What I find funny is that the entire reason Margit is at Stormveil Castle is because he's making sure no tarnished can become Elden Lord and he does so by crushing their ambitions right at the start of their journey. So if you think about it, anyone who stopped playing the game because Margit was too difficult simply wasn't fit to be Elden Lord and Margit did his job well.
I was so afraid of the bosses from all the hype I heard that I basically just grinded until level 40 then I faced Margit for the first time. I destroyed him.
This is definitely true, additionally I think it’s implied that he does not trust Godrick in particular to be able to handle the tarnished; which is why it makes sense for him to come beforehand and be harder
Pretty much 100% agree with the list. Though I'd put Margit at S. His difficulty is meant to push unprepared players to explore more before taking on the challenge and I think he's pretty successful in that regard.
@@soulsborne8292 elden beast elden star sucked like super hard sucked it was a bad move dealt very little damage for how intensive the animation took but lasts so long the bastard can have 5 other moves off and it’ll still be unavoidable tic damaging you
00:28 Renalla, Queen of the Full Moon 02:00 Godrick the Grafted 02:50 Commander Niall 04:02 Loretta, Knight of the Heligtree 05:25 Red Wolf of Radagon 06:26 Godskin Apostle (skinny) 08:35 Elemer of the Briar 09:23 Rykard, Lord of Blasphemy 10:29 Fire Giant 11:46 Valiant Gargoyles 12:21 Mimic Tear 13:01 Godskin Noble (fat boy) 14:33 Godfrey, First Elden Lord/Hoarah Loux 15:28 Crucible Knight and Misbegotten Warrior 16:47 Margit, the Fell Omen 18:16 Radahn 19:32 Lichdragon Fortissax 21:00 Dragonlord Placidusax 21:50 Morgott, The Omen King 22:39 Mohg, Lord of Blood 23:58 Maliketh, the Black Blade 25:42 Fia's Champions 26:43 Radagon of the Golden Order & Elden Beast 28:04 Godskin Duo 29:02 Malenia, Blade of Miquella 31:35 Regal Ancestor Spirit 32:23 Magma Wyrm Makar 34:16 Leonine Misbegotten 35:54 Flying Dragon Agheel 36:31 Sir Gideon-Ofnir, the All-Knowing 37:14 Astel, Naturalborn of the Void 38:10 Dragonkin Soldier 38:36 Full-Grown Fallingstar Beast
Radahn/Rykard are just an amazing spectacle, Maleketh is super challenging, Margit/Morgot is just so cool because of the cool variety of all his attacks.
Whenever I see Malenia all I can think of is how damn cool this fight would be in Sekiro, just imagine parrying her entire waterfowl. I know fromsoft was testing the grounds with this boss and that's why it's optional, but it's still brutal.
She is amazing in every way design, lore and attacks but then we get to waterfowl dance which is such a dumb move. She would be a perfect sekiro boss, your players moveset just doesn't compliment her at all.
Yeah, this boss straight up doesn't work in Elden Ring. This is such a Sekiro boss that once you get to her, you can just respec to a Sekiro build with Katanas and destroy her.
@@Akechifan I can see how that attack is strong against other builds. I found her to be 3nd hardest boss of Elden Ring. I personally am bad at 2v1 fights, so there were these two knights (one wizard other used sword and shield), I died sh*t ton of time more to them than Malenia. Same thing happened with that dude that eats deathroot (my fav fight). Would say the first Elden Lord was also harder for me, I figured it was a boss you had to jump a lot. You know that attack where you start dancing with the twinblade (the blood one), that attack helped me get out of the waterflow. I also was able to quickstep from waterfolw. I also was able to use summon bell that argo the waterfowl. I am a filthy casual, just saying I found her to be a damn fun fight while not punishing at all. Might just be some builds are way weaker against her.
When it comes to Dragonkin, there is one version that is absolutely A Tier, and that is the Dragonkin of Nokstella. Once the second phase kicks in, and he sprouts them wings and start going God of Thunder on you, that's when he goes all the way to A Tier for sure. Fun and epic as hell fight. Unless you're overleveled and thrash it before it's able to transition, then whatever I guess...
Completely agree, it sucks that most people lump it in with the others as a "re-skin" boss. In a game like DS3 where there were 19 bosses at launch it wouldve been much more memorable, but lots of people just forget it cause its an earlier optional boss in a game with over 100 bosses.
Margit and Morgott are definitely S tier. Margit is my favorite in the entire game. He actuallly has ways to punish him, his moveset and animations are freaking amazing quality. The unforgettable lines, his lore, his gate keeping low level players. The music. EVERYTHING about Margit is just amazing. Morgott is the same, but shows you how far you have come, and his moveset is even cooler, although much easier by this point in the game.
I disliked almost everything after Morgott and Morgott. Not a fan of all the moves with slowed down animations and auto tracking moves. This is my first Souls game and I beat it three times for all achievements but the latter parts of the game aren't for me and because of that I'm unsure if I will get another Souls game again. I too used to MH combat by comparison. I did think of checking out DS3 if/when it goes on sale though but I'm not sure.
@@nuke2099 MH is my fav series and imo it has a lot of similarities with souls games. But nothing elden ring or any other souls game has can ever compare to the Fatalis fight in MHW.
The reveal with Margit actually being not just a child of Marika but one of two Omen Twins born of her is phenomenal. Especially since despite being born outside the Grace of the Erdtree, he chose willingly to uphold the Order that would have seen him persecuted. There's a self-loathing and depreciation that runs so deep that he is reluctant to use his own cursed powers because he sees his own existence as a living heresy.
@Dio-xo9rv I distinctly remember the game calling Morgott Godfrey's son somewhere, but the fact that Godfrey is mourning him in his intro is all the proofs you really need.
@Dio-xo9rv Well Morgott is noted as being a demigod, and therefore of divine lineage (I mean we know he wasn't granted demigodhood afterwards, because he's an omen). Obviously he's not Godfrey's father or brother. So why would Godfrey, who was absent during the Shattering, recognize/mourn a distant relative who, as an omen, was shunned and hidden from society for most of his life, even as he became Lord of Leyndell?
@@darukan She also has a three-hit jumping combo when the weapon turns blue along with the two hit one...I think the first fight only has the two hit one.
Godrick is my favorite. S tier for me. He does it all. - Melee with multiple arms - Shockwaves you can jump over - Super mobile, can roll around like a madman - Jumps into the air - Gets a flamethrower that can also grab you - Throws wind/fire ranged attacks - Soundtrack is super hype - Lord of all that is golden - BEAR WITNESS!
Yep. Godrick is S tier and one of the best. > bad ass arena > one of the best soundtracks, easely in top 3 best tracks > fun boss fight > great 2nd phase > fair > you cant reach him overleveled
The only thing I would say I’m confused about is why Loretta is so low, but Godskin Duo is as high as C. It’s reused moves, a gank fight placed together when they don’t work well, have reading capabilities with their range attacks and don’t die even when you kill both at the same time. IMO, I’d say Godskin Duo is the same level as Loretta if not worse.
yeah i highly agree, i wouldnt put loretta lower than valiant gargoyals or godskin duo. I think those are poor duo fights and they don't even play off of eachother because both enimes are very competant without each other
def agree, while yea it is a reused boss and isnt difficult (at that point at least) it was still a fun one. godkin duo just seems cheap as especially with the revive and ur just stuck running away for half the fight.
Now that we are on "post nut clarity" after we finished the game I realize a thing about Malenia: The problem with her Waterfowl is how hard was to understand how to dodge it. I swear I was on my 100th attempt and still couldn't understand how to dodge it properly. On the other hand people need to see beyond this. Malenia is the experimental boss of the Elden Ring. FromSoftware went overboard with her (lifesteal on attack, insane tracking on Waterfowl Dance) to test the waters, that's why she's optional.
but for me she is the best boss in the elden ring, some people might hate her i do understand that, but once u learn her mechanics to how to deal with the waterflow dance melee solo build, it feel like as though as you dance along with her, i really love it, maybe it was just me, idk, idc want people say about her
There’s methods to dodge that attack, in my case i used bloodhound step but it’s definitely possible to dodge normally, it’s just that the way you have to dodge is very odd
Both versions of Margit should have been in S in my opinion.The first time you fight him he does destroy you but his move set is ridiculously good it makes him fun to fight.And the final time you fight him his move set is even better but it also shows you how far you come since you are now the one destroying him.
