This was such an amazing conversation! A perfect conclusion to an important series. Thank you so much to the whole team for all the work planning and sharing these conversations- following Dr. Wachter on twitter and watching all the covid grand rounds was literally a life saver for me during the pandemic- especially given that our federal leadership was so bizarre on it's face- in contrast to the oddities of the president's briefings, your work gave me the feeling that I had a front row seat to the highest level of understanding as it developed, mostly put in terms plain enough for even an elementary school teacher like me to follow- I will be forever grateful- thank you
Well... If they wear those MAGA Hats, the Blood won't be as visible when their heads explode from watching this (to whom it applies). I'll be paying attention to South Korea 1st going into the next Pandemic.. along with the UC System and Vincent Racaniello/Columbia University. The next "killer virus" will probably originate in South America thanks to wholesale deforestation of the Amazon. Nice goin' Jair!!! Now.. Why South Korea? S.KOR pays the USA $800,000,000 yearly to maintain a presence of 25,000 Military personnel (oh.. the USA and S.KOR "talk"). S.Kor has one of top 3 or 4 Medical Communities as a Nation. 2015: S.Kor put down a MERS-COV outbreak caused by a Man traveling in the Middle East with fewer than 50 Korean deaths and the Virus never left their shores. To date: S.Kor has 2,012 COV19 Deaths.. So.. If South Korea were the same size as the USA (or at scale) they would have only suffered 12,770 Deaths. Forget about China.. I can't be convinced that South Korea didn't try to warn the Orange "Know it All" that this was a serious problem. Mr. Slavitt outlined the problems with going public against Trump. Greg Popovich for President/ So much more qualified to deal with Eastern Bloc espionage than Donald Trump is at stealing/lying/being a rat of a human being.
The people who are not vaccinated now do not want it. You cannot force people to get the vaccination. I was vaccinated four months ago and it was a personal choice. If people don’t want the vaccine, fine but if you do get COVID it’s on you Let’s now investigate the true origins of Covid to make sure this never happens again
Thank you, thank you, thank you to UCSF, Dr. Wachter, expert panelists and awesome production team for sharing with the public. Way more than "2 thumbs and an opinion" with humor and intelligence this series was/is the go to resource for unpacking the pandemic. Gonna miss George's COVID weather report and Dr. Wachter's incisive what-we're-all-thinking devil advocacy. What a wonderful way to bench a series milestone with the insider debrief from Andy Slavitt. With gratitude, kudos!
who are people who "look like they may not be vaccinated"? what kind of comment is that? and what do those people look like?? poor? homeless? really?! - very insensitive comment
My issue with George is that he in the healthcare field. He advises about health yet, he is so overweight that he is mouth breathing. He should try to lose weight. He should be an example for his patients.
@@RayStraiter Hmmm, I just cannot understand why they won’t trust liberals who are dripping in sanctimony. Why can’t we all just stop judging each other and rally around the science… surely it is better to discuss medical issues in a scientific way and not in a political way.
@@RayStraiter Interesting. Keep that in mind if you sit near me. Mind the suit and don’t ask me about my Rolex Submariner because I’m not vaccinated. 😘
It is great to learn about Andy Slavitt's background and inspiring contributions to moving our very, very dysfunctional healthcare system to serve Americans better. Thank you so much, Mr. Slavitt! Godspeed to you and to others trying to make our system more rational. I pray you can bring a greater preventive approach to healthcare. So many health issues like stroke and heart attacks are preventable, as Dr. Ornstein at UCSF has demonstrated!
Good information, I appreciate the comprehensive update. Great having Andy Slavitt on as well, but you lost me at 41:00 as the discussion digressed once again into: "what to do with the uneducated population that remain unvaccinated?" That whole discussion is loathsome to me and lacks empathy, something this panel seems to excel at. Many educated people have chosen not be vaccinated yet and they have very good reasons for their decision. Do not broadly generalize all of the unvaccinated as uneducated tin foil hat people, time will tell on this mRNA science, we shall see...
Agree with you. Against my better judgement and at the urging of family and friends, I got vaccinated with the Moderna vaccine. I had already spent 4 months in South America, but their incidence did not spike until I left. If I weren’t going to return there, I would not have gotten the vaccine. I am not convinced that it is the reason for the decrease in cases in the US.
@@catblue2857 thanks for the reply. I want these vaccines to be safe and sincerely hope that I am wrong. There is a growing pool of scientists and academics that are concerned about the pervasive groupthink and nearly obsessive attachment to these mRNA vaccines. We simply don’t have enough data on this new mRNA science so I have decided to wait until they are approved and licensed. Bret Weinstein, an evolutionary biologist had the man that invented the mRNA methodology on his podcast. He has serious concerns, that was my wake up call. Bret Weinstein is all over TH-cam, these are not uneducated people, these are scientists and PhDs on his podcast. It’s a scary time, I hope that they are wrong, I really do, for all of us. Nature has a way of sorting these things out, best to you.
If someone has met an a true antivaxxer, they will tell you that these people aren't stupid. They can school a medical doctor quite easily. If you ask them how it is they became antivax most will tell you someone in their family was vaccine injured. There's a reason our biased media will never interview or debate a real antivaxxer.
Israel C19 is on the rise due to Delta strain and quarantine measures are pending. However, C19 numbers in Delhi and a few Indian states where cases dropped by 97% due to ivermectin still remain at the same level, though health authorities removed Ivm from home kits. Apparently, people are still using it regardless. It could change if their health authorities threaten people and/or make IVM unavailable to ‘please’ WHO but it will always be a strikingly convincing proof that Ivm prophylaxis and early treatment is the only hope to bring our lives back to normal.
@@zoripodvrsnik9889 Actually you are very wrong. Look up DarkHorse on TH-cam. There is so much info out there. Also, one stipulation of emergency vaccine is there can be NO Other treatments. This is why success on Ivrm and HQ were suppressed.
