I think at some point we just have to accept that the Timberwolves are a really good team. This series was never going to be easy. It worries me that Ant and KAT didn't play well at all and we still lost.
There is a real concern and rumor in the Suns Reddit Sub that Booker and maybe even KD are smoking weed before the game... thus they cant shoot.... who knows... nothing would suprise me... Booker, after getting smoked by the Clippers when asked how they feel about the game.. he said.. we are chillin... that could mean high...
Man, Booker is losing his mind. Fans who consume ESPN and their never-ending coverage of the NBAs "chic" franchises are catching up to the fact that Jaden McDaniels is the best wing defender in the NBA. Well, yall had to learn at some point.
Why are you commenting on videos covering the Suns? I have never once gone in another team’s video comments to say things and think it’s really weird that wolves fans do
@@biggiesmalls1930 that’s totally fine, people who like to understand other perspectives are more intelligent people, even in sports. You aren’t coming in here to talk s*** and tell our fans how good your players are. So that didn’t apply to you
On offense we have taken the ball out of the hands of Booker, Beal and KD to have Nurkic run it. It is so predictable as I have been screaming at my screen all season. Against great defense like Wolves, it stands out bigger. Whenever he has the ball, nobody is afraid that he will shoot from outside, not afraid he will dribble inside. All the 5 defenders are backing off him and guarding the 4 he is making a play for with an extra man. With an extra defender it is nearly impossible for his teammates to get open. By the time one eventually squeezes out of the scramble to get open barely, the shot clock has run down, and Nurkic just throws it hoping they will be in that spot. They rarely get a clean catch to get a shot off as when they do the extra defender is already in their space, forcing them to shoot without any rhythm or even making it easier for the defenders to strip them causing turnovers. Booker, Beal and Durant are wasting more energy trying to get separation on offense when Nurkic is play making for them. By the time the second half comes around they have already spent all their energy in the first half just to get separated from the extra defender that is guarding them. It is why there is little to no movement after half time. This is on top of also working hard to lose defenders on their isolations as well just to get a shot off. On top of that with Nurkic in the lineup they are forced to spend too much energy chasing around on defense. With his inability to be a non-factor on defense they are covering for him too much. Don't get me wrong he may alter some shots once in a while and make some great passes which looks good to the degree that we erase the other negatives when we win games but in losses it stands out the most. The inability to have a rim protecter for a big who can alter shots forces teams to go inside at will with Nurkic in there. The inabilities of our guards to defend other guards and forwards makes it even easier to break us down on defense. The physicality with stronger and bigger teams wears us down quickly. Our weaknesses are going to be exploited and exposed from inside and outside in this series. Nurkic is only a positive against a Jokic so he can take up space, but faster and athletic Bigs and guards treat him like meal every time they see him in the lineup. The only way for the Suns to survive is to go all small and outshoot them with ball movement instead of ISO ball. We need to drive the Minnesota Bigs out of the game and out of the paint by forcing over 50 three pointers. Let the Wolves go get the 2 pointers as we can't stop that but let us do what we can by raining down 3 pointers. Put Bol, KD, EG, Beal, Booker out there now. You can put Thad out there too and Royce as well but keep the Nurkic and Eubanks out of the game. Minnesota has gone nuclear mode with defense, and we can only go against that with nuclear mode on offense. That means taking out non shooting Bigs and putting all shooters all over the floor and forcing the defense to scramble around while we can go in if they run up and pull up from the mid and drain the three if they stay back. The question right now is Vogel, a defensive minded coach, going to have the heart to go accept offense is needed to beat that defense. What are you going to do now Vogel, as putting that lineup with a non-factor Nurkic/Eubanks on defense and offense is destroying us. It is a must we go into a combat with offense and that is to unleash all small from the start or after few minutes. It is time now.
Timberwolves had the league's best defense all season. McDaniel and Gobert are top-level defenders. Either one would have a case for DPOY. Alexander-Walker and Edwards aren't far behind. KD can score on anyone, but McDaniels makes him work hard and take what would be bad shots for anyone else. Edwards and Walker can torment Beal and Book, and Gobert is one of the elite rim defenders in the NBA. The Suns have to get out and run to be effective, but it's tough to run when you are always taking the ball out of the basket.
@@brucegoolsby1470you guys never needed KD or Brad Beal . That new owner in phx gutted the team . You guys were fun to watch with CP3 but now it’s a mess
I'll keep it short. Phoenix Suns gots to know what kind of team they have. Suns won't win games with their defense or being tough. There are no excuses for the amount of turnovers, it's just simple basic fundamentals, make smart passes. With Booker, Beal and KD we should be offensive Juggernauts, as a team that should be the Suns primary strength, we need to lean all the way into outscoring other teams like the Pacers. Suns must score between 120 -130 points every game, no matter who's doing the majority of the scoring, bol bol could be a contributor on offense if played. Under 100 point in a playoff game for this team is unexceptable.
The organization needs to shutdown and sell their rights to another city, period. They aren't a true franchise like they once were in the 90s. Seriously, the fans need to stop throwing their money away on a product that has never worked in 56 years.
