Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 Correct me if I'm wrong, but where in the standards for Ryder Cup qualifications does it state that the players are playing for their legacy as well as their country? That's something you're postulating here and it's simply an associated philosophical concept that's unsubstantiated. The PGA Tour tournament sponsors do a collective 40 billion worth of business with the KSA, should any sponsor who does business with the KSA also be cancelled? The LPGA Tour is sponsored by the KSA also; without that sponsorship, there would be no LPGA Tour. Let's let the best of the USA and the best of Europe play no matter what Tour pedigree any individual golfer may have. After all, it's not the PGAT versus the DP Tour and PGAT membership is not a prerequisite for the Ryder Cup team, it's the USA versus Europe, politics be damned.
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
Hey Brandel, Euro players playing on the US tour play for the Euros in Ryder Cup. They are playing for their country not for the tour they are playing on.! Faxon is correct The best players should play representing their country
Rahm, McIlroy, Hovland all played more tournaments on the PGA Tour than the European Tour last year. So they are playing where the money is and not representing their tour. Yes they are representing their countries though so it's no different than Koepka playing on another tour chasing the money.
Here we have exactly the problem : all this guy's play on PGA tour because for a win in Europe they get 1) less money 2) nearly zero world ranking points and 3) less money for a start in that tournament. Yes, the stars on PGA tour also have money enough therefore that they start, but not official as LIV it does, they get other learnings round golf.... The politics of PGA tour "America and we first" ruins the dp world tour, they become another Korn Ferry tour. But LIV gives otherwise tours the chance to get free with their money. To get top players in Asia, top events on other tours and so on. I hope the European players, the DP world tour goes more with LIV than with the PGA tour, it would help in coming back as a strong competitive tour again.
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 you are a hypocrite, picking and choosing what is outrage and isnt how pathetic. The players didn't tarnish their legaicies cause you said so...clown!
I'm sorry brandel. Those others that didn't take the money, as you say, weren't necessarily offered "the money". That's the way competition works Brandel. So, you aren't negotiating for something you were never offered, nes pa? What you are suggesting is that golf needs all the players "permission" to start a different tour and compete? huh? OR We could talk about reality. The PGA TOur Execs and their co-sponsors thought they didn't have to compete for the players wages through MONOPOLY. Support the players, if that's what you really are thinking you are doing, by not supporting corporations monopolist negotiating tactics. If OWGR were actually "rankings" it wouldn't matter who sponsored the tour. The best players would be at the top and the money events would follow the best players. You see what I am getting at? What the PGA Tour did? It wasn't competition brandel, it was monopoly violence against negotiating for more money.
and you are part of the monopoly Brandel. You are no friend to golf, golfers, or golf professionals. Just a fool hanger on to something you clearly do NOT understand.
@@williamwallace3931 Wow, I thought Jay Monahan simply looked under the cushions of his luxurious office sofa and found a few hundred million dollars there and he added these to the PGAT purses. Isn't that amazing?
@Diogenes 9561 Any commissioner would have been hamstrung competing against an organization with unlimited funding and no eye on a “bottom line”. What would you have done as the commissioner of the PGA?!? Just sitting here in my abject loneliness waiting for your answer🥹
@Diogenes 9561 Viewership has been down since LIV came to fruition. Golf fans are losing interest!!! Sunday’s final round of the PGA Championship on CBS drew 4.517 million viewers, the lowest total in 15 years on a final day. We shouldn’t underestimate the undermining effect LIV’s has had on the sport. Overall competition has been watered-down on both side of the fence and the changes PGA was forced to do because of LIV in an effort to keep players has degraded PGA’s own product. No cuts and exhibition golf and now it’s all about money, exorbitant amounts of money directed towards players who were overprivileged in the first place which wedges itself in between regular fans and the pro golfers. Such a shame and all of that because of a few bad apples who couldn’t resist the money grab because of character issues.
@@williamwallace3931 What would I have done as the PGA Commissioner? When LIV began and the chosen golfers left, I would have bid them farewell and wished them success in their new Tour. This would have prevented a Public Relations meltdown and given the LIV very little publicity. As the old saying goes, "There is no such thing as bad publicity." I would have not attacked the LIV as this makes headlines and I would not have recruited that little HS dropout Rory and then Tiger to start a negative publicity campaign. I would have made the PGAT a bastion of principle above the fray and made it policy for PGAT players like Rory, Tiger, Horschel, and Zalatoris - and, the motormouth Golf Channel talking heads - to keep their yaps shut and not say anything controversial and negative about the LIV. The LIV would then have been an object of curiosity and little else here and may have been motivated to take most of its tournaments to Australia, New Zealand, Indonesia, Thailand, and South Africa where the PGAT is not present. I would also have assisted the DP World Tour financially to help them keep their tour competitive instead of giving the top 10 PGAT cards and diluting their product. Oh, and I would have also invited any LIV players who were disenchanted with LIV to be welcomed back to the PGAT with no penalty and, maybe, just an apology for making a mistake. Then, I would have increased the purses and done what needed to be done to make peace and avoid controversy. And after a time, i would have discreetly reached out to Greg Norman and seen what could be done to achieve a lasting peace between the PGAT and the LIV. So, are you not lonely waiting for my answer now? 😄
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 Notice how nobody had a problem with Saudi Arabia until LIV came along. We have been buying thier oil, and selling them weapons ...you never had a problem with that, did you. Saudi Arabia is an official ally of the United States. So don't let the PGA Tour brain wash you that they are anything else.
Amazing, Brad Faxon had the honesty and the cojones to stand up to the standard Golf Channel company anti-LIV theme and shoot down that insufferable douche nozzle Brandel Chamblee and state what the majority of the golf fans think. Brandel still thinks that anyone who went to the LIV committed the moral equivalent of treason and should be executed (cancelled). The PGA Tour monopoly is going away and it's time for all reporters for the game of golf to recognize that fact. Kudos to Brad Faxon!!!
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 These kids aren’t concerned about golf legacy. They want to get paid for being the best in the world. The PGA should have let those purse strings lose years ago…
@@williamwallace3931 Well after the whole "virus of unknown origin thing" tyrant is not really a word that we should be throwing around with abandon given most governments responses to it coupled with the true power behind the thrones of "democracies" being faceless corporations who say nice things but whose ethics are almost non existent. We are not really in that great a position to be holding the moral high ground. The only real difference between the 2 sides is one has better PR. Get over your simplistic idea of the world otherwise people will think the clown emoji at the end of your statement was just to describe yourself. Wait.......Brandel, is that you?
What a perfect quote from Faxon “they’re not playing for their tour, they’re playing for their country” The awkward silence in response from Chamblee says it all
"Playing for their country, he's an American" what a great quote from Fax. The men and women in the military all join various different regiments etc, but when it comes to representing their country, they are shoulder to shoulder....
They're playing for all kinds of different reasons . . . and, "for their country" may, or may not, be one of them. Chamblee's point that the European team is playing not for a country, but for their tour (or status of their tour), is a good one. Of course, both statements---Chamblee's and Faxon's---can both be true. US Ryder Cup teams are made up of 1/2 point rankings, from Tour play, and 1/2 captains picks. In any "team" competition, cohesiveness, closeness and respect for teammates is often a very critical factor . . . as has been reflected in a lot the selections we've seen captain's make. I think those decisions need to be the captain's decisions. If he wants to pick an American LIV player or Korn Ferry player or LPGA player, he should be allowed to do so. If he doesn't, for whatever reason, he shouldn't.
