IMPROVED USAF Anti-Ship & SEAD Attack vs Russia's Black Sea Fleet (WarGames 104B) | DCS
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- We use DCS World to re-simulate the effect of a large USAF aerial anti-ship strike on the Russian Black Sea naval fleet. The strike includes F-22 Raptor, F-35 Lighting II and F-15E Eagle with AGM-158C LRASM missiles. Russia defends with Su-35 Flanker and Su-57 Felon. This time we add Ukrainian Mig-29 Fighters with AGM-88G AARGMER modern anti-radiation missiles to tackle Russia's S-400 SAM batteries.
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Hey Cap in the hopes you see this I wanted to say that I am a infantry Marine who was disabled on my combat deployment to Afghanistan and I wanted you and all the GR team to know that you bring lots of joy to my life as well as some of the other guys who came back with me in 2012. Just wanted to throw some appreciation your way. Semper Fi.
Thank You for your Service and Sacrifice. Simper Fi.
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Always good to hear from an expert at killing people and breaking their stuff. Semper Fi
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Important thing to note about the agm-88G, it's planned to be implemented into the internal weapons bay of the F-35A and F-35C, which the current HARM cannot fit into with its large fins. F-35 would be a radically more capable SEAD platform than a Gen-4 aircraft because of its stealth, sensor fusion, and datalink capabilities.
Edit: Senpai noticed me
Honestly F35 seems like the ultimate SEAD platform.
All it lacked was an ARM
There are a few other things which the game doesnt model, for example Growlers (and other SEAD aircraft pods) providing wide area-jam to cover allied aircraft as well as their personal self defense jamming capability, Europeans introducing active radar decoys into chaff dispensers like Britecloud over the last decade as well as the Praetorian DASS Eurofighter defensive aids upgrade including a towed decoy (introduced around 2000 for UK/Italy and a rival system called EURODASS introduced from Tranche 4 for Germany/Spain). US having a few aircraft with towed decoys installed like the AN/ALE-50 since the late 90's and then starting around 2010 towed decoys also started being included in the ALQ-184(V)9 ECM pod.
@@watcherzero5256 да,а также обаружение таких самолетов радарами L диапозона.Реальность такова что на дальности больше 200 км по ним уже будет открыт огонь из ЗРС
@@cockatoo010 Nope, if its not detected on radar theres little reason to turn the radars on... a good SEAD aircraft is visible to bait out shots and force radar to be turned on.
*F-35 crashes out of nowhere*
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It's really nice how you interact with those who leave comments. Some channels treat their viewers like scum when all they have done is take an interest. BZ GR.
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Rumor has it that Cannonball is still chasing the AI SU-35 to this day.
Yup, Fox 4 is all that’s left 😂
In the videos of S-400 failing to defend targets against GMLRS, we often see the S-400 firing, we see the misisles launch against the incomming Missiles, then we see the Missiles hit anyway. Meaning it's not that Russia chose not to intercept for economic reasons, they very much did attempt, they simply did not succeed
Long range air defense is not supposed to intercept GMLRS. GMLRS fires 1-2 packages with 6-12 missiles, S-300/400/500 has only 4 missiles, which intended to shot down much more advanced aerial targets, like stealth aircrafts. They use short range air defense, like Pantsir-S, instead, but it supposed to be located near the strike target.
Recently video with Pantsir-S shot down 12 Himars missiles and photos of unexploded shrapnel from himars missiles was uploaded
@@schrodinger_cat-d9h but He see's it! Often no less? Oh wait no he does not ..... maybe he could post a link? I looked on google but the videos are all related to the Patriots failures, starting with SCUDs in 1991 with a interception rate of less that 5% and then many videos of Saudi patriots attacking a 7-11... maybe its like your cat? its hitting the target and missing it at the same time?
