@@murkymurph8355 I no longer recommend any of the cheap android head units from amazon. Head over to Crutchfield and buy something that fits: howl.me/ck5xCM37XJZ
you let the smoke out @4:42 power up with no issue was that a joke that thing let out poof of smoke or the gremlin in it was toking up tha thing is a fire hazard
I have a question, i have the ATOTO F7 XE 10.1, it has the same EQ settings as yours does, but where my issue happens is when i adjust my subwoofer level on the stereo. I can only put it to about 4-5 and play at 30 volume without making my subwoofer amp go into protective mode. Never had this kind of issue with my older Boss stereo. Also, what would you recommend to increase the sound quality/voltage for lower volume listening. i feel like my sub doesnt really kick in until i get it up to 20+ volume
I think you have two separate issues. The first is adjusting your gain to match the head unit, the second is making sure you have good connection so it's your amplifiers getting enough power.
Atoto, Joying, Daisata, Teyes and a few others are the better ones. Realistically once they have a few upgrades like higher RCA voltage output and some software refinement in the coming years there is no way any of these traditional groups will hold up. Traditional corps are years behind and don't take any real risk or spend the R&D necessary to push the envelope. That is why a lot of these android units tend to be more raw.
A huge thing a lot of the more expensive units have is SPDIF which these units even at the higher price cost half or less of the name brand units if a digital connection is something you need. THe most expensive atoto S8 is apprx. 600.
I think the two things that are big with people that want these are that digital spdif and/or the ability to use the android store. Aka its an android tablet in your car. You might want to explore the use of apps in android headunits in the future. Netflix, Offline Maps(Google Maps). I have even seen people streaming games onto their android head unit from playstations like red dead redemption. I think the ability to use an app like torque to read from a bluetooth OBD device for all sorts of different sensors the computer looks at is really cool and the ability to say read engine codes on the fly.
i had mine for 4 months and overall, i wish i gone with a "name braned unit" - random glitches which freezes the unit and i can't do a restart without turning off the car. - Hard wire mirror to unit does not work - 1 second delay when navigating/pressing apps
I'm having great luck from the boss 10.1 elite one. Really don't have anything negative to say about it. I got a rca to hdmi connector to be able to put the firestick in the cubby behind the radio and powering the firestick and hdmi to rca converter with the 2 USB plugs that float below the dash. Pretty cool setup
@@webberfan1234 amazing really for a in car TV. We watch Netflix. Prime video, TH-cam, and TH-cam TV on it and everyone loves it. I build houses so my guys like watching it at lunch. We grab our sandwiches and off to the truck we go to catch a episode of diy audio guy 😉
@@webberfan1234 only thing I can think of negative is you get a slight hum when the trucks running from either the firestick or the hdmi converter because it's powered as well. Once the TV is playing you don't hear it in the slightest and it's not bad with nothing playing. Just a very light hum at higher volumes. I've actually hooked it to one of those 20k battery banks and there's no hum so if you wanted to use a battery pack to power those it don't have any engine noise
That’s pretty impressive. Wonder if it has an source level adjustment like my pioneer. I also had around 1.5v on the rca with the source level adjustment I was able to gain up to 4v on the rca. Clipping hit at 36 out of 40 Another great video. Cheers
I've had the atoto a6 for 3 years now and have generally been happy with its performance. I have made several 14 hour trips using this headunit, and overheating has never been a problem "it did get hot enough to burn you but not hot enough to cause it to fail". The Bluetooth module however did die on the second year, though I'd chock that up to bad luck. Oh on a separate note one of the major selling points of this type of headunit is its boot time. From turning the key to music playing it is faster than many factory headunits.
I was about to order this but i have all jl audio amps and subs and i dont like the fact that its not even sending out 2v from the preamps. Do you think the sony xau lineup will send more volts from the preamps?
I purchased a refurbished double din version of this 10.1 inch model. I paid $209. I do not have any buttons. All controls are touchscreen. It does have Android and Apple Car Play BUT it is NOT an Android unit. It’s a Linux system. On long trips(3 or 4) hours, it will shut down and restart one or two times. Maybe it’s overheating. Mine is on a 2007 Honda Civic. I purchased an in dash integrated dash mount so that it appears factory built.
Best review I've seen yet of these Android head units. I really hope to see you do more of the more well known ones. How big a deal is it really only having 2V output on the RCAs? Is the gain of your amp not enough to overcome that low voltage?
