@@kevinsullivan989 Most people that aren't in law don't know about them. Pete worked nights most of his career, he stayed out of the limelight. I knew of him but never saw him.
@@krisone63 To NYC ppl, there are zero cops with city-wide fame. It's never been. Even the Commissioners have little recognition. Now, there are a few names from the past with a little internet fame, but that happened years after the fact, and it was the criminals they busted who gave them the notoriety....
My heart stopped when i saw this posting. These two gentlemen are absolute legends and it is a true honour to see them together and hear stories only they can tell. Wow. Your reach is admirable - I am sure they wouldn't have sat down with anyone else. Thank you for this valuable piece. Added bonus: matching ties!
Intellect, experienced men discussing their respective roles in important cases. Wonderful! I also loved the respect they showed each other throughout. Excellent interview, thank you Mark.
These are the interviews that get me hanging on the edge of my seat. Nobody can deny the dark shades of grey in this world when this channel exists. Thanks for everything Mark.
You can see the long years of effort and stress, triumph and failure etched into the faces of these men. They have character. Your NYPD videos are my favorites by far.
Chicago raised here and ditto, bet there are some stories there Mark! I noticed you move through LA, now NYC, there is some good meat especially in the advertising world of Chicago. Would love to hear from any survivors (usually young women from the time) telling those tales to you out of school!!
I could listen to Phil and Pete for hours. One of the best interviews on this channel. Two handsome, tough gents in suits and ties with fascinating stories. I'm not sure they make men like this anymore.
The quality of this work you do with these interviews; straight in a single chair, sparse background and the possibility for the interviewees to present themselves in their words; has a quality comparable to Walker Evans stills or perhaps some of Richard Avedons from Texas. They have a timeless quality. I would refer to it as art even. It takes great courage of you and the interviewees to do this. Thank you
I am gobsmacked to get to hear these amazing, experienced men talk about their life's work. Thank you for a fabulous interview. They're both "wicked smart" and cool beyond words.
Not being an ass, really just asking, isn't "wicked smart" more of a Boston thing? I've lived middle America my who life and this is just something I always was told. But I do agree, couple of smart older guys that seem to both be decent men.
Having grown up in New Jersey during the 70’s and 80’s, it’s SO cool to see and hear these two guys talk about these cases. All of them were very familiar to me, and I’m sure many others who lived thee at the time. Before the days of Internet, with information coming at you constantly from all sides. These were the headlines back then.
Pete’s last interview was phenomenal! It was so phenomenal that I’ve listened to it 3 times. He truly makes you feel like you were actually there when everything he talked about happened.
Loved this! A walk down memory lane, without the sadness that usually comes from SWU. These guys, along with what Giuliani did for New Yorkers is nothing short of legendary.
Wish you much fulfillment in your career. I hear about the no-bail releases, all these "progressive" types allowing criminals back out on the streets. What's happening?
Great interview, thank you guys. Being a New Yorker and coming from a family of law enforcement I really love hearing all these stories from back in the day. Much respect to both of you ❤.
I'm so happy you brought back Peter again Mark. I'm born & raised in NY & his life experiences really hit home. I've told so many people to watch his his episode. Looking forward to watching this one too. Thanks Gents
Great story tellers. From casual observance Phil has the look and demeanor of the detective and Pete that of the reporter. So glad you got these two together. Plus... same tie? What are the odds...
I saw the first interview you did with Panuccio and I thought it was great. But when I saw this interview with Panuccio and Messing I was stunned. Why? Because I know Phil from Coney Island, and I loved the give and take between these two guys. Great stories!!!
As a young women living in NYC back in the day, I will forever be grateful to Rudy Giuliani for cleaning it up and making it safe. I didn't think it was possible as it wasnt before and isn't now. Great interview from two fine professional gentlemen.
Great interview from two people from a time when policing and journalism operated under much different standards. Really appreciate the nuanced details on the cases and stories that were national news at the time, especially when it runs counter to what was being reported. Excellent work putting these two together!
The interview was fascinating. Nearing 70, my roots are in New York City, where I spent my childhood in Manhattan and Staten Island. My daily commute involved trains, ferries, and buses. I pursued higher education on Staten Island and later worked at E.F. Hutton on Wall Street for several years. In late 1979, I enlisted in the Marine Corps (22 years in USMC & 19 years in LE), after living through a period in NYC that preluded the narratives discussed in this interview. It appears my departure was timely.
What a fantastic point the newspaper man made about the origins of conspiracy theories. It is hard sometimes to know tragedy occurs due to the actions of a nobody and a big nothing for a motive.
