How To BEST LUBRICATE a Motorcycle Chain Whist Traveling - Use Heavy Duty Oil, Not Chain Spray!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2024
- After years of traveling on motorcycles, if there is one thing i have become an expert on, that will most definitely be chain maintenance!
After trying out most chain lubes on the market, one day i decided to give heavy duty oil a go, and i never looked back again!
As easy to apply as chain spray, the heavy duty oil is just so much cheaper and easier to clean off, and gives the transmission just as many miles, maybe even more...
This is what i do, i have been doing it for many years now, and in my opinion it is by far the best way to go. I would still prefere it, even if oil was more expensive.
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Here is a video of how i make my own chain lube:
th-cam.com/video/AwQTIp3J3Oc/w-d-xo.html
6:06 - the point is - you aren't cleaning the chain - all you're doing here is wiping the outside of the link plates. Nothing else. The only crucial parts are the contact the roller has on it's pivot pin - which with an O-Ring chain you can't influence - and the contact the outside of the roller has with the sprocket. That's all there is to a chain. Unless your getting in between the links you achieve nothing - apart from visuals.
I use oil but have recently changed how I apply it. I now use a bottle designed to apply glue to wood. The bottle have bristles on the top to spread the glue on the wood. I put oil in the bottle and 'brush' a film of oil onto the chain. It's an easy and fast way to get good coverage.
That's very interesting 🤔
Thanks for that 👍
Motul C5 Chain Paste?
@@yt9njp rotella lube 😂
Oil and small paint brush
@sarahholland667 i like to think of lubing my chain basically to prevent rush. Just a thin coat. No fling 👍
I will speak _exclusively_ from personal experience. I have been riding since 1985, and obtained my full bike licence in 1988. I have riden bikes ranging fom RD125's and GT250 X7's, through RG500 fours, Kawasaki GPZ 600, early GSX-R 750's and more recently Triumph 955i's and Twins.
Since 1990, when I installed my first Scottoiler on a ZXR750, I have _never_ replaced _any_ chain or sprocket on _any_ of my bikes. Every bike since then has been fitted with an automatic oiler. In 70k miles on the Daytona (a 150bhp bike) I adjusted the chain 3 times. When I traded that in for a Thruxton 900 (just 69bhp, but Ducati style torque) the dealer told me "thanks for having recently changed the chain and sprockets!", "I replied your welcome" although they were in fact the originals. I transfered my Scottoiler from the old bike to the new bike and the Thruxton now has 60k miles and the chain will _easily_ go another 120k.
I have converted friends from spray to oil...its really easy because the _real_ enemy of our chains is in fact heat. Heat expands the chain, allows the internal grease to bypass the O-Rings and wears the sprockets like "shark fins" because the side-plates lengthen when hot, and the contact area creeps up the tooth. Sticky chain lube just converts into a grinding paste, thanks to sand, and road dust sticking to it, and producing excessive heat. So whats the easiest way of converting a friend from sprays? Ride 100 miles together then ask them to check the chain temperature of their bike compared to your's. My chains are relatively cold, a little above ambient temperatures. Their's is uncomfortable to touch for more than a few seconds.
One friend went 22k on his Tiger 1050 before requiring a new drive kit, when changed he vowed never to use spray lubricants again, having read that a completely dry chain would actually last longer. That, second chain, lasted 21k - and was _never_ lubricated from the moment it was fitted. Same heat you see.
My advice - if you intend to do at least 20k on your "new" bike (or new chain), get a Scottoiler - they are cheaper than a chain & sprocket kit, easier to install, and will give you a guaranteed ROI.
I don’t ride a motorcycle with chain anymore, but my first motorcycle with chain had recommendation in the manual to use just engine oil to lubricate a chain. Understandable, easy and no BS. 🙂
Hey there 👋
Thanks for watching 👍
Hopefully my next bike will have a shaft drive too 😁
@@John_Neves Hey, John! No problem! It’s a very useful tip. 👍🏻 In my honest opinion, all this purpose made chain lubricants business is a one big scam. And my bike is not shaft driven, it’s a Harley Road King, man. 🙂 Ride safe! 👊🏻
@@dawidos117 oh that's a nice bike 😍
@@John_Neves yeah! Thanks! My all time dream bike! 🥰
Its good to see a range of methods. People thinking for themselves instead of just buying what they want us to buy.
