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Fellow RF-1200 owner... Can confirm, I have no idea how the rear vent settings work. Great helmet, especially in cooler temperatures when the vents are closed and wind noise is minimal.
I, as well, never knew the answer until I eventually replaced the RF 1200 many years later. I just assumed it’s open the same way the front vent (clearly visible opening) is open which is switching it to the right?😂
As a cycle gear employee and a x-14 rider I can tell you a bit more about the rf-1200 vs x-14, when the rf-1200 was around it was one of the best and most populer helmets on the market, it was quit, safe and good quality, (all shoei helmets are hand made in Japan, also a reflection on the price!) the rf-1200 and x-14 are similar but definitely very different, X-14 pads are fully adjustable on the inside they are made out 9-12 components to make a perfect fit, it is also adjustable for track meaning you can position the pad in a way to get the aero dynamics from the helmet when tucked in, something you cannot do with any other helmet in shoeis line up. (X-14 was tested in a wind tunnel ) the bottom vent on x-14 is not chin vent it is actually a cheek pad vent, refer to a video by Cycle Gear's sister company Revzilla. Getting a $300 helmet is not the same as getting a $500 - $1000 helmet, when purchasing an $1000 helmet you will be paying in most cases for features, safety and quality. PS: When purchasing a helmet please get properly fitted for one, fit is very important in a helmet if you were to go down. (In the rf-1200, when holding the helmet, back facing towards your self: to the right vent is closed middle is open.)
I went down hard on a AGV K1 that costed me 150USD and shit saved my head. Didnt even lose my glasses. Good helmet has a lot of variables besides the asking price. imo.
Spite, if you want to know the difference between the two helmets get on a ZX10 and go in full tuck. The X14's shape allows you lean forward and still tilt your head back. The 1200 will slam into the back of your neck and roll the helmet forward. You're not going to find the difference on that bike. Keep up the great work!
Exactly. The RF1200, 1100 and 1000 helmets are great but very difficult to see ahead in a full tuck. The X14 visor extends higher on the forehead as well for a decent view.
Recently replaced my Sedici Strada Gen 1 with an RF-1400, and good lord! The quietness that Spite talks about is spot on, but also the lack of wind buffeting. Moving my head around at freeway speeds in the RF feels the same as at a stoplight in regards to strain on my neck, compared to the Sedici which felt like it wanted to rip my face off. Difference may be small from $500-$1000 helmets, but there’s a HUGE difference going from a $150-$500 helmet.
I have the Shoei RF 1400 with the transition visor (took 10 months on a waiting list to get the visor but it's awesome). Could not ask for more. Worth every penny!.....and oh yah.... Spite Rules!
Maybe look into that with the transition visor. I am pretty sure I damaged my eyes by working a yard with transition glasses. They were not UV protected, so my pupils let in UV because they did not shrink as they should in bright light. It might be natural degeneration but the degradation in my vision was only accelerated over that period. It was steady before and steady after. I view it like pain killers on a bad back, you don't feel the pain but you are still doing more damage.
I have both in medium and they wear totally different. These two helmets do not compare when it comes to head shape. I rarely wear the NXR (RF-1200) and almost always wear the X-Spirit III (X-Fourteen). What I love about the X-Spirit III (X-Fourteen): 1. The fit. It fits my head way better. 2. It has better ventilation. You can even have all vents open in the rain, and you won't be waterboarded. 3. It's way more stable than the NXR (RF-1200). 4. It has more room in front of the chin. 5. It's quiet. Also, this video was released 3 days ago? When was it shot? The X-Spirit III was replaced by the X-SPR Pro, which is now FIM Homologated. For those wondering: DOT < SNELL < ECE < FIM DOT: A safety standard that needs to be tested by the manufacturer. Most helmets that carry the DOT sticker don't conform to the requirements, and even if they do, those requirements are so stupidly lacking that they provide little protection from injury. SNELL: A real safety standard developed in the US to protect race car drivers. It's primarily focused on penetration resistance which is important in car racing, but not as important for motorcyclists. Racing drivers are in a cage and restrained by seatbelts. Impact absorption is not the priority. For motorcyclists it must be because their heads will impact the road or obstacles in a crash. ECE: The European standard for motorcycle helmets. Their focus is on impact absorption and shell integrity, as wel as rotational force on the spine. This was the highest safety standard until... FIM: The Motorcycle division of the FIA. They take the ECE standards and dial them up to 11. These standards add high speed impact requirements to the ECE standards as well as crush resistance. Very few helmets meet the FIM requirements. Anything other than a full face helmet will not be tested by FIM because they are an automatic fail.
Fellow X-Fourteen here… it’s a great helmet. My favorite that I have ever owned. Once wore in, the comfort can’t be beat. As stated, it’s also the quietest! Hands down!
I recently switched from a Bell Brooser to an Arai Concept X, mainly because one of my local shops had a massive sale and I got a good price on it. I could not believe the night and day difference between the two. So much quieter, so much less buffeting in the Arai, and so much easier to keep the external visa clean than in the Brooser with its very cool looking fighter pilot style visor. The styling on the Bell definitely had an impact on some performance, so even though I really like the Bell, the Arai just feels far more premium. This is worth the difference to me.
OK. A tip. Spite said the helmets were DOT and Snell rated. If you pull back the strap padding on the lashing side you will find the ECE rating sown onto the long strap. It is actually part of the ECE standard that it be sown onto that strap. The DOT and Snell rating is only a US thing. Even Australia accepts that an ECE rating is good enough internationally as a standard and doesn't require internal testing to confirm it.
SHOEI Neotec II here. Also a pricey lid, also very quiet and comfortable. Helmets are a little like running shoes in that they're made from different "lasts" or patterns. Shoes are made to fit different feet, helmets are made to fit different heads. So if a new buyer is thinking of what to get, I'd suggest you measure your noggin, do your research, and try on some helmets from different brands to get a feel for what works. The answer won't always boil down to the thousand-dollar lid.
Hi, i use Shoei NXR (EU version of RF1200) for the past 12+ months (20.000km/12500 miles) on naked bike (Kawasaki Z900). Before i used HJC RPHA10+ for 7 years and was very pleased with it. Shoei have better chin vent, but, HJC move much more air on top of the head. Shoei have ruffer interior (cheekpads), but not a problem, HJC just uses smoother fabric. I loved my HJC, but RPHA11 changed sizes and L size i usualy wear is to small for me and XL is far too large (different shell between L and XL). Shoei NXR (RF1200) was perfect in L size for me (i boght it when NXR2/RF1400 was just released and i got great deal) and its a good helmet. Both Shoei and HJC are not loud (would not defined them as quiet), both are aerodynimic enough so buffeting is nonexistent (on naked bike), both (size L) are tight but comfort fit for my 59.3cm circumference head (medium oval with tendency to round). All in all, Shoei NXR/RF1200 is a great helmet, especially for 250 euros i paid for it. Lack of inner dark visor is a plus for me: i much more prefer fully tinted visor (i ride only in daytime), HJC gives that aditional visor with the helmet for free, for Shoei i bought it separately
I spent $1200 on my Shoei X 15 and after riding for 35 years it’s the best helmet I’ve ever owned and worth every penny it is so aerodynamic that you literally feel zero wind on your head when you’re doing 140 miles an hour. You can ride at 100 miles an hour for eight hours straight withoutfeeling a single strain in your neck at all because it is so aerodynamic. The X 15 was designed in Shoeis wind tunnel, and it is made for high speed motorcycle racing. It is silent zero noise, perfectly quiet so smooth like butter through the air no matter how much turbulence your windscreen might make the helmet will be as smooth as glass.
If you're looking for a decent quality option, my hand goes to LS2, their helmets are not bad whatsoever for the price point. I got an LS2 Assault as my first and it came with pinlock and internal visor, and decent ventilation. A bit noisy but, that's to be expected with more affordable options. I know plenty of buddies still rockin em
I had a few helmets over the years mainly HJC (Cl-15), Shark (Race R & D-Skwal 2.2), AGV(corsa & Compact st) & Shoei (x-14). Like what was mentioned in the video, the higher up the price range, the helmet is quieter & generally plushier cushions. While you could bring approved full face helmets to the track, helmets like Agv corsa / pista, x14 and the likes are stable at high speeds and I think that’s why they demand more money. For the street, a mid price helmet can do the job well. Main thing get one that fits. I think HJC provides the most value for money helmets, shoei quietest and AGV coolest. Haven’t try other brands yet. I have bad experience with both my Shark helmets.
I spent $1200 on my Shoei X 15 and after writing for 35 years it’s the best helmet I’ve ever owned and worth every penny it is so aerodynamic that you literally feel zero wind on your head when you’re doing 140 miles an hour. You can ride at 100 miles an hour for eight hours straight withoutfeeling a single strain in your neck at all because it is so aerodynamic.
