You will never go wrong by choosing an Oneida dust collector. Mine is almost 30 years old and is as good as the day I purchased it from Oneida. Good video.
I bought a used delta single stage system several years ago and I still haven't installed it! I need to just do it, but it's a lot more work than just using a shop vac. Unlike all you incredible woodworkers, I just don't do enough woodworking to justify the setup. This was an informative video, and I'm excited you've got something that will work for you
Thanks for sharing.this definitely helps as a new woodworker I’m looking for a dust collector for my shop I’m setting up and the more I watch about the super cell I think it’s the one I need to save up my money for.
If you want performance on par or actually a little better than the Supercell due to increased filter surface area then a hybrid system with a Record Power CamVac/Oneida Super Dust Deputy and a canister filter might be a good option. The CamVac has 3- 1kw 220v motors and only cost about $800. Everything else added still comes in at less than ½ what the Supercell cost.
Have you actually done a comparison of the Record Power vs the Oneida Supercell? There are also two Supercells, one being a Turbo model. YOu should also let folks know when you post these kinds of messages that this Record Power product is out of the UK so not sure about local sellers. I can say out of all the years of doing woodworking and working with DC systems, never ever heard once about Record Power. I have since found a few vidoes for the Camvac based on your comment about the company however most of the videos are from the same youtuber (ethanswers from Stockroom Supply based out of Canada whom is a company that sellls the camvac.)who works for . One site I just found for rhe Camvac shows $1200 for 90l or 24gallons with no accessories added. If you want the 200L (55gallon) barrel you are looking at $1,835. If you get the larger unit there is no wheel kit accessory. The wheel accessory to wheel the 90L unit unit around is $99, NanoMax CV Cartridge FIlters for Camvac Dust Extractors (3 motor) is a $329 cost. No filters to buy/replace on the oneida. ANother item is iVAC Pro Dust Collector Remote Switch With Contactor for Camvac Dust Extractors for a whopping $340. The same accessories except the wheel kit are available for the larger model If you get all the additional accessories you are looking at another almost $800 ontop of the $1835. The oneida has the built in remote capability and other features not found in the Camvac. Pricing looks about the same to me with a much better built unit with no mess at all to deal with as well as more horse power. The camvac comes wiht just a 6.5 foot hose. 1 k motor converts to about 1hp on the US side of metrics. So 3 motors at 1k is about 3.5hp whereas the oneida is 5hp. The video I watched also shows what a mess it is to cleanup and empty and clean out or replace filters. It has a cloth filter as well. One of the things I saw in the video was that the 3 bags wrapped over the motors and hanging off the lid connected to the lid are long and when the lid is placed on the dust barrel, the motors with the bags over them take sup about 35 to 40% of the space in the barrel. So when you put the lid back on those bages over take up a huge amount of space in the dust bin where the dust is collected. I did a bunch of digging and cannot find any comparisons of the Camvac with any Oneida system. Oneida does make many other DC systems as well. However, the Supercell is a different technology compared to other high volume dust systems. ANother thing I noticed in any videos of the camvac is that not a single thing is mentioned about hooking up the camvac to an existing system of duct work. Maybe you can do some additional research and commenting to backup your statement. I read your comment and dug into this product and not seeing your statement to be true. Matter of fact, when you have more filter surface area that additional filtering can actually drastically affect the air flow therefor reducing the power of the suction.
One other note about the 3 stage filter system they call it on the camvac. They only call it that because there are three motors and each has a brown paper bag wrapped around the motor. Then those motor are hanging down into the bin that the lid rests on and inside of that bin is a cloth filter bag. Calling it 3 stage is a bit of a stretch because there is no "cyclone" affect at all. Most dust collection system or single stage systems that people convert tow two stage include a cyclone. The dust would get caught in an unfiltered cyclone and drop most of the dust and chips into a dust bin. Meanwhile the air flows into a filter then air continues on to blow the air back out of the system. There is generally a separate pleated filter after passing the cyclone that trpas the fine dust and that two has a plastic bag usually or another small buckt below it to catch additional fine dust. With the cam vac all the chips, dust and fine dust are sucked into a single barrel and with the 90l holding only 24 gallons and 4 motors wrapped with filters and the bag filter all in one barrel will drastically reduce the amouint of dust that you can collect before having to empty the barrel, pull the bag tilder out of the barrel and shake the hell out of it which will through dust everywhere and then follow up with an air blower then also blow out the three separate bags for each motor. A system like Oneida and others have build their systems to reduce that mess and provide for a cleaner environment. Now the Camvac does seem to be a very powerful shopvac with better filtering but also very messy. If I want to get more room for my dust with a camvac I have to ugrade to the 200L model which is a almost $700 upgrade from thee 90L unit. I am also shcoked how Record Power only provides a 6.5 foot host no matter what model you buy.
