Top Ten Sonic Games
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- We close out Sonic Month by talking about the best Sonic games... this should be totally uncontroversial.
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Think of it this way: with Jim Carrey retired from acting, we could indeed have Metal Sonic as a main villain in the movies (unless they do Chaos instead).
He retired? That's a shame.
Wait, he RETIRED?! I mean, kudos for wanting to leave while on top, but...why now? He still has his whole career ahead of him!
@@joinmarch76 as he said "I have enough. I've had enough." And the retirement is stated to only be possible.
It would be cool if they went with Metal Sonic but... he would need to be created by someone, can't be anyone else than Robotnik...! Besides, with the post credit scene from the second movie I think we know where they are going next...!
@@wolfhurricane897 Well, I'll give him points for wanting to retire of his own accord. I DO wish he could stick around for future Sonic movies, though, he was easily one of the best parts of both flicks.
Honestly, even though you were expecting flame wars, this is probably the least problematic sonic list I’ve ever seen. I’d doubt many people would be annoyed. Obvious I disagree with some placements but where they are rn is completely fair
“ARE YOU CRAZY!?”
“Yes, but that’s irrelevant.”
As long as Sonic 3&Knuckles, Sonic Adventure 2, and Sonic Generations are on this list, I'll be completely fine with this list.
Edit: I am satisfied. Personally would put those 3 above Mania, but Mania is a great game so I won't complain.
I am also happy to see some Sonic Colors love after the Sonic fanbase declared it as a bad game in recent years.
It's the port which is B-A-D
@@CybeastID The port isn't good, but people decided to suddenly hate Colors even before the port came out.
@@darienb1127 Fun fact: I missed the dark era. I owned (and liked) Shadow the Hedgehog and then the next game I ever heard anything about was Colors.
The DS version was quite interesting actually, with both a unique set of Special Stages and a *Super Sonic* battle against the corrupted Nega Mother Wisp!
Not sure if it's just me, but the "Shadow possibly being a robot" mystery never made much sense to me when I really thought about it as a kid and the feeling only got worse as I got older and replayed Heroes numerous times. It just feels like one of those thing that could be interesting, but kind of falls apart if you deep dive in Heroes' Story, lmao
Also, Shadow's own game's Last Story pretty much deconfirms it.
To be fair though where Sonic Team is concerned regarding Boom, they had very little if anything to do with the game besides green lighting the designs. From what I remember it was ultimately Sega of Japan forcing Sega of America and Big Red Button to make the game for the Wii U when they planned it for PC and the then next gen consoles just to get out of the Wii U exclusivity contract faster. This caused the developers to scrap a lot of content that was planned just to make the strict deadline. So Sega of Japan repeated their mistake from 06. Iizuka had to pretty much fight the Japan branch just to allow Mania to be greenlit. Given the success of Mania and the lukewarm at best reception to Forces, Sega of Japan after those games’ release decided to move Iizuka to America and let him and the American division have control of how Sonic will be in the future making Forces so far the last time the Japan branch has creative control of the franchise. Even Frontiers coming out is based on what people were giving Sega of America in a survey that came out after Forces. Ian Flynn writing the story and open world gameplay were very common in the surveys, both of which are now happening with Frontiers. I hope for the best with Frontiers and maybe please Sega if it works just keep that style of gameplay and just refine it for future games!
So what you’re saying is we in America now have full control over Sonic and Japan has basicaly abandoned him?
Yeah but Sega decided to not capitalize on Mania's success by greenlighting a sequel, and the developers that made Mania moved on to original projects, so it's still fuck Sega and Sonic Team.
@@zigslotheon JP hasn't abandoned him per say, they still view the franchise as a cash cow. They're just letting the market that actually buys Sonic games have creative control with Iizuka, who worked at both NA and JP Sega, serve as a bridge between the two divisions since he got promoted from head of Sonic Team to head of the franchise as a whole with his move back to America while still serving as head of Sonic Team currently.
@@Kingdom850 I'll admit it was stupid to not make a Mania sequel, but Mania's namesake was that it was to represent how it was made by fans and serves as an anniversary game. So spiritual successor to Mania would be more fitting than a sequel. Headcannon is working on Origins making the 3&K port in the game using Christian's Retro Engine, with mission mode being handled by Sega internally as confirmed by Stealth himself. Aaron Webber before he left for Sega JP did confirm that Sega wasn't done with the Mania devs, so there is hope of them making a wholly original game in Mania's style.
@NocturnusAnime I hope for the future of the Sonic series that this will be a good move by Sega of JP of letting Sega of America have creative control over the blue blur because in my eyes it can’t get worse than Sonic 06, Sonic Boom, and Sonic Forces but if does get worse then everyone here can criticize my comment.
I will die on this hill: *Sonic Chronicles is extremely underrated and is actually a great introductory RPG*
So many good things about the game, I'm genuinely disappointed we can't get a sequel.
