Honestly, other than Grass, in my opinion, Fire is best left monotype. It's really good as it is, with access to Solar Beam and Sunny Day/Drought/Power Herb to pull a reverse Uno card against any Water types that aren't prepared to face the sun.
True. Same for if they introduce tri-type combos eventually, if the Pokemon Company wants to go in that direction, which I actually hope it happens, especially that will give Charizard some justice by giving it the Dragon-Type alongside with its pre-exisiting Fire/Flying-Type.
Swanna is actually pretty decent for most playthroughs. just like the elemental monkeys, it got neat attacks and speed that can serve you right until the end, while its HP and defeneses suffice
Swanna is one of my favorite Pokémon. So I use it often on playthroughs when it’s available. It’s served me very well. It’s just not a competitive powerhouse. But maybe that doesn’t matter. It’s my friend and we make it to Hall of Fame together :)
I've been using one in Pokemon Y and it's been amazing. Plus if you're playing one of the games requiring HM moves, you can put both Surf and Fly on it and knock two essential (and actually good) HMs in one Pokemon.
Or even better combine the Rock and Ground-Type and turn it into the Earth-Type. These Pokemon would be improved significantly, same for those like Carbink, Diancie (even though the first two have one of the better Rock-Type combinations being Rock/Fairy-Type), Carracosta, Aurous and Crustle.
If your Pokémon's dual type makes it quad~weak but the Mon is hella slow, that is a recipe for disaster. Camerupt, both forms of Avalugg, Wo-Chien, Calyrex~Base, Okidogi, Tapu Bulu, I could go on.
To be fair, Swampert isn't exactly a speed demon with a middling speed of 60, but it has strong enough defenses to still be viable in a playthrough. You need either high speed or decent bulk to overcome a 4X weakness.
@@crazychristopher1989normal avalugg might actually live a hit, so not completely unviable defensively. Adding rock typing must have been some kind of sick joke by gamefreak, no amount of defenses could ever make that typing good.
At times I do things competitively. That is because I know Nature includes preferred flavors. Mints have no effect on the preferred flavors. At least that way the Pokémon can hold different Kinomi.
Aggron is my favorite Pokémon, and i was fully expecting it on the list. Slow, low Special Def, and a type combo that results double weaknesses to both Fighting and Ground, which badly undermines its good physical bulk.
Yaaaa even though rocky arcanine has a great ability, I sometimes choose the original arcanine just so that it's less likely to go comatose from being hit by a single speck of mud.
@@dragonmaster613 To be fair Dipplin got a new evolution right after the second Scarlet and Violet DLC was revealed so it would only be fair to give Flapple and Appleton new evos as well.
Magcargo needs Storm Drain as its ability. Immunity to water, maybe give it a fire type attack uneffected by rain. I don't know, call it lava bubble. This would give Magcargo a cool niche of being a Fire/Rock type that can function in the rain.
Steel/rock Pokemon are terrible due to their many weaknesses and bad offensive prowess. Rock/ground is another terrible typing, basically almost anything that is combined with rock becomes bad except maybe grass or bug
Rock/Fairy-Type and Rock/Flying-Type are the only other Rock-Type combos that are at least better than the rest. At this rate, they should just combo them with the Ground-Type and make them the Earth-Type. And also, be sure to let Carbink and Diancie join the party even though they're based on gemstones.
bro didn't even elaborate on Camerupt or Noctowl like they're so bad that knowing they're bad it's all you need, like not even proof needed like with the others 😭
Another day of me asking you to make a best team for each of the non gen 9 starters in Scarlet and Violet, trying not to use repeats so they can feel unique, I feel they deserve some love and it would be nice to see how well they'd do as the starter in gen 9.
Carbink should be a dishonorable mention. It's in ZU. Sure, it has good bulk with 150 Def and Sp. Def, but every other stat is just 50. Also, it's meant to be to be a support mon, but most of its moves are attacks.
@@FireheartSamurai Thing is : Charizard has one double and two single weaknesses for 4 single and 2 double resistances, alongside one immunity in Ground while Frosmoth has two doubles and two singles weaknesses for three resistances.
Problem with noctowl is it mediocre special attack and defense,like it's extrmely hard to set up calm mind against phisical attackers and even if you do he is way too slow to use air slash or psychic
Aurorus deserves to be on this list, not Hisuian Avalugg. Aurorus is far worse with the Ice/Rock type than Hisuian Avalugg is. Same for Alolan Exeggutor in the Grass/Dragon type and Cramorant in the Water/Flying type. The others are fine, though.
