I used to work as an engineer for DEWALT. I HATED our super fans for one and only one reason: even if we built a subpar tool, they loved it and would buy it. This means that management wouldn't let us improve the product. Squeeky wheels get the grease, and super fans shout over the squeeking of the wheel. Essentially, when people are blindly loyal, marketing wins out over engineering. Super fans KILL the brands they love. The fans who make lengthy TH-cam videos detailing why my tools sucks makes me happy. This means management will give me the budget to fix the issue. My favorite customers are always on the verge of jumping to Milwaukee. Management should always be nervous about quality. The customers are a crucial part of a healthy product.
And that's why I love watching channels The Torque Test Channel, it lets us consumers see those tools squeaky wheels without the annoying fan bois noise.
I only own one DeWalt tool - a cordless 12V impact driver. It is not the the "top end" that DeWalt offered, but it's been a highly reliable and effective tool for over 10 years and I use it still today. I would never tell anyone not to get DeWalt. I personally avoided DeWalt for political reasons (They support Trump) when I needed a new drill and went with Makita (Japanese made in China alas - it was also on sale that day!). As I look at getting something else I could go with any of them - the whole "battery" base thing is more important for a tradesman, but is not as important for a DIYer. As such - get the same if possible but don't obsess over it. TH-cam influencers have a lot of effect on the weak minded, alas.
I was a huge DeWalt fan, untill my cordless framing nailer broke down. It lasted just the warranty time, and cost to get it fixed was same than buying a new one. Never abused it an serviced it as instructed. It just decided not to sink nails anymore. Then i bought Milwaukee framing nailer. Warranty went out long ago and still rocking. Every other tool i have is Makita. Will never buy another DeWalt.
My "loyalty" is to quality, not to some brand name that is bought and sold like any other commodity. When the quality is no longer there, neither is my loyalty. It really is as simple as that.
Came here to say this. The purpose of a tool is to get the job done. Now we as humans like heuristics and shortcuts that reduce the amount of decisions and research we need to do. Brands take advantage of that. But yeah look at the ownership history of most tool brands and its a multinational corporation that is mining the brand for all the good will it has built up previously.
I 100% agree, but with the additional caveat of buying into a battery system for cordless tools. One can't deny that carries SOME weight in the decision-making process.
It's worth knowing that most brands have a very wide array of versions of everything. You might think that buying Makita or Dewalt or whatever gets a certain quality, but they make 20 different cordless drills that all look similar, with varying levels of quality for different retailers. They rely on the reputation generated by their high-end tools to help sell the cheap ones that aren't nearly as good.
I’m 22 years old and I work as a concrete laborer for a heavy highway construction company. I absolutely love your videos. A instructor in trade school used a couple of your videos for lecture. And I can’t stop watching them. The knowledge and wisdom that you provide is not just useful it’s helpful. It makes me love my work when I think back on it. I hope that as years pass I can become successful in the industry and be able to become as knowledgeable as you are to me for someone else.
I mean, with cordless tools it’s more about how much money have you put in the ecosystem. I started with a dewalt impact and then I thought: “man I need a jobsite fan, why not a dewalt fan since I have already have dewalt batteries” and then I jumped into that rabbit hole without realizing and havent come out of it since. But loyalty…….. not really.
Backing this up. I own a collection of Ridgid tools because I have a collection of Ridgid batteries from tools I bought 20 years ago, not because I have any loyalty to them. I should just invest in a set of battery adapters so I can just pick up the tools and batteries I want regardless of brand.
I’m a handyman and converted from Bosch (brushed) to Dewalt a few years ago when Brushless was taking off. My secondary brand is Rigid. It’s pretty good quality and priced right for those tools you don’t need everyday. The only corded tool I take on jobs is a heavy duty drill for mixing mud or thin set. As for worm drive Skilsaws, I thought I needed one, and found one at an estate sale for $35. I carried it around for a few minutes while I shopped…then lugged it back to where I found it and set it down.
My dad was a journeymen carpenter and worked in the trades his entire life. His cordless tools were always Makita. They last. I ended up going the same direction probably due to his influence, but also because Makita is the last independent company that makes and sells power tools under its own brand. The rest are conglomerates with multiple brands, and companies. Corporate consolidation has created an oligopoly with most brands being made by just a few companies.
Same. When my grinder developed a rattle after years of use, the Makita service center replaced the broken bushing and power cord at no charge. I have to have a very good reason to buy a non-Makita power tool.
My first battery drill was a 9.6V Metabo from the eighties. Lasted a good 20 years. Replaced it with a set (drill and driver) of Makita tools. Lasted about five minutes. Absolute crap. The red batteries were the problem. Replaced with a set of lithium battery tools. The drill won't engage in second gear. My old Makita sabre saw, however, lasted about 30 years.
I’m mostly Milwaukee but also own Bosch, dewalt, makita, a corded skill aluminum worm drive etc. they’re all fine. I started 30 years ago with lower quality tools then upgraded. Through the years I would have a new young laborer working for me and they would ask to borrow a tool to use at home over the weekend. If they’re a good hand I would find one of those older tools that still works just fine and give it to them to keep. An old black and decker corded saw or recip saw was a fine tool and will get a young person started, plus they’ll get to feel the real power of a good corded tool.😉
Dewalt is my go to, mainly due to not needing different batteries/chargers for the different tools. Started with Dewalt many years ago and so far have had no problems with anything I have bought . Thanks for your insight!
100% agree about the skilsaw. I started working as a carpenter around 1978 and was a journeyman for many years. First skilsaw was all metal (no mag back then) but have stuck with them all the way. Still have a porter cable router made in Jackson, Tennessee. If you look at most tools sold anywhere in America practically all are made in china. Most are affordable and disposable. Not any good ole goid ones anymore. Still have my first set of leather nail bags almost 50 years old!
The more pertinent question may be, how much loyalty does the tool brand I use or favor, have towards me the customer. "Right to Repair", after sales Service & Repair, Warranty, Battery Platform stability and accessibility, Accessories and Parts availability and price. Brand Loyalty appears to exist in only one direction these days.
I was a cut man for a framing crew for over 10 years, the red mag 77 was the only saw I ever used. Still got the first one I ever bought and used all them years. Never have checked grease in it. Have only put new cords on it.
- Quality is the main concern. You buy cheap, you get cheap. - Most tools bought today are not near as good as they were 20 years ago. - I have 3 PorterCable tools that I purchased 27 years ago [ 1/2 inch drill, SawsAll, & belt Sander ] all are still working great. - My Milwaukee corded saw still works just like it did new. Great saw. Milwaukee has a great dependable product line. A wise investment. - The Big Thing To Remember Is = Take Care Of Your Tools And The Tools Will Take Care Of You. - Thank You for another great well-delivered video.
I always wipe or blow off the saw dust from my tools and put them away , my Dad and brothers taught me that when I was growing up watching them work and then they would have me clean the tools before putting them away
I don't know about all that, but running air into the motor intake and exhaust will absolutely extend the life of the motor otherwise covered in sawdust.
@@josephdestaubin7426 I still have my skill saw 15 years, craftsman 10 in miter saw 1998 and Craftsman 1996 10 in Radial arm saw still running and my other and power hand tools and air tools. even after I am done for the day and tired I clean my tools then take my shower. as we would say in the military " you take care of your equipment the equipment will take care of you"
Your Dad and brothers taught you a great lesson. When you’re done using your tools, clean them off and put them away and the next time you need one you’ll know where it’s at and that it’s ready to go.
Totally Agree on Skill Worm Drive and Makita battery-powered tools.😊 I use Ryobi around the house. Thanks for your comments. I learn so much from your channel.
I worked at a lumber yard in 1992 as a young 20s year old. It taught me a couple things about tools. Porter Cable at the time was the best tool available at the time with Bosch right with it. Bosch is still a top brand and Dewalt exploded from the B&D Professional line. I totally agree about brand loyalty, best tool you can afford and treat it good, you have a jobber friend for life. I purchased a 6” left blade Porter cable corded circ saw in 1994 and I still use it at home over a battery version. It just works. Thanks for the video!
