The worst example I saw was Phoenix Resale going to a convention early just to buy all of the handhelds off the floor to later sell on Amazon for an insanely marked up price. Completely ruins the chance of regular gamers going to a convention and finding a good deal.
I don't think you understand. This is how it works at every convention. If you want the deals like that then purchase a table. You will have Early Access.
My biggest problem is when they buy stuff they know nothing about. Like at least be educated. Guy finds chrono trigger and is like "wow this looks rare i think, got it for 4 cents".
It's ridiculous because some of these scumbags wait in their cars and as soon as someone how's it charge of the yard sale comes out of the house they will buy all the games and ruin someone else's day a real collector.
When I started the show Video Game Sellers 13 years ago, it was to show that there were all types of "resellers" out at flea markets, conventions, etc. Of course there were just the straight up sellers who couldn't tell you anything about a game except how much it sells for on eBay, but we also showed how collectors and gamers used it as a way to grow their collection and maybe make a few bucks as well.
@@TheMelvor I was actually surprised by the very small amount of negative comments we got on the episodes. It probably helped that it was mixed in with stupid jokes, goofy challenges, etc. I've talked about how it is now compared to back then quite a bit on other people's channels, live streams, and podcasts. It's kind of cool that some of the current channels said they watched me when they were kids lol.
@@McJuar I appreciate hearing that! Over the past year I've uploaded 6 new episodes of VGS, with a 7th coming in June. They're not exactly like the old ones, but check them out if you haven't.
My issue is more when channels change direction out of nowhere from collector to reseller channel. Channels that are capitalizing on the current trend just to go viral. That to me compromises the initial integrity and foundation of what the channel was originally built on. They are killing the heart and soul of the nostalgia and history of gaming we love.
Yep. I hate when the channels get on here too and brag about ripping people off. " This old lady at the garage sale didn't know this game was worth like $200! HAHAHAH "
I hate that these resellers have the ball to go into a game store and start looking up prices of what they can sell it for on amazon or eBay in front of the owner and then try to get a deal on it to get it for cheaper insane! If I owned that store I’d be like get the F*** out!
Dude the aftermarket for both retro games and figure collecting has gotten insane in the last few years! I decided if I ever get into retro game collecting it would only be for maybe 1 or 2 consoles and that's not even me wanting to complete the library. It's wild now
The budget answer for someone who wants to play old games on original hardware is get an everdrive, and buy the real stuff slowly over time. And it lets you test out some of the games before you commit to spending big money on them
@@RetroZoneNeon This is the answer. It's understandable why someone might not want to emulate, it's sometimes far from perfect, but at least don't give money to scumbag resellers... everdrive and be done with it.
the issue I have with the reselling channels is that they can scew the market on the value of items. Like Phoenix Resale will find a game at a game store for lets say $10, then buys it because he know that he can get $15 on Amazon. The game is actually worth may $7 and that first store was charging a fair amount for it. Now he buys it and gets a sucker to not only pay more, but also get them and the viewers to believe that the game is actually worth more. Also morally going into a convention and buys like 20 Tetris on GB to resell as apposed to a kid buying it that day or something I have an issue with too.
Yep. I was watching an older one awhile ago where Billy was hesitant to pull the trigger on a $400 Little Sampson. That probably seemed like a truck-load of money at the time...but it's nothing compared to the price now.
Hey Billy and Jay mevlor etc. I am 28 years old started my fascination of Old Video Games/Retro in 2011 when I was about 14 years old because Of the Angry Video Game Nerd. But then it turned into a hobby of mine when I found The Game Chasers, Pat the Nes punk, 8 but Eric. When I found out that it was a casual hobby collecting video games in the early 2010s. Now I honestly at age 28 have no inclinations to blow money now. It's sad because of inflation but it's also Honestly can we be honest here ... TH-cam influencers killed the Retro Gaming Market but also made these games more desirable honestly. You feel better knowing your copy of Wild Guns is selling for $90 now instead of $9 in 2013. Idk... Your guy's thoughts? I've been a super fan of you guys since 2012 when I was a punk teenager and still my fascination of Retro Games keeps me Entertained. But collecting honestly can't do it.
This is a major problem for the local collector's groups in my area. Alot of the (shelf) collectors, *constantly* hit every thrift/flea on a daily basis, pick it up, brag about it but later flip it back to the local stores, just for store credit or resell it for much higher. I mean its so bad, i no longer go to those stores, knowing its already been ransacked. Ive only resold basically on the same ruleset as you guys. To fuel my collection, upgrading copies, or just letting a game go straight up.
The channels that do this are the reason everybody thinks dirt common games are worth $20-$50. Nobody's going to pay that for Super Mario Bros. or Combat but everybody thinks the things they are flipping are gold.
I decided I flat out refuse to pay these prices for things like that. I might as well buy more Switch or PS4 games from Walmart instead if I'm going to spend that. If only everyone else would refuse too.
Resellers are everywhere now. It’s nearly everyone at the swap meets and thrift stores. Everyone has their phones out scanning EVERYTHING. It’s sad even hearing them tell employees “it’s sells for X On eBay and I’m a reseller so I need to make a profit, can you discount it” 🥴
This is what I'm worried about. People thinking I'm a reseller because I have my phone out checking prices. But I'm checking prices to make sure I'm not overpaying. Im just the kind of collector that collects everything and buys alot. So I really have to make sure I'm not overpaying. If I'm at a store and it has a game for $20 but it is selling for $15 on eBay I'm sorry not sorry, but I'm not buying it from that store ... I will buy it off of eBay. That's why I check prices
@@BillyBoy-hr9rl nothing wrong with that, I’ve been collecting for over 15yrs and you should always know what something is worth. I looked stuff up all the time I was just discreet about it, and that was harder to do back when you couldn’t just scan everything with a barcode scanner or google image search. I’m mostly talking about how BOLD people are about it now. Also like I said they scan EVERYTHING, toys, games, random crap. I see so many phones obviously open to google image search scanning random junk that as someone who’s done this for a long time knows is junk, but they have no idea what it is nor do they care they just know it’s old and want to see if they can make any money. They have investment in the hobby over what they can get out of it and how they conduct themselves is how deal spots die as they get wise to all the flippers and prices steadily creep up.