I've got a story for you Cap. Around the late 90's early 2000 Tally Defence Systems in Mesa,Az closed down their mesa headquarters and moved just down the road after merging with NAMMO making it now NAMMO-TALLY DEFENSE. This is the crazy part. They dropped the the "big"ball and walked away from the building and left it to the wolves.The price for scrap steel was at its highest so originally I was there for the solid steel commercial grade doors. Then I started looking around and noticed punk kids had trashed everything. Tipping desks and filing cabinets over ablivious to the content inside. 30 offices in a huge two story building on 10 acres. It was hard to keep your balance sliding around on the hundreds and hundreds of "FILES AND FLOPPY DISKS" containing all the missile systems, formulas for propellants and explosives and the results of all the years and years of testing these systems. Absolute irresponsibility at the highest level. The Chinese would be creaming rice pudding for this content. So as we speak I looked into the abandoned building on Google. Someone had posted pics on Flickr only to have the entire story removed. Google "NAMMO" for some valued content regarding defense systems. Valued Grim Reaper viewers have heard it here first since I've never disclosed this info to any other souls. God bless America. That is all.
One thing about the AGM-88G, you mentioned that I would be used in real life to shut down sam radars, the AGM-88g has advanced senors that allow it to target a radar that is not emitting. It uses triangulation and arh in the terminal phase. You can look at some videos on the AARGM published by ATK if you are curious. Not that this really matters in game due to level of modeling.
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@@BBCRF it's not though, if you actually bothered to read up on AARGM you would know. The thing can be fired at GPS coordinates, and uses GPS/INS to triangulate the position of a radar even with only a short burst of emission. Once in terminal the millimeter wave radar actives, finds and locks onto the radar before killing it.
Another grand slam by Cap and the boys (and girl) The best part is the human controlled aircraft and seeing each unique fighting styles. Violet Moon is a little hellion while all the boys have their levels of aggression and tactics. Some play the 'cloak & dagger" style combat, some are swinging a heavy club and some mix of both. All skilled. All make you think "thank God they're on our side". And Cap's play by play and analysis is the icing on the cake.
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Should've used the R77M not the -1, as the Americans get to use the Aim260, a missile that is not in service yet.
not even r77m , where is r37m? there is physical evidence of that being used extensively in ukraine (ukraine also said this). su35/mig31 and even su57 can use them. it would work on su57 as it is still somewhat stealthy and at really far ranges its stealth still might help it and would be hard for a 4.5 gen to spot it from like 200km +.
Staggering the spawns of the f-15 with a minute or two between sets of 2 or 4 would help with the missile oversaturation, the issue comes from them all noticing the enemy on radar at essentially the same time
Roger, hinesight.
@@grimreapers I'd wager the massive range of aim-260 exacerbated it because it gives a lot of time between missile launch and hit, that sea of missiles was quite a site though, it'd be neat to see that go out against an airborne blob of red planes
Well, they would need to be staggered a great deal, seeing as how the missile takes a few seconds to get there.
@@grimreapers maybe also have them come in on different vectors, from both sides of the F35 formation. that way theyre not all in one place
Yeah, this could work as well as my suggestion, varying the firing ranges of different waves of fighters. Infact, this might be better as it could be more precisely timed.
One important aspect of the AARGM-ER is that it fits inside the internal bomb bay of the F-35.
Capt, the planning must take ages. Thank you all.
To limit the waste of air to air can you just spawn squadrons in at various points in time along the predicted progress of the lead aircraft rather than having one mass attack?
SEAD isn't just anti-radiation missiles, it's also jamming, command/control-link degradation, strikes on airfields. The attacking aircraft will not all come from the same compass points. I realize you are trying to make it simple, but simple isn't how US fights.
Air launched decoys aswell.
Great concept and a lot of work put into it, but limited by what the game will allow. No bases to RTB to, no deconfliction in targeting, AI's that aren't that smart. But within those limitations the GR team had down excellent work. I would love to see them get a chance to do something without being ham-strung by the current limits to the tech
Are they actually “AI”? Or are they NPCs? Seems to be more like NPCs. Unless they’re just really bad AI
Actually as it turned out, legacy AGM-88 given to Ukraine seem to be perfectly capable of taking out many different Russian SAMs.