To be blunt ... it's the same loyalty issue with things like TH-cam channels. And there's a really good reason why i keep looking at new videos on this one.
In 2005, I bought a 1999 Silverado 2500 HD 4x4 with 83,000 miles on it and today, it sits in my driveway with 330,000 miles on it. Has never let me down but I felt it performed all the work I could reasonably expect it to do. So last year, I bought a brand new 2023 Silverado 2500 HD 4x4 based exclusively on the performance of my old one. At 50 years old, I do not expect I’ll buy another truck in my lifetime barring a major collision. I’ve owned 3 pickups over my lifetime and 1 SUV, a 1996 GMC Jimmy. The first truck was a 1987 Chevy 1/2 ton. General Motors has never let me down. Others may disagree but when I need to go anywhere, I do not think twice about my vehicles. Well, all except for that 2008 Jeep Wrangler my wife insisted on owning! She loves it though so I do not complain about any of the work I need to do on it. In fact, I should thank the Jeep. It justified my purchase of a 2 post lift a few years ago!
back in 1986 I bought the Gold painted Skil 50th Anniversary Mag 77 with the blue metal carrying case ! many have asked WHY I painted it GOLD ? I told them it was sold this way .. and Yes it still works like brand new .
I just found your channel new to the trades as an hvac apprentice. Everything I’ve watched so far has been spot on and the way you articulate your opinions and the information you give is outstanding sir definitely gained a new subscriber.
Great Video - I have a 37 year old Bosch jigsaw used 99% for contour cutting 1/4" steel plate - still going strong. I bought another well respected brand - just in case - and even brand new doesn't work anywhere near as well as the old Bosch - So I found a not too used Bosch and bought it.
Very wise words. Personally, I have a lot of Makita tools because, like you, I'm invested in the battery platform and they hit the right price to performance balance for me. The most disappointing tools have probably been the Festools I've bought. They feel good in the hand but their performance is about the same as all the other leading brands now but they cost twice as much.
Ive been watching your channel for a few years now and I've bought tools based on your opinions and experiences with them. Occidental leather bags, buckaroo belt, Stiletto hammer, rigging axe, skilsaw mag 77 and paslode Pneumatic Framing Nailers will never change. I love them. I use them every day to feed my family. All I can say is thank you Scott and everyone on the essential craftsman channel! Keep up the good work!
I'm not a professional construction guy. I have been using the Bauer cordless tool 20V line of tools for my little projects for about three years now, and I can't complain. They do what I need to do and haven't given me any trouble.
I have 5 worm drives and would never use anything different…for one reason is the safety! I got 61/2, 71/2, 10”, 16” and the newer table saw…great investments
I have an old (probably 70s or 80s) Sears Jigsaw that will probably pass on to my kids when my time comes. So many electric tools, gadgets, entertainment and computer equipment are built for planned obsolescence. At least we still have eBay and local Marketplace sites to buy the old stuff that lasts.
Any boy who grew up with a home full of tools is a blessed boy. My Dad had all sorts of tools, and I am following in his footsteps. Not a tradesman, but a software guy. But still skilled enough to have finished my own basement, and built my own shed.
As a DIY guy and weekend woodworker, I have also purchased a variety of things-- mostly based on what I could afford. My Ryobi cordless tools have never failed me, and I love my CORDED Skil circular saw and router!
They make a blade right worm drive? Or you mean sidewinder skills brand? Ski saw is still the only one to have plug in left blade sidewinder (called southpaw) which is awesome
Early on in my career I used to use the high powered M18 fuel Milwaukee tools for every single job just because I always wanted the best. I have since realized that those overpowered heavy tools are not necessary for 90% of the work I do. I've since switched to the little light and compact M12 tools and my wrist have thanked me
I'm a DIY weekend warrior. In my opinion, for cordless tools, the darn battery platforms hold more people "captive" than "loyal." I stubbornly held onto my old 18V XRP Dewalts for 10+ years because I didn't want to buy new tools + batteries + chargers. However, that all changed last year when I finally bit the bullet and bought a full set of Milwaukee Fuel. The power and speed that these new tools put out versus my old Dewalts is amazing. It's also incredible that I can now work for all or most of a day on a single battery per tool, which is something I haven't done since my old Dewalts were new.
I’ve seen your earlier episode on the topic. About 2 weeks ago my 32 year old Porter Cable saw finally bit the dust. I paid a pretty penny for it in 1992 and it served me well for those long years on a couple dozen robust DIY projects, including a barn and a well house. I have a battery powered DeWalt that I use occasionally, but I like a corded saw. I took your advice and bought a Skilsaw. I have used it on one project so far and really love it. If I can get 32 years out of it, I will see 100 years old and will be completely satisfied. I mostly use DeWalt battery tools: saws, drills, impact drivers, impact wrenches, etc. In the 90s I wore out a Makita battery operated drill and I do have a corded Makita hammer drill. I’ve also got some battery operated tools from Ryobi, Milwaukee, and Hitachi. It’s all in what works for you in your situation. Thanks for your good work and all you do.
Look at a Skil tool today, consumer grade only. Back in the 70's I purchased a Skil 449 worm drive belt sander. In my opinion, it's the best belt sander ever made! A true workhorse.
I worked at Porter Cable in the late 90’s. I worked in the Engineering department and luckily bought several tools. Everything was so well built. We had belt sander and routers there that were decades old. It’s so sad to see what Porter Cable has turned into, but I still treasure my corded tools from then. Now I use Dewalt, Makita, and Milwaukee cordless platforms. I love them all.
Been at for a bit, framed for a couple of decades, a large portion of that with gentleman named Tom Bricky that you remind me of, he was fast, efficient and we were always trying new techniques, one of my favorites was taking a Skil 6-1/2” worm drive removing the blade guard and using 7-1/4” blade, we would also remove cord at boot and install a twist lock, the saw was very well balanced and a bit lighter, I always wished they made that saw in a 5-1/2” just for 90 degree cuts in 2x stock, later switched to the mag 77, and then mag 77LT, now my go to is the makita 36v, I only use corded if there is extensive ripping to save battery life, I couldn’t imagine using corded tools for much of anything anymore (except table saw). For context this is my 44th year as a carpenter, thank you the videos, they make me think of younger times.
My dad was an independent contractor/builder when I was a kid, back in the 80s, I was a helper on the job site. I remember he acquired a deck&blacker (that's what we called it, blacker than the Pit of Despair!) wormdrive saw, it was broke more than it worked! The motor ate brushes for breakfast, it growled at you like a bear when you pulled the trigger, the cord came out of the back and was hanging by the wires, the motor threw enough blue Sparks that you thought it was going to start a fire! That was the worst tool on the job!! We finally gave its dead carcass a spot in a box in the shop because we never wanted to throw anything away, but we finally quit using the miserable thing, after it would dump you in the middle of the day on a job. The mighty wormdrive Skillsaw was our stand by that never ever failed us even once! I think he still has it to this day
I love dewalt. When I was a Carpenter's helper I used his makita tools. I liked makita but when I learned about different brands and the fact that dewalt just brought out the flexvolt system I immediately went for those. My christmas gift when i first started my apprenticeship was 2 dewalt tool bags, an 18v Dewalt SDS and a 54v 9ah battery. Ever since then I buy dewalt. I know that the cordless nail guns arent as good as milwaukee or hikoki but apart from that they always do the job for me. Whatever suits you go for. Whether that be by using the one brand or using a mix and match as long as the work is quality
I think its good to mention that battery adapters are readily available if you wanna try a particular tool. I forget the brand, but theres also a universal battery, that comes with different adapters that you can use for every tool.
