I just bought this interface with the thunderbolt card. All I could do was install the card, but then I couldn't get any sound off of it. This tutorial here has helped me set it up using the Dante port. Thank you so much. It seems I can only stream full 7.1.4 via the Dante cos the thunderbolt card keeps giving out 5.1, that is, when I'm playing music from apple music.
For some reason Mac still doesn't read any audio interface with a channel count over 16 channels to work with 7.1.4. To fix this with Thunderbolt, you have to download a separate core audio driver for the MTRX Studio, even for MacOS. That audio driver will give you the ability to switch between 64 and 16 channels, along with different Sample Rates. Here is the link for the manual, page 80 is how to download the driver and change the interface channel count: resources.avid.com/SupportFiles/MTRX/Pro_Tools_MTRX_Studio_Guide.pdf#page89
I see that!! Very cool tech. I haven't looked into it much, but does that mean you have to rely on the amount of DSP it has available? Or is it a designated DSP card for speaker calibration?
Both are very good options!! The Apogee definitely has some capabilities that the MTRX could be better at. If you are wanting to go with something "cheaper" and has less options for calibration and Atmos ready features built-in, The Red is good too. When I think of the "Best interface", I think about the best in terms of what the standalone unit can do more than what the competition can do without additional hardware. Which is why it didn't fit my needs for the price. And unfortunately, The Red is less feature heavy than I need to future proof my studio. But I will say, I LOVE Apogee's GUI. It definitely works better for some people. I would absolutely recommend them if you don't need as much onboard I/O. :)
@@hepphepps8356 I found the MTRX Studio to sound awesome but using DADman was such a PIA. Ended up with the Focusrite 16Line and a R1. It sounds amazing as well and haven't had a single issue with it. Also tried along the way an Antelope Galaxy 32 - actually 2 of them as QC on the units is very poor. It also sounds nice but not as good as the MTRX Studio or the 16Line - both of which are really impressive sonically.
I'm not sure what you mean by "cooking". When it comes down to a USB interface, it really depends on the practicality you are looking for (tracking drums often = more I/O, or portability = small form factor). I believe there are some plug-ins that do work with the Apogee line for on-board DSP!!
How is the input delay using only Dante? I considered buying the MTRX Studio an only using Dante instead of waiting forever for the Thunderbolt card. We track just 1 audio track at a time when we do Voice Over sessions and I'm wondering about in the input delay, if there is any. We want the MTRX Studio using Dante to be the output for our Atmos as well as the ability to track 1 track of dialog ADR, VoiceOver, Etc when we need to. I'm guessing you are recording your mic using the MTRZ Studio / Dante into Protools?
I do not use Pro Tools. I am using Logic Pro!! The way I record my microphones is by using an external interface with ADAT (Focusrite 18i20). So far, I have not had issues with recording latency. When I monitor playback for microphones, I typically use the direct monitoring that I can configure within Dadman, and I hardly ever use software monitoring when recording, vocals or voiceovers. And if I did, I would use Logic's low latency mode. In my opinion, well typically be just as good as your average USB interface. I am also using a thunderbolt 3 USB hub, so results may vary between that as well.
DADMAN does not have an import function to my knowledge... You will have to manually record your EQ levels using an analyzer such as REW (Room EQ Wizard).
Here is a link with a good explanation on how to get everything situated for calibrating in DADMAN. There is another link at the bottom of the page that goes more in depth: www.production-expert.com/home-page/how-to-set-up-the-dad-avid-spq-card-using-the-free-room-eq-wizard
How so?? It's just a learning curve. Otherwise, I really like it. Very practical, very flexible, lots of very useful features that most control programs don't have (in my opinion).
I just bought this interface with the thunderbolt card. All I could do was install the card, but then I couldn't get any sound off of it. This tutorial here has helped me set it up using the Dante port. Thank you so much. It seems I can only stream full 7.1.4 via the Dante cos the thunderbolt card keeps giving out 5.1, that is, when I'm playing music from apple music.
For some reason Mac still doesn't read any audio interface with a channel count over 16 channels to work with 7.1.4. To fix this with Thunderbolt, you have to download a separate core audio driver for the MTRX Studio, even for MacOS. That audio driver will give you the ability to switch between 64 and 16 channels, along with different Sample Rates.