The Suns played much better in the first half than they did in Game 1. Also I counted at least 5 easy dunks/layups that the Suns just missed. That’s 10 points alone off of easy buckets they could’ve had. Also if we were to be conservative and say we committed only half of the TO’s that we had, we probably win Game 2. I know everyone’s kind of dooming right now but the Suns CAN win this series, they just have to stop being so damn careless with the ball. We’re going up against the best team in the division. The Wolves basically led the west for most of the season so if you thought this was going to be an easy series then you’ve got another thing coming.
The glass half full perspective is that there is more “meat on the bone” for the Suns because of those missed opportunities. The counter argument is “you could make the same case for Minnesota as Ant and KAT aren’t shooting that bad/in foul trouble all series”. You could also argue that the Wolves defence is causing the turnovers so it’ll be hard to fully clean those up
Those layups were altered by the Wolves rim presence. You can't just count those as made shots. Also the Suns got the majority of the calls in this game.
Ant didn't shoot well but 8 assists and great defense. He made winning plays all night. KD is one dimensional. He makes mid range jumpers and... thats about it.
Suns are playing scared. They need to drive to score and stop driving to pass. Minnesota is on to them. Beal and Durant needs to try to dunk on Rudy. Secondly we need Bol Bol and Rudy size. If Frank doesn’t play them we are getting swept
Suns will win Game 3. I promise you that. Everything will be on the line in Game 4, and if they win, it’s a new series of best 2 out of 3. I know being down 0-2 feels like it’s over, I understand that it feels like we’re going to get swept. But I promise you, the series is far from over and this is probably going to go 7 games. I’ll get ripped apart from you guys for saying this. That’s ok. But I’ll be here in about 12 days to remind everyone who clowns on me for saying this that I was right
I think the most frustrating part about this loss is that the Suns (at least in the first half) matched everything T-Wolves could throw at them. Outside of the points off moronic turnovers Suns were exceeding their physicality, destroying them on the glass, and caused as many turnovers (even if they somehow couldn't convert). I think thats been our 3rd biggest problem all year dont why the it happens but we just move away from whats working mid game.
Also as big of a Vogel defender as I've been there is no way you have Okogie and Bol who would be massive help on defense, IT who plays PG (even if he is on the back end of his career) who has way more experience bringing the ball up then Book and Beal, Thad who's been great in his limited mins all exclusively playing fcking garbage time
Booker, Durant and Bradley are quickly becoming irrelevant. They play like they're scared they don't play like superstars. No leadership whatsoever, no heart no toughness this team is very flawed.
Frank Vogel is a terrible coach period, and I've said it all season. There is too much talent on this team to play how they play. If Booker is playing terrible, then play Isiah Thomas. If we need better defense on McDaniels and Ant, then play Okogie and Little. If they're going to continue to play big, then start Bol and have Grayson come off the bench. Vogel can't coach, enough said.
Game 2 was much better for the Suns than Game 1, but we still got blown out. 1) unforced turnovers. How many times did guys fail to catch a pass, or the passer just throw it out of bounds? 2) the game really got out of hand around when Allen got hurt and Booker got called for his 4th foul. The problem for the Suns is that we're top heavy, so when we even a role player like Allen, we're suddenly playing a league min guy 25+ minutes. Things that went better in Game 2: Nurk crashes the boards hard. The Suns probably got way more 2nd chance points. Eric Gordon was aggressive and hitting shots. Booker played better, but not really good. Anthony Edwards was largely contained/limited. Thing that still went poorly: turnovers, just WAY too many.
There was a decent chunk of time where the Suns decided to throw it into their center in the low post and try to go at Gobert and it failed miserably. They did it over and over and over again. I mean, you got three basically Hall of Fame type scorers and you’re not using them to score..
Where are "Better Help" commercials when you need them!?!? Marketing department dropped the ball by not getting them to sponsor this series. 😁 Edit: Nice, shouldn't have commented before the end of the video.
I feel like we are getting ready for Thanksgiving because.... the Suns are cooked..... GEE...SO GLAD WE DESTROYED THE 2021 TEAM filled with young talent and chemistry........
Boy these Suns media ppl are so delusional it’s crazy. Like they been talking about the same thing with this team basically the entire season and here we are in the playoffs and the same thing is happening. They got all 3 stars on the court so that’s no excuse. THIS TEAM IS COOKED!!! They’ll probably win game 3 or 4, but I this team is trash. Just 3 stars with no cohesion. WHEN they don’t win the chip, you gotta let someone go
How do you go from KEVIN JOHNSON 3 time (ALL STAR)(ALL NBA) Should be in (HOF)😐 to STEVE NASH 2 Time MVP* & First Ballot (HOF) CP3 THE POINT GOD & All of a sudden you THINK you dont need a POINT GUARD
So isn’t having a more physical, motivated, good passer, shoot 3’s, box out/set screen center “ suppose to be the answer? Since the last center got blamed for everything wrong pretty much. Does Nurk not have any expectations or pressure to perform? We blew out this same team to set up this match up… what changed? All I see is a team that wants it more in the Wolves. PG, Bol Bol or Vogel is a scapegoat cause you don’t want to blame the big 4
I saw this coming 2 years ago when the suns traded their core for Kevin Durant then shipped Ayton out. Ayton finished the season on an absolute tear and the twins proved in Brooklyn why they were great ROLE PLAYERS as opposed to leading guys. We did it all for Booker and he will soon leave the suns high and dry. It’s gonna be a long ugly rebuild. Rather than contend for 10 years and hopefully break through one or two of those years we took the “super team” route with OLD washed up stars as if CP3 didn’t show us what becomes of old star players. Suns fans got what they deserved- Booker is not a #1 for a championship team. He ain’t got it 🤷🏾♂️
I am a Wolves fan, but I truly loved the Suns with when it was Nash and Amare. That usually holds over and I still would like them, but Booker is really really hard to like. He makes contact too often that would be called an offensive foul at the start of this season. Its push off after push off. Our guys are big and physical naturally. Booker is trying to react to our physicality by being physical back, and it just looks like a kid having a tantrum. I do like Durant because Durant is good at Basketball.