I have all the tools more or less in a battery and corded version. Outside of the drill and impact driver, I would say my favorite tool in a battery version is the sawzall. So handy for pipe fitting in the yard or cutting a small branch etc. granted I rarely use my corded tools anyway, but you would have to put up the biggest fight to take away my cordless sawzall.
I still have the Skill 77 I bought in the seventies and it still works, I bought the Mag one when it came out because it was a bit lighter, the old Porter Cable stuff is fantastic. But like a bunch of brands they have sold out and care more about profits than making a quality tool for the professional.
Not so much brand, as battery platform. Several years ago I was helping roof a house (basically just supplying labor). The guy running the job had a variety of cordless tool brands. The battery for his circular saw ran out with us having only 5' of sheathing to cut to finish the job. He didn't have any other batteries in that platform, so we had to kill a bunch of time waiting for his saw to get enough of a charge to finish up. I kept that in mind as I was adding to my cordless tools, and kept with the same platform for everything I take out on a job, if possible.
Carpenter here. When i started working i had cordless makitas (5year old ones) at the company and we used them alot and of course some people mistreated them alot cuz "eh company tool" but that got me thinking "what if i get my own full kit and only i maintain and use them?". In the end still have them after 8 years and served me well even to this day ❤ (all i had to do untill this day is replace 3x batteries wich is like 150€ in 8 years and charcoal and trigger for the drill 40€ + a shit ton of blades for the skillsaw but that i asked from the company always so never had to buy them myself)
I’m out of the trades now, however you’re spot on! Older Porter cable were fantastic and I still cherish them. Cordless, I’m still running 18v Makita impact drivers and drill’s that are from 2004, batteries are now a bit weak but I’m still using them and are performing flawlessly. Mag77 or the older heavier version “the perfect saws” and built like an American tool should be! Not a fan of Bosch however! Here in Montana it seems as though the cold is hard on their plastics. Ohh and go “BLUE”
25 years self employed bought every brand run 20v DeWalt since they came out.never use a cord or generation again. I work sometimes 60 feet up.love all tools and brands!
I bought a worm drive Skill Saw in 1972, $149.95 plus tax, thought I'd choke! I used that saw my entire career (never has needed any repairs), still have it and grab it when I want to cut something quickly.
You paid for American-made quality in those days and you got American-made quality. My original Porter-Cable tools from the 1960s and 70s are even more expensive.
We’ve got very similar tastes Scott, I make my living with a couple old f350’s, Makita tools and a kubota skid steer. It’s all personal preference and what your comfortable with. Keep up the good work!
Great video I'm a die hard Milwaukee guy but I use to use Makita and loved the tools but the battery cycle count was the reason I switched and because of a few key cordless tools the Milwaukee offered that Makita did not. That said I have used almost all of the major brands professionally and here is my ranking. Best to worse considering quality, tool options, Milwaukee DeWalt Makita Hilti Metabo Ridgid Bosch Porter cable Craftsman Ryobi/Hart Honorable mention Harbor freights more expensive line I've heard good things about but have no experience with. Probably between Ridgid and Bosch but 🤷
I buy based on which tool has the features that make the quality of life on the job a bit easier. Started w/ Dewalt, my all time favorite impact driver from them, then recently switched over to Milwaukee's cordless b/c of the oscillating tool, grinder, and stubby impact/mid torque. Very thankful for the tools I have as they have kept my family mobile through fixing the car, built our kitchen and renovated our bathrooms DIY, saving thousands upon thousands of dollars.
I have a Makita 18v kit that I got when they first came out. Still has two of the original batteries. I have Milwaukee and DeWalt as well I think you buy the tool that suits the job. Batteries and chargers aren't hard to come by if you keep your eyes open. My sons are young adults now just getting into the trade I think their kids will be amazed to hear that they remember Grandpa using tools that you had to plug in to a cord running to an outlet in the wall. Between hand tools and cordless tools there are often days we never plug anything in. The new batteries last long enough the chargers stay in the trailer and only run over night.
I still have a sweet, fully-functioning 7 1/4” Black and Decker Super Sawcat with the large shoe and electric brake. Bought it in 1977 at Northwest Hardware in Roanoke on a 90 day credit plan. I replaced the cord long ago with a heavy duty 12’ cable. With the right blade, I can rip 2x stock all day long. No wobble, no hesitation.
In the 1990s I worked with a carpenter who used a Sawcat. Someone else on the crew bought a new DeWalt saw. It was identical to the sawcat except for the color.
A couple of years ago I bought a Sawcat which was sitting unused, in its original box in a corner of the original owner's basement since 1981. Now it proudly sits unused in the corner of my basement! 😁
That porter cable router you pulled out is all we have in my shop. They’re incredibly well built and very reliable. If they need fixed we have a guy in Indianapolis that always comes through for us.
I suggested this on your last anniversary video and I think now more than ever, it would help you diversify a bit and gain a larger audience. You should consider doing videos on iconic people in these businesses. The classic ones being Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, among others but also lesser known people. Sam Altman, Kent Taylor, and so many more people that deserve to be celebrated for their contributions to businesses that span the globe! Congrats on another great year and I hope this suggestion helps :)
I can't remember ever using anything other than a skill worm drive. At one time I think I had at least four of them on the job site. The only time I got rid of any of them was when I retired and then still kept one. Oh, another time was when I gave the saw to my son. Then, of course, I had to buy a new 77 for myself.
Years ago I had a corded Metabo hammer drill that was an absolute beast. Sadly, it was stolen. Fast forward to 2023 when I bought a cordless Metabo drill and impact driver. They are decent tools but the quality is nothing like the Metabo of 20 years ago, and I feel the same way about Porter Cable. My father used to tell me how good they were, and I believed him ,not only because he told me but because I remember them covered with battle scars and still getting the job done. It's unfortunate that many manufactures have sacrificed quality for profit.
Thanks for your informative reviews. They are right on the money. I took your advice and put a 50’ cord on my skilsaw, thank you, no more knot tying. Now I would like to trade a tip to you. The aftermarket rafter hook for the skilsaw wormdrives are still available online and they fit perfectly on the hitachi/Metabo nr83a, nr83a2, and nr83a5 framing nailers with the steel nail feeder. After promising that the Mikita 40v saw would always have a place in your tool box, you gave it to Nate. Hope the tip helps.
I watch your videos for your ability to relate traditional knowledge to modern topics, and above all your articulation. If or when you write a book, I will buy it. You’d be the Eric Sloane of a generation on.
my personal experience in the last 13 years working in construction. #1 makita. Reliable and durable. Limited catalog and expensive #2 Bosch heavy-duty tools are tough. Limited catalog only for professionals. #3 milwaukee wide variety of tools. They have everything you need. Excellent batteries and bad chargers. Power tools are short-lived. most tools will last a short time. #4 dewalt quality and price. batteries and chargers always break down
A brand has you until they lose you. DeWalt had me until they switched to 20v. Milwaukee still has me but some issues caused me to start with Makita's XGT line.
The best tool is the one in you hand. They all can do the job. It comes down to what you're willing to pay and if the platform can give you most of what you need. Comfort is a big factor too. I watch all these videos on which drive can do it faster. Ok but in reality that is small potato's. Price is what you pay and value is what you get. All brands have lemon's and true with most products you buy these days. What's important is how the brand supports the product and the consumers. I personally have been working with Skil tools, and their performance has been strong, but I am sure thats the case with most brands.
One of the pieces of advice i would give to anyone looking at buying into a battery platform is: look at what tools are available on that battery platform. For what I do I wouldn't buy into a platform without a decent midsize portaband, and some brands cater more towards specific trades. Milwaukee offers a battery powered knockout set for electrical, for example.
I've got the 36v Makita rear handle saw for about 5 years now, my coworker has the Hitachi rear handle saw, it is definitely lighter, but not as much torque as the Makita, I guess because its less volts? It's noticeable when ripping something heavy. The Hitachi also takes a half second to spin after the trigger pull which I find amusing
I work in the garage door business and a carpenter i wouldn't say I'm brand loyal but I also don't have alot of different brands in my tool box. I have mainly dewalt and rigid tools as I didn't want a pile of different battery charges around. I also have a Eastwing framing hammer and run with what I can afford, feels comfortable and gets the job done efficiently.
