The smaller raptors really take advantage of the single rail and single seating with the tight turns. These bigger coasters kind off feel like they could have been ordinary steel coasters with higher capacity at just a minor increase of speed loss due to increased train size.
Those smaller single rails are also too intense for most people to reride and can also be quite uncomfortable. I totally get why parks are going for the more drawn out versions.
@@Howlingburd19 probably track being much more expensive as it is wider. This model seems to be preferred because it's cheap. And the T-Rex will probably never happen on large scale because it's just too big an investment.
I'm also curious how these rides feel. Even on the smaller ones you could really tell a difference between the front middle and back with the tight maneuvers, and these ones are like 30% longer. I guess in a way its good because the experience is so different in each seat but I just think that for this type of ride those trains are way too long.
I heard all the coaster enthusiasts rip Jersey Devil and trash on WW as a clone, so i went into it with low expectations. I was blown away and thought WW was a blast, and I enjoyed it even more that Stunt Pilot and Railblazer. Its a fun ride. I do agree the smaller Raptors have a bit more bite, but the extra length on WW more than makes up for it. The first drop in the backrow is easily the best in the park outside of X2.
Yeah, I have learned to not go by what the crowd says when it comes to roller coasters. Everyone has different tastes in coasters. I prefer the more compact single rails but these are fun too.
I’ve ridden WWFOC about 30 times now, but never noticed the rattle until you and Sarah pointed it out😂 Still love the ride tho but yea, that rattle… it’s… there lol
I was there at pass holder preview day and waited in line for 3 hours to ride it. The first time I ever went to a coaster opening since I became a thoosie so this coaster means a lot to me. All that being said I think it's third overall in park behind X2 and twisted Colossus but ahead of tatsu and viper for me.
I rode Jersey Devil in July and WW a few weeks ago. I agree with your observations about both coasters. I also thought they would be identical, but WW felt faster and more aggressive, maybe that extra foot gives it more momentum. TC, X2 and Tatsu are my clear top 3 at SFMM. After that, I enjoy riding FT, WCR, WW and Scream (I actually don't hate this ride as much as most). I would probably put this ride at the top of my second tier, so it's 4th on my list. FT disappoints me because of that sudden end after the tophat. If it had some Cheetah Hunt or Maverick twists before the end, it would be in my top tier list. I am from So. Cal. and hadn't ridden a coaster East of Vegas until this summer. After riding Goliath at SFOG, Nitro, Millennium Force and Mako, I truly see why Goliath at SFMM is such a disappointment. Batman, Riddler and Apocalypse are absolutely rideable, but in my third tier. I rarely ride Viper, Ninja, Superman or Revolution anymore.
I did X2 3 weeks ago, I thought I was gonna die. Not because of intense feelings, but because how hard my head was knock on the back. This is the worst experience of my whole life.
as a coaster enthusiast Twisted colossus in in a league all of it own and everything else comes next. my next best coasters are prolly full throttle followed by perhaps Tatsu (but that ride is getting boring) Here is where it gets crazy. surprisingly enough the ninja and the revolution might be next or at least very high up. Both these coasters were far better than what I imagined/remembered). X2 was way too bumpy...which is a darn shame. I would rank that lower then the other two. I have yet to ride apocalypse (pisses me off) and west coast racers and Wonder woman were not even open yet.
Rode WW for the first time a few weeks ago. I rode cowboy bc i knows it would be the best seat. Damn I had a blast on this ride. I’m on the taller side 6’2 so the seat positioning was kinda awkward for me but back row on rmc coasters seems to never disappoint. Easily top 5 coasters at sfmm imo
I was able to ride Wonder Woman in the front row and I didn’t really get what you meant by getting ejector airtime until I was able to ride it. HOLY CRAP, this ride has a ton of ejector. Especially on that raven turn and also on the airtime hill after the dive loop. This was also my first ever roller that I have ridden that is manufactured by RMC.
I was just there last week ! Weekend after Thanksgiving. Friday and Saturday were crowded, but Sunday and Monday were dead. I got a staggering 22 rides in a row ! The ride operators were awesome. Never left the back row They must have thought i broke out of lonney bin. They kept asking me if i wanted to keep going and i said "hell yes "
My top five at SFMM is 1. Twisted Colossus, 2. X2, 3. Wonder Woman, 4. Tatsu, and 5. Full Throttle. For my overall steel rankings, the raptors rank as Golden Lasso (25), RailBlazer (30), Flight of Courage (36), and Jersey Devil (39). In my opinion, Wonder Woman definitely has more airtime and stronger airtime than Jersey Devil, but I think Jersey Devil had better hangtime in the inversions since it ran slower. One thing many miss is that Wonder Woman is actually built on a slight slope, and that extra 10-15 feet allows it to maintain it's speed all the way to the end vs. Jersey Devil petering out on the last run of airtime hills.
I rode Wonder Woman: Golden Lasso Coaster at Fiesta Texas twice this past week. The shorter track layout absolutely contributes to the intensity of the ride since it feels like a lot of the turns are so compacted on the track, one element after another. I rode once in the final car, once in the 3rd car. I had my biggest grey-out in the back seat; literally felt like the tail end of a whip. Being there in the final seat through those drops, twists, and turns were seriously forceful. Make me wonder how the longer RMC Raptors like Jersey Devil truly feel.