We need more! Love listening to these two.I'd also just like to add,your amazing mark! Been with you since the beginning & watching your channel grow has been awesome! Keep on keeping on.
The whole Espteins conversation with these two Gentlemen still doesn't bring me any resilience on the negligence and failures of what has really taken place and any backdoor deals from Mr. Jeffrey Espteins untimely demise still does not resignate with me very well. I hold heartily believe that J.E had names he would mention upon being taken down by feds.
You can live to be 100 yrs old and some of the things you see in NYC are embedded in your mind, heart, & soul. I've lived in NYC for 47 yrs now, & I WISH I could unsee some of the things I've seen.
Mark should make a playlist that’s focused on old school NYC story’s like the many cops , reporters , gangsters etc that we’ve seen in the last few years
Pete Panuccio! One of my favorite people! And also one of the greatest names of all time. I just like saying it. I read the NY Post religiously for years.
I had my identity stolen 4 years ago. Horrible! I had to go through so much crap. They & I had the exact same names. First & last. BUT, there was one letter in their name that was reversed. They got caught by me & IRS. They didn't fine, or send them to jail for only one day. Nothing happened to them. Bastards.
LOL, so good to see Phil Messing is still alive and kicking. Phil worked for many years in the "Shack" an office in the belly of NYPD One Police Plaza covering the police beat or the "blotter". Phil is a legit and old school legend for crime reporting. I can vouch he is the real deal. All the best Phil.
I am 73 and born raised New York. These two are legendary icons. I love your channel you are amazing and deserve recognition for what you do.
Mark and Soft White Underbelly is the best!!
Im 52, same, but I never heard of either of them.
@@kevinsullivan989 Most people that aren't in law don't know about them. Pete worked nights most of his career, he stayed out of the limelight. I knew of him but never saw him.
@@krisone63 To NYC ppl, there are zero cops with city-wide fame. It's never been. Even the Commissioners have little recognition. Now, there are a few names from the past with a little internet fame, but that happened years after the fact, and it was the criminals they busted who gave them the notoriety....
People actually alept in their bathtubs?
My heart stopped when i saw this posting. These two gentlemen are absolute legends and it is a true honour to see them together and hear stories only they can tell. Wow. Your reach is admirable - I am sure they wouldn't have sat down with anyone else. Thank you for this valuable piece.
Added bonus: matching ties!
Intellect, experienced men discussing their respective roles in important cases. Wonderful! I also loved the respect they showed each other throughout.
Excellent interview, thank you Mark.
These are the interviews that get me hanging on the edge of my seat. Nobody can deny the dark shades of grey in this world when this channel exists. Thanks for everything Mark.
You can see the long years of effort and stress, triumph and failure etched into the faces of these men. They have character. Your NYPD videos are my favorites by far.
Chicago raised here and ditto, bet there are some stories there Mark! I noticed you move through LA, now NYC, there is some good meat especially in the advertising world of Chicago. Would love to hear from any survivors (usually young women from the time) telling those tales to you out of school!!
The gritty Saints of the real, often times dark world we live in.
I could listen to Phil and Pete for hours. One of the best interviews on this channel. Two handsome, tough gents in suits and ties with fascinating stories. I'm not sure they make men like this anymore.
Great interview! I'm a born and raised Californian & ever since I was a kid could never get enough stories from NYC. I could listen to them all day!
The quality of this work you do with these interviews; straight in a single chair, sparse background and the possibility for the interviewees to present themselves in their words; has a quality comparable to Walker Evans stills or perhaps some of Richard Avedons from Texas. They have a timeless quality. I would refer to it as art even. It takes great courage of you and the interviewees to do this. Thank you
I am gobsmacked to get to hear these amazing, experienced men talk about their life's work. Thank you for a fabulous interview.
They're both "wicked smart" and cool beyond words.
Not being an ass, really just asking, isn't "wicked smart" more of a Boston thing? I've lived middle America my who life and this is just something I always was told.
But I do agree, couple of smart older guys that seem to both be decent men.
I’ve worked on the streets of NYC for 34yrs. Love the stories and the passion for, almost obsession with the job. War stories, you live it.
"Worked on the streets" as in...cop, reporter, or...?....
Having grown up in New Jersey during the 70’s and 80’s, it’s SO cool to see and hear these two guys talk about these cases. All of them were very familiar to me, and I’m sure many others who lived thee at the time. Before the days of Internet, with information coming at you constantly from all sides. These were the headlines back then.