I will admit that the game works, but it's just so BORING. The story is barely engaging enough until the end of Chapter 5... out of TEN. The mechanics while functional are tedious and slow, and the final boss spits in the face of everyone who had the patience to get to the end.
I think it's mostly the disillusionment. In 2008, people think "BioWare RPG with Sonic characters," they think of Baldur's Gate, NWN, KOTOR, Jade Empire, and the first Mass Effect (this was 2008, so Dragon Age was on the horizon but not here yet), and they get all kinds of excited. Then it comes out and it's...none of those things.
On its own, Sonic Chronicles might have been just a meh game with a really annoying soundtrack. But put up against BioWare's best? It was going to be doomed no matter what.
@@ingonyama70 You mentioned Jade Empire and Kotor and now I have immediate respect for you. o7
I also liked Sonic Chronicles. Granted it doesn't have the nostalgic appeal that Colors and Unleasged had to me, but I still liked it. And when I first heard about Sonic Forces, I thought that was picking up where Chronicles left off.
Yeah it's overhated imo the cast is pretty good having some great team dark scenes
Sonic Adventure 2 will always be my favorite Sonic game. The ending of that game just hits different.
From one Josh to another, this was a great list and a fun video! 👍
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Sonic Adventure 2 Battle was my very first video game I owned, but my personal favorite is still Sonic Heroes (obviously).
10. Understandable. Plus that game had been re-released on every dang system... twice. Still, a fun time.
9.We so need a Sonic Advance collection in our lives.
8. I have fond memories of the GameCube version. Especially when my friendship with my best friend was starting in junior high.
7. Heroes was awesome. The first Sonic game to go multiplatform and it reignited my passion for Sonic games.
6. Adventure was okay.
5. Rush is another series that deserves a collection or at least a remake.
4. Ultimate was such fun. Had a blast replaying Colors.
3. Ah... It's gonna be so great to play 3 & Knuckles again in Origins.
2. Both versions of Generations were awesome! Talking 3DS version of course.
1. Mania Plus actually topped 3 & Knux as my personal favorite as well. 😁
I really enjoy your Sonic month. I picked a real good time to subscribe to your channel. 😁
The 3DS version of Sonic Generations sucked tho. It wasn't god-awful like the boom games or 06, but it wasn't that great either. More akin to Sonic 4 Episode 2 than anything else. Mediocre but passible.
@@krimsonkatt I agree. Really felt cheap with the level design. I will say though that the final boss in the 3DS verison is actually way better, and the Big Arm remix did not need to go as hard as it does, god damn!
Honestly really fair list. Personally, my favourite Sonic game is still Unleashed. I never had a problem with the Werehog, the friendship-focused story was good and the day stages are untouchable. I haven't played Mania yet, though admittedly I'm not crazy about 2D platformers. I also totally forgot Chronicles existed. Honestly, I don't think it was as bad as much as just weird. I kinda wish we got the chance to at least see where it was going.
Funnily enough, if we were judging the games on story alone, I think my favourite would have to be The Black Knight. Something about that game's themes has never left me, moreso than any other Sonic game.
Currently playing Generations. One thing to note is that the sense of speed isn't always about literal movement.
What paths you take in a stage, how much distance through the level they take over others, the time you have to pick, choose and react to each of them as they come. It all has to be finely tuned.
Which is why Generations and Mania deserved their spots. They have that sense of speed in spades.
Sonic Adventure DX was my first-ever Sonic game. Can confirm, all these years later, it's STILL fun to roam around the Adventure Fields; I'm so thankful that we're getting an open-world Sonic game: I remember thinking back then that I'd just love to play a game that was nothing but this [roaming around a large open field or just exploring a city as the blue blur].
Adventure. DX is just a port (and frankly, after was discovered, I prefer to call the game by its Dreamcast name).
@@ChiefMedicPururu Yeah, I'm aware, and even though I've never played the original I do get the impression it's superior, but Adventure DX was still my first Sonic game regardless and it's still fun to return to to this day. Only thing I'm not a fan of is the way they handled the Chao Gardens, but hey, 2nd time's the charm. ;)
@@bluestreaker9242 "I do get the impression it's superior"
It is.
@@ChiefMedicPururu I wouldn't know, though, since I've never played the original: never owned a Dreamcast, sad to say. :/
did anyone else notice he said victor the crocodile? It made me laugh.
13:07 in the words of Walter White: you’re goddamn right. Sonic Rush was my introduction to the series and still is one of my favorites and also has the best ending of them all! I was almost in tears after the secret final boss fight when Sonic and Blaze said goodbye with Raising Me Up playing in the background! If I ever get around to finding and recharging my 3DS (assuming the cartridge and console both still work) I might be due for another play through.
One of my favorite things about the series has always been replaying the games. I like to think of myself as a honer, so opportunities to improve my gameplay or discover new ways to interact with the level design are my favorite parts of a lot of sonic games. I feel like the Adventure era titles, especially SA2 and after really hit that sweet spot while some of the older and newer titles are more hit or miss for me.