11:45 honestly this could just be fixed by switching its sp. Defence and it's speed Damm noctowl really deserved a mega but NOOoooO we needed to give charzard 2 megas because it's sOoOoOO WeAk
How could you not at least have a dishonorable mention for hisuian growlithe line 4x weak to ground and water or shadow rider calyrex or dawn wings necrozma which both have 4x weakness to dark and ghost type
Hoopa Confined as well with 4x weakness to Ghost and Dark-Types, which makes no sense whatsoever. Psychic should have been immune to Ghost-Types like back in Gen 1 and Ghost and Dark-Types should be able to resist each other.
Before I watch this video I want to make a prediction for the top 10 Fire/Ground Steel/Dark Dragon/flying Steel/Ground Rock/Steel Bug/Steel Electric/Steel Fighting/Steel Ghost/Poison
Just because it has a 4x weakness, doesn’t automatically make it bad (Dragonite/Salamence, Scizor, and Bisharp/Kingambit, and to an lesser extent Magnezone), you could go much worse than these dual-typings, plus Bug/Steel only has 1 weakness Can’t say the same for Rock/Steel and Fire/Ground tho (especially the latter)
I think avalugg is probably too good for this list. the fact that it's a spinner and a physical wall with recover even with it's bad typing makes it way more useful than the rest of these mons.
Cacturne was the first mon that came to mind when I read the title. Too slow, frail, & not great abilities. Great attacking stats but won't get to use them because what I mentioned earlier. GameFreak screw it from the very beginning.
i love how going from 120 speed to 110 speed automatically make Alolan Dugtrio bad. because we all know how much Mystic hates pokemon that arent the fastest things in the universe.
He said that the issue is that they put that 10 points into a defensive stat, which was pointless since both defensive stats and HP are very low. At least put the 10 points into attack.
Hisuian Avalugg loses 10 Sp.Def to gain 10 Speed. What utter garbage. Kalosian Avalugg's Sp.Def is horrible enough as is, no need to lower it even further. Especially to boost its equally horrid speed. At least it has a wide variety of biting moves for Strong Jaw. Bite, Crunch and Ice Fang. It's overflowing with options.
I just love that if you want to beat the shit of Noble Avalugg ... just use a Lucario. Heck, even Riolu can do shit ton of damage to it ... or not since Game Freak nerfed STAB in Arceus.
Mmmmm kinda. 90% of pokemon have a place in some generations tier. Like sharpedos best showing is gen 3 UU, scizor had gen 4 OU, etc etc. Most pokemon are unusable competitive wise. No matter how skilled you are, youre not gonna be winning games with levanny or magcargo.
Give Fire/Ground type Water Absorb as an Ability, and watch it wreck havoc
Most definitely
doesnt need that tbh, just good stats
That is a good idea in practice and on paper
Just one problem. What exactly is a pokemon like that is supposed to be based on?
@@ErintheAutisticOctoling a underwater volcano or geyser?
@@ErintheAutisticOctoling hot springs mon
Fire/Ground is bad unless your name is Primal Groudon and you can just evaporate water attacks
It also helps a ton that it has amazing stats and a wide movepool to work with
Fire/ground is not a bad type combination.
Honestly, other than Grass, in my opinion, Fire is best left monotype. It's really good as it is, with access to Solar Beam and Sunny Day/Drought/Power Herb to pull a reverse Uno card against any Water types that aren't prepared to face the sun.
Dual type. You either help each other or hurt one another
Oh so true
True. Same for if they introduce tri-type combos eventually, if the Pokemon Company wants to go in that direction, which I actually hope it happens, especially that will give Charizard some justice by giving it the Dragon-Type alongside with its pre-exisiting Fire/Flying-Type.
Before watching I'm going to guess: Magcargo and Camerupt will be on the list.
😂😂😂 Exactly what I thought
Well camerupt was on the display for this video
Surprising that Magcargo isn't here because that's one of the first who come to mind. 2 4x weaknesses to commonly used types in Ground and Water
And fire/rock dual typing is worse than fire/ground dual typing.
Delibrd's abilities are a reference to Santa Claus 🧑🎄
Cool. But, it really didn't need two different abilities that do exactly the same thing.
Could have given it Speed Boost.
