Honestly Tim slipping in an incel line (you all want to be taken seriously) really really confirms to me that he had some "my woman should do things the way I want them" type thoughts
Absolutely. And him being so angry that she took a nap---seems like he wants a woman who will ignore all her needs for him and what he wants when he wants it
i called it the moment he said he bought a shirt specifically because his gf at the moment told him she hated that color, that pettiness comes from hating women i think
Yes!!!! As soon as he started speaking this way and he did so with such intense rage with that dead look in his eyes ... he rly just gave me incel "all you females are the same" vibes. He seems like he expects a woman to be a robot.
Grenade is a term I think popularized on jersey shore. They would use it to describe ugly women, specifically ugly women who were hanging out with hot girls. If your friend “jumped on a grenade” that meant he was taking one for the team (distracting the ugly girl) so his friend could hook up with the hot girl. I.e. the best wing men were willing to jump on grenades for their friends. I didn’t know people still used that word I feel like it’s super played out
Came here to say this. You're not old Kennie. Ironically, you are probably just slightly too young for this term to make sense since it was popular around the 18-24 yr old crowd in 2010 lol
@@CornellG Yeah. He owned up to it. That means he had to sit there and pretend he didn't deserve what they said? He could have been mature and just let it go, but the point was that he was whining about no one being on his side. If you do something wrong, then complain that no one likes you because of it, did you really take accountability?
I got the vibe that Tim was one of those guys who listens to alpha male podcasts and then the reunion came out and just by the language he was using, I think it’s very obvious and clear he does😭🥴
@@CowsRdumb Yeah but Brett was also pouring his heart out at that time. I died at Tiffany napping because same, sometimes my battery just runs out and we dont even know how long they were filming. In both cases, better communication solves everything.
@ no that's not what happened. That was still the time love is blind set was toxic and they were pumping them with wine and not feeding them. She had a valid reason
On Twitter someone said something along the lines of "Ashley really said my man my man and I'm gonna stay beside him as long he comes home" it's sad but it's their life i guess
😂.. hehehe 🤣..oh! She's in for a rude awakening, after that obvious serial professional baby daddy leaves her with multiple sets of twins.. and she finds out there were few more dozens walking around the globe.. cause he ain't just fertile in these USA... Ohhh 👀la la!!🤣 That stupid girl better get a solid pre-nup.. cause he seems like the type to ask for alimony.. after cheating on you and dumping your dumb behind 💯
I HATE people who are like Hannah. this whole argument of "oh I'm not mean or heartless, I'm just honest and direct 🥺 people are not used to that 🥺" like no baby you can be honest and have some empathy and care for the people in your life.
THIS!! You can be honest and still phrase things in a respectful non-combative way lol. A therapist I used to follow would say that you can phrase any complaint by following this simple script: describe pure facts, explain how that makes you feel, suggest what your partner could do to make it better, add a nice comment like "That would make me feel very safe/comforted/supported".
Nick was no saint. But Hannah was a BULLY and verbally abusive to him. Then continued to be in the reunion. Marissa acting like her side kick and yelling at him when it is obvious she is actually mad at Ramses but he isn’t an active fighter himself so she just fuels Hannah and her own issue into Nick. AD then not keeping quiet got annoying cause she backed up the abusive person purely cause Hannah is another woman. Hannah was not being a “bad bitch”. She was cruel and just a bitch. And then she was mad that he messaged girls? They aren’t together and have not been for a year. On top of the fact that people do make that stuff up. Hannah is a bully. She most definitely was one in school and you can just tell, she was the type of bully who was very insecure about themselves, and did not think of themselves as a bully because they think they are the victim, and was friends with people who were the same.
agreed. Hannah and Marissa tried to make it seem like hannah acted the way that she did because of nick's comments. Meanwhile, she had every opportunity to leave or dump nick and even attempted to in the pods. But she just kept going towards him. the other women that clocked that nick was on love is blind for other reasons stayed away from him. Why didn't she? And how are all the girls hearing from their male partners that nick is saying mean stuff about hannah and they never go to hannah to tell her whats up? Monica saying she is protective of hannah made no sense. Marissa defending Hannah while also agreeing that she is bitch and is mean to her, just showed me she learned nothing from her breakup.
Completely agree. Ramses doesn’t behave in a manner for Marissa to actually turn up and get her aggression off. Calling Nick fake and not here for the right reasons is actually a very good description of Ramses.
What blows my mind is that the entire production - including Nick - seemed to center around helping Hannah not look like an abusive monster… And she couldn’t stop abusing Nick long enough to let it take effect!
@@lotusthemermaidThat would be the only explanation that makes sense!?! Cause even Vanessa fake attempts to expose her.. were just that: fake!!. She didn't follow through and allowed Hannah and her minions to literally rewrite the entire narrative.. and manipulate the outcome!! That was... Infuriating ... but also heartbreaking 💔 for Nick.. and I don't even like the guy.. but the truth is.. should be the only deciding factor💯
Okay but did y’all peep Marissa’s mom? She knew real tea and spoke truth. When Hannah and her 3 week best friend clarified the trust issue, Marissa’s mom leaned in and whispered “she let you believe she hated you for a year” I believe she doesn’t approve of their friendship. Hannah seems to want to be the leader of a girl group, very Regina George vibes so the other women either don’t challenge her or band with her.
Marissa mom need to get her own life idc if she’s right or wrong, she’s double all their ages and she’s tryna get her 15 min nobody cast her on love is blind but here she is, a whole character this season…
@@jimmypad5501That doesn't mean she can't be right on some topics💯... And on that one point, I agree.. her daughter was being dumb.. just to get an approval from the blond Witch Hannah herself😂... The second hand embarrassment was real.. and then low self esteem AD decided to join in... Too sad fr
@@jimmypad5501 nah she a real one for being bold enough to go on TV to defend her daughter and embarrass Ramses the same way he embarrassed her girl before the world. Marissa needed that emotional support, if she didn’t she wouldn’t be as close to her mom or allowed her to come along. Her mom was the first person she called when the break-up happened. That lets me know she finds her mom a safe place to go when she’s going through something. Yeah her mom has tough love and is tense and it makes her seem cold but I know she loves her daughter dearly and would fold any man that breaks her heart. She still gave Ramses credit for ending the relationship bc it saved her girl from a future of heartbreaks. I don’t blame her mom at all, to have your kid be shattered and crying like that on TV would do something to any parent’s parental instincts.
@@francineserwili4674 Marissa's behavior of craving the approval of a witch isn't something she popped into the world with. Her mother has some fault in instilling that in her. Marissa's mom helped to screw Marissa up and now makes fun of Marissa for it. That shit ain't cool.
The overall problem with this show has devolved to them casting women that are so desperate for marriage that they ignore every single red flag thrown their way & end up looking like booboo the fool, & in contrast casting men who are the least qualified for marriage (literally the most demonic mfs ever) but wanna end up on Perfect Match at some point so they go through with LIB first. They think that combo is gonna give them good ratings when ppl really just want more Lauren & Cameron’s, Brett & Tiffany’s, Zack & Bliss’, etc.
Yes yes yes 1000 times yes. I don’t give a fuck about the drama, cause all it does is give men like Tyler a platform to lie in our faces and a beautiful wife who is ride or die to her own detriment. I don’t want to watch that happen to someone? The success of the nontoxic Great British Bake Off has yet to permeate the rest of reality tv
You’re giving Tim way too much grace. If Garrett saw Taylor sitting on the bathroom floor crying, is there any amount of “fix it” mentality that would’ve resulted in him berating her for an hour with his finger in her face? What is the scenario where a reasonable man responds angrily to his fiancé crying over her dad?
"What is the scenario where a reasonable man responds angrily to his fiancé crying over her dad?" 👏 An abusive one. My ex treated me this exact way, getting angry at me for having feelings. What a PoS.
What the heck are you talking about Tim said he wanted to see if she was ok and what he could do to help her but instead of her communicating this she instead went all nasty towards him that turned it into a shouting match. I’m not understanding where we all getting that he was screaming and pointing fingers at her in her face. When they said it was her. The downfall of them was literally communicating there needs and expectations of each other.
Can we create a petition to make Kennie be the host of the reunion so we finally get the end of the season and answers for once...i will say they need to bring AD and Marshall again!! + Marissa's mom was such a real one with her commentary to Hannah's bestfriend in whole wide world or wtv she said + her reactions *chef's kiss*
She would never subject herself to that much nonsense 😂.. everyone would be in therapy (as they should) by the end of taping 🤣.. the way she would have dismantled Hannah's entire manipulation scheme in real time🙏.. and snatched AD weave the moment she was about to open her mouth and embarrass herself (and all of us) by defending the most problematic cast member of the season (.. maybe second worst.. after that serial professional baby daddy in the making)..😂
Marissa’s mom made a comment about how Hannah treated Marissa, while Marissa was going at Nick and defending Hannah. Which I thought was interesting and to me kinda shows how Marissa feels connected to/latches onto people who are not good for her or abusive (ie: her mom, Hannah, Ramses)
I personally think Marissa often finds herself in some bullshit and the mom is fed up, I have relatives whom will lay themselves on the cross for people whom treat them poorly. I get incredibly frustrated witnessing and being told about these interactions because my family members think the solution is to just keep being friendly instead of creating some distance or standing up for themselves.