@Jodi Barrick, well. Actually. No. I will, unlike you, now provide you actual scientific peer reviewed analysis. Not one, many. Please, read it and stop saying things that are not just wrong but harmful. jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777389/ www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589537020304648#sec0010 www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214750021000445#sec0045 www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.05.21249310v1 My point being, studies are still being conducted by scientific community. You cannot just claim that it works because some failed scientist said so. You know ... you can't just decide what works. Without knowing how any of it works ... Best regards. Stay Safe.
You seem to have sloughed the point that we navigated in a fog between Scylla and Charybdis... We had both a novel dangerous medical and novel dangerous economic crisis, both without ready responses in times of high uncertainty and danger. Not acknowledging both does not fully report the constraints and dangers we faced. To develop nonpartisan solutions for next time, we might at least correctly state the problem. Even today the medical experts do not acknowledge the 1929-like economic crisis the country faced in March 2020, even as we faced a 1918- like pandemic. We needed to manage both. This discussion today still does not even acknowledge that duo-dilemna. In WW2, Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin chose Hitler first, but the US fought a Two Ocean War.
The part (45:15) where he describes Trump quashing dissenting voices is a really important one here. There's just no reasonable defense for it, and it's a massive injustice upon us all.
If it's true. On another side there 's incredible crushing of all decending opinions by "your side" similar to any totalitarian regime in history. Total lack of transparency is never a sign of honesty or good intentions.
this probable delta variant saying hey Uk your vaccine doesn't do much and soon USA ( I hope not ) the USA thinking that we got this under control because the vaccines will see virus needs to be eradicated worldwide wide especially when all the international flyes continue is common sense
Thank you for this report. Can we discuss the myocarditis cases? Let's presume that the 236 figure in the right column is incorrect and put it back down to 226 cases that meet the CDC definition. 180 people made a full recovery. 15 remain hospitalized. 180 + 15 = 195 subtract that from the 226 and that leaves 31 remaining cases unaccounted for. What happened to them? They didn't recover but they're not in the hospital. Are there deaths? If so, how many? Are any permanently disabled? How many cases? What is the current outcome and then prognosis for these individuals? What are the data? Please, also, can you state what meets the CDC definition of a true case of myocarditis? If the other cases that were reported as myocarditis don't meet that threshold, are those cases now considered "yet to be determined" adverse reactions? That's quite a few that are getting removed. Thank you, in advance. It's important that we understand these definitions and processes.
As per the latest information provided by CDC, 300 cases reported so far out of more than 20 million adolescents and young adults have been vaccinated in the U.S.. It is around or less than 0.0015% what is rare but worth investigating the causes. The CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices group meeting has been rescheduled due to the Juneteenth holiday for this week to discuss. Whatever we're aware of is aligned with CDC's report as well that most cases have been mild so far. “The vast majority have fully resolved with rest and supportive care.” .To answer your question, no death has been reported yet from this. Please also note we don't know yet the preexisting conditions of these patients like whether they had obesity, diabetes and or heart or any health related issues. Hope this answer your questions.
@@medscigeek7253 Thank you for your reply. Though I am going to express frustration, I do appreciate the response. I'm aware of most of what you've communicated here. Can you tell me your position? Are you from the UCSF School of Medicine? Respectfully, the language you've chosen is, though surely unintentional, seemingly insensitive when you say, "but worth investigating". These aren't just numbers, they're young people who deserve to have responsible adults looking after their well being. It's not worth investigating, it absolutely warrants, demands, requires, investigation. In addition, cases are under reported (and I know this even from personal knowledge of physician non-reporting) but even taking these numbers alone at face value, there is still an obvious imbalance and a definite safety signal in this nascent, evolving database. I hope the CDC execs and staff enjoyed their potato salad and beer on their holiday while the vaccine rollout continued, undeterred and unfettered by pesky bioethical concerns, across the country. Meanwhile, there are other countries, as well as the WHO, not approving or not recommending vaccinations for children and young adults, and not just based on supply considerations, but also based on lack of evidence to do so. To those adversely affected, it doesn't matter if it's "rare". The pharmaceutical companies, government, employers, etc. are immune to any liability. Who pays these medical and hospital bills, time off work to address, etc.? Let's keep it real. There is more financial coverage for young people who accrue medical bills from contracting the actual SARS-CoV-2 infection itself than from that caused by the vaccine and we don't know the long-term effects endured. Myocarditis complications can last a lifetime. It is negligent that the CDC so nonchalantly rescheduled their "emergency" meeting. Doctors, nurses, patients...they all show up on holidays. The CDC needs to get to work and be the public facing voice of reason and accountability here. In the meantime they should have made a statement to hold off until they had the meeting. You want to handle vaccine hesitancy? Again, with all due respect, tone-deaf messaging and ridiculously poor optics are not the way to do so.
Thx to you and your great team! You have provided an invaluable service. Thank you for the calm, informative, science driven and rationale discussions.
Is all vital information on treatments, working drug combinations shared in the health community/hospitals all around the world freely? If not are we are just profiting from this crisis unnecessarily... if so who is? Its criminal. Midazolam and morphine usage charts in US and UK are they investigated when used in care homes? if so where? if not then we have a problem?
Excellent, thanks so much. It’s interesting, college education status is such a good indicator of a person’s lifelong health. In my county, which has one of the nation’s highest percentages of college graduates, we also have one of the highest percentages of COVID vaccination and have essentially reached herd immunity.
I would be careful about making statements regarding the way people who have been vaccinated might look… especially when hanging out in “wheezy” movie theaters. Public trust plays an important role in public health and our leaders should consider how cavalierly they express themselves when making such assumptions regarding their own health behaviors.
When preexisting condition coverage is mandated, insurance rates do go up. Someone has to pay and it won't be health insurance companies. There is no free lunch. The people that held continuous insurance coverage or the taxpayers will pay for those that didn't have coverage when diagnosed. You can argue that the benefit is greater than the harm, but to argue that no one is harmed, is just silly.
