Great stuff TIPS you can buy Metal L brackets with slots instead of holes this way you can slide adjust the piezo up against the skin also the foam pad is your main flaw it's not dense enough try one of those white magic foam sponges or you can get ladies make up sponges a pyramid shape can be cut with a sharp blade but a more dense (less air bubble ) foam is the way you can buy Roland replacement foams but easy to replicate them by sticking thinner foam sheet together and use foam double sided tape to stick the foam to foam and foam to gaffa tape Your method of using gaffe to skin is a good idea as you mentioned it leaves no residue when you have to replace foam note foam does deteriorate over years and it's a good idea to replace them if the triggering looses accuracy all best Lune Takahashi (Roland engineering )
I really appreciate that you didn't edit out your mistakes, as it makes the project feel less daunting for me to tackle. I plan to give this a try for my acoustic-to-electronic conversion. The only difference is that I plan to use the vent hole for the jack, because I like the clean look.
I have an acoustic kit and can't use it because it's really loud. I think I'm gonna make those dual zone triggers and stick them in a ddrum DDTi with mesh heads. Thanks for the video!
Basic and to the point. I like how you leave your mistakes in the video, they are the ones that most people make. I will be attempting to make a floor/foot drum type of unit shortly and this video has helped a lot, i will be using a Roland TD3 module and foot size plywood boxes for the different drum chambers and i never gave it a thought of using dish spongers as packing for the piezo discs. Thanks for a great video.
Just the one I was looking for because you followed the diagram of Roland and I didnt know how until I found your video. Some people they wire up their Piezos the other way around ie: The Head and Ring have opposite Polarity against each other, no wonder it never worked on my Roland lol. Cheers
hey Justin. good video, nice idea. it is interesting to see how even with the foam obtained from a dish sponge it's possible to make trigger well a mesh head. I tried to download the wiring diagram, but it didn't work. Is there another page where I can download it? could you tell me the brand of that e-Crash and e-Ride you use? where did you buy them?
I just bought the Ludwig Black Magic 14” by 8” after playing the Tama Jam FLYER and Alesis Nitro for 4 months. My mind is exploding looking at a 14” snare drum in front of me. So when people think the Flyer 10” is too small, after playing it for a while the 14” normal snare drum feels like my base drum. This will take awhile. Are snare drums really 14”? I could build an apartment in this.
I know, I have the flyer at home and the mini in my studio now and when I see normal sized drums they look like they made for giants, haha. 14" snares look freaking HUGE, haha.
I'm planning on doing this. Is your head trigger directly against the underside of the head? It looks like it goes from the head, a few layers of gaffer tape, piezo, foam, then l-bracet. Great Channel. Thanks for the content!
Hey good job I am so out there I couldn’t figure out the wiring! I took my Yamaha stage acoustic set of 5 and I put the female TRS JACKS THRU THE AIR VENT HOLES IT TOOK SOME TIME OPENING UP THE AIR VENT HOOES ENOUGH SO TO ALLOW FOR THE OTHER END TO COME OUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AIR VENT HOLE SO I COULD PUT THE NUT ON I WENT TO HOME DEPOT AND BOUGHT A 6 foot by 1” aluminum bar and made a 1 inch by 3/8 slit down two of each so as to slide the bar up or down leaving about an 8th inch gap from heads I did this for all my pieces of drums. That way I can go up or down in adjusting the piezos. I got a Dtx 900 e for my module because I believe Yamaha has more acoustic sounding drums than Roland. But thank you you are so funny
For the author: AWESOME video! I am about to do one trigger myself using a cheap tambourine-like instrument we have in Brazil and a mesh head, and there's one thing I'd like to clarify: if the piezo goes directly on the mesh, what's the foam used for? Is it to avoid triggering the mesh piezo when we hit the rim? I saw some DYI videos where people use a foam cone that touches the mesh, and the piezo is placed under this foam cone.
honestly it just depends on the foam, piezo, how sensitive you want it to be. Both ways will work. It will definitely be less of a hot spot if the piezo is under the foam.
Hi Justin. Another great video. I really like how you break down the simplicity of how a drum trigger actually works and operates. It looks very simple to build and functional. I am wondering where did you get your rubber rim silencer? What are the dimension and "shape" of your rubber strip. It looks very cool. Thanks.
Would it matter if I made my drums skinnier? Like chopping half of the wood off? They don't have bottom heads already. I haven't played it in years because I need a quiet set. I am thinking of buying an alesis module and electric cymbals / goedrum hi hat and making the triggers myself.
the depth really won't matter much if you don't have bottom heads already. My only real advice is not to buy an Alesis module. Get a Roland, you'll have far less headaches with trigger settings on acoustic drums.