@parkerisles7256 I could see her mom being very blunt and harsh. So perhaps Marissa in reaction to that is trying to prove her mom wrong and latches onto to red flags.
@Ashbrash1998😂😂... Damn.., but also I agree.. cause that was the most embarrassing display of unhinged, self-destructive behavior I have seen in a minute!! Her mom comes out horrible.. but on this.. I agree, probably fed up, as I am .. and I just met her!😂And that whole rant... was all about HER.. poor Nick was just collateral..
The funniest part about Hannah speach was her saying she's self aware and she's been working on herself internally because i can't see any of that and she acted exactly how i personally expect + production and the cast continuing to allow her disrespectful and rude aproach *sigh* + from all the shitty men they went the hardest on nick what... Edit: I just remembered someone made a good point on twitter by saying something like "are we really supposed to believe that if Hannah knew that Nick was saying all those stuff about her she wouldn't have expressed that considering how "blunt and straightforward" she is" and that's a really good point to be honest...
@@TheDawnofVanlife they aren’t each others first loves in life obviously lol. If Irina wasn’t so nasty to him he wouldn’t ’t have thought twice about Bliss. She was a backup plan and she settled
I don’t get the hate and I think it’s funny that she said Tim looked like a saint on the show and he didn’t but I do feel like Alex should have given more in the relationship..🤷🏾♀️
@@GoochievD His reasoning for breaking up with her was stupid and lame but I do feel like there were times where she could have given more, when he meet her family for one.🤷🏾♀️ He cooked all the food, she asked him to make everybody’s plate and then he had to do the dishes, I’m sorry but that did make me side eye her. Obviously he should have communicated better and more often than he did and not come from a place of animosity..at the end of the day neither one of them was ready and they shouldn’t have been together.🙃
@@MsMojo014That's sth that could have been a conversation instead of a dealbreaker bc I also hate it when someone goes out of their way to do sth then comes bellowing at me for not reading their mind knowing they wanted me to do it myself. Idk if Alex is ND but I definitely am and seeing her get called bad news for having a messy room or not getting to the chores right away and deserving wtf that break up talk was got me so heated with how people are treating her online.
I really don't understand why 4h isn't enough to spend with his family if she's got a nightshift coming up. Wth? Don't his parents wanna rest after their journey? Do they disappear at midnight like Cinderella?
Tim made it seem like the parents made a 10hr drive for a brief meal and visit, then drove back home. During their breakup he mentioned her not reciprocating the energy Tim put into meeting Alex’s parents, being disrespectful for ditching them to take a nap etc. Alex was portrayed poorly in the show’s edit and Tim’s characterization of her so the audience deemed her as inconsiderate. I’m glad that Alex held Tim to the fire for misconstruing the situation and explained that they actually hung out with his parents for several days/a week.
okay but the way people on the internet are switching up on marissa is wild! the cyber bullying can bring someone to su*c*de. was she kinda insane? yes! but her main point was that both hannah and nick were in the wrong. (obviously, hannah is way more in the wrong than nick) i wish the HOSTS actually addressed hannah's emotional abuse. idk, everyone is way too comfortable being mean to strangers.
Yeah, reality television is a special kind of hell that we've cooked up for ourselves. It brings out the worst in participants and viewers. I don't know how we get this to stop.
Marissa implied that Nick deserved Hannah’s abuse at the reunion and minimized it to her being bitchy; no one deserves death threats but the change in the audience’s perception of her is warranted.
Nothing was the same after Tim and Alex had that initial argument. Tim doesn't seem to have the capacity to see beyond his own perspective. People argue sometimes, it happens, but the difference is that Alex wanted to take responsibility for her actions, forgive, learn and move on, while Tim seemed to wallow in hurt pride. A person like that will throw every single mistake you ever made in your face for the rest of your life, no matter how much you've grown. Can't work with a person like that imo.
I probably would have walked away after the first big fight and not given it a second thought but someone calling me out of my name isn’t a pattern I want to see happen again or accept. They were pretty incompatible, from their communication styles to the way they approached conflict and day to day tasks. Tim is one of my least favorite cast members but I honestly think they’re both far better off without the other in their life.
I truly do not understand the Alex hate. I've seen people comment how her room was a red flag? 😂 bitches be messy and sleepy. Tim never gave her a chance to be the wife he wanted. He was just petty. No wonder she called him what she did.
You should not call your fiance a little 🍑 🐝 but if you act like one, imma think it. There’s a reason people calling him sassy on the internet. He did Alex a favor.
Hannah has NOT worked on herself. She says so but she didn't take proper accountability, she deflects. I believe she is a mean girl through and through.
Facts!! And her pretty privilege.. among others, have allowed her to get away with it💔 .. that was a master class in manipulation, as she's controlled by her insecurity issues.. that were never properly addressed💯 she probably had few therapy sessions... so she can have actual proof, and lie about completing the visibly 😂 still much needed healing!! Cause no legit Therapist that treated her could have told her.. "you are fixed and perfect now, go terrorize the world now!?! " 😂 Ain't no way!! I am laughing, cause crying.. although is the only appropriate response💔.. wouldn't solve this mess!! .. Cause Nick didn't deserve that... And Marissa who let herself be manipulated.. while visibly very hurt and in pain... is her victim too!! She took advantage of her pain, at the time when she needed a true friend 💔... But what can I do... I have to find ways to laugh away the insanity .. for my own sake 🙏
She’s a girl who was abused growing up, taking it out on the people around her. I hope she gets mental help but if she’s really been in therapy then at this point she’s cooked. She can’t acknowledge she’s less than perfect, so she can’t improve
Kennie I’m really surprised you didn’t say anything about Marisa’s mom telling Katie “But she made you feel like shit for a year” after Hannah said she did trust her. I thought you’d have a field day with that comment LOL
Me too!!... That was a WHOLE moment... that exposed Hannah plotting scheme to demonize Nick.. while flaunting her new snatched in everyway body 😂.. on that stage. In a normal world...she would have run away, same as other past seasons villains 😂... Or came humbly to take accountability and receive the justified scolding!! Not this witch😅.. she planned, schemed, recruited the weakest most gullible and flawed cast members.. to fight her battle... And in the most fucked up display of "WTF just happened"... Nick came out as the villain?!??! Whaaat😂... We were screaming like.. wait a Damn minute 😡.. even Marissa bitchy mom denounced Hannah's intentions 💯 😤... Hold on now👀.. so yes it's bad to tell people they're hotter than we really think... but is that really all he did...🤣.. oh he also kinda was/is.. a fame hoe 🤣.. like all of y'all 🤭... anything else... We're still confused💯
The minute she said night shift, I already knew what was up. It just baffles me that people are mad at a nap like who doesn't love a nap and the fact that it was for an hour only is amazing (I also think she was a little depressed)
I do wish that they brought up the conversation between Nick and Hannah's brother where they both agree she dishes a lot of harshness but can't take it when someone jokes back in the same way. Also it's interesting that Hannah would complain that Nick made her insecure when one of the arguments she uses to seem less bad is why would he stay when he was being treated so terribly which now brings the argument why would she stay if Nick made her so insecure.
It was a public Lynching... And Hannah was the puppet master😂.. even the Lasheys let it happen.. with Vanessa dropping fake attempts to rectify the situation... The Logic and common sense you're bringing.. was never part of the plan 💯.. just BS through and through.. apparently they have Hannah involved in some of their other upcoming projects.. so they can't possibly be objective and fair to their own process... Complete garbage fr 💯
I don't know what happened there because it seems like Hannah's brother was also co-signing the "Nick is a fake" narrative. He probably was a fake, but Hannah was straight up abusive.
@@drmsd14 I actually don't understand the 'he's fake' at all. He's immature as hell. That's not a problem to me, immature guys aren't always awful. But I bring that up because immature guys wish for immature things. Like being famous. And *the most famous love is blind guy* is a crazy goal to have if he acted like milk toast during the show. He was inoffensive to me. Honestly, just thought he had a lot of patience, because someone talking to me like that would have gotten clap-backs. Shake exists, he's the worst love is blind man, period. And Brett Exists, the best one, period. (I will not be taking notes on that part) The fact that he wrote it two weeks before the show started and it was a ninety day goal also tells a story about how it wasn't serious, IMHO. No way in Hell production told him the show was airing within that 76 days his goal was for. If he knows about the show at all, he also knew that wasn't true. ( Rant about Hannah's behavior ) I am one million percent sure Hannah was just doing whatever she could to make him the bad guy. Like telling him she knew he wanted to fly a girl out to be with him. *So* ? She ain't with him anymore. Why do you care? Also telling him that girls he's talking to, tell her and show her his DM's? So why hasn't she told them to stop and she doesn't care. He's a grown ass man. He can do what he wants. This is why I'm so frustrated over her behavior. How is she saying she's more mature than him? Because she didn't wanna have fun and ride a damn duck? Then she says she's fun, but no one has seen her trying to be fun? She talked at length, immaturely about how he didn't like the way she looked. Did she think none of the cameras caught her face during their reveal? Or the fact that she was also *audibly* disappointed in how he looked? As far as I'm concerned, he was more polite than her, because she dogged him to his face. And the girls standing up for her, talking about how it's wrong he did that, and he said he 'can't stand her'? Well if someone treated me the way she treated him, I wouldn't be able to stand them either. If he really called her a 5/10, so? That's average. She's not even a 7 *after* her 'glow up'. Does losing a little more weight really make you that much hotter? She looked about the same to me. He was bad for his weaponized incompetence visa vi, domestic chores, but at the same time, she was just literally downright abusive to him. She can't sit there and act like she didn't *want* to play mommy, because she was *so fucking proud* of 'turning him from a boy to a man'.