Minnesota ain’t going nowhere either be real. We all know from watching the suns all year they’re not legit. But for you Minnesota idiotic fans thinking you’re gonna get out of the western finals is delusional
Forget about making adjustments exploiting this exploiting that against the wolves, why? this team is so undisciplined, badly coached that they can’t even not turn over the ball like crazy running stuff they were familiar with, how do you expect them to execute some newly generated gameplans they were not familiar with? This team is not functioning as an unit, that’s why they look uninterested, because they know this thing ain’t working, they have no idea what they are supposed to do on court, how can suns fans have confidence in them when they don’t even believe in themselves? Their body language and expressions said it all.
Same story as last year when they got obliterated by Nuggets in the losses and barely would eek out a win. The only reason they won against Clippers was because PG and Kawhi didn’t play. Suns are overrated
You need to find a way to deal with mcdaniels and Gobert on defense. If Booker can’t score and you can’t get to the rim you won’t win games against the Timberwolves.
If we being serious, kd book and Beal aren’t serious about winning because if they were they would take pay cut to help with the roster situation. Kd and book Beal thought the can win by their offense alone but you kinda need other around you to play defense and be a threat. You ain’t gonna get that or a chip without taking a pay cut so those 3 are absolutely not at all about winning
To me this series is over, They need a miracle to pull it off. I don't see adjustments for game 3 Vogel shouldn't have been Sun's head coach. That's a bad look for all these especially Booker, KD and Beal. They just play iso basketball and they don't run any offense. It's such a shame!
2025 season dream scenario: JJ Redick doesn’t go to Charlotte and takes the head coach job in PHX. Vogel is probably getting fired no matter how far we make it into the playoffs. Absolutely will after a 1st round exit.
As a Wolves fan, yeah the series isn’t over, you guys get to show what you got on home…but man Booker ain’t that dude, sorry From watching KAT and Dlo run the show from my early Wolves year I know what fake talk looks like. Now I would say Booker is significantly BETTER than those 2 listed (Booker went on a Finals run lol). Anyways, u guys for not leadership, depth, or size. Sorry, but goodluck! Jaden McDaniels does this to many guys
Bahaha, who would've thought.... installing a defensive minded coach with zero playable defensive players, no proper pg a centre who doesn't fit what they need. 3 star players who all do the same thing would work 😂😂
Suns fans didn’t appreciate CP3 enough. He’s been the way better Sun than KD it’s not even close. Those Suns teams had leadership, toughness and grit. This Suns team lacks leadership, mental stamina, intestinal fortitude and are soft and lazy which embodies Durant as a player. The second it gets difficult he puts his head down and pouts. Durant has to go along with the front office and coaching staff.
wtf was cp3 this season? where was he last season against nuggets. you are hyping a guy up that cannot help them win bc he is always hurt and inconsistent.
@@2cents250they not talking about cp this year they talking about what he did when he first got here versus what kd has done …not even close cp got them to the finals in his first year KD has them nowhere near that
Didn’t the suns fans say they were going to win a chip. And said they were better than okc. Lucky you didn’t run into okc they would smoked that pack all day. Lakers was probably thinking the same thing. They ran away from okc they knew they get embarrassed. Cancun time for yall. Time to trade everyone fire sale and full rebuild.
@@mrhoopfan1 technically we ended up getting a PG in Thomas , I’m really speaking on mikal…cam was replaceable. Everyone else sucks besides the big 3 and Grayson….but the big 3 dont even play well together. 🗑️ 😡
Brendon, man, We need you to get in there and just take Vogels clip board, and chalk board, and show the team how someone with actual intelligence is all were missing.... SMART LEADER
Suns have a bunch of number 2s. Being a number 1 is not just about being the best “scorer”. KD is great, but his best years are with a Westbrook or Curry. Somebody who can dictate the game. They bend it so that KD can break it.
@@2cents250 Harden is a number 1 as well. A number 1 does not have to be the best scorer it just means the offensive gameplan should be set up by them or around them. Telling KD to be the best scorer and elite initiator is unfair.
Fire Frank Vogel. This coach is garbage the big 3 is exhausted and Frank ran the other dude until he literally broke is ankles... There are quality guys on the bench getting 0 playing time while Book, Beal and Durant run on empty!!!