Second thing - there are several videos out there with Russian SAMs trying to shoot down GMLRS (and or HARMS). On many of these vids you can see that some missiles get shot down but some get through despite interceptors fired at them.
Third - Russian manufacturer's OFFICIAL specifications for their SAM systems state their Pk against cruise missile type targets around 0.6. That's why they almost always say that you engage this type of targets with a salvo of two missiles. And that's why you can sometimes see a Pk vs cruise missile at around 0.8 with an asterisk*
* Pk for a salvo of two missiles.
So yes, does this or that system intercept this or that missile. Yeah, probably it can. But what is Pk going to be against a small Mach 3 or 4 missile if it's 0.6 against a huge slow cruise missile?
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I really enjoy all the hard work and commentary. Especially, Cap. Your comments and narration really make this an extra enjoyable watch! I learn a lot about different military systems and tactics and have a few chuckles along the way. Thank you Grim Reapers for all you do!
Cap - Sidewinders haven't recorded a single kill - Violet: I had a kill with a sidewinder. Cap - very quiet - oh ... Good kill Violet !
I imagine SEAD would be run from very, very high altitudes. I say this because the HARM will get a lock whenever the SAM gets a lock on the fighter, so you launch from the SAM's outermost range, you turn cold and go home. The missile does the rest. The SAM operator is now trying to maintain a lock on you, with no real idea a missile is coming for him - and even if he does realize a HARM has been launched, and he turns his radar off, the AGM-88 impacts the radar signals last known location. It's almost a guaranteed kill for the HARM, but the SAM missile is never going to catch up to the fighter .
Harm’s do not need lock on the parent aircraft, just that the enemy radar is turned on and searching
If anything like the last one should be great. Off to the big screen for this one 👍
I think something must be wrong with those F-15EXs or the AIM-260. I don't think I've ever seen that number of wasted missiles fired even with the AI that can't coordinate between each other.
Great battle! Thanks for the improved version!
Dear Cap & GR Crew,
Out of curiosity, would you ever consider doing historical vignettes on some of the GR staples like Damp, Grump, or Simba? As in, their history with aircraft and how they became a Grim Reaper?
I’d actually like to know about the guys/gal too - great idea
Romania has Patriot rockets. USA operates a large shield in Romania, with 24 SAM3 interceptors. You shall consider this too, I guess.
You guys deserve more viewers! These are always awesome and looks like it takes a lot of work to set up
I suppose in the interest of fairness we’ll have to see how the US 6th fleet (Mediterranean) deals with a Russian attack.
Lol I’d love to see that too
easy.
if the Americans get all the human pilots, the Americans will win.
if the Russians get all the human pilots, the Americans will all sink.
In the interest of 'fairness', the most important thing they need to do is allocate the human pilots fairly.
Agm-88g has been designed to fit into the F35 weapons bay, which is why they changed the body.
Nice! Can't wait to see a proper SEAD strike on a full S400 site with F-35s carrying the AGM-88G and everything. Interesting to speculate how much of a difference a stealth coating could make with it...
If you do a video like this, I would like to see multiple trials; one with the HARM carried by 4th Gen, one with F-35s carrying the HARM and using the stealth to get as close as safely possible before firing, one with F-35s as before but the HARMs have a minor stealth coating, and so on.
Loving the content as usual!
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It's not the cost of the missiles, but the value of the target that is the main determinant of whether an action is cost-effective. I know it is a limitation of your gaming hardware and software. But, I think back to the opening of Desert Storm to imagine what this would have really looked like. Cyber attacks, waves of JASSM-ER and Tomahawk cruise missiles intermixed with decoys launched by heavy bombers, ships and submarines. Radar suppressed and spoofed by Wild Weasel and other ECM aircraft while holes are punched in the radar warning net by attack helicopters and commando teams allowing stealth aircraft to attack command and control nodes and SAM sites while attack aircraft, more bombers and ships unleash more cruise missiles and precision guided bombs on the Black Sea fleet and other targets. Top cover is provided by F-22s. Dozens of tankers would be standing by to refuel aircraft that require it.