That said, I feel like a lot of the modern titles (Colors and Generations more specifically) are extremely overrated. They just don't have any side modes that I find interesting, the level design doesn't offer much replayability outside of collectibles, and the simplified ranking systems make score attacking functionally the same as time attacking.
All that said, I can see why you and so many others love this era. I'd be lying if I said I didn't have fond memories of all these games (save for Colors), I just never felt the urge to 100% or replay them. Ironically, I got closer to 100% in Lost World than any of the modern titles.
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, Sonic Heroes and Sonic Generations are on my list!
10. Yeah, gotta give respect to the true original.
9. That entire trilogy definitely needs more love! Always happy to see it given!
8. Definitely a fan favorite. I should play it again sometime...
7. I don't care how janky this is, this will ALWAYS be one of my favorites.
6. Ah yes, Best Game of All Time according to my preteen self.
5. Incredibly solid game!...Which I also need to replay.
4. Admittedly, I've never been a huge fan of this one, but I can still respect it.
3. Undoubtedly the best of the Genesis games!
2. I have yet to meet a Sonic fan who doesn't love this one.
1. Dang, that's my favorite, too! It does SOOOO many things right!
I'm so happy that you mentioned Sonic Rush! I still have it for the DS and I love playing it... and it was my first sonic game I got to play until my family got more games for me. I grew up watching Sonic X and watching the series, so it was a surprised for 7 yr old me to find out from my aunt and uncle that there were games and shows before sonic X. Every since then, I was hooked!
Thanks for this video. It's dope that you included spin offs because I was wondering what the best overall games are
Hahaha, nice Work with the RPG Maker bit for number 10
What I like about SA2 is the fact that it actually has a Order of Story to play
The Beginning of the story is actually in Dark side first -> City Escape Hero side -> more Dark story -> Hero story again
and than lastly after both sides are fully cleared we get Final Hazard the Second version of the Biolizard
I am happy Dark Brotherhood was at least mentioned i understand it dident get a place because its different but i still love it. I just saw the End and yes he better hide for a MONTH at least.
After finishing Sonic Frontiers, I've gotta say that it's definitely in the top five of my top ten Sonic games.
Some of my favorite games from Sonic are Sonic 3 & Knuckles, the adventure titles, Heroes, Shadow, both Rush and Rush Adventure, Unleased, Colors, Generations, and Mania.
10. I treat this game the same way as Pokemon Yellow and the original Legend of Zelda. I wouldn't replay them, but I do appreciate them as a good starting point.
9. I see why people would consider Advance 2 to be the best of the GBA platforming titles. It's loads of fun and the introduction to Cream the Rabbit was neat.
8. How bold of you to put Adventure 2 at not even the top 5. I do get the main issues with it, but the game has some excellent highs as you said and it was also a big part of my childhood.
7. I still consider Sonic Heroes to be a great game. The four teams were fun, the levels and music were great, and the story was pretty cool. I have heard of the whole Metallix comic storyline, but I haven't read it. I did enjoy some of the games in the dark ages like Shadow the Hedgehog, the storybook games, and Sonic Unleashed.
6. Again, bold move to have an adventure title and not even crack the top 5. This was my introduction to Sonic along with Adventure 2 and I hold both games in fond memories. The overworld was fun and the gameplay was amazing, fishing simulation notwithstanding.
5. Both Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure were very fun titles for the Nintendo DS. The gameplay was amazing and the introduction to Blaze the Cat was very welcomed.
4. It's not surprising as to why many people hold Sonic Colors in high regard. It is loads of fun and it feels simple, yet enjoyable. I personally love Sonic Unleashed a bit more than Colors. Also, I really did love the Werehog beat-em-up levels and they were very fun, don't @ me.
3. Sonic 3 & Knuckles really is Sega's magnum opus of sonic genesis titles and it's no surprise here. As for Sonic 3D Blast, the genesis soundtrack was amazing and that's all there is to it.
2. I remember being hyped about Generations and it did not disappoint me at all. It was amazing to go through all of the memorable stages in both 2D and 3D. I get the complaint that it's reusing old levels, but it's celebrating Sonic's 20th anniversary. I can let that slide. Time Eater does suck in the console version, but I heard it was amazing on the 3DS.
1. What is there that hasn't been said about Sonic Mania for its success? It is simply excellent as a love letter to classic sonic and an amazing game all-around. As for my thoughts on Sonic Forces, it's a fine game. I just see it as missed potential. Here is to hoping that Sonic Frontiers brings Sonic out of his gaming funk.
Time Eater isn't AMAZING on 3DS, he just doesn't suck as much. There's a tilt control segment, but at least that's better than all your party members constantly blabbering. Still not worth it for a highly inferior game with bad level design, poor level choices, and classic and modern Sonic playing almost exactly the same.
@@krimsonkatt Yeah. Wrong word choice I used for 3DS Time Eater. It's basically the lesser of the two evils, but not much. Am I correct?
Sonic Rush is my favourite one!! This list made me so happy.
