One fun part is that since the territory of a worm can be up to 400 square kilometers, assuming Arrakis is roughly earth-sized, and Worms only live on 80% of its surface, that means there is ~400 million square kilometers of worm-inhabited land or about 1 million worms on Arrakis. It also means that wherever you go in the desert, you are never more than 30 kilometers (or 18 miles) away from a worm.
I really liked the 1984 version when the worms appeared and there's lightning coming from their faces, so epic. The new versions are still dope and actually more terrifying because their mouths are just a massive black hole staring at you.
As much hate that David Lynch's 1984 film version of Dune receives it still holds up as a really well made movie. The performances were great, the action, the sets and costume designs were all excellent.
a lot doesnt hold up, especially thanks to the new movies. its bad by all standards on cgi at points, and it really is a story meant for now. lynch ruined what couldve been even bigger movies@@clit_niblr0375
There is legend of a dynasty hidden on arrakis who guard the universe from the monsters that lurk beneath the sand. They are siech gummer lead by their leader called Burt
Frank created a fascinating and unique organism. Hell, the whole ecology is fascinating. I always wondered exactly _who_ brought the sandtrout to Arrakis, and for what purpose. They can form their own, entirely self-contained ecosystem which is something we don't see in life here on Earth. Personally, I think they were deliberately designed in a lab somewhere eons before Dune, although why you'd want to do this to a planet I don't know. Maybe it was a primitive attempt at terraforming. Find a planet that has water but no breathable atmosphere (these could be pretty common according to some studies on exoplanets), introduce sandtrout, and in a few thousand years you have a planet that's inhospitable as hell but you can survive on, as in you can breathe without a suit
So the worms would be intended to terraform a Stage-0 planet into a Stage-1. I like that, but what was the next step, cause that's still a long way from a Stage-4 (hospitable) much less a Stage-5 (earth like) or a Stage-6 (tailored environments, so called gaia worlds). Fascinating.
@@Endless_Jaguar Warning, wall of text incoming here lol... So the idea is to just gain a foothold on the environmentally hostile world. While the resulting climate would be barely inhabitable (as we see on Arrakis as of book 1) and not able to support a large population, it would still provide a significant advantage to would-be terraformers. The ability to move around at will without a pressure suit or really any breathing apparatus cannot be understated. It would allow in-situ resource exploitation and construction of further terraforming equipment on a scale that'd be impossible if you're confined to domes and pressurized vehicles You can start moving people to the planet to serve as a labor force, and they can then use other methods to make the world more habitable. In fact it is subtly implied that was the plan, but events elsewhere in the empire put a stop to it, followed by spice being discovered; at that point the worms become essential to interstellar travel, and the planet has to stay at level-0 for civilization to function But anyway, we know that it takes millennia for the worms to do their work. They are essentially doing what submarines do when submerged for long periods, but instead of using electrolysis to generate O2 they are using their unique physiology. What's so cool about them is that the water isn't all destroyed (well, converted), much of it is sequestered by the sandtrout so it would be available for later use. So the next step would be gathering this water as the Fremen did, while at the same time building satellites in orbit that can user either some kind of fancy sci-fi EM field (what Leto did in the book IIRC) or sun shades to alter the influx of energy from the star to the surface, and if need be adjusting their orbits (or sticking them at appropriate lagrange points) to create a 24 hour day/night cycle. Drought resistant flora can also be propagated, as the Fremen also did to anchor the flow of sand and gradually create "islands" if you will of more water-rich land in the desert, which can be expanded over time along with more temperate flora that provide desirable attributes and the appropriate microbes The biggest downside of this that I can think of (and I'd argue we definitely see this in Dune) is mission creep. This method of terraforming is neither fast nor easy. It takes thousands of years and requires serious commitment and resource diversion for that entire period to work, yet people do not live that long so over time the original plan could be distorted and crucial information/context may take on different meaning. This is a common sci-fi trope (If you've played the Homeworld games, you'll see the similarities here) and for good reason, it's true to human nature. Now, this could also be a benefit because if this grand plan evolves into a religion like it did with the Fremen, people will see it through to the end even without fully understanding or remembering the past or the task at hand One last thing; I remember reading somewhere that the origin of the first book was Frank Herbert doing some research on desert ecology, specifically erosion and the plants that can be used to halt it, or at least slow it down. So it could very well be that he was thinking along these lines when he wrote the book and thought up the sandworms. I doubt we'll ever know now, but the what-ifs here are fascinating!
Hey Niyat, just wanted to say a massive thanks for all the Dune content you've been uploading these past few months. By my own admission, I was initially somewhat overwhelmed by the depth and complexity of the lore, so your uploads have not only helped me understand but also further my enjoyment of both the movies and the graphic novels. Great job as ever, mate 👍
Flash fact! if you're a fan of Fatboy Slim and listen to "Weapon of Choice", This lyric, "Walk without rhythm, it won't attract the worm." is a reference to this.
Thanks you so much for posting so much dune content. I'm currently reading the whole series, right now reading God Emperor Of Dune. The lore is massive! Your videos help a lot. Keep it up!
My favorite fan-fiction idea was the concept of Sandworms as avatars of transdimensional creatures. Similar to how Calebans are described in Herbert's "Whipping Star". It would explain their existence in a universe that has no true "aliens" as well as the strange effects of Spice Melange produced during decomposition of their physical bodies. It would also explain their violent reaction to Holtzmann field, which disrupts the time-space continuum.
@@DimitrisVi I have not seen the movie, but in the books at least, Dune is full of living species. Starting with Muad'Dib, the mouse Paul gets his name from.
