I'm really enjoying the video versions of the podcast - I do think the images add to the the impact. I have to confess that I usually binge the episodes when they become available, and am enjoying revising the episodes again by watching them in addition.
I do hope you stick with this YT format. It's so easy to keep up with podcasts this way, and it does add to the reinforcement of the research and work that you both do for your podcast. Onwards and upwards!
I discovered these amazing gentlemen on utube. Loved history always, but now I'm REALLY learning things in context!. So funny also. Greetings from farmland in Arkansas!
Couldn’t sleep last night so I got up at 2am went downstairs and listened to 3 earlier episodes of this series. Great stuff it’s just like being back at university listening to great lecturers 👍 Keep the videos coming.
I ALWAYS LISTEN TO THE POD FIRST ON SPOTIFY, THEN THE SAME AGAIN ON THE TUBE, ITS JUST SO MORE DYNAMIC TO WATCH EXPRESSION AND HAND GESTURES..... BOTH ARE EXCELLENT EXCELLENT 👌
Great to see the history lads in the digital flesh. An excellent series. It would great to see something of the historical journey from Italian Futurism and the of Symbolist Movement to Fascism and Nazism.
Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is simply amazing - one of the best history chronicles I've ever read. Why do you think Churchill was able to recognize so early what Hitler was?
Churchill initially felt that Hitler might be a good thing for Germany, capable of dragging it out of the mire it had got itself into and becoming a strong bulwark against Soviet style Bolshevism. However, on observing Nazi behaviour following Hitler's accession to power, his inherent liberal social values and his affection for Jewish culture and people he then quickly recognised the obscene nature of Nazism and the rest is...as they say.
It all looks and sounds so effortless and that is because of the massive amount of work put in . There is not an ounce of spare fat on these casts and the way evidence from direct sources is pulled like so many rabbits from a hat is truly outstanding and really shows up the misguided approach of so many t.v docs with their endless repetition, over use of stock footage and reliance on the word of the presenter " historian " Just two blokes having an informed discussion . It ought to be boring as .... In reality it's actually addictive .
Nearly an entire episode in which the Soviet Union has nothing to do with the build-up and support of Nazi Germany. Almost makes you think that the 1939 Non-Aggression Pact really wasn't much of a thing after 6 years of British and French bolstering of the Nazis.
@33:57 "There's nothing wrong with being patriotic.And there is nothing wrong with being a patriotic German." I wish all western nations embraced this !
Some of these like the Nuremberg Trials and Night of the long knives are on youtube Music so I can listen to them as a podcast, but this one and a couple others in this playlist do not show up. Does anyone know why?
For some reason, the description of Joachim von Ribbentop as a ‘Champagne………….’ has been snipped out of this very interesting podcast? Presumably, this was ‘Champagne Socialist’ but for some reason, to say so is verboten?
Absolutely. Does he have a point about uniting the oppressed German people into one state, maybe. Does he have a point that racial identity is the most important and determines character. That humans can be bred like thoroughbred horses? Nope. First proved by being defeated by the unison of all races. Then proved wrong again by science's advances in genealogy.
A correction Austria had never been part of the German Reich. Most of the German states had been originally in the Holy Roman Empire and headed by the Austrian emperor . But from1806/14 modern Austria was inside the Austrian empire after 1867 the Austro-Hungarian empire.
As regards the shortages being experienced by the ordinary Germans, I believe their Socialist principle of Autarky - complete self-sufficiency - was a big contributor to this?
Hard to disagree with that opening quote really, considering the decline of the self-hating bleeding heart west; and considering the situation in weimar germany at the time. You don't know what you'll do till you're put under pressure; to cross 110th St. is a helluva tester.
Sleeping late is not a sign of laziness. It's a sign of a disordered daily rhythm. He was up late through the night. His indolence was another (perhaps related?) issue.
Do you ever talk about an important thing fascist and liberal regimes have in common, i.e. anti-communism i.e. containing the Sovjet Union? What other reason could their be for Britain being tolerant towards Germany's rearmerment and such?