Was anyone else stunned by how good Marissa looked at the reunion? I mean she was already gorgeous but the professional makeup really made her look like a celebrity i was blown away seeing her
ashley has zero standards, my god. you can tell she's the type of woman that when her man cheats, she attacks and harasses the woman for 'tempting' him.
i hate seeing the nick and hannah situation here. its like if someone's abused but theyre not a literal saint or angel people suddenly think its okay? she was straight up horrible to him!! he's not perfect but he doesn't have to be for what hannah did to be wrong
Tim gave me raving red flags from day one. Alex isn't perfect either but he seems to have an idea of the perfect wife in his head and any deviation from that is seen as disrespectful.
Tim is a deep misogynist who is probably fueled by alpha bro podcasts, and the loudest LIB majority is reddit users who, regardless of gender, also seem to hate women, so Alex was in such a losing situation both in her relationship and online... I feel so sorry for her honestly
Yea I’ve only seen people use Alex’s messy house or her hand in her pocket while hugging his parents as an excuse for disliking her. Tim said himself he was never assaulted so they’re grasping at straws atp
As a Hungarian woman who's been watching you for a while now I feel so validated to hear that others have misheard ad roll Kennie to admiral Kennie, too 😂 took me a while to get it but admiral Kennie for the ad reads did sound cute
Nick exercised a lot of constraint. Hannah would’ve caught all hands and feet if she treated me that way idc. As a woman in no way shape or form would I let a male version of a Hannah EVER belittle and disparage me like that! Like the level of vitriol one can have towards their own significant other is wilddd. Like at that point if you don’t like me and you’re so cruel to me then why are you with me still?? GTFO
Marissa gave a Nancy! Nancy went harder on Cole than Bartiste and Marissa did the exact same thing! Going Harder on Nick. Hannah doubled down and truly has shown Zero growth. I lowkey love Marissa's mom for whispering into Hannah's best friend in the whole wide world's ear! What happened with Tyler and Ashley! I'm so confused. So she knew everything? How can he is "That family" "Those children" He really distanced himself And The plot twist I never saw coming, looks like Leo is the most normal.
Two things: 1. Accusing Nick of only coming on LIB to become famous is WILD. I am sure they all do to some degree but he is not the one fully leaning into the influencer thing, that would be Hannah. He still has a job. 2. Marissa's mom leaning over to "Caidee" whispering "She made you feel like shit for a year" after the whole thing about her and Nick supposedly overstepping by talking to each other made. my. day.
idk what ur gonna say about alex in this video but my GOD whenever she came on screen for a whole two seconds i kept having to rewind it just to see her. she’s so beautiful i have a bad crush i fear 😞
I love how Stephen, the guy who said the wind gives him a boner, is now sitting on the couch looking like a philosophy professor at a prestigious university. 💀
I’ve only watched this show all the way through 1 time, and I tried it again this season because it seemed so wild. I couldn’t get through it, and officially concluded that I’d MUCH rather have someone like Kennie or Dr. Honda tell me allllllll about it 😂😂😂
stephen did to monica what he did with his ex: "fake" cheats aka just talks and makes sure they see it (hence him not erasing messages or putting a lock on his phone) so THEY can break up with him so he is the victim. dont fall for these obvious ploys. players copy each other just like criminals, they are NOT smart or original. dont let them fool ya!
Its probably irrelevant - but that woman with a kid from season one: She is the season one villain - Jessica! She always wanted Barnett, but did not get him in the end & she was the most tipsy one, I would say👀 (her looks changed so much, I needed to look twice). I know too much about this, I‘m sorry😅 9:13
@@cozycasasmr4510 Totally! I meant it more in terms of type-casting, there is a "villain" in each season, as they want to sprinkle in some drama, and in season one it felt like they put Jessica in that position, too. I'm sure that most people being type-casted in some way or another can be really great and kind people outside of reality tv (or at least are not as "bad" as they seem). I just wanted to draw that association, and because of Jessica famously having that role, I'm sure it's the "quickest" association with "who she is", so to speak.
TO ME it feels like ppl turned on Alex the moment they saw her messy apartment. Like that meant she was somehow a bad person, then combined with the "she put her hands on him" (which was a blatant misuse of that term) ppl are convinced Alex is this horrible human and then that must make Tim her victim. That's become the narrative for every cpl within this fandom;one person is the villain and the other is the victim. Which imo isn't healthy. Instead of approaching these cpls with empathy, it's all judgement and projection. It blows my mind that anyone would see the way Tim speaks and behaves & feel he's a victim of anything besides alpha male podcast and incel forums.
honestly a lot of people are just straight up ableist. like, your partner cant take a nap? get a grip. needing naps is such an integral, NECESSARY thing for a ton of neurodivergent, disabled, etc folks. like maybe take a step back and dont see someone not focusing on you for a second as a personal slight. wild
AD is allegedly in a relationship with Ollie from LIB UK from meeting on the next season of Perfect Match- sleuthing fans have matched up their trip in London from their IG story / post backgrounds so she can’t say more under NDA
Season 8 is gonna be in Minneapolis, and as someone who lives in Minneapolis, the dating options here are a level of bananas that I don't think the mainstream has ever seen. Some stuff will be familiar, but they don't call us "The Land of 10,000 Bottoms" for nothing.
@@emhu2594 Same. It was all too much with the Tyler situation and seeing these men playing in these womens' faces. I don't want to watch that anymore, especially for black women.
“Grenade” is actually something I remember learning from watching jersey shore lol. So I think you haven’t heard it because it’s older and no one says out anymore, not because it’s new. Urban dictionary says “The solitary ugly girl always found with a group of hotties. If the grenade doesn't get any action, then neither does anyone else.” I hate that this word exists, I’m just telling you what it means lol.
Tyler & Ashley got a court date on the 15th of Nov about "those kids." A hot mess. Everyone is a hot mess. A.D. is supposedly seeing Ollie... I think they are gonna be on The Perfect Match.
Marissa was def projecting her issues of Ramses and her mom onto Nick and that’s why she went so hard on him. Her mom throughout the reunion was very much like when the villain makes good points 🥴. I will not forget how her mom told Ramses how Marissa has been fucked over by the men in her life (dad, step father etc.) and it’s like WHO BROUGHT THOSE MEN INTO HER LIFE THEN hmmmm?? Garrett and Taylor were highkey side eyeing EVERYONE and it was hilarious
Imagine being one of the babies of the successful couples. When they've grown up, they can watch how their parents fell in love on TV. And they can claim the title Blind Love Baby or something.
Ramses threw nick under the bus about the grenade comment to try and save his progressive feminist image. Stephen did it to try and come off as mature and everyone can just ignore how he cheated 2 days after Mexico. Still doesn’t justify Hannah’s actual abuse.
@@weare9770 Aren't "pick me's" women who belittle and talk down on OTHER women for male validation?Marissa is more of a "girl's girl", she stuck up and defended Hannah who was clearly in the wrong.
@@Alter_Ego22you are all so dense and misunderstanding 😂 Marissa literally pointed out that Hannah has issues, but that Nick shouldn't be seen as this amazing person either. And she's absolutely right for that.
Watching Tim convincing Alex's dad to give him his blessing made me cry lol. You could literally see how emotional and important it was for the dad to invite Tim into his family. I turned to my partner and said that I didnt care for them before but now they have to get married, if not for themselves, then for her DAD! And then to find out Tim breaks it off TWO DAYS LATER, like I was so angry at him! I never cared for the parents before because marriage is between the individuals but WTF YOU PLAYED WITH HER DAD'S HEART HOW DARE YOU
They attacked Nick like he was some kind of murderer. They made him a scapegoat. And the real villains teased themselves with some questions and answers. Disgusting Reunion. Marissa and Monica lost a lot in my eyes by defending Hannah so blindly and stupidly.
Sorry but I’m not buying the contraception BS. Every single type of contraceptive other than condom has an effect on a womanshealth, but for condoms the only effect is that the guy feels slightly less good. How is this ever even a debate? Why is it so normalized that a guyspleasure is just as important as someone’s literal physical health??