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Other than baton passing, doubt it would be able to do much with it.
That moment when Macargo with its awful Fire/Rock typing isn’t on here.
He said available in gen 9
@@mattyorshinMagcargo IS in Gen 9. Check the Smogon Pokedex
@@DawnLong-s3k quess it's just how forgetful of a Mon it is
he may have forgotten magcargo was even in gen 9, dont blame him
There's so many Normal/Flying types does it even count as a dule type?
Duel type, yes it does.
Look, I don’t care that it is objectively inferior to Roost, what do you *_mean_* Vespiquen lost Heal Order!?
At least when Delibird became a cyborg, it got banned from OU pretty fast.
Swanna is actually pretty decent for most playthroughs. just like the elemental monkeys, it got neat attacks and speed that can serve you right until the end, while its HP and defeneses suffice
Swanna is one of my favorite Pokémon. So I use it often on playthroughs when it’s available. It’s served me very well. It’s just not a competitive powerhouse. But maybe that doesn’t matter. It’s my friend and we make it to Hall of Fame together :)
I've been using one in Pokemon Y and it's been amazing. Plus if you're playing one of the games requiring HM moves, you can put both Surf and Fly on it and knock two essential (and actually good) HMs in one Pokemon.
Pokémon like aggron & rhyperior would be so good if it didn’t have the rock typing if it had the ground type
Yeah I feel like Aggron would've been better off as pure Steel.
Or even better combine the Rock and Ground-Type and turn it into the Earth-Type. These Pokemon would be improved significantly, same for those like Carbink, Diancie (even though the first two have one of the better Rock-Type combinations being Rock/Fairy-Type), Carracosta, Aurous and Crustle.
Rock/Ground may be shit defensively but good luck trying to resist STAB StoneQuake !
If your Pokémon's dual type makes it quad~weak but the Mon is hella slow, that is a recipe for disaster.
Camerupt, both forms of Avalugg, Wo-Chien, Calyrex~Base, Okidogi, Tapu Bulu, I could go on.
Vanilla Avalugg from Pokémon X and Y is pure Ice. It's only the Hisuian variant from Legends Arceus that has a double typing.
To be fair, Swampert isn't exactly a speed demon with a middling speed of 60, but it has strong enough defenses to still be viable in a playthrough.
You need either high speed or decent bulk to overcome a 4X weakness.
@@crazychristopher1989normal avalugg might actually live a hit, so not completely unviable defensively.
Adding rock typing must have been some kind of sick joke by gamefreak, no amount of defenses could ever make that typing good.
iron bundle is the best response to delibirds crimes for 20 years
I don’t really do competitive so this was a very interesting watch for me, and hope I get to see more like it in the future!
At times I do things competitively. That is because I know Nature includes preferred flavors. Mints have no effect on the preferred flavors. At least that way the Pokémon can hold different Kinomi.
What's funny is you mention Swanna. and yet in my copy of Black 2. it's my star player.
Aggron is my favorite Pokémon, and i was fully expecting it on the list. Slow, low Special Def, and a type combo that results double weaknesses to both Fighting and Ground, which badly undermines its good physical bulk.
Mystic Umbreon clearly stated that he is ONLY mentioning Pokémon who are available in the current generation. Aggron, unfortunately, is NOT in Gen 9
What website did you use at 10:10
It’s either Magcargo or Delibird at number one I’m guessing. Haven’t watched the vid yet lol
Edit: how did Magcargo not make the list?!?
Yaaaa even though rocky arcanine has a great ability, I sometimes choose the original arcanine just so that it's less likely to go comatose from being hit by a single speck of mud.
Swanna,Dedenne, and Flapple need new evolutions.
Hasn't Flapple had enough love given?
The other two, yes need evos.
@@dragonmaster613 To be fair Dipplin got a new evolution right after the second Scarlet and Violet DLC was revealed so it would only be fair to give Flapple and Appleton new evos as well.
@@roxannwinslow6730 oh, yeah. I thought you meant the line as a whole🤣 I had forgotten the names.
9:00 dear lord!! Swanna needs an evolution nothing can save this Pokémon
HTAF did Magcargo miss this list there's nothing redeemable about that mon also 2 4x weaknesses to common types
Magcargo needs Storm Drain as its ability. Immunity to water, maybe give it a fire type attack uneffected by rain. I don't know, call it lava bubble. This would give Magcargo a cool niche of being a Fire/Rock type that can function in the rain.