We used Makita at the HVAC company I worked for. They were awesome. Now I’m retired and Ryobi is just fine for the average homeowner at a very economical price point.
Homeowner-level here. For many years I bought almost all my tools second hand. Got a lot of good ones. Started buying new with drill/driver and progressed from Ryobi to Ridgid and now Bosch. Love my Bosch tools! I have some Dewalt corded that I love too. Still always look for second hand tools at estate sales. Latest was a Wen bandsaw. Does the job! No brand loyalty from me just looking for the best I can get at a good price.
I love the Ryobi brand becuase of the wide range of tools that use the same 18v batteries. I moved away from Dewalt to go to Ryobi - partly because of my good friends was a Ryobi rep, but mostly because of the variety of tools.
I had that PC 690 router until last year when I replaced it with a Bosch. It worked like a champ but it was time to update. My dad has one of those Skilsaws like yours - a great saw. I'm in Makita's tool line for cordless, but I have other brands based on quality, price, weight, etc. Go with what works for you.
I have an old US made Porter Cable 3 inch belt sander that I bought at a yard sale 10 years ago for $5. The cord was dry rot, so I replaced it, and it still works great. Sometimes when I push it too hard it will start smoking, but it hasn't given up on me yet.
Porter Cable was bought by DeWalt, and their quality was immediately reduced to a homeowner/DIY quality tool so they wouldn't have two brands competing against each other. That's the way it goes, people might be individually good but corporations are greedy and scummy at every opportunity they have.
@@DegonTheMighty The Irony is they do B&D also. I used to be loyal to PC because of great experiences, and even some innovations, starting in the 80s, but they don't do anything for me at this point.
I was working a job that had a 1000s of windows. The glazer contracted is a company that's been around a couple of decades or more. The foreman of the crew was utilizing Ryobi cordless. Those tools looked like they had seen a fair amount of work. Finally, my inquisitiveness got the best of me. So I approached him and asked why Ryobi? "They do the job day in day out. Most importantly, no one steals Ryobi". He then went on to explain in short. Makita,DeWalt, and Milwaukee get legs. The Ryobi apparently doesn't have that flaw. Needed some cordless tools around the house. Spent less money on Ryobi. That was three years ago. They are doing just fine.
As a weekend warrior, I usually buy cheap and expect the tool to break. Then I know I've use it frequently enough to justify the cost of good ones. I also use good consumables on cheap gears. Expensive saw blades, expensive drill bits. They worked out really well. It's not the saw that cuts, it's the blade that cuts. And don't cheap out on safety gears. Nothing worth more than health. If you are sick/injured, it's way too expensive to get back to health, if possible at all.
I’ve been in the sign business for about 11 years, my old mentor used dewalt so I did also and have used dewalt since. They have never let me down always got the job done I don’t have a reason to switch. Some tools like tape measures I’ve tried a bunch and eventually found one I like the blue irwins sold at Lowe’s. But bottom line use the tool that does the work 👍
My family has been a Ford family since Ford made the Model T. In fact, my dad rebuild a Model T (many years ago), and I remember it boggling my mind at how truly old it was, and it still ran. I recently bought a Chevy. Sacrilege in my family, but they didn't want to help me afford a better truck. That 1999 2500 with 300k miles, hauled my family of 4 and a 21' camper trailer across the Rockies and back (roughly 2k miles). Yes, it the heat got high and I had to pull over, but it didn't have a trans cooler. It sits in my driveway for months at a time, but when I hit that ignition, it doesn't stutter. It just runs I will always be a Ford fanboy, but I will never let the Silverado go...
I have a blend of tools with makitas being the most predominant, and I still prefer corded to cordless. I got a cheap 18v cordless ryobi impact driver over a decade ago and it became my favorite. Dropped it thousands of times, used as a hammer and just abused it every way possible. I let the smoke out of it finally a few days ago so im thinking ill try Milwaukee next. I was gifted a couple 12v makita drills a few years ago and they were pure junk. I dont think they would even suffice for casual home use. Voltage and amperage on the battery platform makes a world of difference.
as long as it gets the job done, isnt overpriced, and doesnt just break after a few times using it then it really doesnt matter what name is stamped or printed on the tool
I’ve worn a few hats by now. As a carpenter, I loved makita and their lineup. Their construction tools just last so long! However as a mechanic you can’t beat Milwaukee, especially with their m12 lineup.
Old Porter Cable tools are bomb proof. You can rely on them. When all these companies started merging the quality of previous quality tools went South.
Interesting to watch aVe BOLTR videos on some of these brands of tools. From injection molding quality to the internal components such as bearings, switches, etc . He really gets in there and figures out just how cheap (or expensive) these tool brands are.
As a home owner that started with Craftsmen corded tools and still have them today. I don't see much need to be loyal to a particular brand today. Many of the consumer grade tools are made by a few OEMs regardless of brand. I buy better tools, but not usually the best. I use DeWalt cordless today. Certainly consideration has to be paid to the battery platform and variety of tools available on that platform. I can't speak to pro grade tools. There may be many good reasons for brand loyalty.
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I used to work as an engineer for DEWALT. I HATED our super fans for one and only one reason: even if we built a subpar tool, they loved it and would buy it. This means that management wouldn't let us improve the product. Squeeky wheels get the grease, and super fans shout over the squeeking of the wheel. Essentially, when people are blindly loyal, marketing wins out over engineering. Super fans KILL the brands they love. The fans who make lengthy TH-cam videos detailing why my tools sucks makes me happy. This means management will give me the budget to fix the issue. My favorite customers are always on the verge of jumping to Milwaukee. Management should always be nervous about quality. The customers are a crucial part of a healthy product.
And that's why I love watching channels The Torque Test Channel, it lets us consumers see those tools squeaky wheels without the annoying fan bois noise.
@@TheUncleRuckus Also AvE, when he tears down brand new tools and talks mad smack about their build quality if he finds them wanting.
@@chaseweeks2708 and he's funny as hell.
I only own one DeWalt tool - a cordless 12V impact driver. It is not the the "top end" that DeWalt offered, but it's been a highly reliable and effective tool for over 10 years and I use it still today. I would never tell anyone not to get DeWalt.
I personally avoided DeWalt for political reasons (They support Trump) when I needed a new drill and went with Makita (Japanese made in China alas - it was also on sale that day!).
As I look at getting something else I could go with any of them - the whole "battery" base thing is more important for a tradesman, but is not as important for a DIYer. As such - get the same if possible but don't obsess over it.
TH-cam influencers have a lot of effect on the weak minded, alas.
I was a huge DeWalt fan, untill my cordless framing nailer broke down. It lasted just the warranty time, and cost to get it fixed was same than buying a new one. Never abused it an serviced it as instructed. It just decided not to sink nails anymore. Then i bought Milwaukee framing nailer. Warranty went out long ago and still rocking. Every other tool i have is Makita. Will never buy another DeWalt.
My "loyalty" is to quality, not to some brand name that is bought and sold like any other commodity.
When the quality is no longer there, neither is my loyalty. It really is as simple as that.
Came here to say this. The purpose of a tool is to get the job done. Now we as humans like heuristics and shortcuts that reduce the amount of decisions and research we need to do. Brands take advantage of that. But yeah look at the ownership history of most tool brands and its a multinational corporation that is mining the brand for all the good will it has built up previously.
I 100% agree, but with the additional caveat of buying into a battery system for cordless tools. One can't deny that carries SOME weight in the decision-making process.
Why be loyal to them when they are not loyal to us?
We need to hear the 44 magnum story
That's the same comment I was going to make. I love listening to a good story teller telling a good story.
oh yeah.
The other person was Inspector Harold Francis Callahan
yeah what the hell? how do you just gloss over that!