We need to have honest devin booker conversations, we the difference between him and luka is one is a man one is a boy. He needs to fix up and man up. He sounds delusional now after games. He's 27 and hasn't done anything significant in a long while
I wanna to know if people like Sun's Geek still think Suns in 5? The Wolves were battling for the one spot, while Phoenix was bailed out by the Lakers winning against the Pels, which gave the Suns the sixth spot.
🤣🤣KD and the Booger man bout to get SWEPT!!🤣🤣🤣 Luka Magic at work again! We already getting the BROOMS READY for some work! Time to sweep up all the TRASH off the court and get ready for ANOTHER REBUILD! What a JOKE the PHX Losers are now and will always be after not drafting the Great Luka when they had a chance!! Thanks, from Dallas! Go Mavs!!
I think at some point we just have to accept that the Timberwolves are a really good team. This series was never going to be easy. It worries me that Ant and KAT didn't play well at all and we still lost.
McDaniels has Booker in jail
Without bail and they lost the key. Locked him up!
There is a real concern and rumor in the Suns Reddit Sub that Booker and maybe even KD are smoking weed before the game... thus they cant shoot.... who knows... nothing would suprise me... Booker, after getting smoked by the Clippers when asked how they feel about the game.. he said.. we are chillin... that could mean high...
Booker got his self in jail if he stop trying to get a foul called he will play better
@@dingytv538excuses boi Jaden locked boi
@AllanteHarvey Yeah, it's only Booker. Mcdaniels has no effect. Riiight.
Are wa talking about how dominant Gobert is ? The suns are so scared to go in.
Man, Booker is losing his mind. Fans who consume ESPN and their never-ending coverage of the NBAs "chic" franchises are catching up to the fact that Jaden McDaniels is the best wing defender in the NBA. Well, yall had to learn at some point.
Why are you commenting on videos covering the Suns? I have never once gone in another team’s video comments to say things and think it’s really weird that wolves fans do
Is that not allowed? I listened to this entire video just to see what the other side thinks. I like to have perspective
@@biggiesmalls1930 that’s totally fine, people who like to understand other perspectives are more intelligent people, even in sports. You aren’t coming in here to talk s*** and tell our fans how good your players are. So that didn’t apply to you
@@zeus4885I mean lots of suns fans were way too overconfident because of the regular season, so it's nice to see them eat crow.
@@thorkagemob1297over confident? We barely f**kin made it in😂 don’t know what suns fans you’ve been talking too but they must be casuals
Suns are a finesse team. Aren't handling the physicality that come with the playoffs.
Sucker team
It looks hopeless but if this is the magical year it could happen!
Why don't we see Bol Bol, Thadeus Young or maybe Nassir Little?
Bol Bol is too skinny. He'd get manhandled.
On offense we have taken the ball out of the hands of Booker, Beal and KD to have Nurkic run it. It is so predictable as I have been screaming at my screen all season. Against great defense like Wolves, it stands out bigger. Whenever he has the ball, nobody is afraid that he will shoot from outside, not afraid he will dribble inside. All the 5 defenders are backing off him and guarding the 4 he is making a play for with an extra man.
With an extra defender it is nearly impossible for his teammates to get open. By the time one eventually squeezes out of the scramble to get open barely, the shot clock has run down, and Nurkic just throws it hoping they will be in that spot. They rarely get a clean catch to get a shot off as when they do the extra defender is already in their space, forcing them to shoot without any rhythm or even making it easier for the defenders to strip them causing turnovers.
Booker, Beal and Durant are wasting more energy trying to get separation on offense when Nurkic is play making for them. By the time the second half comes around they have already spent all their energy in the first half just to get separated from the extra defender that is guarding them. It is why there is little to no movement after half time. This is on top of also working hard to lose defenders on their isolations as well just to get a shot off.
On top of that with Nurkic in the lineup they are forced to spend too much energy chasing around on defense. With his inability to be a non-factor on defense they are covering for him too much. Don't get me wrong he may alter some shots once in a while and make some great passes which looks good to the degree that we erase the other negatives when we win games but in losses it stands out the most.
The inability to have a rim protecter for a big who can alter shots forces teams to go inside at will with Nurkic in there. The inabilities of our guards to defend other guards and forwards makes it even easier to break us down on defense. The physicality with stronger and bigger teams wears us down quickly. Our weaknesses are going to be exploited and exposed from inside and outside in this series.
Nurkic is only a positive against a Jokic so he can take up space, but faster and athletic Bigs and guards treat him like meal every time they see him in the lineup. The only way for the Suns to survive is to go all small and outshoot them with ball movement instead of ISO ball. We need to drive the Minnesota Bigs out of the game and out of the paint by forcing over 50 three pointers. Let the Wolves go get the 2 pointers as we can't stop that but let us do what we can by raining down 3 pointers. Put Bol, KD, EG, Beal, Booker out there now. You can put Thad out there too and Royce as well but keep the Nurkic and Eubanks out of the game.
