You are subjectively correct. Their are still people who would still buy a pricey console for just 1 exclusive game; Take nintendo for example. The difference is that they mostly make their consoles the most affordable which helps with their exclusive & profit
@@BrownieEXE This is true, but I think Nintendo is able to do this precisely because their consoles are not only more affordable, but often include innovations where the appeal is new modes of gameplay that other consoles are unable to replicate. For example, the dual-screen nature of the DS and 3DS, the motion controls on the Wii, or the home-console-and-portable-device-in-one Switch. When you have all that going for you, the console itself is more of a selling point. (I do still really wish Nintendo would do PC releases, even if they had to make their own in-house launchpad for it.)
@@ironrex6979 I mean, I think the issue is, though "popular", Kingdom Hearts is also a pile of extra convoluted nonsense that, almost certainly, embarrasses and confounds the Disney execs and creatives. "How the heck is this a series? How is it still alive?"
@ nah people love that. More practical and realistic is Disney killing it. Only realistic reason for Nomura wanting to retire and being disappointed by the change of plans. Disney also ruined parts of KH3 too.
@ That would be a critically big mistake on their part. It’s one of their flagship franchises. But I do truly believe there is a possibility that KH4 might be going through some huge conceptual changes compared to what it was originally going to be.
@@gamer4ever838nope it’s not but I believe it’s coming out in 2027 and even that year could e too early because I believe also that Missing Link would take a few years for story telling at least 2 years of story before KH4
@@Mew_Stor We literally had story updates for Union X both during and after the release of KH3, with it finally ending a whole two years later. They are NOT waiting for Missing-Link's story to wrap up in its entirety before releasing KH4, you're nuts.
Missing Link is definitely intended to be a major part of the cycle leading up into KH4, so I definitely don’t see us getting any KH4 news until ML is out. Once ML is out I think we’ll start seeing more.
I’m gonna be honest, so far this has felt worse than the KH3 news cycle. At least back then we had other side releases to keep us occupied, now we can’t even get our dumb mobile game distraction. 💀
I remember back in 2022, I was optimistic and confident that KH4 would RELEASE in 2025. At this point, I'm not sure if marketing is even gonna be in 2025.
I’m just going to remain hopeful and focus on different media for now. Constantly watching for KH4 when Missing Link is currently delayed - I think Nomura has mentioned that ML is a necessary piece to KH4’s puzzle, so with ML delayed, it’s going to be a while - I’m afraid I will burn myself out on the series, without having done a full replay of it😅
I told yall we were not going to get any information this year. Horrible practice by Square. The fact that a mobile game prompted a closed beta and it never came speaks volumes. KH department in shambles
think the anti-mobile snapping and closure to a bunch of sqaure mobile games conflicted with it, there are probably only so few of them still active now
You know what I find it really insane? Valve releasing 2 anniversary documentary for HL1 and HL2 in 2 years with serious real leaks of a HL3 being in development, all that while Square has been silenced on both KH4 and Missing-Link, I start to feel like Square is turning into the new Valve in regarding of Kingdom Hearts
I had to look this up. Half life one came out in 1998. Half life 2 in 2004. KH came out in 2002. Chain of memories came out in 2004... So that's a GBA game, a remake of the GBA game, Days, unchained to union, KH 2, birth by sleep, 3D, recorded the final mixes, 2.8, KH3 and dark road... All before Half life 3.... Yeah.... I think we're fine
@@phantombigboss8429 I was making a joke about the silence on KH and how we have more stuff out of Valve. Besides I am not joking about HL3, the codes found through dataminding 100% con firm a new HL game is in development, regardless fi it is a HL3 or HLx, something is for real being worked on now, even Gave hinted at it at the end of 2 hours documentary video.
@@greenth-mac2550 your joke was flat because Kingdom Hearts released more games between Half life 2 and Half life Alyx. So I don’t get it at all. It took more than ten years for Kingdom hearts 3 to come out. I’m sure KH4 will come out when it’s ready. Also Half life 3 is the one late to the party here. Almost every game I waited for years came out first than Half life 3.
Nomura is such an exacting creative that I can’t help but think he’s going to be a “Hayao Miyazaki” type: go into “retirement” and then actually just keep working on creative projects because he can’t help himself
I got sick of waiting so I’ve spent the last 9 months on unreal engine making my own game influenced by Kingdom hearts, Bloodborne, Spyro, ratchet & Clank and final fantasy 10. I’ll have a trailer out for the demo before the next one for KH4 😂 can’t take anymore waiting!