@@etherstrip The origin of the sandworms is a mystery. It's never explained where they came from. In the Dune universe there aren't any "aliens". All the humanoids evolved from humans for one reason or the other and the creatures are from earth or the result of experimentation. The AIs in the later books have their origins also in humanity. For the sandworms though we don't have an origin.
@@DimitrisVi I have only read Frank Herbert's works. Brian's I tried but it really did not live up to expectations and I consider they are no more than a fanfic. That leaves my Dune universe with much less explanations and much more mysteries.
I love all of the Dune videos you’ve done. My parents read the books but I could never find the time to dig into them. You helped me digest the story and aspects of the books but by bit and I love it. Keep up the great work dude!
The one thing you cannot disparage about the 1984 version was the quality of the acting. Jurgen Procnow, Patrick Stewart, Max Von Sydow, Jose Ferrer, Sting, Sean Young all extremely talented actors.
The idea that they generate their own food answers the most obvious plot hole in the Worm- how such a large creature could ever find enough food to power its movement through the sand.
I read a bit more about the sandworms. Even if they can "generate their own food", it probably won't be enough. At this point, I rather imagine them having Evangelion S2 Engine. Problem solved.
That actually makes less sense. That would essentially make the sandworms perpetual motion machines, able to spontaneously reduce entropy in a system without exploiting gravity or some other non-polar force.
Super awesome video! I've been a huge Dune fan since I first discovered the books and then later David Lynch's Dune and I enjoy learning all I can about it. I am really looking forward to the second half of the new Dune movie. The first part was so amazing. I was very apprehensive at first but they did an outstanding job on it. It would be cool if they kept going and expanded further into all the other books and lore. But whatever they do it'll be awesome. Long live the fighters!!
"It's the slow spoon that stirs the coffee." Hmmm, I got that wrong. "Where there is sugar & creamer, there is always coffee, always." Hmmm I got that wrong to. "For he is the Baristas Haderach." Darn it I got that wrong as well.
Dune Encyclopedia canon isn't necessarily considered 'true' to canon - the in-universe lore is that it's 'written' by various historians and is thus full of wild guesses, accidental inaccuracies and even deliberate misinformation for political reasons. It's fun to read, and elaborates on a lot of the details that aren't covered in FH's novels, but I would have used a big ol' caveat when using it as a reference for anything. FYI the real canon is that they start as a microorganism stage called Sandplankton (which the adult worms also sometimes eat). The Sandplankton live in the sand, eating spice as they grow into the Sandtrout. Then, the Sandtrout gather water together into a pre-spice mass. Once enough water is gathered, an explosive reaction occurs, during which groups of Sandtrout bind together and become Little Makers, or juvenile worms, often used for the Water of Life ceremony. This reaction also creates the Spice found in a Spice Blow (like the one that takes out Liet-Kynes). The Little Maker worms grow, and grow, and grow, slowly becoming behemoths. Once the Giant Worms become old and big enough, they reproduce by dissolving into millions of those microscopic Sandplankton, thus starting the cycle again.
Source: God-Emperor of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune by Frank Herbert (aka you can't use the argument that the Brian/K Anderson prequels don't count as this is all Frank-canon)
That doers make far more sense than eating the females. Such a giant 1000 year old worm dying in a single reproduction after which many die in the explosion doesn't ring true.
No wonder I didn't understand the Dune movie 40 years ago. I'm all about science. Even went to med school for years. But this much data from a scifi story is crazy thorough .
Couldn't agree more, mate. Give the graphic novels a go as they are a joy to read. Although it's cheaper on Kindle/e-reader, I paid a little extra for the hard cover printed versions which was well worth it. The artwork by Raúl Allên and Patricia Martin is stunning.
You know what, I'm going to order some of the books on eBay. These videos have really made my interest much greater. Thanks for your recommendation to dive in.
Niyat I was hoping you could do one (maybe more than one) about the video game series Little Nightmares. I've played it a couple of times but I'm still a bit confused about the story and the history of Number Six. Keep up the great work. Your Dune series inspired me to pick up the first book.
I thought the way they did the sand worms in the new Dune was actually very excellent and quite terrifying indeed. I was concerned that I'd look too fake or too monsterous, but they did a great job with it.
Touching on what resident elect said I knew that dune was a vast universe as far as the lore behind everything I just didn't realize how vast. I realize that there are multiple books that Frank put out but I didn't bother to read any of them due to the fact that the one is just so intense that I was like that's a lot of books and there's so many universes I already follow, so thank you so much for diving deep into the Dune universe and all of its lore the fact that Bene Gesserit have such an intense backstory and their lower is so intense and it's so methodical and there's so much of it I didn't even know where to start until you whittle it down and to put out a 20-minute video is the greatest shit in the universe I have been following your channel for years now I love all the work you do you saved me so much time and energy on doing my own research cuz I'm a movie connoisseur but I just find myself working- living life and not having time to deep dive that stuff and so watching your videos just catching me up with all the stuff I've ever wanted to know. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. I look forward to many many more of your videos and I love that you take surveys to that's super cool cuz it really helps you narrow down what your audience is looking for. So again thank you so so much.
I do love Makers of the deep desert, also love all the videos of Dune it is my favourite book series and I’m glad that people like you are showing the layers that this series has. Thanks for the amazing content keep it up 👍
It's quite sad we never learn where Sandworms came from. Considering how incredibly unique they are, and how precious of a resource they provide, and how slow evolution generally is, I think it's quite likely they were engineered. Personally I really like the theory that Sandworms were created by Erasmus from the future. Erasmus throughout his entire existence liked to meddle in genetics, and after the death of Leto II he also had the goal of creating his own version of Kwizats Haderach. And Erasmus from the future was aware and able to utilise tachyons, since he and Omnius tried to catch Ithaca in tachyon net. Tachyons are particles that theoretically could break flow of time and travel faster than light. What if future Erasmus realised the only way to create a genuine Kwizats Haderach was to introduce Spice Melange to Arrakis, so he engineered Sandworms, and using some tachyon device sent them back in time to Dune? By the end of the story Erasmus and Omnius are basically gods anyway, it's probably in the realm of possibility they could manipulate time in some way.
