The Best Petty Doctor Doom Reed Richard's Moment...Well One Of Them

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  • The Fantastic Four Marvel Comic's first family. These superheroes have had their fair share of wacky adventures, but few as off the all as during the silver age. The silver age of comics also doubles as Marvel's Renaissance era and this time sees the birth of some staple tropes for the FF. Tropes such as the many petty schemes of Doctor Doom. Here witness the birth of a classic super villain scheme, the body swap. Doctor Doom switches bodies with Reed Richards a.k.a Mister Fantastic and shenanigans ensue. This story would not only find itself recurring in comics, both with Reed and other characters, but also in other mediums. An oft overlooked Fantastic Four series took a stab at this plot, and executed it masterfully. We take a look at body swaps and Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes here on Casually Comics!
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  • @matman329
    @matman329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    I like to think that Doom just switches body's with Reed sometimes to just do petty shit, like moving stuff around his lab or say dumb things during interviews.

    • @jpboursaw4469
      @jpboursaw4469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Oh, that is such cannon fodder. No only destroying Reeds science cred, but making him look unhinged when he spends weeks in the lab looking for his whatchamagigger. You know, the thingamabob that was right next to the doohickey.
      Then Sue enters with a pregnancy test.
      Sue: Reed, we have to talk.
      Reed: Not now, Susan. I, uh, left a Spanner in the Negative Zone. And you know how Annihlius gets about litter!
      (goes to Negative Zone)
      CURSE YOU DOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!
      Revenge complete.

    • @tomorrow4eva
      @tomorrow4eva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This is long-term gold! Plus with short jaunts, Richard won’t have enough time to escape and figure out how he’s doing it, increasing his frustration.

    • @deanbromerg8000
      @deanbromerg8000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or to make out with sue!!

    • @thefurrybastard1964
      @thefurrybastard1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I could totally see Doom stealing Reeds body while he's asleep and Reed waking up in a gay bar or something.

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    The great dichotomy between the FF and Doom is just how easily Reed could have BEEN Doom. Without Ben's realism to ground him, without Sue's love to keep him looking on the human side, without Johnny there to lighten him up and getting him to unclench every once in a while. Doom is just as smart and as capable as Reed but he has no first family, no one to look after him and the only people he's ever had to that description he's sacrificed for the sake of power and arrogance. There are multiple universes where Doom becomes a hero because he has the support he so desperately needs to become a better man, and even more universes where Reed becomes more like Doom during his accident but remains a hero because of the Four still being able to support him and hold him steady. One need only look at the Ultimate Universe to see just what a Reed without the Four behind him is capable of.

    • @saturncrush
      @saturncrush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Very accurate take. Doom is tragic, in that only thing he truly desires is to be honestly loved.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eh, doom was pretty bad before he put on the mask.

  • @d-manthecaptain1382
    @d-manthecaptain1382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Personally I like the previous issue where The Fantasic Four get evicted from their apartment because Reed lost all their money buying bad stock, and Namor used buried treasure to buy a movie studio so he could hire them to play in a movie about themselves, which was really a trap to kill three of them and marry one.

    • @billuraral1870
      @billuraral1870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      well, Ben Grimm is quite the husband material

    • @JKevinCarrier
      @JKevinCarrier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Exactly the story I was going to mention! Hilarious stuff.

    • @RABartlett
      @RABartlett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And when Johnny was trying to impress an actress with his ordeal she was like "Yeah dude, have you ever worked at Miramax? That sounds a thousand times better."

    • @alejandrocervantes3624
      @alejandrocervantes3624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Namor wanted to get clovered

  • @justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097
    @justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I love that Doom took the body of the member with arguably the weakest powers either because his rivalry with Reed was more important than success or because he believed Mr Unobservant would somehow be the biggest threat to his infiltration plans.

    • @admech590
      @admech590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      But reeds practically immortal..

    • @kronos1794
      @kronos1794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Doom understands Reed is his greatest threat because Reed is as smart as he is. The other members of the 4 are minor obstacles in comparison.

    • @HandofOmega
      @HandofOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Weakest powers? While they've made a big deal about how Sue (who used to have that label) is probably actually the MOST powerful, *none* of the FF are really "weak". Reed's power is usually underestimated because he does more with his mind than his body, but there's a reason Batman thinks Plastic Man is potentially THE most dangerous member of the JLA! One Piece fans know what I'm talking about...Imagine if Reed applied his knowledge of Science to Combat, and started pulling off the kind of moves that Luffy is known for!

    • @justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097
      @justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HandofOmega a) I said arguably b) His competition for weakest powers is the Thing, Johnny has crazy destructive potential & Sue (as you said) is probably the most powerful.