It is rational to attribute the benefits to the successor organization alone, rather than acknowledge the strengths & weaknesses of the predecessor that set the stage? It seems that the significance of the delays and successes transcend those who would claim credit. What is the sustainable, de minimus use of resources we need to do now to reduce the damage as possible next time?
@jessman This isn’t about liberals vs conservatives. This is about what happened. Some people can’t see it even if it’s staring them in the face. Instead believing people like Tucker Carlson - people who have a platform, two thumbs and an opinion.
The protection against the Delta Variant with Astrazeneca after First Dose was a few weeks after dose not 12 weeks in which is could be more protective . The clotting issue is making people fearful of the adenovirus though rare . A D Dimer ought be offered if patients feel unwell 60 hours after the dose and any time from then on .
Why is health care so expensive in the US? Crony capitalism of which the ACA is the perfect representative. It has made health care far more expensive thanks to big government and big corporations working together to gouge the middle class. But you do you.
If a steep surge spirals out of control in a dense populated major country, incoming flights should be banned immediately, without our scientists study the data first. Later they can advice to either reinstall or maintain the banned flights. Pandemics of this proportion call for pro active action. How not to do it, is what happened with India and the UK where the approach was: well, we can't ban flights before we understand the data. This approach resulted in: Let's make Delta the dominant variant here, so we can have a close look at it.
I'm attending an event in Brevard country tomorrow evening, comprised of concerned taxpayers that feel they are being lied to, by government and health officials. The film "Seeing 2020: The censored science" will be shown with discussion and Q&A afterword. You can watch the trailer on youtube. Also, if you want to get a "look behind the curtain"....check out The Amazing Polly on Bitchute. She's excellent at connecting the dots between people and money.
interesting discusion.Can you explain why I got a severe allergic reaction after pheizer vaccination? It was so scary I got swollen my tough and my lips and neck and I got generalized urticaria. I was tested for PEg before I took a vaccination,I am allergic and I have lupus
Hi, great video as usual. Please, make another one concerning the troubling ADE or Antibody-Dependent Enhancement and current coronavirus vaccines. It is so scary if happens.
I can't find any evidence of this at all, and the Covid vaccines were all specifically designed to avoid it. Out of the millions vaccinated is there any authenticated report on even one case of ADE reaction?
@8Truth Seeking Useful link but rude remark. I've looked at the site. 4,800 reports - that's reports, not cases, as VAERS makes it clear there is often more than one report per case. Cases are reports of serious adverse health events that occur around the time of vaccination and VAER makes it clear that most events are generally not due to vaccine but they do assess each report. I am thinking a maximum of a few hundred serious outcomes out of all those millions of vaccines. How many lives have been saved by the vaccines? I expect you have checked that out.
Please explain why insisting people with natural immunity must be vaccinated?! Specially when not everyone without natural immunity has been vaccinated!
29:14 Andy Slavitt is a Graduate of the same business school as Donald Trump. Slavitt borrowed the Grave Digger Monster Truck, put an extra 1,000 horsepower shot of NITRIOUS OXIDE on the intake manifold and FLOORED IT on Donald Trump!!! I LOVE IT!!! Donald Trump is TERRIBLE AT BUSINESS!!! I'm wrong? OK... The CEO of YUM! is also a fellow alum of the Wharton Business School. YUM! (NYSE) had an initial public offering of $5.44/share in 1997, today it's worth $117.25/share. Go have a look see at how LITTLE Stock this Financial Genius actually owns. How many other Financial Windfalls in the Market has "Mr. Know it All" missed out on while wasting his intellectual resources attempting to screw people out of money? Want to see a Real Estate Genius that will run circles around Trump at his own game? Check for Ben Mallah... out!
45:00 Anyone that did not know Trump was fully capable of sleeping like a Baby while Serfs, Peons and Peasants like Us DIED before he was elected... Please, do Us a SOLID and stop voting. By "Us" I don't mean Black People, I mean people that can't afford to passively be in the circles Trump runs in or desires to run in. "I made enough money that they finally pulled back the curtain and introduced me to the "Real White People" --Dave Chappelle
In March I had an allergic reaction immediately after the first dose of Pfizer. I was given infusion of steroid to halt the reaction. Did that steroid void my immune response and nullify the dose? Can I assume I have the high immunity after one dose that seems evident in the UK data? from the Delta variant?
It could be you are allergic to the non vaccine related filler.. PEG used in the vaccine is thought to induce allergic reaction in some ppl... check with your doc for the issue you raised. You could consider 2nd jab using different vaccine but let the doc knows what happened in the first one
@@joeharry32817 Thanks, I'm aware of all this. Seeing an allergist soon. My question was addressed to the doctors on this panel re the steroids I was given. My PCP doesn't have any idea if the steroids may have voided the efficacy of the first dose.
@@crowheart2 Thanks. Talking to local docs. Hoping to get some information from the panel re steroids interacting with the first dose. My reaction wasn't full on anaphylaxis so I am hoping to get a second dose under medical supervision. Just wondering if I have any immunity after all the steroids I was given at the hospital
@@crowheart2 I definitely need answers :) unfortunately even very good MDs don't have answers, which is why I want these research type docs to address my questions. I'm not the only one in this situation. The ER doc said cases of allergic reactions were coming in weekly. No one has any idea how to advise other than guessing. I hope at some point soon, there will be more data and real world answers for those of us with immediate reactions...I'm not allergic to PEG, so something else is up.
Great information! But with all due respect, because is an awesome job!. How can be transmitted this message to people who for some reason or another do not want to be vaccinated?
This discussion was informed, and could have gone so many ways. What was the purpose of the " blame the other side tone" of the inquiry? I expected two of the most consistent, most informed and positive voices during this crisis, to objectively cover how this occured and the larger questions of how do we improve rather than wasting time complaining about those who emphasize a different set of priorities. Though it is natural to be tired and frustrated, leaders provide paths to solutions. Some parts of this were like listening to Flemish chew on Walloons. Sorry to belly ache. I am so tired of the unproductive, knee jerk, finger pointing rather than dispassionate objective fact finding and analysis. Your efforts are amazing and you do UC proud. I look forward to the solutions.
