themahonster With my 74 lbs kayak and additional 50 lbs of gear on the kayak, I have not noticed any damage to the scupper holes when I’m carting everything around but I also wasn’t specifically looking for it either. I’ll have to take a closer look at the scupper holes that I usually use for the cart to see any damage. If I notice any irregularities with those scupper holes I’ll let you know
I took a closer look at the scupper holes that I usually use for the cart and I did not see any indications of collapsing or damage to the scupper holes.
Hobie reinforces their scupper holes so that scupper hole carts can safely be used. I'm unaware of any other manufacturers that do so. Use this cart at your own risk. The risk is that the joint between the top half of the kayak and the bottom (the joint runs right through the middle of the scupper holes) will eventually crack and start to leak. May not happen right away but there's a reason manufacturers warn against this type of cart.
I have not tried a kayak cart that has air filled tires. I have used a dolly with air filled tires and a dolly that uses hard rubber wheels similar to my kayak cart. The dolly with air filled tires roll better over rougher terrain as long as the tires were inflated to the correct pressure. With the tires on my kayak cart, I have gotten hung up on some larger rocks where I had to pull with more effort to get the cart and kayak over that rock. Using this cart on packed sand was fine. I have not tried using this cart with loose sand at a beach. Hopefully that helps 👍
@@pa1264 Downside to hobie is they like to put a insane markup on every little accessory. They charge like 250 for what is effectively about 50 cents worth of aluminum tubing and some inflatable tires. And with the PA you also gotta be extra careful because its got a bit more weight to it over a typical 120.
The geometry of using this as a standalone trolley for carrying nothing is problematic, but it could be modified for that purpose fairly easily. I would recommend fashioning a kayak-shaped piece of lightweight rotomolded plastic to attach to the trolley, which would act as kind of a chassis for your nothing vehicle.
No video I have seen so far shows taking it off. It works great but having to tip your kayak over to take it off is inconvenient. The pillars really sick in my scupper holes, and so you can’t just lift it off. You can try lifting it up and banging the tops of the pillars, but that is pretty awkward too.
Thats smart. never seen them be used like that in the drain
I have the same kayak trolley awesome puncture free and adjustable to fit any kayak😁
I agree. The trolley has been great!
I was all set on the scupper cart design but was reading its not good to have the weight on the scupper 🤷♂️
themahonster With my 74 lbs kayak and additional 50 lbs of gear on the kayak, I have not noticed any damage to the scupper holes when I’m carting everything around but I also wasn’t specifically looking for it either. I’ll have to take a closer look at the scupper holes that I usually use for the cart to see any damage. If I notice any irregularities with those scupper holes I’ll let you know
I took a closer look at the scupper holes that I usually use for the cart and I did not see any indications of collapsing or damage to the scupper holes.
@@MarkDouglasOutside Thanks man! I appreciate the feedback 👍
Hobie reinforces their scupper holes so that scupper hole carts can safely be used. I'm unaware of any other manufacturers that do so. Use this cart at your own risk. The risk is that the joint between the top half of the kayak and the bottom (the joint runs right through the middle of the scupper holes) will eventually crack and start to leak. May not happen right away but there's a reason manufacturers warn against this type of cart.
Thanks for the warning, Mike! I was not aware of the damage this type of kayak carrier could cause to the kayaks
how are those wheels compared to the ones with Air filled tires rolling over bumpy areas
I have not tried a kayak cart that has air filled tires. I have used a dolly with air filled tires and a dolly that uses hard rubber wheels similar to my kayak cart. The dolly with air filled tires roll better over rougher terrain as long as the tires were inflated to the correct pressure. With the tires on my kayak cart, I have gotten hung up on some larger rocks where I had to pull with more effort to get the cart and kayak over that rock. Using this cart on packed sand was fine. I have not tried using this cart with loose sand at a beach. Hopefully that helps 👍
I try that on my PA12 the wheels rub up underneath the kayak😁
That’s a bummer. Hopefully you were able to find a cart that works with your kayak
@@MarkDouglasOutside yes I have to bite the bullet and buy a hobie one😁
@@pa1264 Downside to hobie is they like to put a insane markup on every little accessory. They charge like 250 for what is effectively about 50 cents worth of aluminum tubing and some inflatable tires. And with the PA you also gotta be extra careful because its got a bit more weight to it over a typical 120.
@@nikushim6665 yes very true now those wheels are made in China
Will this still work if I don’t have a kayak?
The geometry of using this as a standalone trolley for carrying nothing is problematic, but it could be modified for that purpose fairly easily. I would recommend fashioning a kayak-shaped piece of lightweight rotomolded plastic to attach to the trolley, which would act as kind of a chassis for your nothing vehicle.
No video I have seen so far shows taking it off. It works great but having to tip your kayak over to take it off is inconvenient. The pillars really sick in my scupper holes, and so you can’t just lift it off. You can try lifting it up and banging the tops of the pillars, but that is pretty awkward too.
Yeah, pretty much have to take everything off the kayak to put it on or take off the kayak. It can be a hassle at times
You just attach a strap to it and hold the carrier down with your foot then lift the kayak