Like Asmon said, as a fight itself it's definitely S tier but it's sidelined by the fact that it's a filter boss that is too hard until you've geared up.
@@bmbm1 He's hard for a good reason, because once a player is done with him they're skilled enough for the rest of the game. Which is why vordt of the boreal valley sucked, it was easier than tibia mariner.
@@bmbm1 Which is a terrible reason to put it at A. The whole point of him as a boss is to push you to explore the open world. Not quit the game and it worked. Asmon seems to think a lot of people quit the game despite it being one of the most popular games on steam of all time and having an extremely high completion percentage according to steam achievements.
2:35 lore-wise, margit is supposed to be harder than godrick. margit is there to prevent godrick from grafting your tarnished to himself, as he would become stronger than margit if that happens
Margit just fucking hates all tarnished and shardbearers. He always rides out to murder other tarnished, so I believe he is there simply to eliminate another fool who will tear the world apart to become a lord.
Elden Beast wasn’t even that hard for me, he was just annoying with how far away he moved. That fight should have allowed you to ride on Torrent. It seems like it was made for it and it would have been a good final moment with him. Instead as a melee user you hit Elden Beast once and then watch him swim like a mile away, run after him, and then watch him swim away again. Shit final boss with a really cool design.
@Kermit with an AK Naw I know I’m not alone in this. I’ve definitely seen tons of videos where sometimes he moved around a ton and is just annoying, and sometimes he doesn’t. It’s similar to how sometimes Malenia will use water fowl dance a ton and during one time I fought her I think she used it once ever.
@Kermit with an AK Torrent doesn't always trivialize or cheese fights though. Quite a few of them felt more like they were intended to be fought with torrent, and some where Torrent was available were much easier on foot. I imagine that's also build dependent as well
@Kermit with an AK lol you probably cheesed the fight and killed him quickly with over leveled weapons since you didn’t experience that. I spent like 4 hours beating Radagon/Elden Beast and he swam away so many times. Like I said the fight isn’t difficult it’s just the many things that could annoy you or frustrate you that depletes health.
The buildup and anticipation for Radahn is on the level of Artorias... A legendary warrior that succumbed to a dark power (Humanity/Rot) and is now only a shadow of his former self, but still super powerful. So yes, SSS all the way.
Its literally not lmao, artorias was a duel, 1 vs 1 against a corrupted injuried legend, the ENTIRE game resolves around him and the other knights, not only do you skip the entire fortress to radahn, but the fight is literally just a giant clusterfuck
@@SwaggerHarrystlyesminecrafter the fight might not be as memorable to you, but you can't deny that having a lot of background on Radahn being the strongest Demigod, who literally has a festival on his honor to put him to rest, built that anticipation to fight him. Not to mention even some of your NPC allies also fight along with you... Narratively it's just great.
@@zambrano8512 well i know for a fact for most people the fight was just „wtf is this? What are we celebrating? Who is this?“ i mean just think about sifs hidden cutscene when you kill artorias before going to him
Leonine the Misbegotton is what really got me into the game. Finally understanding the mechanics and feeling like you have taken down a very powerful foe without cheese really got me into this game. Will remain at the top of my list for a hot minute
@@TheSuicune7 Same. Got my ass beat so many times I decided no real bosses for a while, just wander around and kill stuff. Maybe even a few of those side dungeons. Although Leonine was tough, he never felt that out of reach like Margit was feeling. Went back over-leveled at some point and it was a breeze then lol. I'm glad I got that accomplishment and didn't just put the game down
@@billbarthel5224 it felt real good when I crushed the one before Rahadan that had a Crucible Knight backing him up. I could tell I got way better at the game
I pretty much beelined to stormville. I actually didn't discover Weeping Peninsula until I went around exploring missed areas close to end game, and I two hit Leonine 😅
I feel like the Elden Beast wasn't tested enough. Given how much it moves around, I feel like it was a boss fight designed with Torrent's usage in mind. The fact that the option isn't available to players feels like a major flaw. Malenia and Maliketh feel like Sekiro bosses in terms of design. I believe they would've made fantastic bosses in that game as well.
Elden Beast was one of the worse boss fights in the game and would have been demoted to a C for me. It was tedious and mostly boring. Radagon on the other hand should have been ranked as A-S tier on his own.
I feel like maliketh just has one too many aoe’s. If it happens after like three hits then whatever, but if he’s gonna leap off the pillars, shoot magic at me then land with a double whirlwind spin, then yeah, i’d like to get a good punish on that
@@oACDCo Yeah I enjoyed Elden Beast. It was like it had attack and defense mini-phases. You spend periods of time dodging really cool attacks, and then rush him down to get some damage in. Also, the sound effect of hitting the Elden Beast is my favorite sound in the game. Shattering a god, one hit at a time
There are loads of other great gank fights across from games though? It isn’t like O&S is the only good gank fight. In my opinion, they aren’t even the best. And Ornstein is buggy as hell, people avoid this but everyone knows it’s true. Some of his attacks are straight up broken. And not in a balancing way.
As a player that never played FromSoftware game before Elden Ring, Margit was so fucking cool! The voice actor nailed the job and the famous "Put these foolish ambitions to rest" after each death, and there were a lot of deaths for me, really made me thinking if this game is made for me
Mohg is absolutely S-tier. The "his slow attacks are a gimmick" is absolutely ridiculous. If you got hit, it's because you panic rolled. Spreading his blood fire around the area makes you have to fight even harder to stay close to him, and it does a great job of applying pressure to you for the sake of intensity. Super frustrating fight, but it drives adrenaline.
I agree with the first part , not so much the second , having bloodflame on the floor everywhere was just annoying , would have preferred him to have more moves but less blood throw spam .
@@cringeylazy Again they could have done something else to make me less greedy when fighting him , I dislike shit on the ground , I didn't like the valiant gargoyles spiting poison either , I also was not fan of Godfrey's constant stomping on the ground either , not my cup of tea . As far as the blood and the lore goes I am pretty sure the blood he throws at you is his own blood . The blood of the Outer God - The Formless Mother that you mention is only used when he uses the trident and does the NIHIL attack when he stabs the air with it 3 times and damages your health directly .
@@saula8948 I completely respect how others don’t like the bloodflame, but I personally like it. It forces you to get close to the boss and actually learn his attacks. It also forces you to pay attention to your surroundings, and jump over or roll over it. You can’t compare mohg to the joke of the valiant gargoyles. You know the bloodflame is being spread. You could be attacking one gargoyle and the other starts shitting his poison out of your vision. Again, some might not like having to toughly diverse an arena, but I personally do enjoy it. I do wish the arena was a bit bigger though. It would make this dispute, well, not a dispute.
give it a couple NG+ power ups lol. I think every boss people complain about as being too easy will show their true nature when all enemy health and damage generalizes in NG+ games and you dont have to worry about overleveling.
@@CreativeName7895 Quite a few bosses are a lot more aggressive than him in this game, he actually does give you a bit of time to breathe more than a few others if you think about it
imo it might've been cooler if i never fought margit but all of those in S tier, malenia, and renalla i prefered. still a good fight but definitely not close to the besr fromsoft has made
I also played mage and found Rennalla to be pretty easy once you figured out her gimmicks. Definitely not that hard to take down with magery, was not using glintstone spells - maybe those in particular don't work well?
Yeah I fought her as a mage on my first playthrough and I didn't even notice she had high magic resistance because I just spammed rock sling the entire time.
U can roll into most of her attack apart from the first one too. The hardest part for me was the summons. U just have to get them and her in front of u which is hard when she summons the wolves
100% agreed with Asmon on the confusion on why some large boss fights went back to the issues fromsoft used to have with huge fights where your just looking at feet e.t.c. Midir already fixed the issue but bosses like fire giant prevent you from seeing the spectacle or what is going on and ur just hacking his legs
How did Midir fix this "issue" (which I think is a complete non-issue)? Fire Giant is like 2x as big, it's a poor comparison, as Midir's height isn't anywhere close to as big as Fire Giant.