Minnesota has gone nuclear mode with defense, and we can only go against that with nuclear mode on offense. That means taking out non shooting Bigs and putting all shooters all over the floor and forcing the defense to scramble around while we can go in if they run up and pull up from the mid and drain the three if they stay back.
The question right now is Vogel, a defensive minded coach, going to have the heart to go accept offense is needed to beat that defense. What are you going to do now Vogel, as putting that lineup with a non-factor Nurkic/Eubanks on defense and offense is destroying us.
It is a must we go into a combat with offense and that is to unleash all small from the start or after few minutes. It is time now.
Timberwolves had the league's best defense all season. McDaniel and Gobert are top-level defenders. Either one would have a case for DPOY. Alexander-Walker and Edwards aren't far behind. KD can score on anyone, but McDaniels makes him work hard and take what would be bad shots for anyone else. Edwards and Walker can torment Beal and Book, and Gobert is one of the elite rim defenders in the NBA. The Suns have to get out and run to be effective, but it's tough to run when you are always taking the ball out of the basket.
This Suns team been inconsistent all season
That's their only consistent trait...inconsistency.
Anyone with a brain seen this outcome 2 months ago . I feel bad for suns fans that had to be the victim of the KD curse . 😂
@@brucegoolsby1470you guys never needed KD or Brad Beal . That new owner in phx gutted the team . You guys were fun to watch with CP3 but now it’s a mess
I'll keep it short. Phoenix Suns gots to know what kind of team they have. Suns won't win games with their defense or being tough. There are no excuses for the amount of turnovers, it's just simple basic fundamentals, make smart passes. With Booker, Beal and KD we should be offensive Juggernauts, as a team that should be the Suns primary strength, we need to lean all the way into outscoring other teams like the Pacers. Suns must score between 120 -130 points every game, no matter who's doing the majority of the scoring, bol bol could be a contributor on offense if played. Under 100 point in a playoff game for this team is unexceptable.
Sure was short 😂 u done.... Still wish u win and than to be demolished by Denver but u are done
THIS
The organization needs to shutdown and sell their rights to another city, period. They aren't a true franchise like they once were in the 90s. Seriously, the fans need to stop throwing their money away on a product that has never worked in 56 years.
The Suns played much better in the first half than they did in Game 1. Also I counted at least 5 easy dunks/layups that the Suns just missed. That’s 10 points alone off of easy buckets they could’ve had. Also if we were to be conservative and say we committed only half of the TO’s that we had, we probably win Game 2. I know everyone’s kind of dooming right now but the Suns CAN win this series, they just have to stop being so damn careless with the ball. We’re going up against the best team in the division. The Wolves basically led the west for most of the season so if you thought this was going to be an easy series then you’ve got another thing coming.
Agreed....moved the ball great early in game and pushed hard in transition 1st half, although some bad turnovers
“Yeah if the Suns played way better than they actually did, they win” lol
The glass half full perspective is that there is more “meat on the bone” for the Suns because of those missed opportunities.
The counter argument is “you could make the same case for Minnesota as Ant and KAT aren’t shooting that bad/in foul trouble all series”. You could also argue that the Wolves defence is causing the turnovers so it’ll be hard to fully clean those up
Suns can’t keep the pace up they get burned off the floor
Those layups were altered by the Wolves rim presence. You can't just count those as made shots.
Also the Suns got the majority of the calls in this game.
Durants a scorer but not from beating guys off the dribble and that’s what bends the defense.
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Agree. As a Wolves fan, the first few possessions, KD was driving and I'm like.. dude.. just go back to your jump shots. It's working.
He needs to drive more to put pressure on the defense. He isnt a terrible finisher around the rim. Much better thank Nurkic.
@@2cents250 yeah I agree but idk how much juice is left given age and injury
Beavis is scoring more than Booker in this series 🤣
I’ve given up on the team. I’m a new Booker hater now
Suns not playing like they wanna ring
Some suns fans didn’t appreciate CP3 enough
@@SimpleEats35Book is a shell of himself without CP3. Looking real funny in the light
CP3 sucks now, he’s about to retire.
Suns was irrelevant for years before CP3. Cp3 changed the entire suns culture. Would easily take Cp3 for the vet minimum over Beal bum ass
Cp3 changed the entire culture for the suns. Before Cp3 Suns was a joke of a team and irrelevant. Now they are headed right back into irrelevancy
Yup. After watching KD on this team it’s become clear as dat how under appreciated CP3 was
Ant didn't shoot well but 8 assists and great defense. He made winning plays all night. KD is one dimensional. He makes mid range jumpers and... thats about it.
What does Booker do…remind me?
@@dayvercetti4156foul
@@dayvercetti4156I’m waiting for him to answer as well
@@dayvercetti4156kind of the same. All he has is a smooth jumper off the dribble. Provides nothing else
KD is shooting 40% from 3 and he is the best defender to a certain point.
Durant , Booker and Beal are resting and chilling this 2 games 😂😂😂😂
Yall need more back cuts… like Beal pulled on NAW. That’ll keep the defense honest.
Gg’s game 2 - 🐺 its a long series
Not when it's over in 4 or 5.