Definitely gotta hear that story! Pray maintain speed and course!
It's worth knowing that most brands have a very wide array of versions of everything. You might think that buying Makita or Dewalt or whatever gets a certain quality, but they make 20 different cordless drills that all look similar, with varying levels of quality for different retailers.
They rely on the reputation generated by their high-end tools to help sell the cheap ones that aren't nearly as good.
Yeah, I learned that a few years ago. I kind of hate it too. Now you have to do research to know the quality even with in the same brand!
I’m 22 years old and I work as a concrete laborer for a heavy highway construction company. I absolutely love your videos. A instructor in trade school used a couple of your videos for lecture. And I can’t stop watching them. The knowledge and wisdom that you provide is not just useful it’s helpful. It makes me love my work when I think back on it. I hope that as years pass I can become successful in the industry and be able to become as knowledgeable as you are to me for someone else.
I mean, with cordless tools it’s more about how much money have you put in the ecosystem. I started with a dewalt impact and then I thought: “man I need a jobsite fan, why not a dewalt fan since I have already have dewalt batteries” and then I jumped into that rabbit hole without realizing and havent come out of it since. But loyalty…….. not really.
Backing this up. I own a collection of Ridgid tools because I have a collection of Ridgid batteries from tools I bought 20 years ago, not because I have any loyalty to them. I should just invest in a set of battery adapters so I can just pick up the tools and batteries I want regardless of brand.
Yeah, battery compatibility is one BIG reason to stick with a brand.
Good episode
Same.
I’m a handyman and converted from Bosch (brushed) to Dewalt a few years ago when Brushless was taking off. My secondary brand is Rigid. It’s pretty good quality and priced right for those tools you don’t need everyday. The only corded tool I take on jobs is a heavy duty drill for mixing mud or thin set. As for worm drive Skilsaws, I thought I needed one, and found one at an estate sale for $35. I carried it around for a few minutes while I shopped…then lugged it back to where I found it and set it down.
My dad was a journeymen carpenter and worked in the trades his entire life. His cordless tools were always Makita. They last. I ended up going the same direction probably due to his influence, but also because Makita is the last independent company that makes and sells power tools under its own brand. The rest are conglomerates with multiple brands, and companies. Corporate consolidation has created an oligopoly with most brands being made by just a few companies.
Same. When my grinder developed a rattle after years of use, the Makita service center replaced the broken bushing and power cord at no charge. I have to have a very good reason to buy a non-Makita power tool.
My first battery drill was a 9.6V Metabo from the eighties. Lasted a good 20 years. Replaced it with a set (drill and driver) of Makita tools. Lasted about five minutes. Absolute crap. The red batteries were the problem. Replaced with a set of lithium battery tools. The drill won't engage in second gear. My old Makita sabre saw, however, lasted about 30 years.
My dad gave me his old cordless Makita drill from the 80's - still worked until the old NiCad battery finally gave up the ghost.
Don't forget festool is still family owned.
Exact reason I chose Makita
I have been a carpenter/ contractor for 43 years. My skill saws model 77 are my go to framing tools are will always be in my tool box
I’m mostly Milwaukee but also own Bosch, dewalt, makita, a corded skill aluminum worm drive etc. they’re all fine. I started 30 years ago with lower quality tools then upgraded. Through the years I would have a new young laborer working for me and they would ask to borrow a tool to use at home over the weekend. If they’re a good hand I would find one of those older tools that still works just fine and give it to them to keep. An old black and decker corded saw or recip saw was a fine tool and will get a young person started, plus they’ll get to feel the real power of a good corded tool.😉
Dewalt is my go to, mainly due to not needing different batteries/chargers for the different tools. Started with Dewalt many years ago and so far have had no problems with anything I have bought . Thanks for your insight!
100% agree about the skilsaw. I started working as a carpenter around 1978 and was a journeyman for many years. First skilsaw was all metal (no mag back then) but have stuck with them all the way. Still have a porter cable router made in Jackson, Tennessee. If you look at most tools sold anywhere in America practically all are made in china. Most are affordable and disposable. Not any good ole goid ones anymore. Still have my first set of leather nail bags almost 50 years old!
The more pertinent question may be, how much loyalty does the tool brand I use or favor, have towards me the customer. "Right to Repair", after sales Service & Repair, Warranty, Battery Platform stability and accessibility, Accessories and Parts availability and price. Brand Loyalty appears to exist in only one direction these days.
So true
I was a cut man for a framing crew for over 10 years, the red mag 77 was the only saw I ever used. Still got the first one I ever bought and used all them years. Never have checked grease in it. Have only put new cords on it.
Lol this is like bragging about never changing the oil in your car.
But I have owned it for over 20 years now and the motor doesn't even knock....
- Quality is the main concern. You buy cheap, you get cheap.
- Most tools bought today are not near as good as they were 20 years ago.
- I have 3 PorterCable tools that I purchased 27 years ago [ 1/2 inch drill, SawsAll, & belt Sander ] all are still working great.
- My Milwaukee corded saw still works just like it did new. Great saw. Milwaukee has a great dependable product line. A wise investment.
- The Big Thing To Remember Is = Take Care Of Your Tools And The Tools Will Take Care Of You.
- Thank You for another great well-delivered video.
I always wipe or blow off the saw dust from my tools and put them away , my Dad and brothers taught me that when I was growing up watching them work and then they would have me clean the tools before putting them away
I don't know about all that, but running air into the motor intake and exhaust will absolutely extend the life of the motor otherwise covered in sawdust.
@@josephdestaubin7426 I still have my skill saw 15 years, craftsman 10 in miter saw 1998 and Craftsman 1996 10 in Radial arm saw still running and my other and power hand tools and air tools. even after I am done for the day and tired I clean my tools then take my shower. as we would say in the military " you take care of your equipment the equipment will take care of you"
Your Dad and brothers taught you a great lesson. When you’re done using your tools, clean them off and put them away and the next time you need one you’ll know where it’s at and that it’s ready to go.
@@Hoaxer51 I even clean my safety glasses and put them away.
Totally Agree on Skill Worm Drive and Makita battery-powered tools.😊 I use Ryobi around the house. Thanks for your comments. I learn so much from your channel.
I have to say, I bought my worm drive skilsaw in 1977, my very first power toll, I still have it, it still works, I've used it nearly every day.
Love my Skilsaw. Mine is 40 yrs strong. Other brands I like, Dewalt, Milwaukee, Makita, Paslode and Senco.
I worked at a lumber yard in 1992 as a young 20s year old. It taught me a couple things about tools. Porter Cable at the time was the best tool available at the time with Bosch right with it. Bosch is still a top brand and Dewalt exploded from the B&D Professional line. I totally agree about brand loyalty, best tool you can afford and treat it good, you have a jobber friend for life. I purchased a 6” left blade Porter cable corded circ saw in 1994 and I still use it at home over a battery version. It just works. Thanks for the video!
To be blunt ... it's the same loyalty issue with things like TH-cam channels. And there's a really good reason why i keep looking at new videos on this one.
When I bought my power tools, Milwaukee, porter cable, Bosch, Skillsaw, they all came in metal boxes, still got them, can’t kill them
In 2005, I bought a 1999 Silverado 2500 HD 4x4 with 83,000 miles on it and today, it sits in my driveway with 330,000 miles on it. Has never let me down but I felt it performed all the work I could reasonably expect it to do. So last year, I bought a brand new 2023 Silverado 2500 HD 4x4 based exclusively on the performance of my old one. At 50 years old, I do not expect I’ll buy another truck in my lifetime barring a major collision. I’ve owned 3 pickups over my lifetime and 1 SUV, a 1996 GMC Jimmy. The first truck was a 1987 Chevy 1/2 ton. General Motors has never let me down. Others may disagree but when I need to go anywhere, I do not think twice about my vehicles. Well, all except for that 2008 Jeep Wrangler my wife insisted on owning! She loves it though so I do not complain about any of the work I need to do on it. In fact, I should thank the Jeep. It justified my purchase of a 2 post lift a few years ago!
back in 1986 I bought the Gold painted Skil 50th Anniversary Mag 77 with the blue metal carrying case !
many have asked WHY I painted it GOLD ? I told them it was sold this way .. and Yes it still works like brand new .