Flossing that D4S set up!! I got the JP84 and JP8 on two Robotunderground 12's for my son's Honda accord. It all sounds great but I want to put that JP23 v2 on it bit I just got all of that running so. But I've seen the old JP23's cheaper but it's not the same color 😕 can't wait ro see what you do. I would like to see you go with something out of the norm. I'm really happy with my the subs I got a beefer, stronger speaker and a better warranty.
@@DIYAudioGuy It's confusing as to why they'd have both, but sure. Finding a good single din Android Auto unit with an external microphone and a volume knob is a bit of a pain. Don't wanna be forced to modify my Ranger just to make a double din fit.
If the other unit you review could mirror this head unit this is what it would be ideal for. It probably doesn't. Some one close to being done with a nice system I have a great fealing.👍👌✌️💯🎶🔧
the only thing that is missing is decent rca output voltage. i would like atleast 2 volts. I guess 4 volts is too much to ask for in a $300 radio like this. nothing a loc can't fix
I have installed a handful of these units and to tell you truth I am very surprised that it is a decent unit for the price point . This atoto unit reminds me of the Alpine Halo 9 👍🏽
I bought one, no smoke lol. It works but when I press and hold the off button the rear speakers still get radio audio through the rca jacks going through the amp? Any ideas anyone?
@DIYAudioGuy sorry, a little more description.... press and hold the mute/off button for 3 or 4 seconds, screen turns off, then release button. Key still in accessories position and the rear speakers still play the radio in a lower audio but through the red and white rca jacks that goes to the amp. If I unplug the rca jacks the sound goes away or If I turn the key off to get out of the car it's stops playing the radio too.
I had a Pioneer stereo that I loved for three years. Then, just like everyone else's, it died because of the trash tier SD cards they put the firmware on. They don't release the firmware, so it was basically dead. I replaced it with an Atoto unit, and it's been so much better. The screen is waaay better quality, and the audio is not as good as the Pioneer, but still good enough. The feature set is better too. Plus, without the SD card flaw, it should last me more than a few years. At this point, I would struggle to call Pioneer "name brand". More like expensive junk.
Get a $400 joying 10 inch headunit they have better sound quality and better EQ settings or you can go up to 11 and 13 inch screens with the joying head units there about $100 bucks more with 1080p HD screens 6 gigs of ram and 128 gigs of internal memory if you want to get the better joying headunits, there's a couple other brands out there that are good as well but I've used the joying head units for some years now with 2 amps and subs.
Thanks for this! I bought this a while back for my Civic and just got around to installing it with the Sub/Amp. I was using the standard 75% volume (about 35) and it seemed really low while doing gains. I just ordered an AudioControl LC1 to fix the voltage. I would have been driving myself crazy without you testing this thing, THANKS! It is a sweet unit for the price though, I was amazed it worked so good out of the box.
I noticed how it has a crossover for the sub out, but does it have one for mids and highs? I also noticed the very weak rca output voltage. Everything else looks great. My dilemma... I'm trying to find a touch screen with a full time back up cam that can do all those things in order to replace my PRS 80. Any suggestions?
"most android car head units are duds" - Um, sounds like you have been out of the game for awhile as the android head units for the last couple years are way better than the early days. Lots of review videos if you do a little searching. There are about 3-4 brands to stay with to be safe and retain proper customer service\support. Android head units have the potential to destroy the Name Brand market if some company would step up and manufacture them with the same plug and play that Kenwood, Alpine, Pioneer, and others enjoy. Android is open source so its not super hard to do some coding that would surpass any Name Brand out there.
How many of those review videos do any actual testing? I see a lot of them that just power on the unit and go over the features. All of those features don't matter if the darn thing puts out a dirty distorted signal.
I got kia car with inbuilt navigation n esim in my display , so the car guy told me due to that he says there is no wireless Android Auto, is he bluffing?
Hey is there any chance you can help me with a winisd modeling on a 4th order? I get one peak instead of two like you show ideas as to a why? Also I'm new to designing a box just want to try my hand at it.
That happens. If the peak has a flat top that means that you've got a really broad frequency response. And enclosure like that can sound pretty good. Try adjusting the enclosure of volume and the tuning frequency.
Justin, is your rta showing a drop off above 18kHz? This is something I've noticed on my Joying unit. I don't think it's a big deal, but interesting nonetheless.