Its not strange. this has been textbook Square Enix for almost 20 years now. -unreasonably Long release times -absolute silence on their progress over years and years -releasing unfinished game with the finished part as DLC -development disasters resulting in devastation -The current fan base fighting tooth-and-nail to defend every bad decision they make. The fact that Square is going through development issues and delaying a *mobile game* of all things is the final nail in the coffin for me. I miss the days of FF6-X where they were pumping out an amazing game almost once a year. full of content and amazing stories. Ever since Squaresoft merged with Square Enix, they haven't been the same. Their side projects like Octopath Traveller and Triangle Strategy get more love and attention than the games that are the face of their company like FF and KH. It is what it is. Ive accepted it long ago. I just hope this new busineess strategy is a good move. I think no longer making exclusives is a step in the right direction
I do hope that we get some news about Square's plans relatively soon after the new year starts. They have been awfully quiet and it is getting somewhat concerning. Though I still don't get what Square is doing at Jump Festa, other than having a Dragon Quest Booth and giving away merch. I know that in the past Square showed trailers there (like for KH3). I also know they have their manga publishing stuff too, but there's no info anywhere about what they're showing there this time, except for that DQ Booth. Does anybody know more about their part at Jump Festa?
It is so far from quality when you compare it to the mobile games that just get churned out of china I presume they realized that they were already falling behind on modern standards for mobile gaming I was playing Infinity Nikki on my phone and it is boasting some really impressive fidelity
There's still a lot of social media activity on the square enix Twitter page, being very interactive with fans so I know they're probably cooking with that info too
I have always felt like we would get some information around Christmas time of 2024 at the earliest and that we would get more in 2025 with a release around the end of the year. Either way w eat least we know we will be getting a finished project instead of a work in progress.
I'm putting my bets on us getting info on missing link in March and kh4 info in the summer. It would make the most sense promotion wise. Kh has a history of showing stuff around then so that's where I'm placing my bet
I completely agree that it makes sense for them to start doing their own Nintendo Direct-esque streams. Lower cost and freedom to reveal information when its available and within reasonable release periods of said game being revealed. But Square has had alot a failures in recent years. KH3 was probably its best and highest grossing release recently, and thats to a niche audience. Wasted money on cancelled projects, which how many of those i dont think we will ever know, and then rereleasing old and already released/remastered IP when it doesnt make sense to. Personally, i have enjoyed their silence because i hope that means that they are ready to give a MAJOR upgrade in quality of release, and the polish on that release. Hopefully they start getting on track, because otherwise its looking like they will either be forced into a position of shutting down or being acquired. Latter case being the best remaining option.
Yeah I thought we were going to see at least one new game announcement from them that is not KH4. None the less, I can wait and super happy with the reveals we did get especially with classic capcom series returning and Clive in Tekken.
I think it’s good for there to be no constant news. I don’t think people want another situation with KH3 where we heard about it so often we were spoiled on a lot. But I do think an update or something from Nomura would be nice. Plus, I doubt we will see anything about 4 until Missing Link drops.
Even though I’m annoyed about the fact that will still don’t have any news I’m busying myself with other things so I don’t go insane. I love Kingdom Hearts but but I will definitely be focusing on my other interests until we have news, I recommend the wider fandom does the same as it’s seriously not healthy to completely tie yourself to something no matter how much it means to you
It is pretty insane that we haven't gotten ANY updates on KH4 since the reveal. I don't think this is gonna be a KH3 situation, but I'm starting to think we might not get the game until after FF7R3 (which is likely a 2027 game) I'm hoping we get some news in 2025, but if the dry spell continues....
The industry has a problem with announcing these games too early and leading to these long droughts without any news. I'm adamant that games should not be announced more than 2 years out from release and developers should be able to have a consistent roll out of updates, trailers, and interviews during that time then we wouldn't run into these issues.
I'm sure they're cooking behind the scenes. Probably trying to figure out what to remaster next. Or they may try and create new ip that will have a better chance of landing. I think they're starting to learn not to make premature announcements
It hurts to hear that ff16 "didn't meet sale expectations", it's one of my all time favorite games and square really needed to temper their expectations for a Playstation exclusive, if they don't wisen up now they'll be facing the same crisis they faced when they made final fantasy
im telling yall,KH4 wont be out til 2026. Nomura LOVES the numbers 7 and 13. 2019 was when KH3 came out,7yrs later will be 2026. in fact,we have gotten a major KH Sequel every 7yrs so far , since KH2. KH3D came out 7yrs after 2,and KH3 came out 7yrs after 3D.
I don't have many gaming franchises I'm into, but I'm glad I'm not obsessed with KH to the point of getting more and more impatient as the years go by and we get no news.
I just hope and pray that we'll see new TWEWY content. Unfortunately, Neo was given a shoestring budget and apparently was meant to sell as good as FF7R and their Marvel tie-in game? I think they just don't know how to manage expectations and are expecting exponential growth
I definitely prefer this to KH3's development cycle, where we kept getting trailers but the game just never seemed to come out for years. I'll take silence over that any year of the century.