I have been riding an MZ250 since I bought it in 1984. Following the manual, I applied grease to the (non O ring chain) every 2500km. I replaced the first chain at 128,000km. At 142,000km the second chain looks good. Still on original sprockets.
MZs are brilliant.
They have the enclosed chain which helps a lot .
Wow 😲
@The Old Husky yes offroad its best to run the chain dry..... did that 25 years ago on my Husky WR 360 and still today on my offroadbikes......
142 000 on a two-stroke is impressive. How did the engine hold up over the years?
Awesome will be joining the oil chain gang , never tried but will now . Thanks for sharing your experience and advice 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I've been using oil for years and years. Sticky chain spray + road grit = grinding paste! My chains show minimal signs of wear, and look like new.
he is not using oild.....he is using a mixture of 90% grease and 10% oil
Hay Mate Paul from Australia, a friend of mine users engine oil mixed with graphite power - helps the oil stick . Yes Ryan from Forthnine said engine was one ☝️ of the best lubricants when tested against all others . When I travel I use a Motul chain paste ( it’s like a tooth paste tube but larger . ) it’s fantastic and compact and will fit under most seats . Also you don’t have to worry about it leaking . I reckon I will start using my old 90/130 weight transmission oil - thinker so will stay on better Good 👍 Vid .
Yes indeed. That trick I started using years ago. Works with mountain bike chains as well. Also lube while the chain is hot, thus the cooling chain will suck the oil into the places you really need it to go.
75w-90 gear oil is what I use. Works great!
That's not a bad idea. Won't fling off as much if it's thick
Same. Used to use 80/90 gear oil. Now 75w-90 gear oil semi synth. Scott oiler. Started riding at 20 in 1974. So almost 50 years. F/turner. Now Honda CBR B/bird. Never had problem chains. Ever. Keep tension, clean, lubed. Oiler worthwhile.
@@nigelosgood4922 Rode many dirt bikes growing up and anytime I would put oil on the chain it flung up and made the whole bike and rim totally filthy, was so pissed, and it never stops coming off you could clean the bike 5 times and would still spray off so I stopped lubricating it all together. Might try the 80w90 in "extremely" low doses
@SeaTime i have Scott Oiler. One drop per minute. A little spray only. Don’t forget to adjust chain with someone sitting on. Then always adjust to same deflection when measured when off. Weight changes deflection/tension.
Same here I use a small pastry brush dipped in ep 80 clean off with gt85 spin wheel on paddock stand before each ride no stretch on my790 in 6000 miles totally converted 👍🏻
I use a toothbrush and grease to keep the O-rings lubed. A lot less friction compared to chain wax. Just changed my V Strom 650 chain and sprockets at 35,000 miles. Chain was just starting to show couple links that were getting stiff. Rear sprocket looked almost new. Front sprocket had remarkable longevity showing minimal wear. Only adjusted chain at 10k intervals when replacing tire. Ride in Pennsylvania
May I ask you what kind of grease did you use?
@@fabriziobianchi3126 I use regular wheel bearing grease and have a O ring chain and have not had to adjust my chain on either of my bikes.
@@brianhaenlein396 Do you mean a NLGI 3 Lithium Grease?
I've been using grease as well - for the past 40 odd years, much better than the chain lubes you can buy!
he is also using a mixture of 90% grease and 10% oil....he is just not saying it in this video but in another.....i tryed the heavy duty oil...it didnt hold on to the chain....and now i see he is using 90% grease....🤬😡🤬
I’ve always used Mobil1 synthetic from my oil changes just leave upside down the ‘empty’ bottles and you get plenty to fill a bottle with an applicator tube, works great and it’s free really.
Great video, Been using rear gear oil on motorcycle chains, till up to 85, since 86 my rides have been shaft drive, until this year , I purchased a used Honda 919 & will use gear oil again
I stopped using chain lub cans in my moto a couple of years ago... Exactly as you described. I found in the owners manual that what they recommend is heavy dutty oil. In my case, I use car transmission oil (manual gearboxes use a thicker oil, 70w, I believe). It lubricates quite good, it is easy to clean and costs a fraction of a can of spray lube (As I recall I payed 7€ for half a liter of that stuff, and it lasts a LOT!), as you mentioned. Will never revert to sprays again.
he is not using oil....he is using a mixture of 90% grease and 10% oil.....he is saying that in another video.....🤬🤬🤬
Thanks for sharing. Perfect timing for me as I am about to run out of chain lube spray. Because I do a lot of dirt trail riding I have been using a special motocross so called dry lube. Yet the front sprocket was jammed with dirty greasy crud. I will try what you use.