I think it's always good and fun to review gear to get more people to value their safety. Also great for getting sponsors. When I bought my gear I researched a shit ton of stuff and came to conclusion a 500+ helmet usually made of fiberglass have better safety then ones made of Polycarbonat. But both helmets are still very safe. You pay for name, options/features within or on the helmet, shape and graphics. Then it's becomes a matter of which you like most, like you said. I ride with an HJC C70 which is known to be a really safe helmet, well equipped but a bit noisy. I ride with ear protection in so won't really notice that much until I get a more quiet helmet at some point in the future and at that point I probably be like oh wauw how could I ride with the other helmet lol.
Correction Spite: RF-1400 still has rear vent. Gone is the option to close the rear vent. You X-14 may not have the rear vent. On the RF -1400, by not being able to close the rear vent air is “sucked up” behind the chin curtain and swirls in front of your nose before being evacuated by the rear vent…sucks when it is under 50ish degrees. Best cold weather helmet is a Snell approved snowmobile helmet. Soooo quiet! I noticed very little difference between the HJC $150 snowmobile helmet and my new RG-1400.
I'm at 11 months and 6200 miles with my Rf-1400 and I think I've spoiled myself for cheaper helmets in the future. It's so comfortable and quiet, and warm enough for some pretty cold riding.
on the RF -1200 rear vent. if looking directly at the back of the helmet with the visor facing forward, the left position is the open vent position, (tabs should be centered if you look at the vent)
Good video and good review. I could never spend $1,000 on a helmet. I currently have a slightly more than $200 HJC and it serves me well. When I do replace it, I might just get a similar one, one size larger because for some reason this one is getting a little too snug. Thanks Spite.
I usually wouldnt but I am interested in the Forcite helmet. Has a camera built into the chinbar recording at 1080/60, 40mm HK speakers built in, has basic nav/warning signals in the form of lights so they arent a distraction as a popup, and if you get into an accident I believe if you can send in the working camera portion they'll deduct that from a new helmet. ECE rated and all that too of course. Definitely one to keep an eye on.
For someone that rides at high speeds (130+), this helmet has stood out in a few areas: aerodynamics and sound. I had an AGV K6 before this and it was pretty loud and the wind threw my head all over the place. With the X14, the wind feels like it goes around the helmet much better and doesn’t throw my head around. Also the sound levels are considerably better on the X14. One more thing, my head doesn’t get nearly as hot in 90F+ days with the X14. Would definitely buy it again if something happened to my current one.
The videos where you do something are much more interesting to me than the ones where you talk about something while doing something else. This video is a good one.
I enjoy these little comparison reviews. Kind of like what Fortnine USED to do. now Fortnine and really high production but on very specific situations in a narrative that will almost never exist, but they're fun to watch. They used to do comparisons like understanding FIM/ECE/SNELL/ETC. Or comparing Cheap vs Expensive, Amazon gear vs actual gear. Maybe there are existing videos of those but those were 5 years ago. It doesn't look like they're going to ever update those videos. They're production was really high, and I know you're just one guy, so you have to do the best at your pace. But I enjoy these. I was looking at the RF but I ultimately went with a HJC that is 1/3 the cost and used the money saved to buy a Cardo. At least a helmet that has more than basic DOT garbage rating.
Been using a RPHA11 for a year now. got it for 285 brand new (old stock) and love it so far. came with dark/light shield and pinlock. lighter than the shoei. The pads and chin curtain also look more plush and higher quality than the shoei, with leather trim and stitching as opposed to only mesh. The vents work spectacular and cutouts for BT systems work great.
I tried a lot of helmets before I settled on an Arai, simply because it seems to be the only one to fit my huge round head. Not many helmets designed for round heads, always putting pressure and giving me headaches an hour into riding. So to me it was worth it. Doesn't really look cool though, and not very noise isolating, but comfort > everything else.
Same here, I tried on both the x14 and 1400 from Shoei and there was a pressure point at the back. Arai, perfect fit. Still waiting for my Corsair X Kiyonari in black white n gold, should be here next month.
I settled on an Arai Signet Q after spending two hours trying on helmets at the local cycle shop. I have a long-oval shaped head, *really* hard to fit. It fit like they used my head for the molds. After 7 years, I am still wearing it because it's replacement doesn't quite fit as well. Pre-Covid, I was a long distance biker. 16 to 20 hour days weren't unusual. Helmet fit is *really* important to me, because in the summers, I lived in the helmet.
Finally an honest review. I hate when reviewers compare $1000 lids with AliExpress $60 lids... we all know the AliExpress ones are garbage, but more money doesn't equal more safety. My helmet was $400 and I love it!
If spending some time on the track the X14 has another advantage with field of view. When tucked in with your head close to the tank, the visor angle is more upward giving more view.
I’ve been wearing Shoei helmets for years on the street and on the track. My advice-buy a helmet that fits and has whatever certs you want/need. More money generally gets you less weight, more options and less noise, but doesn’t necessarily make you safer…
Have a HJC RPHA 90s. Great helmet it’s modular, cut down a ton on wind noise, tons of vents. Pin lock with anti-fog insert. I paid a little under 500 and compared to my HJC i110 is well worth the money.
I have an5 year old Shoei Quest and is still very good and also relatively quiet. Just got a Scorpion EXO 420 graphics for $179 and love the thing, just as quiet and more comfy. Also just got a HJC i90 modular ($250) as my 1st modular and it's very good but is a bit noisier with the advantage of being able to open the face which I'm finding out is a useful beneficial trade off. I doubt I will splurge on expensive lids.
I came here to say ONE thing. I have rocked an RF-1200 (discounted black from Revzilla) for 5 years. I have NEVER known which way was open or shut for the rear vent. Ever. LOL Just replaced with a Shoei NXR2 this year (the europe equiv of the RF-1400) so I could finally have an ECE rated helmet for my insurance after moving here, after four years of riding.
I bought a Shoei Neotec 2 when I bought my new motorcycle and I paid close to $1000 and I love that helmet. I needed the modular helmet for ease of wearing glasses. My biggest complaint about that helmet is because it’s a modular that chin strap is further back so when you look down with the helmet on it can use about choke you.
I've had the Neotec 2 for a number of years now, also for the reason of glasses. Love that helmet, I'll probably end up getting another one when this one reaches the end of its lifetime.
Bought a $150 modular helmet and it is the best helmet I have ever had. Of course I got my motorcycle license in 1986, here in Texas, and bought this 1st helmet in 2022. I did have an open face helmet, that someone gave me, that I used during the year it was a law for helmets but I gave it back as soon as the law went away.
The "rule" I was given was spend as much as you can on a helmet, and do not cheap out, because that is protecting 'you', not just your body. My first helmet was a flip-front Caberg. Not expensive by any means, but had a good reputation. It was noisy and the visors were (and still are) kind of crap, but in a crash, it protected your noggin, as I and others have inadvertently tested. In the UK we have a "SHARP" crash test rating system. It's a set of lab tests so not fully real-world-realistic, but does give an indication of how good a helmet is or isn't in various impacts and I have found that to be a useful reference. Spite's point is worth keeping in mind; a higher price doesn't guarantee better crash protection. It often does, but not always. Just do not buy a helmet from Amazon, especially a cheap 'Predator' helmet...
I just use a HJC $220 from Holland shipped to USA in full color choices versus $300 in USA stores limited to White and Black and pay even more money if you want any other color choice domestically. Sorry, I don't play those games as a consumer. It is also a good way to ensure most of your helmets you are buying all meet the latest ECE safety ratings because as you say we have all seen that Fortnine video. 👍
I live in the tropics and have found Shoei linings don’t last long at all. AGV last very well. Fitment depends on individual heads size and shape. Kabuto make some good lids.
I paid a lil over 300 euro for my current new helmet and it has basically all the features both these helmets have AND a built in drop down sun half-visor that's really easy to put down or up in gloves.
Something to keep in mind is $500 spent 4-5 years ago is closer to $750 these days. Add to that all the supply issues, and the difference in price really starts to make sense. In that, it's much less the improvements to the helmet and more market pressures driving it up so high.
Very happy with my Schuberth C5, very comfortable, lightweight, and quiet. Could've been the Shoei flip up helmet as well btw, but I ended up with the Schuberth.. Great helmet for long distance touring!
I just bought the E2, the adventure helmet version of the C5. The quality of the sound dampening is insane! I personally find the Schuberth to be the opposite of light weight. With 1,8kg it is quite heavy.
