Pel Admits to Dax she is Actually Female Ferengi

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  • @ReaverLordTonus
    @ReaverLordTonus ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Considering the fact Quark would find out and eventually tolerate his mother being female and good at business I'm surprised he never looked Pel up.

    • @jasonpye4649
      @jasonpye4649 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cuz I guess he found he was never actually attracted to her maybe?

    • @TheNoiseySpectator
      @TheNoiseySpectator ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well, you are implying that Quark grew as a person over the course of the series. 😏

    • @joylynch5204
      @joylynch5204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hmm but he was

  • @underarmbowlingincidentof1981
    @underarmbowlingincidentof1981 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I love that being gay is somehow less of a problem than being a woman in Ferengi culture.

    • @wj11jam78
      @wj11jam78 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      💪💪💪

  • @bornofashes
    @bornofashes ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I love that Dax didn’t assume Pel was straight.

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it’s a little evident that Dax’s hunch on her actually being a woman was stronger than we or she realized. But whatever, that’s just me

    • @bornofashes
      @bornofashes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@teleportedbreadfor3days Oh, like Dax was feigning surprise so Pel didn’t feel bad that her disguise was obvious.

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bornofashes Did I seriously give that impression?

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Trill symbionts are the first Trek-verse alien who refer to themselves as they/them 😉

    • @elliec2943
      @elliec2943 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too!

  • @kaidenshepard8446
    @kaidenshepard8446 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I love how it would be a Dax, to say "you're a woman?" when in their lifetime, they have been different sexes, due to the host.
    Jadzia will always be my favourite Dax for sure

    • @jasonpye4649
      @jasonpye4649 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What little we saw and learned of Tobin was kind of interesting 😉

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Trill symbionts are the first Trek-verse alien who refer to themselves as they/them 😊

    • @jasonpye4649
      @jasonpye4649 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LGranthamsHeir yes I know what you said and you're talking about the ones were joined, but as a race, those who were unjoined would have no reason to potentially use the term for themselves.. But those with a symbiont might only say they and them cuz there's literally two different entities comprising one. Pretty appropriate if you ask me from a certain perspective. I guess that was a bit of a long way to say I agree. LOL

    • @arvurebantra7639
      @arvurebantra7639 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@LGranthamsHeir I don't think that's actually true. There's multiple gender neutral species mentioned in TNG, and I think at one point there was mention of a species with more than 2 genders.
      Also the Trill often refer to themselves as the gender of the host, and use the host's pronouns. The symbionts probably use they/them, but we never really get to see that part.

    • @arvurebantra7639
      @arvurebantra7639 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jasonpye4649 I think there is only one Trill that I've seen using they/them after being joined (From ST:Discovery). All others seem to use the host's pronouns.
      Also don't forget DS9 had an off screen male character that got pregnant at least twice.

  • @roberthayden5103
    @roberthayden5103 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    They should have made Pel a recurring character like Rom.

  • @BlackDiamond2718
    @BlackDiamond2718 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love how well she can connect with people. With all those different hosts it provides experience and perspective. That is why I loved Dax and the Tok'Ra in stargate.

  • @christopherkraft1327
    @christopherkraft1327 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dax didn't seem surprised!!! 🖖

  • @TheNoiseySpectator
    @TheNoiseySpectator ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I saw this episode, and thought it was a shame that they didn't get Suzi Orman to play Pel. 😄

  • @jimhults4916
    @jimhults4916 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    April 5, 2063, This is my new friend Jadzia.

  • @ladyDelilah84
    @ladyDelilah84 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Impressive what they could get away with back then when it was aliens

    • @doomhead2332
      @doomhead2332 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Your pic gives me nightares

    • @DragonFruitXVI
      @DragonFruitXVI 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@doomhead2332 That is actually what they look like my dude.

    • @mikael7963
      @mikael7963 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DragonFruitXVI Nightmares.

    • @wj11jam78
      @wj11jam78 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I feel like in the 90s you'd have plenty of tomboys on TV. Thats essentially what Pel is here. Though, she iswearing a prosthetic to appear male, so I suppose it is a more explicit example of crossdressing. Still, I don't think a woman crossdressing would have been unheard of on TV back then. A man, thats less likely. People have always been more resistant to males crossdressing compared to females. Aside from these days.