Fantastic 😁
Give it a go 👍
Talvez o comentário venha tarde, mas a minha experiência diz o mesmo.
Uso oleo 80W-90 com um lubrificador scootoiler, 45000 km com o mesmo kit de corrente cremalheira e pinhão e so agora começo a notar algum desgaste mas mesmo assim nada de grave. Único defeito é quando chove, a agua retira o lubrificante. Nesse caso tenho sempre uma bisnaga com o mesmo óleo e uma escova de dentes velha e lubrifico manualmente.
Boas curvas João.
Concordo completamente. Sim, na chuva é um pouco mais chato.
Boas curvas amigo.
Jar with heavy weight gear oil and a small 1” wide paint brush. Lay on the oil thick while brushing the chain, then a good wipe down takes all the dirt and leaves very little oil to fling off while leaving a nice protective layer of lube on everything. Simple, cheap, fast.
THATS A GREAT IDEA ! IVE BEEN USING A CAN PUMP OILER W GEAR OIL BUT CAN'T GET GOOD COVERAGE CUZ EVERY PUMP JUST GOES ALL OVER MISSING SEVERAL LINKS AND OVER OILING SEVERAL MORE JUST MAKING A HUGE MESS BUT A JAR AND PAINT BRUSH SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD WORK GREAT THAT WILL BE MY NEXT TRY FOR SURE ! THANKS !!
@@davidmarberry5565 you can always apply the oil to the brush with the can and then brush the chain. This way you avoid all the settled dirt that you get in the jar. I have started doing his where I just put a little oil from the pointy spout of the gear oil bottle onto the brush and use the jar to just have a place to set the oily brush.
I have been using oil for chainsaw for many years and it works like a charm
thats a good point
Me too, you can also buy ET (extra tacky) chain saw chain oil, cheap as chips, 1/2 litre bottle will last the life of any chain, just give it a quick clean with WD40 or GT85, dry it off with clean rags, then drip on ya lube, aerosol chain lube is mostly over priced crap.
Clean the chain with paraffin then lube with gear oil
Hey,
Yea I lube my chain only with gear oil.
I have a Nemo2 oiler installed at my bike. Also a Scottoiler would work.
Amazing advice John ! Thanks
The oil John, (apart from conditioning the "O" rings and keeping rust at bay) lubricates and reduces friction between the rollers and the bushings they rotate upon... as the rollers have no "O" rings. 90-140 diff oil is what I use and it makes my rides very smooth. 🙂
Spot on 👍
Yes! The ROLLERS on the rivets,or pins, DO NEED lubrication! The oil and chain should be hot so the oil is pulled into and between the pin/roller with CAPILLARY ACTION. Give the oil a few minutes to seep in….
I mostly agree with you. My one and only issue with your method is how you clean the chain. Don't use a pressure cleaner, because they are strong enough to push water past the O-rings and mix with the lubricant inside the rollers.
I clean with kerosene or diesel. I apply it with a cheap 1" brush. And scrub with a chain brush
@j.a.7721 same here.
I don't want to take advice from a guy who pressure washes his chain lol
@@loop4737 fair enough
he is not using oil.....he is using a mixture...90% grease 10% oil
Been doing same for years. Cheers!
Totally agree with you. I had been doing the same, every 500 kms, since I bought my motorcycle in 2019, both chain and sproket are in good condition. As its dirt cheap, its easy to take care of the cahin set rather than being worried of expences. Availability is also an important factor, if you are out on a long trip its difficult to find chain lube but oil will be easily available.
Very important video, thanks for sharing
Ride Hard, Ride Safe 😎👍🏻
I went a step further and made a chain oiler from a syringe, pneumatic tube going to the rear sprocket and a valve to stop it from leaking. Now my chain is literally lubricated with a press of a button. It really helps on a bike without a central stand. Cheapest gearbox oil stays on the chain for about the same amount of time or kilometers as spray grease. BTW service manual for my bike (and many other bikes) says gearbox oil like 80w90 is what you should use. Spray grease seems like a markeing bull$hit...
