Yu-Gi-Oh! The Problem With Link Summoning!

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  • @braydenfath
    @braydenfath 7 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    As a player who just plays at LGS stores, everyone in my area is going to pretend that Link summoning doesn't exist.

    • @darriyonnecarter536
      @darriyonnecarter536 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Brayden Fath I pretend it doesn't exist as well

    • @bretrobinson1590
      @bretrobinson1590 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here, even though, me and my brothers, don't play that offten I think every deck that was any good should get new cards to be able to play with this new mechanic.

    • @tytantyphlosion2910
      @tytantyphlosion2910 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My buddy’s and myself IGNORE link shitting.

    • @jonathanasencio9061
      @jonathanasencio9061 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Only reason my friends and everyone we Duel at our college campus don't even bother playing competitive is because we all universally pretend the link format doesn't exist

    • @GamerJosh2611
      @GamerJosh2611 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same, me and my friends are sticking to Pendulum Era

  • @DBZSeanzie
    @DBZSeanzie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Synchro, xyz, pendulum... literally none of them forced other players to buy new cards to continue playing the game the way they wanted to. They were all optional, where link on the other hand is restricting everyone who is not using them! It's a forced scam! Unlike the other mechanics, which are fun and some people wanted to play them and have those options, links says "no, you have to play links to continue to try and play the game as you know it". It's bullshit. It would seem cimo got it right

    • @ufukcangencoglu2279
      @ufukcangencoglu2279 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      With SYnchro,XYZ and Pendulums made other decks absolut by either KOnami hitting them in the banlist or just power creeping It.Those mechanics didn't inherently prevented other mechanics from being good either the banlist or the power creep did It.

    • @DBZSeanzie
      @DBZSeanzie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Ufukcan Gencoglu but YOU didn't have to change YOUR deck to play them, that was your choice. This is a giant nerf, just forcing people to buy the new stuff. It's a scam, just like all of ygo

    • @edua87
      @edua87 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't see it as a scam, I see it as a business doing what a business does

    • @sirultor648
      @sirultor648 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      A company is supposed to please their costumers... Otherwise how is it supposed to have clients?? A lot of people are quitting YGO now because of link summoning. Konami sure made more money in this short period of time, but in a long term view, it will have almost no costumers and wont make any more money

    • @fadedtiger3181
      @fadedtiger3181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol

  • @f.g9698
    @f.g9698 7 ปีที่แล้ว +884

    The biggest problem with the link mechanic:
    The link mechanic exists.

    • @np5229
      @np5229 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      f. g So true

    • @pianostick
      @pianostick 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      f. g i love this

    • @thebreed254
      @thebreed254 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      OK, I'm not saying that it's not a stupid mechanic, because it is...... but with an all new monster zone that you have to get over to make direct attacks, it creates a nice wall to use when you need to get out of a pinch
      also, it allows everyone to have their own unique deck build and playsyle instead of just mirroring the best arctype and mixing it up with 1-3 to make it 'different'
      other than that, just use zombies or any deck that play's from the graveyard for now till they give out arctype support
      it's still new, we don't have many cards, so sit-down, shut up and wait for the time being

    • @terminalsarcasm
      @terminalsarcasm 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      This guy gets it.

    • @ChojiAkmichiGoblinIV
      @ChojiAkmichiGoblinIV 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      and volcanic just became broken on extra deck users. blaze accel on all link monsters. lol

  • @ghostreaperwintercherries1628
    @ghostreaperwintercherries1628 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    and here we are 2 years later with decks that only play link monsters and manage to put out 6 extra deck monsters

  • @thecamproject7033
    @thecamproject7033 7 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Synchro and XYZ summoning is pretty good.
    Pendulum, weird but reasonable.
    Link summoning so that only one extra monster can be summoned at a time unless it’s linked. Nope.
    I prefer the duels where you can summon more then one XYZ, etc. monster at a time then this.

    • @BigBoi898
      @BigBoi898 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well good news then: you still can summon multiple Synchro and XYZ monsters! Just, you know, gotta open up some extra monster zones first using a link monster, but surely, a special summon spam focused deck has no problem bringing out two more monsters for a generic link that can open up two spaces, no?

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @TheCamProject Just stop going to events (or if you do use Monarchs or a similar Xtra-Slayer type Deck) and play MR3 Format with like-minded people.

    • @eidolonphoenix3503
      @eidolonphoenix3503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm sorry if this is too old, but just in case you didn't know, Master rule revision fixed this! Now you don't need to use link monsters. (Still applies to pendulums tho)

    • @dylanwight5764
      @dylanwight5764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eidolonphoenix3503 I can accept Pendulums, even forgiving the change to the playing field itself. But Links as released were a huge mistake. Thankfully MR5 sorted out a lot of these issues.
      I'll always welcome new mechanics as long as they don't _require_ players to retool an entire style.

  • @TeamAPS
    @TeamAPS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +470

    I couldn't agree with you any more. I've normally been open to new mechanics and Summoning types, but Link monsters really are breaking some boundaries. I hate the feeling that it's interfering with the otherwise peaceful game we've had up to now, in addition to the monsters having a handful of new properties that we're forced to learn and adopt. Outside of nerfing a lot of decks that simply can't utilize them efficiently, it's going to be very difficult to transition people over to the new rules and mechanics without a lot of confusion. As a result, a lot of people are doing just what you said and simply using decks that aren't subject to the problems Links introduce. Great points, great discussion!

    • @KyanbuXM
      @KyanbuXM 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      CarelessGuyPlays
      They mean mechanic wise. up till now no new mechanic has ever stopped the older one from being used. Konami often goes out of their to stop releasing decent cards for older mechanics just to keep the new one in focus for a while. A strange practice as players will by what ever new cards that happen to be playable anyway.

    • @NewTypeKnight
      @NewTypeKnight 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Team APS I read your comment in your voice! XD love your vids! keep up the great work! :)

    • @komujimaru
      @komujimaru 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you love anything konami does, your their number 1 cheer leader

    • @ninjaman6861
      @ninjaman6861 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Team APS I wouldn't describe the game as peaceful in the past few years. These unbreakable boards aren't healthy for a game. While I do agree that the lock is out of order, I do like the feeling of having the Extra Deck as an EXTRA Deck. Something that supplements your deck. EDIT: This does not restrict summoning these extra deck monsters from the grave. D/D's are an example of a deck more than equipped to deal with this.

    • @fael6616
      @fael6616 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ninjaman I am just scared ,all the old decks like ritual beast die !

  • @rescuehamster1734
    @rescuehamster1734 7 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    I started to get on board the Link train as time progressed, because I don't mind the slow down of the game. But then I watched a video of Odd-Eyes vs Star Grail and the Star Grail, ON THEIR TURN 1, LINK SUMMONED 13 TIMES and went through half their deck. So they aren't suppose to slow down the game, they are suppose to just stop us from playing old cards and force us to play Links or not use the Extra Deck. I think that is bullshit. Especially after an entire season focused on celebrating all the mechanics and saying they are all good.

    • @vanitasgod7778
      @vanitasgod7778 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Eryk Cheba link to video Bc I'm an odd eyes player

    • @nightshroud9671
      @nightshroud9671 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Crap, first decks like Heavenly Dragons/Zarc and Odd Eyes decks get screwed over and now they are getting humiliated out here by those decks like Star Grails that gets to go crazy with that stuff..

    • @ricardoboudi9669
      @ricardoboudi9669 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      please link this video

    • @IceBean
      @IceBean 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just search "Odd-Eyes vs Star Grail" and it should be the first result.

    • @maidenlass
      @maidenlass 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rescue Hamster 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

  • @Pr0phetless
    @Pr0phetless 7 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I can see this happening:
    You know goat format duels everyone is playing? There's now going to be pre-link format duels

    • @soleo2783
      @soleo2783 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      knowing konami, they won't do this, because then people won't buy links so they can play :D

    • @ohexenwahno5652
      @ohexenwahno5652 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Konami will never support such a format. It'll be only on casual and maybe local levels. The best we can do is play anything that doesn't require Links at all (even better if the meta stays away from links) and wait until they murder the shit out of every deck that doesn't need links, then call them out for their greed, ?????, not profit...

