I am shocked that they didn't kiss after she WAS JUST IN A GIANT LIFE THREATENING FIGHT. Like, why didn't he kiss her?!! It was also the first time that Mike saw her after she was brought to the desert, after their fight, that was so purposeful directorially to have them not kiss, how could it not be?!!!
REAL. ive been thinking about this since i saw it and why they would blur will out. like because in the scene with rockie we’re supposed to be paying attention to robin and whatever SHE is looking at and paying attention to is blurred. cause thats not our focus, its hers. because the emotions we’re supposed to pay attention to are Hers. and so when i saw the mike will and el scene i was confused as to why they would blur will but its BECAUSE even though hes center we’re supposed to be looking at mike and el… and how the focus of mike/el’s attention is what’s blurred… will. and it is slightly different than the rockie scene just because i think while it does show a very heartwarming emotional reunion between el and mike, in the same way its been done throughout the season: it shows us that on some level … mike is ALWAYS noticing and paying attention to will. and thats his focus, not ours. ive ranted now but … tldr I Agree. I Strongly Agree.
i have more to add here but i said the blurring means hes mikes focus bc we were talking abt byler but he is also els focus at this moment. like i think were shown mike and el and we see that they are both subconsciously noticing will at this moment and thats proven to us when el turns around and sees will and doesnt even spare mike a second glance before heading over to will bc shes SO RELIEVED TO SEE HIM AND WILL IS SO RELIEVED TO SEE HER AND RHEYRE SO HAPPY TO SEE EACH OTHER AND ITS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL EMOTIONAL REUNION. just had to add this
Wow, Your analyzes give me a daily dose of life!!! Recently I watched "Goldfinch "with Finn Wolfhard. I also saw some similarities in some of the scenes with Boris and Theo to the scenes with Mike and Will in season 3 and 4. I sincerely hope that the similarities I noticed there are not accidental, and herald the longed-for kiss of Mike and Will. Especially since Noah Shnapp would almost play in this movie. ;(((
You mean acting similarities? Yes, Finn plays “in love with his best friend” a lot so it’s easier to read his facial expressions in scenes with Will cause it’s basically the same.
I've been watching all of these videos, and I fully hated Mike after my initial watch of st4, but now, I feel the opposite. I told two friends about this epiphany, and one friend refused to feel any empathy for Mike, and the other was team byler from the start without any evidence. You know what's funny, though? The one who refused to believe reminds me of Mike. They're bi and used to have a lot of internalized homophobia, and I might just have had a crush on them since we've been 9. The other is aro/ace and reminds me more of a bunny on cocaine. It's easier for the person who has no experience with this to accept it, as everything is easy for her to understand from the perspective of the window. For the skeptical and I, we have been directly in those shoes. We live in these shoes every day. I feel huge empathy for anyone in my situation because I tend to be empathetic to myself, but they are extremely critical of everything that reminds them of myself. Thank you for these videos.
It's absolutely insane that I never thought Mike liked Will. I thought in the last season that he felt that Will liked him and that that's why he was so Awkward. But that makes no Sense because he never had An issue with that before. And it's not like Will only then started liking Mike. It's much more logical that he acts that way because he feels like that's what he should feel for Eleven, but he doesn't... He feels it for Will. But I do also have the habit of treating tv charachters as I treat People irl. Like how it took me a while to fully embrace Will Being gay because I'm so used to not assuming anything about People. Unless they Tell you, no matter how obvious it may seem, you never know what's going on in their head. You never know what someone's feeling unless they Tell you. Especially because I don't enjoy People assuming my sexuality. But I also don't enjoy Being asked about it. I like the ambiguity. I don't mind not knowing what label I'd give myself, so I don't want anyone else to assume anything about me either. I just do whatever I want. A label feels restrictive, Idk everything about myself so it feels weird to put myself into a box. So I don't want to do that with anyone else either.
That’s a respectful approach! The thing is with fiction it’s a little different than IRL. In real life you shouldn’t assume because you probably don’t know. In fiction, things like this are purposeful. They’re hints at not just things like what is is going on with characters but also major plot points. Fiction is created to be analyzed and detailed. Real life is a little different. But I agree with you in real life we shouldn’t assume.
But this a fictional character and there are clues put there on purpose by the writers for the viewer to find out. The term queer-coding exists for a reason, after all.
Me: i promise i will study for midterms, i won't even think about Mike and Will. Two seconds later: Me: **finds this channel** Me: oh sh*t, here we go again!
thank you so much for your mike analyses. tbh they help me realize how much i really empathized/sympathized and related to him. it’s so easy to just take mike’s character at base level and dislike/hate him but he’s sm deeper and traumatized than many rly realize.
they filmed the van scene inside a studio so yeah the lighting used on Will was intentional and it's how Mike sees Will, they used artificial lighting in the cabin scene too btw
I'm amazed by the amounts of details there are to the point where I honestly can't excuse it to be accidents. I mean, I sometimes write a bit and put little things in there, like the names of specific characters, but holy hell this is a lot.