I been doing this for some time now, it is the best way to do it. I will however but one on those oiler's I've been doing it with a paint brush but I like your idea better.
Thanks man. I'm glad the video was helpful for you 👍
Wash with white spirit or paraffin. Lubricate with Gear Oil.
I used WD-40 to clean it. Then I use gear oil to lubricate it.
@@turbolag5107 whatever works for you.
Actually makes sense using oil instead of the sprays!! Thanks John!!! Don W., Ohio, USA!
Just don't oil it too much. Think of it as a rust protector. No flinging on to the wheel 👍
@@John_Neves Of course!! Lol.
Engine or gear oil is perfectly fine for dry weather riding, but riding in the rain will wash it off really quickly. Chain lube contains paraffin wax that cures and hardens, and will not be washed away by water. Or at least not nearly as easily as oil. Yes, it is harder to clean, but that is the whole purpose of chain lube - to stick. Also, you don't lube the rollers, you lube the O-rings so they don't dry and wear out. Remember, there is grease on only the pin side of the O-ring, there is no grease on the outside, between the O-ring and the side plate.That part is what you are lubricating.
I heard that you can clean your chain easy-lie with Diesel Fuel.
Yes, bike manual will specify heavy grade oil, only drawback for me is to carry it during my travel. On my smaller bike I use a low cost manual oiler attached to the bike, it work great.
Scotch Oiler use heavy duty oil, so that is proof itself why it is better to use oil.
I think every rider should use whatever they think is best. (Even if they are wrong) This TH-cam video shows how I’ve been doing it for over 20 motorcycles and 39 years riding. I can’t imagine getting less than 25 thousand miles out of a chain and sprockets, and on a 1200 Bandit I got to 40,000. I have an oiler can like his, but now I prefer to apply the gear oil with a brush as it gets to all the chain parts easily. I just pour a small amount of oil in a container (like a plastic drink cup), brush it on the chain, wipe it down without being too aggressive, and I’m done. If you do use the spray type, position a piece of old cardboard behind the chain so when you spray it doesn’t end up on the wheel, tire, swingarm, etc.
Totally agree. In fact, your quoting of the bike manual was spot on. Most manuals refer the user to a medium/ heavy gear oil for chain lubricant and that works well. I brush it on with a toothbrush being careful not to actually place the same brush back into the bathroom. Lol 😆 But chain lube is yet another unnecessary gimmick to rack up sales when something much simpler is all that is required. My apologies to those who love chain lube in a can.
My thoughts precisely 👍
Nicely explained 💐
Excellent video. common sense really. Ill give it a go.
Long before chain spray became available in the UK, I use a heavy oil made by Castrol from the 1970s to the 1990s. I think it was an SHS3001 oil. I'd wash the chain with an old paint brush using Jizer. Then wipe dry and paint the chain with another paint brush with that Castrol oil. I traveled from Hertfordshire to Glasgow, did some touring around Scotland with an old mate in all weathers. Then three or four days later we'd head home. That Castrol oil was still on the chain when we got home. Pity I can't get access to that oil now as it's only sold in five gallon cans! Safe riding dude 👍...
Have been doing mine the same way , for years as you say easier to clean .
You look like Scot Adkins!!😎😎👍👍👍 thanks pal!
Really it's so simple. Cardboard inside chain standing upright, spray chain lube and spin rear wheel, wipe of excess the 30 mins late do it again. But before this mildly wet a rag with Krosene to clean it. Belray Blue Tac is the best and low fling lube I've ever used.
Yes mate, oil preferably 80 grade gear oil, applied with a brush held against either side of the rear sprocket as the wheel is spun. Fixing a problem created by the manufacturer in response to an idiotic fashion. The cure - a fully enclosed chaincase. Look at 1970's MZ and Jawa. Even the Honda step throughs.
ive been using it for also every bike i owned.. but while traveling i carry Chain Lube in my bag to use it while traveling...especially going offroad
Drill a hole in the chain guard get nylon tube you can feed in the hole , it's best to sit on your bike to see how long the tubing needs to be that you attach to an oil can keep the oil can in your jacket pocket or gaff tape it somewhere or make a bracket so you can lube you chain whilst traveling.
