I feel like destruction being lower than preservation is a crime I do get your point but looking at the fact that you build your team around a dps Soo idk
For me 1.Harmony(we dont need to ask how broken ruin me & bobin is) 2.Nihility(second to buffing is debuffing and acheron lul) 3.Hunt(the best out of the 3 dps path with ratio boothill feixiao dominating both moc/as) 4.Destruction(the middle of all path work decent in all pf/moc/as) 5.Preservation(prevention is always better than cure) 6.Abundance(doesnt matter how much they heal when it always cap at your max hp) 7.Erudition(the most underwhelming out of the 3 dps path and only usable in pf where herta/himeko already dominate)
I’m very surprised at Hunt being above Destruction, or even Preservation. Everytime a comparable Hunt DPS and Destruction DPS is released around the same time, the only thing you tend to hear is how unfair blast-target is versus single-target (even among diehard Hunt enjoyers). Beyond the current game state, it’s hard to avoid the fact that a Hunt character with the same number of turns as a Destruction character could never outcompete them, in pure game mechanics, due to the number of enemies being attacked with each. Putting Hunt in the context of Feixiao and Nihility in the context of Acheron but not Destruction in the context of Firefly seems strange to me. Break-oriented content is absolutely something every account has to deal with, and Firefly being the premier Breaker makes her an incredibly easy pickup. Her team is the most available in the game, being herself, a free MC unit, a healer that used to be free, and a top two support whose playstyle diversity makes her important for an account anyways. Feixiao’s team does have March (free) and Moze (not free), but her best team is by no means accessible. The three additional limited supports she needs cost the same as if you pulled for E2 Firefly and Ruan Mei. Nihility is certainly above the two, but not because of Acheron. Its original purpose is to ‘challenge’ Harmony with debuffs instead of buffs, with Acheron just giving you a reason to ever prefer the former before the latter. The core utility of debuffs in addition to Acheron establishing it as a path for DPS is what takes it above the others. If the reasoning for Hunt being above Preservation is the viability of sustainless raw damage output trumping the need for defense, then yeah. Firefly would bring Destruction above Preservation as well, since Break teams inherently eliminate the possibility of being attacked by the enemy.
@shrekatemyonions very good points, and pretty convincing argument. However while Firefly is insanely good and a very cheap and easy pickup, Superbreak I feel, at least until Fugue comes out, has a slightly lower ceiling than Acheron and Feixiao, especially in my experience. Not denying how good it is though, just saying Acheron and Feixiao have a higher ceiling, especially from what I've seen. And while the foundation of the hunt unit is highly flawed, the current units do counteract that incredibly well, and you can't just brush off a good character because the foundation of the path is flawed when this good character fixes the flaws. Doing so many follow up attacks and having multiple bursts fixes the flaw of being single target because you can kill multiple elites with the ult and kill smaller targets with the insane amount of follow up attacks. What's more, Feixiao is also an insanely easy character to build because of March and Moze.
I can see why you'd put abundance last but it sort of just *feels* wrong. The reason may be how incredibly versatile and strong the abundance path is in basically all iterations of sim uni, it's just strange that the actual characters dont compare. I really think the next abundance character will be truly insane, Lingsha is already pushing that level but not quite there due to being compared with a 4*
Honestly with the way the set up works it makes sense in terms of RPGs in general; Supports will make or break fights. When it comes to the order of Business it's usually Buffs THEN Debuffs as buffs will seldom whiff but Debuffs might. Then of course Boss killers are second most important.
Harmony > Destruction > Preservation > Nihility > Abundance > Hunt > Erudition for me. Harmony is obviously GOATed. > Destruction has the highest dps on average. > Preservation is simply important and a near necessity. > Nihility has some extremely strong characters but also some weak ones making them less consistently good than Destruction. Their main issue is their reliance on each other. > Abundance is another must but just less so than preservation. One could argue that Abundance is more useful than Preservation for F2P or new players because they won't be 0 round killing anytime soon. > Hunt really only has Feixiao while Topaz is basically a support. FUA is great but their main weakness is lack of AOE. > Erudition has a niche as AOE dps but is lack luster in everything else.
I would rate preservation a little higher, or at least have a little more recognition. Sure, you could beat the game *without* fu xuan and aventurine but I still think they're extremely valuable.