@@psykomyko730 If anyone deserves credit for "fixing" the issue its Amygdala since the arms and head were its only genuine weakpoints and the legs did next to nothing. You can beat Midir hiding under them, it's tedious and long, but its doable. Hell I would even pass more credit unto the Dragonkin soldiers since you had to go around them as opposed to under them to spank their rear. That damn belt of theirs XD
He's S tier for sure. S tier bosses are: Maliketh, Radahn, Regal Ancestor Spirit, Mohg, Morgott, Godskin Apostle (especially the Caelid one) Rykard, Placidusax, and then Godfrey in that order for me.
Morgott is such a good boss it makes me glad my build was so bad while i was fighting him, cause i was doing no damage and the fight went on WAYYY longer than it should’ve but it was so much fun i didn’t even mind
@@PyroCham Yes, you are right. But you will fight this two in the future so my point is the same. Edit: I contstucted bad the phrase because English is my 3rd language, but you get what I wanted to say. XD
@@Lumigle You said that "the skinny one" can still attack you. Which is not true. Godskin noble is just one boss. So how can "the skinny one" still attack you, if it's a single boss? :) As I said, you are referring to the Godskin duo fight. Which is them both together. The OP was talking about the godskin noble, so that makes your initial comment irrelevant and untrue. Maybe you will understand it now. :)
I think Mogh is the 2nd best boss fight only behind Radahn, despite his attack is often delayed it's still feel fair in my opinion, it's such a fun fight and it feel really good fighting him. Every other things like the music, arena, lore etc are at it best in the entire game.
46:36 The Draconic Tree Sentinel has a fire breath horse and lightning strike abilities so I wouldn't say that he has the same move set as the normal Tree Sentinel cause the Tree Sentinel has none of that and neither has Loretta. Loretta also has a lot of magic abilities like the bow or her staff for instance which the others don't have at all. Of course you fight these "bosses" at least twice each, though. 45:11 A part of their move sets might be reused but they still have unique moves which makes them feel different enough for me to not just say that they are a plain copy of each other.
Why are people so defensive over Loretta? She is a tree sentinel with 4 added magic attacks. Draconic Tree Sentinel is a Tree Sentinel with 3 extra attacks. He's not comparing them thematically or how they look, go look up their moveset. 90% similarity between the three
you legit fight her twice once in the manor and then in the hailgtree add that with the same moves as the other sentinels and you see why its a low tier fight
for context I beat tree sentinel in 10 tries and I beat draconic tree sentinel in 150, his 2nd form where he can oneshot you with everything really changes things
Yea Godrick is the least "cool" character in the story, he's literally born to be the weakest of his lineage and had to resort to the disgusting act of grafting to make himself stronger.
I had duel Katanas and the skill that let's you jump into the air for a counter and he spammed it against me lol he was so hard the 2ed time I faced him
being a mage, the thematics and epicness of the setting really differentiated / made fights memorable for me, renala one is definitely my favourite boss mechanics don't matter to elden ring mages
It is too easy, though. Every other boss you're fighting is WAY more powerful than you, so then when you fight something that's exactly as powerful as you, it feels like a joke. It's a shame, because I think the concept of the fight was extremely cool.
Thing with mimic is that because it's your build, you know where the weaknesses are. Also, the AI doesn't seem to know how to use the character as effectively.
@@Crytica. people saying it’s easy, but if you didn’t use that strat and cheese, you’d get smacked around by it. I’m on my 4th ng+ with a strength build and it literally one shots me with one heavy lmfao and I have 75 vig
It's kinda funny that Loretta is E because she is a "reskin" of an other boss, but the red wolf of Radagon is B. A boss wich is repeated like 5-6 times. At least Loretta got some extra melee and magic moves to her moveset.
The only downside with Loretta isn't that she's a reskin, it's that she's a reskin met at the end of the game. Radagon is repeated many times, but your first encounter with him is likely the boss itself. So Loretta loses because she's overused before you even fight her. While Radagon at least is new when you fight him. At least that's my understanding of Asmons ranking.
@@yes78 Yeah, but the issue with horseback fights is that there isn't a huge difference between them for the most part since they reuse the bulk of their movesets. Different bosses have slightly different gimmicks like the draconian horse boss spitting fire and the tree Knight horse boss having a magic reflect shield. But the movements, and various attacks are generally the same. So when you fight enough midnight rider bosses, tree Knight bosses, and the easy version of Loretta, you've pretty much fought the lot of them at a basic level. Because of this you might end up feeling like she's just a reskin with an extra move or two.
@@yes78 Yeah, once in the carian manor and then in Haligtree. I'm not saying she az an amazing boss, but the reason used by asmon why she is in E tier is certainly funny after looking that B tier magic sif.
@@Edanite Well, I don't think that was the thought process behind his ranking, because the lich dragon is also a reskin of the dragon from altus plateu just with death blight effects.
Mohg, maliketh, morgott, godfrey,radahn, My top 5 best boss fights and characters in elden ring, all because of the lore, design, badass, lines and fights. I love them
Imo Morgott is the best boss in the game so far. His moveset is crazy and fast but completely fair. His animations and designs are sick. His voice actor is superb. His OST is AMAZING, you guys should really give it a try and his lore is great. The opening cutscene is probably one of the best and most badass boss intro in Soulsborne. My only complaint is that he has too little health. Like this is one of those boss that I wish it just won't end because it's so fun and engaging. Hell you even have Melina which is like the most unique npc summon in Elden Ring.
Problem is that he has such low health you dont even need to learn his mechanics, he should have had more health or generally higher stats cause leyndell was a really hard area but regardless of amy build i go fight him with hes always a pushover
Respect for giving props to cinematic gimmick fights. Rykard is my favorite variation of the storm ruler boss type seen in DeS and DS3. And it's undeniable the unique experience that the Festival of War brings for Radahn.
I love the fact that margit was so hard. he teaches you that you're supposed to go out and explore and level up before progressing. tree sentinel does that as well.
Fire Giant suffered from that too(What EB did). I think what Asmon mentioned with only seeing the feet and ankles also added to my dislike of it since a ranged person could take in the whole of the giant. I kind of wish Elden Beast was a secret boss like Moon Presence was as Radagon/Marika felt like the obstacle to overcome since pretty much every active person/faction wanted to either overthrow them or replace them. Minus The Golden Order under Margott of course.
100% I put them in A because it was conjoined. Radagon, fun and challenging. Elden Beast runs for dear life while throwing cheap incantations, albeit a cool fight
I think that annoying beast is worth it because of the spectacle. If it wouldn´t run away you would just look at it body the whole fight not seeing any moves it does.
Radagon is S. For me it was a super punishing fight but fair when you learned it. Elden beast is absolute trash d/e tier. As my first souls game it was absolutely anti climatic fight and just overall annoying. The only thing I enjoy about it was the transition and the music. And then a fucking gooey dinosaur pops outta the muck.
My favorite boss was malenia , It felt like swordman vs swordman fight and I love that kind of fight. For me me trying to bait out her waterfowl dance and try to predict what she's gonna do felt like brain game and I really loved it.
bad take, too easy and she is just a bitch bitching about being undefeated but all there is just a lover's pox cos she's a whore to the whole of the lands between
I was stuck on rykard for 3h because at that time I didn’t know how important vigor was So I had around 25 and almost every attack oneshot me. I knew I had to respec but I decided to be stubborn and actually memorised his whole attack pattern to the point that when I killed him he hit me only twice. Absolutely amazing fight.