My buddy still has his
I just found your channel new to the trades as an hvac apprentice. Everything I’ve watched so far has been spot on and the way you articulate your opinions and the information you give is outstanding sir definitely gained a new subscriber.
Great Video - I have a 37 year old Bosch jigsaw used 99% for contour cutting 1/4" steel plate - still going strong. I bought another well respected brand - just in case - and even brand new doesn't work anywhere near as well as the old Bosch - So I found a not too used Bosch and bought it.
As a framer, yeah I’m brand loyal. Cordless I prefer the Makita 18 and 40v. 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Leather bags (Mcrose)
-Dalluge Classic 26oz
-Hitachi NR83A
-Skilsaw mag77
-Emglo compressor
Very wise words. Personally, I have a lot of Makita tools because, like you, I'm invested in the battery platform and they hit the right price to performance balance for me. The most disappointing tools have probably been the Festools I've bought. They feel good in the hand but their performance is about the same as all the other leading brands now but they cost twice as much.
Ive been watching your channel for a few years now and I've bought tools based on your opinions and experiences with them. Occidental leather bags, buckaroo belt, Stiletto hammer, rigging axe, skilsaw mag 77 and paslode Pneumatic Framing Nailers will never change. I love them. I use them every day to feed my family. All I can say is thank you Scott and everyone on the essential craftsman channel! Keep up the good work!
I'm not a professional construction guy. I have been using the Bauer cordless tool 20V line of tools for my little projects for about three years now, and I can't complain. They do what I need to do and haven't given me any trouble.
I have 5 worm drives and would never use anything different…for one reason is the safety!
I got 61/2, 71/2, 10”, 16” and the newer table saw…great investments
I have an old (probably 70s or 80s) Sears Jigsaw that will probably pass on to my kids when my time comes. So many electric tools, gadgets, entertainment and computer equipment are built for planned obsolescence. At least we still have eBay and local Marketplace sites to buy the old stuff that lasts.
I collect old tools. With its bidding war mentality, Ebay is usually the most expensive place to shop for them.
Any boy who grew up with a home full of tools is a blessed boy. My Dad had all sorts of tools, and I am following in his footsteps. Not a tradesman, but a software guy. But still skilled enough to have finished my own basement, and built my own shed.
As a DIY guy and weekend woodworker, I have also purchased a variety of things-- mostly based on what I could afford. My Ryobi cordless tools have never failed me, and I love my CORDED Skil circular saw and router!
I've got a Left hand and a Right hand Mag77.. i'm a switch hitter that's prepared for anything !
They make a blade right worm drive?
Or you mean sidewinder skills brand?
Ski saw is still the only one to have plug in left blade sidewinder (called southpaw) which is awesome
I was not aware there was a left hand version? This could really come into play, on certain locations. Cool.
Double sawing action!
@@sleblanc, One for each hand! Lol
Early on in my career I used to use the high powered M18 fuel Milwaukee tools for every single job just because I always wanted the best. I have since realized that those overpowered heavy tools are not necessary for 90% of the work I do. I've since switched to the little light and compact M12 tools and my wrist have thanked me
I'm a DIY weekend warrior. In my opinion, for cordless tools, the darn battery platforms hold more people "captive" than "loyal." I stubbornly held onto my old 18V XRP Dewalts for 10+ years because I didn't want to buy new tools + batteries + chargers. However, that all changed last year when I finally bit the bullet and bought a full set of Milwaukee Fuel. The power and speed that these new tools put out versus my old Dewalts is amazing. It's also incredible that I can now work for all or most of a day on a single battery per tool, which is something I haven't done since my old Dewalts were new.
The new Dewalt 20v last just as long as Milwaukee, I know I use both platforms in my business both are great tools.
Love using my vintage hand and electric tools.
I’ve seen your earlier episode on the topic. About 2 weeks ago my 32 year old Porter Cable saw finally bit the dust. I paid a pretty penny for it in 1992 and it served me well for those long years on a couple dozen robust DIY projects, including a barn and a well house. I have a battery powered DeWalt that I use occasionally, but I like a corded saw. I took your advice and bought a Skilsaw. I have used it on one project so far and really love it. If I can get 32 years out of it, I will see 100 years old and will be completely satisfied.
I mostly use DeWalt battery tools: saws, drills, impact drivers, impact wrenches, etc. In the 90s I wore out a Makita battery operated drill and I do have a corded Makita hammer drill. I’ve also got some battery operated tools from Ryobi, Milwaukee, and Hitachi. It’s all in what works for you in your situation.
Thanks for your good work and all you do.
Look at a Skil tool today, consumer grade only. Back in the 70's I purchased a Skil 449 worm drive belt sander. In my opinion, it's the best belt sander ever made! A true workhorse.
The company making Skil tools also makes Skilsaw tools. Skilsaw is their professional grade line.
Skill and skill saw are made churvan. The make kolbalt tools skill, skill saws and many other brands.
I worked at Porter Cable in the late 90’s. I worked in the Engineering department and luckily bought several tools. Everything was so well built. We had belt sander and routers there that were decades old. It’s so sad to see what Porter Cable has turned into, but I still treasure my corded tools from then. Now I use Dewalt, Makita, and Milwaukee cordless platforms. I love them all.
I just wish the current owners would let the name Porter-Cable ride off in the sunset.
Been at for a bit, framed for a couple of decades, a large portion of that with gentleman named Tom Bricky that you remind me of, he was fast, efficient and we were always trying new techniques, one of my favorites was taking a Skil 6-1/2” worm drive removing the blade guard and using 7-1/4” blade, we would also remove cord at boot and install a twist lock, the saw was very well balanced and a bit lighter, I always wished they made that saw in a 5-1/2” just for 90 degree cuts in 2x stock, later switched to the mag 77, and then mag 77LT, now my go to is the makita 36v, I only use corded if there is extensive ripping to save battery life, I couldn’t imagine using corded tools for much of anything anymore (except table saw).
For context this is my 44th year as a carpenter, thank you the videos, they make me think of younger times.
I bought a worm drive skill saw because of your videos and absolutely love it!!!
My dad was an independent contractor/builder when I was a kid, back in the 80s, I was a helper on the job site. I remember he acquired a deck&blacker (that's what we called it, blacker than the Pit of Despair!) wormdrive saw, it was broke more than it worked! The motor ate brushes for breakfast, it growled at you like a bear when you pulled the trigger, the cord came out of the back and was hanging by the wires, the motor threw enough blue Sparks that you thought it was going to start a fire! That was the worst tool on the job!! We finally gave its dead carcass a spot in a box in the shop because we never wanted to throw anything away, but we finally quit using the miserable thing, after it would dump you in the middle of the day on a job. The mighty wormdrive Skillsaw was our stand by that never ever failed us even once! I think he still has it to this day
40 years later mine still works great. my favorite worm drive. LOL.
I love dewalt. When I was a Carpenter's helper I used his makita tools. I liked makita but when I learned about different brands and the fact that dewalt just brought out the flexvolt system I immediately went for those. My christmas gift when i first started my apprenticeship was 2 dewalt tool bags, an 18v Dewalt SDS and a 54v 9ah battery. Ever since then I buy dewalt. I know that the cordless nail guns arent as good as milwaukee or hikoki but apart from that they always do the job for me. Whatever suits you go for. Whether that be by using the one brand or using a mix and match as long as the work is quality
I think its good to mention that battery adapters are readily available if you wanna try a particular tool. I forget the brand, but theres also a universal battery, that comes with different adapters that you can use for every tool.
Yes sir...great way to put every thing....