Also there are so many different kinds of condoms out there on the market now, even Kennie mentioned Skyn condoms which I've never heard of! My bf never ever had an issue with condoms and I'm sure it's slightly different from everyone, but you can tell Ramses did not even want to bother trying which is the most frustrating.
Ppl are saying that AD is actually with Ollie from LIB UK because there’s a video or something of them out at dinner. But, you aren’t alone on catching some vibe between Marshal and AD because I’ve seen a few toks wondering if they are a thing or saying that they should be.
About the Nick comments behind her back. Stephen is NOT reputable source, he lies alot and even lied about his texts. He said he doesn't delete texts but somehow he deleted his texts about the kinks. And all Ramses did was confirm something was said but not the exact words used. So we don't know if he just said the reveal was underwhelming or called her ugly and a grenade
They used the term "Grenade" a lot back in the Jersey Shore days. Simply put it means ugly or unattractive. Basically if a hot girl was out with her "unattractive" friend and said she would only go back to the house if her friend came along. A guy would hope one of his roommates would "fall on a grenade" so he could get with the hot girl.
Hannah absolutely manipulated the situation! its such a classic abusive move to make people question the experience of the person they were intentionally hurting, really crappy move. Babe needs therapy
i feel like all the pivotal moments happening off screen is indicative of the production's heavy hand this season. they probably knew everything and just tried to spice things up
Jessica from S1 looks totally different to the point I needed them to name her to remember her. But good for her. I guess they mean to say: "LIB doesn't totally wreck the lives of participants, see?"
Honestly it was a relief to see how good she was doing considering the amount of hate she got during s1. Now I just need Cole to show up next season’s reunion and show he’s doing great too.
Congrats to Bliss and Zach! They do look so legitimately happy, I hope they keep finding joy with each other and their kid! And I do hope AD ends up in a good place too, whether it's with Marshall (I saw that lean at 20:21...) or someone else or no one. Girl has been through so much. (I did chuckle to see her and Nancy on the same couch, like yeah I bet the two of you unfortunately have a lot to commiserate over...)
0:28 Some creators get the episodes in advance from Netflix - if you ever do another commentary on one of these shows maybe you could get them in advance too?
A lot of people reacted to her taking a nap because we didn’t have all of the information. Tim was obviously being disingenuous about the nap and the dishes situations.
Leo and Brittany being chill friends is something I didn't see coming but good on them
I love that for them honestly
Her facial expression when he was talking about ordering sent me 😂
Yes! I was so surprised
He paid her some money for that performance 😂
It makes sense, they both love money 😅
Honestly Tim slipping in an incel line (you all want to be taken seriously) really really confirms to me that he had some "my woman should do things the way I want them" type thoughts
Absolutely. And him being so angry that she took a nap---seems like he wants a woman who will ignore all her needs for him and what he wants when he wants it
i called it the moment he said he bought a shirt specifically because his gf at the moment told him she hated that color, that pettiness comes from hating women i think
Makes sense that he and Leo are so close. Incel types value rich boys above all else.
Honestly his job was a dead giveaway that he wasn’t sh- in the first place anyway
Yes!!!! As soon as he started speaking this way and he did so with such intense rage with that dead look in his eyes ... he rly just gave me incel "all you females are the same" vibes. He seems like he expects a woman to be a robot.
Grenade is a term I think popularized on jersey shore. They would use it to describe ugly women, specifically ugly women who were hanging out with hot girls. If your friend “jumped on a grenade” that meant he was taking one for the team (distracting the ugly girl) so his friend could hook up with the hot girl. I.e. the best wing men were willing to jump on grenades for their friends. I didn’t know people still used that word I feel like it’s super played out
I thought he meant her body shape
Came here to say this. You're not old Kennie. Ironically, you are probably just slightly too young for this term to make sense since it was popular around the 18-24 yr old crowd in 2010 lol
wow i didn't know of this usage and it's gross and i'm glad it's not used as much anymore
@@pssurvivoryeah the cast of jersey shore wasn’t exactly the kindest to women
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Stephen throwing himself a pity party was hilarious. It only got funnier when no one bought it.
What else was he suppose to say? He owned up to it. Does that mean he deserves a lifetime of lashings?
Fr fr like balloons & all!
I love your username. Extra sour pork sinigang for me 😋
@@CornellG Lol yeah he was pulling the Lebron "what should I do?" it was a riot
@@CornellG Yeah. He owned up to it. That means he had to sit there and pretend he didn't deserve what they said? He could have been mature and just let it go, but the point was that he was whining about no one being on his side. If you do something wrong, then complain that no one likes you because of it, did you really take accountability?
I’m telling you, Hannah will end up on those alpha male podcasts or some misogyny podcast. I’m calling it rn.
I can hear her say "I want a man" in her annoying southern voice to try to make those type of podcast men cream in their pants
I could see her trying to be on podcasts for sure
I had this exact thought earlier!
Hannah couldn’t handle an alpha male because the alpha male would put her in her place.
❤😂... Hehehe
The ultimate twist of this season was Leo somehow coming across as the most likable person by the end of it
ntm… you got a too much dip on ya chip with that one chile
MMMH I think he just realized exactly what he needed to say to clean his image after he spiraled on TV
@@blabible his pr team is working overtime
Especially on tiktok 😂
Crazy cause I was hold on “do I like Leo?”🤔
I got the vibe that Tim was one of those guys who listens to alpha male podcasts and then the reunion came out and just by the language he was using, I think it’s very obvious and clear he does😭🥴
Yes, he was dropping podcast classics all through the show.
He is a dusty...
Tim wants to be a lion so bad. 😭
terms like “high minded” … hahah…
@@cariwhyte Surprised we didn't get a "high-value" out of him, too. Or is that not the vernacular the manosphere uses anymore?
Imagine if Brett never forgave Tiffany for her nap incident. We never would've gotten one of the most wholesome couples
Wow that’s so true and that’s the difference y’all. Forgiveness is so important in relationships. Otherwise you’ll stay alone and be bitter.
LOL you're so rigth!
Those are two different situations
@@CowsRdumb Yeah but Brett was also pouring his heart out at that time. I died at Tiffany napping because same, sometimes my battery just runs out and we dont even know how long they were filming. In both cases, better communication solves everything.
@ no that's not what happened. That was still the time love is blind set was toxic and they were pumping them with wine and not feeding them. She had a valid reason
On Twitter someone said something along the lines of "Ashley really said my man my man and I'm gonna stay beside him as long he comes home" it's sad but it's their life i guess
It was some Tyler Perry shit, for real.
It's pasthetic. How coukd you want to be with someone who could make children to just abandon them and make them feel unworthy.
@@filipa8626 I agree, very sad. Some people don’t have enough self respect
In standing to for Tyler like that she's also endorsing how he treats his own kids. I think that's the saddest part
😂.. hehehe 🤣..oh! She's in for a rude awakening, after that obvious serial professional baby daddy leaves her with multiple sets of twins.. and she finds out there were few more dozens walking around the globe.. cause he ain't just fertile in these USA... Ohhh 👀la la!!🤣 That stupid girl better get a solid pre-nup.. cause he seems like the type to ask for alimony.. after cheating on you and dumping your dumb behind 💯
I HATE people who are like Hannah. this whole argument of "oh I'm not mean or heartless, I'm just honest and direct 🥺 people are not used to that 🥺" like no baby you can be honest and have some empathy and care for the people in your life.
Preach.... There's a thin between being forthcoming and direct and just being plain disrespectful and rude
There's no reason for honesty (if it even is honesty) to be brutal.
THIS!! You can be honest and still phrase things in a respectful non-combative way lol. A therapist I used to follow would say that you can phrase any complaint by following this simple script: describe pure facts, explain how that makes you feel, suggest what your partner could do to make it better, add a nice comment like "That would make me feel very safe/comforted/supported".
RIGHT! They just use that to justify being an asshole. Covering themselves
Nick was no saint. But Hannah was a BULLY and verbally abusive to him. Then continued to be in the reunion. Marissa acting like her side kick and yelling at him when it is obvious she is actually mad at Ramses but he isn’t an active fighter himself so she just fuels Hannah and her own issue into Nick.
AD then not keeping quiet got annoying cause she backed up the abusive person purely cause Hannah is another woman. Hannah was not being a “bad bitch”. She was cruel and just a bitch. And then she was mad that he messaged girls? They aren’t together and have not been for a year. On top of the fact that people do make that stuff up.
Hannah is a bully. She most definitely was one in school and you can just tell, she was the type of bully who was very insecure about themselves, and did not think of themselves as a bully because they think they are the victim, and was friends with people who were the same.
This!
YES, girl! I was so annoyed when AD chimed in. Like, this isn’t “girl power,” Hannah’s rude.