@@DIYAudioGuy Really? Have you tried it on a regular CD player thats decent quality? I've got a different rta setup using REW on a laptop and a mic preamp. I can plug in a microphone or an rca cable. It seems quite accurate so the Joying definitely drops off above 18kHz. Have you talked about your rta setup?
So I finally took the plunge and installed this thing into my Honda Element 2003. The thing that pushed me over the edge was a guy who has a YT channel called "lifewithabox" who has a f7 Pro 10.1 and I liked the way it looked on his video so I thought I would give it a whirl. My impressions: 1) using the factory amps and sub, the sound quality is, as expected, worse than my DDX-9904S. No big surprise there. Not horrible, except the subwoofer I would estimate has maybe 1/6th the output using the same amp. I do not think the DAC in this unit is really that comparable to my Kenwood, it sounds a little tinny in comparason, but it's passable. 2) I noticed that after about 4-5 seconds after you turn this headunit off or deapply power/remove the screen, a "thump" or "thud" can be heard through the speakers. I don't like this, but I don't think it's big enough to do any damage to my woofers(hopefully) 3) At first, the unit would play Android Auto for a couple of minutes and then turn itself off(Source OFF). This was annoying AF. I clipped the stripped ends off of the unused wires just in case some of them were touching together/shorting out to cause this issue, did not help. Replaced my USB cord going to my phone, that seemed to stop it from doing this. The USB cord must have to be a certain quality or gauge or something or else this issue occurs. UPDATE: Wireless AA works flawlessly so I'm just going to use that from now on Also worth mentioning, I have a digital voltmeter in my car and this thing is a POWER HOG. My vehicle ran at 14.1 volts with my previous stereo, this brings it down to a maximum of 13.8 while charging the battery 4) Screen is a huge fingerprint magnet, hard to keep it clean, and it is almost too big especially at native 720p resolution, it seems to dominate my view UPDATE: I'm used to it now and I kinda like it, except for when I'm shifting gears and accidentally hit the bottom of the screen, which is rare but happened once 5) I HATE the screen dimming when you turn your lights on, it makes it hard to see the screen during the day(even at max brightness) and it's not very adjustable, so I will probably be tearing apart dash again to clip the dimmer wire just for this reason 6) so far I have not found a USB flash drive with a file system that this thing supports, unless all of mine are just too big (128GB) - on the other hand I do have an SDXC 256GB card in the slot that it seems to recognize, maybe I'll have to put all my media files on that instead UPDATE: Plays NTFS formatted drives just fine. Annoyance: Android Auto always trumps whatever you may be listening to and starts playing as soon as it automatically connects. Lame also, sometimes the unit does not initialize the SD card properly on startup, it's hit or miss 7) most annoying thing so far is that volume down makes the tracks skip forward if you push on the top of the button. Weird. UPDATE: Caused by the button mount plastic being pushed in slightly, fixed by applying pressure to the sides Weird and glitchy but functional. My own personal opinion is this, it might be the best 10.1 inch available for under $300, IF you are using the built-in amplifier. If you are planning on using factory or aftermarket off-board amps, this is (IMHO) not the unit for you unless you have additional line drivers laying around to boost up the preouts, in particular the subwoofer out. That subwoofer output is tragic, unfortunately. I have hardware revision 2.0, and I have not noticed any heat issues to speak of.
No problem. After adding a line driver for the sub and still being underwhelmed with the performance and sound, and now having a significant parasitic drain on the battery, I would have to say I regret purchasing and installing this unit. It has too many compromises and the quality just isn't there. Both in sound and performance, at least in my environment and with my setup using the factory amps in my Honda Element. @@DIYAudioGuy
From what I can tell they all have the same resolution, so it is just a matter of which features you want/need. If you go with one from NVX make sure you use the coupon code diyaoud10 for a discount.
looks great on the test bench but I have seen a few you tube review videos of these units actually installed in vehicles and there are compatability issues. You might want to try this before you praise it
One thing you can do if you don't want to turn up the head unit so high is purchase a line driver. I ended up just getting a cheap one from a company called install bay. It says it can boost the signal up to10v RMS. I found that it sounded distorted with the gain all the way up and left it around 4V which is a big improvement over 1V or so the head unit produced. I'm using it to send an audio signal to the amp for my door speakers. Turning the head unit up half way sounds louder and cleaner than when I used to turn the head unit up much higher.
