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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2024
- Alright so since I covered all the characters, I figured that I'd cover every single branching path in this game and how they all differ from each other. The ones that matter and the ones that don't!
As usual, SPOILER WARNING, because while I don't go into the specific details of the endings, I will go into map details and how different splits vary and contribute towards certain endings!
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:44 Chapter 3-6
4:23 Chapter 7-8
10:25 Chapter 9-10
18:19 Chapter 11-12
21:15 Chapter 13-14
26:50 Chapter 15
31:16 Chapter 16 RANT
32:06 Chapter 17 Onwards
33:40 Conclusions
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For the hyzante trial, if you have enough evidence but answer benedict's questions wrong, you actually win the trial and get a free grounding amulet before you head to the arena.
Indeed, answer Benedict wrong but convince the other members of the Saintly Seven with evidence and not only do you get the grounding amulet, but a slight change in dialogue for both winning and as soon as the battle starts.
I don’t think it’s necessarily answering wrong I retried and whatever combo of words didn’t let me win so I just battled I think it’d based on conviction points
I got the grounding amulet and ended up in the arena. I wonder how I was supposed to answer Benedict, in that case.
@@l.n.3372 the 1st question is the 1st answer, the 2nd question is the 2nd answer, and the 3rd question is the 3rd answer.
@@DarknessDpa
Wow that's easy to remember. If only I knew this 2 weeks ago xD at this point, I don't even remember the questions Benedict asked.
I love how the path to the true ending makes so much sense when you really think about what they each bring and why each of these moments really matters.
- Chapter 7: Whether you give Roland up or choose to defend him, you will ultimately learn of the fire traps. That is critical in stopping Hyzante's army's advance (despite how it's entirely optional). This is something that Benedict knows well about, hence why he's the one that leads this regiment.
- Chapter 9: Transporting the illegal salt is the means to get to Aesfrost and meet Svarog, a man that we see scenes of being a very loving father to his son. It's ultimately an opportunity that you normally don't get.
- Chapter 10: Showing Roland's face to Svarog allows us to win over his trust. That's absolutely necessary to secure an ally in Aesfrost that Roland can trust, rather than Gustadolph. This is why Roland leads his regiment to Aesfrost.
- Chapter 11: Choosing to defend the Roselle is critical for the Golden Ending because when you go to rescue the Roselle from the Source, Jerrom leads the other Roselle of the village to attack Hyzante, which helps Frederica's regiment to escape.
- Chapter 15: It isn't about Milo, really. The reason why going to Symon is important is because something is said by Symon personally that Benedict doesn't state, which Serenoa reiterates during the Golden Route. As he dies, Symon tells Serenoa to "forge his own path" and "lead" the people. If you don't go to see Symon yourself, all Benedict does is tell Serenoa of his father's passing and of the origin of his birth. Going there personally and listening to Symon's last words was a strong moment of resolve for Serenoa because it later helped Serenoa realizes that he HAS to be the one to lead his friends and forge a new path that differs from the others, which is what makes him refrain from using the Scales of Conviction and instead form a strategy to help everyone.
Which would also explain why the game locks you out if you use the fire traps in Chapter 7-Defend...you effectively "need" them.
If Avlora uses her ultimate on a ship she could very well end up sinking it considering that she pretty much destroys the ground under her, so the fact that she doesn’t is a cool attention to detail.
First blind playthrough I got Benedict’s Liberty ending and aside from that ominous epilogue I don’t regret it, it was pretty good, so were the other routes, the horse has been vaporized at this point but I can’t help and imagine what if fates handled its narrative this well.
I've only had time to finish one playthrough so far and man it was a great run through. Love this game.
What ending did you get first run?
Same. I got the Benedict ending because being anti-religion in video games is fun.
@@thecursed_1lordofcats738 I disliked benedict... I thought he would agree on you for everything, but I got shocked when he didnt agree on saving the roselle... and wanted to gain the salt for power...
@@erickreyes7902 understandable, but in my opinion, Benedict's strategy seemed the most reasonable that had the potential to help to most people without submitting to the corrupt church. Frederica's plan seemed reasonable but wouldn't benefit as many people and I ain't bout to embrace religion with Roland.
@@thecursed_1lordofcats738 edgy, stunning, and brave
First time playing, I looked at it from Seranoa's view point. I sided with my wife. I was frustrated that I could not get the group to do the illegal salt trade my first time but since I got locked out of it I 100% sided with Fredoricka and the Roselle. I got happy when we finally decided to liberate the Roselle. I get WHY we couldn't do it earlier but I was hoping that we would be able to. 100% loved my ending.
Totally relate to that
Heads up for NG+ players, Items DO NOT RESPAWN in the exploration part, kept trying to search every map with no results
Chapter 13 where you fight and slay both Thalas and Erika was the best for me. Super sweet revenge to take their smugs off their faces because they treated my waifu Frederica rudely!