I will say I would of never bought a $600+ RF1400 until I started working at shop and got a hefty discount on it. Coming from an Icon Airflite and a Voss 989, you can def tell the difference after one ride. The tolerances' of the Shoei are super low. You never feel like you have to force a vent open or struggle to crack the visor. Also a lot quieter. All three are DoT and ECE rated, but the Shoei is also SNELL rated. Something that I have never and hope I never need to test. Maybe that piece of mine alone is worth 3-4x the price.
as a beginner who fell for the ruroc scam, can confirm that you should most certainly not buy an atlas. at least not anything below the 4.0 heard they are kinda okay. still too expensive, the graphics look awesome tho
I got the atlas 3 during their holiday sale for about $250. It fits nice but it’s very noisy. Other than that I can’t think of any issues but I haven’t ridden with it very much due to the weather. What else should I look out for?
@@kelidus well on my 2.0 at least i noticed that the cussioning became looser and looser with time i now have to wear a balaclava underneath otherwise it shakes all over my head. On the topic of cussioning the attachment system to helmet probably get looser once you take it all out once or twice. I now have to watch out when i take my helmet off not to take the whole cussioning with me. Lastly the waterseal around the edge of the lid started to bend over time so now everytime i ride in the rain my forehead gets wet and on the highway air blows in my eye wich causes my eye to tear as long as i ride at highway speeds. These are all my experiences dunno if you’ll encounter them on the 3.0.
@@kweenie2086 put that crap in the garbage can. If the cushioning doesn't hold your head, at the first crash the helmet is going off. And even if it doesn't, your head will bounce in it like a flipper ball, which is the opposite of what helmets are made for.
I have a ruroc atlas 4.0. Fits perfect, pinloc in the box, dot and ECE rated, shockwave bluetooth is nice, waaaaaaay less noise than the icon I was riding with. I know the company has a bad rap but I couldnt resist and honestly I love the thing. The art nerd in me saw the ultramarine blue and had to get it. Its night and day between the 3.0 and the 4.0. Also helps that their distro for the US is out of Cali now so those long ship time and customs fees are gone. The only thing I don't like about it is the chin vent switch is inside the helmet.
I went with a shoei based on quiet and fit and paid more for the blue colour. So many options out there so any help deciding is good 👍 Nice video spite.
One thing you missed is how much better the x14 is aerodynamically at speed. It is a night and day difference at speed especially when you turn your head.
I am just trying to figure out your audio setup. Right now I use a Sena 20S. This comma system came with a series of cables and extras to help you get the right setup. Anyways a 2.5mm to 3.5mm cable is one cable and the 2.5mm end plugs into the back of the Sena unit. From there I plug the 3.5mm end into my GoPro Media mod. This allows me to use the built in Sena microphone boom as the audio source for whatever I am recording giving me ultra ultra clear audio. The Sena 20S is a pretty old unit now but that ability for crystal clear audio is something id love to get with a newer unit. Just don't know what other comms system has this ability this way I don't need to be trying to wire up a lav mic inside my helmet. I can just use the microphone boom from the comms system which is waaay better for audio for your videos.
speaking of the whistle... I use a schuberth c3 pro I get a lovely whistle on it thanks to my cardo freecom 4... thankfully i'm another year or so away from needing to replace the schuberth but i dread it a bit... riding with a nice helmet means I have no choice but to go with something with at least the same quality.
Started riding with a Biltwel gringo, buffets for days, fits weird, not quiet at all. Switched to an AGV corsa and that was night and day difference but i noticed that it was mostly track oriented. fully tucked it was great but standard cruising I would get some buffetting at higher speeds on a no fairing bike. eventually migrated to the Simpson bandit. Mainly for the style but its a great all round helmet. My first bandit kept my head safe when there was a truck driving over my head. Figured Id get another bandit since its been proven tough. Currently looking at a few different brands now for my racing only helmet. Shoei, arai, agv
Whatever brand helmet you buy get the superseded model . Usually the only difference is they are last years release and basically the same but at a lot less money as they want to get rid of them.
I started with a 400ish Icon helmet forgot what it’s called, something elite maybe it’s the kinda common one that has a long visor all the way to the chin. And I replaced it with a x14. In my opinion the x14 worth every dollar. It’s light and low resist and way more comfortable and has low noise. When I occasionally wear my old Icon I just couldn’t bear it any more, how uncomfortable and loud the wind noise it has.
Shoei is always left open and right close, has been on every side sliding vent that I know. Have had Raids and now have the RF1200, and really love the shoei helmets. Arai and Shubert where very noisy in comparison.
I wear a Shoei GT-Air II. Great fit, excellent aerodynamics, pretty nice cooling, pretty quiet (I think). I do wish it was better at protecting me from wind noise, I would love to be able to ride without earplugs...
After my first Helmet, the Icon Rubicon which with my rounder head hurt my temples I bought the Shoei RF-SR and absolutely love the fit. Not as quiet as I hoped but that’s ok. Wanted the 14 but they didn’t have them in large.
Would love to see a filming equipment review. Looking at getting my first GoPro™ mad not sure if it is worth the cash. So seeing a review on your filming gear would be awesome!
I still love my RF1200, and it protects my head comfortably and quietly. Never noticed a whistle. I wish mine had graphics like yours, though. Manufacturers will charge what they feel the Market will bear, usually based on consumer research.
Unfortunately for those of us with more round oval heads the choices are way more limited and usually more expensive. I mean, some of the more retro helmets are more round (since that's the look) but otherwise your only real choice is an Arai. Which, like, $$$$$. I love my Arai. But $$$$$.
My RF-1200 has been a fantastic helmet. Coldest weather I ever saw in it was mid 30s, cold af. My dome was in agony because the airflow was so good even with the vents closed. I looked at an X-14 but a grand was a tough pill to swallow, opted for the RF-1400 and it's been excellent though the airflow doesn't feel like it's as good as the 1200. Oh well, guess I'll just have to go faster...
One thing I think you missed here is the aerodynamics at speed. I’ve noticed a difference in fit and aero with my X14 as compared to my rf-1400. If you’re going to the track or doing spirited riding you’ll notice a difference for sure. There is also more adjustability with the X14.
Hey Anna, so I am currently in the market for a new helmet and I am between the rf1400 and x14. what would you say are are pros and cons between each? A big concern for me is quietness so are they similar in terms of that? if so I would go for x14. any feedback would be appreciated, thanks!
@@ChrisB80516 the difference between the two helmets will only be found by riding in a leaning forward or tuck position. X14 's shape allows rider to tuck in an still tilt head upward.
After headbutting the pavement in my HJC rpha70st and replacing it with a Shoei RF1400, I gotta say I think I liked the HJC more. Even the graphic version was $100 cheaper than the solid color Shoei. They both fit very similarly, so I definitely DO like the fit of the Shoei. It's snug in all the right places, but roomy where I want it to be. However, the visor just doesn't feel anywhere near as good. The HJC had such nice detents where the Shoei feels stiff, yet loose and like I need to be extra gentle to keep from snapping it, which would really suck because the visors are more expensive too! And the HJC was so easy to swap between visors. Popping the Shoei visor off, I gotta wiggle it all around and once again it feels like I'm gonna break something. I'm gonna keep my Shoei for a while since I've already got it and dremeled the ear pockets out wider to fit my Cardo speakers (which was unnecessary with the HJC) and I can't return it.
I'm happy with my Bell for now. I like the face screen that dims automatically in sunlight. For my next helmet, I want that same feature, but also with a pinlock.
I recently got the X-15 in the same Marquez graphics. I was considering your x-14 but the ece 22.06, FIM, better view when tucked and quieter helmet made me pick the x-15. Good video btw. Ride safe!
Was hoping youd talk about aerodynamics between the two, and drag /wind resistance especially on a naked/sport bike and when turning your head at high speeds
I just ordered a X-Lite 803RS Ultra Carbon Hot Lap for approx. ~600€, mostly for the very good ventilation and it looks cool AF. But most people wll tell you, anything above 250€ is decent and will to the job 100%, in the end it comes down to two things. 1-Personal Preference (Looks, Fit, Cost) 2-Type of Helmet (Racing, Touring, Full Face, Modular etc)
@Lex Sir I have had the xlite 803 uc for 2 years now but my experience with it is not that great maybe because of the upright riding position, it's a great helmet don't get it wrong but it's a helmet that is 100% made for a tuck position or 3/4 tuck, you will be OK with it, but if you ride a naked bike it will buffet, and it is a little noisy,some times I hear whistles inside, but that's because of the vents, this thing flows air, lots of vents,does not have pockets for Bluetooth device, you can't use a Cardo or a sena,it's mostly a track helmet, not really that expensive bought mine for 500$,but a good helmet for racing I guess,the only thing or two that is good about it ,it's light and comfortable,I am going to try the exo r1 in carbon next,found one today for 350$ ,heard some good things about it!!
I spent the money to get a Klim Krios with the Koroyd. As an offroad adventure rider there's much to be gained from having low speed protection in addition to high speed impact. I also have the chromatic visor and a pinlock because its nice to be able to.see at all times!
My Simpson Outlaw bandit has reviews saying it has very little sound protection. I wear earplugs and am good. Not looking forward to the day it rains with it on but I do love my helmet so far.