    • @halonewrumours3332
      @halonewrumours3332 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know about other areas but in my area, they has casual games and they said that they will not include link monsters and its mechanics u till they fix it

    • @admontblanc
      @admontblanc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's not talking about Konami, he means online ygo simulators and local shops where players gather to duel casually. Basically unnoficial duels where you can use whatever rules you like.

    • @bloodyidit4506
      @bloodyidit4506 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No one will play officially then. Konami tourneys will end up ghost towns, and unofficial and online tourneys will reign.

  • @mr.incuriosity
    @mr.incuriosity 7 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    ive been out of yugioh for years and just got back into it...
    xyz's
    pendulum
    link
    my brain hurts

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      There are some of us that still like to play the old way, we're just REALLY hard to find now.
      Me personally I prefer playing with Synchros with just a dash of Xyz for flavor...which is why I don't play meta.

    • @baddragonite
      @baddragonite 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mr. Incuriousity same haha

    • @swandive46
      @swandive46 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Never even got into Synchros, but Links/Pendulums don't seem too hard to try out.

    • @NoFlu
      @NoFlu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Alex M While I like Synchro (and I am fine with enemies using XYZ, I don't use them though) everything after that is just..... yea

    • @ChiefShmeef
      @ChiefShmeef 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I completely understand where you're coming from. I got back into YGO during XYZ and they slowly grew on me. I didn't play pendulum but I tolerated them. Now Link summoning has everything all fucked up and I kind of don't want to play anymore

  • @koricthegreatwashedupfight9088
    @koricthegreatwashedupfight9088 7 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    New cards use to be so powerful you had to use them. Now link monsters are viable cause they made rules that said "USE US OR ELSE!!!!!"
    It feels like there will be two different yugiohs to play now. Pre Link Era and Post link Era.

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      U r completely correct. Legacy 4ever!

  • @DeerestAshe
    @DeerestAshe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Honestly I loved the game the most when Xyz and Synchros were only there.
    Pendulums werent fun at all and now it's getting worse

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I totally agree. I first came to the game when 5D's hit. I actually found the anime first, and graduated to playing the game just because the anime made the game look so fun and cool.
      Then Xyz came along and while I was hesitant and kinda worried it was a broken Summon method at first, I got into it and ended up liking it almost as much as Synchros.
      Then Pendulum came along and I was like:
      "Ok who the fuck is in charge of this shit? How did this make it past the balance team? This shit is broken, free respawn every turn? WTF?"
      Now I'm just looking at Links and SMH. I like that the anime is a genuine call-back to 5D's in the story aspect (actually I love that part about it) and that it also incorporates some of the best elements of Zexal as well (Fuck Yuma, love me some Barians, those guys are badass). But the actual IRL game changing rules? They nearly break Accel Synchros (give us 2 X-Zones each Konami!) and actually fail to slow the game down AT ALL for the mainstream meta. The only decks MR4 hurts is rogue decks. Just like how the only people increased taxes hurt are the middle class.
      In fact now that I think about it, Links are actually an "Extra Deck Tax" in EVERY sense of the word!

    • @StardustLegend
      @StardustLegend 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

    • @AnonyMous-it2ww
      @AnonyMous-it2ww 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah man synchros are awesome

    • @rudyramadhana4127
      @rudyramadhana4127 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sync and Xyz era was the most enjoyable for me

    • @SpicyBean
      @SpicyBean 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No one played pendulums tho

  • @zengamer321
    @zengamer321 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Link mechanic forces Link. It's like if Xyz inherently stopped Synchro or something. It's one thing for a new mechanic to be good and another for that new mechanic to just automatically make other mechanics worse.
    Like if instead of extra monster zone, it was Link monster only zone, that would be good cuz link monsters can do more geometry plays. Link itself is neat, but the inherent fuck you to other decks is terrible.

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think they should have just given us 2 X-Zones instead of one. Would remove 60% of the problems people have right away because:
      1. Two zones means you can still spam Synchros/Xyz's, just not nearly as much as before, allowing you to still perform nice plays without it being completely broken *glares at pendulums*
      2. Two zones allows you to have an easier time co-linking link monsters, as well as leaving Accel Synchro Summons untouched *cry*
      3. Two zones means the Link Lock Chain mechanic can actually be cool in that it doesn't completely shut down your opponent immediately while still punishing them for letting you get such a ridiculous board

    • @ArteXtheOriginal
      @ArteXtheOriginal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

  • @jisooahn3726
    @jisooahn3726 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The largest issue I have with link summoning is that the old mechanics came out you didn't have to use it if you didn't want to, however link summoning doesn't give you the option and honestly I think it's just unnecessary to force it, it seems like konami didn't think it would catch so they forced it to be used

  • @nicholasmartin6526
    @nicholasmartin6526 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'm convinced that link summoning was made to nerf pendulum summoning but they over did it

    • @AstralLaVista
      @AstralLaVista 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Master rules 5 agrees with you

    • @joshelderkin9592
      @joshelderkin9592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AstralLaVista lmao so happy they kept pendulums nerfed even after that

  • @justanother4067
    @justanother4067 7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Monarch players: I'm not even sweating it

    • @ufukcangencoglu2279
      @ufukcangencoglu2279 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unless It's the Extra Deck version.

    • @jasBoop
      @jasBoop 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why i still love monarchs 😂👌
      regret selling my deck

    • @amircat1009
      @amircat1009 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Clint Devine create another deck, it's well worth the money, fun and can be good in compet.

    • @jasBoop
      @jasBoop 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AMIRCAT 100 yeah ive been considering lol. But right now money's extremely tight and i have other things to get to 😂

    • @NexeL_NKC
      @NexeL_NKC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually run a Felgrand deck. No extra deck monsters here. lol

  • @BigPimpin1217
    @BigPimpin1217 7 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    honestly locking the extra deck with links just seems lazy. it's like Konami didn't wanna risk links not​ being played so they made it so the players are essentially forced to use them

    • @coldwintersknight9793
      @coldwintersknight9793 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      BigPimpin1217 in summation..... CASH GRAB BABY! WOOOOOO

    • @divemissile8928
      @divemissile8928 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      BigPimpin1217 i think it's less that konami wanted people to use link monsters badly, but that the link mechanic is too generic to just be a new summoning mechanic. plus, it's a decent attempt at trying to stop the boards in modern yugioh. if only konami was smart enough not to make true dracos near its release...

    • @thekittenfreakify
      @thekittenfreakify 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was links or a mas ban of the stun ed cards and tool box cards.

    • @skerion7956
      @skerion7956 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      BigPimpin1217 its not locking the extra deck since links themselves use the extra deck

    • @skerion7956
      @skerion7956 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BigPimpin1217 and there has never been a summoning mechanic that hasnt been meta

  • @Kishimyu
    @Kishimyu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    But Link summon IS GARBAGE. At least the other mechanics are optional, Link Summoning FORCES you to play it. It changes the game a lot more than you would think. And now some classic decks aren't even viable anymore even as rogue, because whatever extra deck power they had access to, are now limited. You're FORCED to play Links and that means you cannot play pure builds anymore. At least with Synchro, Xyz and Pendulums, you have the option to play one or all of them. With Links you have NO CHOICE. Konami could've easily altered some preexisting rules like they have in the past, but no, now we have to play with this trash mechanic. That's my argument against Links.

    • @Torkcoaldude
      @Torkcoaldude 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Ah yes. Because there has NEVER been a deck that doesn't use the extra deck.

    • @coldwintersknight9793
      @coldwintersknight9793 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kishimyu THIS. ALL OF THIS

    • @jirehjirehjirehjireh
      @jirehjirehjirehjireh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Decks that don't use the Extra Deck exist, but there right now 80% of decks that exist are Extra Deck based. Because of Link summoning that 80% of decks have to change their entire play style just to even be functional.