@@Blastoisebo122 I just beat him that way. Just stack on cerulean tears and use the skill. Wait one second before using it again so it uses the same that stunlocks
Margit and Morgott are definetly in my top 5. Morgott fight had crazy moveset, cinematography, thrilling music that makes you play on the edge of your seat AND it sometimes even fits his moveset. (Unlike Placidusax music which is 90% lame with only like 10 intense seconds.) I mean, this entire idea of a rugged old man, with horns, a scorpion tail, hardened skin, fighting with a large stick, all these signs make you feel like he is some decadent hobo. But he speaks with such authority while literally conceiving weapons OF GOLDEN LIGHT from thin air, which disappear asa he uses them makes you feel like you're fighting someone you really should fear and respect. This huge contrast in itself leaves you completely clueless about who the hell he is, adding a huge element of mystery WHICH makes him even more intimidating :D Morgott has depth to character, lore and to top those off, outstanding voiceacting. He also combines a variety of really rich literary archetypes. The king coating himself as a beggar and travelling the country, bringing justice for example. He also has strong king Oidipus vibes, a king forced to live with his curse and the great shame it brings to him, forcing him to roam (which also strengthens all this "gold covered by torn robes" vibe). Not to mention how his authority as king is not accepted by others, giving G. Martin's Stannis vibes. He's the official "Git good" fight of the game, similar to what Pontiff was functioning as (to me) in ds3. Its like a word joke sometimes, as by the time you meet him again you GOT good (Margit --> MorGOTT) All in all, I understand that he is an A as a boss, and I can partly see Asmon's point there, but as a character he'll always be one of, if not the most iconic character of Elden Ring to me. Thanks if you read it through, I just felt like I needed to somehow give way to all the thoughts and feelings this character stirred in me, hence the long comment.
He does look like a hobo despite being the King of Leyndell XD I remember saying "Did frickin Highsparrow from Game of Thrones come back from the dead, just to spank me in Elden Ring?"
I was so confused when i fought him in Leyndell, I was like didn't I already beat you twice ? Then he said his name was Morgot not Margit and I was like oh his twin brother then people said nope its the same person you just fight him 3 times.
@@Dungpie64 Omens are the physical manifestations of strong premonitions. They were hated because they brought Ill fortune and were hunted or condemned to the Subterranean Shunning Grounds. This is why you fight Mohg there too, he was a Royalborn Omen like Morgott. Their ability to manifest is displayed by the Fell Twins who guard the path to the Divine Tower for Morgott and Mohg. Morgott ends up being badass because he has two pure manifestations of his Ill Omen fight you before you face him. Mohg has the potential to be encountered in phase 1 form, until you fight him in the Dynasty Mausoleum.
I just wish Morgott had more health. Leyndell is more challenging than the boss at the end. Kinda disappointing. If you level enough to push through Leyndell, you’ll be overleveled for Morgott
I guess I like a lot of the bosses more than most people, but my list would be Beastman-C Niall-A Black Blade kindred-A Demi human Queen-C Dragonlord Placidusax-S Kindred of Rot-D Demihuman chief-B Dragonkin Soldier of Nokstella-A Fell Twins-D Dragonkin Soldier(lake of rot)-B Elemer of the Briar-A Fia's champion-B Night's Cavalry-B Astel(both)-S Godrick-S Cleanest knight-missed, but A tier enemy Divine Bridge Golem-B Decaying Ekzykes-B Black Knife Assassin (Atlus)-C Remenant- missed, but F tier enemy O'Niel-B Litchdragon Fortissax-S Crystalian-C Godfrey(near end)-A Godskin Apostle-S Godskin Noble-A Scion-C Aductor Virgins- missed but A tier enemy Wormface-C Bloodhound Knight-B Rennala-S Patches-B (fight itself is C) Cemetery shade-C Scaly Misbegotten-C Radahn-S Loretta (both)-A Valient Gargoyles-A Mad Pumpkin Head-C Mimic Tear-A (easy, but the moment was cool) Erdtree Burial watchdog (Sword)-C Erdtree Burial watchdog (Staff)-F Borealis-A Ancestor Spirit(both)-A Morgott-S Bols-C Bell Bearing Hunter-A Crucible Knight-A Gideon Ofnir-A Perfumer-C Both Falling star Beasts-B Godskin Duo-S Elden Beast-S (dont like the attack that follow you for a minute) Margit-A Soldier of Godrick-D Tree Sentinel-A Draconic Tree Sentinel-A Miranda-D Grave Warden Dualist-C Glintstone Dragon-A Mogh(basement)-B Mogh Lord of Blood-S Alabaster Lord-B Zamor-A Magma Wyrm-A Black Knife Ringleader-F Malenia-S (Waterfowl dance is kinda dumb up close) Erdtree Avatar-B Leonine Misbegotten-B Lion Guardian-B Nox Duo-B OmenKiller-C Radagon-S Onyx Lord-B Esgar-B Tree Spirit-B Red Wolf of Radagon-A Battlemage-C Rykard-S Spirit caller snail-A Runebear-F Stonedigger troll-C Tibia Mariner-C for early fights B for Giant Skeleton variant Agheel-S (had a really awesome fight) Fire Giant-A Adan-B Maliketh-S
I don't care where he puts loretta, but saying she's a copy of the tree sentinels and draconic it's objectively stupid. Besides the magic casting, her halberd has many other move variations + jumps. He just doesn;t know her moves that well because he finished it too fast and he is stubborn to admit when he is wrong.
@@Thatguypat how? I can kill most bosses easily in 8 hits in ds3 with sellsword twinblades and good stats not overleveld some buffs on me and it’s a joke so some people choose to trivialize the game own fault
@@JDisclmd If you can kill bosses that quickly without going really far out of your way then they're too squishy Unfortunately, ever boss in lategame Elden Ring is way too squishy because there's no scaling, so if you commit to doing as much of the game as you can you'll just end up being 80 levels higher than everything in the endgame without doing any grinding
@@Thatguypat i did everything I could in elden ring and I was level 90 when I reached morgot and I didn’t do 2k damage I did like 500 with the moonveil +9
Personally i hate it because its not very rewarding to fight. Ive seen a lot of shit from even speedrunners where the safest thing is to use the pillar as like with smough in ds1 but often will just infinite roll and make it impossible to hit as a melee. Also if u do dodge it just keeps going to where ive had it roll 5 times in a row which is very much not fun. On top of that his rapier like weapon is incredibly fast and does a lot of dmg
The way you experience each boss has so much to do with how leveled you were for them, asmon wouldve loved alot of the low tier bosses if he wasnt overleveled.
My personal top 5 is Morgott, Malekith, Radahn, Placidusax and Radagon. Margit was originally 1st until I encountered Morgott. I think he is ridiculously hard for the early game, but i think that was absolutely the intention to stone wall the player. I think he was meant to make the player think "hmm, this guys kinda hard, maybe I should go and explore and see if I can get stronger for him.
Loretta is so much fun idc, idk why, it’s just extremely fun to dodge her attacks for me. Yea it’s easy, but I just think it’s so much fun to fight her.
@@napsec9807 Tree sentinel for me was kinda mid, but Loretta not having a massive shield and instead preferring to use magic was a real treat for me. She shares about 2 moves with the tree sentinel and every other attack is original to her, which makes the comparison asmongold said incorrect imo, if you want a true re-skin look at the dragonic version that only has 2 unique attacks. Whereas Loretta only shares a couple animations with the tree sentinel.
Exactly! Mohg has earned my number 1 spot. I co-op there so much and I rarely find the fight dull. So many ways to cheese with different builds, yet the boss is still incredibly hard and his stage 2 is even more insane. The delayed, yet quick lunges. Bloodboon explosions. Miquella. NIHIL! Sheesh. it's top 3 at the least..
@@mum-your You see.. If he was a boss on his own with a full health bar, I would have to consider that because he's kicked my ass way too much too, and his moveset is byfar the coolest of all the bosses.
@@benjamincorbett I'd say World & its sequel Iceborne (400-ish hours of content). They are the most accessible games and have a huge amount of quality of life changes/fixes for a less tedious experience. Also, since they're newer, the combat in general is a lot more fluid & less clunky than previous titles. Monster Hunter Rise is also a decent choice, since it's the newest game, but it was made for the Switch (now on PC too) and isn't as graphically appealing as World & Iceborne...