    • @HandofOmega
      @HandofOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097 I remember an issue of Wizard that ranked The Most POwerful Superhero Teams, and the FF ranked surprisingly high, in the Top Five; it was pointed out that each one is ridicoulously powerful and the main thing holding them back was that they were the smallest team and would be overwhelmed by sheer numbers!
      I think the Legion of Super Heroes ranked higher; as the name implies, they have far more members than any other team, many of whom are also incredibly powerful (and they have the best tech).
      For the curious, the top spot was taken by The Authority, who were really popular at the time. Anybody remember them? The Authority? Anybody? Anybody? Well, maybe Sasha will make a video about them one day...

  • @RABartlett
    @RABartlett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    What gave me a chuckle from the "Doom"/Sue marriage is the reaction shots of all the characters who have a personal history with the parties, or at least some kind of stake of the geopolitics of the MU, but it's also like, "What does GAMBIT think of all this?"

    • @CasuallyComics
      @CasuallyComics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      We all need to be kept abreast as to what Gambit is thinking!

    • @jpboursaw4469
      @jpboursaw4469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@CasuallyComics For those of us that think in Pigeon French, at least. Not sure what that would be, but most likely translates to something not meant for the bashful!

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Gambit is a romantic type, so why not get his take?

    • @DoveJS
      @DoveJS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Gambit was always a favorite for me; I MUST know his opinion!

    • @joelpartee594
      @joelpartee594 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I immediately went to Miles Stokes as Sexy Gambit "Gambit t'inks dese two got chemistry, an' not just dem beakers Doom always playin' wit"

  • @mauricecherry1209
    @mauricecherry1209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Doom Reed’s combination name is Room and that brings me joy.

  • @carloscrecelius9597
    @carloscrecelius9597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I thought you were going to talk about Terror in Tinytown, where he shrunk the FF and made them believe they were ordinary people, and stuck around to berate Reed as his overbearing boss. His pettiest moment in my opinion.

    • @CasuallyComics
      @CasuallyComics  2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That story is great!

    • @HandofOmega
      @HandofOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I see that moment and raise Doom's stiffing Power Man for $200...which he would come to regret, as Luke Cage storms Latveria like a pimp looking for his "money, honey"!

    • @carloscrecelius9597
      @carloscrecelius9597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HandofOmega was that petty or just cheap?

    • @Solas67
      @Solas67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hah! I just posted that as MY favorite moment too. It's also the 20th anniversary issue which I have an original of!

    • @hondomurray7927
      @hondomurray7927 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent story
      236 I believe; although, It's been a few years since I've read it (So, I wouldn't be surprised if I got the wrong issue).
      I liked how Marvel continued the story of what happened to Doom in an issue of The Micronauts (Can't recall which one).
      I wasn't a fan of the art (I preferred Micheal Golden's art in issues 1-11) but it was interesting how they tied it in to the FF story by John Byrne.

  • @nathancarter8239
    @nathancarter8239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    My favorite part of the episode is that Reed managed to take control of Doom's castle while possessing Doom's body because he (rightly) guessed that Doom programmed all the Doombots to fear him, and Reed manipulates that fear expertly.

  • @megan_alnico
    @megan_alnico 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I have to say my favorite body swap episode of a superhero TV show was when Lex Luthor swapped bodies with the Flash and had no idea who he was.
    Wally's (not Barry's my mistake) adventures as Lex Luthor we're also super hilarious.

    • @Blue5Standingby
      @Blue5Standingby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It’s actually Wally. But yea both bathroom scenes. In that episode were hilarious.

    • @harlannguyen4048
      @harlannguyen4048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You mean Wally?

    • @megan_alnico
      @megan_alnico 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@harlannguyen4048 yep, you are absolutely right. It is definitely Wally.

    • @rodneylindsey849
      @rodneylindsey849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Classic 🖖🏾

  • @CharlesJohnson-tp7qq
    @CharlesJohnson-tp7qq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    "Would Reed sign off on this?"
    Reed Richards would be so distracted by building a transdimensional doorway or unstable molecule underoos or whatever he'd sign off anything you handed him.
    (This is why Ben should have handled all if the Four's business interests.)

  • @anne.eyewitness
    @anne.eyewitness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Looking back, it's very funny to see them advertising "Reed Richards... is a villain????" like it's a shocking twist 1) when we've had some variety of evil Reed kicking about for the last 20ish years and 2) he was kind of an asshole to begin with anyway

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He was a little Brusque, but only an asshole in Civil War.

    • @rackstraw
      @rackstraw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Reed is one more lab accident away from super-villainy.

    • @morganrobinson8042
      @morganrobinson8042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One assumes in the early 60's his brand of paternalist attitude was looked upon better. Now it just makes him look like a high-handed control freak.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@morganrobinson8042 Eh, he still let the family do what they wanted. He would chide here and there but there were shenanagins aplenty.