I´m sooooo glad that the issue of worms = no water was actually solved in-story. The fact there was a plot point of ´desertification of whole planets is totally cool because it gives us fuel for space travel!´ really, really, REALLY rubbed me the wrong way...
@@iliacdeleon1065 no they would be fine and convert subnautica to a desert world. Also there is a version of sandworms that gets made that are waterworms
@@callumprice1710 how would they turn subnautica into a desert planet? And I imagine those waterworks are giant bobbit worms that either swim in the open ocean near the abyss or submerge themselves in the ground to ambush anything that passes by
@@iliacdeleon1065 uhh the full explaination is too long but basically the sandtrout multiply like crazy and seal all the water away in pockets deep underground. And no the water worms are just swimming around in the water eating shit. The water worms also produce like SUPER refined spice but its worse because of this.
I was looking for a movie to watch today bc it's a snow day and I didn't have school. I came across this video and decided to watch dune and now I'm hooked. I love the desert in anything it's just my favorite place in terms of history and just looks. I can't wait for part 2.
The mouth of the sandworm is 80m wide. To give you perspective, the statue of liberty and it's base are about 93m tall. Yea, that's how big the adult sandworms are.
Been trying to make a sandworm 3D model in Blender according to the exact descriptions and dimensions from the books. Interestingly a sandworm that is 400 m long and around 80 m diameter mouth is a lot more stubby-looking than I imagined. It basically has the shape of a maggot or grub. It also has me wondering how long their teeth should actually be. In the books, crysknives are only 20 cm long. So are they made from the tips of the teeth broken off, or from young worms, or around the actual length of the adult teeth?
With the sheer size if the worms' nervous systems as well as the volume of sp8ce they touched, the worms should have had consciousness enough to fold space themselves!
"The ocean is a desert with it's life underground and the perfect disguise above. Under her cities lies a heart full of sound but the humans will give no love."
I think the sandworms are an engineered lifeform. The fact that their waste product, the spice melange, is such a useful substance for humanity cannot be a coincidence of natural evolution, _someone_ wanted those worms to make that stuff.
It is possible they are a natural species but yes. Some unknown society introduce them into our corner of the galaxy as to develop spice deposits possible for us.
I have a question. I've only seen the movie btw (2021 version). If spice is only found on Arakis, and spice is the only way to travel the universe, how did humans get there in the first place?
Spice is not the only way to travel but Spice made faster-than-light travel safer. Large amounts of Spice gave Spacing Guild Navigators prescience and are able to plot safe routes through space. The Spacing Guild has monopoly of space travel at the events of Dune and thus can be said that Spice is the "only" way to travel in space. Technically, there's also conventional space travel but it takes an extreme amount time to reach any meaningful distance.
@aicragej Sounds like spice is kinda like "flash" from andromeda. If you've ever seen the show you'll know what I mean. Thanks for the info. I loved the movie but it was difficult to understand the relationships between the great houses and who the sardaukar were and such. I plan on reading the books this summer when I go on vacation. Perhaps you could answer one other question: I know that Paul goes on to lead the fremen in a crusade and they take over the galaxy. Does the book ever explain why they allowed the harkonnen to stay on their planet? If they're the best fighters in the galaxy, why let them steal their spice?
@@Gandalf1232 No worries. The Dune Universe is quite complicated. I only fully read Dune and Dune Messiah, so unfortunately, I am not sure about your second question. Though I would like to double check with you. The Harkonnen are not considered the best fighters, the Sardaukar were. They were the Emperor's household troops. Maybe it confused you because it is a plot point that the Emperor secretly lent House Harkonnen Sardaukar troops for the invasion of Arrakis. They were in Harkonnen uniforms but their fighting skill and style is so well-known that anyone could recognize them even in disguise. I really recommend reading at least the first book, Dune. I really enjoyed it. I'm sorry can't answer your second question.
Faster than light travel either requires prescience (psychic powers) to plot a course through space, or artificial intelligent computers to do so. Otherwise you'll hit meteors and stuff at FTL speeds. Since outrunning light itself, you're going too fast to 'see' stuff in your way, so you need one of those two unconventional methods to predict what's going to be in your path. At the time of Dune, we can no longer use artificial intelligence because advanced computers were banned in the Butlerian Jihad. At one time humanity used AI to colonize space, but no longer. AI is banned , so the only option left is prescience. So FTL travel remains possible, but only through prescience, which is only possible through Spice!
paul at some point (in the 2nd book i think, otherwise the 3rd) that the sandworms are almost to perfectly addictive to humanity. since the tleilax at some point develop synthetic spice i think it's implied the tleilax created the sandworms which i don't think is entirely beyond their skills since they were already well known as geneticists and cloners at the start of the butlarian jihad.
There's a good reason why only a tiny portion of the Dune universe was ever made into movies. That reason being, most of it is so strange it puts Lovecraft to shame, and no studio executive in his right mind would touch it with a ten foot pole wearing a hazmat suit.
If squeezed they release a small amount of green liquid which can stave of death from dehydration, but is not related to spice or spice assense in any way. No energy boost. Same thing as juice from a sugar cane or water from coconut. Eventually you’ll need water water, but if you’re dying of thirst the sand work juice Will help. Besides that, good a
I really miss the lightning and the internal fire from the newer movie... I kinda hope they bring them back in part 2, but I sadly doubt it. Which sucks, because it was an awesome biological addition that added to their almost supernatural status to the Fremen.