I have an Arai long oval shaped head. I know if I buy a new Signet-X it will fit me well and be comfortable. Finding other high quality helmets with the same fit is difficult. My last one was an EXO Scorpion which fit well and had some nice features (air fit cheek pads, included a dark shield and anti fog clear shield), but wasn't quite as comfy, and the shields weren't as resistant to scratching. And noisier. I need a new helmet so I'll probably just get an Arai, but man, they're pricey.
I have a speed and strength 200 special and was always curious about the difference in a more expensive helmet. While it does fit fine and has some decent airflow, it’s cool to see there isn’t much of a difference. Aside from a few more features, I think I’ll be happy with mine until I’m ready to step up the looks. Thanks spite!
Thank you for your review of modern helmets! I still use my AGV from 1978. I think I paid $50 for it back then. It seems that new helmets are more noisy due to the ventilation. Please let me know if you have knowledge of a modern helmet that is quiet - just in case I have an accident.
As the owner of a few budget helmets, I can attest the value of a quiet helmet should not be underestimated. With AU/NZS & UN ECE standards being mandatory here, all helmets are relatively safe, but the wind noise from budget helmets are enough to annoy, even on a 20 minute ride. For rides of an hour or more it can get very taxing if you don't have a Bluetooth headset playing to mitigate the noise somewhat. I'd happily pay a premium for quiet helmet, but the problem is how much of a premium do I have to pay? It's not like you can test ride a helmet & last time I checked motorcycle accessory stores don't have a wind tunnel to try them out in.
I completely agree with the quietness of Shoei helmets. I started with an Icon GT Alliance (decent helmet at a lower price point) and upgraded to a Shoei GT Air. What a huge difference. With the Icon, it sounded like I was inside a wind tunnel! Well worth the premium for Shoei IMHO. I think I'm a Shoei fan for life although would consider Arai. Good vid!
Thanks for being the youtuber who gets the closest to the actual pronunciation of Shoei. It is indeed "show" but the last sound is a Canadian "Eh." Not that I care, I'm just commenting for the algorithms.
I have an Arai corsair X and it flows more air than any other full face helmet I've worn, problem is it still flows a ton of air with all 6 intakes and both exhaust vents closed and it sucks for when the temps are in the 40s here in NJ
I've tried and owned different helmets over the years but my long oval head is happiest in an Arai. A new Signet-X, with Arai's ProShade visor system and a PinLock 120 shield, and a new Packtalk Edge cost me over a grand. Don't regret a penny -- love the setup.
As an RF-1200 owner I actually very much looking forward to getting the RF-1400 as it passes the new and stricter ECE.06 standards, unlike the 1200, which doesn't
Especially the Expanded Polystyrene (EPS) lining that is designed to absorb the impact hardens over time due to exposure to heat, oils (mostly from your head), and exhaust gases. At a certain point it ceases to absorb, and transfers all the energy directly to your skull and brain. The general rule is a helmet shouldn't be used 7 years after production, 5 years after occasional use, or 3 years after regular use. You should also replace your helmet if there's visible structural damage on the outside of the shell (scratches from regular use are fine), or if you've been in a crash. Most helmets can survive being dropped just fine. The reason helmets need to be replaced after a crash is because your head will have indented the EPS lining and it's no longer capable of absorbing additional impacts. If you drop the helmet off the table or motorcycle, the EPS lining will generally be fine. Of course, if the outer shell is cracked after the drop, replace your helmet.
Just replaced my AGV SV-3 that I got on sale for $150 a couple of years ago with an Arai Regent-X that was $570. The Arai is way better. My experience has always been there is always a bigger difference between a cheap product and a mid grade than there is between a mid-grade and and expensive model. I believe in the law of diminishing returns.
I buy quality and what fits best so my opinion doesn't matter to everyone but shoei gt air 2 just fits amazing and is super comfortable as for noise well every helmet has noise no matter the brand so buy what works best for u weather it's 300 or 1000 it's I that has to wear it
So while the basic message isn't changed by the fact (a less expensive helmet may be just as good as a more expensive one) this 'comparison' has a number of issues with it: 1. Didn't adjust the price of the original helmet for inflation. Admittedly, I know very little about the Shoei line of helmets (just not a fan), but depending on how old the first helmet is it's possible the prices are relatively close to each other once you price them in constant dollars (adjust for inflation). 2. What is the difference in interior sound under speed? Decibels are a logarithmic scale, and a 1 db improvement in interior sound at speed can cost substantially more in design and materials cost, etc. than you might think. Hell, air tunnel time is hideously expensive, and that doesn't even consider metrology, etc. 3. What are the materials differences, if any? Does the new helmet used silver-lined anti-microbial fabrics to prevent it from smelling like multiple locker rooms compressed into your helmet after a couple years (or a summer in Texas!) of riding? Are there more points of adjustment in the interior padding, and is the interior padding more customizable in the new model? Does the new model make allowances for CT immobilization in the event of a mishap? Just comparing the way you did, Spite, definitely serves your intended purpose, but it's not really a fully baked comparison, dude. You should probably have made a disclaimer at the beginning that it was really just a subjective comparison.
I run an Icon Airform as my current motovlog helmet and regularly use it around town or shorter rides, but it's loud compared to my RF-SR. Overall you can definitely see and feel the quality difference from an entry level price point to the mid range. I have a Scorpion T510 as well and that's slightly nicer than the Icon in some ways but still not remotely competing with the Shoei. I will probably suck it up and get another Shoei or other premium helmet to replace the Icon as a motovlog setup. Or to replace the RF-SR as my "clean" option. The RF-SR doesn't seal as well as it could at my neck, so maybe I'll check out an RF1400 or Arai or something. The funny thing is, I get less airflow up under my Icon, the noise is from the sides where the air just doesn't flow as cleanly as the Shoei. In particular, on the left, the lever for the sun visor definitely adds noise. As much as I like that feature, I'm not doing another helmet with the lever there. At least not a helmet I plan to do highway speeds with. Great stuff as always, and your video and audio has definitely picked up from the earlier stuff (even post YN). Keep kickin butt. If you are headed down my way (Boerne/Bandera) drop me a note and maybe we can meet up.
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Have you seen the Harley overglide ?
I need a BIG 3xl and you can never find a properly rated one 😞
Fellow RF-1200 owner... Can confirm, I have no idea how the rear vent settings work. Great helmet, especially in cooler temperatures when the vents are closed and wind noise is minimal.
RF-1200 owner here aswell, which way does it open SHOEI?!?!?!?!,
VINDICATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!
I just remember it’s like a door. Left open
I, as well, never knew the answer until I eventually replaced the RF 1200 many years later. I just assumed it’s open the same way the front vent (clearly visible opening) is open which is switching it to the right?😂
Why did you just stick something small in to the slot and see which way it goes in further? That will tell you if its open or not.
As a cycle gear employee and a x-14 rider I can tell you a bit more about the rf-1200 vs x-14, when the rf-1200 was around it was one of the best and most populer helmets on the market, it was quit, safe and good quality, (all shoei helmets are hand made in Japan, also a reflection on the price!) the rf-1200 and x-14 are similar but definitely very different, X-14 pads are fully adjustable on the inside they are made out 9-12 components to make a perfect fit, it is also adjustable for track meaning you can position the pad in a way to get the aero dynamics from the helmet when tucked in, something you cannot do with any other helmet in shoeis line up. (X-14 was tested in a wind tunnel ) the bottom vent on x-14 is not chin vent it is actually a cheek pad vent, refer to a video by Cycle Gear's sister company Revzilla. Getting a $300 helmet is not the same as getting a $500 - $1000 helmet, when purchasing an $1000 helmet you will be paying in most cases for features, safety and quality. PS: When purchasing a helmet please get properly fitted for one, fit is very important in a helmet if you were to go down. (In the rf-1200, when holding the helmet, back facing towards your self: to the right vent is closed middle is open.)
I went down hard on a AGV K1 that costed me 150USD and shit saved my head. Didnt even lose my glasses. Good helmet has a lot of variables besides the asking price. imo.
Spite, if you want to know the difference between the two helmets get on a ZX10 and go in full tuck.
The X14's shape allows you lean forward and still tilt your head back. The 1200 will slam into the back of your neck and roll the helmet forward. You're not going to find the difference on that bike. Keep up the great work!
Exactly. The RF1200, 1100 and 1000 helmets are great but very difficult to see ahead in a full tuck. The X14 visor extends higher on the forehead as well for a decent view.
Recently replaced my Sedici Strada Gen 1 with an RF-1400, and good lord! The quietness that Spite talks about is spot on, but also the lack of wind buffeting. Moving my head around at freeway speeds in the RF feels the same as at a stoplight in regards to strain on my neck, compared to the Sedici which felt like it wanted to rip my face off. Difference may be small from $500-$1000 helmets, but there’s a HUGE difference going from a $150-$500 helmet.