I was assured that Gobert would get played off the court in the playoffs :(
He playing the Suns off the court lmao
Suns are playing scared. They need to drive to score and stop driving to pass. Minnesota is on to them. Beal and Durant needs to try to dunk on Rudy. Secondly we need Bol Bol and Rudy size. If Frank doesn’t play them we are getting swept
Sun looks dejected, tired, and defeated. If they were to win this Friday, I'm afraid they might really empty their gas tank to pull off the win.
Even if they get past the wolves, they ain’t gonna beat the nuggets. It’s over already even though it’s sad to say
Getting past the t-wolves? The more the the suns can do right now is not to get swept
😂@@Sol_oz🎉
Two home court losing up coming
Suns will win Game 3. I promise you that. Everything will be on the line in Game 4, and if they win, it’s a new series of best 2 out of 3. I know being down 0-2 feels like it’s over, I understand that it feels like we’re going to get swept. But I promise you, the series is far from over and this is probably going to go 7 games.
I’ll get ripped apart from you guys for saying this. That’s ok. But I’ll be here in about 12 days to remind everyone who clowns on me for saying this that I was right
Only 33 out of 416 teams down 0-2 came back to win the series. Wolves got the suns in Jail. 32-2 points off turnovers man. This shits over over.
I think the most frustrating part about this loss is that the Suns (at least in the first half) matched everything T-Wolves could throw at them. Outside of the points off moronic turnovers Suns were exceeding their physicality, destroying them on the glass, and caused as many turnovers (even if they somehow couldn't convert). I think thats been our 3rd biggest problem all year dont why the it happens but we just move away from whats working mid game.
Also as big of a Vogel defender as I've been there is no way you have Okogie and Bol who would be massive help on defense, IT who plays PG (even if he is on the back end of his career) who has way more experience bringing the ball up then Book and Beal, Thad who's been great in his limited mins all exclusively playing fcking garbage time
Booker, Durant and Bradley are quickly becoming irrelevant. They play like they're scared they don't play like superstars. No leadership whatsoever, no heart no toughness this team is very flawed.
They are scared to get blocked. And they should.
Super start players shine these moments but big 3 is trash
Wouldn’t it be great if we still had cp3 to run the p&r 😅 wonder if the suns will pick him up after the warriors dump him
KD scored 7pts in the 2nd half & shot the ball just once in the 4th. Thats inexcusable
This is why it's crazy McDaniels is not 1st team all defense easy. He does this to everyone.
Nahh, dog. He has the DPOY backing him up, making his job easier night in and night out.
@whenthemaskfalls8591 What makes Jaden great is getting through screens and using his length to get great contests, neither rely on Rudy at all.
Booker and Durant have to create and finish most plays.........They need a True point guard and another big
Frank Vogel is a terrible coach period, and I've said it all season. There is too much talent on this team to play how they play. If Booker is playing terrible, then play Isiah Thomas. If we need better defense on McDaniels and Ant, then play Okogie and Little. If they're going to continue to play big, then start Bol and have Grayson come off the bench. Vogel can't coach, enough said.
Game 2 was much better for the Suns than Game 1, but we still got blown out.
1) unforced turnovers. How many times did guys fail to catch a pass, or the passer just throw it out of bounds?
2) the game really got out of hand around when Allen got hurt and Booker got called for his 4th foul.
The problem for the Suns is that we're top heavy, so when we even a role player like Allen, we're suddenly playing a league min guy 25+ minutes.
Things that went better in Game 2:
Nurk crashes the boards hard. The Suns probably got way more 2nd chance points.
Eric Gordon was aggressive and hitting shots.
Booker played better, but not really good.
Anthony Edwards was largely contained/limited.
Thing that still went poorly: turnovers, just WAY too many.
There was a decent chunk of time where the Suns decided to throw it into their center in the low post and try to go at Gobert and it failed miserably.
They did it over and over and over again.
I mean, you got three basically Hall of Fame type scorers and you’re not using them to score..
Booker is trash, and people say this is his team. Really? Book had about a hundred turnovers. The Kardashian curse is real.
Durant doesn't want to set screens and move off ball that's why
Where are "Better Help" commercials when you need them!?!?
Marketing department dropped the ball by not getting them to sponsor this series.
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Edit: Nice, shouldn't have commented before the end of the video.
I feel like we are getting ready for Thanksgiving because.... the Suns are cooked..... GEE...SO GLAD WE DESTROYED THE 2021 TEAM filled with young talent and chemistry........
I think the broom and the dust pan are ready to sweep and scoop them up in the trash can, if they don’t get their act together.
Boy these Suns media ppl are so delusional it’s crazy. Like they been talking about the same thing with this team basically the entire season and here we are in the playoffs and the same thing is happening. They got all 3 stars on the court so that’s no excuse. THIS TEAM IS COOKED!!! They’ll probably win game 3 or 4, but I this team is trash. Just 3 stars with no cohesion. WHEN they don’t win the chip, you gotta let someone go
Why are you here? Go gloat on the wolves fan pages and don’t worry about what tf we got going on over.