*Warning Magic mountain rant coming * first I just want to say I very much enjoy this ride , the pacing is great. It has a fun lay out and the back is so fun getting pulled. The air time is great. I agree with all of your points and I’d rank it my 4th fav at the park .Sadly with the loose items , since this video . The other day ,someone got nailed with a flying phone from this ride and the policy might change. My other issue with this coaster is what it took out to build it. This ride took out 3 rides ( flash,tidal wave, green lantern) and 3 food/drink stands ( roasted corn, teen Titan pizza, frozen lemonade) so I am glad it is there ,but man the dc area now is pretty changed and barren of food options. But I do believe they will eventually put something there. To a larger point about magic mountain though, my goodness how they changed this park and policies recently for the worse . And I know most of these are all corporate level changes so I don’t mean to single out MM here but it is my home park so imma let it rip. No longer 365 day operational calendar ( only one is SoCal now to do so that I can think of) Huge increases pricing for ticket / season pass restructure. Meal plan taken away and now brought back but at a higher price with less food/drink. About 1/3 of food places even being open on peak days. The parks overall is just not maintained well . empty and boarded up buildings that have been that way for a decade. The waste of arenas with no shows. So many missed opportunities! This park for as hot as it gets needs more indoor rides also ! A perfect fit for this park would be a DC themed vekoma madhouse , like Houdini’s great escape at great adventure. MM does not have a joker themed attraction ( only one of the chain) theme it to him. Call it Escape from Arkham. Make it a fun themed joker dark ride. Second idea , laughing dragon Pizza that has been closed forever. Revamp that and the area . Rename it super hero summit ( instead of samari summit) have a fun bar up there with staged dc animatronics, themed drinks, cool collectible mugs. Dc villain ( happy hour) character meet and greets! Do more with your DC IP then cut outs on coasters and capes ! I know it’s not a Disney or universal but six flags if you want to charge more for your parks you have to step up your experiences and your attention to some detail. So much dead space so much missed opportunity for revenue at magic mountain for a flagship park . I got a ton more suggestion but I’ll leave it here. Sorry to anyone who made it this far down !🎢🎢🎢 . Ride on ride on ride on
My gripes are the following 1. More restrooms in the back of the park. Especially needed near DC universe 2. Line cutting. Wait your turn like everyone else 3. Chaperone policy. NEVER ENFORCED 4. Half empty seats. There is a 2 hour wait, and the trains are only half full. Put some butts in those seats !!
I got to ride WWFOC this past July and loved the hell out of it. I could see myself marathoning it. It's in my top four at the park easily. Just fun and a bit whippy. I was about 3/4 of the way back on the train. Something I think RMC would do well to explore would be a Raptor jr. They have their Wild Moose family coaster which is a great idea, but they can also do a more kid-friendly version of the single rail as another stepping stone ride for newly-minted coaster kids and for folks who haven't quite plucked up the courage for the more aggressive, hardcore thrill rides.
This was my first RMC single rail and I was blown away. Didn't find it rough and all. The pace was relentless and maybe the fact it bakes all day in that hot Cali sun has something to do with it.
that’s wild i actually found JDC to be the rougher of the two by quite a bit, but this stuff can be so temperamental so who knows. i rode JDC on like a cold damp night in May
Though I haven’t did JD, I live in California so I was happy when they built WW here. After riding WW twice…I’m freaking hooked and could marathon that ride all day. That whip action is intense regardless of where you sit. So now I gotta do lasso of truth because I know that whip is more intense
It’s an amazing coaster, I felt the rattle in my seat and thought I was final destination ending right there 😂 But I didn’t felt it after the station, it felt smooth, not full thrill smooth but damn near
I’m an unlucky one who waited in the claustrophobic line for an hour, got on, got strapped in, and they stopped the ride for maintenance. They let us wait about 10 mins before letting us get back on. we’re about to to go and they stop us again. Never got to it :( can’t wait to try it.
Rode this coaster in August and absolutely loved it. Do agree that where they put the lockers is not a good set up and the station is not as good as the waiting entry hall. But the ride was great and it was my first single rail coaster
Now you’ve ridden all existing RMCs, can/will you do an all-RMC ranking video please? It’s not really possible to do with other manufacturers who already have far more coasters but with RMC it might just about be doable still!
I rank it 4. Just behind Tatsu and in front of Apocalypse (when it isn't so rough it is trying to kill you). Magic has a great 1-2 punch but I think 3-10 it is really hard to beat and even filler rides 11-15 include good rides that most parks would love to have. Despite the pouch, was there in August when a young girl got hit by a phone from some idiot trying to film. Felt so bad for her and so angry at the idiots that need the attention of filming themselves.
Ikr...her taking a phone to the face is bad enough, but what REALLY chatted my hide was when dumb dumb told her parents "it was no big deal" Ok....if that's the case, pay for the girls medical bill.
@@seanlewis1148 It happened right before I got on for the first time. What an A-Hole. I saw the poor girl coming out of first aid. It was definitely a big deal.
Recently rode Wonder Woman. Glass smooth. I’ve ridden Railblazer, Stunt Pilot, Twisted Colossus, Wonder Woman (MM) and Joker. Felt like Wonder Woman is similar in smoothness to Twisted Colossus which is glass smooth. Railblazer is way more textured than Wonder Woman, and stunt pilot is very very smooth.
I’m pretty new to the coasters game, magic mountain is basically the only park i’ve been to, but WW is for sure top 3 for me after X2 and TC. Just in front of FT and Tatsu
Do you have a ranking of the roller coasters at Magic Mountain? Because I'd love to know where this would rank among all the other rides theyhave there.
