Triumph T120, RE-CAP with MOTONE CUSTOMS! New MONZA fuel cap!
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- Full review of, and how to install the MOTONE CUSTOMS Monza style fuel cap, for the new, Triumph modern classic range.
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Monza style fuel cap for Triumph Bonneville.
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Thanks for that, I wasn't completely sure how this Monza cap was fitted. You have taken care of my doubt. Thank you.
Just installed my new Monza cap. That is a beautifully machined part. And so much better without having to find a place to put my loose cap when filling up the tank.
Who'd of thought a fuel cap video would be so interesting! Great stuff. I love the headlight pattern on your T120 👍🏻😎
Hey up Dervman! yes I always think it looks like she is smiling!
I don't even own a Triumph (right now) but this cap is so beautiful that I want to own one anyway.
Really enjoying all your videos Stuart. Great insights and tips to us British bike enthusiasts. Bravo.
Just fitted one to my Triumph Thunderbird Commander. A doddle to fit and looks great.
I just ordered this same cap for my Scrambler after watching your excellent video. It showed me how easy it is to install!
Looks excellent! Just ordered for my T120 in Thailand. Good service and despatched same day as I ordered......
Good choice Roger, they look nice and are very practical too! just read through the comments below as some people seem to have run into difficulties with this install. just bear in mind that the whole cap is designed to turn on the collar if enough force is applied, to prevent the mount from being unscrewed, this is to prevent people from stealing it and is not a fault!
Hi Stuart. Thanks for the extra explanation. Another good reason for this cap in Thailand is that the attendants still fill the bike for you like the good old days back home. The problem is potential damage to the paintwork if I'm not in control :)
Hi Roger yes i see your point and logic there! its easy enough to scratch paint when your being careful so i can imagine petrol attendants would make short work of it. one last thing, there is a large thin O ring in the kit! you dont need it for this install its for fitting to a different bike!
Hi Stuart. Just fitted. Very simple to do. Glad you told me to use the gasket rather than the thin O ring as the instructions say to discard the gasket and use the O ring?! This would leave the assembly loose so good advice. The TEC progressive fork springs next.....
Roger Snell glad you got it on roger bet it looks lovely. Feel free to share a pic of it on my fb page all are welcome!
Thank you Stuart just installed the Polished Motone Monza cap to my 2011 Bonneville SE, very nice. Thank you for your great channel and informative videos. You have a great accent mate :) from an Aussie downumder!
That's your third cap! Here in the States there's probably a support group for that. ;) Great video. Cheers!
You can never have enough fuel caps Steve! I like to have one for every occasion and I'm not sure this will be my last one! Err actually perhaps your right, maybe I do have a bit of a fuel cap problem!
I was hoping someone would make a Monza cap for the T120 like they have for the Thruxton. Thanks Stuart!
Thanks Scott I do believe Motone have a U.S distributor too!
FYI I spoke to the people at motone usa and they say they do have these caps now and will be putting them on their website sometime this week.
jcyoungda thank you sir i shall pin your comment for other US viewers attention!
Very nice Stewart! The cap seems to be what attracts people to the Thruxton! Why not have it on the T120!! Awesome!
Thanks John it does look very nice doesn't it!
..... not to mention, "Nil Desperandum Illegitimae Carborundum", haha. Excellent presentation Sir, as always. Love the embedded motorcycle component/industry history side to your videos, and the eloquent narrative. Splendid, thank you, and Kind Regards.
Semper Equestriatum Ferratus.
LOL thankyou sir glad you enjoy the vids, and thanks for taking the time to watch!
Cheers from the u.s. Great video as always. It is funny though that a big complaint about the previous bonneville models was that they didn't have a lockable fuel cap. Every video seemed to complain about that and I always thought that was weird as I never had a bike with a lockable cap. Apparently triumph listened and added one to the new models and now people are putting on unlockable after market caps. Can't please everybody :)
Yeah bless em Triumph just cant win can they. I suppose it depends how you use the bike and whether you leave it unattended for long periods in risky areas. though to be fair their version of a lockable fuel cap is quite infuriating!
stuart fillingham appears to not be available on the motone USA site. That happens a lot. Trying to buy muc-off over here was pain in the arse.