Nah..for misinformation you should have purchased Dr. Fauci's book. Oops never mind. As soon as his emails were unmasked that showed he's a lying, evil sack of shyt. They pulled the book right away 👍
Might I recommend you use BTS for marketing? I believe you messed up with the whole "my doctor" thing and there's your correlation as to why young ppl aren't getting vaxed. It's very presumptuous to assume the young population has doctors. I haven't seen a primary in 7 years. What young adult can afford that?Lol
I have a cousin that has it had ObamaCare insurance. Only family member I am aware of that applied for this insurance. Her employer had offered retirement health insurance. But once Obama implemented Obamacare that retirement package was ditched by the employer and she was instructed to go get your own. Her and her husband worked at the same place, unfortunately. She told me that the ObamaCare was a huge expense and waste of money. It cost her and her husband hundreds a month premiums. They had huge deductibles and copays. She said the only way they would ever be able to use ObamaCare was if either one of them had a major illness. And at that point they would have to pay thousands out of their own pocket. The only thing I am aware of with ObamaCare was the penalty for people on their federal taxes if they chose NOT to take an asinine insurance offered by the Obama administration. That was a huge joke. And you are lying about President Trump trying to take away pre-existing conditions. You said it yourself, it didn’t hurt anyone. As a Demonic state you are lying.
Really?? This wasn't about information but roasting conservatives. This stuff only fuels the division. This is the liberals version of Trump. Totally lost me when you claim gun control will prevent future pandemics. How??
@@jasonvoss1984 Toward the end of the video they certainly do talk about guns. I'm not sure how guns have anything to do with Covid. That's political not a health issue.
Actually, the author specifically said that the handling of the pandemic would have been just as good under a republican or democratic administration. He clearly said either. He did say that Trump's wish to 'banish' the pandemic, as if it did not exist/wasn't a big deal (600,000 dead later, at this point) - that his ego in this regard DID show as a 'deadly sin'. Anywho, it was not about trashing conservatives, but more about how the wealthier/middle class and upper could sit comfortably ordering groceries online, while those who are/were dying are/were those at the gas station/groceries/warehouses/meat packers . . . these are the people we must thank for putting their lives on the line - so much suffering. I am sorry if your take away was Rep/Dem, when my take away was corporate$$ vs poor/undereducated/minorities (generally speaking).
First time I saw your podcast on youtube and found it very informative. However, the Andy person looked like he had been selected from a group of homeless men who roam the streets of San Francisco. If he wishes to refrain from shaving and dress in a T-shirt in his house, fine; but to subject the viewers to someone who displays such a lack of consideration for them is an insult. I know nothing about him; he may be another Einstein, but I could not watch enough of his presentation to discover that. I know Californians think they are so cool by flouting all standards of appropriate behavior, but he was disgusting to look at. If he must appear, then put a nice picture of him on the screen and let him talk.
This was such an amazing conversation! A perfect conclusion to an important series. Thank you so much to the whole team for all the work planning and sharing these conversations- following Dr. Wachter on twitter and watching all the covid grand rounds was literally a life saver for me during the pandemic- especially given that our federal leadership was so bizarre on it's face- in contrast to the oddities of the president's briefings, your work gave me the feeling that I had a front row seat to the highest level of understanding as it developed, mostly put in terms plain enough for even an elementary school teacher like me to follow- I will be forever grateful- thank you
Love the dara and evidence driven analysis.
@@karensnelson Yes, science should be studied on data & evidence based analysis.
Covid - Dr Mike Yeadon & Del Bigtree
thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/
Thanks SOOOO much for this. This should be viewed by EVERY American.
It's also important that people take the COVID vaccine what will help things get back to normal.
Covid - Dr Mike Yeadon & Del Bigtree
thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/
Well... If they wear those MAGA Hats, the Blood won't be as visible when their heads explode from watching this (to whom it applies). I'll be paying attention to South Korea 1st going into the next Pandemic.. along with the UC System and Vincent Racaniello/Columbia University. The next "killer virus" will probably originate in South America thanks to wholesale deforestation of the Amazon. Nice goin' Jair!!!
Now.. Why South Korea? S.KOR pays the USA $800,000,000 yearly to maintain a presence of 25,000 Military personnel (oh.. the USA and S.KOR "talk"). S.Kor has one of top 3 or 4 Medical Communities as a Nation. 2015: S.Kor put down a MERS-COV outbreak caused by a Man traveling in the Middle East with fewer than 50 Korean deaths and the Virus never left their shores. To date: S.Kor has 2,012 COV19 Deaths.. So.. If South Korea were the same size as the USA (or at scale) they would have only suffered 12,770 Deaths.
Forget about China.. I can't be convinced that South Korea didn't try to warn the Orange "Know it All" that this was a serious problem. Mr. Slavitt outlined the problems with going public against Trump. Greg Popovich for President/ So much more qualified to deal with Eastern Bloc espionage than Donald Trump is at stealing/lying/being a rat of a human being.
The people who are not vaccinated now do not want it. You cannot force people to get the vaccination. I was vaccinated four months ago and it was a personal choice. If people don’t want the vaccine, fine but if you do get COVID it’s on you Let’s now investigate the true origins of Covid to make sure this never happens again
Not everyone enjoys lies and political propaganda. I'll pass.
Thank you, thank you, thank you to UCSF, Dr. Wachter, expert panelists and awesome production team for sharing with the public. Way more than "2 thumbs and an opinion" with humor and intelligence this series was/is the go to resource for unpacking the pandemic. Gonna miss George's COVID weather report and Dr. Wachter's incisive what-we're-all-thinking devil advocacy. What a wonderful way to bench a series milestone with the insider debrief from Andy Slavitt. With gratitude, kudos!
who are people who "look like they may not be vaccinated"? what kind of comment is that? and what do those people look like?? poor? homeless? really?! - very insensitive comment
Tasteless
My issue with George is that he in the healthcare field. He advises about health yet, he is so overweight that he is mouth breathing. He should try to lose weight. He should be an example for his patients.