You need to look no further than the FedEx cup. Saudi Arabia is one of their largest partners/customers and Fedex does billions of dollars of business there every year.
The Ryder cup always has been and should be the best players from America vs the best players in Europe, regardless of where they come from or who they are. Politics aside, it’s about playing for your country and representing it to the best of your ability!
Exactly...put the best players in the country out there...period...give yourself the best chance to win and stop getting political... This is why the mlb hall of fame has become a joke...
@@stevewiley8409 Well....not even that. it was originally just Great Britain, then Northern Ireland players joined in 1947, then Ireland in 1953, and then Europe in 1979. if the idiotic DP "World" Tour prevents the best players from competing, it may have to become Great Britain, Ireland, Europe and the Rest of the World vs USA!
No it's not. Thats why there are captains picks, that don't just go to the highest ranking players at the time of the tournament: insert Scottie Scheffler circa 2021. And European Ryder Cup teams come specifically from DP World Tour members, while US teams do not have to come from the PGA Tour.
bc there is a majority nutjob americans like brandel who think leaving the sacred and wholesome PGA tour to join a new upstart league funded by people who did 9/11 or "saudi blood money" little do they know the saudis have investments in the PGA as well, including the primary sponsor FedEX. does it make sense? no but dimwitted people want to project their political views to anyone who has ears or says anything bad about the wholesome traditional white bred American PGA. LIV is trying to globalize the game of golf more than the PGA has. most of the PGA players play in the Saudi Int'l tournament each year on the Asian Tour anyhow. what in'tl stops does the PGA have besides the nice carribean resorts, canada, japan, and scotland?
It just the PGA trying to put their values above any player’s. They own your rights. They decide how much you’ll make off your likeness. They’ll give you a bonus if you make yourself more popular and effectively make them more money. How dare you try to make more in another league! You’re banned! You can never come into this treehouse again!
@@williamwallace3931lol dude are you Chamblee in disguise copy and pasting your crap everywhere. PGA sponsors hold business in Saudi as well. Ever heard of Fedex or BMW lol get rid of those tournies too since you're all high and mighty
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 Do you want to repeat your comment anymore? You really need to get educated on this subject before commenting. You are allowed to have a personal opinion on liking LIV or not but sprouting crap without actually doing research is making you look stupid.
Brandel is a fool. How come the PGA purses didn’t increase until LIV? The money just magically appeared? The PGA players should thank the guys who had the balls to go to LIV. Best 12 should make the Ryder Cup… regardless of tour.
@@williamwallace3931 this destroys the media narrative that the guys who went to LIV weren’t any good and all washed up. Total BS. The money has always been there. It took 17 guys leaving for the monopoly to finally pay up. The 12 best players should represent the US in the Ryder Cup. US Soccer is associated with MLS….do they ban guys who leave and play in other leagues from representing the US at the World Cup? No, they don’t.
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 Brad did finish his thought. He exposed Brandel for the ass he is. Then Brad eloquently stated they are playing Golf. Last time I checked the Ryder Cup had been around before the PGA Tour, the PGA Tour is not USA and it is not Golf; it is a $100 Million Dollar profitable corporation that should not be tax exempt.
LIV vs pga is getting old…it is what it is….accept it and move on. Everyone is better off. I bet one day Phil would do a tell-all Netflix series on pga secrets.
How can anyone take Chanblee seriously at this point? 😂 he made a fool of himself talking about how LIV players are has beens and that they play against a weak field 😂
@@williamwallace3931 1000% I can go back and find comments of you saying “they’re all washed up… let them go play over there!” Or “they couldn’t win on the pga so they left…” now it’s “ohhh we knew a handful of them were good.” Don’t you know you’re full of shit. And don’t even think of replying bc you’re just typing a lie. You know deep down you never thought anyone went LIV could compete.
Finally, Faxson has a backbone . It's passed time to give up the insane stance of " blood money " "Saudi backed " BS and OPEN YOUR EYES to the reality of golfers that are the best at their game no matter were they play . It's obviously to a 2 year old . Give it up ! Jim Nanzt also with his swipe at DJ . I don't know how the DP tour gets over it, they fired Stenson ...how can they now let LIV players in without looking like total tools 😮
Well stated, sir. Brad Faxon is the first GC personality to not parrot the PGA Tour company mantra and I want to see more of his candid honesty on the Golf Channel.
If anyone ever brings up the blood money, point them to the FedEx cup. FedEx does billions of dollars of business with Saudi Arabia every year. I guess Rory should give his check back from last year.
@JJ G The nature of the free market and capitalism works as follows - you are forced (yes forced) to do business with enemy countries as well as friendly to survive the competition. If you take a stand and avoid doing business with certain parties somebody else will exploit this and outgrow you. The reason being sanctions and embargoes under the United Nations system must be imposed ONLY when there is a threat of or actual breach of international peace and security. Whereas being an employee of an enemy country is something you can avoid all together unless you have been invaded. The PGA Tour has 27 sponsors who do $40 billion worth of business in Saudi Arabia on an annual basis but that’s a completely different thing than being owned by the Saudi Arabian government like LIV is or in the case of Aramco which is a Saudi company who is the largest sponsor for the LPGA. Gotta love the false equivalency people use!!! Remember the 40 billion dollars are being spent in Saudi Arabia by sponsors who are NOT Saudi companies but companies who also do business with the rest of the world as well as Saudi Arabia. Selling shaving cream to Saudi citizens or John Deere tractors to farmers in SA is not the same as being a de facto employee of the Saudi Arabian government or the South African. Saudi Arabia’s government is made up of by bad actors, but that does not mean that fed-ex shouldn’t deliver packages within Saudi Arabia. They shouldn’t be barred from receiving goods or services from the western world due to their atrocious leadership. That’s how the free market and capitalism work in a free world! Thanks for listening😅
@JJ G Why people can’t tell the difference between doing business with Saudi Arabia and being an employee of the regime is beyond me!!! Remember you represent those you work for whether you like it or not. The players who have joined LIV are lending their reputations to a monarchical dictator who murder and repress his enemies and desperately wants to gain leverage and acceptance in the free world. Being an employee means they are deciding for you what to do with practically no leeway and you are obligated to represent the employer’ values who gets to define their product, whereas doing business you get to decide terms, liability, and make a series of demands and so forth. Thanks for listening😅
Golf is getting political, and should not be. Like Bradster said “they are playing golf.” As a fan, I want to see the best players in our planet that qualify for Majors, except Patrick Reed and any other cheating MF’s out there!
Brandel should of been terminated when he ripped on the golfers (independent contractors), chose to leave for another golf league, His words, his attitude was , and is despicable
Let's remember that the Golf Channel bills itself as "the official channel of the PGA Tour" and Brandel, Eamon Lynch, and the other talking heads have all sang the same anti-LIV song since the LIV began. IMO, I'd like to see him locked in a room with Brooks Koepka for about 15 minutes so Brooks could administer an "attitude adjustment," if you know what I'm talking about and, I think you do.