I personally would put Niall at S tier. Mainly because I'm a sucker for storm-callers, but also because I just think he's so badass and intimidating. (I was probably just underleveled)
See I really enjoyed the O'Neil + Niall fights, I loved the atmosphere and OST, and the battle cry they give when buffing their troops, it just feels really tight I personally enjoyed O'Neil's fight more, because I thought it played really well on horseback
I think if you talk about Melania's fight, the other moves she has are pretty consistently hard. Once I learned how to deal with water fowl consistently, it still took me awhile to beat her. The clone attacks, quick combos, scarlet rot in phase 2, and the 2 or 3 grabs she has. She takes awhile to master. I will say waterfowl is absolutely the biggest hurdle, but once you get past that there's still a lot of challenge there in my opinion.
I think the godskin apostle depends on where and when you encounter him. If you encounter him at the bottom of the tower in Caelid, he’s tough, but if you encounter him at the windmill area he’s quite a bit easier.
The reason Margit is an S tier fight is because of how hard he is and the fact he makes people quit. This is not coming from an elitist place either. It's because thematically that's exactly what he is attempting to do. He is trying to squash "the fires of ambition" before they get too strong. He is Morgott showing up early in "disguise" to eliminate ambitious Tarnished from getting their first chance at a Great Rune. I think it's brilliant.
He is also extremely easily beaten by grabbing a few levels in vigor and getting a couple extra pots early. Which teaches you this fact about the rest of the game.
He's not trying to get people to quit. What a ridiculous way to put it. FromSoft want people to experience their games. It was a lesson that newer players may need to go explore the world more fully and level up further progressing, which is true of the rest of the game as well.
@@jdubb982 no he still hard I've finished the game and still think margit is one of the hardest bosses in the games for how rude and hard It is that early in the game
@@faresktari8977 he is an optionnal boss and you can even fight him at level 150 ..... he is easy even if his moveset is hard to understand for beginner
Unreal the loretta analysis. It’s an upgraded version of the caria manor fight. You can’t just range her down and have to carefully dodge her 3 hit slash or the blue blade combo Nothing like any of the tree sentinel fights at all Loretta at Haligtree in fairness and as far as player timing feeling rewarding is S tier right next to Godfrey
“If you build your character a certain way, and then there’s a boss that completely stone walls you…” every pyromancer in DS3 vs Soul of Cinder knows what I’m talking about 🙌🏼😩
Kinda dumb that he places Renala super low because of this and then proceeds to put Radagon in S while having like 97% Holy immunity... Completely ruined my Jesus run which was my first playthrough
Godskin noble was a great duel in the church. Volcano Manor was a cool area and when you kill the snake men just to approach this massive warrior with bizarre attacks was so cool
“Fia’s champions” is the weirdest and most random inclusion on the list, why does that even have a rank lol. Also wish elden beast and Radagon were separated, I’d say Radagon is an easy S tier but elden beast is A or B carried only by how cool it is
The loretta disrespect is insane. Honestly a Low A tier or high B tier fight for me. I think she is really fun to fight, beautfiul, and drops amazing weapons and armor. She has good lore too but just not enough relevance in the story to bring her up higher.
I personally would disagree with loretta as it was one of the first bosses I really struggled with(the ghost version) so it is a really memorable fight for me. I did things in a kinda roundabout way and did caria manor right after godrick before even knowing how to get into the academy. There I also encountered the red wolf as a normal enemy before the boss so that would bump it down a bit for me.
Personally I think it would be cooler to have you fight godric before margit, partly because if you killed godric it would make sense for margit/morgot to hunt you down as you have become a threat, like the idea he didn't have time for you before because you weren't dangerous or a threat, but after killing godric must be dealt with. I just think it would feal cooler and make more sense.
I’m glad asmon loved Misbegotten warrior as much as I did. I love the music that he shares with Oneill and Niall, and Especially the one at castle Morne, his arena is so cool. And the crucible knights are one of the best mini bosses in the game. I also loved Gideon, but I just wish he had much more health in his fight. Also morgott would’ve been an S tier for me, lore music and design are all amazing, only issue with morgott is honestly that he should’ve been a bit harder for where he was at in the game. Also what he said about malenia is true, no matter how many times a “git gud” dark souls “veteran” shows me that single strategy to outrun that attack, I won’t care. Waterfowl dance is the single hardest part of her fight because to avoid it correctly you have to be watching for it throughout the entire fight because if she does it while you’re recovering from an attack then you’re dead. It makes the fight not as FUN as it could be. However malenia’s lore and the thematics and cinematic s of her fight are S tier. Design too. Booba. Another edit: I personally loved the mimic tear fight. Especially how it will copy some of your attack patterns, for example, on my 3rd run of the game, I used 2 buffs before the fight and the mimic used those exact two buffs in the same order, and it used jumping atttacks and Marika’s hammer’s weapon art like I like to a lot.
Yea gideon could have been really cool but for an end game boss is just too squishy. The misbegotten was a fun fight but it just feels out of place in all its places. Lore wise its shit and thematic wise its shit. Mechanically great fight in particular for the early game.
@@chriscavallo1006 I agree about misbegotten feeling out of place in most places, but I think the one at castle morne feels good. The misbegotten were the servants that rebelled against Edgar and took over the castle, so I think it’s fine that the warrior is the boss of that area since he seems to be the “leader”. And I’m glad someone agrees about Gideon.
I'd 100% put Morgott as S tier. I love his lore, love his voice and his fighting, not too hard but still challenging, fire abilities. And Malenia (still haven't defeated her) is also S imo, for her lore, her difficulty and how she is so not an Elden Ring boss. Her fighting looks so much like Sekiro. Also, fuck Commander Niall. I hate him with all my guts. Him and his double sworded knight. Hate them. So fucking much.
@@Dungpie64 then she will be too easy because everyone will have ash that have multi spirits to stagger her for day without worrying about her healing back
Malenia is an E tier. Along with all the other RNG bosses. Did the boss roll the kill attack this time? Guess you lose. Rinse repeat until she doesn't do the move and you kill her.
Honestly, Morgott is just way too easy and the fight is mostly ruined because of it. Yes, his moveset and the presentation of the fight are top tier, but he deals too little damage and has way too little health. I beat him easily first try without summons, even while intentionally gimping my character and build because the bosses pre-mountaintops were just too damn weak. Such a letdown since his moveset was Margit (who is an S tier fight imo) but better, but you don't even get to properly fight him because he dies too quickly and deals too little dmg.
I'm glad he made the distinction that a hard fight isn't necessarily a good fight. Anybody can make a hard fight, it's easy. But making a challenging fight that's FUN is what's really impressive.
For me Rykard was the best one, awesome in everything and if for some reason you don't notice that you need to use the special weapon your going to have an extremely hard time. The second best one was Radagon. That Radagon intro with the signature Elden Ring music and his pose was epic as f$%^ and he is just a hard and sturdy hitter.
with the “the boss got reused so its bad” argument, i mean say the godskins or tree sents and all those there are meant to be alot of them as they are actual factions and they are a prt of those so even lore wise it would make sense that there are many of them
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I agree on that one. Those were right because of the lore. Some bosses... Damn, I was pissed when I met another Astel in a cave. Because it was such a unique, amazing looking boss then... another one of that? Why? I felt the same with Red Wolf of Radagon, but I could think of them as a specie at least. So some reuses makes perfect sense, some just felt lazy.
It's wild to me how many people love the fire giant. To me it was a miserable experience of looking at feet and getting smashed in by his plate. With a massive fucking health pool it's just a slog
Was pretty painful for me given I used a fire greatsword against him. However it was +9 and figuring out how to stay on his left ankle for the first phase, and hide behind him on his second phase made the fight very easy.
I like how diverse these boss' opinions are. I, for example, since I took my time and did some good ol' farming, every single "big" boss died on 1st try. Crucible Knight gave me the most problems so far. Margit, Gordick, Rennala, Red Wolf, Misbegotten, ... all of them bit the dust in under few seconds.
My opinions on Malenia is I think it’s a very high S, I don’t say this because it’s hard, I say it because I loved learning the attacks and it felt so satisfying once I killed her unlike other endgame bosses. Like waterfowl dance, I could not wrap my head around dodging that attack close range (I didn’t use bloodhound step), farther away was easy, but closer was a nightmare, but once I finally learned how to, it became really satisfying whenever I pulled it off. And another thing was that no matter how much I died, I never genuinely got mad unlike some other people.