I got to experience half of the coaster. Went on a preview day and got stuck then evac'd from the mid course. A train was stuck in the break run right about to enter the station and we got stopped for safety.
That’s so strange. I find that twisted colossus is really rough and the laterals almost hurt I cracked my neck on it. Whereas I can marathon wonder woman all day long and it’s smooth as glass and it feels like I’m flying
When a new coaster is rougher than a similar coasters, it is a substructure issue. I have ridden Jersey Devil and Railblaizer, and I disagree with the assesment on which is better. From my experience, Railblaizer is just "Jersey Devil before the midcourse" although I will give Railblaizer that it has an ever so slightly more powerful drop because of it coming off that turnaround.
Railblazer Red Train seemed rougher than WW:FoC having marathoned both in the last month. Really want to ride the 10th seat on Stunt Pilot, I think that may be the most intense seat on a Raptor...next summer. Great addition to SFMM. I wonder how many RMCs one park can get. Hope this isn't Magic Mountains last, wonder if they could RMC Viper, haha.
Im surprised you think its rough, I rode it for passholders preview and many times since and never really thought of it as rough. But I've never ridden another raptor model either, I plan on going to California's great america sometime soon though.
honestly wonder woman is in my top 5 I think it's genuinely top 2 actually - the other one being twisted colossus X2 is great but sadly I gotta put it down at 3rd just cause it's so jank; I love it and I will ride it every visit but idk if I appreciate the concussion and shin bruises that much these RMC raptors are absolutely insane
The thing with the restraints isn't about how big you are, it's about the length of your torso and the prominence of your collarbones. If you have a long torso and you can see your collarbones when you look in the mirror, THESE RESTRAINTS *WILL* HURT YOU. And not just a little bit; they will hurt you enough to severely mar your experience on the ride. I have been bruised from the restraints on WWGLC at Fiesta Texas.
I don't know if I just had a bad day with this our what... Road it for the first time today. It was down the first half of the day, but I got lucky and got in line right when it reopened. I found it extremely rough and my over should straps kept falling to the sides of my arms making it uncomfortable and a bit scary... I did not find it very fun at all... was kind of thankful for it being a quick ride. I hope everyone else can find fun in it!
Rode it for the first time a couple weeks ago. Just a strange ride. Not bad, but definitely not elite like the smaller Raptors are. It almost felt tame (apart from a couple moments). Or like a coaster I would design in RCT3. Hard to explain.
The only problem I had with this coaster was how your legs get placed. I’ve had Knee surgery and to have my knees forced inward sucked. Like once ur locked in ur in. So if you’re placed in that uncomfortable position there’s no wiggling out of it. Such a strange design for that seat. Other than that it was mine and my gfs favourite ride in the park
I’ve only ridden Jersey Devil Coaster I don’t mind these restraints I actually got a pretty fast ride the other day I did Six Flags it felt faster then the other rides I got on it
I visited SFMM in late August and WW was actually my favorite ride (followed by X2 and Twisted Colossus). Maybe it's just me, but I thought WW was the smoothest ride at the park. I thought the transitions between elements were not as janky on WW as they are on TC. I've also ridden stunt pilot and kept going back and forth on which raptor I prefer. I settled on Wonder Woman being better, but that very well could just be recency bias
I was quite disapointed with jersey devil if you sit in the back of nitro and don't get stapled you get way better airtime but I understand It could be differnet on other peoples lists becuase not everyone cares about airtime as much as me
Why does parks in America seems like they don't use lockers right next to the loading platform? That is the best way to let every customer to use their phone in the queue line while not letting any of them having stuffs during the ride; I bet you experienced this system when you visited Japan. It might hurt dispatch time a bit but would be better than not having their phones for 1 hour in the queue line in my opinion.
Have ridden Wonder Woman about 10 time since its opening and love it. Yes, the station is a nightmare - especially with the cluster at the lockers and no signage telling you which way to go after that. It's so easy to head to the exit by mistake. My biggest issue is the shoulder harnesses. I'm average and those restraints kept slipping off during the ride. Kinda scary actually. The roughness of the ride, for me, is part of its fun. It doesn't hurt but you DO get yanked around quite a bit...but feels intentional on RMC's part. As for my favorite coaster in the park: 1. Twisted Colossus - was my fave RMC until Steel Vengeance came along - but it still makes me grin and scream and laugh 2. Tatsu - that pretzel loop is just incredible - such a unique ride - truly feels like you're a flying dragon. Skip Game Of Thrones and just ride Tatsu instead! 3. Wonder Woman - Flight Of Courage - a great addition - a blast - feels like nothing else in the park 4. Full Throttle - the stall, the three launches, the surprise of the layout is so fun (esp since you can't see a lot of it from the station) 5. West Coast Racers - a dueling work of art - and a fun surprise launch or two 6. Batman - still fun after all these years 7. X2 - before it got unbearably rough - now it actually physically hurts in the outside seats 8. Goliath - way too tame and short but I like the breeze - LOL 8. Apocalypse - fast and fun but needs a retracking. It is just way too rough 9. The New Revolution - nice long ride but pretty dull and what is new about this? The VR glasses are no more. 10. Viper - OUCH! Your ears will get bruised by the shaking. Fun layout for its time but it's now way past its time, no? 11. Scream - too many inversions - lacks momentum as a result 12. Riddler's Revenge - not a huge fan of stand-up coasters, I don't feel the airtime as I do when on seated rides 13. Gold Rusher - does this even count as a coaster? Don't little kids even give this ride the side-eye? 14. Ninja - you just sway back and forth and the ride ends on a lift hill. Huh?? Who thought that was value-added fun?