@@BruceAUlrich I am just about ready to order and realized that the Turbo is 5 dbs louder and also requires a 30A 220v circuit. According to Oneida it looks like the regular Supercell should meet my needs quite well. Can you tell me a bit about your experience with the noise level of the regular unit 80 dbs? Thanks
Huge Oneida fan, I own the Supercell with 30 gal drum. Can’t recommend it more. Cleaning the shop with a 30’ hose is awesome. That said, using it on a random orbit sander (or domino, etc) is absurd. You don’t need 5HP, plus your shop will turn into a furnace LOL. Get a Festool CT or Midi or if you hate Festool look to 3M. Those are the right tools for that job.
That looks like a sweet dust collector! I save money by using every horizontal surface to collect all my sawdust. lol I really want to get a dust collector, but I don’t trust the janky electrical setup in my shop to run more than one machine at once. Thanks for sharing Bruce!
Great video definitely a big help been looking at dust collection systems and this Oneida one has become the front runner was looking at that in the Laguna but the more I watch videos on it. The Oneida seems to be a better system so thanks for sharing.
Ive had the oneida on my wishlist until i sold my powermatic. I'll be buying the turbo version this month. Now I'm wondering if i even need my festool ct26 in the shop 😮
You have answered every question I have had. Thanks for the review! So many elaborate but never talk about the varying sizes and review coming from basic dust collector that almost anything can beat. My wife wants me to run duct through the house so she can vacuum the hardwood floors with it. Hey whatever it takes to get it in my shop.
@@BruceAUlrichI haven’t heard of it either other than dust and chips off the shop floor. My family has all by hijacker’s my ct26 for floor vacuuming but hey like I said if it gets me a supercell the worst that could happen is they don’t like. I won’t be sending it back!
would love to own one but i have heard the motors could be an issue as there are 4 of them and if one goes you have to replace all 4 of them ? Not sure how long the motors last as they are very high speed
That looks like a great machine. I have the Harbor Freight collector that I converted to a two stage, but would love to upgrade. With the DC being 5 HP, does that mean 220 is required?
Hello.. im just wondering Does oneida supercell collect dust from air. I do many grinding car panels and my shop is full of dust, but i can't connect to tools. Im looking something that will collect dust from air in my shop.. What you think ?
No, I would not recommend the SuperCell for this. It is meant to collect at the tools. I would buy or build some type of an air cleaner/air scrubber. Jay Bates has a video about how to make one here on TH-cam.
No per the manual. How many tools can I collect from simultaneously? The Supercell and Supercell Turbo can accommodate up to three 1" to 2.5" tools at the same time or one tool with a 4" or 5" diameter port.
@@Matt-zf8ty Depends on the tool, really. My table saw has a built in overarm dust hose. It's ported into the 4" dust outlet on the saw. So it's a single hookup to the dust collector.
Not so sure about this thing. It seems the motors have only a 1000hr. MTBF so depending on your usage you are looking at anywhere between $290 and $370 (Std vs. turbo) to replace the set of motors when one fails. I think something with a more conventional motor is a better choice.
I never heard of them either. Just sent me down a path researching them. The Cmavac unit with triple motors most expensive model is only 162 l/s (343cfm). With many 4” tools requiring a minimum of 350cfm I wouldn’t understand buying that model. It also is not as integrated into one unit as nicely as you said. Do you see any specs on CFM for smaller hoses like 1.5” or 2”. I couldn’t find anything on Camvac’s page easily. Oneida has a lot of data on their site and after owning one for 4 years I have been more than impressed. I’ll stick with Oneida built in the US. They have great customer service and support. I bought mine before the Turbo came out. Hope one day I can update the non-turbo to a turbo. That would be nice to further increase the machines capabilities.