@@metanoian965 Before Hitler there was already Pangermanism. (Kind of like Black Nationalism but for Germans). When WW1 started the Austro-Hungarian Empire was still big and they were allied with Germany. Austria-Hungary was multiethnic, the Austrian part spoke German. So after that the Empire broke apart and many people had the idea that all German speakers should be united in a single nation. Most people didn't care, I guess. Napoleon wasn't really French either, he was from Corsica. Source: I'm slightly buzzed and telling you history as I remember it.
So chilling, we have similar situation with not only ruzzia but all new axis (BRICS) countries right now. Just allowing dictators & bullies, to do whatever they want. It says a lot about strength and will to defend democracy BY the democratic countries.
The annoying thing about this series is that they keep injecting comments or phrasing things in ways to criticise modern day conservatives. This episode had constant references to “Make Germany Great Again” - never have I heard that before in the context of Nazi Germany. It’s clearly an a Trump reference. In another episode they compare Thatcher to Hitler. While the historical representation appears fairly straightforward and wide-ranging, this inability to distinguish between their own views on Conservative politicians and Nazis really impacts their authority to present sound history.
The first time I saw that comparison was, and I had to check it. 2016. An article about Hitler from 1934 had that line in it. In that article from 1934, it says "Adolf Hitler, out of prison, took advantage of the groans. He told people that he would make Germany “great” again." So maybe they are aware of the original source. You can find it all online if you go looking. Search for Uncle Rays Corner Modern Leaders of men 1934, for the original article. It is well worth reading even now. It may be the case they weren't referencing Trump at all. That they were just using the campaign slogan he was using in 1934.
Although not a campaign slogan, Hitler did indeed use the phrase 'make Germany great again' more than once, and it was the essence of his mission in his own eyes.
@@Conorp77 please refer to the speeches where he did. Regardless, the point is obviously to tie Trump to him in the modern context, which is beyond the pale.
@@AdamIndikt Google it, you will find newspaper coverage in the US of him saying it. I had it mentioned with source in a previous comment that was deleted. Edit from the time period of Hitler saying it.
What if he had stopped there? We will never know because the Brits would not allow him. Let us not forget, it was the British who declared war on Germany. That is what started the world war.
I'm really enjoying the video versions of the podcast - I do think the images add to the the impact. I have to confess that I usually binge the episodes when they become available, and am enjoying revising the episodes again by watching them in addition.
Seconded! Exactly what I have been doing!
Yes, as a visual learner, the video with subtitles are great for me.
Very well said
I do hope you stick with this YT format. It's so easy to keep up with podcasts this way, and it does add to the reinforcement of the research and work that you both do for your podcast. Onwards and upwards!
You guys are simply astounding! Thank you tremendously for the rest is history!
Candidate for best sentence ever: "Nobody is thinking about butter now; they are so overwhelmed by the Rhineland".
I discovered these amazing gentlemen on utube. Loved history always, but now I'm REALLY learning things in context!. So funny also. Greetings from farmland in Arkansas!
Just discovered you guys. You are not only incredibly knowledgeable but also great company. Am telling everyone. Thanks. :)🙏
Couldn’t sleep last night so I got up at 2am went downstairs and listened to 3 earlier episodes of this series.
Great stuff it’s just like being back at university listening to great lecturers 👍
Keep the videos coming.
I ALWAYS LISTEN TO THE POD FIRST ON SPOTIFY, THEN THE SAME AGAIN ON THE TUBE, ITS JUST SO MORE DYNAMIC TO WATCH EXPRESSION AND HAND GESTURES..... BOTH ARE EXCELLENT EXCELLENT 👌
Dominic and Tom you both have the best history podcast out there!
Not really. Very light work.
This is shaping up to be one of the best series they have done
Love the addition of video!
Really enjoy the video format - thanks for the uploads and hope it continues!
Great to see the history lads in the digital flesh. An excellent series. It would great to see something of the historical journey from Italian Futurism and the of Symbolist Movement to Fascism and Nazism.
It’s refreshing to listen to an objective unemotional account of what is a tremendously emotive subject. Not an easy thing to do. Thankyou
I have really enjoyed the latest serries of videos! Keep up the great work, love from Flanders
YOU GUYS ARE JUST THE BEST EXPLANATION DUEo IN HISTORY, SOOOO EXCITING 😊
Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is simply amazing - one of the best history chronicles I've ever read. Why do you think Churchill was able to recognize so early what Hitler was?