Good point, but there are only 7 spots and I still don't think a preservation character is likely to be better than any of the characters in any paths ranked higher than preservation
I agree with most of your video excepts Hunt’s placement. Through a logistical standpoint on how the end game modes are made, destruction characters are in a much better position for the long run. This is because both MoC and Apocalyptic Shadow often have small enemies that are much easier for Destruction units to deal with since almost every single one has a form of splash damage. The only reason why Hunt is so good right now is because of two characters; Boothill and Feixiao but, that doesn’t change the fact it’s still just as bad if not worse than Erudition. Erudition characters have pf that they will almost always be best at but, Hunt is only as good as the characters and the meta they’re put in.
By the way I’m viewing the paths as just the path they are, I try not to get too blinded by the units in said path. For example, I agree that objectively unless there’s a lot of changes made to enemies, Abundance < Preservation. However, Preservation as of recently at least, is carried solely by Aventurine. Fu Xuan for me at least (I have e1s1 Fu Xuan) has been having a far more difficult time keeping up with the meta and is on par or is worse than abundance units right now. Sustain characters are shifting to accommodate utility too rather than just sustain which is why Aventurine, HuoHuo, Lingsha and even Gallagher are so good right now. The argument that Abundance > Preservation could be made since right now there are more meta abundance units than preservation but it’s still not true.
@SUPERsourbum I see your argument, but right now the single target-ness of Hunt, which is basically the only thing that could hold it back, is HEAVILY nullified because of Feixiao. Having 2 bursts in a row means you can kill 2 elites in a row, and the amount of overall attacks the current strong hunt units do definitely counteracts that too. I get why Hunt would be low, but the units, specifically Feixiao of course, counteract the weaknesses of hunt by doing so many follow up attacks, to either pick at the elite enemy or kill smaller targets without much effort. As for the preservation and abundance thing, then Fu Xuan is still an incredible unit, I have never felt she wasn't good enough, so agree to disagree. And IMO the number of good units in Abundance doesn't counteract the fact that Fu Xuan and Aventurine are so good.
I do personally think that hunt>nihility since nihility lacks use outside of acheron since youd never want a nihility over another character in a team + without feixiao hunt is still super good topaz best fua buffer, ratio free solid dps,even moze and march who can be played in superbreak and lots of other teams
@hxm1sh259 topaz isn't the best FUA buffer, Robin is. Moze and March can be played in superbreak but definitely not as effectively as Rappa or Firefly. Ratio is good for sure, though, and so is boothill. But I still think if not for feixiao Hunt would be in the exact same situation, maybe slightly worse, than Destruction. 2 insane units, and a few other good units. Oh and edit: outside of Acheron nihility is still super strong because of DoT and the debuffing. Buffing is better than Debuffing most of the time, but you can't deny the fact that reducing an enemy's def by 40% is crazy.
for me is: 1. Harmony (they're the one that changes the meta) 2. Nihility (second to harmony and how flexible they are) 3. Destruction (due to the blast dmg and consistent up keep on MOC) 4. Hunt (not really good on PF but high dmg output due to FUA teams) 5. Abundance (healing is more forgiving than having shields, having cleanse and buffs are always good, and more 1st time player friendly) 6. Erudition (Good at PF but somewhat good at MOC mostly carried by Rappa) 7. Preservation (shields and dmg mitigation is good but they mostly ran out (i.e. shields are buffs that runs on a timer and dmg mitigation will run out of HP)
I have to agree with the list as far as the current meta goes, even though in my heart destruction will always be no1. ☺ Harmonies are just way too strong, especially Robin. Not that I dislike it, it's cool to do big numbers. It's just that MoC 12 starts to hurt a little on the non-Robin side. Whatever team she's on slices through enemies like a hot knife through butter. Really hoping that Sunday can also buff traditional hypercarry setups. :')
Imo Ruan mei is hella underrated on the non-Robin side. Remember that Ruan mei is still incredibly strong. But yeah, destruction will always be 1 in my heart.