The new 1400 slips thru the air- especially noticeable when riding in rain, hit the right spot and the tain tuns off the visor.
Sedichi is a brand that I just hate. It is safe, but I feel like it's flimsy
Sedici is cycle gears brand, it is trash.
@@jordansimon6070 10-4. Cheap be cheap
I have the Shoei RF 1400 with the transition visor (took 10 months on a waiting list to get the visor but it's awesome). Could not ask for more. Worth every penny!.....and oh yah.... Spite Rules!
I’m rocking the same helmet with the stock clear visor and love it.
Same setup! I love it. Just walked in to a dealer and got it same day though.
Maybe look into that with the transition visor. I am pretty sure I damaged my eyes by working a yard with transition glasses. They were not UV protected, so my pupils let in UV because they did not shrink as they should in bright light. It might be natural degeneration but the degradation in my vision was only accelerated over that period. It was steady before and steady after. I view it like pain killers on a bad back, you don't feel the pain but you are still doing more damage.
I have both in medium and they wear totally different. These two helmets do not compare when it comes to head shape. I rarely wear the NXR (RF-1200) and almost always wear the X-Spirit III (X-Fourteen).
What I love about the X-Spirit III (X-Fourteen):
1. The fit. It fits my head way better.
2. It has better ventilation. You can even have all vents open in the rain, and you won't be waterboarded.
3. It's way more stable than the NXR (RF-1200).
4. It has more room in front of the chin.
5. It's quiet.
Also, this video was released 3 days ago? When was it shot? The X-Spirit III was replaced by the X-SPR Pro, which is now FIM Homologated.
For those wondering: DOT < SNELL < ECE < FIM
DOT: A safety standard that needs to be tested by the manufacturer. Most helmets that carry the DOT sticker don't conform to the requirements, and even if they do, those requirements are so stupidly lacking that they provide little protection from injury.
SNELL: A real safety standard developed in the US to protect race car drivers. It's primarily focused on penetration resistance which is important in car racing, but not as important for motorcyclists. Racing drivers are in a cage and restrained by seatbelts. Impact absorption is not the priority. For motorcyclists it must be because their heads will impact the road or obstacles in a crash.
ECE: The European standard for motorcycle helmets. Their focus is on impact absorption and shell integrity, as wel as rotational force on the spine. This was the highest safety standard until...
FIM: The Motorcycle division of the FIA. They take the ECE standards and dial them up to 11. These standards add high speed impact requirements to the ECE standards as well as crush resistance. Very few helmets meet the FIM requirements. Anything other than a full face helmet will not be tested by FIM because they are an automatic fail.
Fellow X-Fourteen here… it’s a great helmet. My favorite that I have ever owned. Once wore in, the comfort can’t be beat. As stated, it’s also the quietest! Hands down!
I recently switched from a Bell Brooser to an Arai Concept X, mainly because one of my local shops had a massive sale and I got a good price on it. I could not believe the night and day difference between the two. So much quieter, so much less buffeting in the Arai, and so much easier to keep the external visa clean than in the Brooser with its very cool looking fighter pilot style visor. The styling on the Bell definitely had an impact on some performance, so even though I really like the Bell, the Arai just feels far more premium. This is worth the difference to me.
OK. A tip. Spite said the helmets were DOT and Snell rated. If you pull back the strap padding on the lashing side you will find the ECE rating sown onto the long strap. It is actually part of the ECE standard that it be sown onto that strap. The DOT and Snell rating is only a US thing. Even Australia accepts that an ECE rating is good enough internationally as a standard and doesn't require internal testing to confirm it.
SHOEI Neotec II here. Also a pricey lid, also very quiet and comfortable. Helmets are a little like running shoes in that they're made from different "lasts" or patterns. Shoes are made to fit different feet, helmets are made to fit different heads. So if a new buyer is thinking of what to get, I'd suggest you measure your noggin, do your research, and try on some helmets from different brands to get a feel for what works. The answer won't always boil down to the thousand-dollar lid.
Hi, i use Shoei NXR (EU version of RF1200) for the past 12+ months (20.000km/12500 miles) on naked bike (Kawasaki Z900). Before i used HJC RPHA10+ for 7 years and was very pleased with it. Shoei have better chin vent, but, HJC move much more air on top of the head. Shoei have ruffer interior (cheekpads), but not a problem, HJC just uses smoother fabric. I loved my HJC, but RPHA11 changed sizes and L size i usualy wear is to small for me and XL is far too large (different shell between L and XL). Shoei NXR (RF1200) was perfect in L size for me (i boght it when NXR2/RF1400 was just released and i got great deal) and its a good helmet. Both Shoei and HJC are not loud (would not defined them as quiet), both are aerodynimic enough so buffeting is nonexistent (on naked bike), both (size L) are tight but comfort fit for my 59.3cm circumference head (medium oval with tendency to round). All in all, Shoei NXR/RF1200 is a great helmet, especially for 250 euros i paid for it. Lack of inner dark visor is a plus for me: i much more prefer fully tinted visor (i ride only in daytime), HJC gives that aditional visor with the helmet for free, for Shoei i bought it separately
I spent $1200 on my Shoei X 15 and after riding for 35 years it’s the best helmet I’ve ever owned and worth every penny it is so aerodynamic that you literally feel zero wind on your head when you’re doing 140 miles an hour. You can ride at 100 miles an hour for eight hours straight withoutfeeling a single strain in your neck at all because it is so aerodynamic. The X 15 was designed in Shoeis wind tunnel, and it is made for high speed motorcycle racing. It is silent zero noise, perfectly quiet so smooth like butter through the air no matter how much turbulence your windscreen might make the helmet will be as smooth as glass.
Hell yes! Bought my x-14 2 years ago! Glad you did as well, Spite
Would love to see more reviews of sub-$500 helmets for those of us who can't afford or don't care about helmets with dazzling graphics.
Kov
tbf its usually not about the graphics. The price point will get you comfort and less noise. Though going north of 600 is a bit much for any helmet.
If you're looking for a decent quality option, my hand goes to LS2, their helmets are not bad whatsoever for the price point. I got an LS2 Assault as my first and it came with pinlock and internal visor, and decent ventilation. A bit noisy but, that's to be expected with more affordable options. I know plenty of buddies still rockin em
I had a few helmets over the years mainly HJC (Cl-15), Shark (Race R & D-Skwal 2.2), AGV(corsa & Compact st) & Shoei (x-14).
Like what was mentioned in the video, the higher up the price range, the helmet is quieter & generally plushier cushions.
While you could bring approved full face helmets to the track, helmets like Agv corsa / pista, x14 and the likes are stable at high speeds and I think that’s why they demand more money.
For the street, a mid price helmet can do the job well. Main thing get one that fits.
I think HJC provides the most value for money helmets, shoei quietest and AGV coolest. Haven’t try other brands yet.
I have bad experience with both my Shark helmets.
We used to say.. ‘10 dollar head, 10 dollar helmet” 😂😂
I spent $1200 on my Shoei X 15 and after writing for 35 years it’s the best helmet I’ve ever owned and worth every penny it is so aerodynamic that you literally feel zero wind on your head when you’re doing 140 miles an hour. You can ride at 100 miles an hour for eight hours straight withoutfeeling a single strain in your neck at all because it is so aerodynamic.
I think it's always good and fun to review gear to get more people to value their safety. Also great for getting sponsors.
When I bought my gear I researched a shit ton of stuff and came to conclusion a 500+ helmet usually made of fiberglass have better safety then ones made of Polycarbonat.
But both helmets are still very safe.
You pay for name, options/features within or on the helmet, shape and graphics.
Then it's becomes a matter of which you like most, like you said.
I ride with an HJC C70 which is known to be a really safe helmet, well equipped but a bit noisy. I ride with ear protection in so won't really notice that much until I get a more quiet helmet at some point in the future and at that point I probably be like oh wauw how could I ride with the other helmet lol.
Correction Spite: RF-1400 still has rear vent. Gone is the option to close the rear vent.
You X-14 may not have the rear vent.
On the RF -1400, by not being able to close the rear vent air is “sucked up” behind the chin curtain and swirls in front of your nose before being evacuated by the rear vent…sucks when it is under 50ish degrees.
Best cold weather helmet is a Snell approved snowmobile helmet. Soooo quiet! I noticed very little difference between the HJC $150 snowmobile helmet and my new RG-1400.
I'm at 11 months and 6200 miles with my Rf-1400 and I think I've spoiled myself for cheaper helmets in the future. It's so comfortable and quiet, and warm enough for some pretty cold riding.
on the RF -1200 rear vent. if looking directly at the back of the helmet with the visor facing forward, the left position is the open vent position, (tabs should be centered if you look at the vent)
Good video and good review. I could never spend $1,000 on a helmet. I currently have a slightly more than $200 HJC and it serves me well. When I do replace it, I might just get a similar one, one size larger because for some reason this one is getting a little too snug.