You said learning the attackS, but its really just about learning Waterfowl for the most part. Thats whats garbage about it. I felt basically nothing when beating her.
For me as someone who's no-hit her a week ago, she's the worst boss in Soulsborne. Yes that includes the abominations we found in DS2 like the DLC trio. Malenia is the only boss that isn't a boss. She's three one-shotting moves disguised as a boss through tons of generic slashes and thrusts that was given 34k health and a ridiculous lifesteal to survive long enough that she can cycle through those three one-shotting moves and make it seem as though it's an actual fight. Waterfowl and that clone attack are crimes to humanity.
I fought rennala with magic and would still rank her S or A. Also Malenia, blade of Miquella is easily top of S. That was the coolest, most fun, and hardest boss in the game for me. I didn't get mad a single time when I died and the feeling of finally beating her was amazing.
Your points about the camera at the end are so good. There’s times where you have time to plan ahead with how you use the camera but those birds make it unenjoyable to grind against.
Godfrey was the toughest fight for me, and the frustrating thing was that if before I find a tough guy, I would continue to explore the world and then go back to the fight, but with Godfrey being at the end of the game...there was not much for me to explore (I mean there's always tons of things to explore, but at the end of the game I was a little less motivated to do it)
this is entirely depending on what your build is. i used a thumbprint shield with a holy poker stick and cheesed most of the bosses until i got to meliquia
I mostly agree with these, or at least be within half a rank or so. My only change would be to put Astel in S. Easily one of the coolest bosses in any soulsborne game. Super creative, he's a fallen star so being larger than life is super cool, I think his mechanics are quite tough but fair. Really teaches people roll timing IMO.
There is two Margot’s because the first time you see him and the second time in the Altus plateau in the open world encounter he was just a spirit summon of him essentially trying to stop you
The larger boss fights honestly could be improved if we could just zoom out the goddamn camera. I don't know *why* Fromsoft is so goddamn adamant on not letting the player control camera zoom, this was a big problem imo in Bloodborne with some of the larger bosses/enemies. And don't say that locking on does that already, locking on to a higher body part angles the camera toward it, meaning that it's still going to be angled at it when getting closer, gimping the player's view.
I mean, it's realistic that against a massive, colossal enemy you are not going to be able to see what they are doing if you are near them attacking them. I have NO issues with the camera. You have to learn what they are doing through context and positioning.
I dont have the time or patience for this game but I love everything about it. Watch alot of content on it. Thanks for the list. Im sure I will get it at some point.
Just get it bro. There’s more than enough information out there to get you up to speed. If you hit a wall you can always respec for a build that the boss is weak too if you want… to a point. The drops for the respec items are limited to a certain amount per playthrough. That’s more than enough though.
Facing Radahn was for me exactly the kind of spectacle I was looking forward to in the game. Margit, the Fell Omen I beat in 4 tries but for me he is the perfect fight to prepare for what lies ahead in the game and Godrick to me prepares you for how some of the bosses are later on.
@@Odyssey636 yeah but the point is to have a cool looking fight you can stunlock any npc invader but the mimic tear fight is customizable so you should make something out of it
The problem with the tear is it just walks toward you swapping weapon stances multiple times and gets stun-locked to death. It reminds me of the archer contract for the volcano manor the second one. The should have made it Jester Tomas smart but its literally braindead.
What I find funny is that the entire reason Margit is at Stormveil Castle is because he's making sure no tarnished can become Elden Lord and he does so by crushing their ambitions right at the start of their journey.
So if you think about it, anyone who stopped playing the game because Margit was too difficult simply wasn't fit to be Elden Lord and Margit did his job well.
Omg yes. Legit “put these ambitions to rest”
Holy shit
I was so afraid of the bosses from all the hype I heard that I basically just grinded until level 40 then I faced Margit for the first time. I destroyed him.
This is definitely true, additionally I think it’s implied that he does not trust Godrick in particular to be able to handle the tarnished; which is why it makes sense for him to come beforehand and be harder
yeah, but the thing is that you can get so easily over leveled before fighting him, and it will be really easy to kill him
Down below E in the shadow realm needs to be the triple rot Crystalian fight.
Shittest mobs in the entire game. “Let’s add 3 stabby bois”
Its like some of the devs made a couple fights like theyre building a mario maker level
Fk them really. So annoying
use range attacks to bait them out then destroy them one-by-one, I farmed those trios again and again for the rotten staff.
@@maxgaj3015 No the boss fight in the secret cave in caelid.
Pretty much 100% agree with the list. Though I'd put Margit at S. His difficulty is meant to push unprepared players to explore more before taking on the challenge and I think he's pretty successful in that regard.
Maybe only radagon/elden beast , half of the people loves it and half hate it (I personally loved , but is subjective)
@@soulsborne8292 I feel like if you could horse ride the beast it would go over we more smoothly with the community
@@soulsborne8292 elden beast elden star sucked like super hard sucked it was a bad move dealt very little damage for how intensive the animation took but lasts so long the bastard can have 5 other moves off and it’ll still be unavoidable tic damaging you
Margit is clearly S tier
Nothing is that amazing visually about his fight though so I agree with the ranking.
00:28 Renalla, Queen of the Full Moon
02:00 Godrick the Grafted
02:50 Commander Niall
04:02 Loretta, Knight of the Heligtree
05:25 Red Wolf of Radagon
06:26 Godskin Apostle (skinny)
08:35 Elemer of the Briar
09:23 Rykard, Lord of Blasphemy
10:29 Fire Giant
11:46 Valiant Gargoyles
12:21 Mimic Tear
13:01 Godskin Noble (fat boy)
14:33 Godfrey, First Elden Lord/Hoarah Loux
15:28 Crucible Knight and Misbegotten Warrior
16:47 Margit, the Fell Omen
18:16 Radahn
19:32 Lichdragon Fortissax
21:00 Dragonlord Placidusax
21:50 Morgott, The Omen King
22:39 Mohg, Lord of Blood
23:58 Maliketh, the Black Blade
25:42 Fia's Champions
26:43 Radagon of the Golden Order & Elden Beast
28:04 Godskin Duo
29:02 Malenia, Blade of Miquella
31:35 Regal Ancestor Spirit
32:23 Magma Wyrm Makar
34:16 Leonine Misbegotten
35:54 Flying Dragon Agheel
36:31 Sir Gideon-Ofnir, the All-Knowing
37:14 Astel, Naturalborn of the Void
38:10 Dragonkin Soldier
38:36 Full-Grown Fallingstar Beast
Thanks for the heads up, fixed the list to include Radahn.
@@Cackamus you got to call it starscourage
Good man
Deeecent list!
unneccessary
Radahn/Rykard are just an amazing spectacle, Maleketh is super challenging, Margit/Morgot is just so cool because of the cool variety of all his attacks.
I think dragon lord is S. My jaw dropped when he dropped to the ground and roared at me.
@@andrewpaul8732 placidusax is S tier. Radahn Rykard are amazing to fight though
I found maleketh quite easy what type of build were you using?
Malekith super challenging lol
@@seriousmrhd8464 he was hard for me I was slow heavy boy
Whenever I see Malenia all I can think of is how damn cool this fight would be in Sekiro, just imagine parrying her entire waterfowl. I know fromsoft was testing the grounds with this boss and that's why it's optional, but it's still brutal.
It would be like those fucking long arm centipedes, spam until you break their posture
Demon of Hatred and Malenia should swap places
She is amazing in every way design, lore and attacks but then we get to waterfowl dance which is such a dumb move. She would be a perfect sekiro boss, your players moveset just doesn't compliment her at all.
Yeah, this boss straight up doesn't work in Elden Ring. This is such a Sekiro boss that once you get to her, you can just respec to a Sekiro build with Katanas and destroy her.
@@Akechifan I can see how that attack is strong against other builds. I found her to be 3nd hardest boss of Elden Ring. I personally am bad at 2v1 fights, so there were these two knights (one wizard other used sword and shield), I died sh*t ton of time more to them than Malenia. Same thing happened with that dude that eats deathroot (my fav fight). Would say the first Elden Lord was also harder for me, I figured it was a boss you had to jump a lot.