If the sponge is soft like this one, then it'll need a bit of pressure, but if you're using a more firm foam, then only a slight contact with the head is alll you'll need.
If you were making an external dual zone trigger would it be possible to use paint Sticks attach them to the L brackets and then all the other components?
New sub here. Very interesting! I just got a Nitro Mesh kit last month. Opened up the snare and there was a little pcb circuit connected to female stereo plug. How were you able to make you DIY snare work with it though? The piezos are connected straight to the female stereo port. I hope you can answer my question. I'm planning on making one as well with an acoustic snare. Having problems hitting the 8 inchsnare of the Nitro.
There’s nothing complicated about drum triggers. The circuit board was probably because the nitro snare uses 4 sensors and it was all wired up together
@@demonicsweaters wow! First off, thank you for replying! I see that explains the DIY triggers not needing circuitry. Again, thank you and more power to your channel and other platforms you are in!
Where’s the link for the wiring?
Great stuff
TIPS you can buy Metal L brackets with slots instead of holes this way you can slide adjust the piezo up against the skin also the foam pad is your main flaw it's not dense enough try one of those white magic foam sponges or you can get ladies make up sponges a pyramid shape can be cut with a sharp blade but a more dense (less air bubble ) foam is the way you can buy Roland replacement foams but easy to replicate them by sticking thinner foam sheet together and use foam double sided tape to stick the foam to foam and foam to gaffa tape
Your method of using gaffe to skin is a good idea as you mentioned it leaves no residue when you have to replace foam note foam does deteriorate over years and it's a good idea to replace them if the triggering looses accuracy all best Lune Takahashi (Roland engineering )
Great tips!
I really appreciate that you didn't edit out your mistakes, as it makes the project feel less daunting for me to tackle. I plan to give this a try for my acoustic-to-electronic conversion. The only difference is that I plan to use the vent hole for the jack, because I like the clean look.
Ordered all the stuff for this build! The only thing I can get to work is the wiring diargram will not load anymore! Is there any way to get it now?
I have an acoustic kit and can't use it because it's really loud. I think I'm gonna make those dual zone triggers and stick them in a ddrum DDTi with mesh heads. Thanks for the video!
awesome! good luck with your project!
Go maybe with drum tech real feel mesh heads three ply abd they w work great
Basic and to the point. I like how you leave your mistakes in the video, they are the ones that most people make. I will be attempting to make a floor/foot drum type of unit shortly and this video has helped a lot, i will be using a Roland TD3 module and foot size plywood boxes for the different drum chambers and i never gave it a thought of using dish spongers as packing for the piezo discs. Thanks for a great video.
Just the one I was looking for because you followed the diagram of Roland and I didnt know how until I found your video. Some people they wire up their Piezos the other way around ie: The Head and Ring have opposite Polarity against each other, no wonder it never worked on my Roland lol. Cheers
You sir are awesome. I got a 12 inch snare that's been collecting dust in a closet. It finally has a purpose again
Nice!
I’m late to the game but great vid and great channel Justin!
hey Justin. good video, nice idea. it is interesting to see how even with the foam obtained from a dish sponge it's possible to make trigger well a mesh head. I tried to download the wiring diagram, but it didn't work. Is there another page where I can download it? could you tell me the brand of that e-Crash and e-Ride you use? where did you buy them?
How do you wire a multipe piezo to one Head output?
I just bought the Ludwig Black Magic 14” by 8” after playing the Tama Jam FLYER and Alesis Nitro for 4 months. My mind is exploding looking at a 14” snare drum in front of me. So when people think the Flyer 10” is too small, after playing it for a while the 14” normal snare drum feels like my base drum. This will take awhile. Are snare drums really 14”? I could build an apartment in this.
I know, I have the flyer at home and the mini in my studio now and when I see normal sized drums they look like they made for giants, haha. 14" snares look freaking HUGE, haha.
I'm planning on doing this.
Is your head trigger directly against the underside of the head? It looks like it goes from the head, a few layers of gaffer tape, piezo, foam, then l-bracet.
Great Channel. Thanks for the content!
The "demonicsweaters" link to the wiring diagram, does NOT work.
Hey good job I am so out there I couldn’t figure out the wiring! I took my Yamaha stage acoustic set of 5 and I put the female TRS JACKS THRU THE AIR VENT HOLES IT TOOK SOME TIME OPENING UP THE AIR VENT HOOES ENOUGH SO TO ALLOW FOR THE OTHER END TO COME OUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AIR VENT HOLE SO I COULD PUT THE NUT ON I WENT TO HOME DEPOT AND BOUGHT A 6 foot by 1” aluminum bar and made a 1 inch by 3/8 slit down two of each so as to slide the bar up or down leaving about an 8th inch gap from heads I did this for all my pieces of drums. That way I can go up or down in adjusting the piezos. I got a Dtx 900 e for my module because I believe Yamaha has more acoustic sounding drums than Roland. But thank you you are so funny
For the author: AWESOME video!