    • @skerion7956
      @skerion7956 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kishimyu its not forced its only forced if you want to summon 2 or more at the same time and you can play decks that dont use the extra deck

    • @magnusaber1
      @magnusaber1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are decks not "pure" anymore by throwing in a few link monsters in the extra? And why do decks need to be pure? As long as they still play somewhat the same as before the new rules that should be good enough, no? I can't think of any deck that directly dies with this, sure some decks are nerfed harder than others, but that's life

  • @443carl
    @443carl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Regardless of the "strength" of each individual link monster, it will be incredibly annoying to ever experiment with deck types again, without having to somehow shove in an engine to produce link monsters. Heck, one of the most amazing things about yu-gi-oh is always being able to play cards from any set, but this "restriction" will make any kind of fringe deck/non meta deck fall by the wayside. Konami might as well start the horror of set rotation.

    • @xolomonvazquez8204
      @xolomonvazquez8204 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Set rotation is amazing in a lot of ways that is healthy for the game itself because each format is refreshing and they don't have to do insane powercreep every set... although it isn't really good for the wallet.

    • @443carl
      @443carl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yugioh is one of the few remaining "pro" card games that does not have set rotation. This makes it rather refreshing in comparison with constantly being able experiment and dig for interesting synergies. .... Although the post was not at all aimed at rotation, rather the whole restriction on viability of decks taking a plunge if they can't find/fit a engine for link monsters, especially older ones.

    • @ohexenwahno5652
      @ohexenwahno5652 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let's be real here, Yugioh plays too much on the nostalgia to ever have set rotation. Plus, I'm ready to bet most people would just drop the Advanced Format and play only Legacy. For the same reasons, I'm not surprised Links aren't played much in the meta. Some people kinda want to try new decks, I always do, but if I'm forced to use Links for the extra deck, I'd rather not play an extra deck at all, hence the True King and True Draco meta.

    • @bluebladex3
      @bluebladex3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      443carl I loved that with Cyber Drags I could toss in Blue eyes, Lightsworn, Dinomist, or a synchro Tzolkin engine. Now what the fuck can I do? My Fortress Dragon will be useless. If I summon him I'll be stuck with him in the new monster zone and not being able to do shit.

    • @TrueCyprien
      @TrueCyprien 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Set rotation wouldn't make much difference in terms of money as opposed to powercreep. Most decks become irrelevant after a year either way. Unless you're that one guy playing chain burn of course.

  • @_SlimYGO
    @_SlimYGO 7 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    not only was this a great video it had a Victorias Secret Ad 10/10 would watch again XD

  • @TheItalianoAssassino
    @TheItalianoAssassino 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    My unpopular opinion: Sychros were the last balanced and well implemented summoning mechanic. You had to have a tuner and a non-tuner, there were Synchros usable by every deck and deck-specific ones.

    • @jadyazbeck6089
      @jadyazbeck6089 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      TheItalianoAssassino xyz were fine. The conditions for the most powerful ones are pretty tough to achieve. Most are just utility cards like norito, constellar ptomlemy and utopia.

  • @TheMarceauxx
    @TheMarceauxx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Cimo is just turning into Mkohl that's why he has the blue shirt

  • @coldwintersknight9793
    @coldwintersknight9793 7 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    They could have put link summoning in the game and I would have been fine....if they hadn't locked the extra deck.... And remember how they added a new zone for pendulums? well they could have just said that what is now called the "Extra Monster Zone" could have just been the Link Zone where only link monster went and it would have been fine!

    • @mutate9248
      @mutate9248 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ikr

    • @coldwintersknight9793
      @coldwintersknight9793 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      they could have just called the "extra monster zone" the link zone and that would have been fine

    • @nimisisblademedia866
      @nimisisblademedia866 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cold Winter's Knight the restriction I think was needed, but they made it to strict. maybe only 2 zone for each player for inherent summoned axtra deck monsters. or 3 zones one for each player and a third we can fight over if they wanted that so bad.

    • @coldwintersknight9793
      @coldwintersknight9793 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nimisis blade interesting thoughts! or maybe they could have just made it 5 and let chaos reign lol then it would be like the anime effect of the seal of orichalcos XD

    • @shawnjavery
      @shawnjavery 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think konami should have tried to slow down the format with some other restriction.

  • @protectagainstmstds9754
    @protectagainstmstds9754 7 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Synchro is my favorite summoning mechanic...so guess how I feel about links

    • @rescuehamster1734
      @rescuehamster1734 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My roommate plays Synchros almost exclusively. I think you feel the same way he does.

    • @Dclare3
      @Dclare3 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      same here and i know your feel.

    • @PBart7
      @PBart7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ProtectAgainstMSTDs Literally all my decks are focused on the extra deck. fuck Links.

    • @lockmaster24
      @lockmaster24 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My favourite method is Synchro too, I like how you always had to consider what level everything was and what combination of monsters would result in the best outcome. I love the long combos resulting in powerful boss monsters where each step is a math quiz.

    • @darkblur101
      @darkblur101 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ProtectAgainstMSTDs My Favorite deck is Synchrons. So yeah fuck Link. I can't even summon Quasar or accel synchro unless I use Link monsters. I hate this.

  • @TheBobtheratkiller
    @TheBobtheratkiller 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I've been away from Yugioh for awhile, had the thought of coming back, but the new link mechanic pretty much kills everything I want to do. I'm not sure I even will come back to be honest.

    • @kristiannikolic6284
      @kristiannikolic6284 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been away for so long aswell but I actually find link-summoning fun, but the current problem is the great link-monsters are so FUCKING expensive

    • @quintenvoorhees9974
      @quintenvoorhees9974 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Na, come back. I did after like a 6 year break. Everyone just agreed to not use link summons in my group

    • @eidolonphoenix3503
      @eidolonphoenix3503 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      oof I'm sure this is too old but a few months ago, they fixed this problem. now you don't need to use link monsters (unless it pendulum lololol)

  • @supersaiyaneevee1573
    @supersaiyaneevee1573 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would be funny to see Cimooo react to his old videos in 2023. I wonder what his thoughts are now, how they evolved, and what he thinks of the nee rule changes for links.

  • @drpepperkingcom
    @drpepperkingcom 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    1) I'm calling it now: There's gonna be a March 2013 Banlist situation again, just to force people to play this mechanic even more than now.
    2) Demonis AOH said it best: "Huh. It's almost like the Extra Deck should never have been more than a toolbox in the first place."
    3) I like Links, but I do agree some of the B.S. they put in there (Lock The Extra Monster Zone) is a little too much.
    4) Links almost replaced Synchros due to their ease of summoning (No Tuners? No Problem).
    5) Just like the other Extra Summoning mechanics, Link's gonna get some busted stuff that breaks the mechanic more than we already can.

    • @Koburakage
      @Koburakage 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Drpepperkingkong agreed on all points. The only problem is that it's most likely point 5 will be a prize card/not easily accessible.

    • @drpepperkingcom
      @drpepperkingcom 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh, I disagree. It's either gonna be a slow burn that leads to something big (True Kings before the Tribute monsters), or an archetype that just pukes out their extra deck with no problem (Basically Zoodiacs)

    • @ufukcangencoglu2279
      @ufukcangencoglu2279 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was March 2012 not 2013 banlist

    • @drpepperkingcom
      @drpepperkingcom 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. I meant to come back and fix it, but forgot to.

  • @zaniacbrainiac8214
    @zaniacbrainiac8214 7 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Cimoooooo is wearing blue and talking about links..... illuminati confirmed kappa

    • @Cimoooooooo
      @Cimoooooooo  7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I'm slowly transforming into Mkohl40.

    • @xzenitramx666
      @xzenitramx666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cimoooooooo you have to gain some weight them

    • @joshuajames7006
      @joshuajames7006 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Won't be long till you start making videos in your car.

    • @S3Mtg
      @S3Mtg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      After that cubics shit, I'm not surprised.