Interesting approach 🤔
Thanks for the idea 👍
I haven't tried it yet but I recon chainsaw chain oil would be better than anything..it has a really sticky consistancy to stop it flying off
Can lube is glue which attracts grit were as oil keeps the chain clean. I used a Scotoiler and never worried about an oily tyre I crancked the drip down to one every 5 mins. Chain was always spotless
As you say, lub. after a ride when the chain is warm. Ryan of Fortnine recommends car gearbox oil, as better anti-fling properties than engine oil. I use a paint pad. They are like a pile carpet, used for painting walls with emulsion. They come in various sizes, around 15X8 cms. There is a track at the back onto which a handle clips. If the pad is cut into three pieces the handle will still fit. The pad can then be charged from a squeezy bottle of oil, goodly amount to the inside of the chain, then lightly charged to do the outside and sides, just to prevent rusting. It's much easier with a mate to turn the wheel. All cloths should be lint free. Glorious day today, have just bee round Loch Ness. Go well.
Did Scotland a few years back. An absolutely amazing ride!
Loved the scenery and the people 👍
@@John_Neves Ridden Inverness, Beauty, Fort William, Forres today. Glorious weather, hundreds of bikes out. Go well.
In the early 1970s, I was told by the dealer mechanic to use diesel fuel to clean the chain. Follow up with thick gear oil for lubrication. During the 70's I don't remember if O rings were used on chains.
Having worked with chains most of my working life (motorcycles, chainsaws and agri/plant equipment) the most cost effective lubricant i've found for motorcycle chain is filtered (run the oil through a paint filter to remove any solids) waste engine oil from said machine as it effectively costs nothing and is "thin" enough to penetrate into the pins & rollers (even on O and X ring chains) and link plates of the chain, finally it is a useful means by which to dispose of the used oil and there is anecdotal evidence that the carbon contaminants (why the oils black) aid in the lubrication.
You're just a scrooge in all fairness, old oil has some nasty toxins dissolved into it, not good if it gets on clothing & paintwork, chainsaw chain oil is very tacky & cheap, used it for yrs, spray chain lube is bullshit, as are O'ring chains, a well cleaned & lubed non O'ring chain will outlast an overpriced O'ring chain any day & it's far cheaper & lighter, causes less sprocket wear too.
I use a Scottoiler that puts oil on the chain automatically. Now that I've replaced the Bandit with a B-King, installing the Scottoiler was the first adjustment.
I use chainsaw oil on my motorcycle chain. It’s thick it doesn’t flick off everywhere. Good enough for a chainsaw chain good enough for my motorcycle. It last for ages, applied with an old toothbrush
I always use gear oil and a tooth brush never lets me down 👍
I use honda gear oil for my chain. Been using it for years. Always had great results!!
When I used to ride dirt bikes I ran across a chain lube that said it was designed from the military or whatever and had a combination of 50 different oils. When I used that on my chain, just before a long poker run in a desert, my buddies also lubed their chains, at when we took our rest stops, my chain was the only one that still looked wet. Theirs were all dry. I was accused of lubing my chain but I did not. Even when the event was over, it didn't look like it needed lube. I don't remember what the name of that stuff was, but it never flung off and never made an oily mess of the bike. If I could find that stuff again, I would always want chain drive, never a belt, maybe never even a drive shaft. No matter how many times one does something wrong, it doesn't mean one knows what they are talking about. Anything other than that spray chain lube was wrong. I just don't remember what it was called.
Been using the spray stuff for years does make a mess of bike wheels... Had new chain last October it's now mid May not one chain adjustment yet cleaned chain twice.. Okay I might give this a go
i find that oil only works if you have a automatic oiler. yes its cheap and works as a luve, but the second you start riding it flings off and you have a dry chain which is noisy. At the same time having these chain sprays, although they stay on, they also stick in between the links full of dust and sand, so probably become twice as bad. Once i replace my chain i will most likely go for an oiler, to drip a few drops as im riding.
Question from a spray can guy. Are you just using like an SAE 30 weight oil? I got some leftover from my lawnmower oil change and was going to try this out! Thanks! 😀
I'll use whatever i have. The heavier the better. If i don't have heavy weight, I'll just mix a lighter oil with grease to make it thicker. 👍
I just used this method & lube, 75w/90 Full Synthetic Gear Oil, applied with a narrow cheap paint brush.