Thanks Spite.
Would recommend the Rohan 90s had a HJC i110 and upgraded. The helmet is much better and cuts down on wind noise a ton.
I'm on my third Rpha 10 Plus. Lightweight, reasonable wind noise and good price!
I usually wouldnt but I am interested in the Forcite helmet. Has a camera built into the chinbar recording at 1080/60, 40mm HK speakers built in, has basic nav/warning signals in the form of lights so they arent a distraction as a popup, and if you get into an accident I believe if you can send in the working camera portion they'll deduct that from a new helmet. ECE rated and all that too of course. Definitely one to keep an eye on.
@@landonfolken03 This takes “plan for the crash” to another level. Man wants a sale on the next helmet😂
Have you used a $1000 helmet?
For someone that rides at high speeds (130+), this helmet has stood out in a few areas: aerodynamics and sound. I had an AGV K6 before this and it was pretty loud and the wind threw my head all over the place. With the X14, the wind feels like it goes around the helmet much better and doesn’t throw my head around. Also the sound levels are considerably better on the X14. One more thing, my head doesn’t get nearly as hot in 90F+ days with the X14. Would definitely buy it again if something happened to my current one.
The videos where you do something are much more interesting to me than the ones where you talk about something while doing something else. This video is a good one.
I enjoy these little comparison reviews. Kind of like what Fortnine USED to do. now Fortnine and really high production but on very specific situations in a narrative that will almost never exist, but they're fun to watch. They used to do comparisons like understanding FIM/ECE/SNELL/ETC. Or comparing Cheap vs Expensive, Amazon gear vs actual gear. Maybe there are existing videos of those but those were 5 years ago. It doesn't look like they're going to ever update those videos.
They're production was really high, and I know you're just one guy, so you have to do the best at your pace. But I enjoy these.
I was looking at the RF but I ultimately went with a HJC that is 1/3 the cost and used the money saved to buy a Cardo. At least a helmet that has more than basic DOT garbage rating.
Been using a RPHA11 for a year now. got it for 285 brand new (old stock) and love it so far. came with dark/light shield and pinlock. lighter than the shoei. The pads and chin curtain also look more plush and higher quality than the shoei, with leather trim and stitching as opposed to only mesh. The vents work spectacular and cutouts for BT systems work great.
I tried a lot of helmets before I settled on an Arai, simply because it seems to be the only one to fit my huge round head. Not many helmets designed for round heads, always putting pressure and giving me headaches an hour into riding. So to me it was worth it. Doesn't really look cool though, and not very noise isolating, but comfort > everything else.
Same here, I tried on both the x14 and 1400 from Shoei and there was a pressure point at the back. Arai, perfect fit. Still waiting for my Corsair X Kiyonari in black white n gold, should be here next month.
I settled on an Arai Signet Q after spending two hours trying on helmets at the local cycle shop. I have a long-oval shaped head, *really* hard to fit. It fit like they used my head for the molds. After 7 years, I am still wearing it because it's replacement doesn't quite fit as well.
Pre-Covid, I was a long distance biker. 16 to 20 hour days weren't unusual. Helmet fit is *really* important to me, because in the summers, I lived in the helmet.
Ive got an Arai shaped head as well. Nothing else cheaper fits. They are hand made in Japan and the quality is outstanding.
Hello fellow round head. I know how it feels to be so limited on options.
Try the Shoei GT-Air II. That's a helmet designed for a round head. Schuberth also has helmets that accommodate for wider head shapes.
Finally an honest review. I hate when reviewers compare $1000 lids with AliExpress $60 lids... we all know the AliExpress ones are garbage, but more money doesn't equal more safety. My helmet was $400 and I love it!
If spending some time on the track the X14 has another advantage with field of view. When tucked in with your head close to the tank, the visor angle is more upward giving more view.
I’ve been wearing Shoei helmets for years on the street and on the track. My advice-buy a helmet that fits and has whatever certs you want/need. More money generally gets you less weight, more options and less noise, but doesn’t necessarily make you safer…
The extra certs cost money which makes the helmets more expensive.
@@ThaBootyBandit yeah but but you don't need to spend $1000 to get all your certs.
@@ThaBootyBandit worth the expense… you only have one head/brain…get off once at speed and you will have a great appreciation for excellent gear
@@BaldKiwi117 Your still paying extra for the certs because of how expensive it is to get them for the helmets.
@@murraehaynes3182 Yea i know. Ive used enough cheap helmets in my lifetime. I dont get anything thats just DOT. Snell at the MINIMUM.
Absolutely would love to see more reviews on gear. Jackets, boots, gloves, also would to see a reviews on storage on bike. Cheers
Have a HJC RPHA 90s. Great helmet it’s modular, cut down a ton on wind noise, tons of vents. Pin lock with anti-fog insert. I paid a little under 500 and compared to my HJC i110 is well worth the money.
I have an5 year old Shoei Quest and is still very good and also relatively quiet. Just got a Scorpion EXO 420 graphics for $179 and love the thing, just as quiet and more comfy. Also just got a HJC i90 modular ($250) as my 1st modular and it's very good but is a bit noisier with the advantage of being able to open the face which I'm finding out is a useful beneficial trade off. I doubt I will splurge on expensive lids.
I came here to say ONE thing. I have rocked an RF-1200 (discounted black from Revzilla) for 5 years. I have NEVER known which way was open or shut for the rear vent. Ever. LOL
Just replaced with a Shoei NXR2 this year (the europe equiv of the RF-1400) so I could finally have an ECE rated helmet for my insurance after moving here, after four years of riding.
I bought a Shoei Neotec 2 when I bought my new motorcycle and I paid close to $1000 and I love that helmet. I needed the modular helmet for ease of wearing glasses. My biggest complaint about that helmet is because it’s a modular that chin strap is further back so when you look down with the helmet on it can use about choke you.
I've had the Neotec 2 for a number of years now, also for the reason of glasses. Love that helmet, I'll probably end up getting another one when this one reaches the end of its lifetime.
It’s a worlds difference from my first cheap helmet for sure. Very happy I got it
Bought a $150 modular helmet and it is the best helmet I have ever had. Of course I got my motorcycle license in 1986, here in Texas, and bought this 1st helmet in 2022. I did have an open face helmet, that someone gave me, that I used during the year it was a law for helmets but I gave it back as soon as the law went away.
The "rule" I was given was spend as much as you can on a helmet, and do not cheap out, because that is protecting 'you', not just your body. My first helmet was a flip-front Caberg. Not expensive by any means, but had a good reputation. It was noisy and the visors were (and still are) kind of crap, but in a crash, it protected your noggin, as I and others have inadvertently tested.
In the UK we have a "SHARP" crash test rating system. It's a set of lab tests so not fully real-world-realistic, but does give an indication of how good a helmet is or isn't in various impacts and I have found that to be a useful reference.
Spite's point is worth keeping in mind; a higher price doesn't guarantee better crash protection. It often does, but not always. Just do not buy a helmet from Amazon, especially a cheap 'Predator' helmet...
I just use a HJC $220 from Holland shipped to USA in full color choices versus $300 in USA stores limited to White and Black and pay even more money if you want any other color choice domestically. Sorry, I don't play those games as a consumer. It is also a good way to ensure most of your helmets you are buying all meet the latest ECE safety ratings because as you say we have all seen that Fortnine video. 👍
I live in the tropics and have found Shoei linings don’t last long at all.
AGV last very well.
Fitment depends on individual heads size and shape.
Kabuto make some good lids.
Loved the shots facing back at you using that 360 camera. Very nice.
I paid a lil over 300 euro for my current new helmet and it has basically all the features both these helmets have AND a built in drop down sun half-visor that's really easy to put down or up in gloves.
Something to keep in mind is $500 spent 4-5 years ago is closer to $750 these days. Add to that all the supply issues, and the difference in price really starts to make sense. In that, it's much less the improvements to the helmet and more market pressures driving it up so high.
Very happy with my Schuberth C5, very comfortable, lightweight, and quiet. Could've been the Shoei flip up helmet as well btw, but I ended up with the Schuberth.. Great helmet for long distance touring!
I just bought the E2, the adventure helmet version of the C5. The quality of the sound dampening is insane! I personally find the Schuberth to be the opposite of light weight. With 1,8kg it is quite heavy.
Ooooh C5 gang! I got one too and it feels amazing! Plus the intercom device is 🔥
I will say I would of never bought a $600+ RF1400 until I started working at shop and got a hefty discount on it. Coming from an Icon Airflite and a Voss 989, you can def tell the difference after one ride. The tolerances' of the Shoei are super low. You never feel like you have to force a vent open or struggle to crack the visor. Also a lot quieter. All three are DoT and ECE rated, but the Shoei is also SNELL rated. Something that I have never and hope I never need to test. Maybe that piece of mine alone is worth 3-4x the price.