I am about to do one trigger myself using a cheap tambourine-like instrument we have in Brazil and a mesh head, and there's one thing I'd like to clarify: if the piezo goes directly on the mesh, what's the foam used for? Is it to avoid triggering the mesh piezo when we hit the rim? I saw some DYI videos where people use a foam cone that touches the mesh, and the piezo is placed under this foam cone.
honestly it just depends on the foam, piezo, how sensitive you want it to be. Both ways will work. It will definitely be less of a hot spot if the piezo is under the foam.
Hi Justin. Another great video. I really like how you break down the simplicity of how a drum trigger actually works and operates. It looks very simple to build and functional. I am wondering where did you get your rubber rim silencer? What are the dimension and "shape" of your rubber strip. It looks very cool. Thanks.
I got it from Amazon, amzn.to/3uyTunC
Great tutorial..thanks :o) How would you do that on a bass drum?
A similar way, but bass drums can be a bit more difficult for accurate triggering. The bigger the drum, the harder it is to get a good response.
Can create rim shot to the roland td 7 will do?
Would it matter if I made my drums skinnier? Like chopping half of the wood off? They don't have bottom heads already. I haven't played it in years because I need a quiet set. I am thinking of buying an alesis module and electric cymbals / goedrum hi hat and making the triggers myself.
the depth really won't matter much if you don't have bottom heads already. My only real advice is not to buy an Alesis module. Get a Roland, you'll have far less headaches with trigger settings on acoustic drums.
Hi, what should be the distance from the foam to the mesh head?
Slightly touching? Pressed?
Thanks
If the sponge is soft like this one, then it'll need a bit of pressure, but if you're using a more firm foam, then only a slight contact with the head is alll you'll need.
An 1/8 inch from the mesh head
Nice video. I see you have a ddrum red shot too. Is it comparable to the one zone diy piezo internal trigger?
Yes, my experience the Red Shots work really well on toms and snares for single zone
Brilliant Vid as always , keep up the good work brother ✌️
Thank you!
Love the creative of diy
Piezo 27mm or 35mm??
I used 27mm
Can you use it for yamaha module?
you may need to find a wiring diagram for Yamaha, not sure if it's different. I don't have Yamaha stuff.
Hey Justin great video but just one question. Will this work with Roland modules?
Yep
If you were making an external dual zone trigger would it be possible to use paint Sticks attach them to the L brackets and then all the other components?
Maybe glue a couple of paint sticks together to form a thicker surface? Idk 🤷♂️
I'm not really sure what you mean by this.
Very nice… can i ask, what module are u using? Thx so much
roland TD-5 / Nitro in this particular video
New sub here. Very interesting! I just got a Nitro Mesh kit last month. Opened up the snare and there was a little pcb circuit connected to female stereo plug. How were you able to make you DIY snare work with it though? The piezos are connected straight to the female stereo port.
I hope you can answer my question. I'm planning on making one as well with an acoustic snare. Having problems hitting the 8 inchsnare of the Nitro.
There’s nothing complicated about drum triggers. The circuit board was probably because the nitro snare uses 4 sensors and it was all wired up together
@@demonicsweaters wow! First off, thank you for replying!
I see that explains the DIY triggers not needing circuitry.
Again, thank you and more power to your channel and other platforms you are in!
@@pubgjepp9130 Thank you!
Great brother!! Big hug from argentina
diagramm link doesn't work
I had this issue as well. The one he has is from Roland. Google Roland wiring diagram and you can find it. I found 2 actually
Great job and video. Thanks for sharing
Is this will work for roland td6v?
Yep
@@demonicsweaters tnx for the reply.
Where can I buy the rubber ring?
amzn.to/392Tgg3
Hey,its a stereo jack socket?
Yes, for a dual zone trigger you'll need a stereo jack
Yesssir Justin!!!!
Dope!
Great video
Thanks for the visit
Don’t see the wiring diagram.
demonicsweaters.com/2020/09/how-to-make-a-cheap-and-easy-diy-internal-dual-zone-piezo-drum-trigger/ the link is also in the video description
@@demonicsweaters hi..is not linking
@@demonicsweaters not getting the link to work on my end either
going to try this, this week. thanks man
Good luck!
Hey dude i cant get the rim to work i check all my connection in diagram but still i cant.
Ive tried it just the piezo then plug it in to the module.
@@romeguillen9400 what module are you using?
Alesis Nitro
Btw, i have 20mm piezo you think it will work for 13 inch drums or should i get the 35mm instead.
Thanks dude for the help
Really appreciated. ❤️👌
Nice!!!!
thx
you get a like for the tshirt
Dude
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