Players You Forgot Were Elite! | Episode 1
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- Players You Forgot Were Elite! | Episode 1
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People tend to forget Steven Jackson being the rams all time leading rusher.
Put him on an actual winning team and the man is easily a 1st ballot Hall of Famer
If he didnt play for all those shitty rams teams and actually had playoff wins he's easily in the hall of fame
I remember him at Oregon State lol
literally 8 straight seasons with over 1k yards and nobody talked about it
@alexhennigh5242 agreed he came to that team at the wrong time. The Rams were one of the best teams before he arrived and a few years after he left they had a great team again
Ahman Green is another incredible Packers player that people forget existed.
He was like 113 yards short of a 2000 yard season, but no one seems to remember him.
Him and Fred Taylor are disgustingly underrated.
Add Roger Craig to that list too
Fred needs in the HoF asap
Michael Turner on the Falcons and Chargers
It was the same year that Jamal Lewis (another kinda underrated RB) got 2k yards so no one ever talks about Ahman Green that year. He had 1883 rushing yards and almost 400 recieving yards. Green was a hell of a back from an era of awesome RBs
Fred Taylor was a baller. Green had a few really good seasons. 2 diff class.
Awesome idea for a video series. The Hall of Very Good players deserve their recognition, many of them played on a HoF level for portions of their careers!
Honestly this series feels like a hall of very good
Brunel , MOORE & Jackson should be in The HOF
They had Great career
Jackson on turd teams
Moore with the worst QB’s possible and He still set records
Moore was So Dope
Jimmy Smith needs more love, he was truly elite but often gets overlooked because he played in Moss/T.O/Harrison era.
Seriously. He was very productive
Legend!! He used to run his routes at night time.
Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman linebacker duo for the 49ers was so lethal and fun to watch
that entire defense was insane. Offense too. Crazy they never won championships
Complete utter dominance i always skipped playing them in Madden 😂
Pat Willis, Navarro Bowman, Aldon Smith and Ahmad Brooks. I’ve always said that’s the best linebacker lineup of all time.
Imagine if injuries and early retirements didn’t screw over those Harbaugh Niners. So much talent gone to waste
@@tomato2517Imagine if Aldon Smith would have gotten himself together instead of throwing his career away due to off field incidents
Little known fact about Jessie Tuggle: his son is Grady Jarrett who has been a perennial pro bowler for the Falcons, surprised that wasn’t mentioned
Grady Jarrett is his son? That's cool.
Wow! I didn't know that!
Wooow i always wondered why nobody mentioned Jessie Tuggle, to know Grady Jarret is his son is crazy
Considering his dad’s pedigree, I was surprised GJ lasted until the fifth round (or thereabouts).
Did not know that. Pretty crazy that he ended up with the Falcons.
To whoever witnessed Seahawks-49ers 2010-2020 rivalry........we were so lucky to see the last of great defense omg Bowman was a dawg an animal
It was the most heated I’ve felt a rivalry. Fans hated each other, players hated each other, even the damn coaches hated each other. We lost more than we won but damn it was a good time. Most the time is ended with the most ridiculous Russell Wilson plays where he runs around for 12 seconds and throws a 50 yard bomb while the circus music plays. That’s guy made me the maddest I’ve ever been at a football game many times. It got ridiculous and he did it to everyone for a 4 year span.
@@markmiranda9461I'm so glad we caused you that much pain, mam I hate the niners. Hope the rivalry continues for many years it's awesome
@@markmiranda9461 as a seahawks fan that was living in niner country, can confirm….. 😂😂😂 - feel like there was more gas to our 2010s rivalry than any other in the league that era by far
As a Niners fan living in cowgirl country watching it with nothing but cowgirl fans that game still stings cause Bowman recovered a fumble then got injured during that play by Dashon Goldson reckless ass if I'm not mistaken which led to a hawks player literally taking the ball from Bowman while he was laying on the ground smh
That play caused a rule change that same off-season
Mark Brunell was an elite quarterback in the late 90s in Jacksonville, and was also pretty nifty as a runner
4 straight playoffs, 3 straight pro bowls
Yeah I liked brunell he was lefty mobile
Fred Taylor was also elite
Back when the Packers were the backup QB factory of the NFL
@@carlosduarte4181 Those Jaguars were loaded with elite offensive talent. Brunell, Fred Taylor, Jimmy Smith, Keenan McCardell...James Stewart was pretty good too.