You probably could have just used the speaker out wires. They typically can get up to 6-8 volts of clean output and the sound quality is the same, just higher voltage. Of course the sub output will still be the low voltage.
Seeing your title has a certain Aerosmith earworm stuck in my head. Not that that's a bad thing... Question: will any of these units replace the contol/info units on such vehicles as Chargers, ect? I just can't see where that would work.
Thanks for this review, I just picked up one of these brand new off of eBay for 150 bucks. I'm going to be installing it either today or tomorrow, I may be able to answer my own question but I am curious as to whether or not you can disable the onboard amplifier. I'm a little concerned about the heat that you are talking about being generated by this unit, I'm replacing a very nice 2017 model Kenwood that has a built-in cooling fan that turns on and off, and it has been rock solid and bulletproof. Of course, the screen doesn't hold a candle to this one, which is why I'm replacing it. Anyway, I've heard about a few heat issues with this and I'm not going to be using the onboard amplifier whatsoever, just my OEM amplifiers that are built into my old Honda Element. Element so if there is a way of maybe turning off the onboard amps on the unit it would probably be beneficial. Do you know if you can do this? Thanks again for a great review
@@DIYAudioGuy I also think it's funny that your unit literally started on fire during your review and yet you still say it is the best budget 10" on the market so yeah I definitely have to try mine out. 🤔😁
I sure hope that meager subwoofer output is sufficient for my inner audiophile, don't most higher end stereos have at least 4 volt preouts? Looks like my Kenwood DDX9904S is 5v @ 10kohms
I have the S8 on 2 Alpine amps. I think it overheated and popped the fuse. Now I have a blank screen. So yes, you would need a linedriver for the S8. They get hot due to low voltage issues.
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He doesn't tell us why the unit smoked at all??
@@fapapas4534 I had the chance to take it apart after I uploaded these videos. It looks like the XM satellite board shorted out.
Love your content sir, thank you. Do you recommend something different now?
@@murkymurph8355 I no longer recommend any of the cheap android head units from amazon. Head over to Crutchfield and buy something that fits: howl.me/ck5xCM37XJZ
A huge fan of Atoto for what they are. Great review!
I was impressed.
I'm having an issue with the 10 inch Atoto xe7 for set up. Also doesn't seem to have the back up Cam widget. I'll keep trying.
you let the smoke out @4:42 power up with no issue was that a joke that thing let out poof of smoke or the gremlin in it was toking up tha thing is a fire hazard
Whoa... Just seen that after reading your comment.
Yep, I missed that. Thanks for your keen eye. th-cam.com/users/shorts7VQVBTj4qxk?feature=share
I have a question, i have the ATOTO F7 XE 10.1, it has the same EQ settings as yours does, but where my issue happens is when i adjust my subwoofer level on the stereo. I can only put it to about 4-5 and play at 30 volume without making my subwoofer amp go into protective mode. Never had this kind of issue with my older Boss stereo. Also, what would you recommend to increase the sound quality/voltage for lower volume listening. i feel like my sub doesnt really kick in until i get it up to 20+ volume
I think you have two separate issues. The first is adjusting your gain to match the head unit, the second is making sure you have good connection so it's your amplifiers getting enough power.
@@DIYAudioGuy Thank you for the help. Followes your guide on setting amp gain with multi metet and fixes the issues I was having.
Atoto, Joying, Daisata, Teyes and a few others are the better ones. Realistically once they have a few upgrades like higher RCA voltage output and some software refinement in the coming years there is no way any of these traditional groups will hold up. Traditional corps are years behind and don't take any real risk or spend the R&D necessary to push the envelope. That is why a lot of these android units tend to be more raw.
A huge thing a lot of the more expensive units have is SPDIF which these units even at the higher price cost half or less of the name brand units if a digital connection is something you need. THe most expensive atoto S8 is apprx. 600.
I think the two things that are big with people that want these are that digital spdif and/or the ability to use the android store. Aka its an android tablet in your car. You might want to explore the use of apps in android headunits in the future. Netflix, Offline Maps(Google Maps). I have even seen people streaming games onto their android head unit from playstations like red dead redemption. I think the ability to use an app like torque to read from a bluetooth OBD device for all sorts of different sensors the computer looks at is really cool and the ability to say read engine codes on the fly.
Yes, it is a different business model.
Facts.
i had mine for 4 months and overall, i wish i gone with a "name braned unit"
- random glitches which freezes the unit and i can't do a restart without turning off the car.