@@lesbianmindflayer exactly, one of my favourite gay movies is les amitiés particulières and I really want my character to mirror some key scenes in that story.
It´s kinda sad the fact that the Duffer Brothers are probably never being brave enough to actually create something more than a friendship between Mike and Will
@@MicukoFelton Yeah but those guys can't even kill a main character in this show, i really doubt they'd had the courage (if my english sucks is because i'm brazilian)
If I watch season 5 and Mike doesn’t love Will back, I am going to be upset with all these videos analyzing his body language and facial expressions. I just went through this type of scenario and I can’t watch it play out the same way as it did for me.
Steve doesn’t have a canon sexuality yet. So I didn’t feel comfortable saying he’s straight or whatever because we *don’t* know. But he is definitely not a lesbian so that’s how I phrased it to be mindful of that.
THE BOY REFLECTION OMG?? never noticed
I KNEW IT! I thought I was being delusional for noticing those "boy" shadows in the van and how obvious the lighting is in that scene 😭😭
A lot of people noticed don’t worry
I am shocked that they didn't kiss after she WAS JUST IN A GIANT LIFE THREATENING FIGHT. Like, why didn't he kiss her?!! It was also the first time that Mike saw her after she was brought to the desert, after their fight, that was so purposeful directorially to have them not kiss, how could it not be?!!!
5:21 HIS WILL VOICE AWWW
This is the video that convinced me that Mike loves Will back
watch 101 reasons why to love Mike and will, and you will be more convinced
REAL. ive been thinking about this since i saw it and why they would blur will out. like because in the scene with rockie we’re supposed to be paying attention to robin and whatever SHE is looking at and paying attention to is blurred. cause thats not our focus, its hers. because the emotions we’re supposed to pay attention to are Hers. and so when i saw the mike will and el scene i was confused as to why they would blur will but its BECAUSE even though hes center we’re supposed to be looking at mike and el… and how the focus of mike/el’s attention is what’s blurred… will. and it is slightly different than the rockie scene just because i think while it does show a very heartwarming emotional reunion between el and mike, in the same way its been done throughout the season: it shows us that on some level … mike is ALWAYS noticing and paying attention to will. and thats his focus, not ours. ive ranted now but … tldr I Agree. I Strongly Agree.
i have more to add here but i said the blurring means hes mikes focus bc we were talking abt byler but he is also els focus at this moment. like i think were shown mike and el and we see that they are both subconsciously noticing will at this moment and thats proven to us when el turns around and sees will and doesnt even spare mike a second glance before heading over to will bc shes SO RELIEVED TO SEE HIM AND WILL IS SO RELIEVED TO SEE HER AND RHEYRE SO HAPPY TO SEE EACH OTHER AND ITS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL EMOTIONAL REUNION. just had to add this
OMFG EXACTLY
just like in the roller rink!!
Wow, Your analyzes give me a daily dose of life!!! Recently I watched "Goldfinch "with Finn Wolfhard. I also saw some similarities in some of the scenes with Boris and Theo to the scenes with Mike and Will in season 3 and 4. I sincerely hope that the similarities I noticed there are not accidental, and herald the longed-for kiss of Mike and Will. Especially since Noah Shnapp would almost play in this movie. ;(((
You mean acting similarities? Yes, Finn plays “in love with his best friend” a lot so it’s easier to read his facial expressions in scenes with Will cause it’s basically the same.
@@lesbianmindflayer No, I mean the similarity of some scenes ;)
i was on the fence about byler for a while, but this has officially convinced me.
I've been watching all of these videos, and I fully hated Mike after my initial watch of st4, but now, I feel the opposite. I told two friends about this epiphany, and one friend refused to feel any empathy for Mike, and the other was team byler from the start without any evidence. You know what's funny, though? The one who refused to believe reminds me of Mike. They're bi and used to have a lot of internalized homophobia, and I might just have had a crush on them since we've been 9. The other is aro/ace and reminds me more of a bunny on cocaine. It's easier for the person who has no experience with this to accept it, as everything is easy for her to understand from the perspective of the window. For the skeptical and I, we have been directly in those shoes. We live in these shoes every day. I feel huge empathy for anyone in my situation because I tend to be empathetic to myself, but they are extremely critical of everything that reminds them of myself.
Thank you for these videos.
Bunny on cocaine~ so poetic
Am I a bunny on cocaine? We aces have it easy? DIDNT KNOW!! (sarcasm.)
It's absolutely insane that I never thought Mike liked Will. I thought in the last season that he felt that Will liked him and that that's why he was so Awkward. But that makes no Sense because he never had An issue with that before. And it's not like Will only then started liking Mike.
It's much more logical that he acts that way because he feels like that's what he should feel for Eleven, but he doesn't... He feels it for Will.
But I do also have the habit of treating tv charachters as I treat People irl. Like how it took me a while to fully embrace Will Being gay because I'm so used to not assuming anything about People. Unless they Tell you, no matter how obvious it may seem, you never know what's going on in their head. You never know what someone's feeling unless they Tell you.