Bowman was so beast that after suffering from the injury that ultimately cut his career short he came back and led the league in tackles. His knee couldn't hold up anymore after that, but he truly gave the niners all he had left. He'll always be legend here in thr Bay Area
Hope to see Bob Sanders in the next episode. I was a little kid when i first remember watching his highlights. I grew up a Patriots fan and naturally disliked the Colts, but that man was a true missle on the field and its a shame what injuries did to his career.
Bro sameeee lol!
There was a time when there wasn't a more valuable player in the league. That's because the way he played at his size led to so many injuries. Without him it was a completely different defense
Well got your wish! 😂
The "He did what?" call for Freeman will forever be iconic
It’s wild Corey Dillion never made an all pro team, in 2004 he was on the best team in the league and had 1600 rushing yards and 12 touchdowns, also has 290 yards in 3 playoff games
Believe it or not Curtis Martin, Shaun Alexander, Ladanian Tomlinson and Tiki Barber all had arguably better seasons than him. Probably the greatest RB season ever. Edgerin James and Clinton Portis were also in their prime and had great seasons.
Now Imagine Thurman Thomas's entire career shadowed by Barry and Emmitt.
Best RB the Pats had in the dynasty era
And his nephew currently plays in Green Bay and wears the same number
@@canubeetquadnobody forgot Dillion was elite tho🤷♂️
@@canubeetquadhe still led the league in YPG and won a SB in 2004. He could have gotten an AP nod in 2004 and no one would really have a reason to be upset about it. Tiki and Alexander were NFC anyway.
0:00 - Steven Jackson - Rams RB
2:01- Ben Coates - Patriots TE
3:35 - Herman Moore - Lions WR
5:19 - Corey Dillon - Bengals RB
7:04 - Jessie Tuggle - Falcons LB
8:35 - Roy Green - Cardinals WR
10:14 - Mark Brunell - Jacksonville QB
12:09 - Dexter Manley - Washington DL
14:08 - Antonio Freeman - Packers WR
15:45 - Navorro Bowman - 49ers LB
17:20 - Terry Allen - Vikings/Washington RB
19:01 - Wes Chandler - Saints/Chargers RB
20:38 - Randy Gradishar - Broncos LB
21:33 - Brandon Lloyd - 49ers/Broncos WR
23:08 - Pat Swilling - Saints LB
24:45 - Ricky Waters - Eagles/49ers/Seahawks RB
26:57 - Patrick Surtain - Dolphins/Chiefs CB
28:51 - Lorenzo Neal - Saints/Chargers FB
30:55 - Ken Anderson - Bengals QB
32:32 - Justin Smith - 49ers DL
34:00 - Curt Warner - Seahawks RB
35:29 - Eric Allen - Saints/Eagles/Raiders CB
36:40 - Wayne Ghrebet - Jets WR
38:04 - Al Baker - Lions DL
Wes Chandler is a WR
God bless the people who take the time to do this. God bless you
I love how like half of these guys were in the same version of Madden I had as a kid
Thx bud 🤙🏻
Mark brunell was that guy
Anytime throwback posts is a damn good day
Usually it means someones dawg got they teef beet right out they mouf son
Mark Brunell, Jimmy Smith, Keenan McCardell, Fred Taylor. That whole Jags team was full of underrated players.
And the only guy from that Jaguar era to make the HOF, Tony Boselli
@@Riles3152IKR, the HOF is a joke.
I love the ‘Almost but not quite hall of fame’ guys , lots of what ifs !
Other dominant guys during the 90's that aren't talked about enough are Chris Warren, Leslie O'Neal, Wayne Martin, Tony Richardson, Larry Centers, Sam Gash, Kevin Carter, Chris Spielman, Michael Dean Perry, Bruce Armstrong, Richmond Webb, Karl Mecklenburg, Shane Conlan, Rob Moore...
Yea i think you're reaching a bit with some of these guys
Tony Richardson was the man. Best FB I've seen apart from Mike Alstott
People really forget about Larry Centers, even tho he was listed as a FB he was a WR in my mind isnt he still the only “FB” with 100 receptions in season. Chris Spielman was an excellent MLB in Detroit, the problem was in played in Detroit and he was still good even when he went to the Bills. Kevin Carter was a major part of those championship Rams teams, Leslie O’Neal was a great DE playing with guys like Junior Seau and Rodney Harrison. Karl Mecklenburg was a key part of the Denver Broncos whose defense was always in the top ten. Tony Richardson was a staple in KC. Chris Warren was a top ten RB. These dudes was dominant (or the very least known dudes in the league who made plays and were game planned for) in their own right.