  • @WarmLillie
    @WarmLillie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    I guess you can say this fantastic trope it’s a fun way to easily switch things

  • @CharlesJohnson-tp7qq
    @CharlesJohnson-tp7qq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    17:17 "Who got that engagement shot? I hope it was Peter."
    You can see that shot, and the entire engagement photoshoot in Peter Parker's new book Webs II

  • @GenerationWest
    @GenerationWest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I already mentioned my super love of the series prior ("You made fun of Hulk's Mama!" and Johnny screaming while She-Hulk was transforming), if I wanted good F4 content in screen, this was it (I also watch A LOT of Canadian TV, so this cast was a who's who of on screen and Canadian vo).
    I honestly didn't know this was a adaptation until years later, now in hindsight, it makes a lot of sense, it's such a early comic booky thing to do.
    Favorite petty moment from Doom? Valeria Richards's name... Doom is a Giga-Chad for that.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not a fan of what Waid did with theboriginal though.

    • @OverthinkingConde
      @OverthinkingConde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'd love a Video on Doom and Valeria

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@OverthinkingConde The surrogate daughter or the one Waid made doom kill in a big stunt?

    • @OverthinkingConde
      @OverthinkingConde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DIEGhostfish Actually, Valeria Von Doom, Franklin making her being born again twice influencing Roma... and how the first "alternative" version should’ve been the definitive. Poor Valeria, Doom lost love... It was Waid wanting to make Doom like Hannibal Lecter, when Doom is the original Lecter (as much as I love Hannibal).

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OverthinkingConde He just had a very specific view on doom as exceptionally evil. I like both Valeria Richards and Valeria von Doom a lot.

  • @kenshivinsmoke509
    @kenshivinsmoke509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Please talk about the episode of the Fantastic Four where Magneto bitches about traffic and has an existential crisis when Reed tricks him with a wooden gun.

  • @noy8940
    @noy8940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    World's Greatest Heroes was a bloody masterpiece. I still wish they followed through with the Peter/Spidey cameo

    • @chidaluokoro9104
      @chidaluokoro9104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      still hate reed and johnny hair

    • @mangareader7474
      @mangareader7474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chidaluokoro9104 the seem comically accurate for reed

    • @chidaluokoro9104
      @chidaluokoro9104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mangareader7474 Reed? No

    • @JS-hw8ve
      @JS-hw8ve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was loosely based on the movies, but this cartoon was the first time I ever liked the FF, even Reed. This was the best the FF ever were.

    • @justafan7472
      @justafan7472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always liked the idea of the fantastic four growing up. I watched the old 60's and 70's cartoons, and read the comics. Their powers were cool and they fought monsters, so being a little boy I loved that. However I found the characters either whiney, annoying, or borring. This cartoon actually made them likeable, and easier to relate to. Even Reed, sure he was always in his own head.... but you could see he wasn't arrogant about it. He was just distracted by the thousand thoughts he had going on. It made him endearing. He was more absent minded professor than overbearing jerk that he always kind of came across as. To me at least, I don't know if I am the only one who felt that way. Plus I just love that there was a scene of Ben juggling kids. I just found that funny.

  • @kemmdog4444
    @kemmdog4444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    When Doom was supposedly killed in FF 260 by Terrax and had to swap minds with a regular guy who witnessed the battle in a crowd.Aunt May was also there.Just imagine if Doom swapped minds with her instead.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Oh my god that would have been amazing.

    • @carloscrecelius9597
      @carloscrecelius9597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Aunt Doom, that sounds awesome!

    • @jpboursaw4469
      @jpboursaw4469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I want that What If!!!

    • @kemmdog4444
      @kemmdog4444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jpboursaw4469 Ditto

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@carloscrecelius9597 It's like the Golden Oldie all over again.

  • @vasp99
    @vasp99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Doom first conceived of body swapping due to his shock at the rising prices at the Latverian Sizzler's All One Might Care To Consume buffet . Thirty slozniks seemed high to Doom . He's NO ONE'S FOOL after after all . So in addiction to his eight dimensional dinner plates Doom developed the ability to consume that mountain of turnips , radishes and pickled beets using the bellies of various easily mind controlled dupes . Doom savored the flavor and those fools "enjoyed" the bloating , gas and mysterious weight gain . Doom remains svelte , slender yet PERFECTLY BUFF and Doom's financial prowess is the envy of lesser , hungrier restaurant goers .

    • @tatbat6665
      @tatbat6665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      WTF? 🤣LOLOLOLOLMFAO! The Fantastic Farts!