- Hard wire mirror to unit does not work
- 1 second delay when navigating/pressing apps
Great review, wish it had better preamp outputs
Yeah me too
You can use the speaker outputs. A clean 8.5 volts on this unit. Unfortunately the sub output will stay the low voltage.
Hold back on your experience why don't you 😂
I'm having great luck from the boss 10.1 elite one. Really don't have anything negative to say about it. I got a rca to hdmi connector to be able to put the firestick in the cubby behind the radio and powering the firestick and hdmi to rca converter with the 2 USB plugs that float below the dash. Pretty cool setup
Not bad. How’s the resolution?
Very clever.
@@webberfan1234 amazing really for a in car TV. We watch Netflix. Prime video, TH-cam, and TH-cam TV on it and everyone loves it. I build houses so my guys like watching it at lunch. We grab our sandwiches and off to the truck we go to catch a episode of diy audio guy 😉
@@webberfan1234 only thing I can think of negative is you get a slight hum when the trucks running from either the firestick or the hdmi converter because it's powered as well. Once the TV is playing you don't hear it in the slightest and it's not bad with nothing playing. Just a very light hum at higher volumes. I've actually hooked it to one of those 20k battery banks and there's no hum so if you wanted to use a battery pack to power those it don't have any engine noise
That’s pretty impressive.
Wonder if it has an source level adjustment like my pioneer.
I also had around 1.5v on the rca with the source level adjustment I was able to gain up to 4v on the rca. Clipping hit at 36 out of 40
Another great video.
Cheers
I did not see one when I was tinkering with it.
I've had the atoto a6 for 3 years now and have generally been happy with its performance.
I have made several 14 hour trips using this headunit, and overheating has never been a problem "it did get hot enough to burn you but not hot enough to cause it to fail".
The Bluetooth module however did die on the second year, though I'd chock that up to bad luck.
Oh on a separate note one of the major selling points of this type of headunit is its boot time. From turning the key to music playing it is faster than many factory headunits.
I was about to order this but i have all jl audio amps and subs and i dont like the fact that its not even sending out 2v from the preamps. Do you think the sony xau lineup will send more volts from the preamps?
If you're buying from a mainstream brand, you can usually trust the specifications.
I was gonna purchase this deck but I'll pass. Them low voltage is not good for my Basshead
I purchased a refurbished double din version of this 10.1 inch model. I paid $209. I do not have any buttons. All controls are touchscreen. It does have Android and Apple Car Play BUT it is NOT an Android unit. It’s a Linux system.
On long trips(3 or 4) hours, it will shut down and restart one or two times. Maybe it’s overheating. Mine is on a 2007 Honda Civic. I purchased an in dash integrated dash mount so that it appears factory built.
Best review I've seen yet of these Android head units. I really hope to see you do more of the more well known ones.
How big a deal is it really only having 2V output on the RCAs? Is the gain of your amp not enough to overcome that low voltage?
For a daily driver it is probably ok, but if you want a high end sound quality system or a sound quality competition system it is not enough.
@@DIYAudioGuy thanks is great to find someone giving out no BS car audio info.
Flossing that D4S set up!! I got the JP84 and JP8 on two Robotunderground 12's for my son's Honda accord. It all sounds great but I want to put that JP23 v2 on it bit I just got all of that running so. But I've seen the old JP23's cheaper but it's not the same color 😕 can't wait ro see what you do. I would like to see you go with something out of the norm. I'm really happy with my the subs I got a beefer, stronger speaker and a better warranty.
Taramps love a 2v pre-out, so they'd be great amps to use with that.🤷♂️
Seen too many bad reviews regarding crappy sound quality. I will pass on this and pay a little more on something better. Got to have good sound.
Instant buzz kill: integrated microphone.
Come on! No knob is bad enough, but no external mic?!? WTF?!?!!!
It has an external mic as well.
@@DIYAudioGuy It's confusing as to why they'd have both, but sure. Finding a good single din Android Auto unit with an external microphone and a volume knob is a bit of a pain. Don't wanna be forced to modify my Ranger just to make a double din fit.
If the other unit you review could mirror this head unit this is what it would be ideal for. It probably doesn't. Some one close to being done with a nice system I have a great fealing.👍👌✌️💯🎶🔧
the only thing that is missing is decent rca output voltage. i would like atleast 2 volts. I guess 4 volts is too much to ask for in a $300 radio like this. nothing a loc can't fix
This one looks like an intriguing buy. Might get one for my 95 Toyota Tacoma if I have a matching dash kit that would receive it...
