3 BODY PROBLEM Season 1 Episode 1 "Countdown" First Time Watching Reaction/Review
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Great reaction video! 😊. FYI, the machine that Vera Ye jumped into the pool of water, that machine is a neutrino detector. The picture of the machine where Vera’s shadow walk across is the particle accelerator.
The Dr. who committed suicide at the beginning, he didn't write all that with out eyeballs. He only wrote, "I still see it" with out eyeballs. Everything before that, he wrote before he cut out his eyes.
I like when reactors got the general knowledge of everything that is happening in the show.
"A secret shopper, but for the government." What an incredible analogy.
Just finished the season yesterday. It was phenomenal 🔥
indeed. as a book reader and fan, i have to say they did an amazing job with this adaption.
This pace of this season is like a version of The Expanse where they got to the Blue Falcon at the end of episode 4.
The initial writing plan has been to tell the story in 4 seasons, which I think means they may need to slow down some. For a *much* slower (but more artful) experience, the Chinese version (Three-Body, 2023) tells book one in 30 full-length episodes!
yeah, but 15 episodes were fillers and very silly additions. And the whole thing was censored a lot.
Where can one watch the Chinese Three Body show? I definitely wouldn't complain about being able to watch two separate adaptations about books I really love.
@@LadyBeyondTheWall you find it all for free on youtube.
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@@LadyBeyondTheWall search wetv three body
@@LadyBeyondTheWallit's on youtube, th-cam.com/play/PLDWJ213d2Ucr-3q9LDF9P1_j3Rr3GMJeS.html&si=TrxMZkL40KFlXGVL haven't checked whether it has eng sub. I gave up after a few episodes. The acting was good, but the story telling style lacks the tension.
Book Da Shi is actually called "Shi Qiang", Shi being his last name. Da Shi is just a nick name. Da means "Big", it's usually used for someone older than you and almost exclusively used for older male.
Do they even call him Da Shi in the show?
@@manzell His name is Clarence in the show, so nope
@@danielrodrigues4903 Clarence Shi, but I'm not sure they ever used the surname. (Chinese names have the surname first, so Shi is his surname in the books.)
glad i found you, guys. really excited to follow this journey with you.
The guy didn't give Ye Wenjie up. He lacked the courage to admit what he did.
I think in the books it was a setup and he was part of it.
@@W1ngSMCYeah, I'm pretty sure. I was waiting for that to happen but it didn't go that way - as far as we know I guess. Looks like they're changing lots of things around, but they'd have to, really.
I mean, they figured out he had the book, then he took them to Ye Winjie. He gave her up!
@W1ngSMC
Was the opening scene of "cultural revolution" in the book too ?
Were something added that wasn't told in the book ?
@@W1ngSMC It wasn’t a setup in the books. He was just afraid and when confronted he put the blame on Ye Wenjie. There’s a portion in the books where they explain he is even a member of some “radical” anti government type group and he even puts that on Ye Wenjie as well, saying she convinced him to join or something like that. He was just a straight coward.
I just ended this season 5 minutes ago ! Now gonna watch y’alls reactions. But let me tell y’all this show is so fascinating good, but also emotion in a way! At the end I had no tears left 😂🫣
The 3 Body Problem is a real thing. that Mathematicians and Physicists are working on.
and also the fact that Alpha Centauri is a triple solar system
great reaction, love it, keep going plz
It's an awesome show and an even more awesome reaction. Keep going.
In both the book and the Tencent series, Wang Miao is the central character, alongside Da Shi and Ye Wenjie, with Mike Evans appearing toward the end of the 30-episode arc. Netflix opted to switch Wang Miao's character to Augustina “Auggie” Salazar, and some of his interactions with the ETO, which are not named in this version, were given to Jin Cheng. Moreover, the Tencent series omitted the brutality of Ye Wenjie’s father due to CCP censorship, and her experience in the labor camp was extended without the aspect of her betrayal through sleeping with him. Instead, she was turned in for her handwritten letters, which he had manipulated her into writing. Regarding the VR headset, I'm unsure of its depiction in the book as I haven't read it, but the Tencent series features a contemporary device with an online invite-only system to play the game hosted by the ETO, whereas Netflix showcases alien technology. Additionally, Netflix rushes through the dense material with numerous bullet points.
In the books the game isn’t invite only. Anyone can play it as long as they have the proper VR gear, but you need to know the specific web address to get to it, which isn’t too well known.