I try and void resellers channels as they feel all the same and I been watching your channel for a while and I still rewatch old videos as I like how you tell the history of the stuff. Keep up the good work looking forward to next adventure.
I think it's a younger generational thing. My kids are teenagers and I've talked to a few people in their early 20s and they get excited to find out about stuff to go hunting for and sell for profit. They're always telling me to look out for certain things in the stores or yard sales and I know they don't even care about those things, they're just looking at the resell value.
I don't mind reselling. But I've started to feel bummed out at channels who made it all about the money and how much they can make or how much stuff is worth.
TBF "re-seller" is still the worst thing you can be called. I don't think a lot of collectors are really on-board with the dillweeds driving up prices.
It's horrible.people giving out their secrets to their business, posting it online....raising the prices artificially, ruining collecting...I gave up.these cats will feel it later.
It's one thing to see if someone might come down on their price It's another when you have grown men & women film themselves trying to nickel and dime people when they have thousands of dollars because their taking advantage of people and to top it off you have all these people watching it so if your wondering why Mario Galaxy costs 50 dollars used It's because of people like this smh
Retro gaming hippie approves! Great video and insight. I have been collecting toys and games for a few decades now. Just like Jay mentioned, when you collect, you also do some flipping so you can as to your collection. I also tend to trade more than sell and it is not a business for me. My mark up is minuscule. I laugh at most resellers for 2 reasons. 1. They overvalue things. Sold and completed listings are 2 different things to me on eBay. 2. I did a video quite awhile back, where I came across a reseller that used their phone to scan items. Basically told him that If I tossed his phone away, he would be lost. It pays to know value based on experience.
I feel bad for those resellers that are killing some of these mom/pop video game stores. I have two in my area and they get resellers that come in asking for well over price charting for games.
@Pixelgamesquad, I just finished watching your episode with Ricky and Gabbo, where you got the Punisher and Gunsmoke at the end from Gabbo. You are guys are pretty entertaining when you go out hunting (not as crude as the Chasers who remind me of people I grew up with) and I gladly will throw on one of your vids for some entertainment, still a hundred times better than mainstream TV.
You guys have been around for long enough and have a dedicated enough fan base that will always be here for whatever you guys are putting out I don’t think I’m alone in saying that I appreciate you guys staying true to yourselves and keeping it fun and, most importantly, genuine Got to meet Billy and Jay at SEGE a few years back and it was very cool. Love you guys, keep chasin whatever makes you happy
I agree with what @RetroRyan stated but I also have an issue with taking what used to be a fun part of the hobby, the thrill of the hunt, into a seek and destroy mission. If I go to a yard sale, I have to be on the lookout who is hovering near me and trying to get what I might have seen or not, with the intent to flip. When I am chasing, I am looking out not only for myself but also for our friends and fellow collectors who actually want these items. Reseller content also feeds into the false narrative that anyone can get up and do this and that viewers should do this. But again, this hurts collectors and local businesses and really inflates the market. I liked making pick-up videos, but I don't want them to group into reselling content because that's not what I do with my pickups. Those of us in our community tend to trade or just send items to each other because we're friends and collectors. If collectors stop paying these inflated prices, maybe the solution would correct itself.
I enjoy your style videos over the videos the resellers make. Prolly since I’m of the older generation of collectors who went out and looked to find something for their collections like you guys do. So watching you is nostalgic for me haha
Being roughly 15 years in the hobby (if not more), locally it went from nearly everyone being a collector and user of what they bought to more than 90% of the market being resellers. The local scene, which is the biggest in my country, has 2 big retro events one almost purely being retro-gaming market and that's always packed. The other is basically a pop-up arcade mainly with retro consoles, and no buying and selling of any kind, and that has been dying a slow death in visitor volume. That went from what looks like a packed houseparty around 2013 in a former highschool to an event that only has a few hand full of visitors in a bar, most of which are there mainly to enter a fighting game tournament. Retrogaming as a hobby seems to be dying everywhere, it's resellers that are picking at the corpse. The big issue I have with resellers is that they inflate pricing, heavily. They buy an item for 1 dollar, see it goes online for 10 and try to sell it at 11, and if they need to sit on it for a while that's fine (and in the case of resell youtubers also add the morally questionable action of setting the price as an "expert" and then selling to their own audience). And then the perceived "new standard" will be hiked up again. It's the same issue I have with NFT's and crypto, it's "hustle culture", just a way to buy in and attempt to sell for more to the next sucker that tries to do the exact same thing.
You guys inspired me to start my TH-cam channel and start filming all my finds! I should’ve started it 10 years ago or more. I have a entire vintage toy room and video game room. THANK YOU❗️ I flip video game systems and any duplicates I find. To put back into my collection but I am not a freaking reseller.
My problem is more so with the ethics of those youtubers who expressly buy up games, film that for content, tell their audiences to watch them auction it off on Whatnot, and then pressure their audience into buying up their stock during the auction stream. At that point, they're pretty much saying they're okay with manipulating their audience into profiting off of them. And that to me is scummy as hell.
Any word on the Blu-ray seasons yet? I don't mind resellers as much as Kickstarter/Patreon sellers that push blame on the disc printers for going years of taking funds from backers and not providing the goods to their customers. We are approaching Intelliviision Amiico Tommy Tallarico levels here with this. Come on Billy, Get those orders out.
Exactly! Let’s not forget about the Cheetah Men scandal. They have also forgotten about the video that was deleted last year of when Jay was throwing around the gifts people send in and him making remarks of reselling the games at their convention.
The worst part about this new resellers is that they know so little about games and yes you don't have to know to sell but if you have a youtube channel or business at least read the history of a particular console or games and then you start , but they always mess up trying to be the ones who knows and every time they end like clowns.
Great video guys! Long time subscriber! As a collector first, I always try and find things to add to my collection. Unfortunately like many a lot of what I need I won’t find game hunting and need to get off eBay or from a game store; therefore, I buy things to trade for them. I always try and find things to trade first and then sell if I can’t trade. Keep up the great work!
Ya 10 yrs ago before youtubers blew up and even getting paid to run commercials on their platform its in everyone's face there used to be deals out there 10yrs ago....