So like I said before Square hit a roadblock that threw them off this year and it required them to make changes. Likely being the reason they’ve remained quiet. Now I do not agree with not communicating that to us if that is the case and I hope the high up execs are getting chewed out for their stupid choices that caused the roadblock to start with.
0:16 okay someone needs to edit this bit by turning Jared's face red and making steam come out of his is ears! xD Hopefully 2025 will give us something to look forward too!
I remember when we thought KH3’s assets and newfound engine expertise would future proof development time and somehow we’re in a bigger drought. I think they went a little too hard on KH3 marketing so it’s not so much that I need a trailer as I wonder why they even announced it.
I didn't know that Square Enix changed leadership. That might be a step in the right direction, because for the past three years or so the president of Square Enix has been putting out these end-of-year letters reflecting on the year and stating goals for the next year of the company, and they've all mentioned NFTs and crypto. I'm hoping that with a new president who's wiped out a glut of development projects, he's also put the kibosh on any crypto-related projects. Talk about a waste of time and money. On the other hand, I remember there being talk back in the day about how Square were holding off on a fully fledged Final Fantasy 7 remake unless they needed an absolute hail mary. This is just hearsay in the gaming space so I could be all wrong, but the Remake announcement came off the heels of Final Fantasy XV - itself a game with a troubled development cycle and not the best sales - and the divisive FFXIII trilogy. FF14 was in there too, both the original release and A Realm Reborn, but from XIII onwards I feel like the flagship Final Fantasy brand has been in trouble. Final Fantasy 7 Remake came at a point where the brand was in a very shaky position, and it was probably the sort of buoy that the company needed at the time. A part of it was also Nomura talking with another dev, and they both crunched the numbers and realised that if they wanted to go for the remake, they had to start right then and there. Because by the time the last Remake game comes out, a lot of people involved with the original Final Fantasy 7 are going to be reaching retirement age. Personally, I would like for there to be a changing of the guard where people like Nomura and Kitase step down and new blood like Yoshi-P step up, and they build a new phase of Final Fantasy off of the bones of FF14, the 7 Remake project and XVI. But with Rebirth not selling as well as it needed to, I'm concerned that Square Enix is in a lot more trouble than they're letting on. 7R, as a hail mary, is not turning out as well as they had hoped. A large swath of oldschool Final Fantasy figures are about to reach retirement age. I have no idea how successful the XIII games were, but they drove a wedge in the fanbase that seems to have affected their later games; XV had a troubled production and didn't do gangbusters due to its confusing multimedia approach, and XVI as a console exclusive didn't sell the kind of numbers that Square Enix wanted. So being a massive pessimist, here's what I think. I think Final Fantasy 7 Remake part 3 could end up being the last Final Fantasy game. The money has been allocated, the team has been retained, they're making that game without question. Beyond that, it would come down to how well Part 3 sells, as well as how it works out for the Remake project as a whole because the final game coming out means there's gonna be a bunch of people playing the first two. If Part 3 doesn't sell well, and the buoyed sales of the first two installments don't do well, I could see the company either downsizing even more than they're doing now or even going under. In that scenario, I think Kingdom Hearts 4 could end up being the last KH game. Whether Nomura retires or Square Enix goes down the toilet, I don't think they could make a hypothetical KH5 to wrap the whole thing up. Again, this is all just inflated hearsay from some stranger on the internet. But that's what I think based on what I've heard over the years.
I mean we are about to be 6 years later kh4 is still nowhere to be found. They told us they wouldn't do this again, and Nomura, a we know, already had his time split with the ff7r series. Disney is in a much worse state as well.
Trust me, once we get another trailer for kingdom hearts 4, they promotion and marketing for it will be crazy from the year up to release. A very similar situation to KH3. Mark my words!
I will be 100%. I was expecting KH to have some promotion this year. But it is smart to always make changes when things are not too good. We do need to EXPERIMENT to see what suits better. When I heard that we got a new President i was actually happy. Especially somebody younger. Fresh mind and perhaps more modern Business discussions. I have been patiently waiting for KH and I still am. ML is something im a little worried. But with plans to make changes and prioritize how they spend their money is more important. This is a smart move. I believe SE will start to prosper starting in the next couple years. But investors are going to be what gets SE going. And then the audience. They need to expose to the investors on what we want.
SE has lost a lot of money, lost fans trust, low moral at the offices, and keeps doing bad decisions. I hope they can start a redemption arc. This year at least Star Ocean, Visions of Mana, Saga, and Fantasian are there best games so far. I would be down for them making their own show case.
@Star-eg3qt I meant who knows when it’s gonna release, and I do care about it. I just hope it’s gonna release sometime this upcoming year… my shot is probably March.
I’ve been sorta concerned about the company for a while now and I feel like they’re chasing former glory. They can NOT figure out when the hell to announce things. Credit where it’s due, XVI’s release schedule was handled really well even though the game itself was very disappointing to me. Thats the only time they’ve announced and then released in a timely manner. Wtf they’re doing now though I haven’t the foggiest, but I feel it doesn’t look good. I want a XIII remake sooooo bad and I’d love to know more about the IX remake too! I wish they’d quit chasing stupid trends like nfts and just produce some good fucking games in a timely manner!!!