@@canubeetquadhe's not reaching on none of these guys, all these guys he named were really good NFL players and some had great seasons. Stop being a contrarian.
Leslie O'Neal is like 10 on the all time sack list too I believe
This is a great series! I hope you guys will be very dedicated about it. Some thoughts on some of the players on here:
Ben "Winter" Coates: I loved watching that guy playing back in the day. He was a very physical but talented pass receiving TE. When you think of the Drew Bledsoe era Coates is one of the guys you immediately think of.
Herman Moore: A really good player however he's probably the poster boy for "stats accumulator". In fact the Lions receiving corps of his era are probably the biggest example of that.
Corey Dillon: For years it seemed he was the ONLY weapon Cincy had. He was basically their entire offense for far too long to the point that by the end he was showing the wear and tear of being used up. At least he got his ring in NE. I really hope his tiff with the fans in Cincy doesn't last too long in regards to being named to the Bengals ring of honor.
Jesse Tuggle: A very physical and fun player to watch and someone who really gave it his all. His son was also a great contributor in the CFL winning a Grey Cup with the Argos in 2017.
Roy Green: Now there's a guy who's totally under the radar. He doesn't get mentioned much at all these days.
Mark Brunell: Now there was a guy who was a really good QB for a number of years. I always felt he was slept on even in his prime. The big upset in the '96 playoffs against the Broncos was a real shocker.
Antonio Freeman: Man that guy made so many great catches and that MNF catch is in my top 5 greatest catches ever.
Terry Allen: Holy crap! You really dug around for this one. Even in his day he was very underrated. You look at his stats and think "Wait, he did that?!".
Wes Chandler: He was sort of the forgotten man in that offense at times and that allowed him to put up the HUGE numbers he did in SD. I've heard some say he was the most physically gifted guy in that WR group.
Randy Gradishar: Why isn't he in the HOF?
Pat Swilling: That man was one of the most FEARED defensive players in the league for a time.
Rickey Watters: A guy who should be in the HOF by now but he never played the media game and was often at odds with his teams AND said media. He was in some ways the RB equivalent to Brett Favre in that he played a very emotional intense style of ball.
Lorenzo Neal: Man you guys are doing such a great job with this first episode. Neal was just a HAMMER out of the backfield and was one of the better blockers around.
Curt Warner: A steady and productive back. He was the PERFECT guy for Chuck Knox's "Ground Chuck" offense in Seattle.
Eric Allen: That guy played the game like his life depended on it. His lack of stature led to him being picked on at times but be wary of that as he'd make you PAY eventually.
Wayne Chrebet: I've always said that he was the NFL version of the CFL's Ben Cahoon. They were of similar stature and style of play in their respective leagues.
Big Bubba Baker: I've heard him interviewed on a podcast. He seems like such a humble and great guy. He isn't even all that bitter about not getting the sack record but he IS confused why the NFL won't recognize his achievement after the sack totals was confirmed by football researchers.
I know this was a super long comment. Next time i'll have to be more judicious. This is a GREAT series so far.
If the NFL had begun counting sacks as an official statistic 5 years sooner then they did, great defensive players like Bubba Baker, and Jacob Green(drafted by Seattle in 1980 and played there for 13 seasons) would likely be in the HOF right now.
Ricky Watters was a great player, and an offensive contributor but IMHO, if you were to ask him now, he'd probably say he made a mistake leaving SB XXIX champs Niners for Eagles via FA after the 1994 season. Although he prospered in Philly his first two seasons, the media there often accused Watters of being selfish, self-centered, and overly brash, and as T.O. found a decade later, that doesn't work as a sound, player PR strategy for Eagles fans and Philadelphia sports MSM. Sometimes, Watters could come across as aloof, arrogant, and cocky and didnt always exert 100% on every offensive play (see his alligator-arming a sure 3rd and long pass down the middle pass vs Tampa in Week 2 or 3 of the 1995 season). When asked by media afterwards why he didnt try harder to catch a 3rd down pass that wouldve extended a late drive that mightve led to Eagles winning the game, Watters replied, "For Whom? For What?"