I've had friends like Hannah. Truly exhausting to have to dim your own glow, so that they can try and shine.
agreed. Hannah and Marissa tried to make it seem like hannah acted the way that she did because of nick's comments. Meanwhile, she had every opportunity to leave or dump nick and even attempted to in the pods. But she just kept going towards him. the other women that clocked that nick was on love is blind for other reasons stayed away from him. Why didn't she? And how are all the girls hearing from their male partners that nick is saying mean stuff about hannah and they never go to hannah to tell her whats up? Monica saying she is protective of hannah made no sense. Marissa defending Hannah while also agreeing that she is bitch and is mean to her, just showed me she learned nothing from her breakup.
Completely agree. Ramses doesn’t behave in a manner for Marissa to actually turn up and get her aggression off. Calling Nick fake and not here for the right reasons is actually a very good description of Ramses.
What blows my mind is that the entire production - including Nick - seemed to center around helping Hannah not look like an abusive monster… And she couldn’t stop abusing Nick long enough to let it take effect!
Shit, you're right. They gave her an out but I guess she's just too blunt lol
Vanessa literally gave her 3 prompts to apologize, and she didn't take any of them.
There's a theory that they're handling her with kid gloves because she's been cast on another one of their shows.
@@lotusthemermaidThat would be the only explanation that makes sense!?! Cause even Vanessa fake attempts to expose her.. were just that: fake!!. She didn't follow through and allowed Hannah and her minions to literally rewrite the entire narrative.. and manipulate the outcome!! That was... Infuriating ... but also heartbreaking 💔 for Nick.. and I don't even like the guy.. but the truth is.. should be the only deciding factor💯
Yup
“When you go to a restaurant…”
I’ve never rolled my eyes faster in my life
Money can’t buy charisma.
@@mollygrace3068 It may even be the opposite.
@@P0rk_Sinigangis the opposite “charisma can’t buy money”? Jkjk, I think I know what you mean 😂 like it’s rare to find wealthy ppl who have charisma?
@@hubabaloop Because often, they never needed to have it 😅
I thought it was a good analogy
Okay but did y’all peep Marissa’s mom? She knew real tea and spoke truth. When Hannah and her 3 week best friend clarified the trust issue, Marissa’s mom leaned in and whispered “she let you believe she hated you for a year” I believe she doesn’t approve of their friendship. Hannah seems to want to be the leader of a girl group, very Regina George vibes so the other women either don’t challenge her or band with her.
Marissa mom need to get her own life idc if she’s right or wrong, she’s double all their ages and she’s tryna get her 15 min nobody cast her on love is blind but here she is, a whole character this season…
@@jimmypad5501That doesn't mean she can't be right on some topics💯... And on that one point, I agree.. her daughter was being dumb.. just to get an approval from the blond Witch Hannah herself😂... The second hand embarrassment was real.. and then low self esteem AD decided to join in... Too sad fr
@@jimmypad5501 nah she a real one for being bold enough to go on TV to defend her daughter and embarrass Ramses the same way he embarrassed her girl before the world. Marissa needed that emotional support, if she didn’t she wouldn’t be as close to her mom or allowed her to come along. Her mom was the first person she called when the break-up happened. That lets me know she finds her mom a safe place to go when she’s going through something. Yeah her mom has tough love and is tense and it makes her seem cold but I know she loves her daughter dearly and would fold any man that breaks her heart. She still gave Ramses credit for ending the relationship bc it saved her girl from a future of heartbreaks. I don’t blame her mom at all, to have your kid be shattered and crying like that on TV would do something to any parent’s parental instincts.
@@melinatedthinka8210 Marissas mom being the hero of the season was something literally no one saw coming
@@francineserwili4674 Marissa's behavior of craving the approval of a witch isn't something she popped into the world with. Her mother has some fault in instilling that in her. Marissa's mom helped to screw Marissa up and now makes fun of Marissa for it. That shit ain't cool.
The overall problem with this show has devolved to them casting women that are so desperate for marriage that they ignore every single red flag thrown their way & end up looking like booboo the fool, & in contrast casting men who are the least qualified for marriage (literally the most demonic mfs ever) but wanna end up on Perfect Match at some point so they go through with LIB first. They think that combo is gonna give them good ratings when ppl really just want more Lauren & Cameron’s, Brett & Tiffany’s, Zack & Bliss’, etc.
Yes yes yes 1000 times yes. I don’t give a fuck about the drama, cause all it does is give men like Tyler a platform to lie in our faces and a beautiful wife who is ride or die to her own detriment. I don’t want to watch that happen to someone? The success of the nontoxic Great British Bake Off has yet to permeate the rest of reality tv
You’re giving Tim way too much grace. If Garrett saw Taylor sitting on the bathroom floor crying, is there any amount of “fix it” mentality that would’ve resulted in him berating her for an hour with his finger in her face? What is the scenario where a reasonable man responds angrily to his fiancé crying over her dad?
THIS!!!
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"What is the scenario where a reasonable man responds angrily to his fiancé crying over her dad?" 👏 An abusive one. My ex treated me this exact way, getting angry at me for having feelings. What a PoS.
What the heck are you talking about Tim said he wanted to see if she was ok and what he could do to help her but instead of her communicating this she instead went all nasty towards him that turned it into a shouting match. I’m not understanding where we all getting that he was screaming and pointing fingers at her in her face. When they said it was her. The downfall of them was literally communicating there needs and expectations of each other.
@@mypride_andjoy2269 it was said at the reunion
Hannah seems like the type to think she’s untouchable because she can stand up for herself. It’s giving, “my voice is louder so I’m right.”
Manipulative witch💯... We will never let her get away with it😡..
Can we create a petition to make Kennie be the host of the reunion so we finally get the end of the season and answers for once...i will say they need to bring AD and Marshall again!! + Marissa's mom was such a real one with her commentary to Hannah's bestfriend in whole wide world or wtv she said + her reactions *chef's kiss*
I don't want to force Kennie to have to be ordered around by the nightmare production team.
I love Kennie, but I choose Andy Cohen. THAT would be a reunion.
She would never subject herself to that much nonsense 😂.. everyone would be in therapy (as they should) by the end of taping 🤣.. the way she would have dismantled Hannah's entire manipulation scheme in real time🙏.. and snatched AD weave the moment she was about to open her mouth and embarrass herself (and all of us) by defending the most problematic cast member of the season (.. maybe second worst.. after that serial professional baby daddy in the making)..😂
I cannottttt lol 🎉😂
i could never forget jessica, when she gave that dog the wine she cemented herself in my memory
That was wild
Yes😢@@BritneyT.
I know right! She's the only person I really remember from that first season! 😂
Marissa’s mom made a comment about how Hannah treated Marissa, while Marissa was going at Nick and defending Hannah. Which I thought was interesting and to me kinda shows how Marissa feels connected to/latches onto people who are not good for her or abusive (ie: her mom, Hannah, Ramses)
Yeah, Marissa's mom really messed her up .
I personally think Marissa often finds herself in some bullshit and the mom is fed up, I have relatives whom will lay themselves on the cross for people whom treat them poorly. I get incredibly frustrated witnessing and being told about these interactions because my family members think the solution is to just keep being friendly instead of creating some distance or standing up for themselves.
@parkerisles7256 I could see her mom being very blunt and harsh. So perhaps Marissa in reaction to that is trying to prove her mom wrong and latches onto to red flags.
@Ashbrash1998😂😂... Damn.., but also I agree.. cause that was the most embarrassing display of unhinged, self-destructive behavior I have seen in a minute!! Her mom comes out horrible.. but on this.. I agree, probably fed up, as I am .. and I just met her!😂And that whole rant... was all about HER.. poor Nick was just collateral..
Her mom is way too involved she shouldn’t have been at the reunion
The funniest part about Hannah speach was her saying she's self aware and she's been working on herself internally because i can't see any of that and she acted exactly how i personally expect + production and the cast continuing to allow her disrespectful and rude aproach *sigh* + from all the shitty men they went the hardest on nick what...
Edit:
I just remembered someone made a good point on twitter by saying something like "are we really supposed to believe that if Hannah knew that Nick was saying all those stuff about her she wouldn't have expressed that considering how "blunt and straightforward" she is" and that's a really good point to be honest...
For reaaal. Hannah brought out a new shiny thing to distract from the deeper issues and they fell for it.
Great point!!! She’s a lame. Like bih needs to take responsibility for her actions. She raised nick from a boy to a man tho, so I guess we owe her 🤣
This was just another Cole vs Zanab + everyone for me
I think her self work was just losing weight.
Lol they always say "I'm working on myself" even though they haven't changed one bit 😂
Seeing Bliss and Zach still together warms by heart.
Mmm he chose irina
I am upset that they didn't name their kid after an Elden Ring character, though.
@@emhu2594yeah sorry not gonna romanize being second choice 😂 they do seem happy though! I hope he makes everyday special for her
@@uraddiictOnx3People always say that, litterally very few people marry the first person they ever date in life.
@@TheDawnofVanlife they aren’t each others first loves in life obviously lol. If Irina wasn’t so nasty to him he wouldn’t ’t have thought twice about Bliss. She was a backup plan and she settled
I'm 100% with you on Tim and Alex, he's so obviously a problem, the blaring sirens I hear whenever he opens his mouth are palpable
Oooo love the word choice! Palpable 🎉
he's a typical ashy and narcissist BLACK MAN.