Calling it now, he's putting Sonic Unleashed on this list.
My guess he put it at #7
*Edit:* Wow I was way off.
It’s a good game
Gosh, I hope he does.
Hoping we don’t run into those super-obsessed fans that would argue that it should have been in the top 3.
Lel
Were you right?
I played the original sonic when I was 2 and a 1/2 ever since I was a sonic fan. I played practically every game that's been out minus a few exclusives lol. Beaten a good majority of them and still have some that I want to beat. Love your sonic month so far josh keep it up
I hope you do more of these Franchise months.
Yep, this list mirrors my own.
Honestly the only things I do like about Lost World is just some of the new ways to attack, the Super Homing Attack and the Sonic Boom Kick or Homing Kick moves, I kinda loved the Parkour system too, but yeah, they were copying the Mario Galaxy series way too damn much with the level design and the Deadly Six are just overglorified Koopalings.
0:54 OMG SAME! Welcome to the club my dude
I played Chronicles with a broken touch screen, inputs registered about an inch to the left of where I was actually tapping, and I still loved it
Chronicles is good. Probably not great, but far from terrible. Personally I love it :D
SA2B as playing it as a grown it it's amazing and Chao garden was so much fun. Even more so than the main game.
Sonic heroes is a nice game I loved growing up. Fun to finnaly see more than just sonic play hero.
Sonic colors was beautiful in colors and the game was fun to play overall. Not the deepest story but I had a great time.
Sonic Racers is a guilty pleasure for me. I actually enjoyed it a ton playing with my brother.
Mario and sonic at the winter Olympic games Ds as it has an overhead map which should have been in the console versions like Mario sluggers to explore the world. Definitely fun game.
Sonic Cd I beat many years back. So worth it to see sonic win.
Can't name anymore. I did play shadow the hedgehog but that was just on
Great countdown overall, but...
23:54 Let's not get carried away. Mania's developers are fans of Sonic, but they're also SEGA employees. Like you mentioned, Whitehead even worked on official Sonic products before Mania.
equipping flame shield:
Big the Cats fishing stages are a very nice change of pace, i liked them because it was a chance to chill out.
The True Sonic 3; Sonic 3 & Knuckles; is by far the definitive Genesis Sonic game. In terms of the definitive Sonic title....depends on opinions. Me, personally, Sonic 3 & K is the Gold Standard. While the "Master Emeralds" were a bit of a stretch, they did give us Super Tails before Mania finally gave him the ability to draw on the Chaos Emeralds.
I'm hardly surprised by #1, it's been praised by numerous people. Best reaction belongs to another TH-camr named SomecallmeJohnny.
I just got this idea for a countdown. Top 10 Living Self-Sacrifices, where it focuses on characters that sacrifice themselves in a way that doesn't involve them dying for the greater good. Example: Logan, who gave up being a good king and turned into a tyrant to protect his kingdom.
I understand why you may not have put the Storybook games in, but they both had their merits with fun new mechanics, one having a part of the game where you could play as three of the rivals as knights, the other having full on time manipulation, and sickass boss fights WITH the "gotcha" fight just before the REAL fight.
As well as the Excaliber form and Darkspine form making their appearances for the first (and like Werehog and Hyper, last) times, placing each well-known character into parts of the story, and the best part? The new companion characters that prompt dialogue from Sonic without it being too cheesy. One being fairly concerned but guiding him, the other matching him blow for verbal blow in sass.
I remember enjoying Sonic Unleash alot granted I haven't played it in awhile mainly because my Playstation 2 stopped working but I remember liking the both the day and the night stages infact I think the Werehog is what actually sold the game because I remember seeing it in the commercials and thinking that it looked interesting
i like how Tails name is a speed pun Miles Prower.
Fascinating how the list started with and ended with a classic style game. I feel like there's an epic historical quote that best sums this up...
But I'm too lazy so bleh!
9:26 the pendulum edit LMAO
This countdown was great
On the topic of controversial Sonic opinions, I have one. I LIKE Amy Rose. Not for her fangirling over Sonic, but for her interactions with other characters. Most characters punch first, ask questions later. Meanwhile she takes the time to stop and ask WHY you are fighting. She has played a large part in turning Shadow, Gamma, and Silver over to the good guy side
"Most characters punch first, ask questions later. Meanwhile she takes the time to stop and ask WHY you are fighting. She has played a large part in turning Shadow, Gamma, and Silver over to the good guy side"
1: She's the main person that does things without thinking. Like somehow showing up on Prison Island and getting all up on Shadow in a situation where she should have ZERO trouble telling he's not Sonic. Or doing the same thing to Silver and dragging him on a goose chase in the desert, wasting his time because she "feels" Sonic is there (which he was, but that doesn't change the fact that he wasn't by the time they got there). Or overreacting to Sonic's mention of a "cat girl" and going straight into Yandere mode.
