2024 Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT | First Ride
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- For 2024 Honda have made some significant upgrades to the Africa Twin. Most notably the front wheel is now 19" inches rather than the more off-road focused 21" There are also increases in torque, redesigned aero and upgraded suspension!
Greg takes the new model out for a spin to find out what its all about!
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Good job Gregorio! Don't worry you get used to riding around talking bollox to yourself 😂👍
We all do that, even when we're not moto vloggers 😂
And he should know, been doing it years 😂
Yes first sign madness opps well am on my sixth and seventh 😊
The DCT on the AT is a revelation if you are aware of all of its functions. For example, press and hold D momentarily to find you can choose from Sport Mode 1, 2, or 3. You may find Sport Mode 2 the optimum (Goldilocks) setting. The gearbox will adapt to your riding style. The purpose of D mode is ideal for long journeys to save fuel, operating in the most economical way. In addition to having paddle shifters, there is a gear lever available that works the gearbox like a quickshifter. The traction/torque control (T) has three levels of intensity, or you can turn it off. There are three levels of wheelie control.... (W), and four engine power levels (P), and three levels of engine braking (EB). Hope this helps. An interesting and enjoyable review, and lovely roads, but many people who review this bike just don't do their homework especially on the DCT!
Whoever walked you around this bike prior to giving it you to test has really let you down by not properly explaining the DCT gearbox. In my experience, with proper explanation, DCT is at least 60% of the AT/ATAS and NT sales at the dealership I work for. We often have people come in to test ride one of these models and the demonstrator is DCT. They say they wouldn't go for the DCT and then come back and buy the DCT as it is just far better for road touring, especially 2 up. I cannot stress how important a thorough explanation is to truly feel what the DCT box offers.
Great video! Cannot wait to have one at the showroom to test myself and see the differences from the outgoing model.
You can change to a lower/higher gear while in auto mode. You dont need to toggle manual mode!
As a AT user, one thing that we dont do is use Standard drive mode. Its just too conservative. Use S1, S2 or S3
As a DCT owner you'll prob have the answer to this: What happens when you hold the rear brake and apply the throttle from a standstill? Are you able to control pulling off any better via clutch-slip & brake or do the clutches just disengage altogether?
@@starfox_wr-45e93 you can control the throttle by holding down the rear brakes. Clutch does not disengage
@@Phalgun27 thanks
The more time you spend with the Honda DCT the more you'll understand it, It's actually a super versatile transmission i never thought id enjoy riding a 'Automatic Motorcycle' but its simply superb at what it is.
Nice video, well put over. Why would anyone unsubscribe...??? A change is as good as a rest. Good job 👍🏍️👍
Good review Greg, one thing it does show is how important a really good long ride on a DCT is.
I can say that as an owner of 2 Crosstourer. I test riode a DCT before I bought my first one. 1/2 hour ride, hated it and ordered a manual. 3 years down the line and after a lot of conversations with owners and a 3 hr ride I bought the DCT, for me the better bike. It is definitely a system that takes time to dial into. I believe the AT had 3 sport modes and you can use the manual change while in a DCT mode.
Yes I can confirm it's brilliant on a long day's ride out. I found S1 to be almost perfect
Lovely to see a quality presenter on the channel for once, nice work Greg - and I'm 100% with you on the AT DCT, I got to ride one of these bikes for a short while a couple of weeks ago alongside a fella who worked for Honda and we both commented on the same thing, felt like a scooter with the clutch slipping when you pull away.....really odd because the DCT on my GoldWing doesn't feel like that at all and always selects the right gear for the job - wonder what they've done to muck it up?? Other than that, I really liked the new bike, especially the lower seat height....I suspect will sell well now the GS is such a minger.
Haha cheeky 😜
Great video Greg, you and Chops make this channel what it is 👍
Thanks Mark 👍
For a comparison yes
Great! Gregorio solo. This will work quite well substituting Gregorio for Chops for a review or two. Keep up the good work gents👏
Thanks! Will do! 😁👍
Great video well done Greg! I’ve recently ridden DCT and manual versions of the 2024. Manual version wins every time for me. DCT sucks the fun out of riding but I know many love it. I love clutches, rev matching and feeling the connection with the engine. Great bikes though in both guises and the manual version will be my next bike.