  • @MegaRobertTV
    @MegaRobertTV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I liked the idea of the Extra Deck zone and the Pendelum nerf. It was the perfect way to balance out the game. But Links literally defeat the purpose of those changes! They spam monsters worse than those trolley Quaser builds from 5Ds and are pretty much unrivaled because the entire game is entirely in their favor

    • @ufukcangencoglu2279
      @ufukcangencoglu2279 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you think Pendulum mechanic is broken I think you need to think again.If It's broken why they didn't dominated the meta all the time.Heck the only time that Pendulums dominated was in PePe format.A format that lasted 1 month.

    • @ufukcangencoglu2279
      @ufukcangencoglu2279 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Extra Deck monster zone just would make a bunch of older decks unplayable without Links.But what you said would just probably kill the game or make the format stale as hell.

  • @strawhat9023
    @strawhat9023 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The thing with Yugioh is after Konami took control of Yugioh from Upper Deck, Konami focused on mass summon style of playing. Once they started giving mass summons to decks, players began to lose with 7 turns alot more often. They further increased how much you can special summon and now players are commonly losing within 3 turns nearly all the time. To fix this they thought taking away 1st turn draw would solve this. It did not. It made it worse actually. Now they are in a bind, losing old players and not gaining new ones to replace them. So they devised Link Summon. Now they need to bring back 1st turn draw and it is a game again, almost.
    So how much fun is that? I like the the Link monsters. They slow the game down significantly so that it can be more enjoyable. With the Link summon it forces the stronger decks to slow their roll while a mid tier deck can do some damage.

    • @citcoin-official2681
      @citcoin-official2681 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      link? Slowing down the game? Haha,no.

    • @d22268
      @d22268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@citcoin-official2681 i agree links didn't slow down the game because there are decks that don't use the extra deck

    • @REIVAXEBONFIEND
      @REIVAXEBONFIEND 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Links didnt slow the game down it just made it 10x faster.

    • @DarkShadowOblivion
      @DarkShadowOblivion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Links only slow you down if you use an Extra Deck and don’t use Links.

    • @REIVAXEBONFIEND
      @REIVAXEBONFIEND 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DarkShadowOblivion what do u think konami needs to do to slow this game down?

  • @jeffreybyrd2081
    @jeffreybyrd2081 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Link summoning was the biggest mistake ever the game would've been fine without it especially now!!!!!!

  • @RanserSSF4
    @RanserSSF4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I really was excited about Links, but the only thing I hate about it is when Konami confirmed that you can take BOTH extra monster zones, even though they clearly said from the start that each player can only use one extra monster. If they kept that ruling instead of adding the new ruling I mentioned. Since Stargrails might become meta when Dinos and Master Peace turbo in OCG are taken care of, they're going to be the first link spam archetype that will abuse this mechanic and lock your opponent form playing the extra deck.

    • @powertravelinc
      @powertravelinc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      but taking the other zone requires so much dedication and resources, and star grails don't have the link markers to do it

    • @RanserSSF4
      @RanserSSF4 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stargrails do have a link stargrail that has a marker that points up. It's the dragon that's a link 1 and has a marker that points up.

    • @powertravelinc
      @powertravelinc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      RanserSSF4 yes but all the links have to be in mutual link for you to get the other zone. Imduk can't be in mutual link because it only has one link marker

    • @RanserSSF4
      @RanserSSF4 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      to be fair, stargrails might get more links in the future.

    • @powertravelinc
      @powertravelinc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      RanserSSF4 that is true, but as of now they can't and wouldn't.

  • @mechtaviuslord5098
    @mechtaviuslord5098 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This situation is 100% exactly what happened when the Xyz mechanic was first revealed. No one played them nor were they good at the time. Plant Synchro, Tengu Plants etc were still the meta until the March 2012 banlist completely wiped them out to promote the Xyz decks Like Inzektors, Wind-ups, Dino Rabbits etc. I can see that exact scenario happening for links. Konami will kill True King/Dracos and anything else during the pendulum era just to promote link mechainic. It's march 2012 all over again

    • @mechtaviuslord5098
      @mechtaviuslord5098 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My only problem with true dracos is not master peace. It's the secondary effects of spell/trap and monster removal that really gives the opponents a hard time. What's worse is that the tribute summon during your opponents turn is a stupid effect. You get profit for absolutely no reason. I don't fault people for playing tribute summon decks. I just have bad experience versing those types of decks (still have emotional scars from full power monarchs)

  • @adamlynch9153
    @adamlynch9153 7 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    Kozmo players: "I ain't even mad"

    • @cainejohnson3227
      @cainejohnson3227 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      AJ Lynch Best comment by far

    • @edward8432
      @edward8432 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Peew pewww, destroyer incoming!

    • @raphaelokoye6459
      @raphaelokoye6459 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AJ Lynch lol was thinking the same only need extra deck zone for cyber dragon infinity

    • @Luna-cq9ic
      @Luna-cq9ic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They're gonna Dark Destroy some pussy

    • @tridentskin0729
      @tridentskin0729 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Monarchs..........

  • @MrMisterJW
    @MrMisterJW 7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Link Summoning IS the dumbest mechanic added to any card game

    • @AlifieAbsinTh
      @AlifieAbsinTh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what are your thoughts now after 3 yrs?

    • @MrMisterJW
      @MrMisterJW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlifieAbsinTh still the same. I mean it's not terrible, but still dumbest mechanic. It's not unusable, but it's also so generic that it starts to hurt.

    • @firasb-ck1dj
      @firasb-ck1dj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlifieAbsinTh
      It still sucks , u have to wait hours for your turn to come

    • @joshelderkin9592
      @joshelderkin9592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrMisterJW they fixed literally everything about it lol its my favorite mechanic of all time now theyve been printing less and less generic link monsters and they fixed the one zone restriction except on link monsters and broken ass pendelum monsters that are face up in the extra deck shits beautiful

  • @catisreckless4647
    @catisreckless4647 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The problem is that in the past, no other summoning mechanic messed with another. You want to run synchros? Fine, doesn't mean anything to my ritual deck. Xyz monsters? Sure, I'll just fusion summon. Link summoning however forces you to play the way it wants you to, which for a CtG (or really any game for that matter), is a massive fail. It's a shame too, for I was eagerly looking forward to Link Evolution for Switch, despite it being a thinly disguised update to a game most of us already owned. As long as this mechanic exists, I have zero interest in Yu-Gi-Oh now. And I am sad.

  • @skyelindsey687
    @skyelindsey687 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I originally got into the game/series when I was 12/13. I got out of the fandom/phase when I "lost" all my cards when moving (pretty sure my mother was tired of me and my siblings arguing over them). I am now 19 and during Thanksgiving week I bought some new cards and found the pendulum and link monsters. I didn't know how to use them so I took them out and put them in the box of cards I don't use/can't fit into my deck case and continued playing the game how I remembered from 7 years ago. I realized that I probably should learn how to use the mechanics so I looked up how to do both pendulum and link. Pendulum seemed easy enough...and hen i realized that was from before link. Ok, shouldn't be that difficult, right...wrong. To put it in perspective I just got finished with College Algebra and I despised learning how to do logarithms and never want to see them again...I would rather do logarithms again instead of actually utilizing the link cards as something other than bookmarks because watching the video of how they're supposed to work gave me a headache trying to follow it.
    So yeah, whoever invented them needs to burn in hell.

  • @Nolimitscomedy
    @Nolimitscomedy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know Yu-Gi-Oh has changed quite a bit when not a single specific word was said once in this video.... "Fusion"

  • @iJizzmyPants69
    @iJizzmyPants69 7 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Its a pay wall to play your old extra deck cards.
    Thanks komoney!

    • @coldwintersknight9793
      @coldwintersknight9793 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Ken H in the words of Jim Sterling #FucKonami

    • @WauzirexLP
      @WauzirexLP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      exactly... konami becomes more and more greedy so their lock down our existing shit and hold the hand to use and want money and give us back a link monster to unlock this paywall...

    • @KevynVasconcelos1999
      @KevynVasconcelos1999 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      true dudee :(

    • @admontblanc
      @admontblanc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you drawed Dragluon I'd call you a cheat anyway, put it back in the extra deck.

    • @admontblanc
      @admontblanc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't see where's the logic of answer, how is it difficult to get 2 lvl8 dragons?