@@lukemontgomery40 I just posted a mini novel about me going down the same path as you on the Record Power. I have been eyeballing the supercell and never ever heard of the UK based Camvac. See my commnet at the very top to the poster named ClintonCaraway-CNC. I currently have a harbor freight with onedia supoerdust deputy and 4" duct work.
That doesn’t take up much space at all. Appears to work much better than my WEN. when it comes time for me to upgrade I’ll be considering this supercell. Thanks for the info.
Thus is nuts. This "dust collector" is really a 3-motor shop vac. So naturally it works well when you have a shop vac application, like a sander with a small hose. But it is not a replacement for a high volume dust collector. Most woodworking shops need both, a dust collector and a shop vac.
@BruceAUlrich There is a wide range of flow requirements in a wood shop. This will work well with the low to medium requirements. Planers are one of the easiest machines to collect from. If this "dust collector" meets the requirements for your use, it has a few advantages over 2 or 3 shop vacs in parallel, like the filter cleaning and cyclone.
I ended up after researching option and traditional systems landing on this and I have had no issue collecting chips, dust and fine dust on any of my machines. I have a fine micron, dust, particle meter to measure air quality in my shop that runs continuously when I’m in there: planer, jointer, table saw, routers, drum sander, etc. no issue keeping air quality as clean as outside air. (I did a comparison to bench mark out door air as my ideal clean condition for my shop) Now if you have a large industrial shop with multiple machines going at a time then a bigger air system would be needed and Oneida wouldn’t spec this one for you. There are other units that they sell that make more sense for those shop’s needs. This is plenty for running a one person one machine at a time wood shop with dust ports from 5” diameter and smaller. This is not a one solution for everyone. But for majority of small shops this is plenty and then some.
Many dust collectors of this size are in that price range. I was hoping to show that you would not need to also but dust extractors, etc. I understand, different people have different needs.
After 39 seconds... This is simply a commercial. Also, That planer youre using that the Oneida "collected at 100'" has a strong blower on it, significantly boosting that 100' run. In other words a totally meaningless experiment.
I know. Many descent dust collectors though are now over the $2000k that have some form of HEPA or fine dust collection. Many hobbyist will justify $3000 or more for a table saw but won’t justify buying a tool to keep the fine dust out of their lungs that hooks up to all the dust producing tools in the shop. If you have a well used hobbies wood shop you easily spent $3000 already and probably way more. Clamps alone can be $50 a pop for those bessey parallel clamps. 10 pair will be $500. It adds up quick. I started with a shop vac, a respirator and a few machines. and in time saved to buy this and larger power tools as needed. It has been worth it and a major upgrade. Space is a constraint so I get more available square footage with a 2’x2’ dust collector that draws >430cfm at each machine. (Actual measurements with anemometer). I could have bought a cheaper bag filter or canister filter DC that collected chips and some fine dust but the cost and still dealing with fine dust didn’t seem like a good long term investment. Ended up getting a fine dust particle meter and tested before and after as I upgraded. Between this unit and an 1000cfm air filtration system in the 13x26 foot shop my air stays extremely clean. I found it well worth it.
Bruce I mean this in the best way possible. Your shop looks like a prison, and you don't deserve to work in a prison. I would love if you fixed up your walls a bit. I'm not saying you need a massive miter saw station or anything. Just some old projects on the walls, or somthing, a logo, or even fresh paint. Either way its just my opinion I'm not gonna stop watching your videos if you never do anything to them.