Steel/rock Pokemon are terrible due to their many weaknesses and bad offensive prowess.
Rock/ground is another terrible typing, basically almost anything that is combined with rock becomes bad except maybe grass or bug
Rock/Fairy-Type and Rock/Flying-Type are the only other Rock-Type combos that are at least better than the rest. At this rate, they should just combo them with the Ground-Type and make them the Earth-Type. And also, be sure to let Carbink and Diancie join the party even though they're based on gemstones.
1:21
I only just now got that eevee eating that poffin boosted its friendship and lead to it evolving
Man, it really hursts to see a majority of this list consisting of my some favorite pokemon
We not talking about his pronunciation of megumi?!?
Is fire ground bad typing? It only has 2 weakness. Fire wise it alrdy worries on ground and water anyway.
Man I can't wait for gen 10, I'm ready for Tera and paradox to be in the rearview mirror
5:13 wow. That's really hard to accomplish considering Avalug was already s tier garbage.
Also, Flapple would be hisui Lilligent if Oricorio didn't absolutely shred with lilligent as a partner.
10:08 Six weaknesses? Don't you mean seven? Dark, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Ice, Poison and Bug?
Psychic neutralizes the weakness to Poison
@@edgargaebolg9307 Psychic does not resist poison.
@@bluesandman7566 Dang it you're right
bro didn't even elaborate on Camerupt or Noctowl like they're so bad that knowing they're bad it's all you need, like not even proof needed like with the others 😭
Another day of me asking you to make a best team for each of the non gen 9 starters in Scarlet and Violet, trying not to use repeats so they can feel unique, I feel they deserve some love and it would be nice to see how well they'd do as the starter in gen 9.
that rant about camerupt also applies to cacturne
Keep up the awesome work and videos love the video
Mega camerupt is good outside trick room if you use it with terrains
What's going on with Delibird is that it wasn't Meant as a Playable Pokemon, it was meant as a Holiday Gimmick Pokemon >.>
Carbink should be a dishonorable mention. It's in ZU. Sure, it has good bulk with 150 Def and Sp. Def, but every other stat is just 50. Also, it's meant to be to be a support mon, but most of its moves are attacks.
If only it got Body Press
That would've made perfect sense.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Frosmoth makes it onto this list. Since it’s typing makes have a 4x weakness to both Fire & Rock type Pokémon.
It takes half damage coming in on rocks unless it's packing boots
True & so does other Pokémon like Charizard
@@FireheartSamurai Thing is : Charizard has one double and two single weaknesses for 4 single and 2 double resistances, alongside one immunity in Ground while Frosmoth has two doubles and two singles weaknesses for three resistances.
9th Gen at least allows turning a dual-type with Solid Rock to a mono-type.
Certain typings for Pokemon make them very unviable especially compared to other Pokemon with the same type. Why use Swanna when Gyarados exists?
Problem with noctowl is it mediocre special attack and defense,like it's extrmely hard to set up calm mind against phisical attackers and even if you do he is way too slow to use air slash or psychic
0:02, yeah they don’t 💀
Ah yes, Delibird, the ice and typing type 💀
Camerupt is basically worse Seviper, especially since Seviper outspeeds by a lot and has good coverage
Noctowl 86 sp atk bad???
Can you do top 10 pokemon that are way too strong and what you would do to nerf them?
Aurorus deserves to be on this list, not Hisuian Avalugg. Aurorus is far worse with the Ice/Rock type than Hisuian Avalugg is. Same for Alolan Exeggutor in the Grass/Dragon type and Cramorant in the Water/Flying type. The others are fine, though.
H. Avalugg has alot of spice in Po-Go.
So Vespiquen would run boots if it only had a 2x weakness to rocks anyway so that’s not even a case to be made 😂
11:45 honestly this could just be fixed by switching its sp. Defence and it's speed
Damm noctowl really deserved a mega but NOOoooO we needed to give charzard 2 megas because it's sOoOoOO WeAk
noctowl is pretty solid in pokemon go, maybe some pokemon go lists? that could be cool
Delibird is so terrible that in random battles it is level 100. but its futuristic version got banned from OU
No Magcargo? 😮
I thought Frosmoth would be here. Ice/Bug is an atrocious typing, two double weaknesses is a red flag already, but its stats are abysmal.
My Alolan Dugtrio with Sucker Punch destroyed Mewtwo in Let's Go:-D
Then again, I destroyed him with my Blastoise using Bite.
