this what i was thinking : Raymond on drums, Burton on vocals, that dude from strapping on bass ...and Dino and Christian on GUITAR !! ..that would be killer !!!
From what I've heard and understand, its likely both. After Digimortal, Burton wanted Fear Factory to break up, that's how this whole shit started. You can also see some of the signs there with the disagreements in this video. Christian wanted more hip hop in the band, and Dino was not cool with that because he's a metal head and wants Fear Factory to remain a metal band. Ultimately Dino got thrown under the bus and backstabbed because he wanted Fear Factory's core to remain unchanged. So Burton and the rest of the band got rid of Dino or Dino quit at one point, I can't remember which. Burton later regretted this and wanted Dino back, but Christian, Raymond and Raymond's wife which they owned the trademark at the time were against it, and they were going to change Fear Factory's core for the worst. So Burton went around them, and made a new Fear Factory (ie Mechanize, The Industrialist etc) with bringing Dino back, and of course this is after those guys all quit after that, but still owned the IP, apparently Burton said he'd pay to license the band's name, and he never did that, hence the 2019 lawsuit. I'm not sure how true most of it is, but it adds up. I saw this from a documentary about the band in Spanish, the full story, watched it with subtitles on, that's where I got this information from.
@@bryansteele832 This was a part of a 4 part video series that was released online to promote Digimortal. I believe it was also on the promo version of Lynchpin (or another track of Digimortal). Parts of it were used on the Digital Connectivity dvd.
What happened? I don't know. But obviously none of it was worth it for anyone. Dino can do whatever the fuck and slap the Fear Factory name on it, but I'm not buying it. 3/4 of what made this band great are now gone. These guys have not been a "band" in 20 years.
I am looking for band making Such music like for example Archetype album. I admit, I am huge Burton's fan. His City of fire project was even better than most of FF (heavier part) songs for me. The melo conbected to heavy was so perfect... I think closest i've found is Disturbed, but I know their music as good as FF. So big empty space within me since last few years... (last two FF albums was bad in my opinion). Anybody could sugest any similar vibe?
I think Burton and Dino need to watch this and listen to the praise they give Ray and Christian, they do need to return
Actually I think the other guys shouldve listened to Dino .)
I agree. When bitterness ends enemies become friends
And now Dino is the only member left of the classic line up
@@andreaslandgren1472SEPULTURA recently announced having the Cavalera brothers return
"every person in the band is a completely different person."
Burton straight in to spinal tap level insanity!
2 years later the shit hit the fan.
this what i was thinking : Raymond on drums, Burton on vocals, that dude from strapping on bass ...and Dino and Christian on GUITAR !! ..that would be killer !!!
That would be sick
Sadly dino is a big ego
sad to see this brothers falling apart !
This band is perfect!
I agree they both need to return, the band is not the same without them, and it was the BEST with them.
Love FF. Awesome video, thanks for uploading it, Stevie.
Cool footage ! Thanks !
raymond and christian should get back in the band
Sad to see this in 2021. Either some unfortunate things happened along the way or these guys are just lying to the camera
From what I've heard and understand, its likely both. After Digimortal, Burton wanted Fear Factory to break up, that's how this whole shit started. You can also see some of the signs there with the disagreements in this video. Christian wanted more hip hop in the band, and Dino was not cool with that because he's a metal head and wants Fear Factory to remain a metal band. Ultimately Dino got thrown under the bus and backstabbed because he wanted Fear Factory's core to remain unchanged. So Burton and the rest of the band got rid of Dino or Dino quit at one point, I can't remember which. Burton later regretted this and wanted Dino back, but Christian, Raymond and Raymond's wife which they owned the trademark at the time were against it, and they were going to change Fear Factory's core for the worst. So Burton went around them, and made a new Fear Factory (ie Mechanize, The Industrialist etc) with bringing Dino back, and of course this is after those guys all quit after that, but still owned the IP, apparently Burton said he'd pay to license the band's name, and he never did that, hence the 2019 lawsuit. I'm not sure how true most of it is, but it adds up. I saw this from a documentary about the band in Spanish, the full story, watched it with subtitles on, that's where I got this information from.
Found the doc once again: th-cam.com/video/OreDdGAPLWk/w-d-xo.html
4:55 Wolbers playing video games with B-Real of Cypress Hill
05:44 such a great riff
Invisible Wounds - Fear Factory
Is this from Digital Connectivity? I haven't watched that DVD in ages and this is at least very similar, if it's not from the DVD itself.
It looks like it is but I don't remember this section being that long?
@@bryansteele832 This was a part of a 4 part video series that was released online to promote Digimortal. I believe it was also on the promo version of Lynchpin (or another track of Digimortal). Parts of it were used on the Digital Connectivity dvd.
yes they are!!!
Listening to these guys talk about each other with love and respect... what the fuck happened?
Money. But one of them seems to be batshit crazy nowadays.
@@VortechBand who Dino?
@@elvissorna8861 Nope
What happened? I don't know. But obviously none of it was worth it for anyone. Dino can do whatever the fuck and slap the Fear Factory name on it, but I'm not buying it. 3/4 of what made this band great are now gone. These guys have not been a "band" in 20 years.
Money and ego. the usual stuff
Man.. there were tight then the b.s happened smh
yeah.. so true..
I am looking for band making Such music like for example Archetype album. I admit, I am huge Burton's fan. His City of fire project was even better than most of FF (heavier part) songs for me. The melo conbected to heavy was so perfect... I think closest i've found is Disturbed, but I know their music as good as FF. So big empty space within me since last few years... (last two FF albums was bad in my opinion). Anybody could sugest any similar vibe?
I really hope, Raymond will start drumming again and somehow end up with Christian and you know... Burt and Dino? :)
They really should, but I'm doubtful that will happen. They didn't really leave the band on the best of terms...
They never really left the band. Fear Factory released Transgression, and then Burton & Dino formed another version of Fear Factory.
These guys should just get back together... fuck all that shit.. not worth it.. all that good music that has driven me
3:41 Flyoffthahandle Factory FF
0:13-0:28
ROLL CALL!
Dino es el presidente
5:22 :'( Mexican brothers
FAT PS2
4:24 So happy for Christian. No one should ever have to hide their sexuality.
I don't think that's what Dino meant. I think he was referring to Christian's Hip Hop influences on his bass grooves.
@@salvadorricardojimenez5401 LMAO no shit, it was a joke.
XD that was funny
Fear factory is a fucking joke now stopped listening to anything after transgression
Dino owned the whole band right now, it's just Dino Factory
Well your missing out dude Mechanize is a banger album.