I almost never used Drive Mode on my AT DCT. The toggles are available in any mode...no need to go to manual. For that reason, I seldomly went to manual mode. Quick down shifts are are a thumb press away. That's why the Drive Mode short shifting never bothered me...just toggle up or down. I really feel that reviewers should spend more time than usual on this type of bike just to get familiar with it...intuitive for motorcycles is all centered around riders being accustomed to a clutch and shifter, so a paradigm shift is necessary for this bike to be intuitive to anyone. I had the earliest DCT model of AT. If it had CC, like they added a year later, I might still own it. I also like the electronic preload the put on the the Adventure Sports, though the options are a bit much. One really big forte of the DCT is stop and go traffic. Sooooo much more comfortable and easy to stay focused and alert.
Gregorio for the win!! Job well done Sir!!
good vid, but you should get more detailed information for the settings of the AFAS (engine brake, ridind modes...)
Great job Greg, you’re a natural.
Great job solo! Well done. More please.
Great job gregorio you made it as interesting as possible for the bike your riding, you and lamb chop are a great team 👍👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍
Nice job Gregorio! I thought you did a cracking job mate, a credit to the LCR channel!
Yass Greg, nice to see you "roll the intro".
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Great job mate excellent first time review ride 👍👍
Great looking bike and a fantastic job Gregorio
Gregorio Superio! 👌Great review, looking forward to to the next one! 🍻
Excellent job greg! The channel is working well mr chops.
Great job Greg 👌
Well done Greg. You did great 🎉
Friend bought a DCT next bike was a manual, more control, less weight and cheaper.
Well done Greg !
Great vid. You're a natural 👏
Great review, way to go Greg.👍👍👍👍👍
Road my GS and AT yesterday back to back. GS wins on tar and AT wins on gravel
Nice one Greg. Whilst your style is slightly different to lamb chop I really enjoyed your video. I’d happily watch more of your reviews.
What Chops is having a day off! Great video Greg 👍
Really enjoyed that and some very useful info. In fact I’m thinking you might have saved me quite a lot of money. Sláinte! 👌🙏🤗
Nicely done Gregorio.
Greg flying solo!! TMF will be proud 😂
Wow Greg great vid! I don’t think people understand the difficulty in getting cameras and mics to work. I don’t think the comments mentioned that gravel mode allows you to fine tune the throttle response. YES display complicated but you can set things individually like engine braking more than a gold wing because the Africa twin goes off-road. YES people knock the DCT but it is an “option” albeit a cool one to have. If you bought a Porsche would you get a manual or PDK? My father would roll over in his grave if I chose a PDK but if he was alive he would appreciate how good a dual clutch transmission has become.
Nice first solo run Greg 👍 not sure if l I would ever like an auto bike , I was surprised the Africa twin is so heavy.! ? But good stuff mate .you'll soon get used to talking to yourself , first sign of madness my old granny used to say 😮😮 maybe that's why chopsy is so good at it 😁😁😁 👍
I have dct on my africa twin. You can hit the up and down button at any time even in D or Sport. So, in D if I'm wanting more RPM's I just use my thumb to drop a gear. then again when in sport I will use my index finger to up a gear or two. It will fairly quickly try to get to its gear but on the instant it will go up or down with just a button.
@2:48 yep that’s because it is .
Honda gave a name to it so it would sound good. It’s just a 60+yr old semi automatic transmission . One centrifugal drive clutch and one shifter clutch.
Good film Greg much better than the other bloke.
I used to have one of these you need to do a long term review to get to know the DCT.
At 8.25 min. I thought: you've got humor.
Probably more than Lamb Chop but he has other qualities. 😁👏🏻
First, we lost manual gearbox in cars and had to live with boring automatic ones. Now it is the turn for bikes. What a pitty. I miss my 6 speed manual mini cooper D.
Great vid Gregorio, thanks!
Hi Greg flying solo on this 1 ? good job every bit as good as John don't tell him he he, ATB Wayne..........
Thank you for posting. The going uphill shifting with the AT, reminds me of autos with automatic transmissions. Living in a mountainous area, I prefer my bikes/cars with manuals.
Wow, chopsy has lost a few pounds 😂 Nice work, Greg.
A few 😂😂😂😂
I do like a DCT in a car, I’m on my second in a Polo GTi and it’s brilliant. Flappy paddles for when you want to play on the lanes and full auto for round town and motorways. I’m just not sure about it on a bike, like Greg said I think I’d prefer the control of a clutch. Riding a bike is more engaging than driving a car and the gears are part of that engagement.