Especially because I don't enjoy People assuming my sexuality. But I also don't enjoy Being asked about it. I like the ambiguity. I don't mind not knowing what label I'd give myself, so I don't want anyone else to assume anything about me either. I just do whatever I want. A label feels restrictive, Idk everything about myself so it feels weird to put myself into a box.
So I don't want to do that with anyone else either.
That’s a respectful approach! The thing is with fiction it’s a little different than IRL. In real life you shouldn’t assume because you probably don’t know. In fiction, things like this are purposeful. They’re hints at not just things like what is is going on with characters but also major plot points. Fiction is created to be analyzed and detailed. Real life is a little different. But I agree with you in real life we shouldn’t assume.
But this a fictional character and there are clues put there on purpose by the writers for the viewer to find out. The term queer-coding exists for a reason, after all.
I ain’t readin all that
THE RANTING SCENE IS SPOT ON
Me: i promise i will study for midterms, i won't even think about Mike and Will.
Two seconds later:
Me: **finds this channel**
Me: oh sh*t, here we go again!
Your videos should be required watching for this fandom!
that’s so kind of you to say thank you! 🥺💜
I agree!!!😍
thank you so much for your mike analyses. tbh they help me realize how much i really empathized/sympathized and related to him. it’s so easy to just take mike’s character at base level and dislike/hate him but he’s sm deeper and traumatized than many rly realize.
I just want Mike and Will to end up together and have their happy deserved ending
I just love the rambling parallel so much 😭💛💙
they filmed the van scene inside a studio so yeah the lighting used on Will was intentional and it's how Mike sees Will, they used artificial lighting in the cabin scene too btw
THE VICKIE AND MIKE RAMBLING PARALLEL ALMOST MATCHES UP PERFECTLY!?!? BYLER ENDGAME BYLER ENDGAME BYLER ENDGAME THIS CONVINCES ME
BYLER ENDGAME!!!
I love Byler and Rockie!
3:59 we could also say that the shirt vickie wears is similar to el's dress in season 1, if this somehow helps..
also, I love your videos!!!!!!
does anyone else kind of like randomly stops hearing audio
Muted section by TH-cam
@@lesbianmindflayer thats sad i love your videos i did still enjoy it anyways
yea
Same
the parallels are insane!! it really feels like they’re hinting towards byler so i’d be pretty disappointed if mileven’s the endgame
These analyzes are deep af but I love them
ALSO THE TRIANGLESSS
Ok- this is a really good analysis on these scenes, you did an awesome job!
you've made some of the best analyses I've seen, and they're really easy to digest too! thanks so much for doing what u do
OH MY GOD THIS CHANGRS EVERYTHIIINGGG
thanks for making this video, i completely forgot that the reunion scene and the rovickie scene were in the same episode, that is mad
Even the shadows know 😭😭
The shadows are on the byler side 😭
I'm amazed by the amounts of details there are to the point where I honestly can't excuse it to be accidents. I mean, I sometimes write a bit and put little things in there, like the names of specific characters, but holy hell this is a lot.
There’s so much! Plus when you add in the films officially referenced you find even MORE parallels. It’s wild!
@@lesbianmindflayer exactly, one of my favourite gay movies is les amitiés particulières and I really want my character to mirror some key scenes in that story.
It´s kinda sad the fact that the Duffer Brothers are probably never being brave enough to actually create something more than a friendship between Mike and Will
They're building Byler up, it'd be weird if they don't get together.
@@MicukoFelton Yeah but those guys can't even kill a main character in this show, i really doubt they'd had the courage (if my english sucks is because i'm brazilian)
They were brave enough to make Robin a lesbian so
You’ve got a talent for this!
If I watch season 5 and Mike doesn’t love Will back, I am going to be upset with all these videos analyzing his body language and facial expressions. I just went through this type of scenario and I can’t watch it play out the same way as it did for me.
Hi this video has made me actually insane WHAT. I am CONVINCED Byler is endgame
Man how can you see those details
Wow i didn't even notice the parallel scenes on my first watch. It seems so obvious now OwO
is it just me or did the audio keep cutting off??
TH-cam copyright issues you can watch it without that on TikTok
Audio keeps cutting. 😢
i love watching these
Cant wait for the next season to see more byler
can we have a moment for [steve is not a lesbian] 4:32
7.48 AT THE END IT WAS BOTH SORRY WAHT
Wooo
The scenes are quite similar.
awhh i really love your analysis ive totally not been watching all ur videos no......
I'm n ot sure if this was just me but the audio kept cutting out
Omg I agree
You did not just reveal that Steve isn’t a lesbian 😭 show ruined
Steve doesn’t have a canon sexuality yet. So I didn’t feel comfortable saying he’s straight or whatever because we *don’t* know. But he is definitely not a lesbian so that’s how I phrased it to be mindful of that.
@@lesbianmindflayerI think he is bi but I am not sure
But the actor of steve he in real life is bisexual so yeah
@@ItsKadelynjoe keery isn't bisexua😭🫣
@@justpeachybaby5929 but why did i saw one video where joe keery is saying im bisexual