  • @johanadisunno1476
    @johanadisunno1476 7 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    The "brawl" era of yugioh has arrived

    • @Mastermind4life
      @Mastermind4life 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "super kiaba smash brother" 4 you say...quite a meta comment. also quite an appropriate analogy.

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, I see Normal Summoning and the Main Deck becoming the next focus for swarming. The Monarchs have risen!

  • @mileshunter1951
    @mileshunter1951 7 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    I like your videos and in most, you seem really knowledgeable but, I think your missing the point. Konami seems to have realised it's not fun waiting for an opponent to take a 25 min turn while they shit out 600 Extra deck monsters first turn and you sit there twiddling your thumbs by the end looking at a CDI, Psy-Frame omega and a Clearwing and offer the handshake. The phrase "Run this and you might get to play Yugioh" is being thrown around a lot when talking about counters and that's not good. There was a time when the game felt like a boxing match, back and forth every other turn was a round and you went back and fourth till the K.O. Many duels now can seem more like a "1, 2, 3, DRAW" both players fire and it's over in a single turn (Looking at you OTK Dinos). Exactly what your saying the Extra deck being a toolbox is what ist supposed to and always was meant to be. Things just got out of hand.

    • @charlescooks9360
      @charlescooks9360 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yugioh is a stable game. it makes PLENTY of money

    • @SoulEvans6547
      @SoulEvans6547 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Miles Hunter this summon type is no better. It makes most old decks unplayable in competitive and take 10 mins for their turns like world chalice

    • @lulzvg
      @lulzvg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm late af but it was kinda a given that this would make that exact issue worse. You'll build around using them so they'll inherently make those turns last longer. Some of the setups you are faced with are even worse than they were prior.
      I'm grateful and all that we are getting archetype and generic support but this didn't fix anything regardless of intentions. It just happened to be a "floodgate" of sorts at inception due to the lack of variety.

    • @dizking743
      @dizking743 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Miles Hunter Correct me if I’m wrong with any of this:
      Well I only started getting back into yugioh a year ago, so I assembled a deck, a Lightsworn deck.
      I never played with pendulum monsters.
      From a “noobs” point of view, I think it is extremely difficult to use a non pendulum or link summoning deck and win.
      I agree that at first everything seemed like it would break the game but link summoning makes it hard for me, a new non serious player who prefers using older cards that I know and used to remember.

    • @veeclash2509
      @veeclash2509 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      wait until players figure out how to clog up both extra deck zones by turn 1. that's an automatic gg! sorry you can't use your extra deck cos your zone is full!!

  • @level3xfactor
    @level3xfactor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think Links are a knee jerk reaction to how fast and solitaire the game has gotten

    • @GoldenHay1
      @GoldenHay1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      even if that was true, which it isn't, it would be entirely their own fault.

  • @sluna6434
    @sluna6434 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    If people in japan aren't really using links and then that extends over here then one of two things will happen:
    1) They will change the Extra Monster Zone to the Link Zone and release the rest for the extra deck and keep releasing all extra deck summoning methods like in the Arc V era, and all the players will be happy (some won't, but they're never happy).
    2) They ban the heck out of everything competitive that doesn't rely on Link Summoning.

    • @garretnelson2771
      @garretnelson2771 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most likely will be number 2. Just waiting for True Dracos to get the shit hit out of them.

    • @KyanbuXM
      @KyanbuXM 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Garret Nelson
      ZBs might get annihilated like the Dragon Rulers before. Which would be really sad if it happens as the deck in the ocg is at tolerable levels now.

    • @sluna6434
      @sluna6434 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Either way it will be decided in the next few months, by the beginning of 2018 the pace of either road will have been picked up.

    • @garretnelson2771
      @garretnelson2771 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't know why they even released the Dragon Rulers if you literally banned all their cards lol.

    • @nightshroud9671
      @nightshroud9671 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least Limit them if they see them as OP..
      I am pretty sure there are cards out there that could counter them/screw them up

  • @TomassHole
    @TomassHole 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "We're able to create boards like True King of All Calamities + a Laggia +Bahamut Shark +Toadally Awesome" -ya because that's fun for the whole family. I can't wait to go turn 2 against that in my Dark Magician Deck. Man if only I had a way to summon Dark Paladin, Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight, Cyber Dragon Infinity and Crystal Wing and 5 cards in hand to discard for DP and DMGDK in 1 turn. Then my decimated Dino-True King opponent would wish: if only my board could also have a Dolkka AND 3 SOLEMN FUCKING STRIKES FACE-DOWN, that would be fair. This is what you want?

    • @jskdjdshzbsd8021
      @jskdjdshzbsd8021 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tom As shut the fuck up link fucked up 20 decks for 2 decks it created

  • @veeclash2509
    @veeclash2509 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    yeah i was shocked to find out i couldn't summon a 2nd extra deck monster. oh look i can synchro summon a stardust dragon... oh wait i can't cos my extra zone is already used!!

    • @BigBoi898
      @BigBoi898 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      who still runs stardust dragon in 2018? Besides, if Stardust would have been the monster you needed more, you should have gone for that than rather than the monster in your extra zone now. BTW, just throw in a generic link to open up more zones to use. Spec summon-focused spam decks should have little to no problem generating enough monsters for both a link and then more synchro monsters. OH BTW, monsters only go to the extra monster zone if directly summoned from the extra deck. Your Stardust Dragon, after its first effect trigger, would summon itself back into a main monster zone, freeing up the extra zone it previously occupied. Interesting, aint it??

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dan, you do know Stardust is an entire archetype now right? It also has a Link monster or two on the way if not already released

    • @BigBoi898
      @BigBoi898 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I meant the regular Yusei ace monster Stardust Dragon, not the archetype itself, which I know exists. Both Vee Clash's and my comment refered to the Stardust Dragon card, noone brought up the archetype.

    • @KingNexusMOCs
      @KingNexusMOCs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigBoi898 Either way, your comment wasn't very helpful lol

    • @PhantasticTruth
      @PhantasticTruth 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigBoi898 this is pretty cool actually, cause i used to hate when dudes would freaking synchro and xyz like 8 times in one turn just cause they had the more expensive cards...i actually appreciate this new mechanic

  • @S3Mtg
    @S3Mtg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    After that cubics shit, I'm not surprised.

    • @ufukcangencoglu2279
      @ufukcangencoglu2279 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This meme honestly NEEDS to die.

    • @S3Mtg
      @S3Mtg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ufukcan Gencoglu I don't even remember commenting this, it was like a month ago chill dude.

    • @I_was_a_Bullfrog
      @I_was_a_Bullfrog 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cubics?

  • @MrNeilTV
    @MrNeilTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m getting back into the game after err 20 years out, I rediscovered it. Let me just say, the game I left is NOT the game that is out. Not even sure how they are all under the same umbrella. They’re all too far different from the beginning to the end. I understand wanting to evolve but let’s be honest, they made a new game with in a game. What was wrong with the rules I grew up with? What was wrong with the mechanics? Nothing.

  • @Thunderlike1
    @Thunderlike1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I think that Konami fucked up with links. The game develops further away from the basic game. I always look at soccer. Soccer is so popular and loved, because it is so easy - it has basic rules and is easy to understand. Once links are out newcomers will have an even harder time. It's stupid. They had to fix pendulums and reduce space in the extra deck + nerf field spells and get the stupid strong effects out (who wants to deal with super duper strong boards turn one bc of one rat...)

    • @ufukcangencoglu2279
      @ufukcangencoglu2279 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But without new summoning mechanics the game would have probably died out a long time ago.And Pendulums didn't needed to be nerfed.They were never really that meta relevant and the reason that those decks were meta was mostly due to other stuff.But I do agree yhat they reallly need to stop making OP field spells.And Zoo was a problem but Link summoning doesn't fix It.It just increases the problem.

    • @jadyazbeck6089
      @jadyazbeck6089 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The difference between link and pendelum is that link destroys many decks. Pendelum just is an addon

  • @ajemison3
    @ajemison3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OCG has 4 link decks right? Trickster, Gouki, Stargrail, Cyberse/protagdeck. arc v started off with 1 pend deck and then qlis attacked the next set.