I watch both this channel and some of the ones mentioned. I enjoy both. The thing I enjoy the most is the camaraderie and friendships on display. Friends just having a good time hanging out and sharing nostalgia together. Both your channel and NES Pursuit stand out in this regard.
I collected alot Video games and toys when I was younger. I have a ton of stuff, from working at Kaybee toys and hollywood video. I ran out of space. My garage, shed, and storage is full. I don't want to sell my stuff, but my son doesn't want to deal with it either when I pass. I most likely am going to have to sell most of it and just keep the stuff I cherish the most.
Do it ASAP before it ends up on a yardsale for cheap or goodwill and some random dude does a youtube video bragging how he got $10k worth of games for $400 lol.
Long time viewer. Started watching for the "Game Chasing" quickly learned the best episodes are about watching the adventure itself. I don't care when an episode doesn't have a find, it's the fun and adventure I am here for and the interactions you all have together. Keep it up fellas!
Resellers are the reason why I don't collect retro anymore and im currently saving up for a gaming pc so i can just emulate instead. Id rather pirate then give my money to them.
I made the mistake of selling my see through green 64 back in the day. From that day onward I swore to never sell anything unless I hate it or have doubles 😂 only collect what I want to play.
It's wild that even at the Goodwill by the Pound people just grab every single video game possible. Last time I went I found video games piled up where they tossed them after looking up the prices. Luckily there are a lot of games in CD cases that people tend to overlook.
i live in a pretty rural area and all my usual stops have dried up because a few people started reselling after watching phoenix resale. really sucks for my own personal hunts.
With games getting more expensive, I had two choices. Buy little to nothing because of the rising prices or resell so I can expand my collection. I chose to resell, and my collection exploded. Scalpers buying up stuff at retail and jacking up the price give resellers a bad name. It kept game hunting fun for me because I look at everything, not just what I want for myself since most of the stuff I want I'm not going to come across hunting
Yeah man, like in 2010 the term "reseller" was the ultimate insult on NintendoAge. The problem was, every single person, except the rich, on that site resold. How the hell else are we supposed to afford this shit. And that was 2010 prices.
I think your show is one of those shows that was its own unique thing that got copied so quickly that you never really had a chance to cash in on the idea. What you've done is inspired a whole lot of people who are far less interesting most of the time to use your concept, and since it expands beyond videogames easily as your Toy-based channel demonstrated, people just boosted the idea. I only discovered your show during the pandemic, while stuck at home, and since I was no longer able to go out hunting for retro games, I lived through the episodes. You guys will always have a special place in my heart for the laughs you gave me during a weird/rough time. It's too bad there are so many clones of your show, but on the other hand, it's pretty cool that you've gone and influenced so many other people to document their own escapades.
The whole reason I like you guys’ channel is because you capture the essence of the average dudes going to find retro games out in the wild for your own benefit/collection. Not for resale purposes unless it’s doubles and you use the profit to gain more later for your own collection and that’s what I do. Anybody can go online and just buy whatever they want but then there’s no thrill of the hunt and that’s what’s so captivating about y’all’s content. For us that collect in that way we feel we are there with you because we have been there. And damn those online resellers!!! 😂 but I do enjoy retrorick’s content because he has a sweet ass store and we know what and why he does what he does. Keep it going you guys. Yall will always be the “goat” in my mind of TH-cam retro game hunting!!!
The term Reseller gets a lot of hate. It's tricky for sure. Our channel is dedicated to life inside the Game Store. Technically, we resell games, but we sell the games that other people sell to us. We don't really go hunting and 98% of the games in our store were either sold to us or traded in. Great conversation for sure.
I recently startet doing this. Buying cheap, sell higher. But it's mostly to finance my own collection to get the things I want or need or whatever. Also I started buying Gameboy machines that need some love and care, fixing them and mark it up a bit for some small profit.
I've seen your short videos where you make the title ALL about a game you found and the huge amount it's worth. You guys were one of the earlier channels on youtube who played a big part in showing a large audience of people that you can find old games cheap and the fact that they are worth a lot of money. Doing these videos, ironically, you've been basically advertising it to a lot of resellers and more potential competition over the years.
@@Lhatesramen My comment is referring to the youtubers side of things and that show isn't all about the video game side of things either which is the topic.
Jay saying maybe he should buy and sell vintage windbreakers.. I just sold a Nike windbreaker (jacket only) for $125. It was my older brothers and he left it at my mom’s house in a box of stuff he went through saying he didn’t want. I seized the opportunity 😂 He wore it a lot and I’m surprised it still was in a like new condition. I haven’t told him because he’d be p!!ssed 😅. It’s not about the jacket but it would be about the money to him. I used that to buy more Crazy Taxi games for my collection.
This. Everyone’s a reseller now. Not a collector first who trades or resells to be able to add new stuff to the collection, just straight up resellers looking to exploit.
As far as retro stores go, I'm lucky in the area I live in to still have the same store that has been here since 1993. The ownership has changed hands over the years but he keeps the prices fair. Other stores shut down due then low balling trade ins & upcharging what the value of the game is.
This is why i love you guys and froggy flips. He looks for things he loves and every once in a while buys stuff off his radar to sell. Hes not out look to rip people off.
Me and my wife went into the game exchange in grand prairie the other day. Only reason is because i thought it would be cool to stand in the same spot as where yall first met. Was pretty cool.
I'm a reseller. I go to garage sales and buy all kinds of stuff to sell online. Sometimes it's video games, sometimes it's books, sometimes it's a vacuum cleaner. Just another widget to me tbh.
Resellers create and help blow up bubbles, pricing out someone who might have just wanted to reconnect with their nostalgia. The worst ones are those that argue about it like they're not doing anything wrong.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who has noticed this trend. Resellers used to be sooo frowned upon. Remember all the crap Hancock got just for mentioning a MUSEUM!??
Retro game collecting is relatively new and it's just going through some growing pains. Learn from a hobby like comic collecting, which has been around for 50 years. It started as a community of people who just loved the medium, but eventually attracted people who were only in it for the money. The key is identifying the good people who actually give a shit. The bad actors will eventually move on because their heart isn't in it.