@@mooseoncaffeine I do use RM on the non-Robin side, and I do like her there, she sometimes helps sustain too. But in terms of clear speed and raw numbers, the difference between the RM and Robin side is very noticeable. Still very much capable of clearing, I just want bigger numbers :)) Long live Destruction & Destruction Only 🥰
Before watching I think the ranking is 7. Erudition 6. The Hunt 5. Abundance 4. Destruction 3. Preservation 2. Nihility 1. Harmony After watching, I was ranking out of total usefulness rather than meta so our lists did turn out differently but I still completely disagree about The Hunt. In the totality of all characters and damage dealers between 5 and 4 stars The Hunt characters are not turn positive. Unless you have Boothill or Feixao you will not be building a team around them and at that you will probably need characters to give them extra turns or a dual dps to give yourself any chance at quickly dispatching enemies. Single enemy damage is just not good enough for most players. Additionally, Abundance is useful because if you don’t have Aventurine the path is kind of useless (Sorry Fu Xuan & Gepard.) Abundance however has useful characters in both 4 & 5 star that can work well on a well considered team. My preference is taking no damage but barrier for entry is lower for Abundance.
You make some decent points, but as I said in the video I'm talking about best case scenarios. We're not talking about the accessibility of these characters, I've already talked about that in many videos before. Rather, when all of these paths' characters are taken into account, which would be the most powerful. Which one are you most safe to invest into? The dev team obviously realised Hunt is weak because of single target so they made it stronger. I believe future Hunt units will be strong as well. Same for Preservation. They're also STARTING to do the same for Abundance but unless the whole meta of Abundance changes, preservation is still Feixiao alone carries hunt, and even though single target only makes it weak, the amount of follow up attacks her and her teammates do and the fact she has 2 bursts does make her very powerful even against 2-3 targets, but against 5 she definitely gets a little weaker. As for Abundance, then same point here. Aventurine does carry it, but Fu Xuan is still very powerful. Have had her since day 1 and without her my account would be in shambles. She's definitely better than any of the abundance units when it comes to survivability, and she still gives around 12% crit rate. Either way, thanks for adding to the discussion!
I have too comment on this, most destruction units has effectively 0 supports in any way, nihility, harmony, abundance, even another destruction, so they just use a unit who can just maximize damage per turn, jingliu and blade have this very badly, both of them are mainly self serving characters, they both use bronya, but neither can properly use sparkle, jingliu can use ruan mei while blade can use robin (if you minmax his damage intake), i do think however that all path will eventually have a character like this, which so far is true, and eventually all units for dps rolls will get a support in some way, so i fully expect and kinda hope this list changes, maybe with a crit abundance character, or a hp based buffing harmony character, maybe itll be sunday, maybe fugue, or maybe even a new set for these buffs, and im a jingliu player with acheron and feixiao, id rather use jingliu and shes getting a new set, but im still worried that blade, jingyuan, and all the other lesser used characters, will they think their mains are forgotten after too long, maybe the new set can also help a lot of other forgotten units and possibly even shine along side others in the harder content. Anyways, of course harmony is number 1, they enable almost every team in the game too go crazy with dps.
Once destruction gets the proper supports it will be just as good as nihility and hunt. It's just a matter of time before they make a destruction character they want to badly sell.
i believe hunt is placed way too high. Firefly is better than Feixiao and her team is cheaper to obtain and her gear is easier to obtain (SPD/BE vs SPD/ATK/CR/CD)
@jujube222 in my experience, superbreak has a slightly lower ceiling than Feixiao and Feixiao's teams are still very easy to get a hold of despite being slightly harder to build, but good points still. Highly agree that Firefly is very good.
Nope, everytime there's a lightning-wind weak enemy Black Swan and Kafka deal with them incredibly easily. Even just wind weakness, since Black Swan's DoT are the stronger of the two, and by a huge margin.