@@williamwallace3931 "...a brutal regime with no love for the game of golf is ruining golf." You're speaking, of course, of Commissioner Jay Monahan and the PGA Tour and his brutal and prejudicial opposition to the LIV? Or, were you speaking about the Golf Channel? 😂😂😂
The PGA and Monahan should not have a monopoly on golf but that should be corrected by the free market and capitalism as we know it where profit is THE guiding principle and not by the Saudis where a lack of profit is no concern of theirs which in and of itself is very problematic because of the power that comes with it where you don’t have to be accountable and can be indifferent to the effects you are causing!!! Being admittedly a traditionalist and being appreciative of the rich traditions golf history have to offer where legacy is THE comparative measure in which to decide a golfers succes which means that continuity and golfers sharing the same platforms is paramount!!! This is why many traditionalists feel a a certain betrayal by the players who joined LIV because they are making it impossible to compare and contrast legacies. It’s about the lack of respect and appreciation that bothers me. Remember without spectators and fans these athletes have nothing, no business, zilch, nada, diddly-squat so it goes without saying - it should be a symbiotic relationship between regular golf fans and pro golfers based on mutual respect and understanding that decides what golfers do in their careers. But instead the LIV players has chosen for themselves the cash grab from a very controversial source without any regard for their followers and the sport even though they were VERY well off in the first place and didn’t need to put everything aside because of money concerns. Such a shame on so many levels!!!
@@williamwallace3931 In terms of the free market, one of the major tenets is "freedom for individuals to choose businesses". It should be a "symbiotic relationship between regular golf fans and pro golfers based on mutual respect and understanding that decides what golfers do in their careers". There's a lot to unpack there. Which players in the past did you help decide what to do with their career? LIV picked up 6-8 players that are in their prime, the rest know they aren't competitive as they used to be on the PGA Tour. Professional golf is just fine... actually it's in a better place as a result of the changing landscape, improvements with the PGA Tour, and wave after wave of incredibly talented young players joining each year. Somebody, please hand me a mic, so I can drop it.
US PGA & DP Tour dont own golf and golfers. LIV is now the elite global tour with the best players. Rahm, Rory, Fitz etc play mostly in USA, so they cant represent their country in Ryder Cup? See how twisted PGA Tour Mgmt is. Best to cooperate & co-exists, not monopolistic protectionism. This same nonsense is playing out in West (15% of world population) vs China and rest of the world geopolitics. Peace & cooperation. Love Golf!
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
In 10 years when LIV is the premiere Your, I hope the executives at LIV tell all the biased hate media to stuff it and go back to the PGA feeder tour for LIV GOLF. GO LIV GOLF
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
IMO, a 4 day event PGAT versus LIV would be the Super Bowl of golf. The TV ratings and the revenue the broadcast rights would bring would be tremendous.
That would be great...I'd have to think the tour would win but the liv is by no means weak...brooks, dj, cam, bryson, phil...all recent major winners and all still capable of winning more...I think it would be much closer than people think I'd honestly root for liv just to see brandel lose it
Everybody were smiling but PGA CEO Seth Waugh and Branden Chamblee. Monopoly under attack and their zone of comfort has been compromised. LIV is here to stay and so with electric vehicles. Why afraid of competition and change. Innovate excellence.
It was an interesting point BC made about players taking the LIV money so should not qualify for the Ryder Cup. So, a European player on the DP World Tour goes to America and plays on the PGA tour for the greater rewards, does this mean he should not qualify for the Ryder cup? The tours need to stop fighting and learn to get along.
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@williamwallace39312. Faxon did finish his thought. He said “he’s an American”. Why did you leave out how he actually finished his thought, and substitute yours?
Clearly they are legitimate as much as I hate LIV. They have a slew of major champions and Ryder cup stars. If you are into star power LIV is the best tour. We would dishonor the game, our countries, and the competition if we did not bring our best team.
@@Gays4Trump I, personally, like the LIV but I bear no hatred for the PGAT. But, you have stated the truth about the Ryder Cup and I agree with you 100% on that. Politics be damned, the best players should represent their respective teams and to not do this would dishonor the game. Well stated, sir.
The more I hear Brandel Chamblee talk, the more I want to drill my ears out so I don't have to listen to him talk. The PGA tour guys should be kissing LIV's sphincter right about now, because now they realize the money they SHOULD have been making all along.
"The PGA tour guys should be kissing LIV's sphincter right about now, because now they realize the money they SHOULD have been making all along." Amen, brother, amen!
Brandel is such a windbag. Every player on the PGA Tour should be thanking LIV. The increased purses the Tour pros are enjoying wouldn't have come without LIV. Which only means the Tour has been disingenuous at best.
Imagine the amount of money that would be generated if Liv and the PGA tour actually worked together. Hold a match between the two tours, and everybody wins. Talking about billions of dollars. And the best players deserve to be on the Ryder cup
In the old days the Ryder cup was US tour v British tour and then Euro tour.....maybe a PGAT v LIV tour match could replace the Presidents cup....every two years
Imagine if the DP tour changed tack and went with LIV. DP tour at present is dead and buried, open up it up to LIV players, suck eggs and tell the PGA, where out.
@@1362pc IMO, a Ryder Cup type format tournament of PGAT versus the LIV would be the Super Bowl of golf. The TV audience worldwide would be giant and the broadcast fees and the advertising time on the broadcast would be tremendous. And, best of all, it would be a win/win for each Tour, many $$$s for everyone. Just an afterthought, how about a cage wrestling match of Jay Monahan versus Greg Norman after the tournament? That may be a bigger draw than a heavyweight championship fight.😁
We now need the OWGR to sort out their system and start ranking players properly. Let's face it - the PGA have done zero to take the game to the rest of the world. They want it all to themselves. Post Tiger the game needs money and the Saudis want to bring a load to the party. The game will stagnate if we don't include them.
So you would be fine if the Saudi's started a US Flag Football League and paid Patric Mahomes, Josh Allen and others a 100 million to play? Tell me what the difference is.
Jay Monahan lost this battle when the Majors allowed the LIV players to play. Any leverage he had is gone. If Fred Ridley, (Augusta chairman), had said no....this would have all turned out different. Jay thought he was the big dog, Fred said hold my beer.
Yeah but eventually, unless you're a past winner these LIV players will become obsolete if (as currently) will not gain world ranking points in their "tournaments"
This has been good for golf, rivalry is always good for sports. That's how the Super Bowl came about, because of the upstart AFC. So, there needs to be a "Super Bowl" of golf every year or 2. LiV vs PGA, and it should be a whole new concept, maybe knockout rounds until the final LIV golfer is standing, and the final PGA golfer, then an 18 hole match with their team on their shoulders, that would be big drama!!
I think well done to Brad Faxon for being balanced and logical. Chamblee for someone who is supposed to be a balanced presenter has got himself far too entrenched. It’s the Golf Channel not the PGA channel.
I still don't know how brandle shamblee stays on the air. He is always a negative person back in tiger's day. He was always trying to talk poorly about tiger and his decisions. He is a glass half Empty person, He always has negative things to say about everything. I think brad faxton was a total gentleman and spoke his truth.
Brandel knows he’s wrong and still can’t admit it. I’m not a LIV supporter, but Brooks should be on the team. Brandel is the primary reason I no longer watch pre and post tournament segments on Golf Channel.