Yeah it was poetic justice and I'm glad you do it on every route haha! I wish they were a tad bit more involved in the plot though rather than just being kinda shitty snot rosed brats
Dude I felt so bad killing them when I invaded the castle
@@LinkKing7 I guess they only really existed because Aesfrost needed more characters to use as boss fights
Those scumbag twins got what was coming
btw I don't think Aesfrost and Hyzante's delegations came in preparations for Serenoa's and Frederica's wedding, but to celebrate joined operation in Norzelia's Grand Mines. As they said it a lot of time in the first few chapters nobody really cared about that marriage which is why Serenoa and Frederica were chosen as partners, because if war started nobody would care if Frederica was to be taken hostage.
Yeah, this. They were there to celebrate the joint mining venture via the banquet and tournament. You can’t exactly celebrate a wedding when the bride doesn’t even have a dress yet
Right, of course I mess that up, but I guess it doesn't matter because it's not a decision hahaha
Right now I am going through my third playthrough. I got the TE in my second, and now I just want to see all routes and get all characters in my party.
30:30 I think the reason why is Serenoa hear his dad's final words personally where he was told to "follow his heart and be the leader" or something like that. But in other routes, the last words was delivered through Benedict, and he believes that mean Serenoa should be the king.
Yeah I guess that makes sense in a way. Hearing it from his dad is definitely a far less warped version of Benedict's ambitions
Good thought. It is also very curious to me why returning to wolford is a requirement. The other conditions are pretty straight forward
@@Luden0906 Perhaps because in the other two(Staying with Roland and going with Frederica), Roland ends kills Patriatte in front of the civilians and thus shaking their faith in him and his faith in himself.
As complex as the writing is, it still adheres pretty closely to the JRPG formula if you think about it. I nearly got locked into the Golden ending just by making the most JRPG trope choices before learning at the last minute that there is a Golden path and I was on it.
It seems that I don't still understand the JRPG formula even though I have played a fair sharr of them
What is the jrpg formula?
Yeah, basically if you earn as many allies as you can, you'll get the golden route
@@asaka616 Protect your boy, champion the obviously special race of people, be wary of obviously bad people, minimize civilian suffering etc etc. The only tricky choice IMO was to smuggle the salt or not. But even then, just reporting Sorsley seemed too easy, and I got the feeling the game really wanted me to go on a sneaky little adventure at that point.
@@InkWavve This is true. The salt trade was the only one that I failed to do. I thought you need to be righteous as always. Just as what most JRPGs do. I didn't think that sometimes protagonists must do some shady tactics.
You are a little bit off regarding the chapter 10 trial. Depending on how well you do in the trial, you can possibly get a Grounding Charm to save yourself some suffering with the spike traps.
Video looks epic! I want to do one more playthrough myself before I watch this, but I’ll definitely come back to it soon!
The results of the trial in chapter 10 matter slightly. The map is the same but if they find Sorsley guilty they give you a grounding amulet to help on the battle. If they find you guilty you don't get the amulet.
Yeah I always forget to mention the amulet haha!
Thanks for the great vid! I went through my first play through and ended with the morality ending and it was really fun! I’m glad your videos convinced me that I would like it because I really do!
I’m currently going through my second play through trying to get the true ending so this vid helps alot!
Yessss, the game is so much fun I'm glad that other people are picking it up and playing it!
Your Triangle Strategy guides are the only ones I found on TH-cam that are excellent. Most other guides for this game aren't good. I do wish you'd go over a strategy on how to save Roland on your first playthrough. It's difficult getting this path to work on your first playthrough because you can't see your morale.
I found refusing teliore much easier (I was playing on hard). In accepting teliore roland got easily surrounded and killed which resulted in losing. With refusing teliore I just stayed up and set up a lot of traps to keep rufus away.
Wow, I had absolutely no trouble with the mines. I used Anna's Take Cover ability to go for all the bombs while letting the other party take care of the enemies. I found it to be one of my favorite maps in the game.
Having milo also helps a ton
22:30 I loved that bridge fight when I did it, plenty of targets for my mages and Serenoas spin slash, it was the first time I felt like I was playing an FFT game where I was just brute forcing it lol. It's actually been the easiest map I've done so far. I went left first and killed everyone and then turned around and killed them lol, I left Thalas and Erika alive ti the end.
Lol a couple of things:
- foremost thank you for this amazing content. You truly can run a monopoly on triangle strategy content since this amazing hidden gem of a game hasn’t become mainstream and not many of the rpg TH-camrs have made much in this game.
- when you said you talk to Benedict and he asks you questions and if you finished the exploration right leads you to x y or z is a slightly off. You speak to the Roselian elder. You’ll discover a mirror, a pelt which is common and found throughout the game in roselian places and a rock that requires you to speak to Benedict first then Frederica and then you go back to elder. This chain reaction creates Frederica to escort the elder out and you can see he was sitting on the key to expose the dirty salt trader of the Saintly Seven. When you ask the elder and show you found rock you keep it and can present that to the heirophant and Saintly Seven. It isn’t truly enough evidence but this sends you to the battle ground you spoke of and is one of the easier outcomes. You’ll face the dirty salt trader but it’s a small map.