Instead of saying “I told you so”, I will just repeat this. 2025 will be a dry year too since Missing Link has no release window now, and KH4 is a mystery. With the talks of a direction change, I assume KH4 and Missing Link are being completely overhauled. Until they show something, I do not believe these games are coming out. 2025 will be another year of nothing, 2026 is the soonest to expect a Missing Link update, and 2028 is the soonest to expect a KH4 release
@ I’m keeping my hopes below ground because I’m used to being disappointed. I may as well just expect nothing and move on to other games, and maybe one day I will be surprised
Squenix should realise that they have lost the mass market. They have a hardcore audience for Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest, and Final Fantasy but it's not large enough to make a healthy profit. The rest of the audience doesn't care.
My guess their games will be announced along side switch 2. Honestly , i don't know if the switch 2 will save them alone but we will see. Switch is great and all but jrpgs sell well on other platforms outside Japan. Switch would help for Jp game sales I guess.
00:16 Square’s radio silence turns Jared into a teapot.
Honestly, these are good changes. Going multiplatform and getting away from NFTs were things that needed to happen.
Definitely. Platform exclusives need to go the way of the dodo. Nobody wants to buy a whole $600+ console just for one game anymore.
You are subjectively correct. Their are still people who would still buy a pricey console for just 1 exclusive game; Take nintendo for example. The difference is that they mostly make their consoles the most affordable which helps with their exclusive & profit
@@BrownieEXE This is true, but I think Nintendo is able to do this precisely because their consoles are not only more affordable, but often include innovations where the appeal is new modes of gameplay that other consoles are unable to replicate. For example, the dual-screen nature of the DS and 3DS, the motion controls on the Wii, or the home-console-and-portable-device-in-one Switch. When you have all that going for you, the console itself is more of a selling point. (I do still really wish Nintendo would do PC releases, even if they had to make their own in-house launchpad for it.)
All it's missing is to localize DQM2 SP and we're golden.
I feel like they planned to show KH4 after Missing Link, but then Missing Link got delayed and they figured they'd hold off on both
Exactly. There could be spoilers of Missing Link in KH4
I’m worried Disney is sabotaging them
@@ironrex6979 I mean, I think the issue is, though "popular", Kingdom Hearts is also a pile of extra convoluted nonsense that, almost certainly, embarrasses and confounds the Disney execs and creatives. "How the heck is this a series? How is it still alive?"
@ nah people love that. More practical and realistic is Disney killing it. Only realistic reason for Nomura wanting to retire and being disappointed by the change of plans. Disney also ruined parts of KH3 too.
@@ironrex6979 Why would they? Kingdom Hearts is Disney's ip. Disney has rights to Sora.
Don’t worry. Knowing Nomura, we’ll get news on the 13th month of this year.
Guys… in 20 days we will reach 1000days since the Announcement of KH4😭😭😭
Damn, time flies...
😭😭
Welcome to the club. Silksong is on day 1429 now 😭 why do so many incredible games have to be radio silent?
Dang. 😢
SMT V was announced like 5-7 years before we ever got a preview, so sadly that’s to be expected with franchises
I don’t think we’ll hear anything about 4 at all until after Missing Link has been released.
maybe kingdom hearts 4 is cancelled?
something to think about :)
@ That would be a critically big mistake on their part. It’s one of their flagship franchises. But I do truly believe there is a possibility that KH4 might be going through some huge conceptual changes compared to what it was originally going to be.
@@gamer4ever838nope it’s not but I believe it’s coming out in 2027 and even that year could e too early because I believe also that Missing Link would take a few years for story telling at least 2 years of story before KH4
@@Mew_Stor We literally had story updates for Union X both during and after the release of KH3, with it finally ending a whole two years later. They are NOT waiting for Missing-Link's story to wrap up in its entirety before releasing KH4, you're nuts.
Missing Link is definitely intended to be a major part of the cycle leading up into KH4, so I definitely don’t see us getting any KH4 news until ML is out. Once ML is out I think we’ll start seeing more.
SE is straight up strangling the KH series at this point I swear to god
The Kingdom Hearts situation is crazy...
I’m gonna be honest, so far this has felt worse than the KH3 news cycle. At least back then we had other side releases to keep us occupied, now we can’t even get our dumb mobile game distraction. 💀
I was so confident at the beginning of the year I was so confident that we would get some type of news regarding KH4. I’m clowning so hard right now
Calm down child
I remember back in 2022, I was optimistic and confident that KH4 would RELEASE in 2025. At this point, I'm not sure if marketing is even gonna be in 2025.
