miles + about 20 for the electric. Yes, the M340i probably goes 450 - 500. It's not a huge difference. But in the end, owners of a 330e (such as me) fill up 1 time a month (and lots of the time, it ends up taking only 5-6 gallons), because most of our miles are on electric with daily charging. If you are driving this car long distances, can you really drive more than 5-6 hours without taking at least a bathroom break anyway? So the lower range is for most of us, not a penalty.
Road trip range is probably the absolute smallest concern I could possibly have when buying a car, especially when it comes to actual usage, I'm getting 25+ miles a day of electric range. And also the fuel efficiency estimate are complete nonsense for the 330e. They must be measuring it when the battery capacity is completely used up. I don't know why, but when the battery capacity drops below 25%, the mpg drops massively. If you keep it above 25%, you can get 40-50+ mpg on the highway easily depending on your driving habits.
I drive from the uk to Marrakesh with it filled up my tank 4 times 50 euro 3 times and £43 once
I own this car and the consumption is not good in cold weather. Coz the heating /cooling. Ac is electric. After battery is depleted engine charging constantly the high voltage battery and consumption is high in cold. But the car is great. Except some rattling from egr sometimes till engine getting warm
My friend has an older gen 530e 2017 he remapped his it made 340bhp. I thought that was impressive until I remembered my brothers old 2006 Lexus gs450h hybrid made 335bhp
Nice!
You are comparing a 3.5 L hybrid vs a 2.0 ...
It could be, but at the same time if anything breaks on the hybrid it's a very expensive paperweight! Seems like the WORST of both worlds unfortunately
btw small edit for you, in full electric you can get up to 85MPH. in hybrid it changes out at 68 like you said but it also lowers acceleration thresholds for kicking over to the petrol engine.
Love mine and it flys as per thr video. Great car.
Good to hear!
Apparently a replacement hybrid battery is £10000!!!!!!
Ouch!
Well, it does come with a 7 year warranty so if you buy say a 2020, and your battery does need replacing by 2027, it'll be resolved under warranty anyway
@Funcle is it a transeferable warrenty or is it only for the first owner ..all about that small print
@@jamesforrester1566 It stays with the car,my garage will test the hybrid battery near the end of the warranty and replace if needed.
Added note is that the battery consist of seperate power cells,not 1 battery,if 1 pack dies just replace that one,not the whole battery
U never need to replace that. But even if u need to u can buy used for 2000. Mine has 160k km. And is doing great
The only issue is the reduced fuel tank. Mpg is still decent without the battery but the tank is just so bloody small
Yet I refuel like once in three months despite driving it daily.
@@MichalBratthat sounds great
@@jamesforrester1566 I am lucky to be able to charge overnight in my garage and my daily commute is usually up to 50km. So this is the best case scenario for this kind of vehicle but it's not that rare.
agreed.
@@MichalBrat about every 6-8 weeks for me
It's the best of both and in my opinion the best 3 series you can purchase.
I have had my 2018 330e for 3 years and I'm looking to exchange my current 330e for a newer model.
Definitely recommend and if you are in the market for a 3 series don't dismiss the 330e
Couldn't agree more!
Looking at buy one second hand, any issues with battery life?
He's selling it before the Battery goes 😂😂 the battery costs the same as the car second hand@kevinbruyne
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Congrats!
How expensive are replacements parts? Because i can get a good used deal but i have no idea when it’ll need parts
Hi ya fantastic content as always
On a different note can you tell me make and model of you joggers please
Tim
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Thanks Tim. Don’t know if you’re being serious or not 😂
@DrivenPlus Hi yes I'm serious
Tax implications aside, this is far from the best 3 Series to use as a daily driver. I've driven several thousand miles in a 330e and found it to be a mixed bag. The 3 Series traits are all there - and they remain excellent - however the engine is the downside. To use one, it's only really viable if one has the ability to charge at home. Without that, range anxiety comes into the equation as one is always looking at the battery range. Unquestionably, the best all-round daily 3 Series is the M340d. Handsome, fast, fun and economical.
3 years ago, I reserved a Mazda 3 as a rental. They gave me a 6 level upgrade to a BMW 330e (it was the prior gen). I didn't know the nuances of the car and wasn't familiar with anything. I just put it in Sport mode and drove it for 2 days. Although I had regularly driven my sons' 340i / M340i's, I did not like them enough to consider them. The 330e, in sport mode, has incredible off the line acceleration and it got over 30 MPG. I was looking for a new car. I had driven so many cars up to 50k USD and nothing impressed me, until I drove the 330e. 8 months later I bought one. I'm on 2 years now. I still drive my sons cars from time to time and I still like the 330e better. It's like owning 2 cars. Drive it efficiently, and 40 MPG is easily achievable. Drive it like a teenager and you'll have a big smile on your face.
range anxiety in a PHEV? That makes no sense. My 330e gets 40-50 mpg on the highway in sport mode. Don't drain the battery to empty, it gets way worse gas mileage at the point. Idk why they made it like that, because the battery capacity holds more or less constant in sport mode, but that's how it works.