After that post-game early season snafu, most Eagles fans, teammates, assistants and writers never forgot, forgave his snide, flippant comments. Waters had a far better, likely more enjoyable career with S.F. and Seattle, he's remembered with a lot more fondness, appreciation there. Watters, again, if he do it all over again, wouldve stayed with 49ers instead of chasing more money via FA, I think he wouldve ended being a lot happier.
They sort of inferred this when they brought up his entry on this anthology, but Curt Warner tearing his ACL in Week 1 of 1984 season likely cut out 3-4 years from his career. Even though he returned and some excellent seasons from 1985-89, one could tell he wasnt the same dynamic, duel-purpose RB he'd been in his rookie 1983 season. Playing in one of the moat difficult, then-hazardous, hard artificial turf surfaces in old Kingdome prevented him from having an Eric Dickerson HOF-caliber career, because even when he returned in 1985, he hardly ever got injured again. Warner would've played possibly as long as Dickerson did if not for his ACL injury and Seattle wouldn't dropped out of playoff contention by the early 90's if he'd remained and Dave Krieg doesn't get traded to Kansas City.
Wayne Chrebet was the Adam Thielan of his generation.
Also, if Jessie Tuggle had played for a more successful, winning franchise during his very long, 14-year career like Denver, Washington, Philly, I think he'd be at least a likelier HOF candidate than a hit-or-miss borderline one he is now. He was a great, outstanding defensive stalwart that only played on 3 winning teams throughout his career. If you're a great, era-defining position player and you spend your entire career with a losing franchise like Falcons with a losing history, to make the HOF, you'd better make a lot of Pro Bowls, and play for a VERY, VERY long time. Guys like Jeff Van Note and Mike Kern, and also the late Claude Humphrey fall into that category.
They ripped me off. I have a series dedicated to forgotten legends of the game.
@@beauboone5332 yeah true but did u cover these
@@michaelallen8112 I covered Mark Brunell and Ken Anderson.
Lloyd was such an unbelievable athlete. He just had nobody to throw it to him consistently
He hand some of the greatest hands I've ever witnessed, it seemed no matter who covered him he's gonna CATCH it 😂
Apparently people forget Torry Holt was elite because it’s been 8 years and he’s still not in the hall of fame.
he should be in
if there is an episode 2 gotta add Denver's Al Wilson. he was right there with Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher
True. Big three of that era are probably Lewis, Urlacher, and Thomas. For a while though Al Wilson could hang with them.
I haven't watched the whole video yet but Neal Anderson deserves to be on the list, hes overshadowed because he succeeded Walter Payton in Chicago, but he made 4 straight bowls including a season with 1700 total yards one year!
💯. My favourite player of all time
Steven Jackson is probably my favorite player of all time quite honestly. I genuinely believe he would've gotten so much more acclaim if he wasn't on horrible teams year after year. Those Rams teams literally set the league record for lowest win percentage over a five year stretch; and Jackson still managed to get over 10k yards in his career. It's so underrated.
The teams werent bad, it was bonehead coaching and staffing problems. Martz was a solid coach but he had his head in the clouds and only cared about offensive weapons. He could build a team but failed to really utilize it. Big problem was getting rid of kurt warner, and not utilizing jacksons physicality with faulks elusiveness. The greatest show on turf was just easy to read, if faulk lined up its either a short pass or a run outside, if jackson lined up it was a run inside. Their reciever core was getting old with bruce and hakim having less than ideal hands and speed, and slow slot recievers that also struggled to catch. Hard to blame them with marc bulger leading the show, he had a few good moments but iirc he folded in clutch moments which cost a lot of games. They had some defensive weapons at d line, lb, and safety but lacked depth in the corners and didnt have a good d coach to really work em into solid contenders. Seemed like martz relied on player skill just a bit too much.
I started following the rams as a young lad on the tail end of Marshall Faulk's career, and Jackson became my favourite player - hes still probably my favourite player ever. Thankfully I got to see him play in London a couple of times
@@g00gleisgayerthanaids56 Martz was gone and an offensive coordinator for the Lions by the season Jackson took over as lead back in the Rams offense ('06). The years I was essentially referring to were the Scott Linehan and Steve Spagnuolo years. ('06 - '11).