I went to magic mountain this summer and rode wonder woman, and having rode jersey devil the same month I felt that jersey devil was way rougher. Jersey devil had a pretty bad rattle to be honest.
The hate green later gets isn't fair. It wasn't running correctly because of stupid laws from the state. When it first ran it was a blast. Thing flipped like crazy because the axis was squed.
@ 2:04 What the inside of a microwave or oven would look like? I guess Taylor has never used either one of these before, because I guarantee you that about 99% of us know what that looks like. And those stations and que lines don't. They look like bland, corrugated metal storage containers.
Comparing this to JD is like comparing night to day. WW is MUCH better. Even the cloned elements. We didn't find it rough, at all. JD had more vibration.
The ride would have been awesome if I wasn’t focused on an excruciating hip cramp that occurred right as I was secured and wedged in to the most uncomfortable position for me, having to spread my feet wide over a hump with my knees wedged in close together. WTF?? I don’t know how anyone else can stand it? I think my anatomy is a little uncommon, a little bow legged, always kind a got cramps on wave runners and some motorcycles, but this was beyond anything I’ve experienced before. I’m 5’1l, male, 175 lbs. 50. I stretch all the time. Just me? Anyone else?
Jersey Devil was a big disappointment to me. I rode it once in the front in the beginning of the day. The experience seemed jenky and the restraints weren't comfy. Seemed like magnum but even worse on the thighs. I can reride magnum but Jersey devil was one and done for me. Everyone in my party agreed. Is flight of courage really that much better?
100%, I rode JD recently just to see for myself which one rides better and not listen to the critics. The first half like Taylor said kind of feels the same but I did notice a slight difference with WW vs JD, but I’m sorry I know everyone says the second half now is the same since the wheels got better. I have to disagree WW after the MCBR is way faster than JD and you get some good airtime. I have to say WW is just better. Some trains on WW do feel a little jenky but it’s really not bad some trains are smooth though.. it all depends . I’ve marathoned WW lots of times, it’s overall a fun ride.
This got a review? It’s a clone of devil. The two small elements don’t matter to me when the rest of the layout is exactly the same. I can never really put a clone ahead of a original coaster. Like over Georgia has the first super man flyer so that would go first before the other two.
But it's not really true clone. There are two extra elements and it runs on the opposite side that NJD does. Also bear in mind that Magic Mountain had the tracks in wait before Six Flags NJ. . Had the pandemic not hit Cali the way it did WWFOC would have opened before.
The smaller raptors really take advantage of the single rail and single seating with the tight turns. These bigger coasters kind off feel like they could have been ordinary steel coasters with higher capacity at just a minor increase of speed loss due to increased train size.
Those smaller single rails are also too intense for most people to reride and can also be quite uncomfortable. I totally get why parks are going for the more drawn out versions.
I don’t understand why they haven’t done a T-Rex yet. I feel like that model would surely fit what these bigger Raptors are trying to be
@@Howlingburd19 the T-Rex model wasn't ready when these rides were purchased
@@Howlingburd19 probably track being much more expensive as it is wider. This model seems to be preferred because it's cheap. And the T-Rex will probably never happen on large scale because it's just too big an investment.
I'm also curious how these rides feel. Even on the smaller ones you could really tell a difference between the front middle and back with the tight maneuvers, and these ones are like 30% longer. I guess in a way its good because the experience is so different in each seat but I just think that for this type of ride those trains are way too long.
I heard all the coaster enthusiasts rip Jersey Devil and trash on WW as a clone, so i went into it with low expectations. I was blown away and thought WW was a blast, and I enjoyed it even more that Stunt Pilot and Railblazer. Its a fun ride. I do agree the smaller Raptors have a bit more bite, but the extra length on WW more than makes up for it. The first drop in the backrow is easily the best in the park outside of X2.
Yeah, I have learned to not go by what the crowd says when it comes to roller coasters. Everyone has different tastes in coasters. I prefer the more compact single rails but these are fun too.
This ride was the craziest experience I’ve ever had.
I’ve ridden WWFOC about 30 times now, but never noticed the rattle until you and Sarah pointed it out😂 Still love the ride tho but yea, that rattle… it’s… there lol
Makes me want to ride more rollercoasters
I was there at pass holder preview day and waited in line for 3 hours to ride it. The first time I ever went to a coaster opening since I became a thoosie so this coaster means a lot to me. All that being said I think it's third overall in park behind X2 and twisted Colossus but ahead of tatsu and viper for me.
I rode Jersey Devil in July and WW a few weeks ago. I agree with your observations about both coasters. I also thought they would be identical, but WW felt faster and more aggressive, maybe that extra foot gives it more momentum.
TC, X2 and Tatsu are my clear top 3 at SFMM. After that, I enjoy riding FT, WCR, WW and Scream (I actually don't hate this ride as much as most). I would probably put this ride at the top of my second tier, so it's 4th on my list. FT disappoints me because of that sudden end after the tophat. If it had some Cheetah Hunt or Maverick twists before the end, it would be in my top tier list.
I am from So. Cal. and hadn't ridden a coaster East of Vegas until this summer. After riding Goliath at SFOG, Nitro, Millennium Force and Mako, I truly see why Goliath at SFMM is such a disappointment. Batman, Riddler and Apocalypse are absolutely rideable, but in my third tier. I rarely ride Viper, Ninja, Superman or Revolution anymore.