What are the key visual indications of as you describe “people who look like they might not be vaccinated” ?
MAGA hats covering pin heads. All-Lives Matter shirts in size XXXXL.
@@RayStraiter Hmmm, I just cannot understand why they won’t trust liberals who are dripping in sanctimony. Why can’t we all just stop judging each other and rally around the science… surely it is better to discuss medical issues in a scientific way and not in a political way.
@@RayStraiter Interesting. Keep that in mind if you sit near me. Mind the suit and don’t ask me about my Rolex Submariner because I’m not vaccinated. 😘
It is great to learn about Andy Slavitt's background and inspiring contributions to moving our very, very dysfunctional healthcare system to serve Americans better. Thank you so much, Mr. Slavitt! Godspeed to you and to others trying to make our system more rational. I pray you can bring a greater preventive approach to healthcare. So many health issues like stroke and heart attacks are preventable, as Dr. Ornstein at UCSF has demonstrated!
"Scott Atlas is a Frankenstein Monster." - I want that T-Shirt.
Nahh it should read "Fauci is a Frankenstein lying, mass murdering Monster and should go to jail"
The most valuable lesson from the pandemic is: a common enemy will not unite the people, it will divide them.
Unfortunately, you are right. I've been disheartened seeing how truly egoistic and short sighted most people are.
Not the case in China and much of the East, where people are more community-minded.
A good leader would have done a better job identifying the enemy.
Covid - Dr Mike Yeadon & Del Bigtree
thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/
@Liberty AboveAllElse The right has no solutions besides ignoring every problem we face.
Excellent job production team! TEAM Zoom!
Good information, I appreciate the comprehensive update. Great having Andy Slavitt on as well, but you lost me at 41:00 as the discussion digressed once again into: "what to do with the uneducated population that remain unvaccinated?" That whole discussion is loathsome to me and lacks empathy, something this panel seems to excel at. Many educated people have chosen not be vaccinated yet and they have very good reasons for their decision. Do not broadly generalize all of the unvaccinated as uneducated tin foil hat people, time will tell on this mRNA science, we shall see...
Agree with you. Against my better judgement and at the urging of family and friends, I got vaccinated with the Moderna vaccine. I had already spent 4 months in South America, but their incidence did not spike until I left. If I weren’t going to return there, I would not have gotten the vaccine. I am not convinced that it is the reason for the decrease in cases in the US.
@@catblue2857 thanks for the reply. I want these vaccines to be safe and sincerely hope that I am wrong. There is a growing pool of scientists and academics that are concerned about the pervasive groupthink and nearly obsessive attachment to these mRNA vaccines. We simply don’t have enough data on this new mRNA science so I have decided to wait until they are approved and licensed. Bret Weinstein, an evolutionary biologist had the man that invented the mRNA methodology on his podcast. He has serious concerns, that was my wake up call. Bret Weinstein is all over TH-cam, these are not uneducated people, these are scientists and PhDs on his podcast. It’s a scary time, I hope that they are wrong, I really do, for all of us. Nature has a way of sorting these things out, best to you.
@@catblue2857 th-cam.com/video/Tb_7E12VDE4/w-d-xo.html
If someone has met an a true antivaxxer, they will tell you that these people aren't stupid. They can school a medical doctor quite easily. If you ask them how it is they became antivax most will tell you someone in their family was vaccine injured. There's a reason our biased media will never interview or debate a real antivaxxer.
When u get sick don’t clog up the overburdened hospital systems.
Israel C19 is on the rise due to Delta strain and quarantine measures are pending. However, C19 numbers in Delhi and a few Indian states where cases dropped by 97% due to ivermectin still remain at the same level, though health authorities removed Ivm from home kits. Apparently, people are still using it regardless. It could change if their health authorities threaten people and/or make IVM unavailable to ‘please’ WHO but it will always be a strikingly convincing proof that Ivm prophylaxis and early treatment is the only hope to bring our lives back to normal.
Thank you, I really appreciate these presentations, they are very well organised and informative.
- *URGENT WARNING* - Dr. Byram Bridle - Immunologist - Vaccinologist, University of Guelph, Ontario - Canada - th-cam.com/video/xVFrEorkTxM/w-d-xo.html
Covid - Dr Mike Yeadon & Del Bigtree
thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/
Why aren't you talking about the use of Ivermectin to fight Covid?
because it doesn't do shit.
@@zoripodvrsnik9889 Actually you are very wrong. Look up DarkHorse on TH-cam. There is so much info out there. Also, one stipulation of emergency vaccine is there can be NO Other treatments. This is why success on Ivrm and HQ were suppressed.
@Jodi Barrick, well. Actually. No.
I will, unlike you, now provide you actual scientific peer reviewed analysis.
Not one, many.
Please, read it and stop saying things that are not just wrong but harmful.
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777389/
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589537020304648#sec0010
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214750021000445#sec0045
www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.05.21249310v1
My point being, studies are still being conducted by scientific community.
You cannot just claim that it works because some failed scientist said so.
You know ... you can't just decide what works. Without knowing how any of it works ...
Best regards.
Stay Safe.
Covid - Dr Mike Yeadon & Del Bigtree
thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/
NOT EVERYONE can TAKE -TOLERATE ALL DRUGS ( Even OTC.s) ! There is NO 1 CURE !
1. Tell the truth. 2. Don't try to control other people and decide what they would do.
Great discussion. Confirmed everything I had been thinking about. Thank you.
You seem to have sloughed the point that we navigated in a fog between Scylla and Charybdis...
We had both a novel dangerous medical and novel dangerous economic crisis, both without ready responses in times of high uncertainty and danger. Not acknowledging both does not fully report the constraints and dangers we faced. To develop nonpartisan solutions for next time, we might at least correctly state the problem.