Morning Stuart, after following the video instructions, the whole cap was turning, i thought i was unscrewing the cap when infact i unscrewed the small stainless steel nut in the lid, which then doped off into the tank. I had tighten the 3 small grub screws. When the cap was on the tank, the filling whole was not centered with the cap, it was just off center !!.
You made it look so easy, and i am sure it is !! i will get it sorted. Love all your bloggs
Graham Evans hi graham the cap does not centre due to the wierd way triumph have arranged the nozzle hole. But dont worry it doesnt affect filling the tank. The collar is designed to still spin although it would require a little force to do so. This is to prevent sticky fingers removing your cap while your away from the bike. Perhaps i should have mentioned that. Sorry for any confusion! Re the nut im presuming you closed the cap when you were turning the assembly?
Hi Stuart, all sorted now, your block and explanation was perfect, i lack a bit of confidence when i get involved in mechanical stuff, but happy to report the cap looks great, thank you. Graham
Hi Graham really glad you got it sorted mate. I try to make things as clear and easy as I can, but its always a battle against the time available with these videos. I should have mentioned it is designed to move so it cant be stolen easily! sorry!
Thanks Stuart, informative as always. I plan to fit one of these to my 900 Thunderbird and note that this particular model is the only one supplied by our local cafe racer shop. Obviously they've done their homework as well and chosen the best. You note that the cap sits quite high and this reminds me that the reason this style of cap went out of usage was because of the number of motorcyclists suffering traumatic castration after a head-on crash and sliding up the tank... I'm not planning to crash my T'Bird!
Thanks Chris, that's certainly an eye watering consequence to consider!
Indeed. My anatomy lecturer was formerly a surgeon in a London hospital and used anecdotes of her experiences there...
Hmm... I can see there is perhaps a gap in the market for a pair of reinforced Kevlar underpants here!
Chris, you are a bright sunny ray of sunshine in an otherwise dark world.
I guess we can take solace that the Triumph cap is a bit off center so it would tear one of our testicles off! LOL
thank you sir! who needs two testicles anyway!
Thanks for the vid. I just broke my T120's original fuel cap (rolled and felt on the ground - in fact that's the small piece that turn and hid the keyhole that's broken) and I think I'll replace it by this one.
Great vid, thank you. You pointed out a problem that I didn't know I had: which cap should I buy ... decisions decisions ... thanks anyway.
Love your blogs, following all your video's, bought the Muc Off cleaning, now just bought the fuel cap, great stuff
Graham
Thank you Graham, thanks for watching, I'm sure your going to love the fuel cap!
Another great video Stuart. Took me a while to download in Cyprus but well worth the wait. Really like the look of this fuel cap - gives another nice perspective to the T120. Thankyou again sir for a high quality video ("Viros Et Honos" as they say in my family motto!)
Your very welcome Paul and thanks for taking the time to watch it whilst on your holiday! its a nice cap, and I'm not sure that the video really brings the quality of it across, I love it!
I would be very interested Stuart if in the autumn you might consider doing a summary assessment of all the extras you've fitted and how you've got on with them for a few months? I want to but a couple for my T120 but not all, and would love to know how you have found living / riding with them on a day to day basis? Just a thought sir. This video does clearly highlight the lovely quality and fit of the cap - thoroughly enjoyable as always.
I realise that it's 2 years since this was posted and I'm sure that it's been pointed out but the thick rubber seal between the 2 main parts should be removed . Enjoyed the video.
Great video Stu. Motone make amazingly crafted products. I did toy with the idea of fitting the brass monza cap to my 2020 Battle Green Bullet 500 but that wouldn't have worked at all. It would be a bit like fitting a gold turret to a Sherman tank! Nah! lol Their spun brass screw in version really compliments the military 500 though. A totally different story with your Classic chrome Bullet though and the Triumph here. The Monza cap works perfectly with these bikes and the brass version also works beautifully with the last of the line Tribute Black Bullet 500's too.