I am surprised you can't just add a base to the map.
Agreed.
My suggestion if you do something similar again, and I don’t know if the program can represent it, is that the USAF and USN would make relatively heavy use of MALD-J and JASSM to attack an IADS along with the AARGM.
I suspect the format would look something like this.
You can launch MALD and JASSSM at the target since they travel at roughly the same speed. In real life there are likely MALD variants with small warheads that would be fine but if not JASSM would do the job. Depending on the platform I can carry 6-8 MALD for each JASSM. Let’s say we send 4 F-15E with two JASSM and 8 MALD.
I would essentially chase those inbound with a flight of 8 F-35. 4 are flying up at medium altitude with AARGM’s internal. Turn on the MALD-J when you cross into range of the S-400. Fire off your AARGM once the S-400 is heavily engaged with the MALD/JASSM.
My other 4 F-35 are smoking in low and not far behind the MALD/JASSM mess. The and pickle off SDB at all the surviving constituent parts of the S-400 while the top cover F-35’s keep firing AARGM at any radars that pop up just to discourage them.
I may lose a few planes today. But if I well and good kill your system by getting in close with SDB I start way ahead tomorrow.
The reason that the f-22's would fly ahead of the strike package is because that's standard procedure. Usaf don't do close escorting. A common tactic is wall of raptors/eagles flying ahead of the strike package.
Cap, I was just thinking about your missile wastage problem: As I understand it you always set planes to fire at maximum range: would it be possible to have only the front rank of planes to fire at max range, and subsequent planes fire at a middle or otherwise shorter range? This should emulate 'deconfliction' by preventing the bank ranks firing missiles at planes the front ranks have already fired on as soon as they come into range. Then by the time the front planes are winchester and RTB the second and third waves will be firing more effectively. Dunno if you can set this only by airframe type or by squadron, but if you can change it up in this way it may help!
Yes this may be a solution.
Outstanding plan mate
@@grimreapers Great, I hope so! I love these kinds of mass assault and defense missions, I would enjoy seeing more of them. Keep up the great work!
Actually they are not shooting down Himars with S-400 because they launch at the same time cheaper Grad rockets that also show up in their radar as decoys.
I really enjoyed that cap. Fun to watch.think I will buy a GR sticker now.very sexy fight 😉
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about 14 minutes in i'm shouting GET THE S400S BEFORE THEY RELOAD!!
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14:26, pretty sure you're wrong, Cap. The US has not given Ukraine any unguided M26 rockets, because they are cluster munition only. Informed speculation is that the software on Russian S-400 systems simply isn't suited to intercepting GMLRS rockets due to them not acting like either air breathing threats, or theater ballistic missiles, and unable to differentiate them from short range artillery rockets. Check out Ryan McBeth's channel, "HIMARS on Russian Radar - how does it get through?"
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Great way to spend a Tues night.
More Canadian stuff please? 🇨🇦 Veteran
Agreed. We could do a mission where Russian SU-57s fly in to secretly steal Canada’s gold reserves….oh wait 😂 jk
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Holy Molly one of mine was there, wow TY, I'm so keen to see this one!
Tom Clancy discussed the idea of using drones to draw missile fire in Red Storm Rising, and how to clobber a fleet at sea.
Here it looks like you ran the same idea with the ARMs - make the SAM sites waste resources, clearing the way for bombers and ASMs.
Thanks!
That R-74 super bending to kill Violet was amazing to watch!!
Nice rerun on this scenario.
Have you guys checked out that new mod the Saab SK60. No idea what it could be used for but seems like it would be similar in capabilities as an A-4.
Love seeing the beautiful humans flying into battle in formation! So epic!
May I suggest the chicken pasta bake
Have you looked into Command: Modern operations? The game may be on a better engine to handle large scale battles like this.
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Weird one of my comments disappeared. What I men't was one flight of Stealth fighters escorting 2 B-21 Raiders or 2 B-2 Spirts. One out of Poland and the other out of Turkey.