I think Netflix did a great job so far in the adaptation. This season has elements of all 3 books but it makes sense for them to be here. It’s things that happened during this time frame we just didn’t learn about them in the books until later.
I think the tencent versions was practically a “pure” adaption with very minimal changes but to make a great show they should have skimmed some things down. 30 episodes was too much in my opinion, I think the proper number for it would be like 15 episodes.
My views as a reader of the books, seen all of tencent adaption and all of Netflix adaptation.
Tencent censored the whole "young wenjie" part. I a sense the core story is closer to the books in the netflix show.
In the books, the game can be found online I believe. And instead of just a headset, there's a whole body suit deal so you can feel more that way, like heat, cold, etc. Rather than it just being only felt by brain manipulation with the headset like in the Netflix series. I haven't seen the tencent one yet, but the game system itself sounds kind of closer to the book. I really need to figure out how to watch the tencent version. But so far, I'm also really happy with Netflix's version. Some characters are a bit different. Some genders have been switched. Some races have been switched. Since it's not all taking part in China in the show though, those changes make sense.
@@LadyBeyondTheWall Tencent TH-cam Channel has the first three episodes for free (with English subtitles), and the rest are paid. There is another channel used to offer the entire series for free. Still, since Netflix released its version, this second channel was re-uploaded as an “anniversary edition.” It started charging for views except for the first three episodes as well, but without English subtitles.
@@LadyBeyondTheWall The tencent version is on TH-cam. That’s where I watched it.
The Cultural Revolution (CR) in China lasted from 1966 to 1976 (when Mao died). The People’s Republic of China was declared in 1949, so the CR started 17 years later, after many failed or disappointing attempts to move the nation foward. The stated goal of the CR was to eliminate the last remnants of what was thought to be Capitalism in Red China. It was a very chaotic time and ideological purity was a driving force. Also, Mao had been a bit ‘sidelined’ and many believe that this was a means for Mao to purge the party and use his unpredictability to keep firm control over the country. One of the features of the CR was a rejection of many Western ideas; modern physics, western political thought, and western art/literature were always targets. The theories of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics were often under fire by some very left or right leaning regimes even outside of China. One was never sure what ideas would be attacked next, so you could be fine one day and an outlaw the next. After Mao’s death, the CCP began to open the country up and China became what we see today. The kind of humiliation and violence depicted in the show did happen often. For those of us in the outside world, looking in, it was very difficult to know what was going on and what it meant.
GPCR is the actual name .... with emphasis on the word Proletarian .
Also It was anything but organized, it was basically student militias acting out their petty grievances (or in few cases genuine grievances) I've not met a single communist who defends the CR and it's excesses
You guys done with propaganda against china. Let me educate you without communism humanity was doomed by west fascist nazi. Doing propaganda against communisms 247 by hollyhood cuz we defeated fascism in your capital. Whole world was waiting for freedom from fascist west but After defeat in ww2 west still cant giveup fascism and imperialism.
Sitting around the table are all good friends who were undergrads together.
for the characters. they do exist in the books, some of them are mixed and characters changed to appeal apart from the Tencent’s version. but these characters do exist in the book series.
what confused me was that there was a convenient neutrino detector right next to the particle accelerator for Vera drop into. Usually you build the former deep inside mountains to shield it from any interference
Yeah, the Oxford Particle Accelerator doesn't actually exist, and the neutrino detector Vera jumps into is actually located in Japan.
@@arconreef The Oxford Particle Accelerator does exist! Your right with the neutrino detector tho.
@@franzfrikadelli6074 There is a particle accelerator in the UK, but it has a different name, and I think it's location is misrepresented in the show.
@@arconreef the one from the show is real, yes. "but actually located.." ;)
Guys this is great reaction and discussion! Cant wait for the next episode
Interested to see what you think. I read the books, and I really liked the Tencent adapttaion but wasn't keen on the changes made for Netfilx. The Chinese version gve me a feeling of existential dread. This one didn't. Personal taste maybe.
I dont understand why ppl like the tencent show so much. Its very disrespectful to the story with all the censorship and the very silly additions. At leat 1/3 of the tencent show is just made up stuff. imo, they made a mockery of the books.
My man name drops Existenz!! Awesome film.
Excited to start another show with you guys! I did the books and the show. Significant differences.
It’s a shame the show did not do full justice to imo the most important and interesting character, Ye Wenjie. It feels very rushed that none of the characters and circumstances that influenced her decision, the biggest decision in human history, had any real depth.