When God's feces are the most important resource in the galaxy and that resource is important because it's a drug that makes FTL travel possible by making a ship's navigate so high he can find his way through hyperspace.
"What would you do if your ornithopter went down out here?" "You wouldn't wanna go down out here." "No shit Dr. Kines, I wouldn't want to crash anywhere. I'm asking what I would do in the desert specifically." -Muad'Dib
Their dimensions seem off. At 400m long, 80m mouth, and 100m at their thickest, (even assuming their mouth stretched when opening to its full size) that would mean they’re only 4 times longer than they are wide. They wouldn’t be giant snake-like creatures. They’d be more like massive chubby leeches.
I’ve only got like 100 pages left of the 1st Dune book. Do we know if the part 2 movie will be the 2nd half of the book or jumping ahead to Dune Messiah? Which I haven’t read yet!!
Dune part 2 filming is finish, it is currently still in production but will be released around Nov. 3rd. Messiah has not been confirm but is the shortest novel and is arguably the easiest to adapt to film.
@@jordantucker9799 I knew they finished I’m just hoping they won’t do a time skip over most of the big stuff in the later half of book 1. Like Paul learning he’s now responsible for Jamis’s wives and sons. Then of course the sacred water thing with Jessica
@@nerdwatch1017 Well Jamis's wife and sons may be left out cause they only really made a one time appearance. Though the Water of Life is an very important event in the Duneverse.
I like to think the worms are engineered to mine the spice that is far below the surface. the worms are able to burrow kilometers deep and eat the spice, then the come to the surface and poop it out. The reason the worms make sense is because the conditions are too harsh to dig miles deep and the spice is spread out over vast areas.
Where did you get all this cool specific sciencey info about worms? Is it frank herbert lore or extended universe from his son? Not as good as frank, but that’s saying his son isn’t as good as the greatest sci-fi writer of all time: or at least the writer with the best sci-fi series. Whether isn’t frank or his son, did you cobble this all together from many books or is there an encyclopedia of dune or whatever ? Great video thank!
One fun part is that since the territory of a worm can be up to 400 square kilometers, assuming Arrakis is roughly earth-sized, and Worms only live on 80% of its surface, that means there is ~400 million square kilometers of worm-inhabited land or about 1 million worms on Arrakis. It also means that wherever you go in the desert, you are never more than 30 kilometers (or 18 miles) away from a worm.
That's crazy
Potentially 1 million male adult worms.
Wtf!!! Thank you for doing the math but I wish you won’t have, ignorance is bliss 😂😂😂
Not enough water. They're gonna kill themselves.
and THAT is how you can have enough spice to enable galactic travel on a gigantic scale
The fact that Herbert developed biochemistry for the sandworm is next-level nerd.
That's not biochemistry technically.
@@LeNoLi. It is until you reveal otherwise
It is technically.
I think he got the basis of the idea from fungal ecosystems. Definitely super nerd, but gotta love the super nerd shit.
I really liked the 1984 version when the worms appeared and there's lightning coming from their faces, so epic. The new versions are still dope and actually more terrifying because their mouths are just a massive black hole staring at you.
The danworm teeth likely act as some form of balleen, and the lightning in the origional was caused by static electricity from its vast size.
As much hate that David Lynch's 1984 film version of Dune receives it still holds up as a really well made movie. The performances were great, the action, the sets and costume designs were all excellent.
“Bless the Maker and His water.
Bless the coming and going of Him.
May His passage cleanse the world.
May He keep the world for His people. ”
The lightning from the static of the sand moving is such a nice touch
a lot doesnt hold up, especially thanks to the new movies.
its bad by all standards on cgi at points, and it really is a story meant for now. lynch ruined what couldve been even bigger movies@@clit_niblr0375
Tremors got weird when it went to space
"Broke into the wrong god-damn rec room, didn't you, you bastard?!!"
Bruh lol
Lol fact's
Nah, this is more tame than tremors
There is legend of a dynasty hidden on arrakis who guard the universe from the monsters that lurk beneath the sand. They are siech gummer lead by their leader called Burt
Frank created a fascinating and unique organism. Hell, the whole ecology is fascinating. I always wondered exactly _who_ brought the sandtrout to Arrakis, and for what purpose. They can form their own, entirely self-contained ecosystem which is something we don't see in life here on Earth. Personally, I think they were deliberately designed in a lab somewhere eons before Dune, although why you'd want to do this to a planet I don't know. Maybe it was a primitive attempt at terraforming. Find a planet that has water but no breathable atmosphere (these could be pretty common according to some studies on exoplanets), introduce sandtrout, and in a few thousand years you have a planet that's inhospitable as hell but you can survive on, as in you can breathe without a suit
So the worms would be intended to terraform a Stage-0 planet into a Stage-1. I like that, but what was the next step, cause that's still a long way from a Stage-4 (hospitable) much less a Stage-5 (earth like) or a Stage-6 (tailored environments, so called gaia worlds). Fascinating.