2: First of all, Silver wasn't changed by her. At most, she gave Sonic time to escape, only for Silver to continue his quest to kill Sonic and have another run in with him at Radical Train. It was SHADOW who helped Silver realize the truth, turning him away from Mephiles so he could help Sonic later at Kingdom Valley. 2nd, Gamma aside, those instances of turning characters are bad writing. Amy LITERALLY says that she'd choose Sonic over the world even under the circumstance that he destroyed it as Silver claim, completely ruining her character and showing the writers don't understand why she liked Sonic in the first place. And in Shadow's case, she just so happens to say the EXACT words Maria said to help, spontaneously causing him to have a flashback to Maria's final moments and what she really wanted, instantly changing sides after setting up the Colony Crash plot with no struggle of any kind. That is what we call a Deus ex Machina or an asspull. Something utterly contrived and senseless done for the sake of the plot. What are the odds that she'd just so happen to say the EXACT words Maria said to him 50 years ago? At least in Gamma's case, it was less about what she said and what she did (defending the bird just because it was the right thing to do). Here expects me to by this HIGHLY unlikely chance of Amy saying a specific string of words going on very little knowledge of Maria, Shadow, and their past together.
That's not a controversial opinion. Most people that dislike Amy are referring to her 00's and Sonic X iteration.
@@yoder6162 Yeah, I agree. I kind of like sonic X but I think it kind of ruined Amy, turning her from a caring and optimistic character to an obsessed yandere with serious anger issues. She's not irredeemably bad in that show but I too was turned off by that version of her.
@@TheYigafooWisperer
To be fair, she was always obsessive. The 4Kids Era (not specifically X) just went even further with an already established character trait.
@@espurrseyes42 True, though I feel she got more angry and violent after Sonic X. It's unfortunate when shows take a character trait too far.
I knew Mania was Number 1. It is the best possible 2D love letter ever
Sonic Unleashed: probably in a good spot in Honorable Mentions, but I feel the SD version was probably better than the HD version. Especially the Werehog stages: combat in them is still barebones, but I like the platforming you also do in those stages.
I think if there was a PC version, it should contain all of the best parts of the HD and SD versions. It would be so cool to have the HD fight with actual fighting.
Honestly, it's perfect that Cream and Cheese can cheese Advance 2
23:16 Ah, that sound is my childhood.
Josh: *puts Sonic 1 at Number 10*
Me: "What a brave man, going into the line of duty like that!"
12:12 Re: The Emerald Radar in SA2.
Josh, it's even worse than you think.
*It's intentional. When you get Emerald 1, the game re-checks the locations of Emerald 2 and 3, and if they're too close to Emerald 1, IT MOVES THEM AWAY! The same for Emerald 2, it moves Emerald 3 farther away from both Emerald 1 and 2's spot!*
WHAT?!
Okay, that was messed up Sega...
The most refreshing Top 10 Sonic Games list that I have ever seen
The only potentially polarising part of this list was the part where you said Colors was a mix of 3D and 2D. As far as I can remember, the balance was weighted heavily in favor of 2D gameplay, with the 3D sections being rather safe and bare-bones. Generation actually got the balance right imo.
2:05 okay that was pretty clever.
Sonic Unleashed, Sonic 2, Sonic Heroes and Sonic & the Secret Rings remain my favorite sonic games!
8:28 josh... you can't just flashbang me with CHOWDER of all things
"Hey kids wanna see a dead plotline"
"Yaaaaaaay"
"Stop shouting!"
Sonic has either had a great outing or a terrible one, there is no in-between, one day we have Sonic Colors, next we have Sonic Boom.
Can’t wait to see which Sonic game tops the charts for the resident Pyro Jester (which I’mma watching it with a cuppa and a cookie) 😊😊😊
Thanks for the new vid Josh (love you Ari!) 💙🐱💙
You’re still the best video game countdown guy good sir
My favorite Sonic game will probably always be Shadow the Hedgehog. I've survived over sixteen years of (sometimes valid, sometimes not) criticism thus far; it's more important to me to be genuine.
With that said your list does have tons of great games, though I'd cut on the exposition. 99% of people who watch this video know what Fly Formation is.
I personally hope that for the last sonic month video, that it’s about Eggmans mechs. The doctor has made so many over the years and I’m kinda interested to see which ones is his favorite
6:40 Awesome Ed Edd n Eddy reference. Personally I would have use the line when Ed said I will malice you with a shoehorn but That just me lol
I see your editor is a man of culture.
My Favorite Games in the Sonic Franchise by Far are Sonic 06,Sonic Unleashed,and Sonic Generations,they have so many Good Things that Shaped My as a Sonic Fan,I do Love Sonic Adventure DX,Sonic Adventure 2 Battle,Sonic Heroes,Sonic Rush,Sonic Rush Adventure,and the Classic Games and I even have a Soft Spot to Shadow the Hedgehog,perhaps once I Play those Games I could Change my Mind but I'm Sticking with the 3 Best Sonic Games in my Opinion,also since Next Week is the Finale of Sonic Month,all that's Left are Sonic Songs and Sonic Villains.