  • @topgig
    @topgig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I loved that early '60s Fantastic Four story because I thought it was so hilarious how much fun Doom was having when he was impersonating Reed. He was having so much fun that he couldn't resist keeping up the deception a little longer just so he could toy with the heroes a little more. It was very entertaining, and that episode of the animated series adapted the story nicely.

  • @arcticdino1650
    @arcticdino1650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I had a collection of old Fantastic Four comics as a kid, including this one, and what Doom says about the dinosaurs and brain size has always hurt *my* brain.
    Also the image of Doom laughing in Reed's body haunts me. Why does it look like that!?

    • @HandofOmega
      @HandofOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Feel the pain of Transformers fans, when Wheeljack reveals that the reason he built the (metal skinned, fire breathing) Dinobots to be so stupid was that historical dinosaurs had tiny brains!

  • @creativerealms
    @creativerealms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I quite liked that cartoon. It is pretty underrated. I loved its take on Doom.
    Also I loved that they got Dan Slott to write the She-Hulk episode since he was the current writer of the comic at that time.

  • @Torlik11
    @Torlik11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    "You can tell Reed is gonna be the vilain." Reed Richard is always the vilain. Even when he's the good guy.

    • @KingRogue
      @KingRogue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Reed being a dick is my favourite thing about him

    • @gabrieletraini3849
      @gabrieletraini3849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Not really, unbased take

    • @khhnator
      @khhnator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      but usually not by intent

    • @bobmularky7456
      @bobmularky7456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Oswald Cobblepot According to someone who's only FF exposure is Civil War.

    • @abloshow91
      @abloshow91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Stop saying this man saved countless lives he's saved the world more than hero he's the greatest most effective hero to exist. Man tortures himself about curing his friend everyday.

  • @VladyO
    @VladyO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I feel like writing Reed is a careful balancing act: he's always been meant to be a flawed and arrogant person with nonetheless a fundamental goodness in him, but how that shows varies wildly--half the time he's just a bit absent-minded yet still a loving father and husband, and half the time he's a dismissive jerk and a control freak (not helped by retcon upon retcon making questions as to whether or not he was evil all along).
    For me, definitive Reed is either by Mark Waid or Jonathan Hickman, where both runs have him taking important self-reflections that allow him to grow as a person. Which are then subsequently ignored because Civil War needed him to act like more of an asshole than usual and no one will ever forget that.

  • @Juicelee777ssj
    @Juicelee777ssj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I was always really fond of this series because this was the only time that I felt like they did Sue Richards justice. There are so many episodes where they show why she is the strongest member of the team. I think this may be the only adaptation that really did her right.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Avengers EMH did her right by having the Skrulls take her out first. I think they even explicitly SAY they picked Sue because she was the most powerful and also the most likely to figure them out. And she's drugged out for most of Cap's escape specifically BECAUSE the Skrulls are scared of her, and when she wakes up...

    • @l.n.3372
      @l.n.3372 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@DIEGhostfish
      Loved the episode of EMH when Doom knew Sue was replaced by a Skrull. But I have to wonder how Reed didn't notice if they were dating at the time. Either he's super distracted or he doesn't realize he's dating a Skrull xD

  • @Neverleterlun
    @Neverleterlun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The extreme Pettyness of Doom should be explored more. I do believe he is the one comic character more petty than golden age superman.

    • @HandofOmega
      @HandofOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I remember the makers of Twisted Toyfare Theater, which uses exaggerated personalities for Marvel and DC heroes (their Spidey has to be seen to be believed!) once noted that they realized the funniest way they could portray Doom...was to play him completely straight. In context, he's just a naturally funny character, without even meaning to be...

    • @rackstraw
      @rackstraw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Now I have Doom, Lois, and Jimmy stories in my head. DOOM SHALL MARRY LOIS LANE!

  • @ramonjaimez3006
    @ramonjaimez3006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I have a real soft spot in my heart for Doom levels of melodrama.
    But one has to wonder; who is the biggest Diva?
    Doom definitely has his moments, but so do Thanos and Apocalypse.

    • @brutalbeard9441
      @brutalbeard9441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Good question. Doom is definitely the most performative - he'll go out of his way to draw attention to himself. It's well earned though, as he is historically the biggest threat/hope of the omni-verse (debatable in comics, I know :-) )
      However, props to Apocalypse for being so extra just for the hell of it. It's not as earned as Doom (on a cosmic scale - for those he's up against it's earned)- but is also doesn't get in his way as much. His constant "tests" mean his diva nature is intended/indulged where as its a weakness/oversight for Doom's nature.
      Thanos I don't care for anyways - he's just strong. His threats are earned, but they're also not as performative as Doom/Apocalypse. Put Doom/Apocalypse in that position and they'd outperform (or be expected to) in the grandstanding. Thanos's lines just carry weight because he's the narrative tool - it's not as tied to his character.
      Apocalypse performs it perfectly, Doom lives and defines it :-D

    • @freddogrosso9835
      @freddogrosso9835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Doom talks about himself in the 3rd person. True diva.