How/why would you even think we'd get a release in 2025, especially given how long KH3 took to release?
@@RizzyGyattLots of people running on hopes and dreams I guess 🤣
00:12 that KH sound effect was perfectly used
Like no KH4 News whatsoever since the Tweet
Missing Link is missing I guess 😭
No, just delayed.
@@FrostDJakki3529 queenie may I introduce you to the concept of "jokes"
We should be worried!
Dark times for KH fans
Delusional
@@rosies69It's really not. This is getting really ridiculous now
It is honestly shocking how SE has nothing to offer. What are they doing.
I’m just going to remain hopeful and focus on different media for now. Constantly watching for KH4 when Missing Link is currently delayed - I think Nomura has mentioned that ML is a necessary piece to KH4’s puzzle, so with ML delayed, it’s going to be a while - I’m afraid I will burn myself out on the series, without having done a full replay of it😅
I told yall we were not going to get any information this year. Horrible practice by Square.
The fact that a mobile game prompted a closed beta and it never came speaks volumes. KH department in shambles
think the anti-mobile snapping and closure to a bunch of sqaure mobile games conflicted with it, there are probably only so few of them still active now
You know what I find it really insane? Valve releasing 2 anniversary documentary for HL1 and HL2 in 2 years with serious real leaks of a HL3 being in development, all that while Square has been silenced on both KH4 and Missing-Link, I start to feel like Square is turning into the new Valve in regarding of Kingdom Hearts
nah its coming out soon chill out unlike Half life 3 that game is never coming.
I had to look this up. Half life one came out in 1998. Half life 2 in 2004. KH came out in 2002. Chain of memories came out in 2004... So that's a GBA game, a remake of the GBA game, Days, unchained to union, KH 2, birth by sleep, 3D, recorded the final mixes, 2.8, KH3 and dark road... All before Half life 3.... Yeah.... I think we're fine
@@phantombigboss8429 I was making a joke about the silence on KH and how we have more stuff out of Valve. Besides I am not joking about HL3, the codes found through dataminding 100% con firm a new HL game is in development, regardless fi it is a HL3 or HLx, something is for real being worked on now, even Gave hinted at it at the end of 2 hours documentary video.
@ until the game comes out it’s not happening.
@@greenth-mac2550 your joke was flat because Kingdom Hearts released more games between Half life 2 and Half life Alyx. So I don’t get it at all. It took more than ten years for Kingdom hearts 3 to come out. I’m sure KH4 will come out when it’s ready. Also Half life 3 is the one late to the party here. Almost every game I waited for years came out first than Half life 3.
hopefully no big development issues since no one is really talking ab that
Its okay next year when the Switch 2 drops Square will release native KH ports for it and then the year after we get KH 4
Numora wants to retire but then again he might decide I don’t want to retire
Might pull a miyazaki from ghibli and unretire like 5 times
Nomura is such an exacting creative that I can’t help but think he’s going to be a “Hayao Miyazaki” type: go into “retirement” and then actually just keep working on creative projects because he can’t help himself
I got sick of waiting so I’ve spent the last 9 months on unreal engine making my own game influenced by Kingdom hearts, Bloodborne, Spyro, ratchet & Clank and final fantasy 10.
I’ll have a trailer out for the demo before the next one for KH4 😂 can’t take anymore waiting!
Didn't expect to see Spyro in that sentence! It's like a forgotten series at this point. Good luck on your game!
Worst case scenario KH4 will have the versus XIII curse.
I'm just kidding. I'm slightly worried about KH4 but I have hope.
I hope Square improves both communication and development workflow during this "Reboot" phase
Its not strange. this has been textbook Square Enix for almost 20 years now.
-unreasonably Long release times
-absolute silence on their progress over years and years
-releasing unfinished game with the finished part as DLC
-development disasters resulting in devastation
-The current fan base fighting tooth-and-nail to defend every bad decision they make.
The fact that Square is going through development issues and delaying a *mobile game* of all things is the final nail in the coffin for me.
I miss the days of FF6-X where they were pumping out an amazing game almost once a year. full of content and amazing stories. Ever since Squaresoft merged with Square Enix, they haven't been the same. Their side projects like Octopath Traveller and Triangle Strategy get more love and attention than the games that are the face of their company like FF and KH.
It is what it is. Ive accepted it long ago. I just hope this new busineess strategy is a good move. I think no longer making exclusives is a step in the right direction
yea keep making up stuff.
@@phantombigboss8429wdym? He hit the nail on the head.
@@temp-td2uk in your imagination.
"Unfinished game with finished dlc" look like you are broke and crying like a baby. Get a job!!!😂😂😂😂
@@rosies69What a weird thing to say
I do hope that we get some news about Square's plans relatively soon after the new year starts. They have been awfully quiet and it is getting somewhat concerning. Though I still don't get what Square is doing at Jump Festa, other than having a Dragon Quest Booth and giving away merch. I know that in the past Square showed trailers there (like for KH3). I also know they have their manga publishing stuff too, but there's no info anywhere about what they're showing there this time, except for that DQ Booth. Does anybody know more about their part at Jump Festa?