Is Ryder Cup just the PGA or just the R&A or the DP Tour... It's not, so LIV makes golf political... Its really ok the USA hasn't really been good in Ryder Cup since 1985 or so... now we can say well its because 3 the worlds best were politically banished even though its Zach's job to recruit the best American team that he can... Would not want to be the American Captain anymore...
Many years ago, George Orwell said, "In times of universal deceit, speaking the truth becomes a revolutionary act." Kudos to Brad Faxon for such a revolutionary act, speaking the truth on the Golf Channel which bills itself as "The official channel of the PGA Tour." I only wonder if Brad will ever be invited back after making Chamblee appear as the village idiot he is. I hope he's back many times as a voice of reason there.
Where in the sweet mashed potatoes did this idea that, the PGA Tour IS GOLF. Oh. A bunch of old traditionalist and elites who want it for their own. In the words of Tim McGraw “things change “ The community is golf. Not the tour. The golf community can keep on living without the tour. The tour cannot keep on leaving without the dark community. When is necessary in one’s not, the last statement also goes through for Brandel Chamblee.
Hi Brandel: Here is my question. the point of the Ryder cup is to beat the Europeans. Are we fielding the best team with Koepka, Johnson and DeChambeau on the sidelines?
Liv is obviously a huge threat to the future of the PGA Tour. But if a guy qualifies for the Ryder Cup he should play. Let them battle that other stuff out in court. Don’t get the players involved. My 2 cents
Branded hates the LIV tour players because they “took the money”. No… they are earning the money. Every Pro player on every Pro tour is earning the money. That’s their job. The Ryder Cup is not a job. Brad has it right… let the best play.
The pga has to put up all this money to fight law suits that come out of the players pockets? What a load of crap. Some how thanks time Phil the pga has all this money to increase prize money that goes into players pockets.
Hopefully Faxon will have some influence with Rory also. Coexist. PGA Tour should allow LIV in Players Match Play event. Also there could be an end of year LIV vs PGA event. Top 8 from each Tour.
PGA are in Court for alleged unlawful acts. My suggestion is Networks & Sponsors act to remove Brandel from his golf public announcement position. Why is Brandel opposed to International Golf and ensuring PGA Executives act within International Business Laws?
Who really wants to see this devolve into PGA vs DP rather than US vs Europe? I understand the spite towards LIV, but it shouldn't undermine the greatest traditions. We know the only thing keeping Europes best playing 2-3 DP events a year is the Ryder cup qualification. Its kind of pathetic that DP considers all the majors as DP events just so it seems like the top players play in more than a couple, but that tour has been absolutely ravaged by the PGA and its only leverage is gatekeeping the Ryder. Its president is a PGA puppet that ensures the feeder tour is operating in the best interests of the PGA.
Just imagine what the DP Tour roster will look like in a few years after the top 10 for each year leave for the PGA Tour and, maybe, a few defect to LIV? They'll need European club pros to fill out a tournament field.
Brad Faxon - Great putting coach and point maker, so good too see. Brandel is a great panelist but his constant smearing of LIV made him unpalatable during the broadcast. Just entertain us with your analysis Brandel and not agendas. Well done Brad Faxon 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
Brandel has a losing argument, PGA Tour made their decision to regards to LIV, and so did PGA, USGA, R&A and Augusta, and the organizations for majors want the best in the world to compete.
it's a winning move for the majors, why would they succumb to the same rules the PGA axed? a LIV guy just won a major and Brandel is now broken, you love to see it
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Brandel left speechless for the first time ever, lol.
Well done Brad!
Awesome!!!!
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 Correct me if I'm wrong, but where in the standards for Ryder Cup qualifications does it state that the players are playing for their legacy as well as their country? That's something you're postulating here and it's simply an associated philosophical concept that's unsubstantiated. The PGA Tour tournament sponsors do a collective 40 billion worth of business with the KSA, should any sponsor who does business with the KSA also be cancelled? The LPGA Tour is sponsored by the KSA also; without that sponsorship, there would be no LPGA Tour. Let's let the best of the USA and the best of Europe play no matter what Tour pedigree any individual golfer may have. After all, it's not the PGAT versus the DP Tour and PGAT membership is not a prerequisite for the Ryder Cup team, it's the USA versus Europe, politics be damned.
@@williamwallace3931 lol
Well said Brad!!!
Faxon for President..!!!
Faxon is in a class near Watson
Faxon’s ears r huge
Yeah, Chamblee is old school his way off the mark on this
Awesome stuff Brad Faxon. Finally someone speaking sensibly. Brandname Chimpanzee left speechless.
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 LoL
@@williamwallace3931 Phil is a legend and LIV will never tarnish it. Sorry
Trumpanzees
We don't care about pgatour, we wanna see good golf
Chamblee has always been a tool.
What a PGA stooge…he sounds ridiculous❗️
Hey Brandel, Euro players playing on the US tour play for the Euros in Ryder Cup. They are playing for their country not for the tour they are playing on.! Faxon is correct The best players should play representing their country
Brandel was declaring victory at the beginning of the week in terms of lawsuits and Brooks declared victory on Sunday with the trophy
Rahm, McIlroy, Hovland all played more tournaments on the PGA Tour than the European Tour last year. So they are playing where the money is and not representing their tour. Yes they are representing their countries though so it's no different than Koepka playing on another tour chasing the money.
You’re totally right. It’s ridiculous. LIV will never be as big as the pga tour. But who cares where they play. It’s their decision.
Here we have exactly the problem : all this guy's play on PGA tour because for a win in Europe they get 1) less money 2) nearly zero world ranking points and 3) less money for a start in that tournament. Yes, the stars on PGA tour also have money enough therefore that they start, but not official as LIV it does, they get other learnings round golf....
The politics of PGA tour "America and we first" ruins the dp world tour, they become another Korn Ferry tour. But LIV gives otherwise tours the chance to get free with their money. To get top players in Asia, top events on other tours and so on. I hope the European players, the DP world tour goes more with LIV than with the PGA tour, it would help in coming back as a strong competitive tour again.
Great point!
@@michaelscore6763 Well stated, sir.
When the Dp Tour Championship takes place how many events will Rory have played on that circuit?
1:50 That moment when Brandel got owned and doesn't quite know how to process it. lol
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
Brandel tried to go through his favorite LIV argument door, and Brad Faxon was on the other side waiting for him.
Brandel forgets PGA of America and PGA tour are separate entities.
That's was gold !!
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 you are a hypocrite, picking and choosing what is outrage and isnt how pathetic. The players didn't tarnish their legaicies cause you said so...clown!
@@williamwallace3931 Tarnished Legacy??? Laughable!!
Brandel is just a bonehead.
I'm sorry brandel. Those others that didn't take the money, as you say, weren't necessarily offered "the money".
That's the way competition works Brandel. So, you aren't negotiating for something you were never offered, nes pa?
What you are suggesting is that golf needs all the players "permission" to start a different tour and compete? huh?
OR
We could talk about reality.
The PGA TOur Execs and their co-sponsors thought they didn't have to compete for the players wages through MONOPOLY.
Support the players, if that's what you really are thinking you are doing, by not supporting corporations monopolist negotiating tactics.
If OWGR were actually "rankings" it wouldn't matter who sponsored the tour. The best players would be at the top and the money events would follow the best players.