    • @coldwintersknight9793
      @coldwintersknight9793 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      BasedAaron everything changed when the qli nation attacked

    • @acedekkYT
      @acedekkYT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BasedAaron and out of those, only Stargrail spams out Links as that is their theme
      Gouki and the main protagonist builds hasn't been relevent at all and Trickster don't even touch the extra deck at all barring an appropriate rank 4 for the situation IF they need to use it

  • @bennyrodriguez3053
    @bennyrodriguez3053 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How to deal with link summoning decks:
    1. sidedeck ground collaspe
    2.use non extra deck achetypes (lightsworn, monarch, anything with ritual monsters)
    3.rinse and repeat

  • @clarkside4493
    @clarkside4493 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Xyz are my favorite "new" type of monster. I love being able to splash something into my play without having to compromise my card choices. If there's a fair number of monsters of the same level in your deck, you can toss in just about whatever Xyz monsters you want. That's fun, generally speaking.

  • @mr.tajtas4259
    @mr.tajtas4259 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I dont like the Link format.

    • @THElarry27
      @THElarry27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Does anyone that likes it even exist?

    • @Liliana_the_ghost_cat
      @Liliana_the_ghost_cat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah at least pendulum was fun

    • @cardgameenjoyer7446
      @cardgameenjoyer7446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Made me quit because it made my decks unusable

    • @c_cayce
      @c_cayce 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cardgameenjoyer7446 I think they undid the rule somewhat

  • @frankanderson3368
    @frankanderson3368 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    MY main gripe with link summoning is the enevitable link monster that will be so easy and generic to summon and have like 3 arrows pointing down. Like how pendulums were really restricitve at first, now every pendulum is generic.

    • @ufukcangencoglu2279
      @ufukcangencoglu2279 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Qli was the only restrictive Pendulum archetype in the early days of It.And most Pendulum monsters are technically generic but they don't have any synergy so It's not completly generic.

    • @TheUSASpy
      @TheUSASpy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      waitin for that traffic ghost

    • @swandive46
      @swandive46 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't wait for the first 9 Link Rating monster.

  • @waltermalone216
    @waltermalone216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We dont do link summoning in my area. Literally even our local comic shops have banned them.

    • @joshelderkin9592
      @joshelderkin9592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmfao still? Theyres so many that are just straight up fun

  • @gazelle1467
    @gazelle1467 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who atm plays a deck that, given the chance, can flood the field with a million special summons and potentially win in one turn, I love that link summoning prevents me from doing that. I'm also quite happy that which zone you place your cards in matters more now, as I always thought that would be a cool mechanic to think about.

  • @mitrimind1027
    @mitrimind1027 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel that the link mechanic should only restrict where you can put link monsters and leave the other extra deck types alone.

  • @stevenmael
    @stevenmael 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The comment section is full of fools and drama queens, fast forward to the present (2019) and hand traps are a bigger menace to the game than link summoning ever will be.

  • @CrimsonKnight
    @CrimsonKnight 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    extra deck to 20 pls

  • @corbinisms8846
    @corbinisms8846 7 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Huh. It's almost like the Extra Deck should never have been more than a toolbox in the first place.

    • @GravitasMor
      @GravitasMor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Demonis AOH You took the words right out of my mouth.

    • @coldwintersknight9793
      @coldwintersknight9793 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Demonis AOH that was true once lol

    • @corbinisms8846
      @corbinisms8846 7 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I get really tired of hearing all of this "Oh, I can't combo off anymore! A True Dino field WITHOUT Toad and Shark? Ugh, Links suck". Yes, it may not be the solution we needed, and may not be the one we wanted, but damn it I'm so fucking fed up with every deck being able to make 5 monsters from the ED turn 1. Use the ED when it's needed, otherwise the MD should be fine. I do feel bad for the archetypes that require the ED, I do, but they should never have required it in the first place.

    • @jirehjirehjirehjireh
      @jirehjirehjirehjireh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Damn your right. I mean it's called the "EXTRA" deck for a reason: its extra shit to pile onto your main deck, like the cherry on top. I had a feeling Yugioh was kinda going in a weird direction when Extra Decks were more expensive than the main deck.

    • @GravitasMor
      @GravitasMor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Personally, I've always been against mass field locks.
      They're not healthy nor are they "creative" and they sap the fun out of the game.
      Oh, excuse me: "game".
      It's not a game, it's literally a test of "can you break this?"
      From what I have not only seen, but have experienced, it's a big fuckin "nope" more often than not.
      I am fine with people needing to take extra steps to be assholes to their opponents.
      You don't need links to play, you just need to play the game how its meant to be played.
      It is called an *EXTRA* DECK for a reason.

  • @jackmates4086
    @jackmates4086 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm going to stick with pendulum and XYZ summoning techniques!!! But do you think you could use cyberverse monster deck with xyz cards???

  • @nordy1999
    @nordy1999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Xyz and synchro were pretty straight forward. Even as someone who stopped playing long before those 2 mechanics were a thing and just recently started dabbling a bit again. I was able to figure them out very quickly without any help. Pendulum summon I had to look up but it makes sense now, even if I think its kinda dumb. But this link summon thing seems ultra stupid.

  • @iowaclass5657
    @iowaclass5657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Monarch users be like: “Our time has come. Let the carnage begin!”

  • @reesejackson5935
    @reesejackson5935 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Link summoning is basically contact fusion with the addition of arrows

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      true, so true lol. They should make all contact fusions into links

    • @Lucira
      @Lucira 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joel Gawne oooh then I'd love to see how Neos and the Neo-Spacians would look like

    • @citcoin-official2681
      @citcoin-official2681 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      With arrows AND nonsensical gamestoping restriction

    • @joshelderkin9592
      @joshelderkin9592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@citcoin-official2681 to be fair yugioh was going 200 mph before links lol its getting close to being that fast again

  • @bigmanFUBAR
    @bigmanFUBAR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The problem with Synchro Monsters was insane combos. The problem with Xyz Monsters was insane combos. The problem with Pendulum Monsters was insane combos. What did you expect?

    • @diegorojas2049
      @diegorojas2049 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The thing is that Link Summoning will now power creep the hell out of those decks, and pretty much the only decks that will have full power are non-extra decks and Link decks

    • @BUNJIN40K
      @BUNJIN40K 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Peyton Utley Implying that links don't have "insane combos"? My friend, have you seen firewall dragon?

    • @bigmanFUBAR
      @bigmanFUBAR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EijiDragonfunker I'm actually implying the exact opposite. Have you looked at the entire Star Grail archetype?

    • @Dio____Brando
      @Dio____Brando 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      EijiDragonfuker nothing that a limit/semi limit cant dix ( if konami does it even if its early and that they probably wont do it soon just to push links)

    • @Dio____Brando
      @Dio____Brando 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nick Hammerschmidt dimnsional barrier cant stop links

  • @jaredbowen827
    @jaredbowen827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank God that we have Master Rule 5 now.

  • @johngentley5015
    @johngentley5015 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Synchro summoning and Xyz summoning were fun mehanics, Pendulum was okay, but link summoning just ruined the fun of Yugioh for me

  • @m3adow
    @m3adow 7 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Link summoning.... more like link cimooooooooning

    • @m3adow
      @m3adow 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      :0 there is a god

    • @Dingg00se
      @Dingg00se 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David Rocha Cimoooooooo vs Yuginono

    • @Rock_Sirloin
      @Rock_Sirloin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GAMECIEL, THE VIRGINITY DESTROYING KAIJU I'm seeing you everywhere today XD

  • @RanOutOfSpac
    @RanOutOfSpac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I guess I'm one of the weird ones that truly enjoys the new format and link summoning. I had a ton of fun playing a local with my Cyberse themed deck. Didn't do too bad considering I've only been playing a month or so. Video's pretty oldish now but, I think once people adapt to the changes it won't seem as bad.