  • @derbyjames240
    @derbyjames240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Re-inbiggens them," the most awesomest word ever!!!

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    *Sasha: **_"Also we're promised a gorgeous pin-up of the Invisible Girl. So I'm expecting the best looking blank page that I've ever seen."_*
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  • @imanicartwright4463
    @imanicartwright4463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Is it strange that no matter what Doom does in Reeds body he can't do or be more SUS than Reed is already?

    • @maymay5600
      @maymay5600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man hasn't have to do anything, Reed is straight up more villainous than any other villain 🤣
      Or he's just too asshole-ish to be with sue, till she divorces and go to either doom and get married and have kids
      Go to namor, marry him and have kids or go to black panther

    • @maymay5600
      @maymay5600 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Oswald Cobblepot uhhh, yeah lol

  • @Solas67
    @Solas67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite petty Doom moment is from the 20th anniversary issue from 1981, written and sumptuously drawn by John Byrne.
    Here they play with the miniaturisation theme again, as we have the four seemingly back where they started in 1961 pre-powers and Reed constantly befuddled and tormented by Victor.
    It's all in a miniature town which the four are connected to courtesy of the Puppet Master and Doom!
    So he could kill them but no! Doom must torment Reed! ....until Reed figures it out and gives their miniature selves powers and they defeat him and *he* is stuck in the miniature town. Hands down one of my favorite FF stories and has Doom in full petty vengeance mode.

    • @jhornacek
      @jhornacek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Terror In Tiny Town!

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember when Sue gave me a Spicy Fan photo of her for the holidays. It was a blank photo but it had the FF logo on it, so I guess....Thank You? ❤
    -T'Challa

    • @HandofOmega
      @HandofOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm, he could actually have the tech to develop the photo and see what's not there, so careful, Sue! Now I'm wondering if Sue has been secretly photobombing most of the MU and no one knows about it...

  • @dallasgrey4247
    @dallasgrey4247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The “Is Spider-Man Involved?” caption made me laugh so hard that the hot tea that was in my mouth is now all over my rug.
    Ps. Am I the only one who remembers that Doom was the apprentice of The Marquis of Death? Because Marvel never bring it up, even though there’s a lot of stories that can come from there.

    • @HandofOmega
      @HandofOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I remember that, but was wondering if it's still even canon...Since Doom in that storyline had been said to have been time traveling extensively, I always wondered if that was set after Doom 2099...

    • @camerondodge2070
      @camerondodge2070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My first issue of FF was the one with that reveal, and I've wondered ever since if they'll ever do anything with it.

    • @HandofOmega
      @HandofOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@camerondodge2070 I doubt it. Comic characters tend to be "plastic", that is, they revert to their "classic" forms after a writer does something Creative with them. The Doom in that story was a VAST departure from the way he's been portrayed before and after, so it's unlikely any other creators want to deal with that. Unless it's been actively retconned, it will remain a bit of continuity referred to in wikis, but will likely never appear in a story ever again...

    • @dallasgrey4247
      @dallasgrey4247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HandofOmega It's canon. And it is set before Doom 2099.

  • @kratoscraken5614
    @kratoscraken5614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    FF 2006 was the best representation👍I wondered why it never got much notice but then I'm thinking because the FF has always been "C" listed so when it was finally done right no one believed it 🤔

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I would love to see you cover the issue where Doom takes control of Sue’s body and cites her as the most powerful of the FF

  • @Kitty-om9il
    @Kitty-om9il 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Realy loved all the Reed x Sue moments in this show, in my opinion this was the best portrayal of the two, I am incredibly nostalgic for this tv series, I used to watch it on Cartoon Network as a child, now I want to re-watch it.
    So, thank you

  • @kidflashjnpr6905
    @kidflashjnpr6905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes is AMAZING! Sure, it's somewhat juvenile with it's humor- more than other shows in the proposed "Yostiverse" - but it's still REALLY good. My favorite adaptation of the FF. Especially the voice acting! The voice cast is AMAZING. Any time I show the show to a friend I get the same first reaction: "I love Mr Fantastic's voice"

  • @TheAwesomeAlan
    @TheAwesomeAlan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I loved the Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes plot where they switched bodies. As a kid, I hadn't ready any comics or seen any body swaps between the characters before, so I thought this was leading to a major storyline that would've continued in the show. I loved that show so much.