You know that attack where you start dancing with the twinblade (the blood one), that attack helped me get out of the waterflow. I also was able to quickstep from waterfolw. I also was able to use summon bell that argo the waterfowl. I am a filthy casual, just saying I found her to be a damn fun fight while not punishing at all. Might just be some builds are way weaker against her.
When it comes to Dragonkin, there is one version that is absolutely A Tier, and that is the Dragonkin of Nokstella. Once the second phase kicks in, and he sprouts them wings and start going God of Thunder on you, that's when he goes all the way to A Tier for sure.
Fun and epic as hell fight. Unless you're overleveled and thrash it before it's able to transition, then whatever I guess...
Kin*.
@@leaner5675 👍🏼Thanks.
I was thinking the same... The whole arena is so awesome...
Completely agree, it sucks that most people lump it in with the others as a "re-skin" boss. In a game like DS3 where there were 19 bosses at launch it wouldve been much more memorable, but lots of people just forget it cause its an earlier optional boss in a game with over 100 bosses.
Damn,I was definitely over leveled. I didn't even know he grew wings
Margit and Morgott are definitely S tier. Margit is my favorite in the entire game. He actuallly has ways to punish him, his moveset and animations are freaking amazing quality. The unforgettable lines, his lore, his gate keeping low level players. The music. EVERYTHING about Margit is just amazing. Morgott is the same, but shows you how far you have come, and his moveset is even cooler, although much easier by this point in the game.
I disliked almost everything after Morgott and Morgott. Not a fan of all the moves with slowed down animations and auto tracking moves. This is my first Souls game and I beat it three times for all achievements but the latter parts of the game aren't for me and because of that I'm unsure if I will get another Souls game again. I too used to MH combat by comparison. I did think of checking out DS3 if/when it goes on sale though but I'm not sure.
@@nuke2099 What's MH?
@@Name-yo6lf Monster Hunter.
@@nuke2099 MH is my fav series and imo it has a lot of similarities with souls games. But nothing elden ring or any other souls game has can ever compare to the Fatalis fight in MHW.
@@joshwaterman5526 nah, Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin's combat isn't the best in the series only because Elden Ring exists now.
The reveal with Margit actually being not just a child of Marika but one of two Omen Twins born of her is phenomenal. Especially since despite being born outside the Grace of the Erdtree, he chose willingly to uphold the Order that would have seen him persecuted. There's a self-loathing and depreciation that runs so deep that he is reluctant to use his own cursed powers because he sees his own existence as a living heresy.
he's a simp
He’s my favorite character in the lore, he loved and fought to defend the erdtree and the golden order, though they rejected him
@Dio-xo9rv He is Godfrey's son, therefore a direct child of Marika's.
@Dio-xo9rv I distinctly remember the game calling Morgott Godfrey's son somewhere, but the fact that Godfrey is mourning him in his intro is all the proofs you really need.
@Dio-xo9rv Well Morgott is noted as being a demigod, and therefore of divine lineage (I mean we know he wasn't granted demigodhood afterwards, because he's an omen). Obviously he's not Godfrey's father or brother. So why would Godfrey, who was absent during the Shattering, recognize/mourn a distant relative who, as an omen, was shunned and hidden from society for most of his life, even as he became Lord of Leyndell?
heavy disagree about Loretta being an E tier fight. It was a fair fight, it played completely differently from tree sentinel.
It was fair, just complete shit cause it was just the tree sentinel again but with another skill.
Doesn't deserve E, its definitly an okay B tho
@TBN won't pop she does, the bow attack changes from single shot to triple and it moves much faster. thats it though afaik
Loretta being lower than Fia's Champions was a crime imo. Three dudes are a better boss than a boss with proper unique moves?
@@darukan She also has a three-hit jumping combo when the weapon turns blue along with the two hit one...I think the first fight only has the two hit one.
Godrick is my favorite. S tier for me. He does it all.
- Melee with multiple arms
- Shockwaves you can jump over
- Super mobile, can roll around like a madman
- Jumps into the air
- Gets a flamethrower that can also grab you
- Throws wind/fire ranged attacks
- Soundtrack is super hype
- Lord of all that is golden
- BEAR WITNESS!
He's easy asf but he is also fun asf. Love Godrick
Best fight in the game fur sure
@@bradgrundy512 ehh I think its rykard but that might just come from visual
@@fbislif3 rykard is literally all visuals and voice acting. The actual fight is whatever
Yep. Godrick is S tier and one of the best.
> bad ass arena
> one of the best soundtracks, easely in top 3 best tracks
> fun boss fight
> great 2nd phase
> fair
> you cant reach him overleveled
The only thing I would say I’m confused about is why Loretta is so low, but Godskin Duo is as high as C. It’s reused moves, a gank fight placed together when they don’t work well, have reading capabilities with their range attacks and don’t die even when you kill both at the same time. IMO, I’d say Godskin Duo is the same level as Loretta if not worse.
yeah i highly agree, i wouldnt put loretta lower than valiant gargoyals or godskin duo. I think those are poor duo fights and they don't even play off of eachother because both enimes are very competant without each other
def agree, while yea it is a reused boss and isnt difficult (at that point at least) it was still a fun one. godkin duo just seems cheap as especially with the revive and ur just stuck running away for half the fight.
@@Grizzlybearsaremyfavoritebears Godskin duo more like sleep pot duo, seriously two sleep pots and the fight is over in seconds.
@@exanyt I summoned the bernhal dude to help. He pops off
I disagree. Godskin duo is definitely not that hard. I would put loretta in B tier and godskin duo in mid A, beside commander Niall
Now that we are on "post nut clarity" after we finished the game I realize a thing about Malenia: The problem with her Waterfowl is how hard was to understand how to dodge it. I swear I was on my 100th attempt and still couldn't understand how to dodge it properly. On the other hand people need to see beyond this. Malenia is the experimental boss of the Elden Ring. FromSoftware went overboard with her (lifesteal on attack, insane tracking on Waterfowl Dance) to test the waters, that's why she's optional.
but for me she is the best boss in the elden ring, some people might hate her i do understand that, but once u learn her mechanics to how to deal with the waterflow dance melee solo build, it feel like as though as you dance along with her, i really love it, maybe it was just me, idk, idc want people say about her
@@farianandadiratama dance? smh
@@derekhatake well it's for me, idk about someone else
There’s methods to dodge that attack, in my case i used bloodhound step but it’s definitely possible to dodge normally, it’s just that the way you have to dodge is very odd
If I didn't have bloodhound step idk how I would've beaten her tbh
Both versions of Margit should have been in S in my opinion.The first time you fight him he does destroy you but his move set is ridiculously good it makes him fun to fight.And the final time you fight him his move set is even better but it also shows you how far you come since you are now the one destroying him.
Hell yeah, I've made 5+ characters just to fight Margit again, easily the most fun and rewarding fight in the game.
Like Asmon said, as a fight itself it's definitely S tier but it's sidelined by the fact that it's a filter boss that is too hard until you've geared up.
@@bmbm1 He's hard for a good reason, because once a player is done with him they're skilled enough for the rest of the game.
Which is why vordt of the boreal valley sucked, it was easier than tibia mariner.
Ngl I didn’t go into the castle until I had done portions of Caelid so I whopped him first try lol
@@bmbm1 Which is a terrible reason to put it at A. The whole point of him as a boss is to push you to explore the open world. Not quit the game and it worked. Asmon seems to think a lot of people quit the game despite it being one of the most popular games on steam of all time and having an extremely high completion percentage according to steam achievements.
2:35 lore-wise, margit is supposed to be harder than godrick. margit is there to prevent godrick from grafting your tarnished to himself, as he would become stronger than margit if that happens
Margit hated all of those other shardbearers, he was the only one with some sense left
Margit just fucking hates all tarnished and shardbearers. He always rides out to murder other tarnished, so I believe he is there simply to eliminate another fool who will tear the world apart to become a lord.
I thought he was there to protect Godrick because he was the weakest
@@NameThatIsJust Why would he protect a demigod he hates with passion?