@@Endless_Jaguar Warning, wall of text incoming here lol... So the idea is to just gain a foothold on the environmentally hostile world. While the resulting climate would be barely inhabitable (as we see on Arrakis as of book 1) and not able to support a large population, it would still provide a significant advantage to would-be terraformers. The ability to move around at will without a pressure suit or really any breathing apparatus cannot be understated. It would allow in-situ resource exploitation and construction of further terraforming equipment on a scale that'd be impossible if you're confined to domes and pressurized vehicles
You can start moving people to the planet to serve as a labor force, and they can then use other methods to make the world more habitable. In fact it is subtly implied that was the plan, but events elsewhere in the empire put a stop to it, followed by spice being discovered; at that point the worms become essential to interstellar travel, and the planet has to stay at level-0 for civilization to function
But anyway, we know that it takes millennia for the worms to do their work. They are essentially doing what submarines do when submerged for long periods, but instead of using electrolysis to generate O2 they are using their unique physiology. What's so cool about them is that the water isn't all destroyed (well, converted), much of it is sequestered by the sandtrout so it would be available for later use. So the next step would be gathering this water as the Fremen did, while at the same time building satellites in orbit that can user either some kind of fancy sci-fi EM field (what Leto did in the book IIRC) or sun shades to alter the influx of energy from the star to the surface, and if need be adjusting their orbits (or sticking them at appropriate lagrange points) to create a 24 hour day/night cycle. Drought resistant flora can also be propagated, as the Fremen also did to anchor the flow of sand and gradually create "islands" if you will of more water-rich land in the desert, which can be expanded over time along with more temperate flora that provide desirable attributes and the appropriate microbes
The biggest downside of this that I can think of (and I'd argue we definitely see this in Dune) is mission creep. This method of terraforming is neither fast nor easy. It takes thousands of years and requires serious commitment and resource diversion for that entire period to work, yet people do not live that long so over time the original plan could be distorted and crucial information/context may take on different meaning. This is a common sci-fi trope (If you've played the Homeworld games, you'll see the similarities here) and for good reason, it's true to human nature. Now, this could also be a benefit because if this grand plan evolves into a religion like it did with the Fremen, people will see it through to the end even without fully understanding or remembering the past or the task at hand
One last thing; I remember reading somewhere that the origin of the first book was Frank Herbert doing some research on desert ecology, specifically erosion and the plants that can be used to halt it, or at least slow it down. So it could very well be that he was thinking along these lines when he wrote the book and thought up the sandworms. I doubt we'll ever know now, but the what-ifs here are fascinating!
@@jakeg3733 Thanks for the explanation. I need to do more research.👍
Wdym fascinating an unique? It’s a worm lmao
I find it incredible how detailed and deep everything was well thought out!
Hey Niyat, just wanted to say a massive thanks for all the Dune content you've been uploading these past few months.
By my own admission, I was initially somewhat overwhelmed by the depth and complexity of the lore, so your uploads have not only helped me understand but also further my enjoyment of both the movies and the graphic novels.
Great job as ever, mate 👍
I got you brother! thanks for tuning in :)
Flash fact! if you're a fan of Fatboy Slim and listen to "Weapon of Choice", This lyric, "Walk without rhythm, it won't attract the worm." is a reference to this.
@alfonso marcos so alternative medication? Nice scam
Not terrible advice overall ; if you keep your actions unpredictable, it becomes much harder to catch you out.
There has been some absolutely amazing art done of the sandworms of Dune. Thank you for including so many
Thanks you so much for posting so much dune content. I'm currently reading the whole series, right now reading God Emperor Of Dune. The lore is massive! Your videos help a lot. Keep it up!
Hope you enjoy it!
Dude, you're in for a treat! Definitely continue on with Heretics of Dune, then Chapterhouse Dune.
@@filmcomicsexplained thanks so much! I love it :)
@@quaker1874 you bet! Can't wait 😊
My favorite fan-fiction idea was the concept of Sandworms as avatars of transdimensional creatures. Similar to how Calebans are described in Herbert's "Whipping Star". It would explain their existence in a universe that has no true "aliens" as well as the strange effects of Spice Melange produced during decomposition of their physical bodies. It would also explain their violent reaction to Holtzmann field, which disrupts the time-space continuum.
That's really interesting. In that case the Fremen would actually be correct about them being Gods or the manifestation of God
Sandworms are possibly the only alien organism in the Dune universe. Their origins are unknown.
No
@@Teapotman2 ?
@@DimitrisVi I have not seen the movie, but in the books at least, Dune is full of living species. Starting with Muad'Dib, the mouse Paul gets his name from.
@@etherstrip The origin of the sandworms is a mystery. It's never explained where they came from. In the Dune universe there aren't any "aliens". All the humanoids evolved from humans for one reason or the other and the creatures are from earth or the result of experimentation. The AIs in the later books have their origins also in humanity. For the sandworms though we don't have an origin.
@@DimitrisVi I have only read Frank Herbert's works. Brian's I tried but it really did not live up to expectations and I consider they are no more than a fanfic. That leaves my Dune universe with much less explanations and much more mysteries.
Who knew Sandworms and Anakin Skywalker had something in common.
Though the worms are better written characters, with more depth and verisimilitude, than Ep 1-3 Anakin.
@@pfthorin4733 Sandworms have more depth, I see what you did there 😏
@@thomasa8814 😳I didn't.... until you pointed it out... 😱😂🤣
Anakin didn't like sand though... it's coarse and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere!
Oooh perfect way to start my weekend! Been wanting a good sandstorm lore video
Let’s go!
I love all of the Dune videos you’ve done. My parents read the books but I could never find the time to dig into them. You helped me digest the story and aspects of the books but by bit and I love it. Keep up the great work dude!
That's awesome to hear brother!
Niyat, all your recent Dune uploads is getting me pumped for Part 2 dude!
Hell yeah!
The one thing you cannot disparage about the 1984 version was the quality of the acting. Jurgen Procnow, Patrick Stewart, Max Von Sydow, Jose Ferrer, Sting, Sean Young all extremely talented actors.
Niat you never disappoint! Thank you for posting another video about DUNE!
My pleasure!!
I just watched this movie. I've read the books, but the cinematography was something else
No idea what's going on but your voice brings me comfort
The idea that they generate their own food answers the most obvious plot hole in the Worm- how such a large creature could ever find enough food to power its movement through the sand.
Only the sandtrouts generate their own food, not the sandworms.