Churchill initially felt that Hitler might be a good thing for Germany, capable of dragging it out of the mire it had got itself into and becoming a strong bulwark against Soviet style Bolshevism. However, on observing Nazi behaviour following Hitler's accession to power, his inherent liberal social values and his affection for Jewish culture and people he then quickly recognised the obscene nature of Nazism and the rest is...as they say.
He saw himself. A child and soldier of empire, a subject and leader, a hard nosed imperialist with a similar set of beleifs and prejudices.
Absolutely gripping book, also his Fall of France.
Love the facial expressions in these fun - story telling . . .VIDEO history lessons - THANK You for all your work and research references - ‼️
Excellent work gentlemen. My new favorite podcast group.
Absolutely brilliant contributions from the both of you throughout the pod, what an absolute pleasure to listen to! Warmest from Norway
"Hitler is brilliant", I'm sure that will never be taken out of context 😀
So the biggest problem was that no one took hitler for his word? Wow
It all looks and sounds so effortless and that is because of the massive amount of work put in .
There is not an ounce of spare fat on these casts and the way evidence from direct sources is pulled like so many rabbits from a hat is truly outstanding and really shows up the misguided approach of so many t.v docs with their endless repetition, over use of stock footage and reliance on the word of the presenter " historian "
Just two blokes having an informed discussion . It ought to be boring as ....
In reality it's actually addictive .
Shirer’s book is truly excellent for pre war german opinion. I found an audiobook version and It was spellbinding.
Yes. I read it years ago, in the midst of several days of intense feverish bed ridden sickness. Made a massive impression.
Historically, the British upper classes were always temperamentally closer to Germany and looked down on Gallic nations.
Excellent podcast 👏
Did people have ‘frozen meat’? They didn’t have fridges at that point…
You two are a pair of rotters, I was really into that and you stopped ! Excellent :)
Why are only certain episodes available on BBC Sounds?
Excellent discussion and analysis.
Great stuff 👍
Nearly an entire episode in which the Soviet Union has nothing to do with the build-up and support of Nazi Germany. Almost makes you think that the 1939 Non-Aggression Pact really wasn't much of a thing after 6 years of British and French bolstering of the Nazis.
This series is riveting stuff
Hello Tom and Dom 👍
Shout out to Muumipappa fishing behind Dom's back
I remember hearing somewhere that the German economy was literally going to collapse without the polish gold reserves
@33:57 "There's nothing wrong with being patriotic.And there is nothing wrong with being a patriotic German." I wish all western nations embraced this !
Its what gets excused in its name thats the problem. When your love and pride in nation and identity is put above another's lack of.
Videos are great
WOOOOW AWSOME POD BOYS
Some of these like the Nuremberg Trials and Night of the long knives are on youtube Music so I can listen to them as a podcast, but this one and a couple others in this playlist do not show up. Does anyone know why?
It Isn’t “My Battle”?
TH-cam format much better
WHERE ARE THE GERMANS GETTING THE RESOURCES FROM??? RAW MATERIALS, METAL ORE GAS ETC....
For some reason, the description of Joachim von Ribbentop as a ‘Champagne………….’ has been snipped out of this very interesting podcast?
Presumably, this was ‘Champagne Socialist’ but for some reason, to say so is verboten?
i like these conversations
So does he not have at least some justification to try and end the treaty of Versailles??
Absolutely. Does he have a point about uniting the oppressed German people into one state, maybe.
Does he have a point that racial identity is the most important and determines character. That humans can be bred like thoroughbred horses? Nope. First proved by being defeated by the unison of all races. Then proved wrong again by science's advances in genealogy.
Err.. That clip of 2 Germans at about 4.00 Is that you 2 dressed up? If so WTF!
What was the communication documents written in the French government during the Rhineland annexation?
A correction Austria had never been part of the German Reich. Most of the German states had been originally in the Holy Roman Empire and headed by the Austrian emperor . But from1806/14 modern Austria was inside the Austrian empire after 1867 the Austro-Hungarian empire.
MAG BLOODY NIFICENT
As regards the shortages being experienced by the ordinary Germans, I believe their Socialist principle of Autarky - complete self-sufficiency - was a big contributor to this?