You see what I am getting at? What the PGA Tour did? It wasn't competition brandel, it was monopoly violence against negotiating for more money.
and you are part of the monopoly Brandel. You are no friend to golf, golfers, or golf professionals.
Just a fool hanger on to something you clearly do NOT understand.
They want the best team they need liv players l find it funny the pga found alot more money after liv started
Not strange at all. Sponsors afraid of losing more players to LIV were forced to invest more money to keep players on the PGA.
@@williamwallace3931 Wow, I thought Jay Monahan simply looked under the cushions of his luxurious office sofa and found a few hundred million dollars there and he added these to the PGAT purses. Isn't that amazing?
@Diogenes 9561 Any commissioner would have been hamstrung competing against an organization with unlimited funding and no eye on a “bottom line”. What would you have done as the commissioner of the PGA?!? Just sitting here in my abject loneliness waiting for your answer🥹
@Diogenes 9561 Viewership has been down since LIV came to fruition. Golf fans are losing interest!!! Sunday’s final round of the PGA Championship on CBS drew 4.517 million viewers, the lowest total in 15 years on a final day. We shouldn’t underestimate the undermining effect LIV’s has had on the sport. Overall competition has been watered-down on both side of the fence and the changes PGA was forced to do because of LIV in an effort to keep players has degraded PGA’s own product. No cuts and exhibition golf and now it’s all about money, exorbitant amounts of money directed towards players who were overprivileged in the first place which wedges itself in between regular fans and the pro golfers. Such a shame and all of that because of a few bad apples who couldn’t resist the money grab because of character issues.
@@williamwallace3931 What would I have done as the PGA Commissioner? When LIV began and the chosen golfers left, I would have bid them farewell and wished them success in their new Tour. This would have prevented a Public Relations meltdown and given the LIV very little publicity. As the old saying goes, "There is no such thing as bad publicity." I would have not attacked the LIV as this makes headlines and I would not have recruited that little HS dropout Rory and then Tiger to start a negative publicity campaign. I would have made the PGAT a bastion of principle above the fray and made it policy for PGAT players like Rory, Tiger, Horschel, and Zalatoris - and, the motormouth Golf Channel talking heads - to keep their yaps shut and not say anything controversial and negative about the LIV. The LIV would then have been an object of curiosity and little else here and may have been motivated to take most of its tournaments to Australia, New Zealand, Indonesia, Thailand, and South Africa where the PGAT is not present. I would also have assisted the DP World Tour financially to help them keep their tour competitive instead of giving the top 10 PGAT cards and diluting their product.
Oh, and I would have also invited any LIV players who were disenchanted with LIV to be welcomed back to the PGAT with no penalty and, maybe, just an apology for making a mistake. Then, I would have increased the purses and done what needed to be done to make peace and avoid controversy. And after a time, i would have discreetly reached out to Greg Norman and seen what could be done to achieve a lasting peace between the PGAT and the LIV.
So, are you not lonely waiting for my answer now? 😄
Brandel had nowhere to go with Brad's response.
That's a first lol
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 The fact you have to keep posting it in every comments shows how scared you are.
@@williamwallace3931 Notice how nobody had a problem with Saudi Arabia until LIV came along. We have been buying thier oil, and selling them weapons ...you never had a problem with that, did you.
Saudi Arabia is an official ally of the United States. So don't let the PGA Tour brain wash you that they are anything else.
@@williamwallace3931LoL
Amazing, Brad Faxon had the honesty and the cojones to stand up to the standard Golf Channel company anti-LIV theme and shoot down that insufferable douche nozzle Brandel Chamblee and state what the majority of the golf fans think. Brandel still thinks that anyone who went to the LIV committed the moral equivalent of treason and should be executed (cancelled). The PGA Tour monopoly is going away and it's time for all reporters for the game of golf to recognize that fact. Kudos to Brad Faxon!!!
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 These kids aren’t concerned about golf legacy. They want to get paid for being the best in the world. The PGA should have let those purse strings lose years ago…
@@williamwallace3931 Well after the whole "virus of unknown origin thing" tyrant is not really a word that we should be throwing around with abandon given most governments responses to it coupled with the true power behind the thrones of "democracies" being faceless corporations who say nice things but whose ethics are almost non existent.
We are not really in that great a position to be holding the moral high ground.
The only real difference between the 2 sides is one has better PR.
Get over your simplistic idea of the world otherwise people will think the clown emoji at the end of your statement was just to describe yourself.
Wait.......Brandel, is that you?
I just love the way you put it my guy, you’re an honourable person. Talent should never be discredited. Thank you again my guy, great words.
@A-B That’s a little gay (not that there is anything wrong with that)
What a perfect quote from Faxon “they’re not playing for their tour, they’re playing for their country”
The awkward silence in response from Chamblee says it all
"Playing for their country, he's an American" what a great quote from Fax. The men and women in the military all join various different regiments etc, but when it comes to representing their country, they are shoulder to shoulder....
They're playing for all kinds of different reasons . . . and, "for their country" may, or may not, be one of them. Chamblee's point that the European team is playing not for a country, but for their tour (or status of their tour), is a good one. Of course, both statements---Chamblee's and Faxon's---can both be true.
US Ryder Cup teams are made up of 1/2 point rankings, from Tour play, and 1/2 captains picks. In any "team" competition, cohesiveness, closeness and respect for teammates is often a very critical factor . . . as has been reflected in a lot the selections we've seen captain's make. I think those decisions need to be the captain's decisions. If he wants to pick an American LIV player or Korn Ferry player or LPGA player, he should be allowed to do so. If he doesn't, for whatever reason, he shouldn't.
Watching Brandel short circuit and just get stuck in a loop with no smug response for once was so satisfying.
Chambles needs to look at PGA and LPGA sponsors. If he took a real look, he should be disgusted at what some of those sponsors have done.
You need to look no further than the FedEx cup. Saudi Arabia is one of their largest partners/customers and Fedex does billions of dollars of business there every year.
sssh, you're saying the quiet part out loud, and Jay Monahan and his bully stooges Rory, JT, Billy Ho, and Tigod won't stand for it
How about looking at the president of United States, who got down on his knees and begged the Saudi’s to drill more oil.
The Ryder cup always has been and should be the best players from America vs the best players in Europe, regardless of where they come from or who they are. Politics aside, it’s about playing for your country and representing it to the best of your ability!
Amen brutha.
Well.... Not always...The Ryder Cup was originally Great Britain and Ireland vs the US
Exactly...put the best players in the country out there...period...give yourself the best chance to win and stop getting political...
This is why the mlb hall of fame has become a joke...
@@stevewiley8409 Well....not even that. it was originally just Great Britain, then Northern Ireland players joined in 1947, then Ireland in 1953, and then Europe in 1979. if the idiotic DP "World" Tour prevents the best players from competing, it may have to become Great Britain, Ireland, Europe and the Rest of the World vs USA!
No it's not. Thats why there are captains picks, that don't just go to the highest ranking players at the time of the tournament: insert Scottie Scheffler circa 2021. And European Ryder Cup teams come specifically from DP World Tour members, while US teams do not have to come from the PGA Tour.