I still don't understand how a mobile game takes 2+ years to be finished and released. Wtf is going on at SE?
The same shit that has been going on there in the last 10+ years
It is so far from quality when you compare it to the mobile games that just get churned out of china
I presume they realized that they were already falling behind on modern standards for mobile gaming
I was playing Infinity Nikki on my phone and it is boasting some really impressive fidelity
Who tf playing this shitty mobile games?😖
These mobile games distract developers so much from making the big games it's so sad.
@ well everyone has a phone so that’s just the way it goes
Kingdom Hearts 4 is not going to come out in 2035, I predict.
There's still a lot of social media activity on the square enix Twitter page, being very interactive with fans so I know they're probably cooking with that info too
hi TheGamersJoint
I have always felt like we would get some information around Christmas time of 2024 at the earliest and that we would get more in 2025 with a release around the end of the year. Either way w eat least we know we will be getting a finished project instead of a work in progress.
I'm putting my bets on us getting info on missing link in March and kh4 info in the summer. It would make the most sense promotion wise. Kh has a history of showing stuff around then so that's where I'm placing my bet
I’m honestly keeping my expectations for KH4 low. It’s painful when they tease a new trailer for KH then we hear nothing about it for a long time.
I think we'll see Indiana Jones in KH IV
That would be sick.
honestly, wouldn’t mind that.
Eww 😂
Okay that would kind of rock ngl
I completely agree that it makes sense for them to start doing their own Nintendo Direct-esque streams. Lower cost and freedom to reveal information when its available and within reasonable release periods of said game being revealed.
But Square has had alot a failures in recent years. KH3 was probably its best and highest grossing release recently, and thats to a niche audience. Wasted money on cancelled projects, which how many of those i dont think we will ever know, and then rereleasing old and already released/remastered IP when it doesnt make sense to.
Personally, i have enjoyed their silence because i hope that means that they are ready to give a MAJOR upgrade in quality of release, and the polish on that release. Hopefully they start getting on track, because otherwise its looking like they will either be forced into a position of shutting down or being acquired. Latter case being the best remaining option.
Yeah I thought we were going to see at least one new game announcement from them that is not KH4. None the less, I can wait and super happy with the reveals we did get especially with classic capcom series returning and Clive in Tekken.
There was also the Super Mario RPG remake that was released this year.
I hope Nomura’s health is okay. That is what I’m starting to worry most about with his lack of interviews and appearances.
I think it’s good for there to be no constant news. I don’t think people want another situation with KH3 where we heard about it so often we were spoiled on a lot.
But I do think an update or something from Nomura would be nice.
Plus, I doubt we will see anything about 4 until Missing Link drops.
Even though I’m annoyed about the fact that will still don’t have any news I’m busying myself with other things so I don’t go insane. I love Kingdom Hearts but but I will definitely be focusing on my other interests until we have news, I recommend the wider fandom does the same as it’s seriously not healthy to completely tie yourself to something no matter how much it means to you
This is just normal experience for kh players lol. I wouldn't be alarmed. 🙃
It’s different this time around something’s off :/ trust me I’ve been around for the entireeee ride
i refuse to do or believe anything till i see something from square, we are about to hit the 3 year mark, and im bummed out lol
Ok, but like, has your source got things right in anything in the past?
Or is it newish and more of a “have faith” kinda deal?
It is pretty insane that we haven't gotten ANY updates on KH4 since the reveal.
I don't think this is gonna be a KH3 situation, but I'm starting to think we might not get the game until after FF7R3 (which is likely a 2027 game)
I'm hoping we get some news in 2025, but if the dry spell continues....
The industry has a problem with announcing these games too early and leading to these long droughts without any news.
I'm adamant that games should not be announced more than 2 years out from release and developers should be able to have a consistent roll out of updates, trailers, and interviews during that time then we wouldn't run into these issues.
It almost feels like they accidentally announced KH4 and forgot they ever did that
I'm sure they're cooking behind the scenes. Probably trying to figure out what to remaster next. Or they may try and create new ip that will have a better chance of landing. I think they're starting to learn not to make premature announcements
It hurts to hear that ff16 "didn't meet sale expectations", it's one of my all time favorite games and square really needed to temper their expectations for a Playstation exclusive, if they don't wisen up now they'll be facing the same crisis they faced when they made final fantasy
I think it's reasonable to expect a number of titles boiling under the surface, I'm anticipating a number of titles being announced nexxt year
DQ 12 still coming soon i think....
im telling yall,KH4 wont be out til 2026. Nomura LOVES the numbers 7 and 13. 2019 was when KH3 came out,7yrs later will be 2026. in fact,we have gotten a major KH Sequel every 7yrs so far , since KH2. KH3D came out 7yrs after 2,and KH3 came out 7yrs after 3D.