That said, I’d love to try a bike with DCT, but I suspect you’d need more time than the usual half hour test ride to get used to it enough to form a proper opinion.
Great review though Greg, nice to see Chops let you out on your own! 👍
The DCT is the best thing that’s happened to motorcycles since the invention of the wheel!
Great vid,you can deffo do some more videos on your own m8t 👏😎
I drove a rental 2024 model (manual shift) in Spain the first week of march. The engine, gearbox and handling are good, no complaints. You mentioned the overload of information on the dash. I totally agree. The electronics are are overly complicated and the Android auto/Apple car play has to many connection issues. Aside from that it takes ages to connect. The whole startup procedure looks like a pre flight procedure on an aircraft. In that sense Honda has some homework to do. As for the seat/saddle : to hard an to narrow.
If you down shift and let off the throttle you will not feel it engage because the clutch is engaged. Keep the throttle open when down shifting otherwise it will feel like it’s in neutral.
I just cant be doing with the weight of these things and would have me looking for smaller bikes.. Great first solo review sir!
Yes I have to agree, they are ok on the move but getting in & out of the garage etc etc is a pain. Then add all the luggage, no thanks.
Actually with the 19" it does bring the centre of gravity down over the old version. But yes big bikes
Great Job mate 👍
If you're an experienced m'cyclist, do you REALLY need a £1.4k autobox? Isn't playing with the clutch part of the essence of riding?
Yes..couldn’t put it better myself.👍🏻
It's a shame Greg didn't watch & learn modes / tech from other videos on this AT DCT version to understand how to use it properly and get the best from the DCT before making this content.
Nice one Gregorio, feels like the DCT is a premium price, but not necessarily a premium bike in comparison to the competition.
Great review!
Great vid, nice one Greg!
Good work Greg great first solo review 👍
Nice additional reviewer
Gregorio is like the Yin to your Yang. He’s a great addition to the channel and he’s doing something most of us would struggle to do, by riding and talking so everyone understands what he’s saying. The only thing I would mention is I’m not sure whether he liked the DCT? 😂👍🏻
Thanks Shaun, it's not easy when you know 1000's of people will end up watching it. He did very well considering he's not done many solo reviews before 👏
Awesome job gregorio! Yes your not as confident on the video as Chopsie but my god you’ve done a great video
Fantastic job Gregorio for a first time that was excellent, I’ve test drove the ect I hatted it ,I was on a trip with Teapotone a few years ago and there’s a mode in the menu that improves it no end . If I got one it would still be a manual transmission for me . A thing I’ve thought of a few times is you have it for say 3 years on pcp then you buy another brand do you keep stalling because you’ve forgotten you have a clutch again just saying lol . I for one look forward to more Gregorio tests 🎉🎉👍
To wheelie, you have to put W to 0, or the 6 way imu will cut power when it feels the wheel coming up! Honda tech suggested put the htsc and W to 0, power on 1 bar, to get full power!
Great for bikers without a left foot and on a cruiser/tourer like the Goldwing but give me a manual box every time. The big change is that 19" front wheel for those that won't be going off-road on their adventure bike.
I was looking at one of these , not now
nice one, well presented Greg. 👍
I'd definitely go for the manual transmission version.
Also, I hope there's a way to mod the indicators to work as normal - only when indicating!
You don’t have to toggle between auto and manual to use the shifters. You can use them to override them the auto at any time.
A really good review.
Isn’t it DCT only this year for the adventure sports? I just looked it up. Oh wow, I thought it was nvm lol.
Great video mate, you will do Chopsy proud. My only gripe is with the DCT model, and why Honda is pushing so aggressively the TH-cam community to test ride this variant. If I wanted a scooter I will get one and it will be a lot lighter 😂
Good vid Greg. Chops your sacked 😂
the more you ride it , the more the dct adaptes your riding style, but anyways that's why i own an manual 🙂
Not bad for a first time Greg.👍
Well done Video Gregorio. As an atas owner I wanted to share with you, there are modes in sport that are more useable on the road like s2 or s1.. as other viewers have said in the comments when you are in drive mode you just have to push the minus button when going through a corner so that you don’t have to experience the false neutral experience around the corner. It will drop the gears even when you are in automatic mode. Lastly you should watch some videos by Brett Tkacs, where he teaches that you use the break when pulling away from a stop. You use the rear brake like a clutch to hold the bike and release the bike like you would with a clutch on a manual version. Doing so brings back all confidence of driving a bike with a clutch, while you actually have a Dct. I practice this now 90% of the time, and it has given me complete control over the DCT order, especially under slow speed riding. Try it out you will like it. Great video and thanks for the review, from a 2021 ATAS owner.