Glad to be back to the channel. I haven't finished it yet, but what I've seen of the show is very good.
The part about the Cultural Revolution really happened. Not even fellow party members were immune. It was like our current Culture War, except if the people screaming "woke!" or "Nazi!" actually had state-sanctioned power to kill you.
The people shouting "WOKE!" do have state sanctioned power, and it is only a matter of time before they are able to exorcise that power to kill you.
the first question I have is solely based on every possible movie ever made, horror or Sci-Fi or otherwise ... you're seeing a timer counting down .. and for more than a day, even amongst friends in a scientific drinking circle, you're not saying something to them that "I see something" ... its like horror trope #1 never saying anything ALWAYS goes badly .. I'm so frustrated that so many don't add this or try to cover the whats and whys of this key pivotal thing .. why didn't you say something IMMEDIATELY! ???
I get what you're saying, but I think in some circumstances, it makes sense. Plenty of people don't say anything for a little bit if they're experiencing something weird. Even to family and close friends. Sometimes you don't want people to think you're crazy. Other times you could be worried people won't believe you. Or if it's a physical ailment, sometimes you don't say anything to not worry people. It sounds irrational, but it's something that happens so incredibly frequently in real life that I understand when it also happens in a tv show.
His * nickname * is Da Shi in the books not his name. And he has the same nickname in the show.
Existenz is a Cronenberg movie!?!? It felt so... low rent for the late 90s.
The Communist Uprising and Cultural Revolution were 2 different things that happened 20 years apart from each other.
Basically, after Mao's industrial policies failed horrifically, he was removed from power for a bit. However he then had a resurgence in popularity within cities by declaring that China was being held back from its true communist goals by old remnants of capitalism and imperial tradition, so he got students and children to revolt against most social systems and that allowed him to retake control. (This included attacking historical sites, religious sites, former imperial supporters, and yes, western educated intellectuals and Chinese universities) China was basically economically and educationally crippled for ~20 years after the fact, cause they killed most of the people who dealt with finances and most of the nation's teachers/scientists.
Several Chinese leaders after the fact have outright said it was the most useless and wasteful period in the entirety of Chinese history.
Im on episode 2 and still confused abt the show ...
I can't do the VR stuff. I get motion sickness from them. It is caused because my brain can't reconcile that my eyes are giving me different motion information than my ear's so my brain interprets this as being poisoned, so it tries to make me vomit to get the poison out.
The characters don't exist in the books... They've split aspects of Wang Miao into multiple characters to tell the story...
no, they didnt. And you would know it if you read more then book one ;)
@@franzfrikadelli6074 okay yeah after watching all the episodes, i get what you mean... It's more like character overlaps, which is a bit confusing at the beginning as it was just one character doing all the stuff in books...
@@SachinJames89 yeah, i kinda think is very smart what they did with the character arcs. :)
I recommend Quinn's deep dive video. He shows nicely, that every show character has a counterpart in the books.
@@franzfrikadelli6074 Lol Quinn's Ideas! That's how I got into the books in first place. Damn! I wished they used similar music as his channel to make the concepts appear more sinister in nature...📡👁️⏱️🎮🛸🤯
@@SachinJames89 yeah i 100% agree. some important scenes lack the appropriate score. The do not answer scene come to mind for example.
Quinn = goat :D
@8:55 as a programmer I hate that line.. you don't debug software by "going through the source code line by line".. and you would *never* rule out a bug. She's basically saying "my software is perfect, no flaws". Anyone who has even been in the same room as a computer knows that's an impossible claim.
as a programmer PhD I loved that line
Yeah I mean I'm shit at programming and gave up figuring it out a long time ago but A: wouldn't there be a whole team of them checking it because those systems have to be running on mountains and mountains of different interconnected programs that took thousands of people to create. It wouldn't be given to some single person. And B: wouldn't they be using some kind of validators to see if checksums changed vs actually going through line by line? That would narrow down changes pretty relatively quickly.
I just assume she meant she went line by line (seeing most of the codebase) in a debugger, following along with the data analysis or something like that. All in all not a terrible line
It's a fun show but the aliens capabilities and willingness to use them vary a ridiculous amount.
Your right, the Sophons got buffed a lot in the show and that creates some plot holes.
Even though communism is twisted and evil, it still can't become a scapegoat for all the problems you are facing. This is simply a matter of logic.