But I do basically agree with what you had to say about Martz and his system. He believed in it too strongly, not willing to accommodate what it ask of the players no matter who it is and what they bring to the table.
@@JoeHardacre Based lad
I see Arian Foster is being quickly forgotten over the past years since he retired and it’s too bad. When he broke in with Houston, he was the best RB in the league instantly. Only played 6 seasons. Was a phenomenal big play RB.
I think he was undrafted too. Such a consistent top tier performer but doesn’t get enough recognition now
If Steven Jackson was on a good team he'd be a HOFer. I'll always think he deserves the nod, even if he did ignore me outside of a hotel when I was 14😂
😭😭😭
Yeah, he was only with the rams as a fringe good team that 04’ season. Since then not really on any good teams other than his final season with the pats, but even then, it was limited action since he signed late with the team. He was a stud for sure!
@@mariosnum1fan absolutely. He was that good DISPITE the team he was on
@@EricStuder1989 ☝️
Erik McMillan with the jets was an amazing free safety. His rookie year saw him intercept 8 passes, including 3 in 1 game vs dan marino. His first 4 years saw him snag 22 balls, 5 of which were ran back for tds. He won defensive rookie of the year in 1988, and made the pro bowl twice, on jets teams that weren't what you would call "good"
They ripped me off!
@beauboone5332 agreed. I love your video on kenny anderson, Beau. You take in-depth looks at things. You did it first
Was literally watching Brandon Lloyd highlights not even an hour before this was uploaded 😂
He made some great plays but he was never elite
What highlights? His porn videotape highlights? I heard he was hangin' some low beef out there... even Hill Dawg (chillary Clinton) is rumored to be in on it.
@@Wutang3737his catching was elite one of favorite wide receiver of all time
@@Wutang3737he has the most elite hands ever 👐🏾 👐🏾 👐🏾
Those are also Wu hands btw
Wu-Tang Forever 💪🏾
@@Wutang3737 hating ass mentality
Great spotlight on these players. Man Ben Coates was so good. Same with Brent Jones, and Jay Novacek during the 90's. Another tight end that is sadly forgotten about is Steve Jordan, father of Cam Jordan. Steve had an awesome career for the Vikings.
Ben Coates was awesome. Imagine him and Gronk on the field together for the Patriots. Now that’s unfair to the opposition.
I always loved Steven Jackson as a kid, him and Michael Turner
HE DID WHAT!? Is one of my favorite reactions from a commentator and their “OHHHHHHH” when they saw he caught it makes that play so much better. Also Neal should be in the hall him and alsttott truly deserves it not only we’re they the last two true fullbacks but they were great we often overrate the last of everything but the last two FBs were actually just great put them both in the hall
Mike Alstott and Lorenzo Neal in the same backfield was unfair to their opponents
Yea Al Michaels call there was the greatest football call of all time imo, and that’s saying something. Maybe one of the best in American sports
can we please get some tim brown career highlights??? i feel like people have forgotten how great he truly was.
Because most people who watch football weren’t alive lol. A true great. I’d love to have a Time Machine and see how these guys would fair in todays game.
As a jets fans some other guys I would like to see.
Ken O’Brien
Freeman McNeil
Thomas Jones
Wesley Walker
Emerson Boozer
Al Toon
Laverneaus Coles
Santana Moss
George Sauer
Aaron Glenn
Victor Green
Kyle Clifton
John Abraham
David Harris
Mo Lewis
Not sure how many of these guys are considered elite but I think a few could be worth considering
@@markmiranda9461I think older players would thrive in todays league due to the rule changes imagine Dan Marino passing in todays game.
That dudes college highlights are crazy
Last Heisman winner for Notre Dame. Truly one of the wr greats.
I'm pretty sure despite the fact of being on teams that were successful being productive and elite the only reason Ricky Waters wasn't put in the hall of fame was the for who for what quote instead of his actual ability
This was a great idea for a series and it’s off to a nice start with this list! Love to see Herman moore, Ben Coates, brunell and Dexter Manley mentioned
if steven jackson played for quite literally any other team he would be talked about as much as someone like corey dillon
nvm corey dillons in this video too 😭
Power backs are a dying breed, they were a rare sight even at the height of jacksons career, people dont talk about em because they generally arent as exciting as elusive backs with speed and fancy moves. They also tend to have a lot more carries for their yardage with smaller yard per carry averages which makes them stand out less when comparing stats. Plus, there just arent that many st louis rams fans anymore, cant blame em after they lost their team. Its a shame, i loved watching power runners like jackson and alstott run people over.