- I also will not many people said you get milo in chapter 13,14 temporarily I would tell y’all that it’s not a lot. She only shows up in dialogue and few battles you have in these chapters. You also get her pretty late in chapter 15. One would argue it’s really chapter 16 start. She is an amazing character but it’s a shame you get her so late game.
My question is, if you aren’t to burn down the Wolfort early on when avlora comes for you with her soldiers….lol how the hell did y’all beat her? I will say triangle strategy is a hard game to grind. So to be over powered at this tuff with tavern at your disposal for mock battles. I’d like tips on this so in new game plus I don’t burn down Wolfort to get the golden path.
For beating Avlora without fire traps, you can use Jens to build a ladder that lets your characters (specifically mages and archers) fight safely from the tops of houses.
Ah I actually did forget the part where the elder asks questions and you need to reveal the rest of the investigation info I guess but oh well, hopefully people are a biiiiit more thorough than the summaries I gave haha!
And well, in NG+ you'll find that you have a lot of very strong units now and a lot of tools that will make Avlora a bit easier than she was on a normal NG run. I can't remember exactly what I did on that map to beat her but yes, there is the option to cheese the entire map from on top of a house with Jens's ladder too and putting archers and mages up there!
Lol, I just did the map on first run and had to pretty much watch in horror as my fighters all got slaughtered... Except I managed to cheese Avlora with Hughette and for some reason most soldiers will not even try getting on the center house rooftops, so my physician was able to kill most archers and the one smart shieldbearer who tried attacking her there, despite my lacking ladders or a reason she should be safe there...
I only finished Benedict's route because I kinda felt like his way of doing things would achieve Frederica's goals as well and I thought that what Roland was doing was dumb. second playthrough I didn't care for spoilers so once I realized there was a fourth route I chose to follow it... and then I found out almost all my units needed to grind because of how that route starts and since this sunday I haven't really touched it.
also I still preffer playing chapter 16 than chapter one on ng+, because in chapter 16 you can chose your units, so your Roland will stay on the bench as he should in any mission that you can put him there. Also I need my DS in my team or I just don't have enought damage. I think I got him around chapter 16 in my first playthrough so I had to be pretty moral. I mean once I unlocked scouting I only had one character left to unlock and it was time boi because I had like 400 too little Utility and both my Morality and Liberty slightly above 1600(unlocked two characters at the same time).
Yeah, finding out about the split parties was really annoying for me as well, but at least leveling up units to catch them up is pretty easy and quick so I just did that since I also did the true ending second like you did. I was planning on maxing out all the units anyways so I didn't mind it too much.
Chapter 1 on NG+ isn't that bad actually since you can manipulate the AI a bit with Roland to have them chase him all the way to the corner with the houses while you huddle up behind the bridge with the rest and slowly choke point the enemies. It's time consuming but it's not difficult.
I assume you say felt his way because then once you did his path it turned out nope Rossele still are facing persecution and Frederica clearly isn't happy in the end card along with Serenoa who didn't want to be king. It says a lot when Frederica starts addressing Serenoa as your majesty instead of my love like she does earlier and if you do Roland's path where she leaves Serenoa even tells her he would not want to bind her convictions to his own so Benedict path really is bad for all the conviction path characters aside from Benedict but I would say even that is put into question because devs had to throw in Benedict thanking Serenoa in Golden path for not having his conviction path happen. Really Frederica's is the best ending of the 3 as shown with the end card.
@@SonicLegends If they do exactly what they said they would do then it deffinitely isn't the best. They just leave everything behind and don't care what happens in Norzelia. Benedict's is deffinitely best, even if it isn't perfect. Lets be honest that Hyzante is the real problem in this story so Roland's ending is worst, and then Frederica's. That is my opinion tho.
I will save this video and go back to it once I finish my first run.
9a - you fight the bandits
10aa - you fight sycras
10ab you fight rufus at the arena
Well I got Trish at first but I reloaded to get Milo but now I guess I will end up having to do 5 playthroughs instead of only 4… Thanks for not spoiling the endings as well. I was kind of scared to watch this video 😆
Triangle strategy content is pog
Hell yeah
I'm really enjoying this game!!!
Small error but the lords were not actually gathering for Seranoa and Frederica’s marriage. I am in like chapter 11 and they are not married yet. They were gathering for a banquet and tournament to celebrate the mines opening.
I've been trying my damndest to try and stay on the golden path. Its been tough but I think I'm doing a decent job (Ch 11 so far)
side note: I was forced to give up Roland. Couldnt convince enough people to take my side. I'm super salty about that towards some of my best units
How did you manage to convince everyone at chapter 10? I tried 3 times and still couldn't convince everyone.