2026 is my bet too for the exact same reason. Nomura loves his numerology lol
Their expectations have been way too high. They made crazy profit and still said it fell short for so many of their games
I don't have many gaming franchises I'm into, but I'm glad I'm not obsessed with KH to the point of getting more and more impatient as the years go by and we get no news.
I just hope and pray that we'll see new TWEWY content. Unfortunately, Neo was given a shoestring budget and apparently was meant to sell as good as FF7R and their Marvel tie-in game? I think they just don't know how to manage expectations and are expecting exponential growth
2026 would not surprise me
I definitely prefer this to KH3's development cycle, where we kept getting trailers but the game just never seemed to come out for years. I'll take silence over that any year of the century.
KH Fans: “We haven’t heard about KH4 since 2022!”
Okami fans: “I don’t wanna hear it! Let us have this one!”
So like I said before Square hit a roadblock that threw them off this year and it required them to make changes. Likely being the reason they’ve remained quiet. Now I do not agree with not communicating that to us if that is the case and I hope the high up execs are getting chewed out for their stupid choices that caused the roadblock to start with.
Looks like it'll be till 2026 for KH4 and part 3 of FF7 in 2027.
0:16 okay someone needs to edit this bit by turning Jared's face red and making steam come out of his is ears! xD
Hopefully 2025 will give us something to look forward too!
I remember when we thought KH3’s assets and newfound engine expertise would future proof development time and somehow we’re in a bigger drought. I think they went a little too hard on KH3 marketing so it’s not so much that I need a trailer as I wonder why they even announced it.
I always thought KH was going to be put on the backburner until after the FF7 trilogy finished so I'm not particularly worried.
Square enix going through a personal “remake” and will reemerge through a new “rebirth” of games Awwwwww I see the vision
Noo square WHAT IS IT NOW 😭
It would be a massive fail if Square is doing their own showcase instead of TGA. TGA has substantially more viewership
It's probably going to be another 358x2 days before we here more information 😭
Can't wait for our third New Year's letter from Square about them doubling down on NFTs
Firing the whole mana team was pretty wrong imo on their restructuring
I didn't know that Square Enix changed leadership. That might be a step in the right direction, because for the past three years or so the president of Square Enix has been putting out these end-of-year letters reflecting on the year and stating goals for the next year of the company, and they've all mentioned NFTs and crypto. I'm hoping that with a new president who's wiped out a glut of development projects, he's also put the kibosh on any crypto-related projects. Talk about a waste of time and money.
On the other hand, I remember there being talk back in the day about how Square were holding off on a fully fledged Final Fantasy 7 remake unless they needed an absolute hail mary. This is just hearsay in the gaming space so I could be all wrong, but the Remake announcement came off the heels of Final Fantasy XV - itself a game with a troubled development cycle and not the best sales - and the divisive FFXIII trilogy. FF14 was in there too, both the original release and A Realm Reborn, but from XIII onwards I feel like the flagship Final Fantasy brand has been in trouble. Final Fantasy 7 Remake came at a point where the brand was in a very shaky position, and it was probably the sort of buoy that the company needed at the time.
A part of it was also Nomura talking with another dev, and they both crunched the numbers and realised that if they wanted to go for the remake, they had to start right then and there. Because by the time the last Remake game comes out, a lot of people involved with the original Final Fantasy 7 are going to be reaching retirement age.
Personally, I would like for there to be a changing of the guard where people like Nomura and Kitase step down and new blood like Yoshi-P step up, and they build a new phase of Final Fantasy off of the bones of FF14, the 7 Remake project and XVI. But with Rebirth not selling as well as it needed to, I'm concerned that Square Enix is in a lot more trouble than they're letting on. 7R, as a hail mary, is not turning out as well as they had hoped. A large swath of oldschool Final Fantasy figures are about to reach retirement age. I have no idea how successful the XIII games were, but they drove a wedge in the fanbase that seems to have affected their later games; XV had a troubled production and didn't do gangbusters due to its confusing multimedia approach, and XVI as a console exclusive didn't sell the kind of numbers that Square Enix wanted.
So being a massive pessimist, here's what I think.
I think Final Fantasy 7 Remake part 3 could end up being the last Final Fantasy game. The money has been allocated, the team has been retained, they're making that game without question. Beyond that, it would come down to how well Part 3 sells, as well as how it works out for the Remake project as a whole because the final game coming out means there's gonna be a bunch of people playing the first two. If Part 3 doesn't sell well, and the buoyed sales of the first two installments don't do well, I could see the company either downsizing even more than they're doing now or even going under.
In that scenario, I think Kingdom Hearts 4 could end up being the last KH game. Whether Nomura retires or Square Enix goes down the toilet, I don't think they could make a hypothetical KH5 to wrap the whole thing up.