Hey Richard. It's kind of funny that you mention this, because I do feel it sometimes. I do think our shops need to look pleasing to us, because it should be a place we "want" to be. As far as the paint, it just didn't work out, more like I didn't think about it until I had all of my stuff in there. I don't like the color in the shop...and I really don't like the drywall patches all over the place. However, it is just not practical at the time for me to take everything out and repaint at this time. I hope to be selling this house within the year. And when I get it empty, I might paint it to help it sell, but I just don't know if I see it happening before then. I do have a couple of old projects on the walls...I just don't show them in videos much. They are clamp racks, drill stations, etc. I do have a big logo sign that I need to put up in the shop. I also made this cool display for my great grandpa's old mallet made out of a piece of a wagon wheel (not sure if you saw that video). I need to dig it out of a close and hang that up somewhere.
@@BruceAUlrich Yeah I have seen the mallet video its one of my favorite of yours. I remember you talking about it on the podcast too. Yeah I need to refreash my shop too but I can only do so much cause I'm renting but we should be closing on our first house soon. Good luck with your next house.
You will never go wrong by choosing an Oneida dust collector. Mine is almost 30 years old and is as good as the day I purchased it from Oneida. Good video.
I bought a used delta single stage system several years ago and I still haven't installed it! I need to just do it, but it's a lot more work than just using a shop vac. Unlike all you incredible woodworkers, I just don't do enough woodworking to justify the setup. This was an informative video, and I'm excited you've got something that will work for you
I hear you…you can’t justify the time to do it. That’s why my website hasn’t been updated. Ha ha
Thanks for sharing.this definitely helps as a new woodworker I’m looking for a dust collector for my shop I’m setting up and the more I watch about the super cell I think it’s the one I need to save up my money for.
I don't think you would go wrong with it.
Thanks for the help
If you want performance on par or actually a little better than the Supercell due to increased filter surface area then a hybrid system with a Record Power CamVac/Oneida Super Dust Deputy and a canister filter might be a good option. The CamVac has 3- 1kw 220v motors and only cost about $800. Everything else added still comes in at less than ½ what the Supercell cost.
Interesting
Have you actually done a comparison of the Record Power vs the Oneida Supercell? There are also two Supercells, one being a Turbo model. YOu should also let folks know when you post these kinds of messages that this Record Power product is out of the UK so not sure about local sellers. I can say out of all the years of doing woodworking and working with DC systems, never ever heard once about Record Power. I have since found a few vidoes for the Camvac based on your comment about the company however most of the videos are from the same youtuber (ethanswers from Stockroom Supply based out of Canada whom is a company that sellls the camvac.)who works for . One site I just found for rhe Camvac shows $1200 for 90l or 24gallons with no accessories added. If you want the 200L (55gallon) barrel you are looking at $1,835. If you get the larger unit there is no wheel kit accessory. The wheel accessory to wheel the 90L unit unit around is $99, NanoMax CV Cartridge FIlters for Camvac Dust Extractors (3 motor) is a $329 cost. No filters to buy/replace on the oneida. ANother item is iVAC Pro Dust Collector Remote Switch With Contactor for Camvac Dust Extractors for a whopping $340. The same accessories except the wheel kit are available for the larger model If you get all the additional accessories you are looking at another almost $800 ontop of the $1835. The oneida has the built in remote capability and other features not found in the Camvac. Pricing looks about the same to me with a much better built unit with no mess at all to deal with as well as more horse power. The camvac comes wiht just a 6.5 foot hose. 1 k motor converts to about 1hp on the US side of metrics. So 3 motors at 1k is about 3.5hp whereas the oneida is 5hp. The video I watched also shows what a mess it is to cleanup and empty and clean out or replace filters. It has a cloth filter as well. One of the things I saw in the video was that the 3 bags wrapped over the motors and hanging off the lid connected to the lid are long and when the lid is placed on the dust barrel, the motors with the bags over them take sup about 35 to 40% of the space in the barrel. So when you put the lid back on those bages over take up a huge amount of space in the dust bin where the dust is collected.
I did a bunch of digging and cannot find any comparisons of the Camvac with any Oneida system. Oneida does make many other DC systems as well. However, the Supercell is a different technology compared to other high volume dust systems. ANother thing I noticed in any videos of the camvac is that not a single thing is mentioned about hooking up the camvac to an existing system of duct work. Maybe you can do some additional research and commenting to backup your statement. I read your comment and dug into this product and not seeing your statement to be true. Matter of fact, when you have more filter surface area that additional filtering can actually drastically affect the air flow therefor reducing the power of the suction.