Ultimately I came to the same conclusion, even across brands! Great breakdown Spite. Just don’t buy a Ruroc… 😉😉😉
as a beginner who fell for the ruroc scam, can confirm that you should most certainly not buy an atlas. at least not anything below the 4.0 heard they are kinda okay. still too expensive, the graphics look awesome tho
I got the atlas 3 during their holiday sale for about $250. It fits nice but it’s very noisy. Other than that I can’t think of any issues but I haven’t ridden with it very much due to the weather. What else should I look out for?
@@kelidus well on my 2.0 at least i noticed that the cussioning became looser and looser with time i now have to wear a balaclava underneath otherwise it shakes all over my head. On the topic of cussioning the attachment system to helmet probably get looser once you take it all out once or twice. I now have to watch out when i take my helmet off not to take the whole cussioning with me. Lastly the waterseal around the edge of the lid started to bend over time so now everytime i ride in the rain my forehead gets wet and on the highway air blows in my eye wich causes my eye to tear as long as i ride at highway speeds. These are all my experiences dunno if you’ll encounter them on the 3.0.
@@kweenie2086 put that crap in the garbage can. If the cushioning doesn't hold your head, at the first crash the helmet is going off. And even if it doesn't, your head will bounce in it like a flipper ball, which is the opposite of what helmets are made for.
I have a ruroc atlas 4.0. Fits perfect, pinloc in the box, dot and ECE rated, shockwave bluetooth is nice, waaaaaaay less noise than the icon I was riding with. I know the company has a bad rap but I couldnt resist and honestly I love the thing. The art nerd in me saw the ultramarine blue and had to get it. Its night and day between the 3.0 and the 4.0. Also helps that their distro for the US is out of Cali now so those long ship time and customs fees are gone. The only thing I don't like about it is the chin vent switch is inside the helmet.
I went with a shoei based on quiet and fit and paid more for the blue colour.
So many options out there so any help deciding is good 👍
Nice video spite.
One thing you missed is how much better the x14 is aerodynamically at speed. It is a night and day difference at speed especially when you turn your head.
I am just trying to figure out your audio setup.
Right now I use a Sena 20S. This comma system came with a series of cables and extras to help you get the right setup.
Anyways a 2.5mm to 3.5mm cable is one cable and the 2.5mm end plugs into the back of the Sena unit. From there I plug the 3.5mm end into my GoPro Media mod. This allows me to use the built in Sena microphone boom as the audio source for whatever I am recording giving me ultra ultra clear audio.
The Sena 20S is a pretty old unit now but that ability for crystal clear audio is something id love to get with a newer unit. Just don't know what other comms system has this ability this way I don't need to be trying to wire up a lav mic inside my helmet. I can just use the microphone boom from the comms system which is waaay better for audio for your videos.
speaking of the whistle... I use a schuberth c3 pro I get a lovely whistle on it thanks to my cardo freecom 4...
thankfully i'm another year or so away from needing to replace the schuberth but i dread it a bit... riding with a nice helmet means I have no choice but to go with something with at least the same quality.
Perfect timing as I’m shopping for a helmet.
Would love to see a $300, $500, $700 favorite helmets video.
Started riding with a Biltwel gringo, buffets for days, fits weird, not quiet at all. Switched to an AGV corsa and that was night and day difference but i noticed that it was mostly track oriented. fully tucked it was great but standard cruising I would get some buffetting at higher speeds on a no fairing bike. eventually migrated to the Simpson bandit. Mainly for the style but its a great all round helmet. My first bandit kept my head safe when there was a truck driving over my head. Figured Id get another bandit since its been proven tough. Currently looking at a few different brands now for my racing only helmet. Shoei, arai, agv
Whatever brand helmet you buy get the superseded model . Usually the only difference is they are last years release and basically the same but at a lot less money as they want to get rid of them.
I do this too. Got at C3 Pro complete with fitted pinlock for $250 off regular price. And received full 5 year warranty from Schuberth
I started with a 400ish Icon helmet forgot what it’s called, something elite maybe it’s the kinda common one that has a long visor all the way to the chin. And I replaced it with a x14. In my opinion the x14 worth every dollar. It’s light and low resist and way more comfortable and has low noise. When I occasionally wear my old Icon I just couldn’t bear it any more, how uncomfortable and loud the wind noise it has.
Shoei is always left open and right close, has been on every side sliding vent that I know. Have had Raids and now have the RF1200, and really love the shoei helmets. Arai and Shubert where very noisy in comparison.
I wear a Shoei GT-Air II. Great fit, excellent aerodynamics, pretty nice cooling, pretty quiet (I think).
I do wish it was better at protecting me from wind noise, I would love to be able to ride without earplugs...
After my first Helmet, the Icon Rubicon which with my rounder head hurt my temples I bought the Shoei RF-SR and absolutely love the fit. Not as quiet as I hoped but that’s ok. Wanted the 14 but they didn’t have them in large.
Would love to see a filming equipment review. Looking at getting my first GoPro™ mad not sure if it is worth the cash. So seeing a review on your filming gear would be awesome!
I still love my RF1200, and it protects my head comfortably and quietly. Never noticed a whistle. I wish mine had graphics like yours, though. Manufacturers will charge what they feel the Market will bear, usually based on consumer research.
Unfortunately for those of us with more round oval heads the choices are way more limited and usually more expensive. I mean, some of the more retro helmets are more round (since that's the look) but otherwise your only real choice is an Arai.
Which, like, $$$$$. I love my Arai. But $$$$$.
My RF-1200 has been a fantastic helmet. Coldest weather I ever saw in it was mid 30s, cold af. My dome was in agony because the airflow was so good even with the vents closed. I looked at an X-14 but a grand was a tough pill to swallow, opted for the RF-1400 and it's been excellent though the airflow doesn't feel like it's as good as the 1200. Oh well, guess I'll just have to go faster...
Like this comparison format. Well done.
One thing I think you missed here is the aerodynamics at speed. I’ve noticed a difference in fit and aero with my X14 as compared to my rf-1400. If you’re going to the track or doing spirited riding you’ll notice a difference for sure. There is also more adjustability with the X14.
Hey Anna, so I am currently in the market for a new helmet and I am between the rf1400 and x14. what would you say are are pros and cons between each? A big concern for me is quietness so are they similar in terms of that? if so I would go for x14. any feedback would be appreciated, thanks!
@@ChrisB80516 the difference between the two helmets will only be found by riding in a leaning forward or tuck position. X14 's shape allows rider to tuck in an still tilt head upward.
@@dirttoysdotcom Okay, great to know. In that case, I think the x14 is the way to go. Thanks Randall!
I agree! It’s also more stable at speed with a slightly more race fit
I could never go to a full face helmet for everyday use after riding with my modular helmet. I just love being able to pop it up when I want to.
Yeah that's a super convenient feature.
After headbutting the pavement in my HJC rpha70st and replacing it with a Shoei RF1400, I gotta say I think I liked the HJC more. Even the graphic version was $100 cheaper than the solid color Shoei.
They both fit very similarly, so I definitely DO like the fit of the Shoei. It's snug in all the right places, but roomy where I want it to be. However, the visor just doesn't feel anywhere near as good. The HJC had such nice detents where the Shoei feels stiff, yet loose and like I need to be extra gentle to keep from snapping it, which would really suck because the visors are more expensive too! And the HJC was so easy to swap between visors. Popping the Shoei visor off, I gotta wiggle it all around and once again it feels like I'm gonna break something.
I'm gonna keep my Shoei for a while since I've already got it and dremeled the ear pockets out wider to fit my Cardo speakers (which was unnecessary with the HJC) and I can't return it.
I'm happy with my Bell for now. I like the face screen that dims automatically in sunlight. For my next helmet, I want that same feature, but also with a pinlock.
You can install pin-lock easily.
Shoei has that shield for their helmets too...
@Waldo I meant it for Bell. Hiking with Chris mentioned above, his Bell doesn't have Pinlock. I referred to that.
I recently got the X-15 in the same Marquez graphics. I was considering your x-14 but the ece 22.06, FIM, better view when tucked and quieter helmet made me pick the x-15. Good video btw. Ride safe!
Scorpion Carbon Air R1! My first helmet and I think I'll just buy another of the same when the time comes.
Was hoping youd talk about aerodynamics between the two, and drag /wind resistance especially on a naked/sport bike and when turning your head at high speeds
I just ordered a X-Lite 803RS Ultra Carbon Hot Lap for approx. ~600€, mostly for the very good ventilation and it looks cool AF.
But most people wll tell you, anything above 250€ is decent and will to the job 100%, in the end it comes down to two things.
