1000% on this. I got started on Morello's "Table of Time" somewhere in the 80s and will never stop practicing. And over the years, have been adding new things as a simulated "slow accelerando" (eighths, 5:2, triplets, 7:2, 16ths, 9:2, quintuplets, etc) or jumping from subdivisions.
There are 2 things that I´ve added to the concept that are game changing. The first is to play the quarter note with your hihat foot and the second one is to SING the quarter note. Obviously the best is to combine both, so the pulse is the main focus. Also is very important to bring in musical form into the exercise, so I´ve tried using a 12 bar blues form and playing a different subdivision every 4 bars. I want my practice to make me a better MUSICIAN, not just a better drummer. Great content! Thanks!
@@AngelWest58 Yes we are! But sometimes we get too focused on playing drums and not so much on playing MUSIC. A lot of my students are better drummers than they are musicians, meaning that they have great command of the instrument but lack a deep knowledge of the music they are playing (form, chord changes, melody, lyrics). Having great technique makes you a great drummer, connecting that technique to the music makes you a great musician. Practicing rudiments while singing or humming a blues is one way to build that connection! Being a great drummer does not automatically make you a great musician! Peace!
@@peacegroove7854 word! Im a pianist. i will pass this comment on to my drummer friend. The singing angle is new to me (w drum practice) ...I'm 66.. I've been playing for over 50 years.. About 10 years ago I returned to fundamental practice (scales, Arpeggios ect) and it changed everything. I'm now a veritable beast compared to what i was for most of my career/ life... KEEP GOING kid!
This is absolutely amazing. Guitars musician of 30 years here and aspiring drummer of about 3 months. The quarters coming out of the triplets has felt like a tongue twister for me and I've been starting to get it. I'm now on the part where you incorporate the kit into the exercise and it has completely unlocked my practicing. This is truly so damn helpful. Thank you so much!!
Wow, I feel like my phone is spying on me. I just started doing this again within the last few weeks. I use University as a mnemonic for 5s and Gina Lolabrigida for 7s. My biggest issue (particularly in odd groupings) is NOT accenting the downbeat. Thanks for the video. Being able to shift through your gears is important.
Nice! Just for anyone reading your comment just want to clarify that groupings of 5s and 7s are different than the quintuplets and septuplets referenced here.
This is really great. Never done the quints or seps as I just cant get my brain around them, but I go up and down the standard subdivisions with single strokes on the hat keeping a backbeat, whilst playing different figures on the kick. Then I swap lead hands with a diddle, but keep the singles. After a bit I trade between singles and paradiddles swapping lead hands every 8 bars, ensuring that I practice swapping lead hands on the paradiddles. At faster tempos I swap the single 16th trips and 32nd notes for paradiddles and doubles respectively. Just this one exercise could fill my practice time forever - and in comparison to the depth Guiliana is mining, I'm probably putting way too much into it. What I like about it is that because of the backbeat it feels musically relevant and applicable to real world scenarios
Matt Cameron used this musically (as he's prone to) in an early Skin Yard song called "The Blind Leading The Blind". It's on their first album, a total tour de force showcasing Matt's chops and creativity not too far before Soundgarden, as well as the new Skin Yard 7" "SELECT" box set. Great drummer and great band! Great video as well, Cole! And please continue to talk as much or as little as you care to. Part of the process of learning is knowing when to STF down and STF up. The player that becomes the virtuoso instrumentalist never gets halfway up the mountain of becoming an actual musician because they are doing nothing more than regurgitating hot licks that they don't understand, ultimately just setting off fireworks for the cheap seats. They, as a music practitioner, will never understand or declare what they will and won't do. More importantly, why they pursue music in the first place. Just another shredder talking loud and saying nothing. The most catalytic drum lesson I ever took was with Billy Ward decades back. He never picked up a pair of sticks the whole time. He just discussed ergonomics and concepts and, knowing full well he just kicked my ass, told me to get back with him in a few months after I had time to wrap my head around what he had just said.