Intelligent
34:17 Is that background noise someone sucking on a vape?
Hard to disagree with that opening quote really, considering the decline of the self-hating bleeding heart west; and considering the situation in weimar germany at the time.
You don't know what you'll do till you're put under pressure; to cross 110th St. is a helluva tester.
Sleeping late is not a sign of laziness. It's a sign of a disordered daily rhythm. He was up late through the night. His indolence was another (perhaps related?) issue.
Rhymes with Putins progression today.
Judea declared war on germany in 1933? or is that false
Do you ever talk about an important thing fascist and liberal regimes have in common, i.e. anti-communism i.e. containing the Sovjet Union?
What other reason could their be for Britain being tolerant towards Germany's rearmerment and such?
The wrong shoes! So many people in history (Richard Nixon) have the wrong shoes!
I don’t care for nationalism or socialism
Those arnt the options.
I wonder what language Mussolini and Hitler spoke to each other in?
I hope it was English! 😉
They needed a mediator
Did Hitler even have a German accent? He was Austrian
I think he worked very hard to get a sort of Prussian accent. No idea, but he definitely doesn't sound Austrian.
If he was Austrian, then how did he become German chancellor ?
@@metanoian965 Before Hitler there was already Pangermanism. (Kind of like Black Nationalism but for Germans). When WW1 started the Austro-Hungarian Empire was still big and they were allied with Germany. Austria-Hungary was multiethnic, the Austrian part spoke German. So after that the Empire broke apart and many people had the idea that all German speakers should be united in a single nation. Most people didn't care, I guess. Napoleon wasn't really French either, he was from Corsica.
Source: I'm slightly buzzed and telling you history as I remember it.
@@justachannel8600 Pan - Germanism _ Wikipedia
So chilling, we have similar situation with not only ruzzia but all new axis (BRICS) countries right now. Just allowing dictators & bullies, to do whatever they want. It says a lot about strength and will to defend democracy BY the democratic countries.
La historia se reduce a la lucha anglo por la libertad de los pueblos🤣🤣…contenido anglo para cerebros licuados…🫠🫠
La historia se reduce a la lucha anglo por la libertad de los pueblos🤣🤣…contenido anglo para cerebros licuados…🫠🫠
La historia se reduce a la lucha anglo por la libertad de los pueblos🤣🤣…contenido anglo para cerebros licuados…🫠🫠
La historia se reduce a la lucha anglo por la libertad de los pueblos🤣🤣…contenido anglo para cerebros licuados…🫠🫠
La historia se reduce a la lucha anglo por la libertad de los pueblos🤣🤣…contenido anglo para cerebros licuados…🫠🫠
The annoying thing about this series is that they keep injecting comments or phrasing things in ways to criticise modern day conservatives. This episode had constant references to “Make Germany Great Again” - never have I heard that before in the context of Nazi Germany. It’s clearly an a Trump reference. In another episode they compare Thatcher to Hitler.
While the historical representation appears fairly straightforward and wide-ranging, this inability to distinguish between their own views on Conservative politicians and Nazis really impacts their authority to present sound history.
The first time I saw that comparison was, and I had to check it. 2016. An article about Hitler from 1934 had that line in it. In that article from 1934, it says "Adolf Hitler, out of prison, took advantage of the groans. He told people that he would make Germany “great” again."
So maybe they are aware of the original source. You can find it all online if you go looking. Search for Uncle Rays Corner Modern Leaders of men 1934, for the original article. It is well worth reading even now. It may be the case they weren't referencing Trump at all. That they were just using the campaign slogan he was using in 1934.
Although not a campaign slogan, Hitler did indeed use the phrase 'make Germany great again' more than once, and it was the essence of his mission in his own eyes.
@@Conorp77 please refer to the speeches where he did. Regardless, the point is obviously to tie Trump to him in the modern context, which is beyond the pale.
Bet Trump has read it
@@AdamIndikt Google it, you will find newspaper coverage in the US of him saying it. I had it mentioned with source in a previous comment that was deleted. Edit from the time period of Hitler saying it.
What if he had stopped there? We will never know because the Brits would not allow him. Let us not forget, it was the British who declared war on Germany. That is what started the world war.