    • @maymay5600
      @maymay5600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bruhhh, the show was my childhood too on cartoon network, in 2005 😭
      Good times
      Edit: in 2006, getting years wrong, because it's been that long, but early cartoon network days were awesome, especially watching fantastic four cartoon

  • @emilianovillarruelhernande343
    @emilianovillarruelhernande343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really hope the mcu makes justice to doom as villain, he’s been forgotten far too long

  • @AussieDragoon
    @AussieDragoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really liked Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes...outside of Johnny's voice. Brian Dobson is my favorite Thing voice, though I think the '94 series had the overall best cast in terms of the core four. I really liked its art style (again outside of Martin Mystery Johnny) and I think that it did a good job of making Sue's character work and give her more of a set role on the team since her and Reed aren't explicitly an item or have gone out yet unlike the comics and other adaptations.

  • @comicdog5097
    @comicdog5097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am actually watching this series currently at the time of recording and love it. Just watched the Mole Man episode yesterday. Another solid adaptation of a goofy early F4 story

  • @panpizza7924
    @panpizza7924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this show was the shiiiiiit when i was watching it. it seriously cemented the ff as one of my favorite things in comics.

  • @scofisticated
    @scofisticated 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE the aughts FF show. So slick, so well constructed. And looking back at it now, so consistent with the zeitgeist of the FF. This helped me -get- the FF. And to this day, these are the voices I hear when I read an FF book. Now there were times I felt weird like I was jumping in at the middle of the story. But now I see, there were broadcasting shenanigans that essential made me do that. Thanks for the context, Sasha.

  • @KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
    @KhanhNguyen-mh5ec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doom Reed: Hey Sue, I love you. Screw science research. Let us make out tonight.
    Sue: Por Que? Reed are you ok?
    Doom Reed: Never been better!

  • @alejandrocervantes3624
    @alejandrocervantes3624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a memory of this show, a scene during a gala/party after the battle of the episode was done and the fantastic 4 were atending/hosting and its a stablishing shot of Johnny on stage performing a rap remix version of the infamous "flame on song" he also performed in an older series, only for a few seconds before the shot pans off to Sue & Reed talking 😳 I swear it happend!

  • @johnnelson63
    @johnnelson63 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad to see you mention the FF cartoon, “World’s Greatest Heroes.” I appreciate the faithful adaptation and attention to detail (look for Ben’s custom toilet, complete with grinder cylinders).

  • @AzmiAb
    @AzmiAb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That cartoon was part of my childhood!

  • @jimgillespie6109
    @jimgillespie6109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad to see the love for this FF series. I liked it a lot, and hope you do some more videos about it.

  • @robertonline6543
    @robertonline6543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK YOU!!! you mentioned my favorite cartoon... yeah I wasn't crazy about animation but the stories were pretty great. Also I think some of the writers were the guys that did hulk vs movies which are pretty great! My favorite episode is when Johnny and Ben stick namor in a tank and Johnny goes...here fishy fishy fishy...Ben says do you like pebbles or flakes? LMAO

  • @UncleMuin
    @UncleMuin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was never able to catch this show when it was on. Thanks for reminding me about it, I'll go back and stream it.

  • @fredfunes6284
    @fredfunes6284 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for shedding light on this HIGHLY underrated FF show! It was one of my favorite iterations of the team. So many great episodes. Especially the ones with guest appearances from She-Hulk and Ant- Man.

  • @rebgates
    @rebgates 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Omg I need to know what issue it is where Doom swaps bodies with Daredevil, it sounds amazing from the premise alone.
    Unrelated I have the 60s omnibus run on Daredevil and as you noted it is fascinating to see in the early comics where the characters are. In Daredevil at least it takes a long time before Foggy gets any personality traits above best friend and low key jealous.

    • @freddogrosso9835
      @freddogrosso9835 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. I wanna know about that one too. So, Matt gets his eyesight back during the swap?

    • @rebgates
      @rebgates 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@freddogrosso9835 I would assume so, I wonder if a search will yield anything

    • @rebgates
      @rebgates 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@freddogrosso9835 apparently it is issues 37 and 38 of Daredevil (which the 60s run omnibus collects issues 1-41)

  • @hawkingbishop
    @hawkingbishop ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve never seen that show but I’m gonna check it out now. Loved your vid!

  • @HandofOmega
    @HandofOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Worth noting that the Chris Claremont storyline alluded to is the first appearance of Valeria! Sorta...This Valeria is a teen aged time traveler who came back from a future where she is the daughter of Sue and Doom (hinted to be a Reed who never escaped Doom's body, but she doesn't know that). The Valeria we know is Waid retconning Byrne's famous "miscarriage" storyline...I can't imagine Byrne is happy about that, and as much as I do like Val, I have misgivings about that as well.