LOVE seeing people being interviewed who are articulate and interesting. GREAT program.
Pete’s last interview was phenomenal! It was so phenomenal that I’ve listened to it 3 times. He truly makes you feel like you were actually there when everything he talked about happened.
Yes, I did as well!
Absolute old school icons!!
Next few hours will be gold ✨️
Telling you old cop guys are just fascinating. Brilliant Mark.. cop and reporter. You are so talented it crazy
I could listen to these men for hours!
This is one of the best episodes I've heard on the channel. Super interesting the entire time.
Loved this! A walk down memory lane, without the sadness that usually comes from SWU.
These guys, along with what Giuliani did for New Yorkers is nothing short of legendary.
I’m a criminal justice major and I absolutely loved this video. These guys are so interesting and articulate. I learned so much. Thank you Mark.
Wish you much fulfillment in your career.
I hear about the no-bail releases, all these "progressive" types allowing criminals back out on the streets.
What's happening?
Great interview, thank you guys. Being a New Yorker and coming from a family of law enforcement I really love hearing all these stories from back in the day. Much respect to both of you ❤.
I'm so happy you brought back Peter again Mark. I'm born & raised in NY & his life experiences really hit home. I've told so many people to watch his his episode. Looking forward to watching this one too.
Thanks Gents
Great story tellers. From casual observance Phil has the look and demeanor of the detective and Pete that of the reporter. So glad you got these two together. Plus... same tie? What are the odds...
Another great one
This channel is becoming legendary
IT ALREADY IS LEGENDARY LOL.
@@Lexington-Felixeven more so
The legend grows!
I could listen to them for hours and still enjoy it! Pete is so funny and Phil very well spoken, thank you gentlemen.
Less drugs, more of this kind of stuff. Great video
Yes‼️
These guys where Detectives in N.Y. around the 80s?..
WOW. I cld listen to their stories for hours.
Great video.
Love that you guys are aligned because you were both cops but you’re different and have the same ties. Solidarity ❤
I saw the first interview you did with Panuccio and I thought it was great. But when I saw this interview with Panuccio and Messing I was stunned. Why? Because I know Phil from Coney Island, and I loved the give and take between these two guys. Great stories!!!
These two should have a podcast.
This channel does a great job of finding fascinating stories and sitting back letting these people tell their story.. Great Job!!
As a young women living in NYC back in the day, I will forever be grateful to Rudy Giuliani for cleaning it up and making it safe. I didn't think it was possible as it wasnt before and isn't now. Great interview from two fine professional gentlemen.
Those were intriguing stories & a fascinating peek into NYC crime during the period of 70’s-90’s!
Well done interview. Really enjoyed it.
I watched the Pete Panuccio interview and it was FANTASTIC
Pete reminds me so much of Anthony bourdain , he has that old school New York spirit that many don’t have no more
I thought the same. I will always miss Anthony. God bless him.
Yes I Zagreb! Loved Anthony. I think I’ve watched all his stories.
I mean he looks like him, I’d say it ends there though . That and they both lived in nyc
Yes, Pete's voice reminded me of Anthony Bourdain's voice as well. Loved to listen to true crime history from these gentlemen. Thank you
These guys have a wealth of knowledge and experience, I could listen to them all day! I love interviews like these.
Fascinating look at New York. Thanks Fellas. Thank Mark.
These guys are so cool and genuine. It was nice to hear different perspectives on NYC cases. I've learned new things from this video.
Great interview from two people from a time when policing and journalism operated under much different standards. Really appreciate the nuanced details on the cases and stories that were national news at the time, especially when it runs counter to what was being reported. Excellent work putting these two together!
I could listen to these two all day. Great tales!
Thank you Mark….Love these guys!
Absolutely fascinating. Brings back memories of NYC at that time.
Fascinating stuff. Living history being preserved by those who experienced it firsthand. It doesn't get any better than that.
By far my favorite interview I have ever watched in my life
Holy cow was this great! I could listen to these gentlemen weekly. Outstanding!
Such an amazing video. I could watch these guys for days
Absolutely fascinating. Wise and non judgemental. Good people.
The interview was fascinating. Nearing 70, my roots are in New York City, where I spent my childhood in Manhattan and Staten Island. My daily commute involved trains, ferries, and buses. I pursued higher education on Staten Island and later worked at E.F. Hutton on Wall Street for several years. In late 1979, I enlisted in the Marine Corps (22 years in USMC & 19 years in LE), after living through a period in NYC that preluded the narratives discussed in this interview. It appears my departure was timely.