I’m completely with you on Tim and I could not believe the amount of hate Alex was getting lmao.
I don’t get the hate and I think it’s funny that she said Tim looked like a saint on the show and he didn’t but I do feel like Alex should have given more in the relationship..🤷🏾♀️
@@MsMojo014he gave up bc she took a nap and SHE could give more?
@@GoochievD His reasoning for breaking up with her was stupid and lame but I do feel like there were times where she could have given more, when he meet her family for one.🤷🏾♀️ He cooked all the food, she asked him to make everybody’s plate and then he had to do the dishes, I’m sorry but that did make me side eye her. Obviously he should have communicated better and more often than he did and not come from a place of animosity..at the end of the day neither one of them was ready and they shouldn’t have been together.🙃
@@MsMojo014The dishes being the breaking point is more pathetic. Oh no, cooking and cleaning? Poor baby.
@@MsMojo014That's sth that could have been a conversation instead of a dealbreaker bc I also hate it when someone goes out of their way to do sth then comes bellowing at me for not reading their mind knowing they wanted me to do it myself. Idk if Alex is ND but I definitely am and seeing her get called bad news for having a messy room or not getting to the chores right away and deserving wtf that break up talk was got me so heated with how people are treating her online.
I really don't understand why 4h isn't enough to spend with his family if she's got a nightshift coming up. Wth? Don't his parents wanna rest after their journey? Do they disappear at midnight like Cinderella?
Tim made it seem like the parents made a 10hr drive for a brief meal and visit, then drove back home. During their breakup he mentioned her not reciprocating the energy Tim put into meeting Alex’s parents, being disrespectful for ditching them to take a nap etc. Alex was portrayed poorly in the show’s edit and Tim’s characterization of her so the audience deemed her as inconsiderate. I’m glad that Alex held Tim to the fire for misconstruing the situation and explained that they actually hung out with his parents for several days/a week.
Right? I'm of the mind that the nap wasn't the issue. Alpha Tim just wanted an excuse.
Correct like apparently when someone can't nap a 1 hour nap!
@INTPJay6120 you have much to learn. When parents come down to see you, you DO NOT sleep while they're there to see you.
@@ibtunesoriginals2629 no people have lives and jobs lol. that's entitled
Tyler and Ashley lying harder than last time
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They are a disgust pair. They deserve each other.
okay but the way people on the internet are switching up on marissa is wild! the cyber bullying can bring someone to su*c*de. was she kinda insane? yes! but her main point was that both hannah and nick were in the wrong. (obviously, hannah is way more in the wrong than nick) i wish the HOSTS actually addressed hannah's emotional abuse. idk, everyone is way too comfortable being mean to strangers.
I never really liked Marissa and definitely didn’t at the reunion but cyber bullying is crazy to me🤦🏾♀️
Yeah, reality television is a special kind of hell that we've cooked up for ourselves. It brings out the worst in participants and viewers. I don't know how we get this to stop.
Marissa implied that Nick deserved Hannah’s abuse at the reunion and minimized it to her being bitchy; no one deserves death threats but the change in the audience’s perception of her is warranted.
@@parkerisles7256exactly right
She's a pick me and she's homophobic af. She attempted to clear her image, in vain.
Nothing was the same after Tim and Alex had that initial argument. Tim doesn't seem to have the capacity to see beyond his own perspective. People argue sometimes, it happens, but the difference is that Alex wanted to take responsibility for her actions, forgive, learn and move on, while Tim seemed to wallow in hurt pride. A person like that will throw every single mistake you ever made in your face for the rest of your life, no matter how much you've grown. Can't work with a person like that imo.
I probably would have walked away after the first big fight and not given it a second thought but someone calling me out of my name isn’t a pattern I want to see happen again or accept. They were pretty incompatible, from their communication styles to the way they approached conflict and day to day tasks. Tim is one of my least favorite cast members but I honestly think they’re both far better off without the other in their life.
yall don’t understand how much i waited for this
Literally. That reunion was a fever dream
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No fr😭
Yes, yes we do lol
I truly do not understand the Alex hate. I've seen people comment how her room was a red flag? 😂 bitches be messy and sleepy. Tim never gave her a chance to be the wife he wanted. He was just petty. No wonder she called him what she did.
@@869ofuncertainty completely agree.
Alex was never going to be the wife Tim wanted Alex wasn’t willing to put the effort in and she paid the price.
@@Adamtendo_player_1 WHAT PRICE? She dodged a bullet for real, we didn't see him be the emotionally intelligent partner she needed so......
Normalize leaving before they drag you down to their level.
You should not call your fiance a little 🍑 🐝 but if you act like one, imma think it. There’s a reason people calling him sassy on the internet. He did Alex a favor.
Hannah has NOT worked on herself. She says so but she didn't take proper accountability, she deflects. I believe she is a mean girl through and through.
Facts!! And her pretty privilege.. among others, have allowed her to get away with it💔 .. that was a master class in manipulation, as she's controlled by her insecurity issues.. that were never properly addressed💯 she probably had few therapy sessions... so she can have actual proof, and lie about completing the visibly 😂 still much needed healing!! Cause no legit Therapist that treated her could have told her.. "you are fixed and perfect now, go terrorize the world now!?! " 😂 Ain't no way!!
I am laughing, cause crying.. although is the only appropriate response💔.. wouldn't solve this mess!! .. Cause Nick didn't deserve that... And Marissa who let herself be manipulated.. while visibly very hurt and in pain... is her victim too!! She took advantage of her pain, at the time when she needed a true friend 💔... But what can I do... I have to find ways to laugh away the insanity .. for my own sake 🙏
She’s a girl who was abused growing up, taking it out on the people around her. I hope she gets mental help but if she’s really been in therapy then at this point she’s cooked. She can’t acknowledge she’s less than perfect, so she can’t improve
In regards to Tim, as soon as he started his word salad I was like oh he listens to fresh and fit got it.
Yes! Ugh he screams manosphere rhetoric.
Kennie I’m really surprised you didn’t say anything about Marisa’s mom telling Katie “But she made you feel like shit for a year” after Hannah said she did trust her. I thought you’d have a field day with that comment LOL
Me too!!... That was a WHOLE moment... that exposed Hannah plotting scheme to demonize Nick.. while flaunting her new snatched in everyway body 😂.. on that stage. In a normal world...she would have run away, same as other past seasons villains 😂... Or came humbly to take accountability and receive the justified scolding!!
Not this witch😅.. she planned, schemed, recruited the weakest most gullible and flawed cast members.. to fight her battle... And in the most fucked up display of "WTF just happened"... Nick came out as the villain?!??! Whaaat😂... We were screaming like.. wait a Damn minute 😡.. even Marissa bitchy mom denounced Hannah's intentions 💯 😤... Hold on now👀.. so yes it's bad to tell people they're hotter than we really think... but is that really all he did...🤣.. oh he also kinda was/is.. a fame hoe 🤣.. like all of y'all 🤭... anything else... We're still confused💯
As a person that works the night shift, the struggle to find people that understand 'the lethargy that consumes you' is to real.
The minute she said night shift, I already knew what was up. It just baffles me that people are mad at a nap like who doesn't love a nap and the fact that it was for an hour only is amazing (I also think she was a little depressed)
giving this to us so soon is such a blessing. when i turned it off im like "i need to know kennie's thoughts IMMEDIATELY."
😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
I do wish that they brought up the conversation between Nick and Hannah's brother where they both agree she dishes a lot of harshness but can't take it when someone jokes back in the same way.
Also it's interesting that Hannah would complain that Nick made her insecure when one of the arguments she uses to seem less bad is why would he stay when he was being treated so terribly which now brings the argument why would she stay if Nick made her so insecure.
It was a public Lynching... And Hannah was the puppet master😂.. even the Lasheys let it happen.. with Vanessa dropping fake attempts to rectify the situation... The Logic and common sense you're bringing.. was never part of the plan 💯.. just BS through and through.. apparently they have Hannah involved in some of their other upcoming projects.. so they can't possibly be objective and fair to their own process... Complete garbage fr 💯
Hannah made sure... That didn't happen!
I kinda wish Nick and Hannah's brother got to keep being friends, they were gelling really well.
I don't know what happened there because it seems like Hannah's brother was also co-signing the "Nick is a fake" narrative. He probably was a fake, but Hannah was straight up abusive.
@@drmsd14 I actually don't understand the 'he's fake' at all. He's immature as hell. That's not a problem to me, immature guys aren't always awful. But I bring that up because immature guys wish for immature things. Like being famous. And *the most famous love is blind guy* is a crazy goal to have if he acted like milk toast during the show. He was inoffensive to me. Honestly, just thought he had a lot of patience, because someone talking to me like that would have gotten clap-backs. Shake exists, he's the worst love is blind man, period. And Brett Exists, the best one, period. (I will not be taking notes on that part)
The fact that he wrote it two weeks before the show started and it was a ninety day goal also tells a story about how it wasn't serious, IMHO. No way in Hell production told him the show was airing within that 76 days his goal was for. If he knows about the show at all, he also knew that wasn't true.