@@noahmcdaniel4920 Your reply is contradictory. ''Don't drain the battery'' you say. That is precisely why I got range anxiety. Also, without the battery you lose around 100bhp and it isn't good for the engine, according to BMW with whom I spoke on the matter. Unless for tax reasons or the desire for a brand new car, there is no good reason not to buy the M340d over the 330e.
@diremond3700 that makes no sense. You have range anxiety about having to use the gas engine and getting 40-50 mpg? Literally makes no sense. Like I said, turn on sport mode at 25% battery. Save your last 25% for your last ~6-7 miles home.
If you charge your 330e nightly and drive less than
@@noahmcdaniel4920 I suggest you reread my original comment re charging.
The M340d is a superior car and one that I would recommend to anyone who wants a fast, fun, economical and presitge car without spending a fortune.
Your claim that the car doesn't lose power without the hybrid boost is entirely false.
Yes, I've owned both and done thousands of miles in each, many more in the M340d as it was so good.
Your opinion is your prerogative, but facts and personal experience remain the same.
Enjoy your car.
Vs 330i and 330d in acceleration?
The missus bought one last year....she can get through a week on near full electric mode as she can charge it for free in work...16km away. Ive only averaged 36 mpg. Its a good car and has more than enough power for anybody. However, we also have a 10 year old mondeo titanium.....and apart from not being half as fast it does literally everything better.....61 mpg on long cruises and more refined. Just my opinion of course.
61 mpg? is that mondeo a tdci?
I have got myself a Mondeo Titanium aswell they are brilliant cars it does everything really well
If you're averaging 36mpg in the 330e even with a battery that isn't fully charged, you're literally driving it wrong.
The major issue is the size of the boot, I cannot fit my large suitcase in the boot.
It’s a shame
Back seat.. 😂
Is it close/ comparable to m340i? Is it faster than 330d?
No and No
@@adams7405 its faster than 330d but not compareable to 340i
Max. Another fantastic insight and review. Correct me if it's wrong, but I think I read that if you put your destination into the sat nav,.the 330e " calculates" when you will be driving in cities ( as in say Manchester) and " keep" enough electric power thereby allowing you to drive through the city on EV power...with all the obvious savings?
No doubt a good accountant would help a self employed person with a 330e! 👍👌
Thanks Keith! Think you’re right about the Nav and battery consumption.
For US models - it must be in Hybrid Eco Pro mode (which is the "least fun" mode that the car has) for the in car nav to optimize engine/battery usage based on highway and city driving.
Who the feck wants to get to company meetings quicker?
Hah exactly what I was thinking!!
Anyone here who has more than 100k kilometers on it? Experience?
To me this car offers no benefit over a regular car and more penalties in cost and weight.
For people looking to have a company car it has its benefits
There is no penalty in cost, and the benefits are that it's far more practical unless you have extremely high electricity costs.
@noahmcdaniel4920 That is if you constantly keep it on charge, which most people won't.
@@kurtgabbidon2666 that’s some logic. If you don’t have access to charging, then don’t buy a PHEV. The car charges overnight on a household outlet. If you’re too lazy to plug it in when it’s low that’s your fault, and this is not an issue for most PHEV owners.
Hate the infotainment dash. I prefer vertical. Real leather seats are probably $10k more. This host is chubs. Volvo has more horsepower and is more efficient and faster 0-60
Nobody asked you
Money pit as economy is terrible and the battery costs £10k to replace
Lol clueless take. The economy is terrible? It costs $2-3 to charge and you get upwards of 20-30 miles a day out of it depending on driving conditions and habits. That means if you're driving less than 30 miles a day your fuel cost is comparable to a prius. It's even better if you live somewhere gas prices are higher than the US. And the mpg estimates are nonsense. If you don't drain the battery first, sport mode holds the battery constant and gets 50 mpg on the highway. Even if it didn't get better mpg than the gas version, with 20-30+ miles a day at a highly efficient cost it's going to be dramatically cheaper on fuel for almost every usecase.
As for the battery being $10k to replace, EV batteries last upwards of 150-200k miles, and being a PHEV only a portion of your miles will be in EV mode. This trope that PHEV's are twice the maintenance is utter nonsense. You're splitting the wear and tear between two powertrains, not doubling it, which means each powertrain remains lightly used for much longer. Would you rather have a ICE/EV with 100k miles on it, or a PHEV with 50k miles on the the ICE and fuel/emissions system and 50k on the EV motor/battery. It's a no brainer. Hybrids are already known to require less maintenance and repair than ICE's, and PHEV's are even better in that regard.
Hi again
I'm not a weirdo
Just like what your wearing
Please what are you joggers
Tim
Ps
I do watch all your content
Great
Please keep it up
Tim
Hi Tim,
I’ve had them for years, they’re Nike and that’s all I know sorry
Max
Get a touring is far better.
Yes but only petrol, not that hybrid shit. Prefer more 340i
Not really a 340i rival is it? More a 330d rival