I read a bit more about the sandworms. Even if they can "generate their own food", it probably won't be enough. At this point, I rather imagine them having Evangelion S2 Engine. Problem solved.
That actually makes less sense. That would essentially make the sandworms perpetual motion machines, able to spontaneously reduce entropy in a system without exploiting gravity or some other non-polar force.
I mean yeah, it fixes a plot hole in the same way as "I said it works so it works"
Keep these dune videos coming i am invested.
That's the plan G!
The giant sandworms was the only part of Dune 1984 that I even liked or understood. They also ate the guy that played Bluto on Robin William's Popeye.
That last scene was so bittersweet. Terrifying to think of what would happened to be swallowed by one. How easy it would be
Super awesome video! I've been a huge Dune fan since I first discovered the books and then later David Lynch's Dune and I enjoy learning all I can about it. I am really looking forward to the second half of the new Dune movie. The first part was so amazing. I was very apprehensive at first but they did an outstanding job on it. It would be cool if they kept going and expanded further into all the other books and lore. But whatever they do it'll be awesome.
Long live the fighters!!
"It's the slow spoon that stirs the coffee." Hmmm, I got that wrong.
"Where there is sugar & creamer, there is always coffee, always." Hmmm I got that wrong to.
"For he is the Baristas Haderach." Darn it I got that wrong as well.
Your videos had help me a lot since i started to look more into Dune's lore, keep the good work!
Yet another world class video from Film Comics Explained. The depth of knowledge conveyed along with the high quality production is simply phenomenal.
Dune Encyclopedia canon isn't necessarily considered 'true' to canon - the in-universe lore is that it's 'written' by various historians and is thus full of wild guesses, accidental inaccuracies and even deliberate misinformation for political reasons. It's fun to read, and elaborates on a lot of the details that aren't covered in FH's novels, but I would have used a big ol' caveat when using it as a reference for anything.
FYI the real canon is that they start as a microorganism stage called Sandplankton (which the adult worms also sometimes eat). The Sandplankton live in the sand, eating spice as they grow into the Sandtrout. Then, the Sandtrout gather water together into a pre-spice mass. Once enough water is gathered, an explosive reaction occurs, during which groups of Sandtrout bind together and become Little Makers, or juvenile worms, often used for the Water of Life ceremony. This reaction also creates the Spice found in a Spice Blow (like the one that takes out Liet-Kynes). The Little Maker worms grow, and grow, and grow, slowly becoming behemoths. Once the Giant Worms become old and big enough, they reproduce by dissolving into millions of those microscopic Sandplankton, thus starting the cycle again.
Source: God-Emperor of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune by Frank Herbert (aka you can't use the argument that the Brian/K Anderson prequels don't count as this is all Frank-canon)
That doers make far more sense than eating the females. Such a giant 1000 year old worm dying in a single reproduction after which many die in the explosion doesn't ring true.
I was wondering where the male/female worm thing came from.
Keep up the good job!!!!thanks for all you do!!!😊
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You are so welcome
No wonder I didn't understand the Dune movie 40 years ago. I'm all about science. Even went to med school for years. But this much data from a scifi story is crazy thorough .
Really surprised how much I loved Dune and it's rich Lore, it has made me want to dive into the books.
Couldn't agree more, mate.
Give the graphic novels a go as they are a joy to read.
Although it's cheaper on Kindle/e-reader, I paid a little extra for the hard cover printed versions which was well worth it.
The artwork by Raúl Allên and Patricia Martin is stunning.
Dive away mate. You wont regret it.
You know what, I'm going to order some of the books on eBay. These videos have really made my interest much greater. Thanks for your recommendation to dive in.
Niyat I was hoping you could do one (maybe more than one) about the video game series Little Nightmares. I've played it a couple of times but I'm still a bit confused about the story and the history of Number Six.
Keep up the great work. Your Dune series inspired me to pick up the first book.
I thought the way they did the sand worms in the new Dune was actually very excellent and quite terrifying indeed. I was concerned that I'd look too fake or too monsterous, but they did a great job with it.
Great quality deep dive per your other videos. Thank you.
Touching on what resident elect said I knew that dune was a vast universe as far as the lore behind everything I just didn't realize how vast. I realize that there are multiple books that Frank put out but I didn't bother to read any of them due to the fact that the one is just so intense that I was like that's a lot of books and there's so many universes I already follow, so thank you so much for diving deep into the Dune universe and all of its lore the fact that Bene Gesserit have such an intense backstory and their lower is so intense and it's so methodical and there's so much of it I didn't even know where to start until you whittle it down and to put out a 20-minute video is the greatest shit in the universe I have been following your channel for years now I love all the work you do you saved me so much time and energy on doing my own research cuz I'm a movie connoisseur but I just find myself working- living life and not having time to deep dive that stuff and so watching your videos just catching me up with all the stuff I've ever wanted to know. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. I look forward to many many more of your videos and I love that you take surveys to that's super cool cuz it really helps you narrow down what your audience is looking for. So again thank you so so much.
Love it! Longtime viewer, and you just keep getting better with time. 👍🏻
I do love Makers of the deep desert, also love all the videos of Dune it is my favourite book series and I’m glad that people like you are showing the layers that this series has. Thanks for the amazing content keep it up 👍
A multi neighbour build of a worm covering blocks of backyards would be beyond epic.
You just channeled some serious Sir David Attenborough vibes on this one.
Love the Dune videos.
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More to come!