I did X2 3 weeks ago, I thought I was gonna die. Not because of intense feelings, but because how hard my head was knock on the back. This is the worst experience of my whole life.
as a coaster enthusiast Twisted colossus in in a league all of it own and everything else comes next. my next best coasters are prolly full throttle followed by perhaps Tatsu (but that ride is getting boring) Here is where it gets crazy. surprisingly enough the ninja and the revolution might be next or at least very high up. Both these coasters were far better than what I imagined/remembered). X2 was way too bumpy...which is a darn shame. I would rank that lower then the other two. I have yet to ride apocalypse (pisses me off) and west coast racers and Wonder woman were not even open yet.
This now makes Magic Mountain the 2nd ever park to have 2 RMCs, just after Fiesta Texas, my home park.
Rode WW for the first time a few weeks ago. I rode cowboy bc i knows it would be the best seat. Damn I had a blast on this ride. I’m on the taller side 6’2 so the seat positioning was kinda awkward for me but back row on rmc coasters seems to never disappoint. Easily top 5 coasters at sfmm imo
awesome review! that lateral ejector pop in the front row on that turn around blew me away
I was able to ride Wonder Woman in the front row and I didn’t really get what you meant by getting ejector airtime until I was able to ride it. HOLY CRAP, this ride has a ton of ejector. Especially on that raven turn and also on the airtime hill after the dive loop. This was also my first ever roller that I have ridden that is manufactured by RMC.
I was just there last week ! Weekend after Thanksgiving. Friday and Saturday were crowded, but Sunday and Monday were dead. I got a staggering 22 rides in a row ! The ride operators were awesome. Never left the back row
They must have thought i broke out of lonney bin. They kept asking me if i wanted to keep going and i said "hell yes "
I think it's definitely cool that they mixed ot up a little with adding that final turn and sideways airtime hill before the brake run.
It’s my personal #2 in the park behind TC!! Loved the front! So different than the back.
I recall Taylor enjoying Green Lanturn after riding it judging by his vlog that day…
My top five at SFMM is 1. Twisted Colossus, 2. X2, 3. Wonder Woman, 4. Tatsu, and 5. Full Throttle. For my overall steel rankings, the raptors rank as Golden Lasso (25), RailBlazer (30), Flight of Courage (36), and Jersey Devil (39). In my opinion, Wonder Woman definitely has more airtime and stronger airtime than Jersey Devil, but I think Jersey Devil had better hangtime in the inversions since it ran slower. One thing many miss is that Wonder Woman is actually built on a slight slope, and that extra 10-15 feet allows it to maintain it's speed all the way to the end vs. Jersey Devil petering out on the last run of airtime hills.
I've always been interested by Wonder Woman. I need to get back to MM to ride wonder woman to have a full opinion on the ride
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I rode Wonder Woman: Golden Lasso Coaster at Fiesta Texas twice this past week. The shorter track layout absolutely contributes to the intensity of the ride since it feels like a lot of the turns are so compacted on the track, one element after another. I rode once in the final car, once in the 3rd car. I had my biggest grey-out in the back seat; literally felt like the tail end of a whip. Being there in the final seat through those drops, twists, and turns were seriously forceful. Make me wonder how the longer RMC Raptors like Jersey Devil truly feel.
*Warning Magic mountain rant coming * first I just want to say I very much enjoy this ride , the pacing is great. It has a fun lay out and the back is so fun getting pulled. The air time is great. I agree with all of your points and I’d rank it my 4th fav at the park .Sadly with the loose items , since this video . The other day ,someone got nailed with a flying phone from this ride and the policy might change. My other issue with this coaster is what it took out to build it. This ride took out 3 rides ( flash,tidal wave, green lantern) and 3 food/drink stands ( roasted corn, teen Titan pizza, frozen lemonade) so I am glad it is there ,but man the dc area now is pretty changed and barren of food options. But I do believe they will eventually put something there. To a larger point about magic mountain though, my goodness how they changed this park and policies recently for the worse . And I know most of these are all corporate level changes so I don’t mean to single out MM here but it is my home park so imma let it rip. No longer 365 day operational calendar ( only one is SoCal now to do so that I can think of) Huge increases pricing for ticket / season pass restructure. Meal plan taken away and now brought back but at a higher price with less food/drink. About 1/3 of food places even being open on peak days. The parks overall is just not maintained well . empty and boarded up buildings that have been that way for a decade. The waste of arenas with no shows. So many missed opportunities! This park for as hot as it gets needs more indoor rides also ! A perfect fit for this park would be a DC themed vekoma madhouse , like Houdini’s great escape at great adventure. MM does not have a joker themed attraction ( only one of the chain) theme it to him. Call it Escape from Arkham. Make it a fun themed joker dark ride. Second idea , laughing dragon
Pizza that has been closed forever. Revamp that and the area . Rename it super hero summit ( instead of samari summit) have a fun bar up there with staged dc animatronics, themed drinks, cool collectible mugs. Dc villain ( happy hour) character meet and greets! Do more with your DC IP then cut outs on coasters and capes ! I know it’s not a Disney or universal but six flags if you want to charge more for your parks you have to step up your experiences and your attention to some detail. So much dead space so much missed opportunity for revenue at magic mountain for a flagship park . I got a ton more suggestion but I’ll leave it here. Sorry to anyone who made it this far down !🎢🎢🎢 . Ride on ride on ride on