I think that the new York Knicks goin to be the NBA final Champion this is Crazy this is dribin me nuts
Yall got kd but we git MCDANIELS
How do you go from KEVIN JOHNSON 3 time (ALL STAR)(ALL NBA) Should be in (HOF)😐 to STEVE NASH 2 Time MVP* & First Ballot (HOF) CP3 THE POINT GOD & All of a sudden you THINK you dont need a POINT GUARD
So isn’t having a more physical, motivated, good passer, shoot 3’s, box out/set screen center “ suppose to be the answer? Since the last center got blamed for everything wrong pretty much.
Does Nurk not have any expectations or pressure to perform?
We blew out this same team to set up this match up… what changed? All I see is a team that wants it more in the Wolves.
PG, Bol Bol or Vogel is a scapegoat cause you don’t want to blame the big 4
If they use KD as a screener they will just switch that action, which will switch a better defender onto KD.
I saw this coming 2 years ago when the suns traded their core for Kevin Durant then shipped Ayton out. Ayton finished the season on an absolute tear and the twins proved in Brooklyn why they were great ROLE PLAYERS as opposed to leading guys. We did it all for Booker and he will soon leave the suns high and dry. It’s gonna be a long ugly rebuild. Rather than contend for 10 years and hopefully break through one or two of those years we took the “super team” route with OLD washed up stars as if CP3 didn’t show us what becomes of old star players. Suns fans got what they deserved- Booker is not a #1 for a championship team. He ain’t got it 🤷🏾♂️
Love it! For now... I still wish u win and play against Denver in second round 😘
There ain't nothing surprises me at this point,we knew all along that this team won't make it past the 1st round,I mean sadly!
I am a Wolves fan, but I truly loved the Suns with when it was Nash and Amare. That usually holds over and I still would like them, but Booker is really really hard to like. He makes contact too often that would be called an offensive foul at the start of this season. Its push off after push off. Our guys are big and physical naturally. Booker is trying to react to our physicality by being physical back, and it just looks like a kid having a tantrum. I do like Durant because Durant is good at Basketball.
Its pretty simple to me. We hired a "Defensive" Head Coach and swapped a elite Defensive PG for Beal.
SORRY SUNS.... TAKE THOSE REGULAR SEASON WINS.... WE'LL TAKE THE PLAYOFFS!! GO WOLVES
Suns taught they had the t-wolves number.😂😂. Now they look like punks.
@@Sol_ozy'all not gonna beat Denver anyways
I wonder how big of a loser irl you have to be to post this lol
Minnesota ain’t going nowhere either be real. We all know from watching the suns all year they’re not legit. But for you Minnesota idiotic fans thinking you’re gonna get out of the western finals is delusional
Forget about making adjustments exploiting this exploiting that against the wolves, why? this team is so undisciplined, badly coached that they can’t even not turn over the ball like crazy running stuff they were familiar with, how do you expect them to execute some newly generated gameplans they were not familiar with? This team is not functioning as an unit, that’s why they look uninterested, because they know this thing ain’t working, they have no idea what they are supposed to do on court, how can suns fans have confidence in them when they don’t even believe in themselves? Their body language and expressions said it all.
The biggest change the Suns had is that they learned they are living a pipe dream and are finished.
Same story as last year when they got obliterated by Nuggets in the losses and barely would eek out a win. The only reason they won against Clippers was because PG and Kawhi didn’t play. Suns are overrated
Book doesn't have the will to win. Vogel isn't a good coach James Jones didn't put together a good team. That's it
Bottom line phx is being outcoached outplayed and overpowered. That's what it comes down to.
You need to find a way to deal with mcdaniels and Gobert on defense. If Booker can’t score and you can’t get to the rim you won’t win games against the Timberwolves.
It’s either turnovers or rebounding. Why can’t this team SECURE THE BALL!
If we being serious, kd book and Beal aren’t serious about winning because if they were they would take pay cut to help with the roster situation. Kd and book Beal thought the can win by their offense alone but you kinda need other around you to play defense and be a threat. You ain’t gonna get that or a chip without taking a pay cut so those 3 are absolutely not at all about winning
I wonder if this team is better with cp bridges ayton and book than kd book Beal and nurk
To me this series is over, They need a miracle to pull it off. I don't see adjustments for game 3 Vogel shouldn't have been Sun's head coach. That's a bad look for all these especially Booker, KD and Beal. They just play iso basketball and they don't run any offense. It's such a shame!
2025 season dream scenario:
JJ Redick doesn’t go to Charlotte and takes the head coach job in PHX.
Vogel is probably getting fired no matter how far we make it into the playoffs. Absolutely will after a 1st round exit.
No ball movement. It moved in 2nd period and Suns looked ok.
3rd period defence collapsed totally.
As a Wolves fan, yeah the series isn’t over, you guys get to show what you got on home…but man Booker ain’t that dude, sorry
From watching KAT and Dlo run the show from my early Wolves year I know what fake talk looks like. Now I would say Booker is significantly BETTER than those 2 listed (Booker went on a Finals run lol).