( Rant about Hannah's behavior )
I am one million percent sure Hannah was just doing whatever she could to make him the bad guy. Like telling him she knew he wanted to fly a girl out to be with him. *So* ? She ain't with him anymore. Why do you care? Also telling him that girls he's talking to, tell her and show her his DM's? So why hasn't she told them to stop and she doesn't care. He's a grown ass man. He can do what he wants. This is why I'm so frustrated over her behavior. How is she saying she's more mature than him? Because she didn't wanna have fun and ride a damn duck? Then she says she's fun, but no one has seen her trying to be fun? She talked at length, immaturely about how he didn't like the way she looked. Did she think none of the cameras caught her face during their reveal? Or the fact that she was also *audibly* disappointed in how he looked? As far as I'm concerned, he was more polite than her, because she dogged him to his face. And the girls standing up for her, talking about how it's wrong he did that, and he said he 'can't stand her'? Well if someone treated me the way she treated him, I wouldn't be able to stand them either. If he really called her a 5/10, so? That's average. She's not even a 7 *after* her 'glow up'. Does losing a little more weight really make you that much hotter? She looked about the same to me.
He was bad for his weaponized incompetence visa vi, domestic chores, but at the same time, she was just literally downright abusive to him. She can't sit there and act like she didn't *want* to play mommy, because she was *so fucking proud* of 'turning him from a boy to a man'.
Zack.. the long lost property brother has returned. 😄😄
the lost media property brother
I agree with the Tim/Alex thing like. Alex honestly was one of the most real feeling/relatable people on this season. Tim’s comments were groooooss
I think they both suck
@islabee94 i agree. I feel like we barely even know either of them, and even then I'm not a fan of them
@@islabee94 That.
Was anyone else stunned by how good Marissa looked at the reunion? I mean she was already gorgeous but the professional makeup really made her look like a celebrity i was blown away seeing her
I loved her dress. I feel her hair could have been better. She either needed to have her hair completely sleek or voluminous curls.
ashley has zero standards, my god. you can tell she's the type of woman that when her man cheats, she attacks and harasses the woman for 'tempting' him.
GIRL I PEEPED THE AD AND MARSHALL VIBE TOO!!!!!! I thought it was just me!!! 🤣
Exactly, I was like "why he sitting so close to her???"
i hate seeing the nick and hannah situation here. its like if someone's abused but theyre not a literal saint or angel people suddenly think its okay? she was straight up horrible to him!! he's not perfect but he doesn't have to be for what hannah did to be wrong
I'm SOOO glad you picked up on that comment Tim made about women!
I honestly thought Admiral Kenny was just a character who paid the bills hence the leadership name??😂
Ad roll kenny
I was hearing "Advril" and thinking it was a pun I just didn't get, or like a funny persona thing 😂 Ad-Roll makes so much more sense
Yes I only realized it was that whn Kennie mentioned it lol If you were hearing “Ad roll” all this time then hats off to ya loll
Tim gave me raving red flags from day one. Alex isn't perfect either but he seems to have an idea of the perfect wife in his head and any deviation from that is seen as disrespectful.
Better the person who doesn't pretend to be a good man than the one who pretends to be holy and has abandoned 3 kids and has orgies all the time
😮 describe my ex without telling me it's my ex
Dude she slept while his parents came to see her. End of.
Tim is a deep misogynist who is probably fueled by alpha bro podcasts, and the loudest LIB majority is reddit users who, regardless of gender, also seem to hate women, so Alex was in such a losing situation both in her relationship and online... I feel so sorry for her honestly
Yea I’ve only seen people use Alex’s messy house or her hand in her pocket while hugging his parents as an excuse for disliking her. Tim said himself he was never assaulted so they’re grasping at straws atp
I do love how Tim confirms he wasn’t assaulted and people are refusing to believe him because it hurts their narrative that Alex is an abuser
@@Birdyboys Nothing gets in the way of misogyny. Nothing!
Nah she also slept while his parents came to visit her, which is extremely disrespectful 😊
@@ibtunesoriginals2629 no. she spent 4 hours with his parents, and then took a 1 hour nap because she works a lot
Lowkey, I've stopped caring about any couple aside from Zack and Bliss, they're my LiB faves. They're happy and dorky and in love
Why does no one remember that “grenade” was slag they used in Jersey Shore for an ugly girl!? 😂 Dang I think I’m the old one.
Ayyy Fist pump 😂. I remember those days
Same as soon as I heard it, my brain reverted back to being a teenager watching jersey shore on a loop on weekends.
I clocked it but was confused why Nick would use the term as a younger millennial (I’m a year younger than him); is he from the Jersey Shore?
@@parkerisles7256 saw his info says he is from Virgina. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a jersey shore fan.
Yeah, we're the old ones for remembering what it means.
As a Hungarian woman who's been watching you for a while now I feel so validated to hear that others have misheard ad roll Kennie to admiral Kennie, too 😂 took me a while to get it but admiral Kennie for the ad reads did sound cute
I’m Canadian and I still call her Admiral Kennie lol
Me too and I’m South African 😂😂
I am from the same city as Kennie, and I thought she was saying admiral for like a year lol
@@Ilikefrogs..same! I just assumed she was intense about sponsorships
I'm French and every time she says it I just picture her in a military uniform like "Yeah that's Admiral Jennie"! 🤣
Even after this reunion, I still would feel safer with Nick than I would Hannah.
yep
Nick wouldn’t be able to protect you as he can’t protect himself. Nick a faker.
@@Adamtendo_player_1you’re right. Big back Hannah could beat up an army of men.
Nick exercised a lot of constraint. Hannah would’ve caught all hands and feet if she treated me that way idc. As a woman in no way shape or form would I let a male version of a Hannah EVER belittle and disparage me like that! Like the level of vitriol one can have towards their own significant other is wilddd. Like at that point if you don’t like me and you’re so cruel to me then why are you with me still?? GTFO
She's high in narcissism. Not good people to be around.
It's VERY suspicious that the girl who claims she is super direct, was not direct about what she heard. Hmm 🤔👀
Marissa gave a Nancy! Nancy went harder on Cole than Bartiste and Marissa did the exact same thing! Going Harder on Nick. Hannah doubled down and truly has shown Zero growth. I lowkey love Marissa's mom for whispering into Hannah's best friend in the whole wide world's ear!
What happened with Tyler and Ashley! I'm so confused. So she knew everything? How can he is "That family" "Those children" He really distanced himself
And The plot twist I never saw coming, looks like Leo is the most normal.
summed up my thoughts perfectly
Two things:
1. Accusing Nick of only coming on LIB to become famous is WILD. I am sure they all do to some degree but he is not the one fully leaning into the influencer thing, that would be Hannah. He still has a job.
2. Marissa's mom leaning over to "Caidee" whispering "She made you feel like shit for a year" after the whole thing about her and Nick supposedly overstepping by talking to each other made. my. day.
At this point, literally anyone going on love is blind wants to be famous. People that value privacy ain't doing all that
I agree with you about Alex and Tim. He’s like you called me a name so that justifies me not respecting your boundaries. Smdh.
idk what ur gonna say about alex in this video but my GOD whenever she came on screen for a whole two seconds i kept having to rewind it just to see her. she’s so beautiful i have a bad crush i fear 😞
Yes!
I love how Stephen, the guy who said the wind gives him a boner, is now sitting on the couch looking like a philosophy professor at a prestigious university. 💀
I don't gotta watch things anymore. Kennie just tells me about it and makes it much more interesting. Who needs streaming services anymore?
Nobody after they all hiked up their prices and made the “affordable” subscriptions have ads 😔
I’ve only watched this show all the way through 1 time, and I tried it again this season because it seemed so wild. I couldn’t get through it, and officially concluded that I’d MUCH rather have someone like Kennie or Dr. Honda tell me allllllll about it 😂😂😂
stephen did to monica what he did with his ex: "fake" cheats aka just talks and makes sure they see it (hence him not erasing messages or putting a lock on his phone) so THEY can break up with him so he is the victim. dont fall for these obvious ploys. players copy each other just like criminals, they are NOT smart or original. dont let them fool ya!
Agreed. That makes so much sense. Cowards
Its probably irrelevant - but that woman with a kid from season one: She is the season one villain - Jessica! She always wanted Barnett, but did not get him in the end & she was the most tipsy one, I would say👀 (her looks changed so much, I needed to look twice). I know too much about this, I‘m sorry😅 9:13
I wouldn't really call her a villain, she owned up and took accountability many times and fixed her behaviour from what I can see
@@cozycasasmr4510 Totally! I meant it more in terms of type-casting, there is a "villain" in each season, as they want to sprinkle in some drama, and in season one it felt like they put Jessica in that position, too. I'm sure that most people being type-casted in some way or another can be really great and kind people outside of reality tv (or at least are not as "bad" as they seem). I just wanted to draw that association, and because of Jessica famously having that role, I'm sure it's the "quickest" association with "who she is", so to speak.