Love Cole's videos! These exercises are also presented on pages 42 and 43 of Joe Morello's Master Studios. Joe calls them the Table of Time. There is also an updated, more difficult version of these exercises on page 71 in Master Studies II. I was a student of Joe's for ten years and cannot emphasize enough how these exercises will improve your time keeping along with expanding your drumming vocabulary. Thanks, Cole!
Love this video mate! Great great great stuff and I LOVE the Mark Guliana story! Got some of those as well from other drummers where you are just stunned by the 'simplicity' of the things that are most important.
Any time exercise is great. The key for me is to really pay attention to the precise distance between the notes. I use more of the Mark G routines, on the surface really basic, but a true 8th note is hard to play. I think humans have a limit around 20ms, great if someone can confirm or deny that.
Bear in mind that 8th notes are relative to the tempo. 20ms is definitely noticeable. I actually ran an experiment on this channel and found that things started really sounding off at 10ms for me personally.
I’ve added a similar subdivision routine to my practices about a year ago, and it’s been a tremendous help. Interesting mic set up. Those mounted toms sound incredible!
Something my cousin showed me was what he called the triplet tree...similar concept. Start with hand-to-hand, then go to single hand, then RRL/LLR, then RLL/LRR, then RLR/LRL, then R-R/L-L [standard shuffle pattern] then back down. So, you get all kinds of triplet feels into you hands. 😂 I did this enough that I sometimes have to think very consciously about playing straight time...'cause swung is where my hands want to go naturally.
Very cool. I just started looking at subdivisions a lot more. 32nds are cool. I'm more interested in quintuplets and septuplets. Btw, Mark Guiliana's drum book with the DROP concept (Dynamics, Rate, Orchestration, Phrasing) is worth exploring. A drummer of any style can come out of that much stronger. Last thing: I really liked what you did with the sextuplets. I felt like I saw RLL a few times, and when the kick came in it made it sound groovier.
helps w stone killer too. 8 all the way to 16s. at the start its less abt your hands n more abt melting ur brains sure but - you dont have to change the click up that much as often haha.. Good video man.
Thanks! It's always a little different, but I do have a video on this channel on how I set up snares that should help. It also doesn't hurt that this is one of my newest snares, a Brady that sound absolutely killer.
Great explanation! I graduated from a music conservatory over twenty years ago, and one of my teachers introduced me to a similar exercise. I still practice it to rhis day. He called it The Mother. 😂 Seems to be very similar to what you’re breaking down here. Great work, great channel! #subscribed th-cam.com/video/4rT2WEnlvP0/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Step 1-10, take lessons with/listen to Mark Guiliana. Got it. Step 11, realise this knowledge is almost 100 years old and it's all we're ever doing anyway. Step 100: realise you don't have to play on grids, but they're useful tools.
@coleparamore Thank you for sharing this, as its something I introduce all my students to when they are ready. It is so vital, and your video explains it well and gives extra vote of confidence that I’m teaching something valuable my drum students. You’re doing great on your videos, well done and helpful!
1000% on this. I got started on Morello's "Table of Time" somewhere in the 80s and will never stop practicing. And over the years, have been adding new things as a simulated "slow accelerando" (eighths, 5:2, triplets, 7:2, 16ths, 9:2, quintuplets, etc) or jumping from subdivisions.
This sounds like Chinese 😂😂 to me please explain further
There are 2 things that I´ve added to the concept that are game changing. The first is to play the quarter note with your hihat foot and the second one is to SING the quarter note. Obviously the best is to combine both, so the pulse is the main focus. Also is very important to bring in musical form into the exercise, so I´ve tried using a 12 bar blues form and playing a different subdivision every 4 bars. I want my practice to make me a better MUSICIAN, not just a better drummer. Great content! Thanks!
More Cowbell !!!
drummers are musicians too!
@@AngelWest58 Yes we are! But sometimes we get too focused on playing drums and not so much on playing MUSIC. A lot of my students are better drummers than they are musicians, meaning that they have great command of the instrument but lack a deep knowledge of the music they are playing (form, chord changes, melody, lyrics). Having great technique makes you a great drummer, connecting that technique to the music makes you a great musician. Practicing rudiments while singing or humming a blues is one way to build that connection! Being a great drummer does not automatically make you a great musician! Peace!