    • @ladyDelilah84
      @ladyDelilah84 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DragonFruitXVI not a dude here unless you refer to yourself

  • @sleepinggorilla
    @sleepinggorilla 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A little weird that Pel would blurt out her biggest secret in a public place like that.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great scene.
    Thanks for posting it.

    • @April-dv2pb
      @April-dv2pb  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're welcome. 😁

    • @jimhults4916
      @jimhults4916 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That my new friend Jadzia.

  • @LGranthamsHeir
    @LGranthamsHeir ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This scene and also the scene featuring Jadzia/Kor meeting show how as an entity who live through multiple lifetime of its hosts, Dax symbionts is the first Trek-verse entity who refer to themselves as they/them

  • @jamieolberding7731
    @jamieolberding7731 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    April 5, 2063
    40.2K subscribers I remember this episode! BTW... Paul, could you please upload some scenes from these episodes of "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" I've listed?
    LIST:
    1. "I didn't Know She Was a Female" - Quark Defends Pel from the Grand Nagus - Scene (from "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" Season 2, Episode 07 "Rules of Acquisition")
    2. "I told you never to speak to me again" - Quark's Harsh Reunion With His Cardassian Ex-Girlfriend Natima Lang - Scene (from "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" Season 2, Episode "Profit and Loss")
    3. "I rather like you, Quark" - Garak Helps Cardassian Exiles Escape/Quark Says Farewell to Natima Lang - Full Scene (from "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" Season 2, Episode "Profit and Loss")
    (You may have to break this last one down into three or four parts)
    4. "So much for the Dominion" - The Battle of The Omarian Nebula - FULL entire Space Battle Scene (from "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" Season 3, Episode 21 "The Die is Cast")

    • @April-dv2pb
      @April-dv2pb  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi jamieolberding7731, Good ideas! Your first idea I was planning for next week. Great minds think alike. As for your second idea, I just watched that episode about two weeks ago. I like when Quark info Odo that he has a cloaking device.

    • @jamieolberding7731
      @jamieolberding7731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@April-dv2pb You mean a Klingon cloaking device/invisibility device?

    • @April-dv2pb
      @April-dv2pb  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes.

    • @April-dv2pb
      @April-dv2pb  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamieolberding7731 how was your week?

  • @LGranthamsHeir
    @LGranthamsHeir ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DS9 has Pel long before "The Orville" invents Heveena 😉

  • @2Scribble
    @2Scribble 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love how Jadzia suses out that Pel is attracted to Quark - but misreads their interest as homosexuality rather than them being trans xD
    God this show was progressive for it's time!

    • @Squiglypig
      @Squiglypig 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Pel isn't trans, Pel is in disguise.

    • @2Scribble
      @2Scribble 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @Squiglypig - they're coding themselves as male because they have male urges and male desires atypical for female Ferengi
      Their relationship with Quark ends because of Quarks own cultural intolerance and inability to rectify Pel with who they are vs. how they present
      That's a pretty Trans experience, my dude

    • @Squiglypig
      @Squiglypig 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@2Scribble It's not trans. Just because you're masculine (or hold traditionally masculine interests) doesn't make you trans.
      Also: Wtf does "they're coding themselves as male" mean?
      I've only seen "coding" being used in really racist ways, like how orcs in various fantasy universes are "coded" black, and that was used by people calling LotR and Warhammer racist because of it.

    • @user-zu7fr8qm8r
      @user-zu7fr8qm8r 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@2Scribble Pel is a woman. Ferengi women are normally chained to the kitchen and not allowed to leave the house or wear clothes. She wants to be in business and live as a free being. She is also straight and only disguises herself as a man to stay free. She isn't trans she is basically a first wave feminist in a culture that heavily resembles Islam. Thanks for playing.

    • @formerflash1901
      @formerflash1901 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@2Scribble Pel presents herself as a male because she would not otherwise be able to do what she wants to do due to the social structure within Ferengi culture. She's basically a Ferengi Mulan.

  • @Vaggumon
    @Vaggumon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    But Star Trek has only recently become "woke". lol!

    • @usernameissean
      @usernameissean 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's much better written. It's not even a big deal to dax that Pel would be gay because it's so normal and accepted. The show is not preaching. No one wants a show preaching it's values

    • @fastertrackcreative
      @fastertrackcreative หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would say it's not done the same way now. They are prone to be rather blunt about it and it's quite patronising

  • @Freedom21stCenturi
    @Freedom21stCenturi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jadzia sucked as a character.