Then lightly wipe excess off outer chain edge with a cloth.
(Chain was nasty dirty, so I used another narrow cheap paintbrush with Kerosene to clean the accumulated grit & old spray lube residue, first.
Kerosene stripped it all off & is kind to the O-rings.
Oil tends to flick off from the chain but stays where it's needed in the bushings the excess that flick off removes the old crud and dirt away with it leaving a relatively clean chain.
because it "flicks" off he is not using oil....dont let him fool you.....he is not using oil but a mixture of 90% grease and 10% oil.....he is even saying that in another video
I ride a harley so it automatically oils my chain, brakes, tires, pegs, shifter, garage, road, & parking place with a nice fresh coating of oil.
🤣🤣
How long does your chain last? How often do you lube it?
I use s100 dry lube and recently replaced mine at 30k km. Pretty average I'd say.
No issues with cleaning, rust or binding.
I apply some on the chain every 500-1000km or so and wipe off the excess with a tissue.
Only issue would be the price, but that's alright.
My Z1000 has 45k on the clock and still has the original drive set. Both sprokets and chain. I don't see it needing replacement any time soon 👍
I use a thin multipurpose lubricant spray from 3M for lube the chain. It goes into the rolls and no dirt sticks on the chain.
I'm new to this and getting my first bike this sunday, looking to ride it a lot. I understand that heavy oil is better than the chain cleaners/lube, and i see you apply oil to a few links and then turn the wheel so it gets all aroun. But what do you use the clean the chain first?
That's great man, have fun and ride defensibly. There are a lot of lunatics on the roads these days 😁
Usually i clean my chain with oil on a cloth like i show in the video. If you want to get it squeaky clean, you can use kerosene or diesel with a chain brush. It will make a mess though... There are also some good chain cleaners on the market. They work well, but are little expensive to buy. They will however last a long time.
I find that oil or wd40 on a cloth works well for me.
Have fun on your new bike 👍
Well I have ordered a new chain today although not an O ring and use muc-off lube and cleaner and hate cleaning the wheel swingarm and hugger. I have now ordered a new little oil can so the wheel will be coming off so the bike can get a good clean and I will see how it goes just using oil. What grade oil do you use.?
i use 140W transmission oil, very viscous, works like a charm. 40w engine oils arent really working well cos they cant bind well.
i've been using Maxima chain was for years, they don't fling all over the place like oil does. make sure to apply it after the ride when chain is warm.
I have only ever used gear oil on my bike chains, since having my 1st bike in 77!
Have you ever tried canned chain lubes e.g. Motul or something similar ?
I use regular wheel bearing grease and have not had to adjust my chains and I don't even clean them but only every 5 thousand kilometers . Makes a mess in my front sprocket cover but not a problem.
Truth from the beginning to the end. In addition : presure between sprocket and chain is enormous so both oil and spray must go left or right from the contact spot. Oil comes back to contact spot ('till its entirely gone ) but I'm not sure about spray.
Your reply is the only one, that makes any sense. Spray will, definately, not come back to the contact spot. I doubt oil will. Unless, cleaning and lubricating after every ride. I bought a new 2017 BMW R1200RT, because I was fed up with chain maintenence. Since 2019, I have serious starting and exhaust flapper valve problems. I have had it with the polite arrogance of BMW dealers, concerning, the above mentioned, world wide, problems. They simply refuse to confirm it. I would like to buy a Kawasaki Versys 1000. Never had any problems with Japanese bikes. If only, for the fucking chain maintenance. Philip de Belder-the Flanders.
Oil tends to attract more dust which in turn increases friction between components, which in turn requires the chain to be cleaned more often. That's what I found out while maintaining my bicycle. On my motorcycle I've been using the chain spray and can confirm that the stuff is difficult to remove while cleaning the chain!
You take a old crappy rag , spray WD40 in the rag and wipe the chain as you turn your wheel !! Tried oil, grease and neither worked worth a damn !!! 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 over 500,000 miles on my 4 Ducati and I believe that I know best !!! 😁😁😁😁🏍🏍🏍🍺🍺🍺
@@artmchugh5644 how often do you apply WD40?