I have all the tools more or less in a battery and corded version. Outside of the drill and impact driver, I would say my favorite tool in a battery version is the sawzall. So handy for pipe fitting in the yard or cutting a small branch etc. granted I rarely use my corded tools anyway, but you would have to put up the biggest fight to take away my cordless sawzall.
I still have the Skill 77 I bought in the seventies and it still works, I bought the Mag one when it came out because it was a bit lighter, the old Porter Cable stuff is fantastic. But like a bunch of brands they have sold out and care more about profits than making a quality tool for the professional.
I agree. As we saw in the video, the only good news is that you cans still find quality American made tools in the used market.
Not so much brand, as battery platform. Several years ago I was helping roof a house (basically just supplying labor). The guy running the job had a variety of cordless tool brands. The battery for his circular saw ran out with us having only 5' of sheathing to cut to finish the job. He didn't have any other batteries in that platform, so we had to kill a bunch of time waiting for his saw to get enough of a charge to finish up. I kept that in mind as I was adding to my cordless tools, and kept with the same platform for everything I take out on a job, if possible.
Carpenter here. When i started working i had cordless makitas (5year old ones) at the company and we used them alot and of course some people mistreated them alot cuz "eh company tool" but that got me thinking "what if i get my own full kit and only i maintain and use them?". In the end still have them after 8 years and served me well even to this day ❤ (all i had to do untill this day is replace 3x batteries wich is like 150€ in 8 years and charcoal and trigger for the drill 40€ + a shit ton of blades for the skillsaw but that i asked from the company always so never had to buy them myself)
My grandpa bought me a B&D jigsaw and delivered a box of scrap wood with it on my 6th birthday. I still use that jigsaw today 45 years later
I’m out of the trades now, however you’re spot on!
Older Porter cable were fantastic and I still cherish them. Cordless, I’m still running 18v Makita impact drivers and drill’s that are from 2004, batteries are now a bit weak but I’m still using them and are performing flawlessly.
Mag77 or the older heavier version “the perfect saws” and built like an American tool should be!
Not a fan of Bosch however! Here in Montana it seems as though the cold is hard on their plastics.
Ohh and go “BLUE”
25 years self employed bought every brand run 20v DeWalt since they came out.never use a cord or generation again. I work sometimes 60 feet up.love all tools and brands!
Good old wisdom. Thank you for being you and sharing your thoughts with us.
Another Dutch saying: Trust comes in on foot but leaves on horse.
I bought a worm drive Skill Saw in 1972, $149.95 plus tax, thought I'd choke! I used that saw my entire career (never has needed any repairs), still have it and grab it when I want to cut something quickly.
You paid for American-made quality in those days and you got American-made quality. My original Porter-Cable tools from the 1960s and 70s are even more expensive.
We’ve got very similar tastes Scott, I make my living with a couple old f350’s, Makita tools and a kubota skid steer. It’s all personal preference and what your comfortable with. Keep up the good work!
Great video
I'm a die hard Milwaukee guy but I use to use Makita and loved the tools but the battery cycle count was the reason I switched and because of a few key cordless tools the Milwaukee offered that Makita did not.
That said I have used almost all of the major brands professionally and here is my ranking. Best to worse considering quality, tool options,
Milwaukee
DeWalt
Makita
Hilti
Metabo
Ridgid
Bosch
Porter cable
Craftsman
Ryobi/Hart
Honorable mention Harbor freights more expensive line I've heard good things about but have no experience with. Probably between Ridgid and Bosch but 🤷
I buy based on which tool has the features that make the quality of life on the job a bit easier. Started w/ Dewalt, my all time favorite impact driver from them, then recently switched over to Milwaukee's cordless b/c of the oscillating tool, grinder, and stubby impact/mid torque. Very thankful for the tools I have as they have kept my family mobile through fixing the car, built our kitchen and renovated our bathrooms DIY, saving thousands upon thousands of dollars.
Great information. I like the direction of this topic and manipulating power and hand tools in general.
Porter Cable door planer in my opinion is the best on the market.
I have a Makita 18v kit that I got when they first came out. Still has two of the original batteries. I have Milwaukee and DeWalt as well I think you buy the tool that suits the job. Batteries and chargers aren't hard to come by if you keep your eyes open. My sons are young adults now just getting into the trade I think their kids will be amazed to hear that they remember Grandpa using tools that you had to plug in to a cord running to an outlet in the wall. Between hand tools and cordless tools there are often days we never plug anything in. The new batteries last long enough the chargers stay in the trailer and only run over night.
As a weekend warrior, I've been happy with Ryobi- impact driver, drill, finish nailer all decently priced.
I still have a sweet, fully-functioning 7 1/4” Black and Decker Super Sawcat with the large shoe and electric brake. Bought it in 1977 at Northwest Hardware in Roanoke on a 90 day credit plan. I replaced the cord long ago with a heavy duty 12’ cable. With the right blade, I can rip 2x stock all day long. No wobble, no hesitation.
In the 1990s I worked with a carpenter who used a Sawcat. Someone else on the crew bought a new DeWalt saw. It was identical to the sawcat except for the color.
A couple of years ago I bought a Sawcat which was sitting unused, in its original box in a corner of the original owner's basement since 1981. Now it proudly sits unused in the corner of my basement! 😁
That porter cable router you pulled out is all we have in my shop. They’re incredibly well built and very reliable. If they need fixed we have a guy in Indianapolis that always comes through for us.
Thank you so much for this video. It means a lot. Honesty is so hard to find as a newbie to the trades.
I suggested this on your last anniversary video and I think now more than ever, it would help you diversify a bit and gain a larger audience. You should consider doing videos on iconic people in these businesses. The classic ones being Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, among others but also lesser known people. Sam Altman, Kent Taylor, and so many more people that deserve to be celebrated for their contributions to businesses that span the globe!
Congrats on another great year and I hope this suggestion helps :)
I can't remember ever using anything other than a skill worm drive. At one time I think I had at least four of them on the job site. The only time I got rid of any of them was when I retired and then still kept one. Oh, another time was when I gave the saw to my son. Then, of course, I had to buy a new 77 for myself.
Years ago I had a corded Metabo hammer drill that was an absolute beast. Sadly, it was stolen. Fast forward to 2023 when I bought a cordless Metabo drill and impact driver. They are decent tools but the quality is nothing like the Metabo of 20 years ago, and I feel the same way about Porter Cable.
My father used to tell me how good they were, and I believed him ,not only because he told me but because I remember them covered with battle scars and still getting the job done. It's unfortunate that many manufactures have sacrificed quality for profit.
I wish Stanley- Black & Decker would stop making their zombie Porter-Cable tools.
Thanks for your informative reviews. They are right on the money. I took your advice and put a 50’ cord on my skilsaw, thank you, no more knot tying. Now I would like to trade a tip to you. The aftermarket rafter hook for the skilsaw wormdrives are still available online and they fit perfectly on the hitachi/Metabo nr83a, nr83a2, and nr83a5 framing nailers with the steel nail feeder. After promising that the Mikita 40v saw would always have a place in your tool box, you gave it to Nate. Hope the tip helps.
I watch your videos for your ability to relate traditional knowledge to modern topics, and above all your articulation. If or when you write a book, I will buy it. You’d be the Eric Sloane of a generation on.
my personal experience in the last 13 years working in construction. #1 makita. Reliable and durable. Limited catalog and expensive
#2 Bosch heavy-duty tools are tough. Limited catalog only for professionals.
#3 milwaukee wide variety of tools. They have everything you need. Excellent batteries and bad chargers. Power tools are short-lived. most tools will last a short time.
#4 dewalt quality and price. batteries and chargers always break down
A brand has you until they lose you. DeWalt had me until they switched to 20v. Milwaukee still has me but some issues caused me to start with Makita's XGT line.