I hate pixel game squad, they're just the same as Phoenix resale. Also retro Rick is part of that group too. All of them are resellers and they're ruining the fun of finding games out in the wild. Disagree with me, I don't care. I wish the resellers would stop doing what they do and get a real physical paying job
I haven't figured out Retro Rick yet. With him though, he goes where he wants and buys what he wants at whatever price and you can't compete with that either. It's like his millionaire dad, so to speak, gives me money and tells him "okay, buy it store it." He doesn't seem to buy it off a budget which is less interesting. BUT, in all fairness, being stingy and wanting a game for $3 and expecting such a huge discount, fair is fair. You have a limit, which is self-control, but there's extremely low and rediculously high. I figure that's why someone did the research and came up with Price Charts was to show you what was fair and what was unrealistic. Good on you for finding Little Sampson for $3 and who would've ever thought you'd sell it, and also the Flintstones but, let's be fair too, it's entertains us but that's the two-edged sword or the catch 22 is that people see your videos either themselves or someone tells the seller: Dude, you were had! And then they're on their guard because of the internet so now everyone's doing research so, it's to the detriment of collectors when like Mark with Truxton, Johnny Ferguson with Ys, James Rolfe with Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, yeah, that game isn't $.99 anymore. TH-cam Channels are driving the market up so, you can't really win either way. You have to keep up with games and get them at sales and see how their value goes up but, thinking that way, your mindset is no different than the re-sellers anyway and soon, channels such as yourselves have to evolve with it to stay relevant because games are going all digital, sadly, and then what? Games to too expensive to buy that are older and then what? It's seems like we're getting closer and closer to apocalyptic times. It gets boring. I hate modern gaming. This console generation is the my least favorite, there's nothing to be excited about anymore. Xbox is giving up and everyone's expecting everything on all platforms, exclusives don't exist anymore. Console Wars made things interesting. Nintendo vs Sega, that's all dying and it's boring. PS4 was okay but not nearly as good as the PS3 era. AND WHO CAN DO GAME ROOMS THESE DAYS WITH SUCH A CRAPPY HOUSING MARKET. I lost my job and had to move and I can't even afford housing where I'm living and have to stay with family so I can't enjoy my collection, it's in a storage unit in another state while the weather is doing who knows what to it, it sucks! [EDIT] Sorry about your basement by-the-way, that sucks. Really surprised to see a basement in Texas but I guess that's why y'all don't have them
Oh yeah, reselling used to be an absolute SIN in the late 2000s/early 2010s, to the point where I was only buying games I didn't want or already had, even if I could have made some good money from them. Now I buy whatever I can find, because the collecting sphere has changed so dramatically and finding anything for a reasonable price is almost impossible.
Yeah, if you're buying doubles to trade or sell to keep your own collection going. Do you. It's the people like Jay said, that go to Walmart at the buttcrack of dawn to snipe 20 PS5's to turn 300+ dollar profits on that are scummy.
You guys just keep being you, please. You're one of if not the only game hunting channels that actually feel real and just not. Hey, look what I got for 3 bucks now, like and subscribe to see if I sell it or not. My point is you guys are just buddies hunting for games, and that's what makes it great and relatable.
First of all, I'm on a Game Chasers thumbnail so that's a bucket list item crossed off 👍. You guys were a large part of my inspiration to start a channel. But I've gone from showing pickups and no one caring, to showing profits and seeing growth. To now where a lot of people are fed up with people reselling things they find. And I hear where everyone is coming from really. I don't resell games for a living. I buy, sell & trade within a hobby. But I realize my show needs to reflect that Im a collector first and it hasn't done that in recent past. So Im pivoting the focus back to the collecting alone. Great talk, guys.
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The worst example I saw was Phoenix Resale going to a convention early just to buy all of the handhelds off the floor to later sell on Amazon for an insanely marked up price. Completely ruins the chance of regular gamers going to a convention and finding a good deal.
This is absolutely the worst part about him.
What a doche thing to do. - And way to kill many customers ever comig back in the future!
I despise those types of people
I don't think you understand. This is how it works at every convention. If you want the deals like that then purchase a table. You will have Early Access.
The worst thing about it are the people who defend it.
It's so cringe and most of them don't even care about games or even play the games they buy
My biggest problem is when they buy stuff they know nothing about. Like at least be educated. Guy finds chrono trigger and is like "wow this looks rare i think, got it for 4 cents".
It's ridiculous because some of these scumbags wait in their cars and as soon as someone how's it charge of the yard sale comes out of the house they will buy all the games and ruin someone else's day a real collector.
@@cobrakai9969damn I have to know back history to play video game Mann get over yourself I’m buying whatever I want
Mostly much more superficial with the younger guys/resellers.
Facts
Don't worry guys they are ñot only clearing out yardsales and shops as they now clear out conventions in the early bird hours😂😂
Penis resale does that lol. Comes in early haggles them down and then slaps them online at a premium.
Some even get tables with the purpose to be there before the early birds
When I started the show Video Game Sellers 13 years ago, it was to show that there were all types of "resellers" out at flea markets, conventions, etc. Of course there were just the straight up sellers who couldn't tell you anything about a game except how much it sells for on eBay, but we also showed how collectors and gamers used it as a way to grow their collection and maybe make a few bucks as well.
Which 100 percent is an aspect of collecting. Did you catch any heat earlier on? You should make a video on how you've seen attitudes change (or not).
@@TheMelvor I was actually surprised by the very small amount of negative comments we got on the episodes. It probably helped that it was mixed in with stupid jokes, goofy challenges, etc. I've talked about how it is now compared to back then quite a bit on other people's channels, live streams, and podcasts. It's kind of cool that some of the current channels said they watched me when they were kids lol.
For a time there you seriously had the funniest show on TH-cam, I looked forward to it every week.
@@McJuar I appreciate hearing that! Over the past year I've uploaded 6 new episodes of VGS, with a 7th coming in June. They're not exactly like the old ones, but check them out if you haven't.
All that snicklefritz
It does suck, local markets are plagued with them too
Yeah with phone in hand looking up every single item while holding a item hostage
@@KevinArcade87 asking ebay or more prices too, the gouging is annoying
i want you guys to chase what you enjoy and film it doesnt have to just be games. estate sales, garage, thrift it dont matter
^this, but also the paranormal
This
Agreed.