One other note about the 3 stage filter system they call it on the camvac. They only call it that because there are three motors and each has a brown paper bag wrapped around the motor. Then those motor are hanging down into the bin that the lid rests on and inside of that bin is a cloth filter bag. Calling it 3 stage is a bit of a stretch because there is no "cyclone" affect at all. Most dust collection system or single stage systems that people convert tow two stage include a cyclone. The dust would get caught in an unfiltered cyclone and drop most of the dust and chips into a dust bin. Meanwhile the air flows into a filter then air continues on to blow the air back out of the system. There is generally a separate pleated filter after passing the cyclone that trpas the fine dust and that two has a plastic bag usually or another small buckt below it to catch additional fine dust. With the cam vac all the chips, dust and fine dust are sucked into a single barrel and with the 90l holding only 24 gallons and 4 motors wrapped with filters and the bag filter all in one barrel will drastically reduce the amouint of dust that you can collect before having to empty the barrel, pull the bag tilder out of the barrel and shake the hell out of it which will through dust everywhere and then follow up with an air blower then also blow out the three separate bags for each motor. A system like Oneida and others have build their systems to reduce that mess and provide for a cleaner environment. Now the Camvac does seem to be a very powerful shopvac with better filtering but also very messy. If I want to get more room for my dust with a camvac I have to ugrade to the 200L model which is a almost $700 upgrade from thee 90L unit. I am also shcoked how Record Power only provides a 6.5 foot host no matter what model you buy.
Good choice. I have looked at everything out there and I am going with the Oneida Supercell Tubro for my 14'x32' shop.
That’s a beefy one!
@@BruceAUlrich I am just about ready to order and realized that the Turbo is 5 dbs louder and also requires a 30A 220v circuit. According to Oneida it looks like the regular Supercell should meet my needs quite well.
Can you tell me a bit about your experience with the noise level of the regular unit 80 dbs? Thanks
@@RossWilliamsDC I wouldn't say 80dbs is very loud. Some dishwashers are rated at that to put it into perspective. ;)
Huge Oneida fan, I own the Supercell with 30 gal drum. Can’t recommend it more. Cleaning the shop with a 30’ hose is awesome. That said, using it on a random orbit sander (or domino, etc) is absurd. You don’t need 5HP, plus your shop will turn into a furnace LOL. Get a Festool CT or Midi or if you hate Festool look to 3M. Those are the right tools for that job.
I showed it briefly, but I have the large Festool extractor for sanding. It seems to be a great machine.
Awesome looking machine indeed, Bruce! Congrats!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
It can do it all!
I like the reversing feature Bruce. I'll have to consider that machine if I decide to replace mine.
The ease of cleaning a dust collector matters.
That looks like a sweet dust collector! I save money by using every horizontal surface to collect all my sawdust.
lol I really want to get a dust collector, but I don’t trust the janky electrical setup in my shop to run more than one machine at once.
Thanks for sharing Bruce!
Yeah, electrical can be demanding. I had to run a bunch more circuits in this shop when we moved in. Luckily, I had room in the box to add more.
Great video definitely a big help been looking at dust collection systems and this Oneida one has become the front runner was looking at that in the Laguna but the more I watch videos on it. The Oneida seems to be a better system so thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching! Hope it helps your decision to at least give you more information.
Ive had the oneida on my wishlist until i sold my powermatic. I'll be buying the turbo version this month. Now I'm wondering if i even need my festool ct26 in the shop 😮
You have answered every question I have had. Thanks for the review! So many elaborate but never talk about the varying sizes and review coming from basic dust collector that almost anything can beat. My wife wants me to run duct through the house so she can vacuum the hardwood floors with it. Hey whatever it takes to get it in my shop.
Glad you found it useful! I’ve never heard of people vacuuming the floors with it
@@BruceAUlrichI haven’t heard of it either other than dust and chips off the shop floor. My family has all by hijacker’s my ct26 for floor vacuuming but hey like I said if it gets me a supercell the worst that could happen is they don’t like. I won’t be sending it back!
would love to own one but i have heard the motors could be an issue as there are 4 of them and if one goes you have to replace all 4 of them ? Not sure how long the motors last as they are very high speed
It has 3 motors. I'm not sure why you wouldn't trust it. I know people who have had these machines using them in their shops for years.