I don’t get all the crying about Liv
bc there is a majority nutjob americans like brandel who think leaving the sacred and wholesome PGA tour to join a new upstart league funded by people who did 9/11 or "saudi blood money" little do they know the saudis have investments in the PGA as well, including the primary sponsor FedEX. does it make sense? no but dimwitted people want to project their political views to anyone who has ears or says anything bad about the wholesome traditional white bred American PGA. LIV is trying to globalize the game of golf more than the PGA has. most of the PGA players play in the Saudi Int'l tournament each year on the Asian Tour anyhow. what in'tl stops does the PGA have besides the nice carribean resorts, canada, japan, and scotland?
It just the PGA trying to put their values above any player’s. They own your rights. They decide how much you’ll make off your likeness. They’ll give you a bonus if you make yourself more popular and effectively make them more money. How dare you try to make more in another league! You’re banned! You can never come into this treehouse again!
@@enc7777 yep
We are pissed off that a brutal regime with no love for the game is ruining golf. The LIV experience is tacky beyond belief!!!
@@williamwallace3931lol dude are you Chamblee in disguise copy and pasting your crap everywhere. PGA sponsors hold business in Saudi as well. Ever heard of Fedex or BMW lol get rid of those tournies too since you're all high and mighty
Brad knows its Brandel and Lynch that are hurting golf . Absolutely buried him as he knows the position he is taking is bitter and biased .
I agree
GC is the fox news of golf...its just propaganda
So good !! It's so so silly there should be no issue with Liv
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 Do you want to repeat your comment anymore? You really need to get educated on this subject before commenting. You are allowed to have a personal opinion on liking LIV or not but sprouting crap without actually doing research is making you look stupid.
Brandel is a fool. How come the PGA purses didn’t increase until LIV? The money just magically appeared? The PGA players should thank the guys who had the balls to go to LIV. Best 12 should make the Ryder Cup… regardless of tour.
Not strange at all. Sponsors afraid of losing more players to LIV were forced to invest more money to keep players on the PGA.
@@williamwallace3931 this destroys the media narrative that the guys who went to LIV weren’t any good and all washed up. Total BS. The money has always been there. It took 17 guys leaving for the monopoly to finally pay up. The 12 best players should represent the US in the Ryder Cup. US Soccer is associated with MLS….do they ban guys who leave and play in other leagues from representing the US at the World Cup? No, they don’t.
@@Harvdog1371 Well said, sir, well said.
Chamblee stop crying already. He must've been so butt hurt Brooks won 😂😂😂
Faxon on point while Brandel sits there with his ass handed to him
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 Brad did finish his thought. He exposed Brandel for the ass he is. Then Brad eloquently stated they are playing Golf. Last time I checked the Ryder Cup had been around before the PGA Tour, the PGA Tour is not USA and it is not Golf; it is a $100 Million Dollar profitable corporation that should not be tax exempt.
@@williamwallace3931 stop copying and pasting
LIV vs pga is getting old…it is what it is….accept it and move on. Everyone is better off. I bet one day Phil would do a tell-all Netflix series on pga secrets.
Wow that would be rated x lol
only if he is wearing smoke shades, a leather jacket, and lines of cocaine on the table
@@alexsamain812 lol the commissioner of the PGA is probably lookin that way right now
How can anyone take Chanblee seriously at this point? 😂
he made a fool of himself talking about how LIV players are has beens and that they play against a weak field 😂
He’s right!!! Only a handful are great, the rest has-beens and nobody’s.
@@williamwallace3931 Yeah now you and the likes of Chamblee are backtracking and saying "we always knew some LIV players were great" 😂
@@williamwallace3931Wrong butt boy. The majors have proved your statement idiotic.
@@williamwallace3931 1000% I can go back and find comments of you saying “they’re all washed up… let them go play over there!” Or “they couldn’t win on the pga so they left…” now it’s “ohhh we knew a handful of them were good.” Don’t you know you’re full of shit. And don’t even think of replying bc you’re just typing a lie. You know deep down you never thought anyone went LIV could compete.
Man, it looks like somebody died on that set. 😂
Finally, Faxson has a backbone . It's passed time to give up the insane stance of " blood money " "Saudi backed " BS and OPEN YOUR EYES to the reality of golfers that are the best at their game no matter were they play . It's obviously to a 2 year old . Give it up ! Jim Nanzt also with his swipe at DJ . I don't know how the DP tour gets over it, they fired Stenson ...how can they now let LIV players in without looking like total tools 😮
Well stated, sir. Brad Faxon is the first GC personality to not parrot the PGA Tour company mantra and I want to see more of his candid honesty on the Golf Channel.
If anyone ever brings up the blood money, point them to the FedEx cup. FedEx does billions of dollars of business with Saudi Arabia every year. I guess Rory should give his check back from last year.
@@JJG86 exactly 💯
@JJ G The nature of the free market and capitalism works as follows - you are forced (yes forced) to do business with enemy countries as well as friendly to survive the competition. If you take a stand and avoid doing business with certain parties somebody else will exploit this and outgrow you. The reason being sanctions and embargoes under the United Nations system must be imposed ONLY when there is a threat of or actual breach of international peace and security. Whereas being an employee of an enemy country is something you can avoid all together unless you have been invaded. The PGA Tour has 27 sponsors who do $40 billion worth of business in Saudi Arabia on an annual basis but that’s a completely different thing than being owned by the Saudi Arabian government like LIV is or in the case of Aramco which is a Saudi company who is the largest sponsor for the LPGA. Gotta love the false equivalency people use!!! Remember the 40 billion dollars are being spent in Saudi Arabia by sponsors who are NOT Saudi companies but companies who also do business with the rest of the world as well as Saudi Arabia. Selling shaving cream to Saudi citizens or John Deere tractors to farmers in SA is not the same as being a de facto employee of the Saudi Arabian government or the South African. Saudi Arabia’s government is made up of by bad actors, but that does not mean that fed-ex shouldn’t deliver packages within Saudi Arabia. They shouldn’t be barred from receiving goods or services from the western world due to their atrocious leadership. That’s how the free market and capitalism work in a free world! Thanks for listening😅
@JJ G Why people can’t tell the difference between doing business with Saudi Arabia and being an employee of the regime is beyond me!!! Remember you represent those you work for whether you like it or not. The players who have joined LIV are lending their reputations to a monarchical dictator who murder and repress his enemies and desperately wants to gain leverage and acceptance in the free world. Being an employee means they are deciding for you what to do with practically no leeway and you are obligated to represent the employer’ values who gets to define their product, whereas doing business you get to decide terms, liability, and make a series of demands and so forth. Thanks for listening😅
Give me a break Brandel coming out of the players pockets what BS there prize money has gone up since LIV
Yep. I guess he doesn't find anything wrong when it's the PGA Tour whose hand is in the pockets of players.
Golf Channel and pundits are pushing fans away with all this division
Golf is getting political, and should not be. Like Bradster said “they are playing golf.” As a fan, I want to see the best players in our planet that qualify for Majors, except Patrick Reed and any other cheating MF’s out there!
Yup and Brandel sucked at golf so why does his opinion count?
Brandel can't carry Brad Faxon's jockstrap.
Brandel should of been terminated when he ripped on the golfers (independent contractors), chose to leave for another golf league, His words, his attitude was , and is despicable
Let's remember that the Golf Channel bills itself as "the official channel of the PGA Tour" and Brandel, Eamon Lynch, and the other talking heads have all sang the same anti-LIV song since the LIV began. IMO, I'd like to see him locked in a room with Brooks Koepka for about 15 minutes so Brooks could administer an "attitude adjustment," if you know what I'm talking about and, I think you do.