Sadly, the fact that Sonic Mania reused so many old stages is what holds it back for me... the new stages were the best part of that game for me, especially Press Garden Act 2, and I wish there had been more of them.
Great game, probably my second favorite out of the classics, but it still doesn't top Sonic 3 & Knuckles in my book.
and while it isnt something sa2 can take credit for without it we wouldnt have the LEGENDARY snap cube dub
I’m definitely glad to see you put Sonic Colors on this list, and especially in the top five, since it’s gotten a bit of flack online in recent years for reasons that I think have been both understandable and unwarranted (the latter being the absolutely batshiet insane idea that Forces is better.) And while I’ll admit it isn’t perfect, as some levels are pretty gimmicky and or/short and it focuses too heavily on the 2D (albeit due to the Wii’s limitations), it’s my favorite modern/3D Sonic game solely because it’s the most consistently. There aren’t gimmicks and/or alternate playstyles that bring down the pacing to a crawl like in Unleashed and the Adventure games, forced side-missions that are basically required to progress like in Generations and (again) Unleashed, and the latter levels don’t feel like a big dip in quality like in (once more) Unleashed, the Adventure games and even Generations. Which has a crappy version of Planet Wisp that’s nowhere near as fun as the game it hails from.
But Sonic Team decided to go back to basics with Colors and focused purely on Sonic gameplay, and instead of different characters we instead had separate power-ups that give Sonic unique albeit limited abilities. Some don’t like this approach, but it facilitates the platforming and makes it so what’d be an otherwise average level a lot more fun and ingenious due to the Wisps being designed around the game. Instead of just being artificially slapped into it like in Lost World and Forces. Both this and the more lighthearted and juvenile nature basically go entirely against the darker and more grounded writing of the “Dark Age” Sonic games. But given the mixed reception of Black Knight and Unleashed and especially the negative reception of Sonic ‘06, I feel like Colors was the best approach Sega could take to rekindle the series and reinstate people’s faith in Sonic.
And it actually worked! At least for a time, since both this and Generations were some of the most well-received Sonic games at that point by fans and critics alike. And while Colors has its flaws, no matter what Sonic Twitter says about it, it’ll always remain my favorite game, as well as one near and dear to my heart.
(Of course, this’s not going into its buggy and botched remaster released last year…but at the very least, it’s post-release patches did largely improve the game. Even if I still wish it was a stable game at launch and that this isn’t indicative of how Sega will treat Sonic in the future. Especially with the upcoming Sonic Frontiers.)
That's a pretty good list with some good explanations, and I absolutely agree with number 1. I don't think anything here was a hot take, your choices were reasonable. The only thing I raised an eyebrow at was the implication that Sonic 1 is better than Sonic 2.
Yeah that and not including Black Knight on the list. I know Josh REALLY doesn't like that game for some reason, but honestly that game is a masterpiece and no one can tell me otherwise.
@@krimsonkatt Haven't been able to play that game since I no longer have a wii, so I couldn't say, but the story was certainly interesting from what I've seen.
@@blekksverd The story is great and the gameplay is suprisingly fun, even with forced motion controls. Sonic is at his absolute best personality wise in this game. It was the last game that Crush 40 contributed to, composing FOUR songs for it. With Me is honestly the best Sonic final boss theme, (better than Solaris Phase 2 and Live and Learn believe it or not) and Fight the Knight and Through the Fire are also absolute bangers. It was also the last Sonic game to have vocal themes in gameplay as Sonic Colors and onwards used the Sonic Unleashed style of having MAYBE a singular vocal theme for the opening and then have the final boss use an ocastrated version of that theme with no other vocal themes in sight. It is SO MUCH better than Secret Rings in basically every aspect, despite running on the same engine. If you can emulate it I recommend you do so, though Dolphin doesn't tend to work the best on weaker hardware so you'll need a good PC to do so. Then you can play the game fully with a controller and it makes the already amazing game even better since you no longer have to waggle uncontrollably.
@@krimsonkatt Same here. At least he put the Dark Queen on best boss battles. (Although I find it just okay outside of the spectacle and music)
If Josh put Sonic '06 on here as a joke, I would laugh SO hard.
10: Hey, better to have it here than have it off the list at all. (Sonic the Hedgehog)
9: Wow. If it weren't for the fact that I don't think that the term was a thing until later, how Cheese could 'cheese' out the game would make me think that they named our little Chao that on purpose. Or was Cheese where the term came from? (Sonic Advance 2)
8: Sonic Adventure 2 is THIS LOW on the list? Oh, dear. Josh, I hope that bunker of yours holds. (Sonic Adventure 2)
7: This one is MY favorite game, even though said unfair deaths and the stupid secret stages meant that I never got to play the true ending. Still, it's the one I grew up on. (Sonic Heroes)
6: Speaking of an overworld, we'll have to see how Frontiers stacks, since it looks like it's gonna be Breath of the Wild: Sonic Edition. (Sonic Adventure)
5: Blaze deserves better. Give her more meaningful appearances, SEGA! (Sonic Rush)
4: Wisps are the best power-ups in gaming. They have SO much personality. (Sonic Colors)
3: Ah, yes. The one that started the list of many Sonic Rivals. (Sonic 3 & Knuckles)
2: Now THIS is how you do an anniversary right! (Sonic Generations)
1: I honestly expected him to make a fake out joke and call Sonic 06 the best game ever for less than a second. (Sonic Mania)
And so, sonic month comes to an end. These are a blast to watch. 👍
I prefer 3d sonic too. I wish the games had done better because I liked how the 3D games let you get to know the characters and story more, and I loved playing Sonic Heroes as a kid.