Ah, yeah that can sometimes happen if your convictions aren't high enough. I got forced down an ending I didn't want at the end of the game because of it haha
@@thecursed_1lordofcats738 I almost lost that too. Its tough convincing them
@@LinkKing7 I had a low point value and learned that the hard way lol
what? you can actualy lose goin the way you want? i mean, you dont use allways the answere that got unlocked you know? you say the things that make the most sense, i never had any proplems takin the way i wanted, because at least it was 1 person more then the rest for the way i wanted to go, i have to wonder how one may not be able to go the way they want to
I am currently in before the route split for CH 17 just grinding for items so it's interesting to know some of the other split points for what I did and Protecting Roland and heading back to Wolfort are the only ones I did route wise for battles in side for the true ending so the rest can be fresh maps for me.
For Denying Telliore's Request map was pretty easy with ranged allies seeing as you have the uphill advantage.
The Avloria fight in the castle is where I not only used 10+ Thunderstones in the fountain but somehow I turned the tide to where I was able to beat all enemies before beating Avloria even with her Ulti.
The CH 16 mines I can very much understand why it might be disliked but I still was fine with it as for one your team can gather TP pretty well in exchange for the track and two Anna is great for this map since she can go undercover and defuse the bombs no problem at least for me.
thank you for this video.
Amazing!
7:56 Wow, I was not expecting that! To me the fight in the Telliore demesne is one of the hardest in the whole game. I'm aware how easy you can cheese it but trying to complete it "clean" aka without any of your units dying its SO tough, especially at the begining when everybody is split off, while fighting Rufus in Wolffort demesne felt like I was in control the whole time
Edit: this is for hard mode. Can't say how different it is on lower difficulties
Do not underestimate the power of ladders!
I’m on the final stretch of my first run, as without planning I ended up picking the Liberty option every time it was available to me. I just always thought that was the best option.
That's interesting that that happened with you haha. Mine was kind of all over the place but mostly leaned Utility with Liberty closely behind I think!
At the end of the video, you say that you'll do another video talking about the story/character specifics for the final four splits. Please do! I played the game one time through on hard mode (with no changing it to easy, ever), and I played it blind (not knowing about the golden route). Ended up being sad about the ending of Frederica's path. But I"m not the type to play new game +, ever. So you doing that video would be awesome.
Yep, I will start to get to the analytical and more scripted content pretty soon, just want to put out the more "help-based" vids first since it's still the early days of the game and I think a lot of people will want stuff that isn't too spoilery on story or characters!
I already have all the video ideas listed out and we'll be going DEEP into it!
Benedict Route >>> All other routes
Including the "Golden" route
>Lord Serenoa should we use mustard gas, firebomb the villages, or poison the rivers?
>Hm that's a tough choice Benedict, bring out the Scales of Conviction!
LOL, I mean that's pretty acuurate for Benedict. WIN AT ALL COSTS!
yeah if you deliver the salt, in Ch 9 you get attacked by Travis and Trish, then in 10 if you reveal Roland's identity, Sycruse comes attack you bc he wants to arrest Svarog for salt smuggling
For Sorsley's camp route, I had the card skill to make everyone move 3 more spaces (so 3H Stride Lite), so I used that the first turn to get everyone as close to each other as possible, used Serenoa and Erador to plug the left opening then went from there
Yeah I got that one a bit mixed up in my head since this video was unscripted! And yeah I guess that is a valid tactic to use in that chapter. It was fairly tough keeping them alive on my route, I didn't think of that but I used Lightwave instead
I liked Chapter 16 when I played through on Easy. I didn't find it overly challenging, but it took some time which is fine. I look forward to going through the game again on Normal and then Hard and see what the difference is. There were a few points along the way where I was concerned that I might not win a battle, but I never lost one. I suspect when I go up a difficulty level, that will change.
It's not difficult, it's just a long slog really IMO that's more tedious than it needs to be. Didn't find it particularly engaging
Well I got the everyone dies and you are forgotten by history ending 😞
The best ending in the game!
That was sooo useful! I just realized I did everything to unlock the "good ending" without knowing but I gave fire to a house in avlora fight... man that sucks
Same here. Playing blind But let 1 house burn.
Lol I’m sure y’all burned 1 house that had avlora near by cause think many of us did that. To me there was no other way. I feel from what I gather golden path is really only a thing in second run with new game plus since you more leveled
Pretty happy I didn't burn any houses. It was early enough in the game where thankfully Serenoa and Roland could actually take more hits, so I turtled up on both staircases with Serenoa and Julio acting as TP battery, Benedict and Roland on the other side, and Anna was the only one running out to the archers on the rooftops abusing stealth as she does to keep them from harassing my units.