Here is the link for the manual, page 80 is how to download the driver and change the interface channel count: resources.avid.com/SupportFiles/MTRX/Pro_Tools_MTRX_Studio_Guide.pdf#page89
RME's TotalMix has room/speaker calibration onboard DSP
I see that!! Very cool tech. I haven't looked into it much, but does that mean you have to rely on the amount of DSP it has available? Or is it a designated DSP card for speaker calibration?
Just gotta be aware that Dante Virtual Soundcard adds minimum 8ms latency
MTRX, AX32/64, Antelope Galaxy 32/64 and Audient recently released a new one called ORIA but it only has 16 dante channels on input only.
All are great interfaces!!
hey another really cool vid! do you do mixing or mastering for bands?
Send me a message on my instagram!! @mountainlabelmusic
Best debatable Focusrite Red and the Apogee are super nice and work well.
Both are very good options!! The Apogee definitely has some capabilities that the MTRX could be better at. If you are wanting to go with something "cheaper" and has less options for calibration and Atmos ready features built-in, The Red is good too. When I think of the "Best interface", I think about the best in terms of what the standalone unit can do more than what the competition can do without additional hardware. Which is why it didn't fit my needs for the price. And unfortunately, The Red is less feature heavy than I need to future proof my studio.
But I will say, I LOVE Apogee's GUI. It definitely works better for some people. I would absolutely recommend them if you don't need as much onboard I/O. :)
The Focusrite Red Line16 has all of the same I/O and Dante as well. I'm not a Mac user, but Focusrite makes rock-solid drivers for Windows users.
Definitely a great option for Dolby Atmos as well!!
No speaker calibration though and about the same price.
The focusrite stuff doesn’t sound anywhere nearly as good, isn’t as stable, isn’t as user friendly. We junked it. Kept our Matrixes (of both kinds)
@@markettel9935 not a problem if you have smart speakers like genelec or adam.
@@hepphepps8356 I found the MTRX Studio to sound awesome but using DADman was such a PIA. Ended up with the Focusrite 16Line and a R1. It sounds amazing as well and haven't had a single issue with it. Also tried along the way an Antelope Galaxy 32 - actually 2 of them as QC on the units is very poor. It also sounds nice but not as good as the MTRX Studio or the 16Line - both of which are really impressive sonically.
What USB model Apogee do you recommend for cooking with plugins? I use vst 100% of the time
I'm not sure what you mean by "cooking". When it comes down to a USB interface, it really depends on the practicality you are looking for (tracking drums often = more I/O, or portability = small form factor). I believe there are some plug-ins that do work with the Apogee line for on-board DSP!!
How is the input delay using only Dante? I considered buying the MTRX Studio an only using Dante instead of waiting forever for the Thunderbolt card. We track just 1 audio track at a time when we do Voice Over sessions and I'm wondering about in the input delay, if there is any. We want the MTRX Studio using Dante to be the output for our Atmos as well as the ability to track 1 track of dialog ADR, VoiceOver, Etc when we need to. I'm guessing you are recording your mic using the MTRZ Studio / Dante into Protools?
I do not use Pro Tools. I am using Logic Pro!! The way I record my microphones is by using an external interface with ADAT (Focusrite 18i20). So far, I have not had issues with recording latency. When I monitor playback for microphones, I typically use the direct monitoring that I can configure within Dadman, and I hardly ever use software monitoring when recording, vocals or voiceovers. And if I did, I would use Logic's low latency mode. In my opinion, well typically be just as good as your average USB interface. I am also using a thunderbolt 3 USB hub, so results may vary between that as well.
Dante is locked to either 4ms, 6ms, or 10ms latency. this is configured in the Virtual Sound Card.
Thank you! Does dadman only can calibrate the speaker by manually?
Dadman does have manual calibration. You will have to figure the EQ curve of your listening position, and adjust the SPQ accordingly!!
@@mountainlabelmusic Thank you！ So whether dadman support import some calibration settings from measure application, like smaart ?
DADMAN does not have an import function to my knowledge... You will have to manually record your EQ levels using an analyzer such as REW (Room EQ Wizard).
Here is a link with a good explanation on how to get everything situated for calibrating in DADMAN. There is another link at the bottom of the page that goes more in depth: www.production-expert.com/home-page/how-to-set-up-the-dad-avid-spq-card-using-the-free-room-eq-wizard
@@xizi0219It can use Sonarworks to make a calibration-fole for the SPQ card.
Dadman is a pain in the @$$
How so?? It's just a learning curve. Otherwise, I really like it. Very practical, very flexible, lots of very useful features that most control programs don't have (in my opinion).