    • @tyeneee9531
      @tyeneee9531 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am with you brother no more unbreakable boards... unless your spirals

  • @Lee-ud7yi
    @Lee-ud7yi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    so the link cards look really cool... but thats all

  • @erikwoodruff5643
    @erikwoodruff5643 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really hated link because I used to main cyber dragons and galaxy eyes decks, which are based on multiple fast fusions or quick series of xyz summons. Now I'm using odd eyes, but its the same thing. I can only really get one extra deck monster on the field without changing a lot of the strategies I use

  • @deadturret4049
    @deadturret4049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never really minded Synchro or XYZ when they came out. I was iffy on pendulum but in general I was glad that none of these mechanics messed with older decks. I loved the fact that fusion archetypes like all the Hero variants were usable still, but MR4 fucked it all up tbh.
    Idk if konami changed the rules since links came out but man I miss MR3

  • @BobBob-ui6pm
    @BobBob-ui6pm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’m begging for duel links not to have link summoning

  • @bobbythatsnotyourpurse1346
    @bobbythatsnotyourpurse1346 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my favorite decks is my Destruction Sword deck and links just fucks my one turn Buster Dragon and Dragon Destroyer Swordsman move

    • @joshelderkin9592
      @joshelderkin9592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How that deck feel after that last ban list 💔 RIP little guy

  • @Goblin_Hands
    @Goblin_Hands 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:29 BA was always too floaty (spamming 3 Dantes on first turn) so it deserves Links. The deck is decent enough with Fire Lake, and now they can get Cir and Graff to 3.
    6:15 Synchro based decks that summon multiple Quasars are never fun to play against. Their long turns are remniscent of FTK Exodia. They deserve Links.
    6:49 Zoodiacs abuse Norden+Fusion Substitute and Terrortop (both help many other decks), so Zoodiacs deserve Links.
    9:05 Synchro only started with Tele-DAD (Plant Synchro, X-Sabers, and Blackwings were later).
    XYZ only started with Wind-Ups (Dino Rabbit, Inzektors, and Hieratics were later).
    Pendulums were ignored when Shaddolls, Tellarknights, and Yang Zings were introduced (Qli's were later).
    Trickstars are already being used.
    11:23 Locking out the opponent is a problem, just like a wall of 3 Firewall Dragons, but slowing down certain floaty decks is poetic justice, and we can count on Komoney to limit certain cards to help sell their new product.

    • @tripstar3563
      @tripstar3563 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Omg! someone understands!

    • @Goblin_Hands
      @Goblin_Hands 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FINALLY Someone ELSE understands. There is hope in this world and in Yu-Gi-Oh! after all!

    • @AetherKirin
      @AetherKirin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OmegaPyron Finally someone who doesn't hate the mechanic!

    • @Goblin_Hands
      @Goblin_Hands 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I miss when the game was slower, and anything that will do that or hurt spammy decks I can be grateful for. That being said, Zoo and True Dracos/Kings/Dinos are still way too good, and need some serious hits on the banlist. Even some of the other non-extra decks might be bit too strong, but we'll see.

    • @AetherKirin
      @AetherKirin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OmegaPyron I understand a bit.
      Remember the time of where it's really hard to get out Ritual Monsters, and when you did, it was basically like your Ace Monster?
      Welp, guess what? Now people I play against immediately spam out Rituals, and multiple XYZ and Scnchro Monsters with 2700+ Attack, and also can easily remove the cards I tried playing to defend myself. ON THEIR FIRST TURN.
      I admit that I'm also a little guilty of this but as you can easily tell, I really hate spammy decks. I agree with you on what the Link mechanic does.
      Also I really don't get on why everyone is complaining so much. Konami can still make a LINK cards for each Archtype so that they won't be dead. They can also still modfie the rule.
      I'm not going to complain even though I should. For sake, I'm a HERO user. I'm just going to do what I usually do in the past, and just adapt to the mechanic.

  • @AnubisTheMaster
    @AnubisTheMaster 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thing is , its not links monsters that lock the old summon mechanics , its the new RULES , LINK SUMMONS UNLOCKS old summon mechanics

  • @kingdomtrue7008
    @kingdomtrue7008 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a returning player I agree. I always enjoyed reconfiguring my deck but now its just a chore it was fun with pendulum monsters it was a power trip but now its a slog

  • @arturhoffmann1317
    @arturhoffmann1317 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    They had 3 years to devise a new summoning mechanic and than they come up with this Link shit?
    Seriously... I'm sure there could be something better then this. Something which is like an add-on for the game instead of a restriction.

  • @ajemison3
    @ajemison3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    i just dont know why they had to butcher pendulums the way they did. we've had like arguably 2 and a half "tier 1" fully dedicated pendulum decks since theyve been introduced and like 20 flops. if pendulums were so broke shouldnt pendulums have dominated the whole time?

    • @drpepperkingcom
      @drpepperkingcom 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      By that logic, yes. However, a handful of Pendulum decks had Archetype P-Summoning restrictions, or were laughable. If it doesn't fall into these categories, it was a good Pendulum Deck (Exception: Preformapals, but even that was basically a "Infinity or Bust" Deck)

    • @ajemison3
      @ajemison3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      laughable is subjective. It shows that the issue is specific cards and not the mechanic itself. like people thought igknight were gonna be busted, and now with the new rules they become objectively laughable. personally i think that with the new rules all pendulum and pendulum related cards should come off the ban list.

    • @ajemison3
      @ajemison3 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      word, the new rules dick up all the old archetypes more so than "slowing the game down"

    • @ultimetacooler
      @ultimetacooler 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pendulum summoning IS broken. Pendulums are not. Remember PePe? Yeah. Qliphorts? The mechanic of pendulums is 100% broken because you can lose all your monsters one turn and bring them all back the next turn like nothing happened. However with all this said the reason we don't see them is because they have been kept in check, usually they get garbage support and archtypes so it doesn't get a chance to become so overwhelming.

    • @ajemison3
      @ajemison3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its the individual cards bro. you look at any pendulum archetype that was "dominant" and you can point out the cards that "broke" it. 90% of the time it was a card that generated or helped generate ridiculous amounts of advantage. And cards that break advantage mechanics exist for every class of card and are subsequently banned. Being able to "bring the monsters back" means nothing if you lack the resources to bring them out in the first place. Xyz and Synchros only need 2 cards and with those you can further synchro and xyz evolve. with pendulums you need to draw 2 appropriate scales and a monster with a level between the two. These are also hard draws as opposed to being able to fetch the monster from the extra deck adding another layer of possible inconsistency. Out of hand you inherently went negative 2 to get 1 monster where the previous 2 summoning methods are -1 at the worst. Pepe was broken because it had cards that grossly abused its ability to generate advantage in a similar way that zoodiac can/could. You had single cards that would replenish and fuel a pendulum summon by itself and totally negate whatever negative advantage that the summon itself would be. Cards like joker and monkeyboard then interactions of cards like plushfire and luster pendulum in addition to the pot of greed play of just setting scales with lizardraw an guitartle. Pepe was broken because of the cards. With Qliphort however Id argue that its power was attributed to its ability to play under floodgates which crippled the rest of its competition and the fact that qliphort towers had very few reliable outs when it was meta. you even admit it yourself by claiming they are kept in check by bad card design. Its not the mechanic, its konami and the way they continuously bound power creep.

  • @alysesaunders5450
    @alysesaunders5450 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how does cards that allow extra deck summoning won't work anymore?

  • @Osindileyo
    @Osindileyo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im so glad this is over now. finally its fixed....

  • @mutate9248
    @mutate9248 7 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    why the fuck are vehicroids getting new support

    • @shojoe2517
      @shojoe2517 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      baiting people with Nostalgia. Same could also be said about Cyberdarkness dragon- no one I've seen in a bit has play cyberdark monsters in.......forever

    • @drpepperkingcom
      @drpepperkingcom 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same logic as Cyberdarks are getting support. "F*&K IT! WHY NOT!?"

    • @lvl5Vaporeon
      @lvl5Vaporeon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Rattataisop Boiii
      They saw Rata's video.