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I AGREE WITH YOU 100%!
*Pokes my head through the window* Josh Scorcher get back here damn it you still got one sonic video left for next week next week is the 30th
I'll be honest, I unapologetically love Sonic Unleashed, night stages and all. I'm a bit biased because it was my first Sonic game ever played. For me, it set the ground work for what I believed a Sonic game should be. A serious game with light hearted moments. Chip had good chemistry with Sonic, he always got a chuckle out of me, and I was sad when I had to see him go.
Plus, the night stages offered something new to the franchise, from how the battle system worked to the _absolutely delicious_ jazz segments that played while you beat creatures up. And that Night Boss music, heavenly. If I were to complain about one thing regarding the night stages, it was that the Wii version had weird and hard to control... well, controls. (It took me the entirety of the game to figure out how dashing works)
The Day Stages, even though I preferred the Night Stages, taught me exactly how fast Sonic should be, and it was incredible to zip around stages with the wind to my back. It was exhilarating.
I know the game had mixed reviews and the Night stages weren't for everyone. But it will always be my top favorite for teachings me exactly what Sonic was all about.
Hm, not bad list, fair and valid points and opinions, i can’t wait to see what who’s will come up with next time.
My own hot take is I not only acknowledge Sonic Spinball's existence, I actually *like* it.
God bless you joshscorcher gods bless you
I like the RPG Maker thing with the first entry. It's fun.
I knew Chronicles would be bashed at the end. PITCHFORKS GET YOUR PITCHFORKS HERE
Hey josh got an idea for a top 10. Top 10 games that need a sequel. Alot of games go unfinished some get 2 games some only get 1. The rules if a game ends on a cliffhanger the game had great game play great story but just left a little bit of sequel bait at the end only to never be heard again. My picks
10.Shadow of the colossus
9.Ininja
8.Darkness 2
7.Dark
6.Splatterhouse
5.Eternal darkness requiem
4.custom robo
3.Prince of Persia the forgotten sands
2.Dante's inferno
1.Sphinx and the cursed mummy
Would love to see your picks on this subject keep making videos josh always enjoy your content
Wish sonic and the black knight had been on this list
I'm starting to think he likes some of these game out of pity.
Like they could have been more , if only.
10. A good start but definitely has a case of "Early Installment Weirdness".
9. Vaguely remember playing it as a kid. Would love to revisit it either on its own or as part of a collection.
8. Yeah, fan perception of this game has been seriously warped: Projared's review puts it best in how raising the chaos makes us selectively replay only the good parts and ignore the bad or mediocre parts. Plus, the story's got its fair share of plot holes.
7. Heroes itself was going to have a sequel, but the PS2 port was a disaster that killed any possibility of that happening. Plus, for a story that was supposed to be geared toward newcomers, Metal Sonic's presence probably confused a lot of people back in the day. If only you didn't have to reply the same story four times (including the bad Chaotix missions) and beat the broken special stages to get the final story. If the whole game had as much love and polish as the final story did, it would've been much better.
6. I'd argue this was 3D Sonic at its best in story telling. Everyone had a role to play in the narrative, not just Sonic and Eggman. And everyone underwent character development, including Tails and Amy. Big was shoehorned in, though, and just so they could try to sell you a special controller just for fishing. Cut Big out and make Amy's stages less of a slog to get through and the game would be nearly perfect.
5. Played the sequel on the DS, haven't played this first installment. It's too bad it's the last time we have multiple stories in a Sonic game.
4. Good gameplay, but the story doesn't take itself seriously. And the less said about the disatorous port/remake it got last year, the better. Still, this was a step back in the right direction.
3. The peak of classic Sonic. And yeah, let's just pretend 3D Blast never happened.
2. Obviously rushed out to meet the anniversary deadline, but it managed to still be good despite that. It's the last time Sega actually cared about making a good Sonic game.
1. It's sad when a fan made game is better than the official game released the same year. Sega should be taking notes.
Overall a very fair and reasonable list. I personally still love Unleashed as my favorite game, but other than that I don’t have any real disagreements with this list. Definitely agree with the praise for Rush and Mania, who fight over the second and third spot on my favorites list. Can’t wait for your next list!
Sonic Rush was the first Sonic game I’ve ever played (and the second video game I’ve ever played).