"In the future".....I could see an AGM-?? Advanced Loitering ARM (ALARM) launched as the manned aircraft enter the SAM net. Then the missile waiting for the SAM site lighting off their radars, and attacking at that point.
Great videos. It seems that every wargame like this you have everything moving linear (let me just say I have no clue how difficult these are to set up or script). It would be interesting to see a more asymmetric attack from different directions (refueling simulated etc) against the modern defenses.
@grimreapers Call me crazy, but I love the re-games more than a lot of the other content. The initial videos are great first guesses and mythbusting, but then refined mechanics and comment response cloudthought come in and change the script. #Collaborative!
“Ukrainian World Heritage Site” Moskva - LOL good one Grump 😂😂
and with that being a thing i would guess 80% of the systems on those ships wouldn't be working. If their flagship had so much wrong with it, the rest of the fleet has to be in bad shape as well.
Just like I said last video, cruise missiles would be used to destroy SAM sites. Overwhelming firepower.
AGM-88G can be hold onside F-35A/C's internal bay
I believe he said the missile is still a work in progress for the mod so they couldn't add it to anything else other than the MIG atm.
In real life, the AIM-260 with quarterback and/or awacs will de-conflict themselves
agree
I know they can't really do it in game but modern ECM is quite a game changer. There's a reason the US has Growlers, etc.
I think there is a difference between S400 being capable of shooting down himars, and the russians being capable of shooting down himars. Ukraine is a crowded complex airspace and conducting surface to air warfare is very complex. Highly skilled and trained operators are required, and I dont think russian has that.
thing is i think irl s400s are only intercepting himars that are a threat to main objectives. like if its heading for themself or to an important base(which is close to them) anyways its easier to intercept if its coming for u or a base close to you. makes sense on why they dont intercept random himars strike on infantry/tanks etc
@@hemendraravi4787 yea maybe, but 300 troops in a barracks surely would warrent interception? I know the russians have a flagrant disregard for their troops but thats extreme even for them.
Cap what you could do is have a armada of refueling tankers to keep the planes out of missiles flying until end of the match.
the LRASM is legit impressive Lockheed Martin does good work
I saw an article the other day that they are not having conformal tanks on the f15ex, and took them off some f16es in service in place of f15cs that are being withdrawn. Seen some f15s with bare sides with the tanks femoved.
Would having the fighters approach in waves do anything to throttle the missile spam?
Was waiting for "... and the Kamchatka" when naming the fleet. If you know, you know
Awesome battle
SuperCap, thank you and the guys for all that you do! I know that it probably takes hours to setup these missions ya'll do in verifying that all the information is correct. Hats off to all of you! I like the Ukraine/Russia simulations, the Vietnam setups and the history reenactments you do. I do have 1 request if possible though. I was a big fan of the movie "Red Dawn" and watched the video ya'll put out about it, but was wondering if you could redo it? More of the movie actions like the ambushes, attacks and other interesting events in the movie like the Hind. Also the 2nd Rambo movie I believe where he stole the Hind and attacked the camp as well as the 3rd one where he was in Afghanistan with the HUGE fight at the end, and maybe the movie "Blue Thunder" and some more of your King of the Hill segments and Carrier Command! Long list of a ton more hours of planning but VERY GOOD follow through from your Team!
You could de-conflict the F15s by staggering their arrival times. Group them in flights of four, arrange the flights in a line with distance between, so the flights arrive 'in-range' at intervals. Say, every 90 seconds?
love the auto expert accent
Have u guys nerfed the Russian equipment after seeing its performance in Ukraine
No, I don't believe anything has been nerfed. Essentially, whenever Russia is involved in a video like today, you have to watch the battles play out and then take into consideration the US/NATO/Ukranian side would have done even better than they did because DCS gives Russia too much credit hah.
@@jamison884 wet dreams..
We've reduced S-400 effective range from 250 miles to 150 miles and changed R-37M. That's all thought.