7. hunt yes it's effective and simple but the design really makes it restricted and hard to work around to make new characters. Though the true reason I put it at bottom is because I think it got way too much unfair treatment and got artificially boosted to save the path. I am all in for upgrades and adjustment but the hunt glow up honestly feels too devious and ill intentioned. 6. abundance. pretty much agree with everything said and like... what else to expect from this path? 5. erudition again, mostly agree but want to add that I think it's the least creative path (in comparison). it's just plain cup of joe 4. preservation maybe I would've put it a few numbers down but even though there aren't many preservation units, the ones that are available do fill slots like specialists with each character unique and useful in their own way to varying degrees. honestly kudos to hoyo for making a bland role like shielder so interesting and only releasing such complex characters even though there aren't many. I'd rather have a slow and steady release of good preservation units rather than cry about the lack of. 3. destruction easily has the biggest potential to be the most interesting and unga bunga fun characters with how flexible they can be made. mix and matching different rules and conditions is what allows destruction to have such a versatile and unique roster. also it just has a cool factor to it and has the ability to make any character cooler on release since destruction can be very unique and not just ST like hunt or AoE like erudition. i agree with destruction placement in the video but i really do think this path will get just better and better with time. 2. harmony. now just hear me out. any buffer in gacha games is gonna be OP like cmon. it's really not fun to give them first place all the time just cause they got a by born right to be the best. 1. nihility easily the path that can be tweaked, shaped and molded into anything you want. tonnes of mix and match and has unprecedented flexibility that no other path can achieve. destruction being close second. all the characters that have come and will come offer something different and meaningful and always has a spot in the meta. also a slight bias but I'm a sucker for edgy stuff and nihility is like the edgiest edge to ever edge
Funny how you say Nihility is the easiest to tweak yet also the most stagnant among all the paths so far. Aside from Pela, Welt and Acheron, Nihility became that DOT centric path. There are only two direction for Nihility and if they continue to rely on those two, it might come to the point that it will be ranked 5th if not 6th and only being carried by Acheron.
@@ryuuraga1619 if nihility is stagnant, that's all on hoyo. you can actively create unique characters with less restrictions all on your own. other paths are more restrictive.
I feel like destruction being lower than preservation is a crime
I do get your point but looking at the fact that you build your team around a dps Soo idk
next destruction character revives frfr
destruction only guy not rating destruction number 1 is a crime
Every Hunt DPS: 😐
Acheron and Kafka: 😐
Jade, Herta, and Himeko (all together): 😐
For me
1.Harmony(we dont need to ask how broken ruin me & bobin is)
2.Nihility(second to buffing is debuffing and acheron lul)
3.Hunt(the best out of the 3 dps path with ratio boothill feixiao dominating both moc/as)
4.Destruction(the middle of all path work decent in all pf/moc/as)
5.Preservation(prevention is always better than cure)
6.Abundance(doesnt matter how much they heal when it always cap at your max hp)
7.Erudition(the most underwhelming out of the 3 dps path and only usable in pf where herta/himeko already dominate)
I’m very surprised at Hunt being above Destruction, or even Preservation. Everytime a comparable Hunt DPS and Destruction DPS is released around the same time, the only thing you tend to hear is how unfair blast-target is versus single-target (even among diehard Hunt enjoyers). Beyond the current game state, it’s hard to avoid the fact that a Hunt character with the same number of turns as a Destruction character could never outcompete them, in pure game mechanics, due to the number of enemies being attacked with each.
Putting Hunt in the context of Feixiao and Nihility in the context of Acheron but not Destruction in the context of Firefly seems strange to me. Break-oriented content is absolutely something every account has to deal with, and Firefly being the premier Breaker makes her an incredibly easy pickup. Her team is the most available in the game, being herself, a free MC unit, a healer that used to be free, and a top two support whose playstyle diversity makes her important for an account anyways. Feixiao’s team does have March (free) and Moze (not free), but her best team is by no means accessible. The three additional limited supports she needs cost the same as if you pulled for E2 Firefly and Ruan Mei.
Nihility is certainly above the two, but not because of Acheron. Its original purpose is to ‘challenge’ Harmony with debuffs instead of buffs, with Acheron just giving you a reason to ever prefer the former before the latter. The core utility of debuffs in addition to Acheron establishing it as a path for DPS is what takes it above the others.
If the reasoning for Hunt being above Preservation is the viability of sustainless raw damage output trumping the need for defense, then yeah. Firefly would bring Destruction above Preservation as well, since Break teams inherently eliminate the possibility of being attacked by the enemy.
@shrekatemyonions very good points, and pretty convincing argument.
However while Firefly is insanely good and a very cheap and easy pickup, Superbreak I feel, at least until Fugue comes out, has a slightly lower ceiling than Acheron and Feixiao, especially in my experience. Not denying how good it is though, just saying Acheron and Feixiao have a higher ceiling, especially from what I've seen.
And while the foundation of the hunt unit is highly flawed, the current units do counteract that incredibly well, and you can't just brush off a good character because the foundation of the path is flawed when this good character fixes the flaws. Doing so many follow up attacks and having multiple bursts fixes the flaw of being single target because you can kill multiple elites with the ult and kill smaller targets with the insane amount of follow up attacks.
What's more, Feixiao is also an insanely easy character to build because of March and Moze.