Not a bad list. My only gripes with it are how the description you give for Colours sounds like it's straight from 2010. The game is not like the day stages in Unleashed at all, it's not even close. And putting Mania at #1 is like having white bread for lunch.
But it's not like it's not agreeable. There are legitimate reasons behind each pick. Enjoyed the video a ton.
Sonic villains for next countdown. That or best Eggman voice actors?
Editor is best boi!
You say "And here we are" a couple of days before I premiere a Kirby bosses list. Real coincidence there.
I'm with you Josh on enjoying Modern Sonic titles vs. the classics. Simple reason, I did not own a Gensis and thus only got to play Sonic games sparingly at the homes of my friends who owned a Gensis and Sonic games. My first Sega console, was their last, the Dreamcast (which I still own), and Sonic Adventure was my first proper Sonic game I got to play when it was new and learned from top to bottom. Another tidbit is due to not owning a Gensis, my other avenue to enjoying Sonic was the comics and cartoons, which I am a bigger fan of THOSE spin-off media (specifically the old Archie-Sonic books, and Sonic SatAM (I do like AOSTH, and Underground but SatAM still rules above all) than the games themselves especially as Sega has continued to go downhill with the quality of the series. That said I do enjoy a game here and there, and find the attempts at a bigger, ensemble narrative to be my favorite Sonic titles.
That said I don't hate the classics and enjoy playing them from time to time; but I do not wish Sega to STRICTLY stay in the past. Their main issue is Sega's inability to let the franchise grow and their insane micro-managing of Sonic Team and any other devs that touch the franchise. Combine that with Sega's utterly DUMB business moves involving Sonic... poor Hedgehog has a bad cast of bad custodian. It's a miracle when he does get a win like the live-action movies have been hits, and much needed wins for Sonic.
I will gladly participate in the flame war that admiral Josh starts… admiral Yi has nothing on you.
Not counting the collections i have played 7 Sonic games. Each one i love. Shadow The Hedgehog for PS2 (i loved playing it and it has such an awesome soundtrack and intro.), Sonic Unleashed for PS2 and PS3 (the werehog stages i actually had more fun with.), Team Sonic Racing for the PS4 (one of 3 Sonic racing games i played), Sonic Forces for the PS4 (i could finally make my OCs and introduced the coolest looking character in my opinion Infinite The Jackal. Though I really with he was a wolf.), Sonic Riders for the Gamecube(i used to play this all the time as a kid. Awesome gameplay and soundtrack.), Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing for the Wii (it might be cheating but it has Sonic as the main title so it counts to me.), and Sonic Heroes for the GameCube. (Really the only problems I had were Egg Emporer, nabbing the emeralds and Team Dark in those rail canyon levels.)
honestly sonic advance 2 has most of my memories attached to it. because that game kicked my ass. I have never been able to finish Techno Base Zone.
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Hey now, don't throw shade at Dark Cloud 2 like that. That game's fishing minigame had some very relaxing music to go along with it.
That Ken Penders burn, though.
10. Hard as heck, but worth beating.
9. I... need to play these for myself.
8. The story is weaker than SA1, but I've found the gameplay more enjoyable (for the most part, anyway).
7. See #9.
6. Big aside, this was the series' first attempt at doing some serious storytelling and it was great! Too bad the animation and some of the voice acting hasn't aged well.
5. Again, see #9. There are too many great Sonic titles I haven't gotten to yet.
4. While it can be gimmicky at times and the in-story dialogue is often cringeworthy ("Badly Nosehair", anyone?), this is probably one of the best modern Sonic games out there.
3. Another great title that I haven't gotten to yet. Hopefully, Sonic Origins will give me that chance.
2. While it's short and the story is a little messy, gameplay-wise, we've got a perfect love letter to the franchise.
1. Agree wholeheartedly!
And not to mention the meme snapcube made for sonic adventure 2
Nice Hellsing Abridged reference. XD
Unleashed is a definete honorable mention.
I think under better circumstances, Sonic Chronicles could have been great. Admittedly, it's not the best, but I still come back to it from time-to-time. I love all the concepts it brought to the table and Shade was a great addition to the cast. Maybe if Bioware hadn't dropped the ball, or Ken Penders didn't start messing around, maybe Chronicles could have had a lasting impact.
I recently replayed the first one and I had a lot of fun when I put the "going fast" stuff aside and just treated it as a platformer. I've always thought people misinterpreted these games as being all about pure speed. The Geek Critique has a great video on that, but I'll just sum it up as the speed needing to be earned.
4:04 She is a BABY!
For Mania the lack of originality came with an immense feeling of redundancy, especially after Generations, Sonic 4, and Sonic Advance before it all catering to classic nostalgia, and then Forces doing it again after.
Shadow the Hedgehog, the game, addressed that issue from Sonic Adventure 2. In the several endings you get to see each option but the true ending has Shadow remembering dying but deciding whether he's the original Shadow or a copy he's the Shadow of Earth now and will protect the planet that Maria loved.
Numerous wasted, non-canon endings isn't "addressing the issue".