It's hard for me, to forget most of these players, they left such an impression on the field that I'll never forget.
YESSSSS, this is how you preserve these men in history. Not hall of famers, but legends none the less.
Nice to see Bowman get some love
Hold on JUSTIN TUCK CHASED LT DOWN WITH NEAL BLOCKING......DAMMIT HE NEED TO BE ON LIST!!!!!
This is “ if you actually watch football, then you know about and how good these players were” type of video.
These players deserves their flowers as well.
I'm so glad you showed Navarro Bowman TACKLING Roddy white on that play. That's why I laughed my butt off when they started crying about that "no call" in the Super Bowl. EFF THEM!
whoever thought of this series idea deserves a raise
Great idea 💡 for series!!! So many classic players that deserve some love!!
As a Ravens fan, I remember getting Terry Allen who was well past his prime and had the impossible task of replacing Jamal. Despite his physical limitations, he still showed great vision and patience and racked up a handful of 100 yard games including one in the playoffs. Solid player.
Steven Jackson in my opinion is the most underrated runningback in the history of the NFL. I was a St. Louis Rams fan and what people may not realize is that the offense literally ran through Steven Jackson all those years. Unfortunately because he played on terrible teams his entire time there, his accomplishments went largely unnoticed and he doesn't get the credit he deserves.
Andre Johnson was an absolute beast for Houston
It's a shame that Steven Jackson was on a bad team his whole career. That man was a monster on the field! We never got to see him on a playoff team(with the exception of 2004)...which was a shame. I wish he could've gotten out of St.Louis.
He did play for the Patriots for a year or two but he was as far best his best then
The rams were a good team, but the everchanging coaching staff and bonehead decision making really cut the legs out from under those boys. They never should have let warner go, they should have had jackson line up in fb for faulk and to add some nuance to the play calling. I get that faulk was old, injured, and on his way out, but he was still a threat and having an elusive back lining up behind a guy that runs over your linebackers can make defenses think twice and give your offense a lot of options. Had solid talent in the reciever core with bruce and holt. They lacked a solid defense, like they ran out of budget securing the offense so they got a few star players to try and do it all or just enough (often not even coming close). Martz built an amazing offense easily one of the best in the league, but had a piss poor defense. I mean, even bulger managed to look decent at times just because of all the weapons he had at his disposal.
The niners from 2012-2013 with those two all pro MLB’s was truly the greatest MLB duo of all time. They use knock the snot out of guys but we’re amazing in pass protection. I miss those guys. Pat willis is the reason I started loving football (especially defense) because of him. Great player, even better person. He will be a HOFer and he will not wait as long as long as Thomas of the dolphins. It was 8 years but DROY, 6 all pros, and 8 pro bowls, a ridiculous amount of FF’s and int’s for how long he played. Him and Luke Keckley have identical stats and both need to be in.
Pat Willis, Navarro Bowman, Aldon Smith and Ahmad Brooks. Insane talent at linebacker, imo the best linebacker core of all time
I bet not forget Steven Jackson. Followed him since he played at Oregon State.
I don't think anyone forgot Steven Jackson was elite lol.
The NFC West I thinks been on a higher pedestal in recent years. But for much of his prime, the West was argued to be a weaker division that had "lucky" entrants to the playoffs and SB and wasn't taken nearly as seriously, and his teams followed the Greatest Show on Turf. I think sadly give it a few more years, and people may not even understand he played in St Louis. To me it is easy to not forget he was a quality runner especially with whats happening to the position, but I grew up watching the NFC West so I'm a bit biased.
Patrick Sustain was one of the best by far. He made that MIA secondary elite.
He was also great for the chiefs for a few seasons
@@slimischillin7753 Not really like he was in MIA.
@@PACNYY he was great, the chiefs were just mid and didn't have the most national exposure. But those of us who watched every game know he was still great. Up until we got brandon flowers, Pat Surtain had the best technique that I've ever seen a chiefs db have up to that point. Also in Miami, he played with Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas. He didn't have a great pass rush when he was in kc. He mostly relied all on technique and intelligence when he was here.