The map actually HEAVILY loads up the left side of the map, so the Roland/Benedict blockade may not have been necessary, but all of my other fighters were posted behind Serenoa and Julio helping thin the herd. Final reinforcements threw me for a bit of a snag but thankfully I killed the flankers with Mage AoEs and Hughette quickly enough to refocus the front since I was determined to keep Julio and Serenoa planted (if Avlora got through I was gonna lose, badly).
Thankfully Benedict got to leave his post a couple times to buff up Serenoa's defenses too. Luckily once the final reinforcements happened Anna was done and able to come help Roland from dying.
Last tidbit about the Roland/Benedict blockade is that if I DIDN'T have them there the AI's programming might've tried to send more that way to break through, so blocking both stairways may be critical to that strat.
EDIT: Still gotta do two playthroughs though because I didn't help the illegal salt trade. >.> Frederica's side all the way...so it seems my path is decided besides getting Milo (the one character I am determined to recruit).
I happened to stumble into the golden route path. I didn't burn a house because I saw a tips video that describes using choke points to your advantage and I tried that strategy on that map. I protected the roselle and did the salt trade because I wasn't convinced it was a bad thing to do. I thought I made a mistake after how bad they make you feel in the chapter. Finally, when milo said she was going to Wolfort I decided to go there too hahaha! Super stoked it worked out that way for me. Although I think I may do another playthrough to see what happens with other choices and get some characters I missed out on.
I’m currently at the end of my first playthrough and accidentally did all the “true ending” choices, including beating Avlora without using the firetraps, *except* for transporting the salt. Sucks for me because I don’t like any of the options I have for ending, now. I was hoping there was something I was missing (and I guess there was, it was only about a million chapters ago lol). Sigh. I absolutely want to save the Roselle, that’s my goal #1, but Frederica’s plan about it is so dumb. At the same time, I don’t want to ally with Gustadolph, he’s a prick and we should kill him. But Roland’s plan is by far the dumbest one. So idk what I’ll do, now. But anyways I just needed a place to vent. The writing and story have been amazing. I’ve completely loved this game.
For Chapter 13a (utility, destroy the dam) I figured out how to clear the chapter without any combat and in like 1 minute (on NG+) .All you need benedict with a vanguard scarf, julio and Quohog with a movement bracelet. Place all three in top right corner. First turn use In tandem on julio, then double turn with benedict on quohog. Then julio to give quohog 5 TP. Then on quohog's turn use fleet footed and lightwave, warp him all the way to the right. Move and warp with the first guy on the cliff, then move and warp the solo guy on the watchtower out of the designated area with quohog and the match is won
Funny that you hate the mine, cause it was my favourite map lmao. I just loved going back and forth on the wagon and squishing all the enemies that way.
It just drags longer than necessary and there aren't too many enemies on the map in general so it feels like a large empty map. The gimmick was nice, but I think it would've been better if all the bombs were on the map from the start, and defusing all of them was the objective instead of defeat all the enemies.
I just beat that map litterally an hour ago and I actually really enjoyed it
I still prefere octopath but this is my seconde favorite rpg game.
Pls keep up the triangle strategy content
I definitely will, I still have a LOT of video ideas beyond these simple guides!
Long comment incoming, because I have feelings but nobody to share them with!
Roland was definitely my favorite of the three and I so wanted to support my friend, but I could not deny that Benedict's strategy was more sound, because at this point everything in the story pointed towards Hyzante being the root of all evil (Frederica's strategies were often out of the question for me anyway, as they were too idealistic) and I thought that everyone being forcibly becoming a believer could only backfire (and I was also very pro-Roselle, because Jerrom is hot and I had hoped he would join my army). When I found out Idore had vanished, I was sure he would just die a lonely old man, but then I saw that epilogue and I couldn't help but feel like I made the wrong choice. It decidedly did not seem like Norzelia was left any better than before. I had hoped Roland would show up after the final battle and he and Serenoa would reconcile, but I definitely did not expect he would become a follower of the Goddess, much less that he would team up with Idore. I figured the Goddess was more so a means to an end for him, to achieve the vision he had in mind, not a religion he actively believed in. And then he basically said he would be starting a revolution and would fight Serenoa, that just hurt (me, a raging socialist, inadvertedly caused the birth of capitalism in this game, while the one person I figured would be all about freedom turned out to be the communist lmao). It left the entire story with a bad taste in my mouth. I hated the ending because it made me regret my choice, even if at the time I thought it was the right one. I also kind of started disliking Benedict, especially because in the end I still don't know WHY he's so attached to Lady Destra. Serenoa also became much more ruthless, which makes sense when under the influence of Benedict. I suppose it's a good thing I'm feeling this way, though, as it tells me the story made an impact on me, and it wants me to make better choices next time. I'll just sacrifice Frederica. I ended up liking her more than I thought, but I found I hardly ever agreed with her lol
I'm glad there is a fourth path, definitely going for that next, when I play NG+.