My issue is more when channels change direction out of nowhere from collector to reseller channel. Channels that are capitalizing on the current trend just to go viral. That to me compromises the initial integrity and foundation of what the channel was originally built on. They are killing the heart and soul of the nostalgia and history of gaming we love.
Yep. I hate when the channels get on here too and brag about ripping people off. " This old lady at the garage sale didn't know this game was worth like $200! HAHAHAH "
@@IowaRetroGamerDad 😂 💯
@IowaRetroGamerDad i mean if they paid the asking price what's the problem? They got a good deal
@@chase6722 That fine but going on TH-cam and making fun of them and bragging like an ass is wrong.
YEp, stopped watching a ton of channels that have just become resell channels.
I hate that these resellers have the ball to go into a game store and start looking up prices of what they can sell it for on amazon or eBay in front of the owner and then try to get a deal on it to get it for cheaper insane! If I owned that store I’d be like get the F*** out!
You realize the owner is a reseller. You people have the dumbest logic 😂
Dude the aftermarket for both retro games and figure collecting has gotten insane in the last few years! I decided if I ever get into retro game collecting it would only be for maybe 1 or 2 consoles and that's not even me wanting to complete the library. It's wild now
The budget answer for someone who wants to play old games on original hardware is get an everdrive, and buy the real stuff slowly over time. And it lets you test out some of the games before you commit to spending big money on them
@@RetroZoneNeon This is the answer. It's understandable why someone might not want to emulate, it's sometimes far from perfect, but at least don't give money to scumbag resellers... everdrive and be done with it.
the issue I have with the reselling channels is that they can scew the market on the value of items. Like Phoenix Resale will find a game at a game store for lets say $10, then buys it because he know that he can get $15 on Amazon. The game is actually worth may $7 and that first store was charging a fair amount for it. Now he buys it and gets a sucker to not only pay more, but also get them and the viewers to believe that the game is actually worth more. Also morally going into a convention and buys like 20 Tetris on GB to resell as apposed to a kid buying it that day or something I have an issue with too.
the going price at the time being included in the old videos adds to the rewatching experience.
Yep. I was watching an older one awhile ago where Billy was hesitant to pull the trigger on a $400 Little Sampson. That probably seemed like a truck-load of money at the time...but it's nothing compared to the price now.
Love watching some chasers and seeing them pay $10 for secret of mana, ninja Gaiden trilogy and I think it was chrono trigger or final fantasy III LOL
Thats why i started watching you guys starting at 10:00 . You were all about the hunt, collecting, trading. Not money.
Dont let Melvor near sting rays with that hat ..
Crikey he might suffer from a heart...attack.
Hey Billy and Jay mevlor etc. I am 28 years old started my fascination of Old Video Games/Retro in 2011 when I was about 14 years old because Of the Angry Video Game Nerd. But then it turned into a hobby of mine when I found The Game Chasers, Pat the Nes punk, 8 but Eric. When I found out that it was a casual hobby collecting video games in the early 2010s. Now I honestly at age 28 have no inclinations to blow money now. It's sad because of inflation but it's also Honestly can we be honest here ... TH-cam influencers killed the Retro Gaming Market but also made these games more desirable honestly. You feel better knowing your copy of Wild Guns is selling for $90 now instead of $9 in 2013. Idk... Your guy's thoughts? I've been a super fan of you guys since 2012 when I was a punk teenager and still my fascination of Retro Games keeps me Entertained. But collecting honestly can't do it.
8butt Eric 😂
This is a major problem for the local collector's groups in my area. Alot of the (shelf) collectors, *constantly* hit every thrift/flea on a daily basis, pick it up, brag about it but later flip it back to the local stores, just for store credit or resell it for much higher.
I mean its so bad, i no longer go to those stores, knowing its already been ransacked.
Ive only resold basically on the same ruleset as you guys. To fuel my collection, upgrading copies, or just letting a game go straight up.
The channels that do this are the reason everybody thinks dirt common games are worth $20-$50. Nobody's going to pay that for Super Mario Bros. or Combat but everybody thinks the things they are flipping are gold.
I remember the days (maybe around 2002) of seeing dozens of Mario duck hunt for $.25 cents at GameStop loo
I decided I flat out refuse to pay these prices for things like that. I might as well buy more Switch or PS4 games from Walmart instead if I'm going to spend that. If only everyone else would refuse too.
Resellers are everywhere now. It’s nearly everyone at the swap meets and thrift stores. Everyone has their phones out scanning EVERYTHING. It’s sad even hearing them tell employees “it’s sells for X On eBay and I’m a reseller so I need to make a profit, can you discount it” 🥴
This is what I'm worried about. People thinking I'm a reseller because I have my phone out checking prices. But I'm checking prices to make sure I'm not overpaying. Im just the kind of collector that collects everything and buys alot. So I really have to make sure I'm not overpaying. If I'm at a store and it has a game for $20 but it is selling for $15 on eBay I'm sorry not sorry, but I'm not buying it from that store ... I will buy it off of eBay. That's why I check prices
@@BillyBoy-hr9rl nothing wrong with that, I’ve been collecting for over 15yrs and you should always know what something is worth. I looked stuff up all the time I was just discreet about it, and that was harder to do back when you couldn’t just scan everything with a barcode scanner or google image search. I’m mostly talking about how BOLD people are about it now. Also like I said they scan EVERYTHING, toys, games, random crap. I see so many phones obviously open to google image search scanning random junk that as someone who’s done this for a long time knows is junk, but they have no idea what it is nor do they care they just know it’s old and want to see if they can make any money. They have investment in the hobby over what they can get out of it and how they conduct themselves is how deal spots die as they get wise to all the flippers and prices steadily creep up.
That and also a $hit load of Chat GTP generated documentaries read by a robot.😳🥺😱
People ask me all the time a garage sales and thrift stores "Are you a reseller?" Its so annoying now
I try and void resellers channels as they feel all the same and I been watching your channel for a while and I still rewatch old videos as I like how you tell the history of the stuff. Keep up the good work looking forward to next adventure.
Dirty resellers!!!! I hunt my ass off, and nothing is for sale nothing, when I die, the kids will get them all..period. Game On Dudes
"oh you almost had it, you gotta be quicker than that"
Your kids won’t give damn about them when you’re gone lol
so glad i got the bulk of my collection cheap during the 2000s and early to mid 2010s.