    • @sluna6434
      @sluna6434 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because in a time of change, sometimes we needed a little bit of retro

    • @Sp0okeh
      @Sp0okeh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but, the new cyber dark dragon is actually useful now. we can equip machines, which the previous dragon should have had in the 1st place.

  • @lvl5Vaporeon
    @lvl5Vaporeon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anyone else feels that Konami will smack anything that doesn't use link summoning?I expect a fallout with true kings, dinosaurs and zoodiac soon.
    Either that or the link summoning mechanic will get a busted ass link monster.

    • @RanserSSF4
      @RanserSSF4 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt they will hit the dinosaur engine (Might happen, but don't want that to happen). They'll most likely hit the true draco/king engine.
      They already have a "busted ass link monster." That monster is Firewall Dragon!

  • @elijahpadilla5083
    @elijahpadilla5083 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Here's some food for thought: the cards that already topped the meta due to their speed are having no issues whatsoever under Link rules. It only really solidly harms the funtimes rogue Decks that needed to make extensive ED plays to even keep up . . . Zoodiac can make multiple Links in a turn if they want to, True Dinosaur had the raw power to ignore it, Lightsworn and Dark World always do their thing with the same relative degree of disregard for whatever is meta at the moment . . . but if you want to play Synchrons, D/D/D, HERO, or Raidraptors, you just have to accept that your Deck won't have as much fun anymore. Oh, yeah, and RIP Burning Abyss.

    • @KyanbuXM
      @KyanbuXM 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elijah Padilla
      Synchron, Blackwings, and D\D\D are actually not affected. its strange I know but they somehow managed to survive the list due to being inharantly Link Summon ready. won't be topping much of at all for a long time though until it's their turn for legacy support again some time in the future.

    • @axis1247
      @axis1247 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      KyanbuXM D/D/D is safe how? the entire archetype are synchros and fusions that facilitate the summoning of other synchros and fusions links definitely get in the way there

    • @nightshroud9671
      @nightshroud9671 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't forget Heavenly Dragons/Zarc and Odd Eyes decks...
      Now the fun of using them will get demolished..

    • @orangejoey1459
      @orangejoey1459 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Axis1247 D/D's are harder to play with links, but it is still possible. Instead of summoning many monsters from the extra deck at once on the field, you use them as materials to later bring them back from your graveyard. Plus, Décode Talker can be brought out to finish your plays. It is way harder than before, but still doable

  • @0Heeroyuy01
    @0Heeroyuy01 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    iv been out for a little but wasn't the rule added that if your opponent summons and blocks off both link summons zones if you extra deck summon it goes to the main monster zone now?

  • @TheToaprimezilla
    @TheToaprimezilla 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If we aren't using link monsters can we go back to the old rules aka old field layout? Because I use elemental heroes.
    Also aren't there extra deck monsters that require 2 or more extra monsters like A-Z it requires ABC and XYZ to be out but because if the link summoning rule it's impossible to summon A-Z.
    So I hope this new rule is only if we are using link monsters

  • @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni
    @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gotta be real good for Monarch decks!

  • @komujimaru
    @komujimaru 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    IF WE ALL JUST SIMPLY STRIKE AGAINST THIS SHIT. THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN, but no we continually give konami Money for all their absurd actions. good erratas and a fully addressed ban list could save this game

  • @christopherangott1193
    @christopherangott1193 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two questions: 1.) when pendulum summoning, can you summon the monsters on the field or do you summon one and put it in the Extra Monster Zone? 2.) If the Link monster gets destroyed and you have lets say a Xyz monster in one pointed spot and a Fusion monster in another pointed spot, do they also get destroyed?

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good questions...idk

  • @DBsaisonslover
    @DBsaisonslover 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick question: I play a quasar deck IRL, I have no money to refresh my deck, when links came out, how to play quasar without links?

  • @allovertheworld5048
    @allovertheworld5048 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    THE LINK SUMMON OR HOW I LIKE TO CALL IT THE GREED OF KONAMI

    • @allovertheworld5048
      @allovertheworld5048 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      #FUCKTHELINKSUMMON

    • @tarikfretes5970
      @tarikfretes5970 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ADAM CASTLE fuck that peace of shit 😡🖕

    • @xbotscythe
      @xbotscythe 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use the basic Link Strike deck because I have nothing else (I just started Yu-Gi-Oh!, I am just waiting to get my soon-to-be main deck, the Crystal Beasts deck), its not bad, but flipping Mirror Force on someone just gives you that pleasure

    • @Timidogenerico
      @Timidogenerico 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are you all talking about? all this started back when the sincro monster appeared. maybe you didnt notice, but as a player that leave the game when using extra deck fusion monsters were optional, i notice that now you have to buy 2 decks to play the game it's ridiculus.

  • @brathering8644
    @brathering8644 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Link Synchro/XYZ/Fusion Hybrids would maybe work

  • @Poetic_Justice92
    @Poetic_Justice92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember a time when people used unique decks. Now everyone seems to want to use the same meta decks to try and get quick wins so I imagine it's got to be extremely boring at championships if everyone is using the same type of decks. It seems all Konami is doing is sucking the fun out of a game that was great the way it was before all these new summoning mechanics were introduced. I miss the days when rituals and fusions were some of the best cards.

    • @joshelderkin9592
      @joshelderkin9592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do yourself a favor and look up old yugioh top decks lmfao there was like two at a for like 6 years

    • @joshelderkin9592
      @joshelderkin9592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also rituals were never good in old yugioh outside of relinquished

  • @eshiithefennec
    @eshiithefennec 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    from what i saw the anime, wasn't these monsters used just in Speed Duels?

  • @nikosUrrok
    @nikosUrrok 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cimooo what is your thoughts will HAT deck be decent on Link format?

  • @alirezaghasemabady5832
    @alirezaghasemabady5832 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    link summoning needs more time in a year everybody is gonna be playing at least 3 link monsters

    • @Philip7710
      @Philip7710 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alireza Ghasemabady because it will be necesary to play the game it will still be horse shit regardless of if people use them or not

  • @DD-uk1ct
    @DD-uk1ct 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No synchro were okay, and nobody was fcking worried about xzy's because you could only use their effect up like 2-4 times. But if you say that everybody thought that synchro and xzy's were op, then the op are being overpowered. Besides, it is ruining many decks, that means that a lot of decks wont be playable, so most people have to give up their loved decks and just play some countering meta shit against link.

    • @jangaman7823
      @jangaman7823 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretadox isnt that always the case. All decks get broken 1 day. To make way for other decks

    • @Philip7710
      @Philip7710 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Janga Man true but in the past when other decks got broken the old ones could still do their thing that is no longer the case now if i want to play my synchrons for example i pretty much cant

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless you find like-minded people who prefer MR3, then you can group up with them and play in MR3 Format outside of events.

  • @aminebachir3394
    @aminebachir3394 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    then they solemn strike my link monster :(

  • @justtellmethetruth7377
    @justtellmethetruth7377 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    When does all this link summoning go into effect? I haven't seen any "Link Summon" decks/profiles online or in regionals.

  • @maggyyolokraut1941
    @maggyyolokraut1941 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    one question would that mean that decks like domain monarcs, kaijus and kozmo would be tear 1

  • @ahero3945
    @ahero3945 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good bye toadally awesome heroes, no more first turn dark law, bahamut shark, and toadally awesome

    • @ufukcangencoglu2279
      @ufukcangencoglu2279 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And hello the turn 1 triple Firewall Dragon.

    • @jadyazbeck6089
      @jadyazbeck6089 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      My gagaga and battlin boxers just bit the dust

  • @skerion7956
    @skerion7956 7 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    links are so bad they gave me a virus

    • @coldwintersknight9793
      @coldwintersknight9793 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Skerion was it the crush card virus? O.o

    • @crzydvd
      @crzydvd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      a deck devastation virus

    • @Cimoooooooo
      @Cimoooooooo  7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      A Full Force Virus or an Eradicator Epidemic Virus?

    • @PaladinfffLeeroy
      @PaladinfffLeeroy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It will be an Epidemic.

    • @cherrybansx7398
      @cherrybansx7398 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Evilswarm virus. You like my memes cimo senpai?~