Another thing to plan for in these missions is the flight paths of the stealths. The detection bubbles of the s400 radars should be mapped to their effectiveness against stealth and then the planes should fly between the gaps to avoid detection.
Place a few USDestroyers in between too offer anti air cover and fire some cruise missiles at s-300 sites easy fix for friendly’s
maybe the problem with spamming so many missile and missing is setting the missile engagement to max range? maybe set engagement to 85% range if that's even possible?
i wonder how the SPEAR-EW would perform...
its basically a mini cruise missile with a range of like 140km, a Eurofighter could carry 18 of them(with fuel tanks only 12) and an F-35 could carry 8(in a fully stealthy loadout, they're all carried internally 4 per bay).
might be worth testing as a kind of "how would the UK fare against a russian sam net"
When this has been gamed out, (recently.) the USAF has used a package of 4 X B-1Bs with LRASM, and a group of F- 15Es with JASSM, and a group of F-35s loaded for SEAD. This effectively kills the entire Black Sea fleet in one go.
7:22 wish you'd mix it up a bit and used The SU-30SM for one of those spawn points instead especially when Russia has more of em and uses them more lol again plus variety makes for entertainment ;)
14:39 lmao it is when it needs to be fired to protect itself
Would’ve been great to see mostly human players and very limited AI on both the US and Russian side. Both sides would’ve played it much more intelligently and tactically. Although, sadly, this is a difficult thing to achieve.
One big problem is that the russian pilots in the simulation are far better than what they would actually be, considering the massive difference in flight hours between US pilots and their russian counterparts.
@@demomanchaos exactly
This is really nice.
Is there any capability to add electronic warfare to a simulation like this? Wouldn't proper SEAD include growlers?
Would’ve been interesting see Su-35’s implement EW, since they are equipped with such tech, although I’m not sure of how much EW the Russians put into it, but it would surely make a difference.
@@rebelliousfew Agreed, I've yet to mess with anything like that, and I know the JF-17 has a dedicated jamming pod, but how well modeled is jamming in DCS?
Would be interesting to see a mod of the jsm, which can also be stored internally on the A & C model.
14:30 I'm not necessarily convinced by this argument, considering that we're only looking at the cost of the missile unit price tag, rather than the destructive capabilities that could be stopped. Sure, a HIMARS rocket is much cheaper than an S-400 missile, but what if that thing lands right into a critical ammo dump, or a Russian barracks (though that's probably the same thing lol). The cost of letting that missile through can potentially be catastrophically higher than expending an S-400 missile to intercept it.
I myself am convinced that the S-400 in real life just flat out does not live up to its advertised capabilities.
These videos are awesome when Cap is in telling the story as he is in God mode and can provide views from all the platforms! When Cap only provides the view from the plane he is flying, the videos are just OK. If Cap's goal is to make money on this channel and attract the most viewers, then he should do all his videos like this one.
You really need to do this scenario with the humans on the Russian side (or spread between the sides). Like most of these 'what if' scenarios you make up, victory does not go to who has the best equipment, the best tactical position, or anything like that - its purely down to who gets the human pilots. Probably the worst example was one not too long ago, iirc it was a Russian anti-ship missile attack against Americans, and the Russians totally and utterly dominated the Americans and got all their anti ship missiles out, only for a couple of pesky human pilots to fly in and shoot down all the missiles - and this was recorded as a victory for the Americans. Imagine this scenario if the Russians had a couple of humans escorting the Russian fleet loaded out with R73s and could easily shoot down all the approaching LRASMs.....
For the AI F15s, can you simulate an RTB by having them return to a waypoint then de-spawn without it counting against your score board?
The AGMG ER has a range of 300km or 186 nmi
About the S-400: I can kind of see your point about it not shooting down HIMARS rockets, but it's also firing at and failing to take down attack drones. If it can't even take down a slow-moving, non-stealthy drone, then how much of a threat does it truly present to modern jet fighters, even those slightly outdated such as the F-15?