TO ME it feels like ppl turned on Alex the moment they saw her messy apartment. Like that meant she was somehow a bad person, then combined with the "she put her hands on him" (which was a blatant misuse of that term) ppl are convinced Alex is this horrible human and then that must make Tim her victim. That's become the narrative for every cpl within this fandom;one person is the villain and the other is the victim. Which imo isn't healthy. Instead of approaching these cpls with empathy, it's all judgement and projection. It blows my mind that anyone would see the way Tim speaks and behaves & feel he's a victim of anything besides alpha male podcast and incel forums.
Tbf Alex probably was functionally depressed given what was going on with her life.
honestly a lot of people are just straight up ableist. like, your partner cant take a nap? get a grip. needing naps is such an integral, NECESSARY thing for a ton of neurodivergent, disabled, etc folks. like maybe take a step back and dont see someone not focusing on you for a second as a personal slight. wild
seriously!!!
This here!
girl, the auto captions said admiral instead of ad roll for forever. don’t blame us lol
AD is allegedly in a relationship with Ollie from LIB UK from meeting on the next season of Perfect Match- sleuthing fans have matched up their trip in London from their IG story / post backgrounds so she can’t say more under NDA
I thought Ollie is dating Sharlotte?! Damn, I just can't keep up with all the behind the scenes drama!
I just knew her silence was a tragedy. RIP Ashley’s common sense, it left when the ring came in
honestly merch with admiral kennie with a little cute navy cap on would be super cute!! You could have your fur baby in your arms too.
Season 8 is gonna be in Minneapolis, and as someone who lives in Minneapolis, the dating options here are a level of bananas that I don't think the mainstream has ever seen. Some stuff will be familiar, but they don't call us "The Land of 10,000 Bottoms" for nothing.
I'm not watching any more after this season. These people are making me 🤢
Excuse me the land of WHAT 💀
Damn, can't wait 😂
@@emhu2594 Same. It was all too much with the Tyler situation and seeing these men playing in these womens' faces. I don't want to watch that anymore, especially for black women.
@@P0rk_Sinigang Basically they are all losers lol. But like you COULD interpret it another way 😂😂
“Grenade” is actually something I remember learning from watching jersey shore lol. So I think you haven’t heard it because it’s older and no one says out anymore, not because it’s new. Urban dictionary says “The solitary ugly girl always found with a group of hotties. If the grenade doesn't get any action, then neither does anyone else.”
I hate that this word exists, I’m just telling you what it means lol.
KENNIE!! I AM IN THE MIDDLE IF WATCHING THE REUNION RIGHT NOW. AND I AM HEATED.
Tyler & Ashley got a court date on the 15th of Nov about "those kids." A hot mess. Everyone is a hot mess. A.D. is supposedly seeing Ollie... I think they are gonna be on The Perfect Match.
Oop
Marissa was def projecting her issues of Ramses and her mom onto Nick and that’s why she went so hard on him. Her mom throughout the reunion was very much like when the villain makes good points 🥴. I will not forget how her mom told Ramses how Marissa has been fucked over by the men in her life (dad, step father etc.) and it’s like WHO BROUGHT THOSE MEN INTO HER LIFE THEN hmmmm??
Garrett and Taylor were highkey side eyeing EVERYONE and it was hilarious
Imagine being one of the babies of the successful couples. When they've grown up, they can watch how their parents fell in love on TV. And they can claim the title Blind Love Baby or something.
last time I was this early, we still thought SK was a good guy
Same 😭
Ramses threw nick under the bus about the grenade comment to try and save his progressive feminist image. Stephen did it to try and come off as mature and everyone can just ignore how he cheated 2 days after Mexico. Still doesn’t justify Hannah’s actual abuse.
My man Ramses literally just broke it off with Marissa because he didn't want to use condoms 😂
Kennie's southern accent for her Hannah impression is perfect 😂
Marissa was so ridiculous on this reunion
And had the audacity!!🤦🏾♀️
She's a pick me.
@@weare9770 Aren't "pick me's" women who belittle and talk down on OTHER women for male validation?Marissa is more of a "girl's girl", she stuck up and defended Hannah who was clearly in the wrong.
@@Alter_Ego22you are all so dense and misunderstanding 😂 Marissa literally pointed out that Hannah has issues, but that Nick shouldn't be seen as this amazing person either. And she's absolutely right for that.
Watching Tim convincing Alex's dad to give him his blessing made me cry lol. You could literally see how emotional and important it was for the dad to invite Tim into his family. I turned to my partner and said that I didnt care for them before but now they have to get married, if not for themselves, then for her DAD! And then to find out Tim breaks it off TWO DAYS LATER, like I was so angry at him! I never cared for the parents before because marriage is between the individuals but WTF YOU PLAYED WITH HER DAD'S HEART HOW DARE YOU
They attacked Nick like he was some kind of murderer. They made him a scapegoat. And the real villains teased themselves with some questions and answers. Disgusting Reunion. Marissa and Monica lost a lot in my eyes by defending Hannah so blindly and stupidly.
I agree it was so unfair!
Sorry but I’m not buying the contraception BS. Every single type of contraceptive other than condom has an effect on a womanshealth, but for condoms the only effect is that the guy feels slightly less good. How is this ever even a debate? Why is it so normalized that a guyspleasure is just as important as someone’s literal physical health??
Also there are so many different kinds of condoms out there on the market now, even Kennie mentioned Skyn condoms which I've never heard of! My bf never ever had an issue with condoms and I'm sure it's slightly different from everyone, but you can tell Ramses did not even want to bother trying which is the most frustrating.
14:30 Kenny u ain’t watch Jersey shore?!
Yeah….maybe she’s too young? 🤔🤷🏽♀️🙌🏽 that shit was fkn wild 😝
If she hasn't, I'm gonna need her to and make the viewing experience a series 👀
Grenade from Jersey Shore was also offensive
She keeps saying she's old...but really she's too young! I thought she was like 26-28 so I figured she'd know it
@@PoopHobbitwait I though she was late 20’s….is she not?
Ppl are saying that AD is actually with Ollie from LIB UK because there’s a video or something of them out at dinner. But, you aren’t alone on catching some vibe between Marshal and AD because I’ve seen a few toks wondering if they are a thing or saying that they should be.
With the quicknesssss
Reunion so wild Kennie posted early
Thank you for being so quick!
We learned nothing new. People didn't change, which is sad but expected😶. This reunion made me so angry, though.
I feel like he's too young to have used the term grenade. You know who isn't? Steven.
Babe, you’re so smart! 🕵🏽
It felt like such a Steven thing to say.
Good call!!!
Nick is 30...?
@@bambitnyembo Yup so would have been 14ish when Jersey started was coming out. Prime sports years
"Not the pillow talk 😦" AD 😂
Hearing you talk about Tim makes me feel validated, i got the weirdest vibes from him right away
The biggest plot twist of the season is that Stephen ACTUALLY went to a sleep test.
About the Nick comments behind her back. Stephen is NOT reputable source, he lies alot and even lied about his texts. He said he doesn't delete texts but somehow he deleted his texts about the kinks. And all Ramses did was confirm something was said but not the exact words used. So we don't know if he just said the reveal was underwhelming or called her ugly and a grenade
They used the term "Grenade" a lot back in the Jersey Shore days. Simply put it means ugly or unattractive.
Basically if a hot girl was out with her "unattractive" friend and said she would only go back to the house if her friend came along. A guy would hope one of his roommates would "fall on a grenade" so he could get with the hot girl.
Hannah absolutely manipulated the situation! its such a classic abusive move to make people question the experience of the person they were intentionally hurting, really crappy move. Babe needs therapy
You are the only LIB recap creator that I watch and they are some of my favorite videos of urs!! And I don’t watch the show lol. Plz never stop
i feel like all the pivotal moments happening off screen is indicative of the production's heavy hand this season. they probably knew everything and just tried to spice things up
Jessica from S1 looks totally different to the point I needed them to name her to remember her. But good for her. I guess they mean to say: "LIB doesn't totally wreck the lives of participants, see?"
Honestly it was a relief to see how good she was doing considering the amount of hate she got during s1. Now I just need Cole to show up next season’s reunion and show he’s doing great too.
Congrats to Bliss and Zach! They do look so legitimately happy, I hope they keep finding joy with each other and their kid!
And I do hope AD ends up in a good place too, whether it's with Marshall (I saw that lean at 20:21...) or someone else or no one. Girl has been through so much. (I did chuckle to see her and Nancy on the same couch, like yeah I bet the two of you unfortunately have a lot to commiserate over...)
I totally agree about the Tim/ Alex situation. He's an agitator.
I saw AD and Marshall too! He was about sitting in her lap the entire time
I'm here for Admiral Kennie merch!
0:28 Some creators get the episodes in advance from Netflix - if you ever do another commentary on one of these shows maybe you could get them in advance too?
A lot of people reacted to her taking a nap because we didn’t have all of the information. Tim was obviously being disingenuous about the nap and the dishes situations.