I can see why you'd put abundance last but it sort of just *feels* wrong. The reason may be how incredibly versatile and strong the abundance path is in basically all iterations of sim uni, it's just strange that the actual characters dont compare. I really think the next abundance character will be truly insane, Lingsha is already pushing that level but not quite there due to being compared with a 4*
Yeah, it's weird how a fundamental path like abundance would rank so low, but that's the unfortunate reality.
Honestly with the way the set up works it makes sense in terms of RPGs in general; Supports will make or break fights. When it comes to the order of Business it's usually Buffs THEN Debuffs as buffs will seldom whiff but Debuffs might. Then of course Boss killers are second most important.
I think you should do the best dps of every path, but also the best dps of every element (preferably if you do this put this after rappa is out)
I'll put that idea in mind, thanks!
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i don't know about anything, but I know that the abundance aeon is hot
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Same with Harmony being hot, even though THEY (I'm making fun of how the pronoun for the aeons are capitalized) have three heads
I thought yaoshi was a man at first
@@noice9193 They could be anything tbh
In the myriad celestia trailer it called yaoshi a she
Harmony > Destruction > Preservation > Nihility > Abundance > Hunt > Erudition for me.
Harmony is obviously GOATed. > Destruction has the highest dps on average. > Preservation is simply important and a near necessity. > Nihility has some extremely strong characters but also some weak ones making them less consistently good than Destruction. Their main issue is their reliance on each other. > Abundance is another must but just less so than preservation. One could argue that Abundance is more useful than Preservation for F2P or new players because they won't be 0 round killing anytime soon. > Hunt really only has Feixiao while Topaz is basically a support. FUA is great but their main weakness is lack of AOE. > Erudition has a niche as AOE dps but is lack luster in everything else.
I would rate preservation a little higher, or at least have a little more recognition. Sure, you could beat the game *without* fu xuan and aventurine but I still think they're extremely valuable.
Good point, but there are only 7 spots and I still don't think a preservation character is likely to be better than any of the characters in any paths ranked higher than preservation
I agree with most of your video excepts Hunt’s placement. Through a logistical standpoint on how the end game modes are made, destruction characters are in a much better position for the long run. This is because both MoC and Apocalyptic Shadow often have small enemies that are much easier for Destruction units to deal with since almost every single one has a form of splash damage. The only reason why Hunt is so good right now is because of two characters; Boothill and Feixiao but, that doesn’t change the fact it’s still just as bad if not worse than Erudition. Erudition characters have pf that they will almost always be best at but, Hunt is only as good as the characters and the meta they’re put in.
By the way I’m viewing the paths as just the path they are, I try not to get too blinded by the units in said path. For example, I agree that objectively unless there’s a lot of changes made to enemies, Abundance < Preservation. However, Preservation as of recently at least, is carried solely by Aventurine. Fu Xuan for me at least (I have e1s1 Fu Xuan) has been having a far more difficult time keeping up with the meta and is on par or is worse than abundance units right now. Sustain characters are shifting to accommodate utility too rather than just sustain which is why Aventurine, HuoHuo, Lingsha and even Gallagher are so good right now. The argument that Abundance > Preservation could be made since right now there are more meta abundance units than preservation but it’s still not true.
@SUPERsourbum I see your argument, but right now the single target-ness of Hunt, which is basically the only thing that could hold it back, is HEAVILY nullified because of Feixiao. Having 2 bursts in a row means you can kill 2 elites in a row, and the amount of overall attacks the current strong hunt units do definitely counteracts that too.
I get why Hunt would be low, but the units, specifically Feixiao of course, counteract the weaknesses of hunt by doing so many follow up attacks, to either pick at the elite enemy or kill smaller targets without much effort.
As for the preservation and abundance thing, then Fu Xuan is still an incredible unit, I have never felt she wasn't good enough, so agree to disagree. And IMO the number of good units in Abundance doesn't counteract the fact that Fu Xuan and Aventurine are so good.
I do personally think that hunt>nihility since nihility lacks use outside of acheron since youd never want a nihility over another character in a team + without feixiao hunt is still super good topaz best fua buffer, ratio free solid dps,even moze and march who can be played in superbreak and lots of other teams
@hxm1sh259 topaz isn't the best FUA buffer, Robin is.
Moze and March can be played in superbreak but definitely not as effectively as Rappa or Firefly. Ratio is good for sure, though, and so is boothill. But I still think if not for feixiao Hunt would be in the exact same situation, maybe slightly worse, than Destruction.