It's quite sad we never learn where Sandworms came from. Considering how incredibly unique they are, and how precious of a resource they provide, and how slow evolution generally is, I think it's quite likely they were engineered. Personally I really like the theory that Sandworms were created by Erasmus from the future. Erasmus throughout his entire existence liked to meddle in genetics, and after the death of Leto II he also had the goal of creating his own version of Kwizats Haderach. And Erasmus from the future was aware and able to utilise tachyons, since he and Omnius tried to catch Ithaca in tachyon net. Tachyons are particles that theoretically could break flow of time and travel faster than light. What if future Erasmus realised the only way to create a genuine Kwizats Haderach was to introduce Spice Melange to Arrakis, so he engineered Sandworms, and using some tachyon device sent them back in time to Dune? By the end of the story Erasmus and Omnius are basically gods anyway, it's probably in the realm of possibility they could manipulate time in some way.
I´m sooooo glad that the issue of worms = no water was actually solved in-story. The fact there was a plot point of ´desertification of whole planets is totally cool because it gives us fuel for space travel!´ really, really, REALLY rubbed me the wrong way...
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Just one more like! You really are the real deal. Thank you. Going to watch Dune 2 next week.
The Sandworm would probably have nightmares of the water planet form Subnautica given water is dangerous for the worm.
Eeeh.. yes and no. The big worms would die but as the video explains, arrakis USED to be a water planet. The young sandtrout would be fine.
@@callumprice1710 Would the sandtrout adapt or evolve if they were sent to the world subnautica?
@@iliacdeleon1065 no they would be fine and convert subnautica to a desert world.
Also there is a version of sandworms that gets made that are waterworms
@@callumprice1710 how would they turn subnautica into a desert planet? And I imagine those waterworks are giant bobbit worms that either swim in the open ocean near the abyss or submerge themselves in the ground to ambush anything that passes by
@@iliacdeleon1065 uhh the full explaination is too long but basically the sandtrout multiply like crazy and seal all the water away in pockets deep underground. And no the water worms are just swimming around in the water eating shit. The water worms also produce like SUPER refined spice but its worse because of this.
Had no idea that dune had such a canon especially with the sand worm cycles, that's bizarre
I was looking for a movie to watch today bc it's a snow day and I didn't have school. I came across this video and decided to watch dune and now I'm hooked. I love the desert in anything it's just my favorite place in terms of history and just looks. I can't wait for part 2.
The mouth of the sandworm is 80m wide. To give you perspective, the statue of liberty and it's base are about 93m tall. Yea, that's how big the adult sandworms are.
Been trying to make a sandworm 3D model in Blender according to the exact descriptions and dimensions from the books. Interestingly a sandworm that is 400 m long and around 80 m diameter mouth is a lot more stubby-looking than I imagined. It basically has the shape of a maggot or grub. It also has me wondering how long their teeth should actually be. In the books, crysknives are only 20 cm long. So are they made from the tips of the teeth broken off, or from young worms, or around the actual length of the adult teeth?
With the sheer size if the worms' nervous systems as well as the volume of sp8ce they touched, the worms should have had consciousness enough to fold space themselves!
Yes!!! MORE DUNE LORE!!!!
I love how the desert is like an ocean.the worms seam to swim
"The ocean is a desert with it's life underground and the perfect disguise above.
Under her cities lies a heart full of sound but the humans will give no love."
I think the sandworms are an engineered lifeform. The fact that their waste product, the spice melange, is such a useful substance for humanity cannot be a coincidence of natural evolution, _someone_ wanted those worms to make that stuff.
It is possible they are a natural species but yes. Some unknown society introduce them into our corner of the galaxy as to develop spice deposits possible for us.
Just like cows produce milk pretty sure they weren't the result of some sort of engineering
I have a question. I've only seen the movie btw (2021 version).
If spice is only found on Arakis, and spice is the only way to travel the universe, how did humans get there in the first place?
Spice is not the only way to travel but Spice made faster-than-light travel safer. Large amounts of Spice gave Spacing Guild Navigators prescience and are able to plot safe routes through space.
The Spacing Guild has monopoly of space travel at the events of Dune and thus can be said that Spice is the "only" way to travel in space.
Technically, there's also conventional space travel but it takes an extreme amount time to reach any meaningful distance.
@aicragej Sounds like spice is kinda like "flash" from andromeda. If you've ever seen the show you'll know what I mean.
Thanks for the info. I loved the movie but it was difficult to understand the relationships between the great houses and who the sardaukar were and such. I plan on reading the books this summer when I go on vacation.
Perhaps you could answer one other question: I know that Paul goes on to lead the fremen in a crusade and they take over the galaxy. Does the book ever explain why they allowed the harkonnen to stay on their planet? If they're the best fighters in the galaxy, why let them steal their spice?
@@Gandalf1232 No worries. The Dune Universe is quite complicated. I only fully read Dune and Dune Messiah, so unfortunately, I am not sure about your second question.
Though I would like to double check with you. The Harkonnen are not considered the best fighters, the Sardaukar were. They were the Emperor's household troops. Maybe it confused you because it is a plot point that the Emperor secretly lent House Harkonnen Sardaukar troops for the invasion of Arrakis. They were in Harkonnen uniforms but their fighting skill and style is so well-known that anyone could recognize them even in disguise.
I really recommend reading at least the first book, Dune. I really enjoyed it. I'm sorry can't answer your second question.
@aicragej No problem man, I appreciate you taking time out of your day to answer me in the first place. Happy trails friend
Faster than light travel either requires prescience (psychic powers) to plot a course through space, or artificial intelligent computers to do so. Otherwise you'll hit meteors and stuff at FTL speeds.
Since outrunning light itself, you're going too fast to 'see' stuff in your way, so you need one of those two unconventional methods to predict what's going to be in your path.
At the time of Dune, we can no longer use artificial intelligence because advanced computers were banned in the Butlerian Jihad. At one time humanity used AI to colonize space, but no longer.