  • @cookieDaXapper
    @cookieDaXapper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Sasha, the ever-studying (in a Casual way), your passion is duly noted, and the Invisible Woman wig and eye shadow are AWESOME. I would have to say that when the Submariner returns is one of the best early FF stories. Namor sending a hoard of deep sea monsters to punish New York would be EPIC to capture in a modern sense. Superior review and I am sorry I missed this particular cartoon series, looks like it was pretty good. (may have to look it up) PEACE dear Sister and God bless.

  • @sketchasaurrex4087
    @sketchasaurrex4087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never saw that cartoon series. There's so many I missed while in college.

  • @michaelgarza6735
    @michaelgarza6735 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see some Fantastic Four content on the channel...!

  • @karlcollins2361
    @karlcollins2361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been meaning to give that series a watch. Art looks good and i think the voice actors are perfect. & I love a good body swap story!

  • @mungkfirst
    @mungkfirst 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel. Just watched your live stream from Feb. Code of Hero is the best Beast Wars episode.

  • @incognitoperson1211
    @incognitoperson1211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the animated FF series, I still have them on DVD; it along with ultimate avengers and next avengers heroes of tomorrow we're my introduction to marvel not the MCU. And ever since then have held a special place in my heart.

  • @ainathiel
    @ainathiel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I remember that show and I liked it.

  • @ScottKrissPittardMcAree
    @ScottKrissPittardMcAree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:15 that made me laugh way too much. 😂

  • @brianthompson8364
    @brianthompson8364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! your vids are so funny, thank you. 🤣

  • @s1mp50n4
    @s1mp50n4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember seeing ads for this show in magazines back in the day and was always interested in watching it but could never find it back then. Thanks for reminding me it existed. I'm gonna go binge it on Disney+ since it looks like it's on there.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Doomreed's laughing face is amazing. REEDPOG

  • @BThings
    @BThings 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something I like about your videos about Silver Age comics is how it can really highlight the interplay between creativity and productivity/deadlines. So many monthly comics (then and now) will feel rushed, or like non-final drafts, yet they still manage to speak to things in interesting ways. It's what makes subsequent adaptations cool (when done well), since it allows the story to be refined, even if it isn't in the same way that the original creators might have refined it in the original medium.

  • @DogWalkerBill
    @DogWalkerBill 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marvel was into shrinking things. One of my all time favorite Hulk adventures (circa 1972) was where he gets shrunk down to insect size and has adventures in a garden for awhile. It was written by great science fiction writer, Harlan Ellison.

  • @samslash9
    @samslash9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember that show. It was fun. I'll probably give that a rewatch

  • @BrandonVout
    @BrandonVout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to watch that show as a kid (I remember this episode!), it's just as gorgeous as I remembered.

  • @TheDukeofMadness
    @TheDukeofMadness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are the reason I'm happily a long term supporter of this channel (Over 18 months). The content is always eclectic in the extreme.

  • @Chulips22
    @Chulips22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So happy there are people who remember the animated series! I don't remember any specific episode enough to have a fave but I enjoyed the theme song.

  • @qwertyuiopgarth
    @qwertyuiopgarth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have added this Fantastic Four animated series to my Disney+ watchlist. Thank you.

  • @mickeymouse7726
    @mickeymouse7726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic Four world's greatest heroes is such a great show

  • @MoramothHauntz
    @MoramothHauntz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally forgot about that F4 cartoon series. I had to add it to my watch list. Thanks Sasha

  • @jeffhicks6199
    @jeffhicks6199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad to see the 2000s Fantastic Four cartoon get some praise. It was well done and I suggest a binge on Disney+ to everyone. This was a great episode to highlight how that animated series updated original stories. Nice job pointing out the connections and updates. I enjoyed the 1990s Fantastic Four series because it is great to see the comics come to life. Very true to the original except for the Galactus story, which switched out characters. If you are taking suggestions, an episode on the fantastic four cartoons (yes even the Herbie one, but feel free to shred it) would be fun.

  • @KierTheScrivener
    @KierTheScrivener 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll need to check this out!

  • @kaotic300
    @kaotic300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that show is easily my favorite version of the F4, the costumes and episodes based on old comics made it really awesome. glad to hear it getting some attention! :D

  • @alterclark1
    @alterclark1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heart ur thumbnails

  • @mattlatham8959
    @mattlatham8959 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha! Perfect wig choice, but missed opportunity to work some blue and white into your wardrobe! Now I need to go find that animated show!

  • @247wonderwoman
    @247wonderwoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved watching that on ytv crunch in the mornings

  • @MakThaNife
    @MakThaNife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love when you cover silver age and bronze age stuff.