I love your points and they made me laugh a bit haha! I'm always glad when people share their thoughts and experiences in the comments because it's fun to hear how we all have different experiences!
I also went down the Benedict route the first time, but I must confess that while most of my decisions were anti-Frederica for most of the playthrough, I did eventually want to join her in that final stretch because I wanted the world to burn itself in the fires of war while I dipped. I couldn't convince ANYONE to side with me on that because my Morality was so low from the entire playthrough that I ended up forced down Benedict's route because I'm a ruthless evil person myself. Ironically, when I DID get to go down Frederica's route, it was my favorite, so on the surface things may not seem to be what you think they are!
I did the golden path second and don't regret it, but there WILL come a point where you'll realize (just like I did), that this path is meant to be played last.
@@LinkKing7 alright, then I’ll save the golden route for last, I imagine it will feel that more satisfying. I also failed to get people to side with Roland (I figured I’d try, even if Benedict had the right of it), and then they all sided with Benedict anyway (even Hughette). I’m gonna force myself to make the “bad” choices this playthrough (sacrifice the Roselle, give up Roland, etc) to see what happens. This is the best game I’ve played in a while!
How do you get to see the routes/paths on your screen? Is there a place within the game where you can view the entire route breakdown?
Also, you didn't mention that you recruit Cordelia if you stay in Glenbrook with Roland for chapter 15. You mentioned the other 3 recruitable units but forgot Cordelia. So for someone watching, they might not realize you get Cordelia at all, only Milo, Travis and Trish on the other 3 split paths.
Avlora doesn’t have her super on the boat because naturally it would blow the very boat up that she’s on .. so I think they took it out cause it was sensible to not have her do a super strong powerful move on a little wooden boat lol
I guess it makes sense if you consider it from that standpoint haha, it's just kind of disappointing
Interesting that the chapter 16 mines fight was such a headache for you. The timers on the bombs were a bit stress-inducing, sure. I played on normal difficulty my first time through and had no real issues with the fight.
My question is: Did you use Anna? Because for me Anna was the MVP of this battle. Perhaps I was also fortunate to have happened to already equipped her with the accessory to boost her movement as well. But I was able to use Anna and the minecarts to very quickly traverse the map. Anna did very little actual fighting for me. And I had her running around defusing bombs. Her ability to act twice made it super easy to defuse a bomb and go stealth on the same turn to avoid her being caught and exposed behind enemy lines. And I don't recall if disarming the bomb broke her stealth or not as I think only hostile actions break her invisibility. I think I only had one bomb get low enough on the timer to turn red the entire fight and even that was not a worry because I new Anna was quick enough to make it to the bomb in time to defuse it.
So yeah, just curious what your methods were for this fight.
It was more so the forced length of the map as opposed to it being difficult. The fight just dragged on and wasn't engaging and the enemies spawning in different corners were annoying, even if I know where they're going to be.
I did all the moral options so far without knowing 😆 that is what I planned to do before the game came out. I totally burned all the houses down tho…
Burning the houses... I'm proud of you
Dang I can't imagine how you've 100% completed all paths in the first 10 days! Did you get an early review code for the game or something?
I wish I did, I would've been done even faster. I just no life'd the game haha!
@@LinkKing7 Haha that's awesome! I played it for 12 hours the first full day I had the game but unfortunately wasn't able to keep that up 😂
So, I'm guessing you decided not to do the ending choices video? I was really enjoying the way you went through the choices, and then it was suddenly the end of the video.
Yeah, I haven't really been able to make content regularly since April due to personal reasons, so all the videos I wanted to do for Triangle Strategy unfortunately never got done. Sorry for the disappointment haha.
I don't want to give you any false hope and say that video will still happen, but I do hope to pick things back up in the next month or so for some other games if you enjoy my style of content!
@@LinkKing7 Thanks for the reply! I understand how life gets in the way of making videos, trust me.
I just did the fight avlora in the castle map i had erador yeet her into the fountain and then via a combo of surrounding her so she cannot leave and using milo and julio to drain her tp prevent her from using bloody cross while geela tried to give everyone enough hp.to.hold the line.
It was funny when i found the amulet of immunity in the fountain i gave avlora a swirly in
Triangles of all ages!
Watching this cuz I’ve done 1 run aiming for frederica’s route, reached the major route split and wasn’t able to convince anybody to support me in going down frederica’s route, and the scales just sent me to Benedict instead
One way or another I’m gonna find out how to get frederica’s route I swear
need help guys - stuck on the vote in chapter 9. doesn't seem to matter what i do, i cant persuade the crew to vote to transport the illegal salts. ive been grinding mock battles and trying to earn conviction points for utility (i.e collecting spoils, killing all enemies, using quietus points, etc.) but still no luck and not sure if it is helping or not. any insight here would be great!!!