@@peacegroove7854 word! Im a pianist. i will pass this comment on to my drummer friend. The singing angle is new to me (w drum practice) ...I'm 66.. I've been playing for over 50 years.. About 10 years ago I returned to fundamental practice (scales, Arpeggios ect) and it changed everything. I'm now a veritable beast compared to what i was for most of my career/ life... KEEP GOING kid!
This was the first exercise my drum teacher got me doing when I was a kid,,along with double stroke rolls
This is absolutely amazing. Guitars musician of 30 years here and aspiring drummer of about 3 months. The quarters coming out of the triplets has felt like a tongue twister for me and I've been starting to get it. I'm now on the part where you incorporate the kit into the exercise and it has completely unlocked my practicing. This is truly so damn helpful. Thank you so much!!
I'm so glad to hear that, thanks for watching!
I do this on double kick all the time in addition to hands. Very very useful.
Absolutely fundamental no matter at what level you are. Love it.
A great exercise. Like what you shared.
Really great idea, been practicing this for some days now and already hearing improvements in my playing. Gonna add it to my daily exercises.
Wow, I feel like my phone is spying on me. I just started doing this again within the last few weeks. I use University as a mnemonic for 5s and Gina Lolabrigida for 7s. My biggest issue (particularly in odd groupings) is NOT accenting the downbeat. Thanks for the video. Being able to shift through your gears is important.
Nice! Just for anyone reading your comment just want to clarify that groupings of 5s and 7s are different than the quintuplets and septuplets referenced here.
This is really great. Never done the quints or seps as I just cant get my brain around them, but I go up and down the standard subdivisions with single strokes on the hat keeping a backbeat, whilst playing different figures on the kick.
Then I swap lead hands with a diddle, but keep the singles. After a bit I trade between singles and paradiddles swapping lead hands every 8 bars, ensuring that I practice swapping lead hands on the paradiddles. At faster tempos I swap the single 16th trips and 32nd notes for paradiddles and doubles respectively.
Just this one exercise could fill my practice time forever - and in comparison to the depth Guiliana is mining, I'm probably putting way too much into it.
What I like about it is that because of the backbeat it feels musically relevant and applicable to real world scenarios
This is a great video! Thank you, Cole!
Well done! Very helpful
Great lesson! The best lessons are ones that are simplistic (Not easy, but simple in idea).
Great concept and well explained. This may be the most useful practice concept I will ever implement on my practice routine. Thank You!!
Thanks for the kind words!
Matt Cameron used this musically (as he's prone to) in an early Skin Yard song called "The Blind Leading The Blind". It's on their first album, a total tour de force showcasing Matt's chops and creativity not too far before Soundgarden, as well as the new Skin Yard 7" "SELECT" box set. Great drummer and great band!
Great video as well, Cole! And please continue to talk as much or as little as you care to. Part of the process of learning is knowing when to STF down and STF up. The player that becomes the virtuoso instrumentalist never gets halfway up the mountain of becoming an actual musician because they are doing nothing more than regurgitating hot licks that they don't understand, ultimately just setting off fireworks for the cheap seats. They, as a music practitioner, will never understand or declare what they will and won't do. More importantly, why they pursue music in the first place. Just another shredder talking loud and saying nothing.
The most catalytic drum lesson I ever took was with Billy Ward decades back. He never picked up a pair of sticks the whole time. He just discussed ergonomics and concepts and, knowing full well he just kicked my ass, told me to get back with him in a few months after I had time to wrap my head around what he had just said.
Love Cole's videos! These exercises are also presented on pages 42 and 43 of Joe Morello's Master Studios. Joe calls them the Table of Time. There is also an updated, more difficult version of these exercises on page 71 in Master Studies II. I was a student of Joe's for ten years and cannot emphasize enough how these exercises will improve your time keeping along with expanding your drumming vocabulary. Thanks, Cole!
Love this video mate! Great great great stuff and I LOVE the Mark Guliana story! Got some of those as well from other drummers where you are just stunned by the 'simplicity' of the things that are most important.