Brandel is just pissed off that a brutal regime with no love for the game of golf is ruining golf. He has every right to be salty!!!
@@williamwallace3931 "...a brutal regime with no love for the game of golf is ruining golf." You're speaking, of course, of Commissioner Jay Monahan and the PGA Tour and his brutal and prejudicial opposition to the LIV? Or, were you speaking about the Golf Channel? 😂😂😂
The PGA and Monahan should not have a monopoly on golf but that should be corrected by the free market and capitalism as we know it where profit is THE guiding principle and not by the Saudis where a lack of profit is no concern of theirs which in and of itself is very problematic because of the power that comes with it where you don’t have to be accountable and can be indifferent to the effects you are causing!!! Being admittedly a traditionalist and being appreciative of the rich traditions golf history have to offer where legacy is THE comparative measure in which to decide a golfers succes which means that continuity and golfers sharing the same platforms is paramount!!! This is why many traditionalists feel a a certain betrayal by the players who joined LIV because they are making it impossible to compare and contrast legacies. It’s about the lack of respect and appreciation that bothers me. Remember without spectators and fans these athletes have nothing, no business, zilch, nada, diddly-squat so it goes without saying - it should be a symbiotic relationship between regular golf fans and pro golfers based on mutual respect and understanding that decides what golfers do in their careers. But instead the LIV players has chosen for themselves the cash grab from a very controversial source without any regard for their followers and the sport even though they were VERY well off in the first place and didn’t need to put everything aside because of money concerns. Such a shame on so many levels!!!
@@williamwallace3931 In terms of the free market, one of the major tenets is "freedom for individuals to choose businesses". It should be a "symbiotic relationship between regular golf fans and pro golfers based on mutual respect and understanding that decides what golfers do in their careers". There's a lot to unpack there. Which players in the past did you help decide what to do with their career? LIV picked up 6-8 players that are in their prime, the rest know they aren't competitive as they used to be on the PGA Tour. Professional golf is just fine... actually it's in a better place as a result of the changing landscape, improvements with the PGA Tour, and wave after wave of incredibly talented young players joining each year. Somebody, please hand me a mic, so I can drop it.
US PGA & DP Tour dont own golf and golfers. LIV is now the elite global tour with the best players. Rahm, Rory, Fitz etc play mostly in USA, so they cant represent their country in Ryder Cup? See how twisted PGA Tour Mgmt is. Best to cooperate & co-exists, not monopolistic protectionism. This same nonsense is playing out in West (15% of world population) vs China and rest of the world geopolitics. Peace & cooperation. Love Golf!
Faxon just blew that blow hard out of the water.
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 Are you Brandel?
@@wrenc7738 He wishes 🤣🤡
@@wrenc7738 He's Brandel dude....100%
In 10 years when LIV is the premiere Your, I hope the executives at LIV tell all the biased hate media to stuff it and go back to the PGA feeder tour for LIV GOLF. GO LIV GOLF
Keep dreaming🤣
Never seen brandle lost for words like that ! Lol
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
@@williamwallace3931 You posted this bs under a lot of comments, clown.
Well said Brad!!
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
Do a liv vs pga ryder cup style event...it would be huge
IMO, a 4 day event PGAT versus LIV would be the Super Bowl of golf. The TV ratings and the revenue the broadcast rights would bring would be tremendous.
That would be great...I'd have to think the tour would win but the liv is by no means weak...brooks, dj, cam, bryson, phil...all recent major winners and all still capable of winning more...I think it would be much closer than people think
I'd honestly root for liv just to see brandel lose it
Shamblee is a hateful disgrace....he doesn't want the US Ryder team to have the best team
Everybody were smiling but PGA CEO Seth Waugh and Branden Chamblee. Monopoly under attack and their zone of comfort has been compromised. LIV is here to stay and so with electric vehicles. Why afraid of competition and change. Innovate excellence.
It was an interesting point BC made about players taking the LIV money so should not qualify for the Ryder Cup. So, a European player on the DP World Tour goes to America and plays on the PGA tour for the greater rewards, does this mean he should not qualify for the Ryder cup? The tours need to stop fighting and learn to get along.
He almost said the quiet part out loud.. "the PGA IS GOLF"..... they want their monopoly over golf to never end.
Bingo
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
Then Koepka wins the PGA.. perfect
PGA and PGA Tour are separate entities, that was part of Faxon’s argument.
@williamwallace39312. Faxon did finish his thought. He said “he’s an American”. Why did you leave out how he actually finished his thought, and substitute yours?
omg,,, even when Liv players beats PGA players its still hate
Liv is legitimate
Clearly they are legitimate as much as I hate LIV. They have a slew of major champions and Ryder cup stars. If you are into star power LIV is the best tour. We would dishonor the game, our countries, and the competition if we did not bring our best team.
Not legit, Norman throwing away their money just to hurt PGA. Saudis financed 9/11 wake up
@@Gays4Trump I, personally, like the LIV but I bear no hatred for the PGAT. But, you have stated the truth about the Ryder Cup and I agree with you 100% on that. Politics be damned, the best players should represent their respective teams and to not do this would dishonor the game. Well stated, sir.
The more I hear Brandel Chamblee talk, the more I want to drill my ears out so I don't have to listen to him talk. The PGA tour guys should be kissing LIV's sphincter right about now, because now they realize the money they SHOULD have been making all along.
"The PGA tour guys should be kissing LIV's sphincter right about now, because now they realize the money they SHOULD have been making all along."
Amen, brother, amen!
Exactly right
Yep...Faxon was and is a straight up grounded human being. I'd see him at Lakeside back in the day.
@definitiveenergy yes he seems like a real down to earth guy. I could use some putting lessons from him!
Golf channel sucks up to the pga. Let these guys play.
Brandel is such a windbag. Every player on the PGA Tour should be thanking LIV. The increased purses the Tour pros are enjoying wouldn't have come without LIV. Which only means the Tour has been disingenuous at best.
Brandel has always hated Brooke, so LIV is just an extension of that
Imagine the amount of money that would be generated if Liv and the PGA tour actually worked together. Hold a match between the two tours, and everybody wins. Talking about billions of dollars. And the best players deserve to be on the Ryder cup
In the old days the Ryder cup was US tour v British tour and then Euro tour.....maybe a PGAT v LIV tour match could replace the Presidents cup....every two years
Imagine if the DP tour changed tack and went with LIV. DP tour at present is dead and buried, open up it up to LIV players, suck eggs and tell the PGA, where out.
@@1362pc IMO, a Ryder Cup type format tournament of PGAT versus the LIV would be the Super Bowl of golf. The TV audience worldwide would be giant and the broadcast fees and the advertising time on the broadcast would be tremendous. And, best of all, it would be a win/win for each Tour, many $$$s for everyone.
Just an afterthought, how about a cage wrestling match of Jay Monahan versus Greg Norman after the tournament? That may be a bigger draw than a heavyweight championship fight.😁
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Liv-vs-PGA tour and all of golf wins. Players, sponsors, merchants, we're talking billions.