1-Personal Preference (Looks, Fit, Cost)
2-Type of Helmet (Racing, Touring, Full Face, Modular etc)
@Lex Sir I have had the xlite 803 uc for 2 years now but my experience with it is not that great maybe because of the upright riding position, it's a great helmet don't get it wrong but it's a helmet that is 100% made for a tuck position or 3/4 tuck, you will be OK with it, but if you ride a naked bike it will buffet, and it is a little noisy,some times I hear whistles inside, but that's because of the vents, this thing flows air, lots of vents,does not have pockets for Bluetooth device, you can't use a Cardo or a sena,it's mostly a track helmet, not really that expensive bought mine for 500$,but a good helmet for racing I guess,the only thing or two that is good about it ,it's light and comfortable,I am going to try the exo r1 in carbon next,found one today for 350$ ,heard some good things about it!!
I spent the money to get a Klim Krios with the Koroyd. As an offroad adventure rider there's much to be gained from having low speed protection in addition to high speed impact. I also have the chromatic visor and a pinlock because its nice to be able to.see at all times!
All Shoei Helmets fit beautifully I've tried. And are really comfy.
My Simpson Outlaw bandit has reviews saying it has very little sound protection. I wear earplugs and am good. Not looking forward to the day it rains with it on but I do love my helmet so far.
My next helmet will be a shoei again. I like the designs and they have that personal fit. I probably go for the nxr2 they are around 600 euro's.
I have an Arai long oval shaped head. I know if I buy a new Signet-X it will fit me well and be comfortable. Finding other high quality helmets with the same fit is difficult. My last one was an EXO Scorpion which fit well and had some nice features (air fit cheek pads, included a dark shield and anti fog clear shield), but wasn't quite as comfy, and the shields weren't as resistant to scratching. And noisier. I need a new helmet so I'll probably just get an Arai, but man, they're pricey.
I'm in the same boat. With a long oval head shape, the Arai Signet X fits perfectly. No complaints...except the price. Damn!
I have a speed and strength 200 special and was always curious about the difference in a more expensive helmet. While it does fit fine and has some decent airflow, it’s cool to see there isn’t much of a difference. Aside from a few more features, I think I’ll be happy with mine until I’m ready to step up the looks. Thanks spite!
Good time to nab a x14 for cheap, since a lot of places are clearing out stock to prepare for the x15
Can't believe your not at 1 million yest videos are amazing.
Thank you for your review of modern helmets! I still use my AGV from 1978. I think I paid $50 for it back then. It seems that new helmets are more noisy due to the ventilation. Please let me know if you have knowledge of a modern helmet that is quiet - just in case I have an accident.
As the owner of a few budget helmets, I can attest the value of a quiet helmet should not be underestimated. With AU/NZS & UN ECE standards being mandatory here, all helmets are relatively safe, but the wind noise from budget helmets are enough to annoy, even on a 20 minute ride. For rides of an hour or more it can get very taxing if you don't have a Bluetooth headset playing to mitigate the noise somewhat. I'd happily pay a premium for quiet helmet, but the problem is how much of a premium do I have to pay? It's not like you can test ride a helmet & last time I checked motorcycle accessory stores don't have a wind tunnel to try them out in.
I completely agree with the quietness of Shoei helmets. I started with an Icon GT Alliance (decent helmet at a lower price point) and upgraded to a Shoei GT Air. What a huge difference. With the Icon, it sounded like I was inside a wind tunnel! Well worth the premium for Shoei IMHO. I think I'm a Shoei fan for life although would consider Arai. Good vid!
Love my GT Air II. Probably a Shoei fan for life.
Haha I can confirm the moment you buy a Shoei you dont want a different helmet.
Thank you for this review.
It's nice to have real world reviews on things that the salesman will never tell you the truth about.
Always a pleasure to watch your videos
Thanks Spite, always enjoy what you do and how you do it.
Bonus points for mentioning Fortnine!
Helmets are a personal thing, most important is to have one that fits you, and is fit for purpose.
Spite,
I own both the rf-1400 and a x14, the rf-1400 is considerably much more quiet.
For everyday riding, go RF-1400.
Thanks for being the youtuber who gets the closest to the actual pronunciation of Shoei. It is indeed "show" but the last sound is a Canadian "Eh."
Not that I care, I'm just commenting for the algorithms.
I have an Arai corsair X and it flows more air than any other full face helmet I've worn, problem is it still flows a ton of air with all 6 intakes and both exhaust vents closed and it sucks for when the temps are in the 40s here in NJ
I've tried and owned different helmets over the years but my long oval head is happiest in an Arai. A new Signet-X, with Arai's ProShade visor system and a PinLock 120 shield, and a new Packtalk Edge cost me over a grand. Don't regret a penny -- love the setup.
Me, too. Alas, unlike the Arai Signet Q, the Signet X doesn't quite fit as well.
As an RF-1200 owner I actually very much looking forward to getting the RF-1400 as it passes the new and stricter ECE.06 standards, unlike the 1200, which doesn't
A good recommendation is to replace your helmet every 3-5 years. The glues and materials break down over time essentially exposed to UV.
Especially the Expanded Polystyrene (EPS) lining that is designed to absorb the impact hardens over time due to exposure to heat, oils (mostly from your head), and exhaust gases. At a certain point it ceases to absorb, and transfers all the energy directly to your skull and brain.
The general rule is a helmet shouldn't be used 7 years after production, 5 years after occasional use, or 3 years after regular use.
You should also replace your helmet if there's visible structural damage on the outside of the shell (scratches from regular use are fine), or if you've been in a crash. Most helmets can survive being dropped just fine. The reason helmets need to be replaced after a crash is because your head will have indented the EPS lining and it's no longer capable of absorbing additional impacts. If you drop the helmet off the table or motorcycle, the EPS lining will generally be fine. Of course, if the outer shell is cracked after the drop, replace your helmet.
Just replaced my AGV SV-3 that I got on sale for $150 a couple of years ago with an Arai Regent-X that was $570. The Arai is way better. My experience has always been there is always a bigger difference between a cheap product and a mid grade than there is between a mid-grade and and expensive model. I believe in the law of diminishing returns.
I really like the review and hope to see more reviews in the future.
I went from a Bell Qualifier to a Shoei RF 1400 last season. Night and day...thats all i have to say about that. Every penny difference was worth it.
I buy quality and what fits best so my opinion doesn't matter to everyone but shoei gt air 2 just fits amazing and is super comfortable as for noise well every helmet has noise no matter the brand so buy what works best for u weather it's 300 or 1000 it's I that has to wear it
So while the basic message isn't changed by the fact (a less expensive helmet may be just as good as a more expensive one) this 'comparison' has a number of issues with it:
1. Didn't adjust the price of the original helmet for inflation. Admittedly, I know very little about the Shoei line of helmets (just not a fan), but depending on how old the first helmet is it's possible the prices are relatively close to each other once you price them in constant dollars (adjust for inflation).
2. What is the difference in interior sound under speed? Decibels are a logarithmic scale, and a 1 db improvement in interior sound at speed can cost substantially more in design and materials cost, etc. than you might think. Hell, air tunnel time is hideously expensive, and that doesn't even consider metrology, etc.
3. What are the materials differences, if any? Does the new helmet used silver-lined anti-microbial fabrics to prevent it from smelling like multiple locker rooms compressed into your helmet after a couple years (or a summer in Texas!) of riding? Are there more points of adjustment in the interior padding, and is the interior padding more customizable in the new model? Does the new model make allowances for CT immobilization in the event of a mishap?
Just comparing the way you did, Spite, definitely serves your intended purpose, but it's not really a fully baked comparison, dude. You should probably have made a disclaimer at the beginning that it was really just a subjective comparison.
Bought a Scorpion EXO R420 for $160 on Amazon... returned it a few weeks later and spent $500ish on a ARAI Regent X and have NO REGRETS!
I run an Icon Airform as my current motovlog helmet and regularly use it around town or shorter rides, but it's loud compared to my RF-SR. Overall you can definitely see and feel the quality difference from an entry level price point to the mid range. I have a Scorpion T510 as well and that's slightly nicer than the Icon in some ways but still not remotely competing with the Shoei. I will probably suck it up and get another Shoei or other premium helmet to replace the Icon as a motovlog setup. Or to replace the RF-SR as my "clean" option. The RF-SR doesn't seal as well as it could at my neck, so maybe I'll check out an RF1400 or Arai or something.
The funny thing is, I get less airflow up under my Icon, the noise is from the sides where the air just doesn't flow as cleanly as the Shoei. In particular, on the left, the lever for the sun visor definitely adds noise. As much as I like that feature, I'm not doing another helmet with the lever there. At least not a helmet I plan to do highway speeds with.
Great stuff as always, and your video and audio has definitely picked up from the earlier stuff (even post YN). Keep kickin butt. If you are headed down my way (Boerne/Bandera) drop me a note and maybe we can meet up.
I got the GT air 2 but really I wanted to buy the RX 1200 because of you and yeah sure I´m happy bit it could be quiter