  • @freddogrosso9835
    @freddogrosso9835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh, boy I have some nice memories from that show. It was funny as hell.
    Preparing for a mission:
    Reed: Johnny, I want you to...
    Johnny: (to Sue and Ben) Haha! He picked me first, losers!
    Underground cave:
    Reed: Oh, I have the perfect thing. It's and halogen lantern that...
    Johnny: (lights up his hand). OK, let's go.
    Reed: But my lantern. It's made for...
    Ben: Don't worry. We'll use your lamp another time, buddy.
    Johnny is super charged, emiting more heat than usual. Flies close to the ground, melting the tires of a car. The couple inside:
    Woman: I love you Johnny!!
    Man: Gee. Thanks a lot, Torch.

    • @HandofOmega
      @HandofOmega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Johnny on first seeing Namor: "Dude...look at his EARS!! LOL!!" *Not* helpful to diplomacy with Atlantis...

  • @ScottWaa
    @ScottWaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not a huge fan of Fantastic Four, but I love that you cover these stories. Also I see Capt has move on from Ironman, he never was a team player. 🤣

  • @TheArkhamLantern
    @TheArkhamLantern 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that you brought attention to that FF animated series 😍
    It's highly underrated as an adaptation of the FF. I recommend anyone with a Disney Plus to watch it.

  • @raymedrano5181
    @raymedrano5181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    FANTASTIC video, as always! May I suggest a topic that I think you'll have fun diving into? The brief time the F4 team consisted of The Thing, Johnny Storm, Sharon Ventura, and Crystal of the Inhumans? It was wild, and worth mentioning!
    Thank you again for continuing to talk about the Fantastic 4!

  • @juliagoodwin9510
    @juliagoodwin9510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see someone giving this Fantastic 4 cartoon its due. I feel like its an underrated show.

  • @moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115
    @moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Ignore the speedo!" 🤣😂
    Oh, how I wish that I could be in the room when Sasha writes her video scripts! 😁

  • @adamstriebich530
    @adamstriebich530 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hickman’s Fantastic Four is my fav comic book story ever. Good lord I love that man

  • @T4N7
    @T4N7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr Doom waiting in that pose for Mr Fantastic to arrive makes me realize that the guy who played the 2nd in command on Star Trek: Next Generation needs to play Dr Doom. He does that pose all the time cuz of a back injury n also sits down on chairs weird but I love every quirky second of it n now he is my only pick for the next Dr Doom

  • @bethanyjackson2719
    @bethanyjackson2719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that show, it was my introduction to the Fantastic Four!

  • @Rahhelthethird
    @Rahhelthethird 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:13 "Is Spider-Man involved? A Commentary by publisher J. Jonah Jameson"
    I just can't...If only we also got Peter's reaction to that commentary!

  • @JohnWilsonComicsGuy
    @JohnWilsonComicsGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually love this FF series and have rewatched it a couple of times since it came to Disney+. I enjoy the art style, the characterizations (especially Ben), and the way that it began to bring in pieces of the larger Marvel Universe. It's too bad that it didn't get to have the same longevity as some other Marvel series.

  • @jlgirlxox
    @jlgirlxox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really loved this animated series as a kid- it doesn’t get enough love!

  • @thr33xgaming32
    @thr33xgaming32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this show! Super underated adaptation, but it always reminds me why we love the FF

  • @grahamcann1761
    @grahamcann1761 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a fan of every Fantastic Four series that doesn't have a Humanoid Experimental Robot B-type Integrated Electronics.
    As always thank you so very much for the video.

  • @richardleatherman5075
    @richardleatherman5075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVED the Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes. Do the skrulls episode comparison to the comic (Iss. #2 I think)

  • @Flytee83
    @Flytee83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    holy shit, I'd completely forgotten about the fantastic 4 tv show. Thank you for triggering an embedded childhood memory.

  • @ericmci
    @ericmci 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was totally underrated animated series. Some really good story telling and pacing. I dismissed it for thtle animation at first bc of that Vaseline on the lens effect but I'm really glad I gave it a chance.

  • @GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm
    @GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video is officially certified by the Recommending Ones & Zeros.

  • @seanfulldark
    @seanfulldark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Obviously the best petty Doom brain swapping, was when Johnny storm was the bouncer at an avengers party and was swapped with Dr. doom just so that way doom could go to the party when Johnny answered the door! Dr. Doom "Eat your heart out Maleficent! DOOM gets into all the parties, even when he's not invited! Always welcome!"

    • @camerondodge2070
      @camerondodge2070 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you remember what issue that was, or what story? Because I really want to find that now.

    • @seanfulldark
      @seanfulldark 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@camerondodge2070 Sadly no because I found that out through death battle! The clip is shown from, most likely an avengers issue though because we do get to see a couple of the party guests. The episode of that battle is Dr. doom versus Lex Luther!

  • @sliverfire7555
    @sliverfire7555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Classic comic goodness