Even today the medical experts do not acknowledge the 1929-like economic crisis the country faced in March 2020, even as we faced a 1918- like pandemic. We needed to manage both. This discussion today still does not even acknowledge that duo-dilemna.
In WW2, Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin chose Hitler first, but the US fought a Two Ocean War.
I ❤️ you guys! Thanks to UCSF Grand Rounds and the vaccine, I feel that I have and will continue to make decisions that are best for my kids and I.
Correct scientific data and evidence should be available to all what helps people to take the decisions.
It’s been a month! Looking forward to another update.
Congrats to the production team!!! Job well done to you all. Hero’s all!
Covid - Dr Mike Yeadon & Del Bigtree
thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/
The part (45:15) where he describes Trump quashing dissenting voices is a really important one here. There's just no reasonable defense for it, and it's a massive injustice upon us all.
If it's true. On another side there 's incredible crushing of all decending opinions by "your side" similar to any totalitarian regime in history. Total lack of transparency is never a sign of honesty or good intentions.
not 90 percent but 96 percent of the new cases are from the Delta variant in the UK
Covid - Dr Mike Yeadon & Del Bigtree
thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/
this probable delta variant saying hey Uk your vaccine doesn't do much and soon USA ( I hope not ) the USA thinking that we got this under control because the vaccines will see virus needs to be eradicated worldwide wide especially when all the international flyes continue is common sense
Thank you for this report. Can we discuss the myocarditis cases? Let's presume that the 236 figure in the right column is incorrect and put it back down to 226 cases that meet the CDC definition. 180 people made a full recovery. 15 remain hospitalized. 180 + 15 = 195 subtract that from the 226 and that leaves 31 remaining cases unaccounted for. What happened to them? They didn't recover but they're not in the hospital. Are there deaths? If so, how many? Are any permanently disabled? How many cases? What is the current outcome and then prognosis for these individuals? What are the data? Please, also, can you state what meets the CDC definition of a true case of myocarditis? If the other cases that were reported as myocarditis don't meet that threshold, are those cases now considered "yet to be determined" adverse reactions? That's quite a few that are getting removed. Thank you, in advance. It's important that we understand these definitions and processes.
As per the latest information provided by CDC, 300 cases reported so far out of more than 20 million adolescents and young adults have been vaccinated in the U.S.. It is around or less than 0.0015% what is rare but worth investigating the causes. The CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices group meeting has been rescheduled due to the Juneteenth holiday for this week to discuss. Whatever we're aware of is aligned with CDC's report as well that most cases have been mild so far. “The vast majority have fully resolved with rest and supportive care.” .To answer your question, no death has been reported yet from this. Please also note we don't know yet the preexisting conditions of these patients like whether they had obesity, diabetes and or heart or any health related issues. Hope this answer your questions.
@@medscigeek7253 Thank you for your reply. Though I am going to express frustration, I do appreciate the response. I'm aware of most of what you've communicated here. Can you tell me your position? Are you from the UCSF School of Medicine?
Respectfully, the language you've chosen is, though surely unintentional, seemingly insensitive when you say, "but worth investigating". These aren't just numbers, they're young people who deserve to have responsible adults looking after their well being. It's not worth investigating, it absolutely warrants, demands, requires, investigation. In addition, cases are under reported (and I know this even from personal knowledge of physician non-reporting) but even taking these numbers alone at face value, there is still an obvious imbalance and a definite safety signal in this nascent, evolving database. I hope the CDC execs and staff enjoyed their potato salad and beer on their holiday while the vaccine rollout continued, undeterred and unfettered by pesky bioethical concerns, across the country. Meanwhile, there are other countries, as well as the WHO, not approving or not recommending vaccinations for children and young adults, and not just based on supply considerations, but also based on lack of evidence to do so.
To those adversely affected, it doesn't matter if it's "rare". The pharmaceutical companies, government, employers, etc. are immune to any liability. Who pays these medical and hospital bills, time off work to address, etc.? Let's keep it real. There is more financial coverage for young people who accrue medical bills from contracting the actual SARS-CoV-2 infection itself than from that caused by the vaccine and we don't know the long-term effects endured. Myocarditis complications can last a lifetime.
It is negligent that the CDC so nonchalantly rescheduled their "emergency" meeting. Doctors, nurses, patients...they all show up on holidays. The CDC needs to get to work and be the public facing voice of reason and accountability here. In the meantime they should have made a statement to hold off until they had the meeting. You want to handle vaccine hesitancy? Again, with all due respect, tone-deaf messaging and ridiculously poor optics are not the way to do so.
Thx to you and your great team! You have provided an invaluable service. Thank you for the calm, informative, science driven and rationale discussions.
Is all vital information on treatments, working drug combinations shared in the health community/hospitals all around the world freely? If not are we are just profiting from this crisis unnecessarily... if so who is? Its criminal. Midazolam and morphine usage charts in US and UK are they investigated when used in care homes? if so where? if not then we have a problem?
So no update in over a month. What's up UCSF?
@@angeldaisy5248 I did. A month ago. If they mentioned a break, I guess I didn't remember. Why don't you just tell me what was said?
Excellent, thanks so much. It’s interesting, college education status is such a good indicator of a person’s lifelong health. In my county, which has one of the nation’s highest percentages of college graduates, we also have one of the highest percentages of COVID vaccination and have essentially reached herd immunity.
Covid - Dr Mike Yeadon & Del Bigtree
thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/
Interesting. Which country are you in? Israel?
What do people that haven’t got vaccinated look like ?
I would be careful about making statements regarding the way people who have been vaccinated might look… especially when hanging out in “wheezy” movie theaters. Public trust plays an important role in public health and our leaders should consider how cavalierly they express themselves when making such assumptions regarding their own health behaviors.
When preexisting condition coverage is mandated, insurance rates do go up.