2 insane units, and a few other good units.
Oh and edit: outside of Acheron nihility is still super strong because of DoT and the debuffing. Buffing is better than Debuffing most of the time, but you can't deny the fact that reducing an enemy's def by 40% is crazy.
for me is:
1. Harmony (they're the one that changes the meta)
2. Nihility (second to harmony and how flexible they are)
3. Destruction (due to the blast dmg and consistent up keep on MOC)
4. Hunt (not really good on PF but high dmg output due to FUA teams)
5. Abundance (healing is more forgiving than having shields, having cleanse and buffs are always good, and more 1st time player friendly)
6. Erudition (Good at PF but somewhat good at MOC mostly carried by Rappa)
7. Preservation (shields and dmg mitigation is good but they mostly ran out (i.e. shields are buffs that runs on a timer and dmg mitigation will run out of HP)
I have to agree with the list as far as the current meta goes, even though in my heart destruction will always be no1. ☺
Harmonies are just way too strong, especially Robin. Not that I dislike it, it's cool to do big numbers. It's just that MoC 12 starts to hurt a little on the non-Robin side. Whatever team she's on slices through enemies like a hot knife through butter. Really hoping that Sunday can also buff traditional hypercarry setups. :')
Imo Ruan mei is hella underrated on the non-Robin side. Remember that Ruan mei is still incredibly strong.
But yeah, destruction will always be 1 in my heart.
@@mooseoncaffeine I do use RM on the non-Robin side, and I do like her there, she sometimes helps sustain too.
But in terms of clear speed and raw numbers, the difference between the RM and Robin side is very noticeable.
Still very much capable of clearing, I just want bigger numbers :))
Long live Destruction & Destruction Only 🥰
Before watching I think the ranking is
7. Erudition
6. The Hunt
5. Abundance
4. Destruction
3. Preservation
2. Nihility
1. Harmony
After watching, I was ranking out of total usefulness rather than meta so our lists did turn out differently but I still completely disagree about The Hunt. In the totality of all characters and damage dealers between 5 and 4 stars The Hunt characters are not turn positive. Unless you have Boothill or Feixao you will not be building a team around them and at that you will probably need characters to give them extra turns or a dual dps to give yourself any chance at quickly dispatching enemies. Single enemy damage is just not good enough for most players.
Additionally, Abundance is useful because if you don’t have Aventurine the path is kind of useless (Sorry Fu Xuan & Gepard.) Abundance however has useful characters in both 4 & 5 star that can work well on a well considered team. My preference is taking no damage but barrier for entry is lower for Abundance.
You make some decent points, but as I said in the video I'm talking about best case scenarios.
We're not talking about the accessibility of these characters, I've already talked about that in many videos before. Rather, when all of these paths' characters are taken into account, which would be the most powerful. Which one are you most safe to invest into? The dev team obviously realised Hunt is weak because of single target so they made it stronger. I believe future Hunt units will be strong as well. Same for Preservation. They're also STARTING to do the same for Abundance but unless the whole meta of Abundance changes, preservation is still
Feixiao alone carries hunt, and even though single target only makes it weak, the amount of follow up attacks her and her teammates do and the fact she has 2 bursts does make her very powerful even against 2-3 targets, but against 5 she definitely gets a little weaker.
As for Abundance, then same point here. Aventurine does carry it, but Fu Xuan is still very powerful. Have had her since day 1 and without her my account would be in shambles. She's definitely better than any of the abundance units when it comes to survivability, and she still gives around 12% crit rate.
Either way, thanks for adding to the discussion!
@@mooseoncaffeine I think you’re definitely right on all your points about the meta and I’m excited to see how it will look a year from now!
@ashleighcalvert8937 yep, definitely looking forward to it. HSR has always been so fun.
Thank you for your comments again! ❤️
I have too comment on this, most destruction units has effectively 0 supports in any way, nihility, harmony, abundance, even another destruction, so they just use a unit who can just maximize damage per turn, jingliu and blade have this very badly, both of them are mainly self serving characters, they both use bronya, but neither can properly use sparkle, jingliu can use ruan mei while blade can use robin (if you minmax his damage intake), i do think however that all path will eventually have a character like this, which so far is true, and eventually all units for dps rolls will get a support in some way, so i fully expect and kinda hope this list changes, maybe with a crit abundance character, or a hp based buffing harmony character, maybe itll be sunday, maybe fugue, or maybe even a new set for these buffs, and im a jingliu player with acheron and feixiao, id rather use jingliu and shes getting a new set, but im still worried that blade, jingyuan, and all the other lesser used characters, will they think their mains are forgotten after too long, maybe the new set can also help a lot of other forgotten units and possibly even shine along side others in the harder content.