My Jens (smith guy) set a trap in Chapter 7 (hadn't used one before, was testing it out) and it flung the enemy into a bird statue that broke and then burnt down the town by accident L O L. Was so funny, gonna let it ride and do the golden route on a other play through,
My only mistake was using one of those damn fire traps. I tried so hard to not use them, but i got cornered bad, it was game over or burn one home. Otherwise, I actually would have ended up getting the serenoa ending. Damn.
I’m really sad that I was right about Dragan being unsaveable
Yeah...
I really wanted to save Dragan he grew on me early on I wanted a route where he could be saved or king regna or lord Wolffort
@@narutoedw1n Sadly, their deaths were to big a part of the plot to be removed….
@@avocado1845 would've made the game more interesting if they went with those deaths preventable
Jeez the true ending really is well hidden. I think I might try to book mark this video to remember it for my playthrough.
Beside it I am most interested in Freds path and least in Beni's.
Anna is the secret sauce for the bombs in chapter 16.
I made the mistake of doing my first play through on hard. 💀💀
@13:14 "it is what it is" ..no, it could be rerecorded and made into actual "good" content, at least if you want people to take your seriously as a creator.
I was sort of hoping there was a route where you ended up with Avlora on your side.
And there is!
you know what i was hoping for the game? that more choices would actualy matter during the game that actualy effect the end, instead of just at the very end having the big choice, you know what i mean?
To me they actually did matter since my convictions weren't high enough to go down the route I wanted, but yes, I get what you mean, and I agree with you!
i ended up doing every possible green option on my first time through lol
On my first run I was able to avoid lighting the village on fire cause hughette took everything out
I got Frederica ending first playthrough. Do you think I should go for the golden route second or do the normal endings first? It is a lot to commit to so many playthroughs. Based on the pictures I think Benedict’s ending seems like the best of the normal endings. Roland is not really fit to be king and Hyzante is the greater evil I think. Too many people don’t make it to the ending in Frederica’s ending.
Do whatever you think will be more fun for you. Personally, Frederica's route was my favorite
@@LinkKing7 well I am excited for the videos analyzing the story you promised.
I was wondering what route I was doing my first time.. I guess I went true ending.
I hate that in the whole game there was never a Chapter where you could choose to go to House Falkes and join forces with them. Like, maybe in the Chapter where Telliore comes to ask you to join him, you could decide to go to Falkes and ask them first, and that would cause Telliore to reluctantly join and not betray you.
25:40 you can get to the boat using Milo's jump, Hughette can fly of course, but I mainly had my mages nuke from afar. Any enemies on the metal edge of the ship would be toasted by Lightning.
My man Landroi was ABANDONED
I’m holding this video
Golden Route Chapter 17: Serenoa Finally Grows A Spine
Chapter 16 is easy, just use Anna to defuse those bombs and other units can take it slow.
Small nitpick, I hate how there never truly feels like there's a war going on. Everyone keeps saying war this war that in character stories, but until the final route split, nobody ever really talks about war breaking out. And even then, it's a series of three battles against one of the nations. There isn't really much of a huge continental war going on. Even when Aesfrost first invades, that happens in like two battles.
Yeah it's not so much war as it is constant political tension of sorts instead I suppose
Hate you didn’t cover last 3 chapters. Lol when’s that deep dive coming out lol?
Well I don't wanna spoil things in terms of story specifics, and there are also like 12 chapters in those splits to cover, if not even more so it would make things a LOT longer. The videos will come, they'll take a bit of time if I want to script things but I've got stuff that I'm working on don't worry!
I finished my first playthrough with my man few days ago and i have to say that it is a really fun game. We ended up with the Benedict route and i got a bit salty cause we accidently always wanted to make the right choice for the hidden ending but we couldnt convince our team to reveal rolands identety which is why we didnt get it. I currently a bit bummed out from the game, i kinda wished that your decisions had more of an impact and that instead of just adding value to your conviction it would always add a value while also reducing the value of another conviction, and that the last route gets choose by what value is the highest instead of another scale. This is also my biggest problem, i didnt play the hidden path yet but i wished that serenoas biggest character moment should have been making 1 F****** decision on his own for once instead of forcing it onto other. Just once at the end he should have been "NO, I WONT GO WITH THE SCALES WE ARE DOING X". but instead his growth feels more like him being a cameleon changing his believes depending on the last choice you make, and that makes him feel really shallow. Frederica is the only true main character of the in my opinion, Benedict is a asshole and Roland is a wimp.
Well, if you DO ever decide to play the game again and do that NG+ run that you don't like to do, that hidden path may just end up being something you enjoy 😉
The choices of the undecideds aren't random. Here's what they'll do if you don't try to convince them.
In chapter 3, Anna will pick Hyzante
In chapter 7, Anna will surrender Roland
In chapter 8 (defend), Benedict will reject Telliore's proposal.