How could you not at least have a dishonorable mention for hisuian growlithe line 4x weak to ground and water or shadow rider calyrex or dawn wings necrozma which both have 4x weakness to dark and ghost type
Calyrex shadow rider is one of the strongest pokemon of all time tho. And H arcanine isnt that bad, its better in vgc.
Hoopa Confined as well with 4x weakness to Ghost and Dark-Types, which makes no sense whatsoever. Psychic should have been immune to Ghost-Types like back in Gen 1 and Ghost and Dark-Types should be able to resist each other.
Slow, frail, mixed attacker, the Hoenn special.
I am on such SEVERE Copium for Calyrex on its own cuz like, god damn
That big ass crown just shows he ain’t fit for it without the horse
I was expecting to see Parasect on this list. It has very bad stats and a bad dual typing of grass and bug, which has two x4 times weaknesses.
Before I watch this video I want to make a prediction for the top 10
Fire/Ground
Steel/Dark
Dragon/flying
Steel/Ground
Rock/Steel
Bug/Steel
Electric/Steel
Fighting/Steel
Ghost/Poison
Just because it has a 4x weakness, doesn’t automatically make it bad (Dragonite/Salamence, Scizor, and Bisharp/Kingambit, and to an lesser extent Magnezone), you could go much worse than these dual-typings, plus Bug/Steel only has 1 weakness
Can’t say the same for Rock/Steel and Fire/Ground tho (especially the latter)
I think avalugg is probably too good for this list. the fact that it's a spinner and a physical wall with recover even with it's bad typing makes it way more useful than the rest of these mons.
Looks like I’m doing a worst team for scarlet and violet
You forgot grass/bug lol. Two 4 times weakness to fire and flying. Plus more weaknesses. Definitely a terrible type
The only ones I find to be any good in the first place is the Leavanny line. The rest are garbage.
@@pussmagic1541 Parasect was a threat to Kyogre in DPPT
@@edgargaebolg9307 That's because anything that doesn't die to Kyogre's Water Spout is a Threat.
6:30 thats the pretentious way of saying "its bad against water"
Basically if slow and a dual weakness it sucks. Maybe speed should just not exist 😅 and just randomise who first
Macargo is another dump pokemon
Wow! Parasect didn't make the list.
Cacturne was the first mon that came to mind when I read the title. Too slow, frail, & not great abilities. Great attacking stats but won't get to use them because what I mentioned earlier. GameFreak screw it from the very beginning.
I think Delibird is the worst Duo type in Pokemon.
Fire/rock
Grass/bug
Hisuan Avalugg and Parasect
Idk why Parasect isn't part ghost xD
@@count-abra4864bug and ghost would be dope
i love how going from 120 speed to 110 speed automatically make Alolan Dugtrio bad. because we all know how much Mystic hates pokemon that arent the fastest things in the universe.
He said that the issue is that they put that 10 points into a defensive stat, which was pointless since both defensive stats and HP are very low.
At least put the 10 points into attack.
Hisuian Avalugg loses 10 Sp.Def to gain 10 Speed. What utter garbage. Kalosian Avalugg's Sp.Def is horrible enough as is, no need to lower it even further. Especially to boost its equally horrid speed. At least it has a wide variety of biting moves for Strong Jaw. Bite, Crunch and Ice Fang. It's overflowing with options.
I just love that if you want to beat the shit of Noble Avalugg ... just use a Lucario.
Heck, even Riolu can do shit ton of damage to it ... or not since Game Freak nerfed STAB in Arceus.
Parasect … instead of Noc
I disagree with Alolan dugtrio. The ability is good
Yeah, even I’ve gotta admit Camerupt is a little meh. 😒
11:35 Yes we get it Noctowl sucks, leave my boi alone. One day he could get an evolution then we look back on this video and laugh about it.
U forgot to add torterra he sucks and it’s quad weak to ice and it’s ultra slow and weak
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Weezing is not a bad pokemon
Especially not the Galar variant.
Tbf, all Pokémon are good if you use them right.
Mmmmm kinda. 90% of pokemon have a place in some generations tier. Like sharpedos best showing is gen 3 UU, scizor had gen 4 OU, etc etc. Most pokemon are unusable competitive wise. No matter how skilled you are, youre not gonna be winning games with levanny or magcargo.
Hope it’s not just all 4x weaknesses