Looks like a great system!
I’ve been enjoying testing it out!
That looks like a great machine. I have the Harbor Freight collector that I converted to a two stage, but would love to upgrade. With the DC being 5 HP, does that mean 220 is required?
Yes, on a 20Amp circuit.
Hello.. im just wondering
Does oneida supercell collect dust from air. I do many grinding car panels and my shop is full of dust, but i can't connect to tools. Im looking something that will collect dust from air in my shop..
What you think ?
No, I would not recommend the SuperCell for this. It is meant to collect at the tools. I would buy or build some type of an air cleaner/air scrubber. Jay Bates has a video about how to make one here on TH-cam.
You think it can take a 4” table saw port and and overarm blade guard port simultaneously?
Yeah, for sure. I just don’t have the over arm thing for my tablesaw. I would feel confident running multiple tools with this. It’s 5HP
No per the manual.
How many tools can I collect from simultaneously?
The Supercell and Supercell Turbo can accommodate up to three 1" to 2.5" tools at the same time or one tool with a 4" or 5"
diameter port.
@@Matt-zf8ty Depends on the tool, really. My table saw has a built in overarm dust hose. It's ported into the 4" dust outlet on the saw. So it's a single hookup to the dust collector.
Not so sure about this thing. It seems the motors have only a 1000hr. MTBF so depending on your usage you are looking at anywhere between $290 and $370 (Std vs. turbo) to replace the set of motors when one fails. I think something with a more conventional motor is a better choice.
Great video! Keep it up!
Thanks so much, Will!
Nice video but just one correction. There an alternative, Record Power offers similar setup. Oneida is better integrated though into one package
Interesting. Never heard of them
Yes, their Camvac units have been around for a while now and are fantastic dust collectors
I never heard of them either. Just sent me down a path researching them. The Cmavac unit with triple motors most expensive model is only 162 l/s (343cfm). With many 4” tools requiring a minimum of 350cfm I wouldn’t understand buying that model. It also is not as integrated into one unit as nicely as you said.
Do you see any specs on CFM for smaller hoses like 1.5” or 2”. I couldn’t find anything on Camvac’s page easily.
Oneida has a lot of data on their site and after owning one for 4 years I have been more than impressed. I’ll stick with Oneida built in the US. They have great customer service and support. I bought mine before the Turbo came out. Hope one day I can update the non-turbo to a turbo. That would be nice to further increase the machines capabilities.
@@lukemontgomery40 I just posted a mini novel about me going down the same path as you on the Record Power. I have been eyeballing the supercell and never ever heard of the UK based Camvac. See my commnet at the very top to the poster named ClintonCaraway-CNC. I currently have a harbor freight with onedia supoerdust deputy and 4" duct work.
Is it out of the foyer now!?
Maybe… ;)
That doesn’t take up much space at all. Appears to work much better than my WEN. when it comes time for me to upgrade I’ll be considering this supercell. Thanks for the info.
Good deal. Glad to give some info on it.
Thus is nuts. This "dust collector" is really a 3-motor shop vac. So naturally it works well when you have a shop vac application, like a sander with a small hose. But it is not a replacement for a high volume dust collector. Most woodworking shops need both, a dust collector and a shop vac.
It can collect just fine from major tools, like my 20” planer that has a 4” port, so I don’t understand why it won’t work?
@BruceAUlrich There is a wide range of flow requirements in a wood shop. This will work well with the low to medium requirements. Planers are one of the easiest machines to collect from. If this "dust collector" meets the requirements for your use, it has a few advantages over 2 or 3 shop vacs in parallel, like the filter cleaning and cyclone.
