Singxer SU-6 DDC review: digital to digital, what's the point of this sillines?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- Expensive, but highly recommended if you have system transparent enough.
Great synergy with my Gustard X26 Pro and Semibreve DACs.
If I didnt cover something important in the video feel free to ask me in the comments. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Thanks, first time I have heard a clear explanation of the audio effect of a DDC.
Great explanation my friend, your channel is a hidden gem!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Hello, I have the denafrips ddc iris with the denafrips terra mlck, connected to the ares II... Yes, a change of DAC wouldn't hurt. Everything connected to the rose rs250a and an emotiva erc-3 gen2.
Nicely done, Thank you 😎👍
I missed out on the opportunity to purchase the Kitsune edition for less than $400. Since I already had Gustards U18, I wasn't sure if it would have been worth it.
That was a good price. There are couple of threads about modding SU-6 over the web, sometime in the future I may do a couple of easy and recommended tweaks. These may not be "full Kitsune" level but may improve some aspects.
This is such a good explanation, thank you. Wondering, is it still worth it if not going to I2s?
It is, but the effects will be smaller. Also maybe that's something for nerds like me but this also enables you to connect two or more DACs at the same time and stream to all of them simultaneously. Good thing for comparing them when using integrated amp - just by switching inputs having all other parts of the system exactly the same.
@@k4syx That makes sense. Still a good value, considering. Love my current Dac, but would love to get an r2r option down the line. Never though of using a ddc to easily switch between them 👍🏼
@@riccitone think larger - switching whole setups!
@@k4syx yes!! Taking your cue on that for sure 👍🏼
Thank you for the review - would putting the same money into a higher level dac make a bigger difference than adding this to an existing setup?
Depends on your starting point, if your DAC is entry level, than go go better one, it will give you better sound for less money. However when you're approaching state of the art it's very hard to get better sound, and it costs more and more. In such situation you can use ddc to push your DAC to limits for "relatively" less money.
All in all, everything depends on your wallet :)
@@k4syx much appreciated
Hello again :-)
Is this not a bid of an old fashioned tool?
If you have a modern streamer having Usb and a modern DAC with Usb it all should be 100% right?
Like my Chord Quetest and the newest Lumin streamer like the mini u2?
Is it not so that now adays everything is more streamed together much better than a few years ago?
Do you know this?
Greetings again. 😊
Hi again!
These are two things here. The first one: ddc improves SQ for digital signal from USB input, regardless of the source. It's just about the way serial data sound stream is being sent over USB with no correction or retransmission whatsoever. So if your streamer is connected to your DAC via USB, then you will benefit from ddc.
The other question for me is streaming. I'm getting all my music in "hard" copies via some FLAC/DSD shops. I have Spotify and Amazon streaming subscription, but I strongly believe in owning things that I pay for. What if S will go bankrupt? What if there will be some scandal and artists will flow away? What if we will have war and we won't have access to the web?
Also, how fast can a hardware streamer get obsolete? Look at bd players and TVs: 3-4y old stuff already has problems with streaming formats because of lack of firmware updates. And without that streamer is just expensive, inflexible brick....
All in all, long story, maybe worth recording a few thoughts someday:)
a whole lot to talk about indeed. 🙂 Thanks for your thoughts.
@@k4syx
The best DDC it's: Berkeley Alpha USB, Bryston BUC-1 and Audiobyte Hydra.
Other devies not give really best sounding for your money and time...
Quick question you ended up using the external clock on DDC?
Quick answer no, I'm using external clock on my DAC. The clock input on ddc is for word clock for syncing data transmitted in words between transmitter and receiver. You'd connect the same clock signal to both of them and use it for syncing data transfers.
So, long story short, just a 10MHz ext clock for my Gustard X26PRO
I have a lumin streamer. Would this DDC converter be compatible just by plug-in play, or does it need drivers installed first.
If you mean Lumin X1 than there is no way to use them both because as I can see Lumin has USB and network connection inputs, and the Gustard will not have network outputs. So no way to use them together IMHO.
I have a Lumin U1 mini it has all the digital output to go to a dac, instead of going directly to a dac I wanted to go into the singxer first then out via coax or fiber into my dac. I'm not using a computer. My question is from what I read is that this DDC your reviewing says it needs drivers down loaded to a computer to work, I'm not using a computer, will this DDC work without installing drivers or is this unit only computer compatible?
@@shannonwilliams6623 The only input on this device is USB. This needs drivers to work in windows ASIO mode, but works without them as standard USB class 2 audio device. So if Lumin is based on some Unix/Linux core and can output to USB you should be fine with no drivers needed.
Alvin Chee from Denafrips said that when using a LUMNI U2 Mini he found no difference when interposing a DDC before the DAC, because the LUMIN's clocks were very good (it has 2 clocks per channel). I also have a LUMIN U1 mini, so I would like to know if anyone has experienced the opposite.
@@luisrodrigonunezolguin7038 unfortunately I don't have anyone around here with Lumin, if I had I would check it for you with my Stax SR-007. These are precise as medical stethoscope (which usually makes my wallet hurt) ;)
Should also add a good clock for USB>spdif transmission.
Which clock are you thinking about? Word would be for AES, external clock for DAC (10MHz, I made a video on doing this cheap way) is recommended, but that's not for USB.
Could you elaborate please?
@@k4syx The 22/24 MHz USB clock. Mine has 2 TCXO driving the XMOS chip.
Excuse a strange question, but are you Polish by any chance?
Yes there is a strong chance for that ;)
Why?
Yes he is...
@@k4syx I've recently started my own audio review channel (youtube.com/@normcoregreg) and now I keep stumbling upon fellow Polish reviewers. That's it :)
Why do you need DDC? DAC is what people used mostly
you have to use a DAC anyway, the complete connection chain is: Computer -> DDC -> DAC
Three scenarios: 1. Improving data stream quality from your USB source, 2. Multiplying digital outputs, 3 HQ Conversion from USB to SPDIF if your DAC doesn't have USB input -yes there are such units :)
It's not "I two S" but pronounced "I squared S".
Yeah I'm never sure about that ;)