It's all about the 'wow factor' imo. You compliment the look of the machine, without anyone really noticing what you've done 🤠😬
OK, you did it. Just ordered one. Thanks for the review and the tutorial.
Sorry - I prefer the look of the standard inscribed Triumph petrol cap on my Speedmaster - plus its lockable. The monza cap is well made though. Great instructional video Stuart.
Thanks for the video. I bought the same cover for my bike. I will install it in a moment.
Beautiful bike and great vid. Wish I could put one of these caps on my Thrux R. Love the look of the Thrux R cap but not all that impressed with its construction.
yes it is a bit of a compromise, I'm sure someone will bring out something better eventually. thanks for watching!
Very detailed and superbly explained as always... Thx for sharing Stuart.
thank you sir and your welcome.
Thanks Stuart, Always a pleasure to watch your reviews. So nice I just had to get one for my T120, In Brass, Just about to order Cruise Control as well.
Cheers for the reply
Once again great review, with your recommendation I just ordered one.
Hey Danny good move! excellent piece of kit! thanks for watching!
Great review very accurate. Personally I think the Monza cap suits cars more than motorcycles as the cap stand too proud, watch your goolies mate!
who needs goolies!
Ouch, eyes watering at the thought?
By the way Stuart - I see you have hit 2K on the subscribed box. Many congratulations sir!!!
Thank you sir!
Why wouldn't you just buy the Thruxton R, Speed Twin OEM Monza? It has a lower profile and isn't as bulky as this version. Triumph FUEL FILLER CAP, MONZA Part # T2400812
I have been troubled to find the right version of this. I saw this on the new speed twin and I immediately saw how much less bulky it was. Both, the Thruxton and Speed Twin use the same exact model number. All I need to find now is the locking mechanism for it. So I will test my luck with an OEM part.
Erm because they are not proper monza style caps Carlos. They are just styled to resemble one.
Unfortunate update: I ordered one and installed it with no problem. However the first time I went to fuel it all of the pieces came flying out as soon as I popped the top. The spring and all pieces in the top pressure plate part are held on by a nut. Apparently my nut must have wiggled off while riding and I believe it is now at the bottom of my gas tank. I never touched the nut and did no bouncing or rough riding. It was as it came from the factory out of the box. People might want to make sure the nut is tight or maybe put some of their own lock tight before they install it. I now have to drain and remove the tank and hope I can get the little nut out before it does damage to the engine. Just giving people a heads up of my experience.
It is a lock nut not sure how it could come undone by itself! did you tighten the cap in place with the cap closed and the special tool in place by any chance?
stuart fillingham no I installed exactly as you showed. Hand tightened it and then installed it with the tool. I followed your expert instructions. :) it's definitely in the tank as I have drained it and can see it. Coat hanger time.
Just been out and checked mine and its fine, maybe you were just unlucky and someone at the factory forgot to tighten it. have you reported it to motone?
the only other way I can see that it would come loose (its an aircraft locking nut) is if the tool is left in place during fitting and the cap is closed and then turned several times. the tool would then unscrew it!
stuart fillingham who knows. I did tell them. Mine came from the American site and didn't have a large rubber o-ring like yours did either. Perhaps here they don't use a locking nut. When I fish it out I'll look at it.
Actually ive just checked the tool and its too big to engage the nut so it must be down to them not being tightened properly at the factory, really sorry I am a little embarrassed!
Another very interesting and enjoyable video I wonder if it will fit my Triumph America as it has that raised chrome profile around the base of the cap. Regards from down under.
Thanks David. I think its very likely it would fit, best bet is to just email Motone and ask, I'm sure they will know for certain!
I put one on me Speed Twin. I dropped me cap with the key a stickin out and bent the key. Now me key stays in the bike when I filler.
Whoever makes one for an INT/CONTI 650 will go in the Farkle hall of fame.
that's amazing, the original idea was to make refueling faster, my SP1200, has a monza, but after you open it, you need to unlock the cap, and than unscrew the cap, defeating the whole original purpose of the monza cap!, hahaha
Are you thinking of racing the bike, Stuart?!