Anyways, of course harmony is number 1, they enable almost every team in the game too go crazy with dps.
Once destruction gets the proper supports it will be just as good as nihility and hunt. It's just a matter of time before they make a destruction character they want to badly sell.
Wonderful video Moose.
Thanks big man ❤️
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I think that with Fugue (if the leaks are true) nihillity will be the top 1 until Fugue powercreep
Before watching this, I'm betting harmony is the best.
nobody could've expected it for sure 😇
Harmony so good I have all the characters in my second acc
i have all the harmony characters in my imaginary account
@@mooseoncaffeine r u trying to make fun of me or something
@@SentisYATTA I'm making fun of myself dude
@@mooseoncaffeine oh ye I’m fine with that
Nihility is not only Acheron.
I think this tier list is absolutely right , but as a nihility hater(not saying it is bad) i would've swapped nihility and hunt ;)
nihility hating should be a crime
meanwhile me having 2 limited 5star nihilitis and only ratio for hunt on my main. haha...
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Herta Just Being forgotten😅
i believe hunt is placed way too high. Firefly is better than Feixiao and her team is cheaper to obtain and her gear is easier to obtain (SPD/BE vs SPD/ATK/CR/CD)
@jujube222 in my experience, superbreak has a slightly lower ceiling than Feixiao and Feixiao's teams are still very easy to get a hold of despite being slightly harder to build, but good points still. Highly agree that Firefly is very good.
Hunt should be the lowest ngl
I think you over rate dot but i maybe just me😂
Nope, everytime there's a lightning-wind weak enemy Black Swan and Kafka deal with them incredibly easily.
Even just wind weakness, since Black Swan's DoT are the stronger of the two, and by a huge margin.
I need nihility to become number 1 🙏
7. hunt
yes it's effective and simple but the design really makes it restricted and hard to work around to make new characters. Though the true reason I put it at bottom is because I think it got way too much unfair treatment and got artificially boosted to save the path. I am all in for upgrades and adjustment but the hunt glow up honestly feels too devious and ill intentioned.
6. abundance.
pretty much agree with everything said and like... what else to expect from this path?
5. erudition
again, mostly agree but want to add that I think it's the least creative path (in comparison). it's just plain cup of joe
4. preservation
maybe I would've put it a few numbers down but even though there aren't many preservation units, the ones that are available do fill slots like specialists with each character unique and useful in their own way to varying degrees. honestly kudos to hoyo for making a bland role like shielder so interesting and only releasing such complex characters even though there aren't many. I'd rather have a slow and steady release of good preservation units rather than cry about the lack of.
3. destruction
easily has the biggest potential to be the most interesting and unga bunga fun characters with how flexible they can be made. mix and matching different rules and conditions is what allows destruction to have such a versatile and unique roster. also it just has a cool factor to it and has the ability to make any character cooler on release since destruction can be very unique and not just ST like hunt or AoE like erudition. i agree with destruction placement in the video but i really do think this path will get just better and better with time.
2. harmony.
now just hear me out. any buffer in gacha games is gonna be OP like cmon. it's really not fun to give them first place all the time just cause they got a by born right to be the best.
1. nihility
easily the path that can be tweaked, shaped and molded into anything you want. tonnes of mix and match and has unprecedented flexibility that no other path can achieve. destruction being close second. all the characters that have come and will come offer something different and meaningful and always has a spot in the meta. also a slight bias but I'm a sucker for edgy stuff and nihility is like the edgiest edge to ever edge
Funny how you say Nihility is the easiest to tweak yet also the most stagnant among all the paths so far. Aside from Pela, Welt and Acheron, Nihility became that DOT centric path. There are only two direction for Nihility and if they continue to rely on those two, it might come to the point that it will be ranked 5th if not 6th and only being carried by Acheron.
@@ryuuraga1619 if nihility is stagnant, that's all on hoyo. you can actively create unique characters with less restrictions all on your own. other paths are more restrictive.