Always liked the Africa twin,considering im not a fan of twin cylinder bikes, don't like the switch cluster left hand side a bit over the top too bulky ,
Nice review 👏 👍
The DCT is excellent. Just gotta know what you’re doing.
I really enjoyed this vid. Another dynamic with Greg sailing solo which keeps the content interesting, and he did a good job 🤜🤛Other (bigger) channels do it so why not LCR. Considering I just paid £14.5k for a SAS with tech pack, I recon the Honda is waaaay over priced. Each to their own though
Thanks Kevin 👍
Excellent job Greg.Thks.
I owned one of the earlier "new" Africa Twins with DCT. In the test rides I quite liked the DCT but in subsequent ownership I found it really wasn't for me. It's very clever, works well most of the time and it certainly makes longer journeys a bit more relaxing but for me and my requirements of a recreational machine I think if you have a decent quick-shifter/auto-blipper then I have the optimum solution. All IMHO of course before the DCT mafia descends on me. The bike itself was OK but I never quite trusted the front for some reason being a relatively top heavy bike with a 21" front wheel - so I switched to a smaller wheeled "manual". I suspect the 19" front might help these Adventure Sport versions but for me there are other bikes I want to try.
I would add that , this dct gearbox have is own brain , so after little wild if you keep riding and changing gears for speeds you like then gear box will learn and will give you gear you would usually be in , saying all that i had dct and sold it !much better to have manual with good quick shiftfter like triumph tiger 1200 , i don't see honda selling lots of this. don't see point 19 inch front wheel aswell , i think honda shoot it's self in leg with this one !....good video man !
That's very cleaver didn't know that 👍
Nice review Greg, and remember kids... KTM is #1
Love listening to Gregorio! 👍
Good job Greg! 👊🏻
😮❤. You are the luckiest man in the world ❤❤❤
He did chop’s a good turn. Great video. Roll on the next one
Thanks 👍
sport 2 is best in auto and you can still use flapey padels
I don't see the point of DCT on this type of bike. Nice review Gregorio!
Good review, dude. Chopsie’s channel would do well for you to fill in every so often!
First class review Sir, I do not see any advantage in having a DCT gearbox, what with the extra weight and cost. Would far rather put the £1200 in the petrol tank.
Gregorio you’ve completely covered my thoughts on DCT.. very good for relaxed tour but not quite right when you want to get a move on..
Nice Episode Greg & a pleasant change to Lamb Chops dulcet tones! Only Joking LCR. DCT Gearbox seems a little floored off-road, Mr Vida struggled in Morocco when he got stuck in the middle of nowhere.
Nailing this Greg 👍🏻😎
The Africa twins have always been a good looking bike, DCT for touring might be ok, but offroading I think it could get in the way. Great vid Greg
Put it in manual mode and ride the rear brake
It’s stunning off road DCT beats everything
As Keith says below, this bike should come with training manual, when off-road you should put it in manual mode and ride the rear brake. It actually has more control than a manual bike off road, once you learn this
Well done Greg , great to hear your opinion on the DCT box . Sounds like it still needs some tweaking. On cars the number of gears as standard seems to be 8 , I wonder if that would work better on a bike too ?. As you and com mentioned to long or to high. The bike looks good and comfortable. Look forward to the next video on this bike. Thanks
great review mate you'll do...change the intro music but...
Gregorio, great review. The keyboard warriors below have the benefit of having experience with this bike. You offer a nice review of a first experience with the bike which is useful, certainly for me. Keep up the excellent work.
Honda need to up the power light weights catching up.
Some commentators have said of the DCT system that to control the bike properly one needs to manipulate the rear brake and throttle simultaneously. Really? Trying to go forward and trying not to go forward at the same time? Is this why I failed my O Level Physics?
They don't know what they are talking about. Plus this new model has a remap of the dct and is much better due to the new six axis stuff. Everyone I see banging on dct clearly hasn't done miles on one it is next gen and all bikes will be like this in the next decade one way or another
I’ve not had a go on a AT DCT, but I had a go on a NC750X DCT, and felt the same way as you! I can see the advantages for commuting but otherwise a manual is much more involving 😊