@@slimischillin7753 Without him MIA defense wouldn't be complete. He was just ok in KC nothing special.
@@PACNYY yeah we just simply disagree on his time in kc and that's fine
The NFC East had Dexter Manly, Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White all at the same time in their prime. Must've been a nightmare to be a tackle on the Cardinals in that era
Outstanding idea for a series! Can't wait for episode 2. So many unrecognized greats! Chrebet, Lloyd and Green. Glad they're not forgotten. And look at Brunell as a dual threat -- what was old is now new again!
Excellent concept for a series. Lots of guys who were dominant for a short period of time, but couldn't sustain it. And vice versa who were solid for a very long time, but never really dominant. Some suggestions for next episode:
Russ Francis
Dave Butz
Rod Smith
Ottis Anderson
Kris Jenkins
Billy Simms
Derrick Mason
Fred Taylor
Charles Mann
Chris McAlister
Karl Mecklenburg
Mark Gastineau
Gast did make the hall of fame though so I don’t think he should be on this list anymore
The fact Derrick Mason is the all time leading receiver for 2 different teams but almost no one remembers him is criminal.
@@SolidPain6624you mean Klecko? Gast in canton
Surtain like father like son 😊
As a niners fan Brandon Lloyd was my dude back in the day. He doesnt get enough credit. Great hands..good speed..could separate easily from defenders. Nice video.
Brandon Lloyd had unbelievable catch radius and possibly the best hands out of any receiver in history!
There's no forgetting these boys.
Awesome list of players
Brunell was so much fun to watch. Basically Steve Young-lite, and at times he played just as well as the 49er QB.
The NFL talent pool was so deep during the 90s and 00s.
Couldn't agree more
@@traxyboyzn-jn8hx the college football talent pool was deep too. Insanely deep
Lowkey, Tuggle should be in canton
Yep.
Clicked instantly! Great vid to watch before going away !
I'm glad these players were brought to light again. I never forgot these guys but it has been awhile since I've seen some highlights!
I remember that 91' season the Saints had Vaughan Johnson, Sam Mills, Pat Swilling, Rickey Jackson, and Renaldo Turnball. It's a wonder how any offense beat them that year lead by Dom Capers coaching the secondary and Vic Fangio coaching LBs!
You need to put Roman Gabriel (‘69 MVP) in your next video!
Still waiting on that Randall Cunningham career highlight
Love this series already! Keep 'em coming!
I loved this, Lloyd was one of my favs back then, I remember tryin to emulate him playin football in the neighborhood haha
Robert Mathis for the next episode 🤞
He’s gonna be in the hof don’t worry
@@ArenaPhoenixhighly doubt it
@@king_supreme1102 wym he’s like top 10 all time in sacks I believe
@@ArenaPhoenixwasn’t elite enough for any stretch of his career. Also overshadowed by Freeney who will make it to the Hall soon. Also nobody talks about him. He’s a Ring of Honor guy, not a Hall of Fame guy.
Brandon Lloyd the best hands ever.. from a niners fan and we had Jerry, T.O and even Randy got a year but B.Lloyd was beyond automatic
Pasta and nfl throwback. My favorite lunchtime combo😆
Anytime throwback posts is a damn good day. The "He did what?" call for Freeman will forever be iconic.
Really? Brunell and Anderson and you thought I wouldn’t notice? Pathetic. I created the forgotten legends series.
Challenge accepted
So many of my favorites! Especially excited about Brunell and Neal.
I miss bruising fullbacks and dominant running games
Me too Allstott was as good as it gets an then the poor man's version Peyton hillis lol remember him 😂
Those guys are outstanding yet forgotten. Now they all be remembered.
Very cool to learn about these forgotten players. Makes me wonder who in today's game will be forgotten, hopefully no one but it's inevitable.
Definitely need more of these! Love the video!
Antonio Freeman absolutely clutch in the playoffs. Ricky Watters had SF kept him probably is in HOF
Very enjoyable. Thanks for sharing. Great memories.