Please make a video that explains the aftermarket explanations of wiring
I would like to see you review the Teyes CC3 unit. It looks promising.
I have installed a handful of these units and to tell you truth I am very surprised that it is a decent unit for the price point . This atoto unit reminds me of the Alpine Halo 9 👍🏽
Interesting unit. I am not convinced of the reliability though .
I bought one, no smoke lol. It works but when I press and hold the off button the rear speakers still get radio audio through the rca jacks going through the amp? Any ideas anyone?
Only when you're holding the button?
@DIYAudioGuy sorry, a little more description.... press and hold the mute/off button for 3 or 4 seconds, screen turns off, then release button. Key still in accessories position and the rear speakers still play the radio in a lower audio but through the red and white rca jacks that goes to the amp. If I unplug the rca jacks the sound goes away or If I turn the key off to get out of the car it's stops playing the radio too.
@@NigelM18 I guess the good news is that it stops when the key is removed so that your battery does not drain. I have no idea how to fix that.
I had a Pioneer stereo that I loved for three years. Then, just like everyone else's, it died because of the trash tier SD cards they put the firmware on. They don't release the firmware, so it was basically dead. I replaced it with an Atoto unit, and it's been so much better. The screen is waaay better quality, and the audio is not as good as the Pioneer, but still good enough. The feature set is better too. Plus, without the SD card flaw, it should last me more than a few years. At this point, I would struggle to call Pioneer "name brand". More like expensive junk.
That sucks.
I have 2008 Infiniti. Can something like this be made to work? Everyone (Crutchfield, SonicElectronix) recommends against upgrading the head unit.
Probably not, this is just a normal single din head unit with a big screen that clips on.
how many volts do you want out of the sub output
I want to see 4v.
Get a $400 joying 10 inch headunit they have better sound quality and better EQ settings or you can go up to 11 and 13 inch screens with the joying head units there about $100 bucks more with 1080p HD screens 6 gigs of ram and 128 gigs of internal memory if you want to get the better joying headunits, there's a couple other brands out there that are good as well but I've used the joying head units for some years now with 2 amps and subs.
ATOTO has some higher-end units. amzn.to/3g86nCH
Thanks for this! I bought this a while back for my Civic and just got around to installing it with the Sub/Amp. I was using the standard 75% volume (about 35) and it seemed really low while doing gains. I just ordered an AudioControl LC1 to fix the voltage. I would have been driving myself crazy without you testing this thing, THANKS! It is a sweet unit for the price though, I was amazed it worked so good out of the box.
Glad I could help!
I noticed how it has a crossover for the sub out, but does it have one for mids and highs? I also noticed the very weak rca output voltage. Everything else looks great.
My dilemma...
I'm trying to find a touch screen with a full time back up cam that can do all those things in order to replace my PRS 80.
Any suggestions?
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"most android car head units are duds" - Um, sounds like you have been out of the game for awhile as the android head units for the last couple years are way better than the early days. Lots of review videos if you do a little searching. There are about 3-4 brands to stay with to be safe and retain proper customer service\support. Android head units have the potential to destroy the Name Brand market if some company would step up and manufacture them with the same plug and play that Kenwood, Alpine, Pioneer, and others enjoy. Android is open source so its not super hard to do some coding that would surpass any Name Brand out there.
How many of those review videos do any actual testing? I see a lot of them that just power on the unit and go over the features. All of those features don't matter if the darn thing puts out a dirty distorted signal.
It’s only got one sub hole. Does It only need one of the pairs Of the leads to work?
Yep. A mono output.
@@DIYAudioGuy many thanks bro. Keep up the good work
I might have to pick one of these up
They have some upgraded ones that may be better.
@@DIYAudioGuy I'm browsing them on Amazon right now
How about fm tuner quality?
I got kia car with inbuilt navigation n esim in my display , so the car guy told me due to that he says there is no wireless Android Auto, is he bluffing?
The car guy? You mean the salesman at the stealership? Should be easy to fact check, the owner's manual will tell you everything.
Hey is there any chance you can help me with a winisd modeling on a 4th order? I get one peak instead of two like you show ideas as to a why?
Also I'm new to designing a box just want to try my hand at it.
That happens. If the peak has a flat top that means that you've got a really broad frequency response. And enclosure like that can sound pretty good.