Someone has to pay and it won't be health insurance companies. There is no free lunch.
The people that held continuous insurance coverage or the taxpayers will pay for those that didn't have coverage when diagnosed. You can argue that the benefit is greater than the harm, but to argue that no one is harmed, is just silly.
Certainly not for the person with the pre existing condition(s) that were denied coverage. This probably should have been covered by ADA.
This is not about the DELTA VARIANT this is about POLITICS.
It is rational to attribute the benefits to the successor organization alone, rather than acknowledge the strengths & weaknesses of the predecessor that set the stage? It seems that the significance of the delays and successes transcend those who would claim credit. What is the sustainable, de minimus use of resources we need to do now to reduce the damage as possible next time?
Great conversation! 💙💙💙
Good grief......Is this virus ever going away???????? Everybody is quite sick of this virus.
@jessman This isn’t about liberals vs conservatives. This is about what happened. Some people can’t see it even if it’s staring them in the face. Instead believing people like Tucker Carlson - people who have a platform, two thumbs and an opinion.
The protection against the Delta Variant with Astrazeneca after First Dose was a few weeks after dose not 12 weeks in which is could be more protective .
The clotting issue is making people fearful of the adenovirus though rare .
A D Dimer ought be offered if patients feel unwell 60 hours after the dose and any time from then on .
Covid - Dr Mike Yeadon & Del Bigtree
thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/
Why is health care so expensive in the US? Crony capitalism of which the ACA is the perfect representative. It has made health care far more expensive thanks to big government and big corporations working together to gouge the middle class. But you do you.
Yes! Yes! Yes.
If a steep surge spirals out of control in a dense populated major country, incoming flights should be banned immediately, without our scientists study the data first. Later they can advice to either reinstall or maintain the banned flights. Pandemics of this proportion call for pro active action. How not to do it, is what happened with India and the UK where the approach was: well, we can't ban flights before we understand the data. This approach resulted in: Let's make Delta the dominant variant here, so we can have a close look at it.
peter dashak and gain of function, the man should be in jail.
I got my 1st shot of Pfizer about 10 days ago and I haven't felt well for the last 5 days !!
Gee.. You weren't in the Placebo Group... Congrats..
To all the dumb people who have taken the jab.... You can carry on eating people like Hancocks shit. Maybe with a bit of spice on it now
Hope you feel better
I'm attending an event in Brevard country tomorrow evening, comprised of concerned taxpayers that feel they are being lied to, by government and health officials. The film "Seeing 2020: The censored science" will be shown with discussion and Q&A afterword. You can watch the trailer on youtube. Also, if you want to get a "look behind the curtain"....check out The Amazing Polly on Bitchute. She's excellent at connecting the dots between people and money.
interesting discusion.Can you explain why I got a severe allergic reaction after pheizer vaccination? It was so scary I got swollen my tough and my lips and neck and I got generalized urticaria. I was tested for PEg before I took a vaccination,I am allergic and I have lupus
Covid - Dr Mike Yeadon & Del Bigtree
thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/
Here to say it now that I can: Lab Leak Hypothesis, and Because I feel Edgy Hygiene Hypothesis.
Hi, great video as usual. Please, make another one concerning the troubling ADE or Antibody-Dependent Enhancement and current coronavirus vaccines. It is so scary if happens.
I can't find any evidence of this at all, and the Covid vaccines were all specifically designed to avoid it. Out of the millions vaccinated is there any authenticated report on even one case of ADE reaction?
Covid - Dr Mike Yeadon & Del Bigtree
thehighwire.com/videos/episode-219-in-harms-way/
@8Truth Seeking Useful link but rude remark. I've looked at the site. 4,800 reports - that's reports, not cases, as VAERS makes it clear there is often more than one report per case. Cases are reports of serious adverse health events that occur around the time of vaccination and VAER makes it clear that most events are generally not due to vaccine but they do assess each report. I am thinking a maximum of a few hundred serious outcomes out of all those millions of vaccines. How many lives have been saved by the vaccines? I expect you have checked that out.
Please explain why insisting people with natural immunity must be vaccinated?! Specially when not everyone without natural immunity has been vaccinated!
Some studies have shown the mRNA vaccines result in the production of ten times the antigens than natural immunity.
Frankenstein monster. Bwahahahahahaahahaha - perfect.
Yeah, perfectly described that fraudulent mass murderer Fauci.
29:14 Andy Slavitt is a Graduate of the same business school as Donald Trump. Slavitt borrowed the Grave Digger Monster Truck, put an extra 1,000 horsepower shot of NITRIOUS OXIDE on the intake manifold and FLOORED IT on Donald Trump!!! I LOVE IT!!!
Donald Trump is TERRIBLE AT BUSINESS!!! I'm wrong? OK... The CEO of YUM! is also a fellow alum of the Wharton Business School. YUM! (NYSE) had an initial public offering of $5.44/share in 1997, today it's worth $117.25/share. Go have a look see at how LITTLE Stock this Financial Genius actually owns. How many other Financial Windfalls in the Market has "Mr. Know it All" missed out on while wasting his intellectual resources attempting to screw people out of money? Want to see a Real Estate Genius that will run circles around Trump at his own game? Check for Ben Mallah... out!
45:00 Anyone that did not know Trump was fully capable of sleeping like a Baby while Serfs, Peons and Peasants like Us DIED before he was elected... Please, do Us a SOLID and stop voting. By "Us" I don't mean Black People, I mean people that can't afford to passively be in the circles Trump runs in or desires to run in.
"I made enough money that they finally pulled back the curtain and introduced me to the "Real White People" --Dave Chappelle
In March I had an allergic reaction immediately after the first dose of Pfizer. I was given infusion of steroid to halt the reaction. Did that steroid void my immune response and nullify the dose? Can I assume I have the high immunity after one dose that seems evident in the UK data? from the Delta variant?