I think it's a younger generational thing. My kids are teenagers and I've talked to a few people in their early 20s and they get excited to find out about stuff to go hunting for and sell for profit. They're always telling me to look out for certain things in the stores or yard sales and I know they don't even care about those things, they're just looking at the resell value.
I don't mind reselling. But I've started to feel bummed out at channels who made it all about the money and how much they can make or how much stuff is worth.
TBF "re-seller" is still the worst thing you can be called. I don't think a lot of collectors are really on-board with the dillweeds driving up prices.
It's horrible.people giving out their secrets to their business, posting it online....raising the prices artificially, ruining collecting...I gave up.these cats will feel it later.
It's one thing to see if someone might come down on their price It's another when you have grown men & women film themselves trying to nickel and dime people when they have thousands of dollars because their taking advantage of people and to top it off you have all these people watching it so if your wondering why Mario Galaxy costs 50 dollars used It's because of people like this smh
Retro gaming hippie approves! Great video and insight.
I have been collecting toys and games for a few decades now. Just like Jay mentioned, when you collect, you also do some flipping so you can as to your collection. I also tend to trade more than sell and it is not a business for me. My mark up is minuscule.
I laugh at most resellers for 2 reasons.
1. They overvalue things. Sold and completed listings are 2 different things to me on eBay.
2. I did a video quite awhile back, where I came across a reseller that used their phone to scan items. Basically told him that If I tossed his phone away, he would be lost. It pays to know value based on experience.
I feel bad for those resellers that are killing some of these mom/pop video game stores. I have two in my area and they get resellers that come in asking for well over price charting for games.
I always love when Melvor brings up Antiques Roadshow lol
Antiques Roadshow rules 🤘
Did Melvor just get done Fear and Loathing in Vegas? lol
I love you Melvor ❤
@Pixelgamesquad, I just finished watching your episode with Ricky and Gabbo, where you got the Punisher and Gunsmoke at the end from Gabbo. You are guys are pretty entertaining when you go out hunting (not as crude as the Chasers who remind me of people I grew up with) and I gladly will throw on one of your vids for some entertainment, still a hundred times better than mainstream TV.
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You guys have been around for long enough and have a dedicated enough fan base that will always be here for whatever you guys are putting out
I don’t think I’m alone in saying that I appreciate you guys staying true to yourselves and keeping it fun and, most importantly, genuine
Got to meet Billy and Jay at SEGE a few years back and it was very cool. Love you guys, keep chasin whatever makes you happy
I agree with what @RetroRyan stated but I also have an issue with taking what used to be a fun part of the hobby, the thrill of the hunt, into a seek and destroy mission.
If I go to a yard sale, I have to be on the lookout who is hovering near me and trying to get what I might have seen or not, with the intent to flip. When I am chasing, I am looking out not only for myself but also for our friends and fellow collectors who actually want these items.
Reseller content also feeds into the false narrative that anyone can get up and do this and that viewers should do this. But again, this hurts collectors and local businesses and really inflates the market. I liked making pick-up videos, but I don't want them to group into reselling content because that's not what I do with my pickups. Those of us in our community tend to trade or just send items to each other because we're friends and collectors. If collectors stop paying these inflated prices, maybe the solution would correct itself.
Excellent points made Zom 💪
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I enjoy your style videos over the videos the resellers make. Prolly since I’m of the older generation of collectors who went out and looked to find something for their collections like you guys do. So watching you is nostalgic for me haha
I buy to keep.
Right on friend.
I don't really watch them. I get them in my recommendation and I'm like "these channels ain't the same, TH-cam"
Being roughly 15 years in the hobby (if not more), locally it went from nearly everyone being a collector and user of what they bought to more than 90% of the market being resellers. The local scene, which is the biggest in my country, has 2 big retro events one almost purely being retro-gaming market and that's always packed. The other is basically a pop-up arcade mainly with retro consoles, and no buying and selling of any kind, and that has been dying a slow death in visitor volume. That went from what looks like a packed houseparty around 2013 in a former highschool to an event that only has a few hand full of visitors in a bar, most of which are there mainly to enter a fighting game tournament.
Retrogaming as a hobby seems to be dying everywhere, it's resellers that are picking at the corpse.
The big issue I have with resellers is that they inflate pricing, heavily. They buy an item for 1 dollar, see it goes online for 10 and try to sell it at 11, and if they need to sit on it for a while that's fine (and in the case of resell youtubers also add the morally questionable action of setting the price as an "expert" and then selling to their own audience). And then the perceived "new standard" will be hiked up again.
It's the same issue I have with NFT's and crypto, it's "hustle culture", just a way to buy in and attempt to sell for more to the next sucker that tries to do the exact same thing.
You guys inspired me to start my TH-cam channel and start filming all my finds! I should’ve started it 10 years ago or more. I have a entire vintage toy room and video game room. THANK YOU❗️ I flip video game systems and any duplicates I find. To put back into my collection but I am not a freaking reseller.
My problem is more so with the ethics of those youtubers who expressly buy up games, film that for content, tell their audiences to watch them auction it off on Whatnot, and then pressure their audience into buying up their stock during the auction stream. At that point, they're pretty much saying they're okay with manipulating their audience into profiting off of them. And that to me is scummy as hell.
Very good to bring up the ethics of the situation!
This is all of them unfortunately
I just hate that I can never find anything anymore. Any time a game is cheap someone just buys out the whole store
Any word on the Blu-ray seasons yet? I don't mind resellers as much as Kickstarter/Patreon sellers that push blame on the disc printers for going years of taking funds from backers and not providing the goods to their customers. We are approaching Intelliviision Amiico Tommy Tallarico levels here with this. Come on Billy, Get those orders out.
Exactly! Let’s not forget about the Cheetah Men scandal. They have also forgotten about the video that was deleted last year of when Jay was throwing around the gifts people send in and him making remarks of reselling the games at their convention.
The worst part about this new resellers is that they know so little about games and yes you don't have to know to sell but if you have a youtube channel or business at least read the history of a particular console or games and then you start , but they always mess up trying to be the ones who knows and every time they end like clowns.