The best tool is the one in you hand. They all can do the job. It comes down to what you're willing to pay and if the platform can give you most of what you need. Comfort is a big factor too. I watch all these videos on which drive can do it faster. Ok but in reality that is small potato's. Price is what you pay and value is what you get. All brands have lemon's and true with most products you buy these days. What's important is how the brand supports the product and the consumers. I personally have been working with Skil tools, and their performance has been strong, but I am sure thats the case with most brands.
One of the pieces of advice i would give to anyone looking at buying into a battery platform is: look at what tools are available on that battery platform. For what I do I wouldn't buy into a platform without a decent midsize portaband, and some brands cater more towards specific trades. Milwaukee offers a battery powered knockout set for electrical, for example.
Like you I used to be very loyal to a certain brand. But now so many tools are so good I just look for the best deal with the best warranty.
Milwaukee, Metabo (HItachi), Makita. The best 3. We use the battery skil saws now. The Metabo HPT 36 volt is the lightest and very powerful.
I've got the 36v Makita rear handle saw for about 5 years now, my coworker has the Hitachi rear handle saw, it is definitely lighter, but not as much torque as the Makita, I guess because its less volts? It's noticeable when ripping something heavy. The Hitachi also takes a half second to spin after the trigger pull which I find amusing
I work in the garage door business and a carpenter i wouldn't say I'm brand loyal but I also don't have alot of different brands in my tool box. I have mainly dewalt and rigid tools as I didn't want a pile of different battery charges around. I also have a Eastwing framing hammer and run with what I can afford, feels comfortable and gets the job done efficiently.
Having the right tools matters most =)
We used Makita at the HVAC company I worked for. They were awesome. Now I’m retired and Ryobi is just fine for the average homeowner at a very economical price point.
But I hope you know it's different than I have been 10 years ago they're respectable
Indeed. For starting my company, it's just me. I bought some low cost tools but I will buy more of American Made tools to get the job done.
Moved from Ryobi to DeWalt to Milwaukee to Makita.. each time a step up. Skilsaw for the win, but I run 7 1/4 blades on the 6 1/2 one.
Homeowner-level here. For many years I bought almost all my tools second hand. Got a lot of good ones. Started buying new with drill/driver and progressed from Ryobi to Ridgid and now Bosch. Love my Bosch tools! I have some Dewalt corded that I love too. Still always look for second hand tools at estate sales. Latest was a Wen bandsaw. Does the job! No brand loyalty from me just looking for the best I can get at a good price.
Makita # 5806b 7 1/4" blade right saw is my favourite saw ,framed more houses than I can remember.
I love the Ryobi brand becuase of the wide range of tools that use the same 18v batteries. I moved away from Dewalt to go to Ryobi - partly because of my good friends was a Ryobi rep, but mostly because of the variety of tools.
ryobi ahahahahahahahaha the Temu/Wish of cordless drill brands
@@boxybox100 - You do you, I'll do me. Ryobi has worked well for me.
43 years a framer. Dalluge hammers, Skilsaws ,hitachi nail guns DeWalt compressor and drill /driver. Red wing boots ,occidental bags Ford trucks
I had that PC 690 router until last year when I replaced it with a Bosch. It worked like a champ but it was time to update. My dad has one of those Skilsaws like yours - a great saw. I'm in Makita's tool line for cordless, but I have other brands based on quality, price, weight, etc. Go with what works for you.
PorterCable stopped making every tool that worked from bullet-proof belt sanders to industry standard routers...
What a shame.
I have an old US made Porter Cable 3 inch belt sander that I bought at a yard sale 10 years ago for $5.
The cord was dry rot, so I replaced it, and it still works great.
Sometimes when I push it too hard it will start smoking, but it hasn't given up on me yet.
You can blame Stanley Black & Decker for that. Couldn't have PC competing with DeWalt
We have a 250lb porter cable belt grinder still in use at the machine shop. Complete cast steel construction. It takes 10x72 belts.
Porter Cable was bought by DeWalt, and their quality was immediately reduced to a homeowner/DIY quality tool so they wouldn't have two brands competing against each other. That's the way it goes, people might be individually good but corporations are greedy and scummy at every opportunity they have.
@@DegonTheMighty The Irony is they do B&D also. I used to be loyal to PC because of great experiences, and even some innovations, starting in the 80s, but they don't do anything for me at this point.
I was working a job that had a 1000s of windows.
The glazer contracted is a company that's been around a couple of decades or more.
The foreman of the crew was utilizing Ryobi cordless. Those tools looked like they had seen a fair amount of work.
Finally, my inquisitiveness got the best of me.
So I approached him and asked why Ryobi?
"They do the job day in day out. Most importantly, no one steals Ryobi". He then went on to explain in short. Makita,DeWalt, and Milwaukee get legs. The Ryobi apparently doesn't have that flaw.
Needed some cordless tools around the house. Spent less money on Ryobi. That was three years ago. They are doing just fine.
As a weekend warrior, I usually buy cheap and expect the tool to break. Then I know I've use it frequently enough to justify the cost of good ones.
I also use good consumables on cheap gears. Expensive saw blades, expensive drill bits. They worked out really well. It's not the saw that cuts, it's the blade that cuts.
And don't cheap out on safety gears. Nothing worth more than health. If you are sick/injured, it's way too expensive to get back to health, if possible at all.
6-1/2 Skill worm drive made only a few years before the mag came out, a tool i cannot live without.
I’ve been in the sign business for about 11 years, my old mentor used dewalt so I did also and have used dewalt since. They have never let me down always got the job done I don’t have a reason to switch. Some tools like tape measures I’ve tried a bunch and eventually found one I like the blue irwins sold at Lowe’s. But bottom line use the tool that does the work 👍
My family has been a Ford family since Ford made the Model T. In fact, my dad rebuild a Model T (many years ago), and I remember it boggling my mind at how truly old it was, and it still ran.
I recently bought a Chevy. Sacrilege in my family, but they didn't want to help me afford a better truck. That 1999 2500 with 300k miles, hauled my family of 4 and a 21' camper trailer across the Rockies and back (roughly 2k miles). Yes, it the heat got high and I had to pull over, but it didn't have a trans cooler. It sits in my driveway for months at a time, but when I hit that ignition, it doesn't stutter. It just runs
I will always be a Ford fanboy, but I will never let the Silverado go...
I have a blend of tools with makitas being the most predominant, and I still prefer corded to cordless. I got a cheap 18v cordless ryobi impact driver over a decade ago and it became my favorite. Dropped it thousands of times, used as a hammer and just abused it every way possible. I let the smoke out of it finally a few days ago so im thinking ill try Milwaukee next. I was gifted a couple 12v makita drills a few years ago and they were pure junk. I dont think they would even suffice for casual home use. Voltage and amperage on the battery platform makes a world of difference.
Listen to Scott Porter Cable, I 100% agree! Get your act together and make a decent product again!
as long as it gets the job done, isnt overpriced, and doesnt just break after a few times using it then it really doesnt matter what name is stamped or printed on the tool
I’ve worn a few hats by now. As a carpenter, I loved makita and their lineup. Their construction tools just last so long! However as a mechanic you can’t beat Milwaukee, especially with their m12 lineup.
Old Porter Cable tools are bomb proof. You can rely on them. When all these companies started merging the quality of previous quality tools went South.
Interesting to watch aVe BOLTR videos on some of these brands of tools. From injection molding quality to the internal components such as bearings, switches, etc . He really gets in there and figures out just how cheap (or expensive) these tool brands are.
@@brent57
Agreed. Uncle Bumble is a rich resource of information.
@@Alpha-ro8sc, And he’s always good for a couple good laughs!
As a home owner that started with Craftsmen corded tools and still have them today. I don't see much need to be loyal to a particular brand today. Many of the consumer grade tools are made by a few OEMs regardless of brand. I buy better tools, but not usually the best. I use DeWalt cordless today. Certainly consideration has to be paid to the battery platform and variety of tools available on that platform. I can't speak to pro grade tools. There may be many good reasons for brand loyalty.
I've been a makita guy since I got my first job that required cordless drill back in 2000