There are some very strange beliefs out there. I recently had interactions with a channel, I think was called ‘michealchurch’ or something similar. I challenged something he said on a video short. I had never come across him before and I had not seen any other videos he had posted. Turns out he’s had his channel for a few years. Anyway, point is, as we got into discussion, which was respectful and wholesome, it became evident that he held some very heretic ideas. Although he was respectful, he was very stubborn, rather arrogant and prideful in his views. He was adamant he was correct and every one else was wrong. Even as it would seem the bible. He is teaching that Jesus, although God, came in the flesh, walk as a man and he had the same Adamic sin in him as man does! That Jesus’ flesh was inherently sinful, but his spirit had no sin and was perfect. He teaches that the Spirit gives us the power to physically, never sin in the flesh. , ever! So you are able to live by the law, follow all the commandments and never break them, never sin, just as Jesus never sinned. So Jesus did not sin, because the spirit empowered him not to sin, although he had the sinful nature that man has. He used the devils temptations as part of his proof texts, because if he had been perfect and sinless then they would not have been real temptations! I was a bit gob smacked at first and it took me a little time to get my head round it. So basically he is saying when you are born again the spirit empowers you not to sin! You perfect the law and are justified! ??? I mean I get the idea that with Christ we do not sin (in the Spirit of course) but in the flesh we most certainly do! Any one who says he is without sin, is a liar and the Father is not in him. To say Jesus was born sinful is perhaps the most heretical view I have ever come across! Oh I gave him so much scripture, chapter and verse, in fact, I was spoiled for choice. But he would have none of it and twisted it all to fit his view and beliefs. Unbelievable, he told me I don’t understand scripture because I don’t pray in tongues? It was the most bizarre conversation I have ever had. Sad thing is that man isn’t even saved. I’ve prayed for him and done everything I can, but in the end I had to shake the dust off my feet.
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There are some very strange beliefs out there.
I recently had interactions with a channel, I think was called ‘michealchurch’ or something similar.
I challenged something he said on a video short. I had never come across him before and I had not seen any other videos he had posted. Turns out he’s had his channel for a few years.
Anyway, point is, as we got into discussion, which was respectful and wholesome, it became evident that he held some very heretic ideas. Although he was respectful, he was very stubborn, rather arrogant and prideful in his views. He was adamant he was correct and every one else was wrong. Even as it would seem the bible.
He is teaching that Jesus, although God, came in the flesh, walk as a man and he had the same Adamic sin in him as man does!
That Jesus’ flesh was inherently sinful, but his spirit had no sin and was perfect.
He teaches that the Spirit gives us the power to physically, never sin in the flesh. , ever! So you are able to live by the law, follow all the commandments and never break them, never sin, just as Jesus never sinned.
So Jesus did not sin, because the spirit empowered him not to sin, although he had the sinful nature that man has. He used the devils temptations as part of his proof texts, because if he had been perfect and sinless then they would not have been real temptations!
I was a bit gob smacked at first and it took me a little time to get my head round it.
So basically he is saying when you are born again the spirit empowers you not to sin! You perfect the law and are justified! ???
I mean I get the idea that with Christ we do not sin (in the Spirit of course) but in the flesh we most certainly do! Any one who says he is without sin, is a liar and the Father is not in him.
To say Jesus was born sinful is perhaps the most heretical view I have ever come across!
Oh I gave him so much scripture, chapter and verse, in fact, I was spoiled for choice. But he would have none of it and twisted it all to fit his view and beliefs.
Unbelievable, he told me I don’t understand scripture because I don’t pray in tongues?
It was the most bizarre conversation I have ever had. Sad thing is that man isn’t even saved. I’ve prayed for him and done everything I can, but in the end I had to shake the dust off my feet.
I've heard of a few Pentecostals who have held such beliefs. There's some strange and scary ideas out there.