Great video guys! Long time subscriber! As a collector first, I always try and find things to add to my collection. Unfortunately like many a lot of what I need I won’t find game hunting and need to get off eBay or from a game store; therefore, I buy things to trade for them. I always try and find things to trade first and then sell if I can’t trade. Keep up the great work!
Ya 10 yrs ago before youtubers blew up and even getting paid to run commercials on their platform its in everyone's face there used to be deals out there 10yrs ago....
I watch both this channel and some of the ones mentioned. I enjoy both. The thing I enjoy the most is the camaraderie and friendships on display. Friends just having a good time hanging out and sharing nostalgia together. Both your channel and NES Pursuit stand out in this regard.
I collected alot Video games and toys when I was younger. I have a ton of stuff, from working at Kaybee toys and hollywood video. I ran out of space. My garage, shed, and storage is full. I don't want to sell my stuff, but my son doesn't want to deal with it either when I pass. I most likely am going to have to sell most of it and just keep the stuff I cherish the most.
Do it ASAP before it ends up on a yardsale for cheap or goodwill and some random dude does a youtube video bragging how he got $10k worth of games for $400 lol.
Long time viewer. Started watching for the "Game Chasing" quickly learned the best episodes are about watching the adventure itself. I don't care when an episode doesn't have a find, it's the fun and adventure I am here for and the interactions you all have together. Keep it up fellas!
I really like how everyone talks over each other. Makes it super easy to listen to. Get more guys in there to talk.
Heh heh
Are the gam4 chasers really Ebeggars? I’m about to unsubscribe, I hate that predatory sh**
Resellers are the reason why I don't collect retro anymore and im currently saving up for a gaming pc so i can just emulate instead. Id rather pirate then give my money to them.
I made the mistake of selling my see through green 64 back in the day. From that day onward I swore to never sell anything unless I hate it or have doubles 😂 only collect what I want to play.
Video Game Mike was an OG & honest reseller.
"I gave Jay a free Mario Bros/Duck Hunt so he could keep coming back to buy more.... And I have 13 copies"
-Video Game Mike
Good dude
It's wild that even at the Goodwill by the Pound people just grab every single video game possible. Last time I went I found video games piled up where they tossed them after looking up the prices. Luckily there are a lot of games in CD cases that people tend to overlook.
i live in a pretty rural area and all my usual stops have dried up because a few people started reselling after watching phoenix resale. really sucks for my own personal hunts.
This is so true. Shorts it’s packed with resellers.
In the sneaker community we call them Little Timmys. Kids who buy up everything to resell with the goal of basically becoming an influencer.
With games getting more expensive, I had two choices. Buy little to nothing because of the rising prices or resell so I can expand my collection. I chose to resell, and my collection exploded. Scalpers buying up stuff at retail and jacking up the price give resellers a bad name. It kept game hunting fun for me because I look at everything, not just what I want for myself since most of the stuff I want I'm not going to come across hunting
Yeah man, like in 2010 the term "reseller" was the ultimate insult on NintendoAge. The problem was, every single person, except the rich, on that site resold. How the hell else are we supposed to afford this shit. And that was 2010 prices.
Melvor looks like he slangs 3rd party fishing gear in the parking lots of Bass Pro Shops
I actually do miss the price showing tbh, just because it showed how good of a deal you got at the time.
Jay brought up current toy scalpers.I’d love a video from you guys talking about what current items you are collecting.
Melvor ,Love the “Lesbian fisherman “vibes .
Did you guy interrupt Melvor from gardening to make a video?
Underrated comment
Lol I was wondering the same. He looks like he's about to plant some flowers, or he's going on safari.
There is so passion to the hobby with these types of programs.
Melvor looks like my grandma when she’s out gardening
I think your show is one of those shows that was its own unique thing that got copied so quickly that you never really had a chance to cash in on the idea. What you've done is inspired a whole lot of people who are far less interesting most of the time to use your concept, and since it expands beyond videogames easily as your Toy-based channel demonstrated, people just boosted the idea.
I only discovered your show during the pandemic, while stuck at home, and since I was no longer able to go out hunting for retro games, I lived through the episodes. You guys will always have a special place in my heart for the laughs you gave me during a weird/rough time.
It's too bad there are so many clones of your show, but on the other hand, it's pretty cool that you've gone and influenced so many other people to document their own escapades.
Shoutout to Heckin Steve
nothing is more entertaining than watching somebody with a chest cam checking every item on ebay or amazon.
Melvor’s look is lowkey super trendy in the skateboarding scene right now
Chad Muska circa 1998
Melvor just know we all love yah man. I know it gets old for people to rag on you but it's because everyone likes you. Legit.
The whole reason I like you guys’ channel is because you capture the essence of the average dudes going to find retro games out in the wild for your own benefit/collection. Not for resale purposes unless it’s doubles and you use the profit to gain more later for your own collection and that’s what I do. Anybody can go online and just buy whatever they want but then there’s no thrill of the hunt and that’s what’s so captivating about y’all’s content. For us that collect in that way we feel we are there with you because we have been there. And damn those online resellers!!! 😂 but I do enjoy retrorick’s content because he has a sweet ass store and we know what and why he does what he does. Keep it going you guys. Yall will always be the “goat” in my mind of TH-cam retro game hunting!!!
The term Reseller gets a lot of hate. It's tricky for sure. Our channel is dedicated to life inside the Game Store. Technically, we resell games, but we sell the games that other people sell to us. We don't really go hunting and 98% of the games in our store were either sold to us or traded in. Great conversation for sure.
Love seeing the whole gang together!
I recently startet doing this. Buying cheap, sell higher. But it's mostly to finance my own collection to get the things I want or need or whatever. Also I started buying Gameboy machines that need some love and care, fixing them and mark it up a bit for some small profit.
Melvor looks like he's in Fear and Loaving in Lasvegas, a Melvor and Dedongo remake would be amazing haha
the melvor ai pic at the end so good
I've seen your short videos where you make the title ALL about a game you found and the huge amount it's worth. You guys were one of the earlier channels on youtube who played a big part in showing a large audience of people that you can find old games cheap and the fact that they are worth a lot of money. Doing these videos, ironically, you've been basically advertising it to a lot of resellers and more potential competition over the years.
Have you seen American pickers?
@@Lhatesramen My comment is referring to the youtubers side of things and that show isn't all about the video game side of things either which is the topic.