Great video! Some player suggestions to cover for the next one:
Charlie Conerly
John Brodie
Roman Gabriel
George Rogers
Stephen Davis
Fred Taylor
Jimmy Smith
Torry Holt
Henry Ellard
Irving Fryar
Joe Jacoby
Randy Cross
Nick Mangold
Eric Metcalf
LC Greenwood
Jerome Brown
Bryce Paup
Clay Matthews Sr
Troy Vincent
Charles Tillman
Darren Woodson
Lawyer Milloy
Gary Anderson
Shane Lechler
Steve Tasker
Billy Kilmer would be one to remember. He's not ever gonna be in play for the Hall of Fame. And he had some ugly passes. But he brought wins and respectability alongside George Allen back to the DC organization. Plus I think young fans would be surprised to see film of him as a QB he's like a jalopy.
Steven Jackson became the Rams all-time leading rushing leader in team history. Ben Coates was an elite tight end who had excellent hands and was everything a tight end should be. Herman Moore was an all-time leading receiver leader in Lions history. Corey Dillon was an elite powerful runner who set an NFL record for most rushing yards in a single game with 278 as a Bengals. Jessie Tuggle was “The Hammer” as a hard hitting linebacker who is originally from Griffin, Georgia who played his entire career with the hometown Falcons. Mark Brunell was a left-handed quarterback who was a great pocket passer who led Jaguars into 4 straight playoff appearances and 2 AFC Championship games. Antonio Freeman had one of the most memorable catch against the Vikings and he won a Super Bowl during his short NFL career. Navarro Bowman was a hard hitting linebacker who retired too soon after 8 seasons. Terry Allen was an outstanding running back who can make defenders miss with his cutback style. Brandon Lloyd was a great wideout during his era. Pat Swilling was an outstanding linebacker who had the most sacks during his career. Ricky Watters was a fuel runner who runs the ball with his speed and had excellent hands to outrun opponents. Patrick Surtain, Sr. was a shutdown corner who was an interception machine, so he played along with his former Dolphins teammates and current Hall of Famers Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor; moreover, Patrick Sr. son Patrick Jr. plays the same position as his father as a cornerback with the Broncos. Lorenzo Neal was a beast as a fullback who played 16 seasons with different teams. Ken Anderson was a Cincinnati Bengals quarterback during his time in the NFL as he was an time leader in team history with total passing yards and total wins. Curt Warner was a great running back as he runs the ball with passion and played all 8 seasons with the Seahawks. Eric Allen had 4 interceptions for touchdowns in a single season and 5 interceptions with different teams. Wayne Chrebet was a New Jersey native who spent his entire 11 seasons with the New York Jets and was undrafted out of Hofstra. Mane…how can all of you guys forget about them? Y’all must forgot how good they were in their prime!!!
I can't believe Ricky Waters is not in the HoF. One of the best RBs of my childhood.
Big fan of this series. Love to see some great players get some attention
Glad to see Herman Moore get a little love.
This was awesome! A lot of great players in this video.
Missed watching the LB duo of Bowman and Willis
They were both monsters back in the day
This is a very important video. It’s become cool among today’s fans to think that if someone (or a team even) from the past isn’t elite, “they’re trash” or something. I love being able to reflect on guys like these players.
I remember Ben Coates was super underrated in Madden back in the day. He was unstoppable.
He played D2 believe it or not. I've been to a few of his Alma maters games.
Great Job!!! This was well done, and I enjoyed it.
Patrick surtain, Brock Marion and Sam Madison were such killer secondary players for Miami back in the day. Shame of how those dolphins teams never got it done
Love this concept great content as always
Steven Jackson should be in the Hall of Fame and if he played in a bigger market or on teams that weren't winning less than 4 games a season, it wouldn't even be a question.
He was a big dude who could do anything you needed in the run game AND he could catch!! The list of dual threat power backs is pretty short.
I really enjoy this series it is really cool. Shining a light on some forgotton players who deserve to be remembered. Ernest Givens is my honorable mention.
Great list idea and Great video such great memories of these wonderful players and Jessie Tuggle and Navarro Bowman wow were they hitters; Justin Smith was the definition of ironman and boy Al "Bubba" Baker wow can't wait for the next list lol keep it going and great job guys
Thank you for making me feel very very old and I'm in my late 30s Herman Moore and he was my second favorite wide receiver in the 90s favorite one was Andre Reed and Jim Kelly was told that Andre was Favorite player
Ben Coates was my favorite player as a pats fan growing up in the 90s
Steven Jackson & Corey Dillion were my boys on madden for the rushing drills
Let’s go I love hearing about forgotten legends
Love seeing Antonio freeman get some love. Still my favorite Packers receiver