That's actually a issue with their IFF. S-400 can shoot down a F-15 alright but there is a risk that it will hit a Su-27 instead like they did at the air base that was twice attacked by drones before they had said red on red incident.
@@Suojeluninja Where’s your evidence that it can shoot down an F-15? And before you answer, remember that Russian propaganda is Russian propaganda.
most radars have a filter that ignores slow flying objects (to avoid shooting down birds and fast moving cars)
@@TBH-nu2so You should also try to filter our the Western propaganda that appears to be influencing your judgement on Russian equipment, S-400 is one of the best AD systems in the world otherwise there won't be a big line of buyers lined up, where's your evidence it failed to shoot down a drone?
@@TBH-nu2so That is not what he meant, he meant the one incident where Ukraine used drones to hit a Russian base led to them shooting down one of their own, no F-15 involved.
Time for my daily GR vid. Supercap consistency
weird, when i try anti ship config in F35 for me it crashes my pc.
Bring out the mini drones!!
What I don't really understand is that Flanker and Lomac had all the Crimea bases, yet they removed it all when flaming cliffs came and added the caucasus instead. They should have just kept the old bases and use the newer textures. Almost 0 additional work....
I still don't see why the anti ship missiles have to be carried by F-35s and not B-2s. Use the F-35s for ground attack and air superiority.
Because B2 will be detected by s400
It’s not an air superiority aircraft, that is the F22s role. Of course it can BVR fight well and has HOBS Aim 9Xs but it’s a strike aircraft first.
Lol, if anyone can attest, does an AWACS see the tanks come off a jet on Radar? It would be funny if an F-22 dropped its tanks and it would look at long range like the plane is the tanks
One thing i did note was you mentioned 7 Gorshkovs. Currently the Black Sea fleet only has 3 Grigorivich's active. Only threeGorshkovs have been built and two are active in the Northern fleet. Having half the number of advanced frigates may be more realistic next time.
Most of the missiles the americans used done even exist yet. S400 batteries werent defended by anything else. There were 128 AShM fired. The vast majority of the unrealism in this is in favour of the americans.
@@lukio12 Both the AIM-260 and AARGM-ER are both in existence. AIM-260 is just not in full rate production yet. AARGM-ER has been test fired multiple times.
I do agree though that the realism isnt the point here.
Wouldn't there be definitely Mig31's involved?
cap, ukrainian migs are using older HARMs, the new AARGM-ER would be used on F-35s
Amazing! Amazing battle! I cant wait for the US/UK vs RUS/CHN CSG battle as well as for the British fleet! Will you model the ongoing Type 26 Frigates? UK building them actually 1 is almost finished the HMS Glasgow(Now its on the outfitting phase and will be combat ready around Q3 2023. Its mainly an anti-sub frigate but it is capable of anti-air and anti-shipping. It will be fitted with 3x24 VLS Launchers, 2x24 will be the Sea Ceptor(for anti-air) and 1x24 VLS for anti-shipping(Naval Strike Missiles) The Type 45 Destroyers will also get 8x Naval Strike Missiles(Upgrade to the Harpoon basically)
*Their fleet looks better at the bottom of the Black Sea.*
Pretty sure the point of the F-22 is to go in BEFORE the non stealth aircraft, not with or after...
Just wondering why some of the F-22’s weren’t used to super cruise forward and take out the AWACS?
Great simulation 👍💪
Although I believe it was tarnished by the fact that a human command would not deplete two entire S-400 SAM sites to fight off a wave of under average SEADs, most probably the sites would have some secondary shorter range AA to defend it from that.
As you said a 1.5 million S-400 (a 12m long missile...) would not be fired to shoot down a little 50k incoming outdated SEAD, these missiles are fired against reasonable targets I believe.
Is the MALD-J decoy modeled in DCS? Even today it would be a natural part of a US strike package, drawing fire from SAMs and fighters causing them to expend missiles and assets.
Now that you have a money counter in game, please create some Red Team/Blue Team scenarios where each side has 1 billion to spend on assets however they see fit to achieve an opposing objective, and then see who wins.
Good idea 👍