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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ต.ค. 2024
- I entered the FlyQuest Fight Series 25 and had a pretty good run...up until the end when I faced an Ed. I talked a bit about why zoners in general feel a bit unfair to fight in Street Fighter 6.
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Someone gotta get Idom off this game
Low forward drive rush will
Why? He's doing okay
Use Manon in sf6, get ready to be frustrated all the time. You can be the most solid grounded 5mp checks. But one slip will cost the match.
iDom’s opponents when Poison comes to sf6
Idom, do you hate your job?
Fighting games by their nature teach bad habits because the game doesn't force the habits, the players do. Even if something is inherently deemed as 'bad' 99% of the games out there aren't going to punish you for it (save stuff like Negative Penalty in GG), so if someone is putting a bad habit into play *and it's working* well who's fault is it really, the opponent not punishing them for it or the game for 'allowing' such behavior?
Habits in FGs are pretty weird honestly, like for every SF game doing AA DP on reaction is great, but in SF3 you can get parried if that's the only way you react to jumps.
Buffer into dRush kind of has no downsides tho, on hit it's great and on block it's good, as long as you did it with over 3 bars you're safe.
The game objectively has better and worse options bruh Ur motivated to do shit by how useful it is based on the games mechanics..
Ed in particular is a stall heavy character, flicker charge is literally a pace breaker, it’s weird to me that the character has so many special cancellable normals because the dude can literally out poke you while cornered and DR to safety
Back then low forward usually lead to a fireball or a unsafe special unless it was a wiff punish now it leads to full damage combos into specials because of drive rush cancel
3:01 street fighter 6 ahh round
Ive been learning Manon and I see why you get frustrated with this game 😂
I feel like they shouldn't allow for buttons to be buffered into drive rush. just like how they dont allow it for lights bc the reward vs risk is so high
It would be peak if when you drive rush buffer a whiffed button that the game trips you up and leaks you open for 2 frames.
I don't get it either, if you make it so button xx DR just comes out every time, then players HAVE to stop mindlessly doing it. Because the cast is pretty unique as it stands but until you force them to do something other than cr MK xx DR you'll never see what makes them different
@@onthedrethat would be useless, how could you punish a 2 frame "stun" if they're far enough to whiff?
Why does it look like legend and master ranked players give each other soooo much opportunities and miss so many opportunities, but like when you play lower ranked players, you can never really parry without being grabbed after the first few hits... like here they allow each other to parry 😂😂😂
Yeah i guess anti-air parry would be a bad habit in a game that doesn't have it, you're right there.
Mediums buffed into DR should function just like lights buffered into DR
as a DJ main this would be a huge nerf considering his 2MP is less range than 5LK. disproportional nerf
I would apply that just to 2Lk.
@@PressureCooker69DJ is cheap as fuck I would not wear that character with pride. And I'm Jamaican.
@@onthedre let me guess, you're more of a low forward drive rush kind of guy. you should be proud of your big brain with those moves. lol sounds like you just got hit with sway low (which only combos on CH or PC)
Yall are sf players, yall only play character's because they are good anyways
Yeah this game is one of few that promoted just not thinking because it is truly on the opponent to stop the mindless shannenigas but sadly its hard to stop them from doing because the reward for doing vastly out weighs the punishment. No offense to Noah the prodigy but his luke is a perfect example of just pure offense no thought. They stop my drive rush? Cool imma do it again. Didn't work wake up DI. No go? Time for more drive rush? Oh it hit? Bet let me proceed to take 60% off you and why'll im at your now in the corner and one touch from death.
I see it the other way around. The game punishes overthinking and hesitation more than any other SF before it. Really what’s changed is speed of thought and quantity of options you have at your disposal.
Hard disagree. Stopping a DR nets 2k damage at least with every character into knockdown. Wake up DI can be punished for 6k dmg straight up. If your opponent is "mindlessly" doing anything, you can punish it hard.
@@orhunguder4485 Yeah I wouldn’t say mindlessly doing anything is effective at all. I also think people are mistaken when saying certain players are mindless sometimes. idom is an example of a player that will complain “oh this is mindless” but if there is a legitimate intention and reason, then that is not mindless at all. Noah is example of a player that seems to be mindless by some people’s standards but in reality he understands that in this game the best defense is offense. There is intentions behind what he does when you look at it as a spectator he has clear patterns of what he likes to do. That is not mindless.
SKILL ISSUE!!!
😂😂😂😂
Buff Kimberly
If ppl in these comments played manon they would understand
But everybody is used to there crutch characters so there not used to working harder then the other player
Hence why idom is a legend player and low forward zombies stuck in plat
Tbh, its easy to climb in this game. Low forward zombies are above plat, lets be honest here.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming not wrong at all since the game allows for low forward zombies to excel in 1 strat into insta win
Most top players arent nearly as good as a manon or gief player
They all are the same character with different skins
Clicks on video due to title, fights a random Ryu and complains as usual. Niiice.
I mean, you could've not clicked. Crazy concept right ?
Is it really true what that one guy in chat said, that low level players in Japan try to win by time out? That doesn't seem right but if it is, it explains a lot about how these games are designed now.