It could be you are allergic to the non vaccine related filler.. PEG used in the vaccine is thought to induce allergic reaction in some ppl... check with your doc for the issue you raised. You could consider 2nd jab using different vaccine but let the doc knows what happened in the first one
@@joeharry32817 Thanks, I'm aware of all this. Seeing an allergist soon. My question was addressed to the doctors on this panel re the steroids I was given. My PCP doesn't have any idea if the steroids may have voided the efficacy of the first dose.
@@crowheart2 Thanks. Talking to local docs. Hoping to get some information from the panel re steroids interacting with the first dose. My reaction wasn't full on anaphylaxis so I am hoping to get a second dose under medical supervision. Just wondering if I have any immunity after all the steroids I was given at the hospital
@@crowheart2 I definitely need answers :) unfortunately even very good MDs don't have answers, which is why I want these research type docs to address my questions. I'm not the only one in this situation. The ER doc said cases of allergic reactions were coming in weekly. No one has any idea how to advise other than guessing. I hope at some point soon, there will be more data and real world answers for those of us with immediate reactions...I'm not allergic to PEG, so something else is up.
@@crowheart2 Agree! - I am hoping I can safely get a second dose of Pfizer. thanks for engaging with my concerns!
Of course they don’t mean well. 😐 to quote my physics textbook it’s clear to the casual observer.
Great information! But with all due respect, because is an awesome job!. How can be transmitted this message to people who for some reason or another do not want to be vaccinated?
I watched the video preaching to the choir,ain’t no way in he!!im taking it
Experimental! No liability! Not a vaccine!!
"Variant shamriant"....thats Monica Gandhi Trademark my friend
SHAME shame shame on you for being POLITICAL instead of MEDICAL. First “DO NO HARM”, you have violated your oath.
No 🔬🦠🧪💉 ☠️ For Me 🤷🏽♂️
Florida cases have come way down.......So that isn't true.
Feels like normal. Restorative
This discussion was informed, and could have gone so many ways. What was the purpose of the " blame the other side tone" of the inquiry?
I expected two of the most consistent, most informed and positive voices during this crisis, to objectively cover how this occured and the larger questions of how do we improve rather than wasting time complaining about those who emphasize a different set of priorities. Though it is natural to be tired and frustrated, leaders provide paths to solutions.
Some parts of this were like listening to Flemish chew on Walloons.
Sorry to belly ache. I am so tired of the unproductive, knee jerk, finger pointing rather than dispassionate objective fact finding and analysis.
Your efforts are amazing and you do UC proud. I look forward to the solutions.
I can give you an earful of what is wrong with Obamacare!
I WILL NOT read or buy Scott Atlas' book, because it will be full of misinformation!
Nah..for misinformation you should have purchased Dr. Fauci's book. Oops never mind. As soon as his emails were unmasked that showed he's a lying, evil sack of shyt. They pulled the book right away 👍
OMG….I can see why your brother-in-law is not a fan.
Just starting to watch! I hope they don't use the term "transmissible!"
Don't worry it is not contagious and will not affect your fitness.
@@christopherrobinson7541 Meh
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Might I recommend you use BTS for marketing? I believe you messed up with the whole "my doctor" thing and there's your correlation as to why young ppl aren't getting vaxed. It's very presumptuous to assume the young population has doctors. I haven't seen a primary in 7 years. What young adult can afford that?Lol
I heard Trump say over and over that we will keep pre existing conditions protected. What are you talking about?
Standing is a doctrine to avoid hard decisions. And we didnt really need a decision for sake of the virtue signal.
I have a cousin that has it had ObamaCare insurance. Only family member I am aware of that applied for this insurance. Her employer had offered retirement health insurance. But once Obama implemented Obamacare that retirement package was ditched by the employer and she was instructed to go get your own. Her and her husband worked at the same place, unfortunately. She told me that the ObamaCare was a huge expense and waste of money. It cost her and her husband hundreds a month premiums. They had huge deductibles and copays. She said the only way they would ever be able to use ObamaCare was if either one of them had a major illness. And at that point they would have to pay thousands out of their own pocket. The only thing I am aware of with ObamaCare was the penalty for people on their federal taxes if they chose NOT to take an asinine insurance offered by the Obama administration. That was a huge joke. And you are lying about President Trump trying to take away pre-existing conditions. You said it yourself, it didn’t hurt anyone. As a Demonic state you are lying.
Propaganda posts
Fear monger
UCSF ,dont go to school there
Really?? This wasn't about information but roasting conservatives. This stuff only fuels the division. This is the liberals version of Trump. Totally lost me when you claim gun control will prevent future pandemics. How??
@@jasonvoss1984 Toward the end of the video they certainly do talk about guns. I'm not sure how guns have anything to do with Covid. That's political not a health issue.
Actually, the author specifically said that the handling of the pandemic would have been just as good under a republican or democratic administration. He clearly said either. He did say that Trump's wish to 'banish' the pandemic, as if it did not exist/wasn't a big deal (600,000 dead later, at this point) - that his ego in this regard DID show as a 'deadly sin'.
Anywho, it was not about trashing conservatives, but more about how the wealthier/middle class and upper could sit comfortably ordering groceries online, while those who are/were dying are/were those at the gas station/groceries/warehouses/meat packers . . . these are the people we must thank for putting their lives on the line - so much suffering.
I am sorry if your take away was Rep/Dem, when my take away was corporate$$ vs poor/undereducated/minorities (generally speaking).
@@jessman8597 @I’m buying your book! Thank you for writing it! You’re a gem!
First time I saw your podcast on youtube and found it very informative. However, the Andy person looked like he had been selected from a group of homeless men who roam the streets of San Francisco. If he wishes to refrain from shaving and dress in a T-shirt in his house, fine; but to subject the viewers to someone who displays such a lack of consideration for them is an insult. I know nothing about him; he may be another Einstein, but I could not watch enough of his presentation to discover that. I know Californians think they are so cool by flouting all standards of appropriate behavior, but he was disgusting to look at. If he must appear, then put a nice picture of him on the screen and let him talk.
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