Again, this is all just inflated hearsay from some stranger on the internet. But that's what I think based on what I've heard over the years.
Hey, ff7r got an award. i guess that's something....
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If kingdom hearts is getting cancelled I’m becoming the master of masters myself
I mean we are about to be 6 years later kh4 is still nowhere to be found. They told us they wouldn't do this again, and Nomura, a we know, already had his time split with the ff7r series. Disney is in a much worse state as well.
Kingdom Hearts 4 in 2027/2028
I don't even hope in 2025 at this point
February huh, Cynical out here giving me hope to expect anything yoko taro (Non mobile slop )and KH4 in the same event. That would be insane.
Trust me, once we get another trailer for kingdom hearts 4, they promotion and marketing for it will be crazy from the year up to release. A very similar situation to KH3. Mark my words!
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
I will be 100%. I was expecting KH to have some promotion this year. But it is smart to always make changes when things are not too good. We do need to EXPERIMENT to see what suits better. When I heard that we got a new President i was actually happy. Especially somebody younger. Fresh mind and perhaps more modern Business discussions. I have been patiently waiting for KH and I still am. ML is something im a little worried. But with plans to make changes and prioritize how they spend their money is more important. This is a smart move. I believe SE will start to prosper starting in the next couple years. But investors are going to be what gets SE going. And then the audience. They need to expose to the investors on what we want.
IF it comes out, KH4 is not coming out until Q4 of 2026if not early 2027 and "Missing Link" MAYBE spring or summer 2025... Mark my words... 😤
SE has lost a lot of money, lost fans trust, low moral at the offices, and keeps doing bad decisions. I hope they can start a redemption arc. This year at least Star Ocean, Visions of Mana, Saga, and Fantasian are there best games so far. I would be down for them making their own show case.
When is missing link coming out ?!
@Star-eg3qt who even knows at this point?
@ who cares?! What I’m hearing now is that it’ll be here next spring but it might as well be next summer
@Star-eg3qt I meant who knows when it’s gonna release, and I do care about it. I just hope it’s gonna release sometime this upcoming year… my shot is probably March.
@ everyone says it’s going to be next year
@Star-eg3qt maybe it will… maybe it won’t. Atleast try to have some hope!
Hey, Disney! I know what you can do with all of that Inside Out 2, Deadpool & Wolverine, and Moana 2 money.
I’m so worried we won’t get kh4, it just looks too cool and too good to be true
so whats worse, this or like 2014? I genuinely feel my soul slowly dying after this year
What about kingdom hearts 4?!
i feel like this wait for kh4 feels longer somehow
I don't think we will have a good gaming year until 2027.
I’ve been sorta concerned about the company for a while now and I feel like they’re chasing former glory. They can NOT figure out when the hell to announce things. Credit where it’s due, XVI’s release schedule was handled really well even though the game itself was very disappointing to me. Thats the only time they’ve announced and then released in a timely manner. Wtf they’re doing now though I haven’t the foggiest, but I feel it doesn’t look good. I want a XIII remake sooooo bad and I’d love to know more about the IX remake too! I wish they’d quit chasing stupid trends like nfts and just produce some good fucking games in a timely manner!!!
The other thing is we dont have mel mem on steam yet! I can see that coming before KH4
Its a joke square says there sales falling short its their expectations thats are too high maybe they need to be more realistic
for now, plan in 10 years for any sequel
I’m calling it it’s gonna be like kh3 being like 13 -14 years
If they released another kh game maybe they will make some damn money.. just gimmie kh4 man alskjdalsjdlakjs
Seems they are planning to announce new games up until the switch 2 is announced.
Instead of saying “I told you so”, I will just repeat this.
2025 will be a dry year too since Missing Link has no release window now, and KH4 is a mystery. With the talks of a direction change, I assume KH4 and Missing Link are being completely overhauled.
Until they show something, I do not believe these games are coming out. 2025 will be another year of nothing, 2026 is the soonest to expect a Missing Link update, and 2028 is the soonest to expect a KH4 release
Dang, aren't we pessimistic (No, this is not realistic).
@ I’m keeping my hopes below ground because I’m used to being disappointed. I may as well just expect nothing and move on to other games, and maybe one day I will be surprised
Squenix should realise that they have lost the mass market. They have a hardcore audience for Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest, and Final Fantasy but it's not large enough to make a healthy profit. The rest of the audience doesn't care.
empiezo a sospechar que ese trailer era falso
If square put all their resources into KH4 they’d see a ROI asap! 💸💸
Square enix is either going bankrupt, or they are doing major major restructuring.
My guess their games will be announced along side switch 2. Honestly , i don't know if the switch 2 will save them alone but we will see. Switch is great and all but jrpgs sell well on other platforms outside Japan. Switch would help for Jp game sales I guess.