I was thinking 💭 the same thing. Over aggressive attacking, mashing buttons. Jumping way too much. DI needs to be slowed down just a tad or make so two hit is enough to break it. DR is abused way too much. Moonwalking is annoying. And parry is meh, it’s not annoying until it is. Besides these complaints the game is awesome 🤩. Love ❤️ the internet 🛜 connection, online training is awesome 😎, and the coming replay training coming with Terry 😚 definitely 💯 great.
Frame traps. Is the answer.. . You gotta the right idea combo them out . But zoners have the ability to create space "whiff punish" in so many ways . Zoning is lost art. I'm not talking about spamming "fireball or booms " in sf6. They also have pp (perfect party) drive impact now. It's very very frustrating.!!
But I think frame traps is the right answer to zoners.. you gotta know what to do and how to force it !!. Guessing it's not needed, in this aspect of understanding.
Low forward DR is the biggest bad habit from this game. A lot of people don't realize how hard carried they are by that button, until you punish it twice and they notice they have zero offense.
“Terry is just going to do the street fighter 6” pretty much reflects how I feel about sf6 and any future characters at this point. I’m glad people are enjoying the game, I just don’t find it very fun in its current state.
I think all of us that aren't playing a meta-shoto or Gief, we are not having as much fun.
@@riczz4641I have faith when SF6 arcade edition comes out and overhauls the mechanics. That's going to be like season 4 or 5 tho so it's a long time to wait
Honestly if they just added Focus attack in exchange for drive rush as an alternate playstyle into the game I would like it a ton more. I like the mind game and will he won't he of the focus attack. Footsies is cool but it's really not fighting and more of just data analysis which is cringe since you're playing a fighting game and not chess.
Terry gonna come out in a broken state downplay is gonna start “you don’t know the matchup” “lab” despite you having to buy the character to lab prob will be top tier I guarantee like every dlc character in this game.
I think it's fun but it's very rock paper scissors at a certain point. It makes me sad we'll never see a street fighter like Street fighter 4 again where execution was important and there were so many different play styles for each character. This entire game is just drive rush, throw loop, meaty, shimmy.
He's only complaining because of how it affects Manon
Hey iDom, what's your opinion about this one, i feel like they need to make empty DR 2 bars instead of 1.
They gonna make terry crazy for them sells
One of the many bad habits is not developing and maintaining a solid neutral game. Drive rush circumvents that aspect of the game.
Everytime I play or watch sf6 I think and people bitched and moaned about mkx run features 😂😂
remove the added safeness on block for drc normals
ed also get step forward DI like jamie,blanka where if it was gief or ryu who DI they will not wall splat but those 2 will wallsplat(
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Drive gauge completely disappeared lmao. No DRC or OD used. Crazy.
he blocked 400 heavy attacks, id expect his meter to be drained.
Make it so if you perfect parry on wakeup, you're still in block stun, but you can choose to mash to do super fast speedy drive reversal
wahoo another 20 minute video of you just complaining!
Un sub if u don't want to hear complain
In SF3 hit confirming was a super high skill required to play at high level. Now you can just buffer and if it hits you get a combo and if block you get a mixup. An example how the games have been toned down to help new players. Why does it matter. Because the hit confirm was extremely high level and was super skillful and exciting to see. Taking that away takes away excitement from the product. No different then if they took away 3 pointer for basketball. Skill is exciting to see!
I really miss hit confirming stuff, even in SFV it actually made a huge difference if you could hitconfirm your pokes.
Like there's something really awesome to being able to have very oppressive neutral not because you had meter to dump, but because your confirms were nice, that added a lot of personality to how people played.
@@nickkiller-0710 they dont care about that, they want everyone to beat everyone because they feel if everyone can win, everyone will keep playing
Right. They want kids beating the pros@@Commonsens8
Shoutouts to Brian_MtF lmao
Sorry iDom Terry is gonna be another low forward DR buffer shoto, because we need more 😂
Also Ed just feels like shit I feel like he should need to commit to something with Flicker / Fireball because it feels so lame, hold parry and lose 1-2 bars, 236PP in and they back step without committing and you lost the 50/50 and now they get a free PC, it’s whack some of these mechanics. Any decent Ed just makes that MU so frustrating because you can barely interact with them.
Idom: "I hate perfect parry. I hate drive rush. I hate graplers. I hate zoners. Please watch my content." Hey DSP, your LTG is showing.
The games bad and you're bootlicking
Y'all mad cause Shotos are OP asf they all need a nerf, having zoner abilities with no nerf to strike throw game is toxic asf.
Shotos get SHLOPPED up in sf6, especially that goofy ahss bum named Ken
Saying Ryu has to be nerfed is wild to me
@@dragonic22 Just because Ryu didn't win a tournament does not mean he's bad. He has Zangief damage while also being able to zone you.
Sf6 is unforgiving
Inag
This game is ass but it’s so much fun
You are the vivid image of someone that didnt adapt to the next game, stop playing Manom or you will lose your prime years loosing, will be to late after
Please get rid of aggressive intro at the start of a video. It's so annoying.
Game is trash 🗑️ everyone is good. The ones who can actually hit confirm are the outliers…the rest of us are just mashing buttons
My guy, people may enjoy hearing you complain about the game on twitch, but no one enjoys sitting through a 20 minute TH-cam hearing the same tired complaints.
You don't have to be here
Lol I'm not saying you're wrong, but he's not wrong for his complaints as a Manon player it makes sense.
I have no idea who you are but man you sure love to complain... You remind me of LTG/DSP.