AI is banned , so the only option left is prescience. So FTL travel remains possible, but only through prescience, which is only possible through Spice!
paul at some point (in the 2nd book i think, otherwise the 3rd) that the sandworms are almost to perfectly addictive to humanity. since the tleilax at some point develop synthetic spice i think it's implied the tleilax created the sandworms which i don't think is entirely beyond their skills since they were already well known as geneticists and cloners at the start of the butlarian jihad.
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There's a good reason why only a tiny portion of the Dune universe was ever made into movies. That reason being, most of it is so strange it puts Lovecraft to shame, and no studio executive in his right mind would touch it with a ten foot pole wearing a hazmat suit.
If squeezed they release a small amount of green liquid which can stave of death from dehydration, but is not related to spice or spice assense in any way. No energy boost. Same thing as juice from a sugar cane or water from coconut. Eventually you’ll need water water, but if you’re dying of thirst the sand work juice
Will help. Besides that, good a
Hey Niyat! I would LOVE if you could explore the Expanse world! The Protomolecule virus and the Rings… it’s my favorite show and book series!
My dumb a** has been thinking they are called "sand Trout" like the fish lmfao
Yeah, your quite the dumbass alright lmfao
1:45 the captions 🤣 "...the butt layering jihad..."
To think that "water is life' yet this can kill the sandworms.
Spice is not the waste of the worm. It is the waste of the sand trout converting water. The sand worms would eat the spice along with sand plankton.
I really miss the lightning and the internal fire from the newer movie... I kinda hope they bring them back in part 2, but I sadly doubt it. Which sucks, because it was an awesome biological addition that added to their almost supernatural status to the Fremen.
where ist this beautiful picture at 4:25 from?
i can't find it anywhere😍
LFG NEW DUNE POST
That’s not just any Sandworn, that’s an Alaskan Bull Worm!
Possibly your best video
Everytime I saw that creature in dune I keep being reminded of the creature worm in lost plant freaking worm was tough to kill
The artwork is just incredible!
Bless The Maker and his water.
Just finished Dune 2. Absolute fire 🔥
When God's feces are the most important resource in the galaxy and that resource is important because it's a drug that makes FTL travel possible by making a ship's navigate so high he can find his way through hyperspace.
Frank Herbert was a true master of world-building… Hats off!
These worms are gigantic and terrifying.
Awesome synopsis of sandworm history.
Question: how do the sandworms move?
They don't wiggle like worms or snakes.
I serve no master but *Shai-Halud!*
Such great videos. Never stop pls!
Rebingeing your Dune videos again because 🥇
The spice is also in a star wars show but a small very mention.
Please do a videos on “the professional” one of my favorite movies ever, would love to hear your thoughts
"What would you do if your ornithopter went down out here?"
"You wouldn't wanna go down out here."
"No shit Dr. Kines, I wouldn't want to crash anywhere. I'm asking what I would do in the desert specifically."
-Muad'Dib
if water is fatal to the sandworms, isnt eating humans or other water containing animals a problem for them?
Probably takes a lot of water to kill one.
Come on though mate you got to admit that the Paul riding a sandworm scene in the Lynch film was kind of hilarious.
Hehe
I love the Lynch film, and admit nothing. The whole thing was hilarious. But also incredibly good. But I'm a David Lynch fan anyway.
@@pfthorin4733 Agreed.
Whoa whoa whoa that was a bombshell at the end I don't remember letos worms busting out on the sea work.. whaaaat
Always found the sandworms of dune fascinating.
Just realized the picture of the spice blow stage of the worm is the queen leech boss from Resident Evil Outbreak Hospital Level.
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Lovely video as always 😌….. is it possible you do one about the movie Screamers 1995
A very stealthy beast.
Top G content right here
Imagine the amount of microplastics these worms consumed from the spice harvesters, I wonder if that ever affected their organisms
Their dimensions seem off. At 400m long, 80m mouth, and 100m at their thickest, (even assuming their mouth stretched when opening to its full size) that would mean they’re only 4 times longer than they are wide. They wouldn’t be giant snake-like creatures. They’d be more like massive chubby leeches.
400m was the longest recorded as per video but there would be much much larger and longer in the southern parts.
hey, can you guys please do a video on scarecrows fear toxin?
Very well done!
Bouncing off of green koopas comment "tremors 11 the birth of arrakis"
I’ve only got like 100 pages left of the 1st Dune book. Do we know if the part 2 movie will be the 2nd half of the book or jumping ahead to Dune Messiah? Which I haven’t read yet!!
Dune part 2 filming is finish, it is currently still in production but will be released around Nov. 3rd. Messiah has not been confirm but is the shortest novel and is arguably the easiest to adapt to film.
@@jordantucker9799 I knew they finished I’m just hoping they won’t do a time skip over most of the big stuff in the later half of book 1. Like Paul learning he’s now responsible for Jamis’s wives and sons. Then of course the sacred water thing with Jessica
@@nerdwatch1017 Well Jamis's wife and sons may be left out cause they only really made a one time appearance. Though the Water of Life is an very important event in the Duneverse.
Keep up the dune content.
I like to think the worms are engineered to mine the spice that is far below the surface. the worms are able to burrow kilometers deep and eat the spice, then the come to the surface and poop it out. The reason the worms make sense is because the conditions are too harsh to dig miles deep and the spice is spread out over vast areas.
Where did you get all this cool specific sciencey info about worms? Is it frank herbert lore or extended universe from his son? Not as good as frank, but that’s saying his son isn’t as good as the greatest sci-fi writer of all time: or at least the writer with the best sci-fi series. Whether isn’t frank or his son, did you cobble this all together from many books or is there an encyclopedia of dune or whatever ? Great video thank!
Came here to ask the same. I just finished the first book and I can’t wait to read more