Try adjusting the enclosure of volume and the tuning frequency.
Have you ever tested the brand Joying. Been looking at them for a bit but this one might be a good runner up.
Not yet!
This is one the best reviews I have seen for information and testing . Thank you
You are far to kind!
Justin, is your rta showing a drop off above 18kHz? This is something I've noticed on my Joying unit. I don't think it's a big deal, but interesting nonetheless.
Yes, but this RTA always does that.
@@DIYAudioGuy Really? Have you tried it on a regular CD player thats decent quality? I've got a different rta setup using REW on a laptop and a mic preamp. I can plug in a microphone or an rca cable. It seems quite accurate so the Joying definitely drops off above 18kHz.
Have you talked about your rta setup?
It runs TH-cam?
Unfortunately, no. But they do have a model that runs an Android operating system and you can download any Android app to it.
it smoked top left corner upon powering up. someone pointed it out already at 4:42
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What RTA app is that? Is it available for android phones?
Audio tool. Yes it is available for android.
So I finally took the plunge and installed this thing into my Honda Element 2003. The thing that pushed me over the edge was a guy who has a YT channel called "lifewithabox" who has a f7 Pro 10.1 and I liked the way it looked on his video so I thought I would give it a whirl. My impressions:
1) using the factory amps and sub, the sound quality is, as expected, worse than my DDX-9904S. No big surprise there. Not horrible, except the subwoofer I would estimate has maybe 1/6th the output using the same amp. I do not think the DAC in this unit is really that comparable to my Kenwood, it sounds a little tinny in comparason, but it's passable.
2) I noticed that after about 4-5 seconds after you turn this headunit off or deapply power/remove the screen, a "thump" or "thud" can be heard through the speakers. I don't like this, but I don't think it's big enough to do any damage to my woofers(hopefully)
3) At first, the unit would play Android Auto for a couple of minutes and then turn itself off(Source OFF). This was annoying AF. I clipped the stripped ends off of the unused wires just in case some of them were touching together/shorting out to cause this issue, did not help. Replaced my USB cord going to my phone, that seemed to stop it from doing this. The USB cord must have to be a certain quality or gauge or something or else this issue occurs.
UPDATE: Wireless AA works flawlessly so I'm just going to use that from now on
Also worth mentioning, I have a digital voltmeter in my car and this thing is a POWER HOG. My vehicle ran at 14.1 volts with my previous stereo, this brings it down to a maximum of 13.8 while charging the battery
4) Screen is a huge fingerprint magnet, hard to keep it clean, and it is almost too big especially at native 720p resolution, it seems to dominate my view
UPDATE: I'm used to it now and I kinda like it, except for when I'm shifting gears and accidentally hit the bottom of the screen, which is rare but happened once
5) I HATE the screen dimming when you turn your lights on, it makes it hard to see the screen during the day(even at max brightness) and it's not very adjustable, so I will probably be tearing apart dash again to clip the dimmer wire just for this reason
6) so far I have not found a USB flash drive with a file system that this thing supports, unless all of mine are just too big (128GB) - on the other hand I do have an SDXC 256GB card in the slot that it seems to recognize, maybe I'll have to put all my media files on that instead
UPDATE: Plays NTFS formatted drives just fine. Annoyance: Android Auto always trumps whatever you may be listening to and starts playing as soon as it automatically connects. Lame
also, sometimes the unit does not initialize the SD card properly on startup, it's hit or miss
7) most annoying thing so far is that volume down makes the tracks skip forward if you push on the top of the button. Weird.
UPDATE: Caused by the button mount plastic being pushed in slightly, fixed by applying pressure to the sides
Weird and glitchy but functional. My own personal opinion is this, it might be the best 10.1 inch available for under $300, IF you are using the built-in amplifier. If you are planning on using factory or aftermarket off-board amps, this is (IMHO) not the unit for you unless you have additional line drivers laying around to boost up the preouts, in particular the subwoofer out. That subwoofer output is tragic, unfortunately.
I have hardware revision 2.0, and I have not noticed any heat issues to speak of.
Thanks for the review!
No problem. After adding a line driver for the sub and still being underwhelmed with the performance and sound, and now having a significant parasitic drain on the battery, I would have to say I regret purchasing and installing this unit. It has too many compromises and the quality just isn't there. Both in sound and performance, at least in my environment and with my setup using the factory amps in my Honda Element. @@DIYAudioGuy
@@ketoninja I hate to hear that you had a bad experience with it.