My gripes are the following
1. More restrooms in the back of the park. Especially needed near DC universe
2. Line cutting. Wait your turn like everyone else
3. Chaperone policy. NEVER ENFORCED
4. Half empty seats. There is a 2 hour wait, and the trains are only half full. Put some butts in those seats !!
I got to ride WWFOC this past July and loved the hell out of it. I could see myself marathoning it. It's in my top four at the park easily. Just fun and a bit whippy. I was about 3/4 of the way back on the train. Something I think RMC would do well to explore would be a Raptor jr. They have their Wild Moose family coaster which is a great idea, but they can also do a more kid-friendly version of the single rail as another stepping stone ride for newly-minted coaster kids and for folks who haven't quite plucked up the courage for the more aggressive, hardcore thrill rides.
This was my first RMC single rail and I was blown away. Didn't find it rough and all. The pace was relentless and maybe the fact it bakes all day in that hot Cali sun has something to do with it.
I would love to see more of the smaller ones
I agree with you!
this ride kicks. I totally agree with the roughness, it had jitters and bumps which was just so weird to feel on an RMC. I rank it 3rd in the park.
that’s wild i actually found JDC to be the rougher of the two by quite a bit, but this stuff can be so temperamental so who knows. i rode JDC on like a cold damp night in May
My top 3 coasters here are ALL made by Alan Schilke. Just goes to show that he is an absolute madman in coaster design.
Yup...that man knows how to build a coaster !!
I definitely felt a difference between Jersey Devil and this. It felt way faster paced than JDC, and the second half was amazing.
Though I haven’t did JD, I live in California so I was happy when they built WW here. After riding WW twice…I’m freaking hooked and could marathon that ride all day. That whip action is intense regardless of where you sit. So now I gotta do lasso of truth because I know that whip is more intense
It’s an amazing coaster, I felt the rattle in my seat and thought I was final destination ending right there 😂
But I didn’t felt it after the station, it felt smooth, not full thrill smooth but damn near
This might be a stupid question, but are Six Flags: Fiesta, and Six Flags: Magic Mountain the same thing?
No. Not by a long shot
I’m an unlucky one who waited in the claustrophobic line for an hour, got on, got strapped in, and they stopped the ride for maintenance. They let us wait about 10 mins before letting us get back on. we’re about to to go and they stop us again. Never got to it :( can’t wait to try it.
Rode this coaster in August and absolutely loved it. Do agree that where they put the lockers is not a good set up and the station is not as good as the waiting entry hall. But the ride was great and it was my first single rail coaster
Now you’ve ridden all existing RMCs, can/will you do an all-RMC ranking video please? It’s not really possible to do with other manufacturers who already have far more coasters but with RMC it might just about be doable still!
That’s the plan! Waiting to do that till after an Untamed review is up- that’s the last one that hasn’t gotten a review yet!
@@CoasterStudios Good news! Congratulations of completing the current set!
I rank it 4. Just behind Tatsu and in front of Apocalypse (when it isn't so rough it is trying to kill you). Magic has a great 1-2 punch but I think 3-10 it is really hard to beat and even filler rides 11-15 include good rides that most parks would love to have. Despite the pouch, was there in August when a young girl got hit by a phone from some idiot trying to film. Felt so bad for her and so angry at the idiots that need the attention of filming themselves.
Ikr...her taking a phone to the face is bad enough, but what REALLY chatted my hide was when dumb dumb told her parents "it was no big deal"
Ok....if that's the case, pay for the girls medical bill.
@@seanlewis1148 It happened right before I got on for the first time. What an A-Hole. I saw the poor girl coming out of first aid. It was definitely a big deal.
When do the coastin’ thru Europe episodes start again?
This weekend!
Wonder Woman cramps my legs but still a top 5 for me at the park
Recently rode Wonder Woman. Glass smooth. I’ve ridden Railblazer, Stunt Pilot, Twisted Colossus, Wonder Woman (MM) and Joker.
Felt like Wonder Woman is similar in smoothness to Twisted Colossus which is glass smooth.
Railblazer is way more textured than Wonder Woman, and stunt pilot is very very smooth.
This was way better than the smaller one at fiesta Texas
I’m pretty new to the coasters game, magic mountain is basically the only park i’ve been to, but WW is for sure top 3 for me after X2 and TC. Just in front of FT and Tatsu
Are the constraints different than Fiesta Texas? Like version 2.0? I did find that one's restraints digged into my shoulders.
Do you have a ranking of the roller coasters at Magic Mountain? Because I'd love to know where this would rank among all the other rides theyhave there.
I got to experience half of the coaster. Went on a preview day and got stuck then evac'd from the mid course. A train was stuck in the break run right about to enter the station and we got stopped for safety.
Are you going to rank the mm coasters?
That’s so strange. I find that twisted colossus is really rough and the laterals almost hurt I cracked my neck on it. Whereas I can marathon wonder woman all day long and it’s smooth as glass and it feels like I’m flying
Will you guys be at Iappa this year?? This is my first year going and I am really excited
We go every year!
The roughness may be due to earthquake regulations
When a new coaster is rougher than a similar coasters, it is a substructure issue. I have ridden Jersey Devil and Railblaizer, and I disagree with the assesment on which is better. From my experience, Railblaizer is just "Jersey Devil before the midcourse" although I will give Railblaizer that it has an ever so slightly more powerful drop because of it coming off that turnaround.