In chapter 8 (surrender) Benedict will side with Hyzante while Geela will side with Aesfrost, leading to a tie, Seranoa gets the final say here.
In chapter 9, Anna will pick report illegal salt,
In chapter 10 (smuggle), Anna will hide Roland's identity.
In chapter 11, Hughette will defend the Roselle
In chapter 13, Erador will blow up the dam
In chapter 15, both Anna and Erador will pick to go back to castle Wolfort.
In chapter 17, Hughette will side with Roland while Anna, Erador, and Geela will side with Benedict. No one sides with Frederica.
On a side note, the absolute minimum convictions you need to get the golden ending is 444 utility to convince Anna in chapter 9 and 448 freedom to convince Anna in chapter 10. Both the other requirements get chosen by default.
Oh man I thought I was making the moral choice in chapter 3 by going to Hyzante because I thought it would be mean to make Frederica ride on the boat with her mean ass cousins
So each play through we can see this expanded map split?
Yup, the more you play on NG+, the more the map continues to fill! This is mine after 4 full playthroughs
@@LinkKing7
Okay, cool! Thank you for the info!
I think I'm getting close to finishing the game and I'm not ready for it to end. 😭
Can you get the “golden” route in your first play through?
Yes you can, as long as you follow the conditions it'll give you the option! Though... I don't recommend it at all.
Currently on golden route in my 1st playthrough.
I am kind of split on that the game has a golden route
Yeah I'm personally not a fan of Golden Routes, because POWER OF FRIENDSHIP
You would have Lionel?
Finally on final chapter. I chose Frederica's route. I like her, and felt the choice to save the Roselle was right. Aesfrost and Hyzante both suck. Roland's proposal was insanely stupid to where I lost a ton of respect for his character, though I do still appreciate his loyalty and the fact he reflects on it after. Roland fits more as a knight than as a ruler imho.
Benedict's was the most realistic, however we have gone through the scenario time and time again already with the choice of sacrifice in exchange for aid vs holding out ourselves and managed to make it work (i chose to protect roland btw). Also, I have spent the entire game busting my butt to save the Roselle and I was not about to simply throw all the progress away lol. We have proven to Benedict over and over that we can beat the odds.
I was gunning for a perfect ending, though not sure how the route split was at the time so i just tried to do the most right i could. Sadly, I had to burn Three Houses down to beat Avlora. I was kinda hoping just mitigated damage was enough to save the gold route. But, more incentive to play the game more, so it works out.
The mines wasnt as bad as i expected it to be. Anna, Hughette, Serenoa, and Archibald wrecked that map for me 1st. Though again im on normal difficulty atm so maybe on my next run i'll hate it.
I do on the other hand hate the final map i am on. Ah yes a freaking escort mission on the final map with green (pink?) units, reinforcements and archers with the highest vantage point. I hate Idore, and he wasnt making it easier with the massive army wide buffs he gets to give everyone. Also, i really hate enemy mages in this game.
If you're playing on NG+, you can just use Quahaug's Distorted Space to swap positions with Idore on turn 1 and kill him instantly. That's what I did and the map took a whole 3 minutes to do and was incredibly funny.
I actually liked the Frederica ending the most out of all of them (when you finish it you'll know why, it's fairly obvious haha)
But yeah the golden route is fairly well hidden, and considering my lack of morality in my decisions, I pretty much picked the opposite choice for it on every split!
I'll say this now but won't watch entire vid just yet, haven't done gold ending but I'm new game plusing it to get it. I did the Federica ending on my first play through. Personally I think the Roland end may be the worst in the sense of loss and changes also f hyzante lol. But each specific conviction ending resulted in a massive sacrifice of some sort. But I think of the three Benedicts I like the best, but idk I'm sure my mind may change especially if I decide to play for all endings
Yeah Benedict's ending was pretty cool, though I personally really enjoyed Frederica's!
@@LinkKing7 yeah I think of the three that one may be the best I just watched those endings on TH-cam but have not seen anything on the Golden and I'll keep it at that for when I finally get through it
Decent video, but like, prepare?
playing for 3hours and 30 min and only 2 battles omg
Yup, there is a LOT of story in this game, but it does get more balanced later on down the line!
Everyone is CORRUPTED in this game... I was shocked on the part when BENEDICT couldnt agree on you for saving the roselle... and wanted you claim the salt for power... this game isnt afraid to be politically correct...
I like it, it's far more realistic in it's approach to what a real conflict like this would look like!
Lol my guy i was prepared how bad chapter 16 was and it was easy! My team is decked in promotions and movement and weapons and went it at level 28. I easily beat. In fact chapter 16 was the easiest map I did. Lol cmon.
I went ahead and experienced the 3 main routes first, before going on the path to the true ending. It was a lot of fun. Might do one last playthrough, but on hard and aiming to get everyone's final upgrades
Yeah, I did the true ending second and it kind of made me wish I'd done the others first, especially because of a certain mechanic...