@@nderezic I just spray a couple of times on the rag , works damn good ! Then just reapply the lube !!! 😀😀😀😀🏍🏍🏍🍺
Get a 1l bottle of a dedicated motorcycle chain & drivetrain cleaner and soak both the chain and sprocket, and the rear brake. Rinse. Done.
I have a 2012 suzuki vstrom dl1000, I bought a chain and sprocket set from JT. They recommended 85w90 gear oil to lubricate the chain
One may want to also check the sprocket area for oil flung off and creeping down the engine. It's absolutely sufficient to do this occasionally.
I'd been using Scott Oil on my chain for over 40 k km, automatically applied by the McCoi chain oiler.
Recently switched to API GL5 mineral chain oil and reduced the oil rate so I can go from Germany to Portugal, pedir uma ou duas Sagres sem álcool 🤩 por favor and go back without even refilling the little oil tank (about 120 mil). And the friction reduction is substantial, compared to conventional chain lube.
Sem álcool? Where is the fun in that 🤣🤣
Have a safe journey 👍
Man I swear this is Mr JWW's cousin 😂😂😂
Great tips, thanks for the video.
I wish 🤣🤣
I go for a ride to warm the chain then put the bike on an atv lift and let it idle in 1st gear and wipe the chain with kero or diesel (be very carefull to not get near the sprocket obviously). Wipe dry the kero or diesel and use an 80-90 bottle to drizzle the inside of the chain. Then wipe off the excess off and shut off the bike. Set on the floor and leave a strip of cardboard under the chain to drip off any excess. After the first ride wipe the rear wheel off with dollar store generic lemon furniture polish, it melts gear oil or chainlube instantly. Wheel will stay relatively clean along time and the chain will stay lubed for 500 plus miles.
You're right. DID, one of the primary brands of chain, recommend using gear oil - its tells you so on the packaging.
I find oiling the chain tiresome as I tend to do many kms at a time, and am having too much fun to bother myself with maintenance. Try a chain olier - Scottoilers ard pretty good, but expensive these days. I recommend a TuToRo oiler - they need no electrical or vacuum connection. My chains last three times as long when they're properly lubricated.
If I had a drive chain there is one thing I would like to try. I would like to try diluting tungsten disulfide powder into a bottle of alcohol and then spray the chain. Wait, I just looked it up. Lower Friction has tungsten disulfide spray. Try that as chain lube. I never have, just a suggestion.
yeah thick gearbox oils are perfect for that.... a 140w for differentials works best or if not available a 80w90 or so......
How do you oil the sides of the chain? For rust protection.
I use motul C2 and always had good results.
I use chain saw bar lube apply with a 12mm paint brush..
I have a tutoro oiler system than dispenses 75w-90 oil. Chain stays clean and looking great with nearly zero effort.
What bike and chain manufacturers says (and always was) about chain maintenance?
Gearbox oil, or any high thick motor oil, every 200-300km, and after every rain trip.
I used sometimes chain spray lube, but it's a pain in the ass to clean, catch all the road dirt, and fucks up the chain at the speed of light.
But yes, it's convenient...
Personally, i recycle my motor oil in a DIY automatic oiler. Works pretty well. Easy to clean, good lubrification, and my chain kit live way longer.
For example, my commute bike is a 98's FZS 600, 265.000 km ( yes :] ), and the chain (non O-Ring DiD reinforced, so one of the cheapest) has almost 55.000km.
Tips: i use P18 in my motor oil, so there is literally no wearing due to metal to metal friction.
Oil is the way.
Ive tried proprietary chain lubes of one sort or another at various times in the past....and guess what?...they always fling off to some degree or other despite the claims on the can.
Now use straight 50's oil, VERY sparingly applied every 3/400 miles. This flings off to some degree also, but works fine for me and is easy to wipe down.
What about high speed centrifugal force? A sticky chain spray is made for that, no?
I think a plus of chain spray is that it's not messy when riding, that is, it does not project everywhere. Right?
When you say heavy duty oil, which viscosity do you mean? I guess a 10W40 would make a mess, so perhaps a 80W90?
As the gear oil and motor oil scales are different you just mention approximately the same exact viscosity of oil… food for thought
@@ewetho focus on the question, not the numbers. what viscosity? thick or not?