Informative video. It really does look very smart.
No sir! just a styling piece, intend doing a lot more to her in the coming months!
I just bought a 2022 Speed Twin. the fake fuel cap sucks. I'll have to order one of these.
Hi Stuart nothing to do with this video but how did you get on about your front breaks ( squeaking) as mine have just started to do this ? Love the videos keep up the good work .
They have now stopped as far as I can tell Joe. I just adopted a very hard braking regime for a few hundred miles and it seems to have cured the problem.
Stuart, any chance you may do a fork gator install video on the RE 650? I think they look great, but... pulling to fork tubes off looks a bit tricky. Regards
What pannier bags are on that bike? Great video.
Great stuff 👍🏻
Thanks cotti!
Question
What tools did you use to remove brake fluid cover and end caps for handle bars
Great videos
phillips screwdriver for brake reservoir and 5mm allen key for end caps
I've a new Speed Twin with a faux Monza cap. Wonder if I can change it out to the real deal.
Here's the link:
www.motone.co.uk/motorcycle-parts-c26/triumph-bonneville-c25/monza-cap-kit-p1946
Thanks Suan!
Hey Stuart. I've got one of these on the mail from the local Motone distributor and I noticed it brought a thin o-ring that I did not see in your video. Any idea where is it supposed to be fitted? No instruction manual either... Thanks!!!
Hi Jose! the thin o ring is included for fitment to another model just keep it safe, its not needed on the triumph!
Got it!!! That makes sense. Thanks!
No Problem at all Jose glad to assist. just remember when you tighten it all up the cap will still turn if you put enough pressure on it, this is to make it harder for people to remove and steal its not a fault!
Interesting. I will keep an eye on that when I install it. Thanks again. The videos are very informative and encouraging.
Hi Stuart - Will this fuel cap fit on my 1969 Triumph Bonneville?
I have no idea sir, im sure Motone will have the answer to that if you give them a ring!
I Stuart please help..
I have just bought the brass Monza cap and when I downloaded the fitting instructions it says..
"The top cap assembly (MNX002) comes bundled with this flat rubber gaskit on the inside. When combined with the components in NMX003 this particular gaskit is unnecessary and so can be removed from the kit".
Stuart please please can you advise, I don't want to mess this up.. if I remove this gaskit and tighten down the screw in part NMX003 and it starts leaking miles away from home it may be difficult to refit this gaskit..
Ride Safe my friend
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Stu
Living in Oregon over in the US it seems I cannot order some brass Motone bits through their US site... They don’t offer them. So naturally I went to the UK site, found what I wanted but UK Motone doesn’t have a means to ship to me in the States !
Any suggestions?
There is no official US site. Motone only operate from the UK.
Hello Stuart,
We have watched several of your videos on You Tube, it's very interesting. We would like to buy a monza cap kit pour our 2016 Bonneville T120 on the Motone website (we have seen the Suan's link, reference on the website is NMX003+NMX002). Could you confirm us that the thread pitch will actually fit our tank ? Or could you send us the exact reference of the cap kit. Thanks in advance. Patrick.
Hi Patrick thanks for watching, yes I can confirm that that is the correct link and reference. the thread and pitch is the same for the current Bonneville models as it is for the older Hinckley Bonnevilles. so there will be no problem with fitting. If you require extra reassurance may I suggest you email Sam at motone through the contact us facility on their website, and just ask him to confirm it will fit your model. Just put "you tube review enquiry" as the subject and I'm sure he will respond quickly!
Thank you for the quick answer. Waiting for new videos!
No problem Patrick, ive let Sam know you will be emailing him!
Nice mate
Stuart, when I installed mine, the neck of the new cap was not lined up perfectly with the gas tank hole. It was off center a tad. Is this normal and was yours that way also? Thanks!
Hi Nate yes this is normal, its due to the silly way triumph have designed the filler neck, but it all works just fine!
Nice 🙏
Is This fuel cap is available for Royal Enfield Continental GT 650?
No im afraid not!
stuart fillingham ahh thanks for the info bro
Lakota