We now need the OWGR to sort out their system and start ranking players properly. Let's face it - the PGA have done zero to take the game to the rest of the world. They want it all to themselves. Post Tiger the game needs money and the Saudis want to bring a load to the party. The game will stagnate if we don't include them.
Go Brad Faxon!! At last somebody actually stands up to BC who along with the PGA tour are dragging the game of golf down by not accommodating LIV.
So you would be fine if the Saudi's started a US Flag Football League and paid Patric Mahomes, Josh Allen and others a 100 million to play? Tell me what the difference is.
Jay Monahan lost this battle when the Majors allowed the LIV players to play. Any leverage he had is gone. If Fred Ridley, (Augusta chairman), had said no....this would have all turned out different. Jay thought he was the big dog, Fred said hold my beer.
Yeah but eventually, unless you're a past winner these LIV players will become obsolete if (as currently) will not gain world ranking points in their "tournaments"
Bumbling Brandell got cooked !! Hilarious !!
Can we stop with the poor PGA crap. Just about all sponsors with the PGA take money do business with China or Saudi …..stop it.
This has been good for golf, rivalry is always good for sports. That's how the Super Bowl came about, because of the upstart AFC. So, there needs to be a "Super Bowl" of golf every year or 2. LiV vs PGA, and it should be a whole new concept, maybe knockout rounds until the final LIV golfer is standing, and the final PGA golfer, then an 18 hole match with their team on their shoulders, that would be big drama!!
I think well done to Brad Faxon for being balanced and logical. Chamblee for someone who is supposed to be a balanced presenter has got himself far too entrenched. It’s the Golf Channel not the PGA channel.
💯! Your final sentence is gold!
They're playing golf. Just like a car mechanic, work for whomever they want.
Bingo
Even working for Hitler would be ok for you?!? They are just mechanics working in a concentration camp🤡
I still don't know how brandle shamblee stays on the air. He is always a negative person back in tiger's day. He was always trying to talk poorly about tiger and his decisions. He is a glass half Empty person, He always has negative things to say about everything. I think brad faxton was a total gentleman and spoke his truth.
Amen, brother, amen!
Faxon is a good and decent man. Quite a contrast from what we see continually see of Chamblee.
Players benefit with more organizations competing in the market. LIV is the best thing for players.
Brandel knows he’s wrong and still can’t admit it. I’m not a LIV supporter, but Brooks should be on the team. Brandel is the primary reason I no longer watch pre and post tournament segments on Golf Channel.
I'll start watching GC again once they fire Blah Blah Chamblee.
Is Ryder Cup just the PGA or just the R&A or the DP Tour... It's not, so LIV makes golf political... Its really ok the USA hasn't really been good in Ryder Cup since 1985 or so... now we can say well its because 3 the worlds best were politically banished even though its Zach's job to recruit the best American team that he can... Would not want to be the American Captain anymore...
This is absolute GOLD!
Its a representation of your country/nationality more than your tour
Majors matter not the tours clowns
Faxon brings the voice of reason to the golf channel.
Many years ago, George Orwell said, "In times of universal deceit, speaking the truth becomes a revolutionary act." Kudos to Brad Faxon for such a revolutionary act, speaking the truth on the Golf Channel which bills itself as "The official channel of the PGA Tour." I only wonder if Brad will ever be invited back after making Chamblee appear as the village idiot he is. I hope he's back many times as a voice of reason there.
Perfectly said
This aged well
Where in the sweet mashed potatoes did this idea that, the PGA Tour IS GOLF. Oh. A bunch of old traditionalist and elites who want it for their own. In the words of Tim McGraw “things change “
The community is golf. Not the tour. The golf community can keep on living without the tour. The tour cannot keep on leaving without the dark community. When is necessary in one’s not, the last statement also goes through for Brandel Chamblee.
Well stated, sir.
Hi Brandel: Here is my question. the point of the Ryder cup is to beat the Europeans. Are we fielding the best team with Koepka, Johnson and DeChambeau on the sidelines?
Chamblee is the "Doug Niedermeir" of the Golf Channel.
That's m***********. act like he didn't take the money for this job when he could have Let a guy who went to school 4 broadcasting.
Liv is obviously a huge threat to the future of the PGA Tour. But if a guy qualifies for the Ryder Cup he should play. Let them battle that other stuff out in court. Don’t get the players involved. My 2 cents
Branded hates the LIV tour players because they “took the money”. No… they are earning the money. Every Pro player on every Pro tour is earning the money. That’s their job. The Ryder Cup is not a job. Brad has it right… let the best play.
Chamblee, think its one tour win ? and was never close to Ryder cup caliber player. Mute the television when hes yapping. Even worse than Joe Buck
Tribalism in sport is a good thing, LIV vs The PGA tour every two years would be money.
Chamblee is as clueless as always. If you want the best golfers representing your country, then what tour they make their living on is irrelevant.
Chamblee and Lynch will never recover from Brooks winning.
The pga has to put up all this money to fight law suits that come out of the players pockets? What a load of crap. Some how thanks time Phil the pga has all this money to increase prize money that goes into players pockets.
Has anyone checked on Chamblee today? Tell him to step away from the ledge 😂
Fans want to see the best golfers play. Period. Regardless of what tour they play on.
Brandell is truly the most annoying know it all of any sport.
Hopefully Faxon will have some influence with Rory also. Coexist. PGA Tour should allow LIV in Players Match Play event. Also there could be an end of year LIV vs PGA event. Top 8 from each Tour.
PGA are in Court for alleged unlawful acts. My suggestion is Networks & Sponsors act to remove Brandel from his golf public announcement position. Why is Brandel opposed to International Golf and ensuring PGA Executives act within International Business Laws?
We want the best players to represent us in the Ryder Cup.
Why does the golf channel keep that man
The basic of arguments. Truth trump's all.
BC is always muted at my house.
Who really wants to see this devolve into PGA vs DP rather than US vs Europe? I understand the spite towards LIV, but it shouldn't undermine the greatest traditions. We know the only thing keeping Europes best playing 2-3 DP events a year is the Ryder cup qualification. Its kind of pathetic that DP considers all the majors as DP events just so it seems like the top players play in more than a couple, but that tour has been absolutely ravaged by the PGA and its only leverage is gatekeeping the Ryder. Its president is a PGA puppet that ensures the feeder tour is operating in the best interests of the PGA.
Just imagine what the DP Tour roster will look like in a few years after the top 10 for each year leave for the PGA Tour and, maybe, a few defect to LIV? They'll need European club pros to fill out a tournament field.
Brad Faxon - Great putting coach and point maker, so good too see. Brandel is a great panelist but his constant smearing of LIV made him unpalatable during the broadcast. Just entertain us with your analysis Brandel and not agendas. Well done Brad Faxon 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
Faxon ❤
Let’s face it Brad did not finish his thought when he concluded -“they are playing for their country.” But leaves out they are playing for their legacy too - and there is the rub!!! LIV players tarnished legacy by representing a tyrant crown prince will tarnish the Ryder cup as well. So off they go🤡
Brandel has a losing argument, PGA Tour made their decision to regards to LIV, and so did PGA, USGA, R&A and Augusta, and the organizations for majors want the best in the world to compete.
it's a winning move for the majors, why would they succumb to the same rules the PGA axed? a LIV guy just won a major and Brandel is now broken, you love to see it
Chamblee’s just a big bamblee wamblee