Jay saying maybe he should buy and sell vintage windbreakers.. I just sold a Nike windbreaker (jacket only) for $125. It was my older brothers and he left it at my mom’s house in a box of stuff he went through saying he didn’t want.
I seized the opportunity 😂 He wore it a lot and I’m surprised it still was in a like new condition.
I haven’t told him because he’d be p!!ssed 😅. It’s not about the jacket but it would be about the money to him. I used that to buy more Crazy Taxi games for my collection.
This. Everyone’s a reseller now. Not a collector first who trades or resells to be able to add new stuff to the collection, just straight up resellers looking to exploit.
As far as retro stores go, I'm lucky in the area I live in to still have the same store that has been here since 1993. The ownership has changed hands over the years but he keeps the prices fair. Other stores shut down due then low balling trade ins & upcharging what the value of the game is.
Resellers have ruined the collectors community. Theyve ruined it forever. Anything pop culture is screwed
Great discussion 💯
This is why i love you guys and froggy flips. He looks for things he loves and every once in a while buys stuff off his radar to sell. Hes not out look to rip people off.
When the guys started roasting on the guy in the fisherman's hat I'm like okay whatever you say "Look-A-Like Tom Cruise"
Me and my wife went into the game exchange in grand prairie the other day. Only reason is because i thought it would be cool to stand in the same spot as where yall first met. Was pretty cool.
I agree on the topic, but where is my Blu-Ray movie you guys made? Come on, I will never do a kickstarter with you guys again...
I'm a reseller. I go to garage sales and buy all kinds of stuff to sell online. Sometimes it's video games, sometimes it's books, sometimes it's a vacuum cleaner. Just another widget to me tbh.
Resellers create and help blow up bubbles, pricing out someone who might have just wanted to reconnect with their nostalgia. The worst ones are those that argue about it like they're not doing anything wrong.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who has noticed this trend. Resellers used to be sooo frowned upon. Remember all the crap Hancock got just for mentioning a MUSEUM!??
Retro game collecting is relatively new and it's just going through some growing pains. Learn from a hobby like comic collecting, which has been around for 50 years. It started as a community of people who just loved the medium, but eventually attracted people who were only in it for the money. The key is identifying the good people who actually give a shit. The bad actors will eventually move on because their heart isn't in it.
I hate pixel game squad, they're just the same as Phoenix resale. Also retro Rick is part of that group too. All of them are resellers and they're ruining the fun of finding games out in the wild. Disagree with me, I don't care. I wish the resellers would stop doing what they do and get a real physical paying job
or at least move away from video games and flip something else like appliances or something
I haven't figured out Retro Rick yet. With him though, he goes where he wants and buys what he wants at whatever price and you can't compete with that either. It's like his millionaire dad, so to speak, gives me money and tells him "okay, buy it store it." He doesn't seem to buy it off a budget which is less interesting. BUT, in all fairness, being stingy and wanting a game for $3 and expecting such a huge discount, fair is fair. You have a limit, which is self-control, but there's extremely low and rediculously high. I figure that's why someone did the research and came up with Price Charts was to show you what was fair and what was unrealistic. Good on you for finding Little Sampson for $3 and who would've ever thought you'd sell it, and also the Flintstones but, let's be fair too, it's entertains us but that's the two-edged sword or the catch 22 is that people see your videos either themselves or someone tells the seller: Dude, you were had! And then they're on their guard because of the internet so now everyone's doing research so, it's to the detriment of collectors when like Mark with Truxton, Johnny Ferguson with Ys, James Rolfe with Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, yeah, that game isn't $.99 anymore. TH-cam Channels are driving the market up so, you can't really win either way. You have to keep up with games and get them at sales and see how their value goes up but, thinking that way, your mindset is no different than the re-sellers anyway and soon, channels such as yourselves have to evolve with it to stay relevant because games are going all digital, sadly, and then what? Games to too expensive to buy that are older and then what? It's seems like we're getting closer and closer to apocalyptic times. It gets boring. I hate modern gaming. This console generation is the my least favorite, there's nothing to be excited about anymore. Xbox is giving up and everyone's expecting everything on all platforms, exclusives don't exist anymore. Console Wars made things interesting. Nintendo vs Sega, that's all dying and it's boring. PS4 was okay but not nearly as good as the PS3 era. AND WHO CAN DO GAME ROOMS THESE DAYS WITH SUCH A CRAPPY HOUSING MARKET. I lost my job and had to move and I can't even afford housing where I'm living and have to stay with family so I can't enjoy my collection, it's in a storage unit in another state while the weather is doing who knows what to it, it sucks!
[EDIT] Sorry about your basement by-the-way, that sucks. Really surprised to see a basement in Texas but I guess that's why y'all don't have them
Melvor looks like he's strait out of fear and loathing in Vermont!
Resellers = Scalpers
Oh yeah, reselling used to be an absolute SIN in the late 2000s/early 2010s, to the point where I was only buying games I didn't want or already had, even if I could have made some good money from them. Now I buy whatever I can find, because the collecting sphere has changed so dramatically and finding anything for a reasonable price is almost impossible.
Yeah, if you're buying doubles to trade or sell to keep your own collection going. Do you. It's the people like Jay said, that go to Walmart at the buttcrack of dawn to snipe 20 PS5's to turn 300+ dollar profits on that are scummy.
You guys just keep being you, please. You're one of if not the only game hunting channels that actually feel real and just not. Hey, look what I got for 3 bucks now, like and subscribe to see if I sell it or not. My point is you guys are just buddies hunting for games, and that's what makes it great and relatable.
Bring back some more toy chasers, or if you want to pivot you could always do the paranormal chasers.
First of all, I'm on a Game Chasers thumbnail so that's a bucket list item crossed off 👍. You guys were a large part of my inspiration to start a channel. But I've gone from showing pickups and no one caring, to showing profits and seeing growth. To now where a lot of people are fed up with people reselling things they find. And I hear where everyone is coming from really. I don't resell games for a living. I buy, sell & trade within a hobby. But I realize my show needs to reflect that Im a collector first and it hasn't done that in recent past. So Im pivoting the focus back to the collecting alone. Great talk, guys.
I feel the same way.I was just like to buy something.I like and don't have to pay three times surprise