Railblazer Red Train seemed rougher than WW:FoC having marathoned both in the last month. Really want to ride the 10th seat on Stunt Pilot, I think that may be the most intense seat on a Raptor...next summer. Great addition to SFMM. I wonder how many RMCs one park can get. Hope this isn't Magic Mountains last, wonder if they could RMC Viper, haha.
Im surprised you think its rough, I rode it for passholders preview and many times since and never really thought of it as rough. But I've never ridden another raptor model either, I plan on going to California's great america sometime soon though.
I hate that Great Adventure doesn’t do this with their rides with the pouches
honestly wonder woman is in my top 5
I think it's genuinely top 2 actually - the other one being twisted colossus
X2 is great but sadly I gotta put it down at 3rd just cause it's so jank; I love it and I will ride it every visit but idk if I appreciate the concussion and shin bruises that much
these RMC raptors are absolutely insane
The thing with the restraints isn't about how big you are, it's about the length of your torso and the prominence of your collarbones. If you have a long torso and you can see your collarbones when you look in the mirror, THESE RESTRAINTS *WILL* HURT YOU. And not just a little bit; they will hurt you enough to severely mar your experience on the ride. I have been bruised from the restraints on WWGLC at Fiesta Texas.
I don't know if I just had a bad day with this our what... Road it for the first time today. It was down the first half of the day, but I got lucky and got in line right when it reopened. I found it extremely rough and my over should straps kept falling to the sides of my arms making it uncomfortable and a bit scary... I did not find it very fun at all... was kind of thankful for it being a quick ride.
I hope everyone else can find fun in it!
Rode it for the first time a couple weeks ago. Just a strange ride. Not bad, but definitely not elite like the smaller Raptors are. It almost felt tame (apart from a couple moments). Or like a coaster I would design in RCT3. Hard to explain.
At least it’s not a 100% clone of Jersey Devil Coaster
top 2 at park for me, right behind tatsu and 1 ahead of x2
The only problem I had with this coaster was how your legs get placed. I’ve had Knee surgery and to have my knees forced inward sucked. Like once ur locked in ur in. So if you’re placed in that uncomfortable position there’s no wiggling out of it. Such a strange design for that seat. Other than that it was mine and my gfs favourite ride in the park
I’ve only ridden Jersey Devil Coaster I don’t mind these restraints I actually got a pretty fast ride the other day I did Six Flags it felt faster then the other rides I got on it
I visited SFMM in late August and WW was actually my favorite ride (followed by X2 and Twisted Colossus). Maybe it's just me, but I thought WW was the smoothest ride at the park. I thought the transitions between elements were not as janky on WW as they are on TC. I've also ridden stunt pilot and kept going back and forth on which raptor I prefer. I settled on Wonder Woman being better, but that very well could just be recency bias
A possible video on roller coasters ranking at SFMM?
If the restraints on Jersey Devil are anything to go by, this ride will absolutely kill your thighs.
I was quite disapointed with jersey devil if you sit in the back of nitro and don't get stapled you get way better airtime but I understand It could be differnet on other peoples lists becuase not everyone cares about airtime as much as me
I don't understand how a new coaster can be so rough. It really kicks. Also, the seats hurt pretty bad when you're tall, giving you thigh cramps :(
The ranks very high for me at this park
It's 3rd behind X2 and Twisted Colossus.
Why does parks in America seems like they don't use lockers right next to the loading platform? That is the best way to let every customer to use their phone in the queue line while not letting any of them having stuffs during the ride; I bet you experienced this system when you visited Japan. It might hurt dispatch time a bit but would be better than not having their phones for 1 hour in the queue line in my opinion.
3:15 Thank god they learned from JDC, seriously it’s so annoying how strict they are with it.
I think the strictness with Jersey Devil is due to New Jersey just not knowing how to do things.
Have ridden Wonder Woman about 10 time since its opening and love it. Yes, the station is a nightmare - especially with the cluster at the lockers and no signage telling you which way to go after that. It's so easy to head to the exit by mistake. My biggest issue is the shoulder harnesses. I'm average and those restraints kept slipping off during the ride. Kinda scary actually. The roughness of the ride, for me, is part of its fun. It doesn't hurt but you DO get yanked around quite a bit...but feels intentional on RMC's part. As for my favorite coaster in the park:
1. Twisted Colossus - was my fave RMC until Steel Vengeance came along - but it still makes me grin and scream and laugh
2. Tatsu - that pretzel loop is just incredible - such a unique ride - truly feels like you're a flying dragon. Skip Game Of Thrones and just ride Tatsu instead!
3. Wonder Woman - Flight Of Courage - a great addition - a blast - feels like nothing else in the park
4. Full Throttle - the stall, the three launches, the surprise of the layout is so fun (esp since you can't see a lot of it from the station)
5. West Coast Racers - a dueling work of art - and a fun surprise launch or two
6. Batman - still fun after all these years
7. X2 - before it got unbearably rough - now it actually physically hurts in the outside seats
8. Goliath - way too tame and short but I like the breeze - LOL
8. Apocalypse - fast and fun but needs a retracking. It is just way too rough
9. The New Revolution - nice long ride but pretty dull and what is new about this? The VR glasses are no more.
10. Viper - OUCH! Your ears will get bruised by the shaking. Fun layout for its time but it's now way past its time, no?
11. Scream - too many inversions - lacks momentum as a result
12. Riddler's Revenge - not a huge fan of stand-up coasters, I don't feel the airtime as I do when on seated rides
13. Gold Rusher - does this even count as a coaster? Don't little kids even give this ride the side-eye?
14. Ninja - you just sway back and forth and the ride ends on a lift hill. Huh?? Who thought that was value-added fun?
This probably runs faster and is a bit rougher because of how the weather is like in California
I went to magic mountain this summer and rode wonder woman, and having rode jersey devil the same month I felt that jersey devil was way rougher. Jersey devil had a pretty bad rattle to be honest.