Anyways, u guys for not leadership, depth, or size. Sorry, but goodluck! Jaden McDaniels does this to many guys
Bahaha, who would've thought.... installing a defensive minded coach with zero playable defensive players, no proper pg a centre who doesn't fit what they need. 3 star players who all do the same thing would work 😂😂
Suns need a strong point guard
The Vally will show you why its called The Vally 😮
Bol Bol and Okogie needs to play. Bench O’Neil. He isn’t doing anything
We suck
this team plays with no heart and its so hard to watch
As much as the suns offense has looked clunky, their defense might be worse
Hang in there suns fans... they're going to figure it out...don't lose faith
Naw
Suns fans didn’t appreciate CP3 enough. He’s been the way better Sun than KD it’s not even close. Those Suns teams had leadership, toughness and grit. This Suns team lacks leadership, mental stamina, intestinal fortitude and are soft and lazy which embodies Durant as a player. The second it gets difficult he puts his head down and pouts. Durant has to go along with the front office and coaching staff.
wtf was cp3 this season? where was he last season against nuggets. you are hyping a guy up that cannot help them win bc he is always hurt and inconsistent.
@@2cents250they not talking about cp this year they talking about what he did when he first got here versus what kd has done …not even close cp got them to the finals in his first year KD has them nowhere near that
Why does this franchise keep doing this to it's fans....guess our best chance for ring was Barkley days...this current team isn't it.
Stfu all iso ball no defense and turnovers
Didn’t the suns fans say they were going to win a chip. And said they were better than okc. Lucky you didn’t run into okc they would smoked that pack all day. Lakers was probably thinking the same thing. They ran away from okc they knew they get embarrassed. Cancun time for yall. Time to trade everyone fire sale and full rebuild.
Keep telling KD won 2 💍 not because of 30 it’s because of DrayGod.
Coach has to change and roster needs change next season more defensive minded.
We shouldn’t have blew this team up for KD!!! Or anyone after him
Bridges and CJ aren't killing it in Brooklyn... Issue is lack of a pg
@@mrhoopfan1 that’s only one issue sir
@@otibee-g9z So tell me how they'd be better with the twins and still no Pg
@@mrhoopfan1 technically we ended up getting a PG in Thomas , I’m really speaking on mikal…cam was replaceable. Everyone else sucks besides the big 3 and Grayson….but the big 3 dont even play well together. 🗑️ 😡
Brendon, man, We need you to get in there and just take Vogels clip board, and chalk board, and show the team how someone with actual intelligence is all were missing.... SMART LEADER
Suns have a bunch of number 2s. Being a number 1 is not just about being the best “scorer”. KD is great, but his best years are with a Westbrook or Curry. Somebody who can dictate the game. They bend it so that KD can break it.
he played very well with harden. he is 7 foot. he shouldn’t be a playmaker and primary ball handler.
@@2cents250 Harden is a number 1 as well. A number 1 does not have to be the best scorer it just means the offensive gameplan should be set up by them or around them. Telling KD to be the best scorer and elite initiator is unfair.
There is no answer for turnovers. They will get blown out all the time .
Why not switch Booker and KD in pnr get McDaniels on KD
Mavs fan, you were a much better team 🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞 2 years ago when u felt u had to dismantle the team afterward.
Fire Frank Vogel. This coach is garbage the big 3 is exhausted and Frank ran the other dude until he literally broke is ankles... There are quality guys on the bench getting 0 playing time while Book, Beal and Durant run on empty!!!
they protected home court, their role players played well, not hard to understand.
Not like Phoenix has raucous crowd and a major home advantage
@@mrhoopfan1 you don't think role players play better at home? if you were to guess if Minnesota was better at home or on the road what would you say?
@@wesgarnett119 They beat Suns solidly without Ant Man scoring much and KAT straddled with early fouls...that is concerning.
@@wesgarnett119 only the Celtics and the Pelicans had better road records in the regular season than Minnesota. Defence travels
@@jamespratt7526 were they better at home or on the road? simple question.
jalen Bronson Is beter then kd buker n Bradley together omg
We need to have honest devin booker conversations, we the difference between him and luka is one is a man one is a boy. He needs to fix up and man up. He sounds delusional now after games. He's 27 and hasn't done anything significant in a long while
He is weak and soft why he scared when it comes physical game
We want it more then you. That’s it🤷🏻♂️ wolves in 4
Need play bol
LOL GO MAVS 😂
I wanna to know if people like Sun's Geek still think Suns in 5? The Wolves were battling for the one spot, while Phoenix was bailed out by the Lakers winning against the Pels, which gave the Suns the sixth spot.
Is Time Frank Vogel have to go no one talk about Frank Vogel whay on mu opinión hi Is the problem n Durant vill n buker want for he to get desapoin
Booker soft and Durant terrible leader
Book overrated and Beal blows
And that's a wrap - Suns showed us who they were all season. This is who they are. Not good.
Talk about your boyfriend booker getting bent over by McDaniels all series
🤣🤣KD and the Booger man bout to get SWEPT!!🤣🤣🤣 Luka Magic at work again! We already getting the BROOMS READY for some work! Time to sweep up all the TRASH off the court and get ready for ANOTHER REBUILD! What a JOKE the PHX Losers are now and will always be after not drafting the Great Luka when they had a chance!! Thanks, from Dallas! Go Mavs!!
jalen Bronson Is beter then kd buker n Bradley together omg