I ended up after researching option and traditional systems landing on this and I have had no issue collecting chips, dust and fine dust on any of my machines. I have a fine micron, dust, particle meter to measure air quality in my shop that runs continuously when I’m in there: planer, jointer, table saw, routers, drum sander, etc. no issue keeping air quality as clean as outside air. (I did a comparison to bench mark out door air as my ideal clean condition for my shop)
Now if you have a large industrial shop with multiple machines going at a time then a bigger air system would be needed and Oneida wouldn’t spec this one for you. There are other units that they sell that make more sense for those shop’s needs.
This is plenty for running a one person one machine at a time wood shop with dust ports from 5” diameter and smaller.
This is not a one solution for everyone. But for majority of small shops this is plenty and then some.
2x2 in the 20" planer..... really?
Why not? It’s meant for planing anything.
The on switch is ridiculous
Huh?
@@BruceAUlrich I mean. The location and style of the standard Oneida off/on switch looks silly mounted to the canister.
@Andy-iw9su Ok. I don’t think it looks all that different than many other tools.
I like the concept of the Supercell but it's really hard to justify over $3,000 for a dust collector alone
Many dust collectors of this size are in that price range. I was hoping to show that you would not need to also but dust extractors, etc. I understand, different people have different needs.
You get what you pay for and more with Oneida. It is an absolute beast and IMHO a DC is the most important tool in the shop.
It’s more important than I knew early in in my woodworking.
After 39 seconds... This is simply a commercial. Also, That planer youre using that the Oneida "collected at 100'" has a strong blower on it, significantly boosting that 100' run.
In other words a totally meaningless experiment.
Awful steep price for a hobbyist.
Not really, but I would say this is more for a strong hobbyist or someone doing it more often, especially if they're making money from woodworking.
I know. Many descent dust collectors though are now over the $2000k that have some form of HEPA or fine dust collection.
Many hobbyist will justify $3000 or more for a table saw but won’t justify buying a tool to keep the fine dust out of their lungs that hooks up to all the dust producing tools in the shop.
If you have a well used hobbies wood shop you easily spent $3000 already and probably way more. Clamps alone can be $50 a pop for those bessey parallel clamps. 10 pair will be $500. It adds up quick.
I started with a shop vac, a respirator and a few machines. and in time saved to buy this and larger power tools as needed. It has been worth it and a major upgrade. Space is a constraint so I get more available square footage with a 2’x2’ dust collector that draws >430cfm at each machine. (Actual measurements with anemometer).
I could have bought a cheaper bag filter or canister filter DC that collected chips and some fine dust but the cost and still dealing with fine dust didn’t seem like a good long term investment.
Ended up getting a fine dust particle meter and tested before and after as I upgraded. Between this unit and an 1000cfm air filtration system in the 13x26 foot shop my air stays extremely clean. I found it well worth it.
@@lukemontgomery40 Well said
Bruce I mean this in the best way possible. Your shop looks like a prison, and you don't deserve to work in a prison. I would love if you fixed up your walls a bit. I'm not saying you need a massive miter saw station or anything. Just some old projects on the walls, or somthing, a logo, or even fresh paint. Either way its just my opinion I'm not gonna stop watching your videos if you never do anything to them.
Hey Richard. It's kind of funny that you mention this, because I do feel it sometimes. I do think our shops need to look pleasing to us, because it should be a place we "want" to be. As far as the paint, it just didn't work out, more like I didn't think about it until I had all of my stuff in there. I don't like the color in the shop...and I really don't like the drywall patches all over the place. However, it is just not practical at the time for me to take everything out and repaint at this time. I hope to be selling this house within the year. And when I get it empty, I might paint it to help it sell, but I just don't know if I see it happening before then. I do have a couple of old projects on the walls...I just don't show them in videos much. They are clamp racks, drill stations, etc. I do have a big logo sign that I need to put up in the shop. I also made this cool display for my great grandpa's old mallet made out of a piece of a wagon wheel (not sure if you saw that video). I need to dig it out of a close and hang that up somewhere.
@@BruceAUlrich Yeah I have seen the mallet video its one of my favorite of yours. I remember you talking about it on the podcast too. Yeah I need to refreash my shop too but I can only do so much cause I'm renting but we should be closing on our first house soon. Good luck with your next house.
Well that really sucks!!! 😉
Totally! Ha ha
You are an accident waiting to happen on the table saw!