Am I the only one that loves insane at Grona??!
I say
1st The 4th dimension
2nd Tatsu
3rd Wonder/twisted ????
What you guys think 🤔
I will rank WW on my top 3, I don't think any ride can take X2 of my number 1. 2 is TC. WW took over Tatsu as #3
The hate green later gets isn't fair. It wasn't running correctly because of stupid laws from the state. When it first ran it was a blast. Thing flipped like crazy because the axis was squed.
@ 2:04 What the inside of a microwave or oven would look like? I guess Taylor has never used either one of these before, because I guarantee you that about 99% of us know what that looks like. And those stations and que lines don't. They look like bland, corrugated metal storage containers.
I Broke my phone on Wonder Woman because I didn't put it in the pouch
Wish they remained me about the pouch before putting the lap bar down
nice
The one in Texas is not lasso of truth it’s golden lasso coaster Just in case you’d like to edit that video for that reason
De he just say “Wonder Woman Lasso of Truth? You mean “Wonder Woman Golden Lasso Coaster 😂 8:17 couldn’t tell if it was a joke or he just forgot
There’s too many Wonder Woman names to keep track of😂
Good old Six Flags: have different rides, name them all somehow after the same superhero, slap on a paint job and ship it out
I just wished more RMC's existed in europe we only have 3 and no raptors yet, when will america stop having them all and share them out
8:15 "wonder wonder lasso of truth"
Dont you mean Wonder Woman golden lasso coaster?
Yes, sorry. Too many wonder woman’s to keep track of lol
Comparing this to JD is like comparing night to day. WW is MUCH better. Even the cloned elements. We didn't find it rough, at all. JD had more vibration.
I must be the only person in the world who really enjoyed Green Lantern :(
Wonder Woman Lasso of Truth i think you mean Wonder Woman Golden Lasso Coaster!
Sorry there’s way too many Wonder Woman rides to keep track of lol
@@CoasterStudios lol not wrong
My wife and I found WW to be far more intense than Tatsu (our favorite at SFMM)
The ride would have been awesome if I wasn’t focused on an excruciating hip cramp that occurred right as I was secured and wedged in to the most uncomfortable position for me, having to spread my feet wide over a hump with my knees wedged in close together. WTF?? I don’t know how anyone else can stand it? I think my anatomy is a little uncommon, a little bow legged, always kind a got cramps on wave runners and some motorcycles, but this was beyond anything I’ve experienced before. I’m 5’1l, male, 175 lbs. 50. I stretch all the time. Just me? Anyone else?
Max angle is actually 87 degrees!
Oops, sorry! Was going off of RCDB and they don’t have the angle of descent listed. Looked vertical to me😬
@@CoasterStudios feels like it too! Haha
BETTER THAN KONDAA?
The McCoaster.
The weird position the seat puts your legs in kind of ruined it for me. Had cramps in my hips the whole ride.
I disagree about the roughness. Having ridden RailBlazer many times, WW is smoother than that.
Jersey Devil was a big disappointment to me. I rode it once in the front in the beginning of the day. The experience seemed jenky and the restraints weren't comfy. Seemed like magnum but even worse on the thighs. I can reride magnum but Jersey devil was one and done for me. Everyone in my party agreed. Is flight of courage really that much better?
100%, I rode JD recently just to see for myself which one rides better and not listen to the critics. The first half like Taylor said kind of feels the same but I did notice a slight difference with WW vs JD, but I’m sorry I know everyone says the second half now is the same since the wheels got better. I have to disagree WW after the MCBR is way faster than JD and you get some good airtime. I have to say WW is just better. Some trains on WW do feel a little jenky but it’s really not bad some trains are smooth though.. it all depends . I’ve marathoned WW lots of times, it’s overall a fun ride.
Don't you mean wonder woman: golden flight of lasso courage?
Yes, sorry. Too many wonder woman’s to keep track of
This got a review? It’s a clone of devil. The two small elements don’t matter to me when the rest of the layout is exactly the same. I can never really put a clone ahead of a original coaster. Like over Georgia has the first super man flyer so that would go first before the other two.
This one is more aggressive than Jersey Devil.
@@Johnnyiswhere I still go with my point.
But it's not really true clone. There are two extra elements and it runs on the opposite side that NJD does.
Also bear in mind that Magic Mountain had the tracks in wait before Six Flags NJ. . Had the pandemic not hit Cali the way it did WWFOC would have opened before.
@@Hervinbalfour but most of the ride is the same so that’s why it’s a clone. Also jersey devil opened before this so yeah this is the clone.
Is this or Emperor’s station worse? 😅😂🙈
Unfortunately Six Flags cannot do better. They just throw new things and barely ever finish their job. It’s an amazing coaster tho.
at least six flags did better que theming than bgw for Pantheon lol!
Wonder woman’s station somehow is worse than emperors at seaworld
kewl
Ww>TC. I also thing great america’s goliath is better soo