Clean your chain with a rag damped with paraffin, every 2-300 miles, dry it off with a clean rag, apply gear oil to the inside chain run only, I've done this since the 1970's and my chains easily last 30,000 miles with adjustment only every 4-5000 miles required.
Lol, been doing this for decades! Clean using paraffin and an old paintbrush, then lightly lube using hypoid ep90 chain oil. I dislike waxy modern chain lubes. They attract grit and dirt and actually increase wear. Be careful ti check paraffin doesn’t over soak the chain as it can get past the o rings.
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What heavy duty oil do you use? I’ve been using racing chain lube and it’s made my bike so mucky and thick with black tar 😩
Does oil work fine for dusty conditions vs a wax lube.
I use oil on all my chains, on all conditions 👍
The oil can fling on the wheel unlike sticky chain lube.
So what!?
@@full-gazz-pitbike-kaputt Any dummy knows oils deteriorates rubber for a start. My 50 years in motorcycle mechanics has seen endless problems caused by oil on chains. depends on the bike but always caused damage to other parts. Mostly rubber covers, rubber spacers and some rubber seals. It will also soften the o rings in the chain and shorten the o ring life, although most chains are replaced regularly so its of little consequence to the chain.
That’s the opposite to John’s advice. (I think he is very experienced and knows what he is talking about).
@@full-gazz-pitbike-kaputt It makes you fall off stupid
@@philtucker1224 I work in the motorbike industry and see thousands of customer bikes. I think he has limited experience and he is only expressing his personal opinion.
My 1970 Norton 750 Commando automatically lubricates the chain using crankcase blowby. My 1985 Jawa 350TS automatically lubes it's chain with gear oil that leaks past the drive seal and the chain case keeps dirt and grime off it.
I've been using chainsaw bar oil thinned with a little mineral spirits in a small applicator bottle for years. I apply it to every link from the inside, so the centrifugal force moves the grime out of the links. I think the side plates and rollers need lube no matter how the pins are lubed.
Chainsaw bar oil and automatic gearbox oil mix 50/50, used for years…..sparingly. Occasionally use Gt85 liberally to help wash out the rollers. Bar oil…brilliant stuff.
You're on it Sir, Chainsaw oil doesn't fling odd the chain like engine oil (as recommended here) but don't thin it, if possible apply new oil to the chain after a run wen everything is still warm and apply to the bottom run so as its on the inside of the chain - I also use ep90 gear oil in an oil can and it does make the bike smoother, noticeably!
Anybody who is on top of their chain cleaning and lubrication every 300 or so miles regardless of what chain lube, wax, or oil you use is good 👍 at least they are doing it.
On the other hand I have seen way to many people out on their bike and hasn't ever touched the chain since they day they bought it.
I speed the hell up and get in front of em as I would prefer to not get hit by a flying chain 😂
Stay on top of your chain maintenance folks
Thats quite true 🤣🤣
Eu tenho um óleo de transmissão de carro motul 80w90, será bom a usar na corrente da moto?
Cumprimentos
Serve, Limpe o excesso para não salpicar muito a corrente 👍
Veja tb este video: th-cam.com/video/AwQTIp3J3Oc/w-d-xo.html
good info
Parabéns amigo inglês perfeito, lavar a corrente com jato a preção cuidado pode danificar os o-ring esta a explicar no manual, em relação ao óleo concordo e apenas para nao ser metal com metal, muito boa explicação parabéns! abraço
I live on a gravel drive that has a lot of stone dust that kicks up.
I don't think oil is the type of lube I want to use. It'll attract the dust and I'll have increased wear.
A couple of points. Firstly oil tends to fling, that's why you had to clean your wheel. Secondly, you don't just lube the rollers of the chain. You should also lube the o rings so the rubber does not dry out.
What grade of oil do you use for lubricating the chain @johnneves ?
Just nice and thick.
Maybe this video will help th-cam.com/video/AwQTIp3J3Oc/w-d-xo.html
Accent sounded familiar. When I looked at the shirt i was sure 😁.
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But How will you lube the Chain while traveling?
I mean if the Lube comes in between the trip then how you will Lube them ?
what oil do you use. very helpful video. thank you.👍
Hi there 👋
Info is in the video. As heavy as you can find 👍
EP90 gear oil, clean chain with parafin/kerosene, I have 2 chain brushes, 1 for cleaning and another for apply and distributing the oil on the inner run only.