Is it only the cheaper head units that have only one RCA for subwoofer output? Or is it becoming the norm?
Some name brand units go that route.
It doesn't matter for the sub out since its mono. If your amp requires both input RCA's to be used, just buy a Y splitter.
What is a good backup camera to buy???
From what I can tell they all have the same resolution, so it is just a matter of which features you want/need. If you go with one from NVX make sure you use the coupon code diyaoud10 for a discount.
looks great on the test bench but I have seen a few you tube review videos of these units actually installed in vehicles and there are compatability issues. You might want to try this before you praise it
Great point
Depends on the vehicle, ever car I've put one in I had no issues.
One thing you can do if you don't want to turn up the head unit so high is purchase a line driver. I ended up just getting a cheap one from a company called install bay. It says it can boost the signal up to10v RMS. I found that it sounded distorted with the gain all the way up and left it around 4V which is a big improvement over 1V or so the head unit produced. I'm using it to send an audio signal to the amp for my door speakers. Turning the head unit up half way sounds louder and cleaner than when I used to turn the head unit up much higher.
I don't think the target market for this type of unit would do that.
You probably could have just used the speaker out wires. They typically can get up to 6-8 volts of clean output and the sound quality is the same, just higher voltage. Of course the sub output will still be the low voltage.
Seeing your title has a certain Aerosmith earworm stuck in my head. Not that that's a bad thing...
Question: will any of these units replace the contol/info units on such vehicles as Chargers, ect? I just can't see where that would work.
Like an OBD plug so you can get things like speed and temperature? I don't know.
For instance, my stock unit has not only AM/FM/CD/AUX, but also the climate controls and settings for other displays and vehicle functions.
haha, first thing that I got stuck in my head after buying this headunit was "Big Ten Inch Record" and now here we go again......😆
Thanks for this review, I just picked up one of these brand new off of eBay for 150 bucks. I'm going to be installing it either today or tomorrow, I may be able to answer my own question but I am curious as to whether or not you can disable the onboard amplifier. I'm a little concerned about the heat that you are talking about being generated by this unit, I'm replacing a very nice 2017 model Kenwood that has a built-in cooling fan that turns on and off, and it has been rock solid and bulletproof. Of course, the screen doesn't hold a candle to this one, which is why I'm replacing it. Anyway, I've heard about a few heat issues with this and I'm not going to be using the onboard amplifier whatsoever, just my OEM amplifiers that are built into my old Honda Element. Element so if there is a way of maybe turning off the onboard amps on the unit it would probably be beneficial. Do you know if you can do this? Thanks again for a great review
Not that I know of, but if the onboard amp is not putting out any music then it's probably not going to make a lot of heat.
@@DIYAudioGuy I also think it's funny that your unit literally started on fire during your review and yet you still say it is the best budget 10" on the market so yeah I definitely have to try mine out. 🤔😁
@@ketoninja I missed that until a viewer pointed it out.
I sure hope that meager subwoofer output is sufficient for my inner audiophile, don't most higher end stereos have at least 4 volt preouts? Looks like my Kenwood DDX9904S is 5v @ 10kohms
id like to see if you can get your hands on the S8 line. curious to see how they do.
I think @toidsdiy may have reviewed one of them.
I have the S8 on 2 Alpine amps. I think it overheated and popped the fuse. Now I have a blank screen. So yes, you would need a linedriver for the S8. They get hot due to low voltage issues.
Your the first person to test the head unit thanks the only down fall is the low out put on the RCA out but we'll worth the money 👍👌✌️💯🎶
Glad I could help
You can use the speaker out for higher voltage. The sub output will be stuck at the lower voltage.
We need more gain on the amp!
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@@DIYAudioGuy You remember when Rockville made that video? Laughed about it for weeks.
You've got 8.5 volts on the main 4 channels. Only the sub out is low voltage.
Do a phase test. My unit’s rca’s are out of phase. Blew the tweets in the dash and my coaxials in the door. Was too lazy to test at first. 😂
Reversing the polarity will not damage your speakers.
@@DIYAudioGuy the tweets, yes.
4:42 - baba noticed a puff of smoke come out of the back of the unit....
Odd. I don't see it. I will have to look at the raw footage.
@@DIYAudioGuy i think you should ....looked quite serious and explains the heat issue you had i think.
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