Ah, I remember E. F. Hutton!
The name that is. Haven't heard of them in ages!
Excellent commentary gentlemen, one of the best videos on TH-cam.
I would love to hear more from these 2!
I’d love to hear them review and discuss unsolved cases.
What a fantastic point the newspaper man made about the origins of conspiracy theories. It is hard sometimes to know tragedy occurs due to the actions of a nobody and a big nothing for a motive.
What an interesting interview. Legendary!
I love them!!! They are gold!
We need more! Love listening to these two.I'd also just like to add,your amazing mark! Been with you since the beginning & watching your channel grow has been awesome! Keep on keeping on.
Brilliant and fascinating interview! As they say “they don’t make them like that anymore” !
Best one so far. Awesome interview.
"...and he's back working in the grips union" had me fall out of my chair. WTF??? They re-hired the guy???
Unions are Full of Whores greedy for da bucks
This is one of the best channels. Love the work you put in. Congrats on the channel.
Love these guys; especially knowing that we all have choices
Great episode, I want to appreciate these legends while they (and I) are here!
Phil’s vocabulary is truly impressive.
I loved the matching ties
The whole Espteins conversation with these two Gentlemen still doesn't bring me any resilience on the negligence and failures of what has really taken place and any backdoor deals from Mr. Jeffrey Espteins untimely demise still does not resignate with me very well. I hold heartily believe that J.E had names he would mention upon being taken down by feds.
Excellent interview! These guys are great.
I love these guys and I miss the times they are talking about.
I’m impressed they can recall all this information 😅
You can live to be 100 yrs old and some of the things you see in NYC are embedded in your mind, heart, & soul.
I've lived in NYC for 47 yrs now, & I WISH I could unsee some of the things I've seen.
Last of the there kind for sure absolute legends appreciate your service
Mark should make a playlist that’s focused on old school NYC story’s like the many cops , reporters , gangsters etc that we’ve seen in the last few years
More of these two please!!
Great video. Love those accents. I wonder if this accent is still as common among young New Yorkers today or if it’s dying out.
I love your page Mark. You’re doing great. Each time you supersede the last. I hope you see this. ❤
Mr. Messing putting on a vocabulary clinic!
ITs nice they both decided to wear the same ties. Great interview of two legends.
I looked for a comment regarding their matching ties! 😊
oh my oh my oh my, this was captivating, interesting, entertaining, interesting etc.etc. thanks for sharing.
Old skool guys. Love that vibe.
Thank you.
Thank you gentleman for a very interesting interview
Completely fabulous interview...
Love this interview!
This interview is an absolute pleasure.
Brilliant - thank you from Melbourne
Thank you Mark❤
Pete Panuccio! One of my favorite people! And also one of the greatest names of all time. I just like saying it. I read the NY Post religiously for years.
Pete Panuccio should have his own series
My Favorite Interview Ever!!!!!!
This Channel deserves all the accolades in the world, what great content!!
I had my identity stolen 4 years ago.
Horrible!
I had to go through so much crap.
They & I had the exact same names. First & last. BUT, there was one letter in their name that was reversed.
They got caught by me & IRS.
They didn't fine, or send them to jail for only one day. Nothing happened to them. Bastards.
Thats horrible
Sounds like it was a complex situation on the thieves end.
These guys need a podcast. The stories they could tell about NYC.
Love their matching ties
I wish these two would start a podcast, now that would be fascinating!!!
thank you both for your service
Great interviews ! Interesting not disturbing or depressing actually informative.
Amazing work as always. Pete the cop is such character really appreciate coming back. Hopefully can see more thanks again
One of the best vids yet Mark.
I can't be the only one who feels that Mark was made to do this! From the setup to the way he interacts it's the most beautiful artwork.
LOL, so good to see Phil Messing is still alive and kicking. Phil worked for many years in the "Shack" an office in the belly of NYPD One Police Plaza covering the police beat or the "blotter". Phil is a legit and old school legend for crime reporting. I can vouch he is the real deal. All the best Phil.
Phil’s vocabulary is spectacular! Wow!
No, we're all that stupid in 2024.
After watching twice wanted to say thank you again. Especially to Pete the cop dunno how he's so patient with loudmouth rambling reporter.
How is Phil a loudmouth?
Phil was a great cops and courts reporter. Street smart. Enterprising. Hard worker.
Loved this Interview! Thank you Gentleman... Great storie..Geat listening too...
Thank you