Any time exercise is great. The key for me is to really pay attention to the precise distance between the notes. I use more of the Mark G routines, on the surface really basic, but a true 8th note is hard to play. I think humans have a limit around 20ms, great if someone can confirm or deny that.
Bear in mind that 8th notes are relative to the tempo. 20ms is definitely noticeable. I actually ran an experiment on this channel and found that things started really sounding off at 10ms for me personally.
I’ve added a similar subdivision routine to my practices about a year ago, and it’s been a tremendous help. Interesting mic set up. Those mounted toms sound incredible!
Very good video. Mike Mangini talks about it doing this with uneven subdivisions 3-19 in his rhythm knowledge books. They are great exercises.
Thanks Cole!
Spot on! This is the foundation of everything.
Good premise for a series of videos
Really good lesson.
Something my cousin showed me was what he called the triplet tree...similar concept. Start with hand-to-hand, then go to single hand, then RRL/LLR, then RLL/LRR, then RLR/LRL, then R-R/L-L [standard shuffle pattern] then back down.
So, you get all kinds of triplet feels into you hands. 😂 I did this enough that I sometimes have to think very consciously about playing straight time...'cause swung is where my hands want to go naturally.
Interesting! I haven't seen that before and sounds like a great one.
Been doing something similar since I heard Danny Carey play 'The Grudge'
💡wow ! Thank you 🙏
Love it, waiting for the next lesson
Thank you!
This is like Joe Morello's Table of Time from Master Studies....which i should revisit.
Yes I will take this thank you 💛
Do also, the 5's, 7's, 9's, 10's etc.
Yep! Those are addressed here.
Bang On!
1st triplets are always a bit rushed.. Great video!
Very cool. I just started looking at subdivisions a lot more. 32nds are cool. I'm more interested in quintuplets and septuplets.
Btw, Mark Guiliana's drum book with the DROP concept (Dynamics, Rate, Orchestration, Phrasing) is worth exploring. A drummer of any style can come out of that much stronger.
Last thing: I really liked what you did with the sextuplets. I felt like I saw RLL a few times, and when the kick came in it made it sound groovier.
Yep, the DROP method was primarily what we focused on.
I haven't really tried 1/8 notes triplets much. When I did I found it really difficult to play over a 1/8 or 1/4 note click.
SUBDIVISIONS...in the high school halls, in the shopping malls, conform or be cast out!
I got more than a few looks working on these in the high school halls lol.
helps w stone killer too. 8 all the way to 16s. at the start its less abt your hands n more abt melting ur brains sure but - you dont have to change the click up that much as often haha.. Good video man.
love it thanks
Nice!
Nice snare sound.
How did you tune it without the help of mufflers?
How did you get it?
Thanks! It's always a little different, but I do have a video on this channel on how I set up snares that should help. It also doesn't hurt that this is one of my newest snares, a Brady that sound absolutely killer.
nice
Who won the dial tune snare?🥁
Daynethedrummer!
Good idea using paramore in your name . that's a 101 on how to hit the algos on youtube
Thank my parents
Great explanation! I graduated from a music conservatory over twenty years ago, and one of my teachers introduced me to a similar exercise. I still practice it to rhis day. He called it The Mother. 😂 Seems to be very similar to what you’re breaking down here. Great work, great channel! #subscribed th-cam.com/video/4rT2WEnlvP0/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Drumming at its core is nothing but subdividing. Everything else you’ll ever learn is simply an application of subdividing.
I will do eet
just like major scales
This is massive. MASSIVE! 😀👉🏼🥁🤷🏻♂️
😮🎉❤
Step 1-10, take lessons with/listen to Mark Guiliana. Got it.
Step 11, realise this knowledge is almost 100 years old and it's all we're ever doing anyway.
Step 100: realise you don't have to play on grids, but they're useful tools.
U talk to much ❤
What a depressing intro.
@coleparamore Thank you for sharing this, as its something I introduce all my students to when they are ready. It is so vital, and your video explains it well and gives extra vote of confidence that I’m teaching something valuable my drum students. You’re doing great on your videos, well done and helpful!