@@skomolowski Idk I just heard it from a video
Elden Beast wasn’t even that hard for me, he was just annoying with how far away he moved. That fight should have allowed you to ride on Torrent. It seems like it was made for it and it would have been a good final moment with him. Instead as a melee user you hit Elden Beast once and then watch him swim like a mile away, run after him, and then watch him swim away again. Shit final boss with a really cool design.
God I love the design so much though. Yeah having a torrent for just the Elden Beast part would've been sick actually, I do love that idea
Couldn’t agree more wasn’t difficult but holy shit was it annoying especially when he was at low hp he would just swim away
@Kermit with an AK Naw I know I’m not alone in this. I’ve definitely seen tons of videos where sometimes he moved around a ton and is just annoying, and sometimes he doesn’t. It’s similar to how sometimes Malenia will use water fowl dance a ton and during one time I fought her I think she used it once ever.
@Kermit with an AK Torrent doesn't always trivialize or cheese fights though. Quite a few of them felt more like they were intended to be fought with torrent, and some where Torrent was available were much easier on foot. I imagine that's also build dependent as well
@Kermit with an AK lol you probably cheesed the fight and killed him quickly with over leveled weapons since you didn’t experience that. I spent like 4 hours beating Radagon/Elden Beast and he swam away so many times. Like I said the fight isn’t difficult it’s just the many things that could annoy you or frustrate you that depletes health.
The buildup and anticipation for Radahn is on the level of Artorias... A legendary warrior that succumbed to a dark power (Humanity/Rot) and is now only a shadow of his former self, but still super powerful. So yes, SSS all the way.
Its literally not lmao, artorias was a duel, 1 vs 1 against a corrupted injuried legend, the ENTIRE game resolves around him and the other knights, not only do you skip the entire fortress to radahn, but the fight is literally just a giant clusterfuck
@@SwaggerHarrystlyesminecrafter the fight might not be as memorable to you, but you can't deny that having a lot of background on Radahn being the strongest Demigod, who literally has a festival on his honor to put him to rest, built that anticipation to fight him. Not to mention even some of your NPC allies also fight along with you... Narratively it's just great.
@@zambrano8512 well i know for a fact for most people the fight was just „wtf is this? What are we celebrating? Who is this?“ i mean just think about sifs hidden cutscene when you kill artorias before going to him
@@SwaggerHarrystlyesminecrafter If you don't listen to any cutscene sure
@@Red_2nd only diff is that ds1 is literally based around artorias, way bigger buildup than radahn
Leonine the Misbegotton is what really got me into the game. Finally understanding the mechanics and feeling like you have taken down a very powerful foe without cheese really got me into this game. Will remain at the top of my list for a hot minute
I fought Leonine before Margit. The result is that he became my Margit, killing me like 23 times, while Margit took only 3 tries.
@@TheSuicune7 Same. Got my ass beat so many times I decided no real bosses for a while, just wander around and kill stuff. Maybe even a few of those side dungeons. Although Leonine was tough, he never felt that out of reach like Margit was feeling. Went back over-leveled at some point and it was a breeze then lol. I'm glad I got that accomplishment and didn't just put the game down
@@billbarthel5224 it felt real good when I crushed the one before Rahadan that had a Crucible Knight backing him up. I could tell I got way better at the game
I pretty much beelined to stormville. I actually didn't discover Weeping Peninsula until I went around exploring missed areas close to end game, and I two hit Leonine 😅
I was so mad I missed the area, would have been so helpful early game.
I feel like the Elden Beast wasn't tested enough. Given how much it moves around, I feel like it was a boss fight designed with Torrent's usage in mind. The fact that the option isn't available to players feels like a major flaw.
Malenia and Maliketh feel like Sekiro bosses in terms of design. I believe they would've made fantastic bosses in that game as well.
Weird. For me this was the best aspect of the elden beast. Dodging the ranged attacks and getting back to it was really fun.
Elden Beast was one of the worse boss fights in the game and would have been demoted to a C for me. It was tedious and mostly boring. Radagon on the other hand should have been ranked as A-S tier on his own.
I feel like maliketh just has one too many aoe’s. If it happens after like three hits then whatever, but if he’s gonna leap off the pillars, shoot magic at me then land with a double whirlwind spin, then yeah, i’d like to get a good punish on that
@@oACDCo Yeah I enjoyed Elden Beast. It was like it had attack and defense mini-phases. You spend periods of time dodging really cool attacks, and then rush him down to get some damage in. Also, the sound effect of hitting the Elden Beast is my favorite sound in the game. Shattering a god, one hit at a time
I could see melania working in sekiro but maliketh? Absolutely not
Rykard is for the ‘gimmick fight’ what Ornstein and Smough is for the ‘gank battle’.
Sure its a gimmick fight, but I thought it was fun and cinematic as fuck.
Well said
There are loads of other great gank fights across from games though? It isn’t like O&S is the only good gank fight. In my opinion, they aren’t even the best. And Ornstein is buggy as hell, people avoid this but everyone knows it’s true. Some of his attacks are straight up broken. And not in a balancing way.
@@anonymous01201 Ornstein is pretty jank. I've always thought the Demon Prince was the best gank fight in the series
This mf straight up said that malenia was a gimmick fight because of waterfowl. Dude is just trying hard to have takes.
As a player that never played FromSoftware game before Elden Ring, Margit was so fucking cool! The voice actor nailed the job and the famous "Put these foolish ambitions to rest" after each death, and there were a lot of deaths for me, really made me thinking if this game is made for me
Mohg is absolutely S-tier. The "his slow attacks are a gimmick" is absolutely ridiculous. If you got hit, it's because you panic rolled. Spreading his blood fire around the area makes you have to fight even harder to stay close to him, and it does a great job of applying pressure to you for the sake of intensity. Super frustrating fight, but it drives adrenaline.
I agree with the first part , not so much the second , having bloodflame on the floor everywhere was just annoying , would have preferred him to have more moves but less blood throw spam .
@@saula8948 it teaches you to not get greedy makes it more of a patient battle, also in the lore the blood he's using is ripped out of a god.
@@cringeylazy Again they could have done something else to make me less greedy when fighting him , I dislike shit on the ground , I didn't like the valiant gargoyles spiting poison either , I also was not fan of Godfrey's constant stomping on the ground either , not my cup of tea .
As far as the blood and the lore goes I am pretty sure the blood he throws at you is his own blood .
The blood of the Outer God - The Formless Mother that you mention is only used when he uses the trident and does the NIHIL attack when he stabs the air with it 3 times and damages your health directly .
@@saula8948 I completely respect how others don’t like the bloodflame, but I personally like it. It forces you to get close to the boss and actually learn his attacks. It also forces you to pay attention to your surroundings, and jump over or roll over it. You can’t compare mohg to the joke of the valiant gargoyles. You know the bloodflame is being spread. You could be attacking one gargoyle and the other starts shitting his poison out of your vision. Again, some might not like having to toughly diverse an arena, but I personally do enjoy it. I do wish the arena was a bit bigger though. It would make this dispute, well, not a dispute.
@dweblin I agree! I like his content but this ranking list was kinda trash 🗑 IMO
Morgott has to be S. One of the best fights in the series... just wished he had a bit more health
give it a couple NG+ power ups lol. I think every boss people complain about as being too easy will show their true nature when all enemy health and damage generalizes in NG+ games and you dont have to worry about overleveling.
@@zade8586 yeah, I was very careful when it came to overleveling in my first playthrough, I was lucky enough to be balanced for every fight
he's too aggro for me to call him S tier
@@CreativeName7895 Quite a few bosses are a lot more aggressive than him in this game, he actually does give you a bit of time to breathe more than a few others if you think about it
imo it might've been cooler if i never fought margit but all of those in S tier, malenia, and renalla i prefered. still a good fight but definitely not close to the besr fromsoft has made
The first time I got Godrick to stage 2 and saw him rip off a dragon head and use it as an arm I was completely hooked by this game
rennalla as a mage is cheese. you just have to use gravity spells because they do physical damage and she takes insane damage
I also played mage and found Rennalla to be pretty easy once you figured out her gimmicks. Definitely not that hard to take down with magery, was not using glintstone spells - maybe those in particular don't work well?
That’s because gravity spells do physical damage not magical lol
Yeah I fought her as a mage on my first playthrough and I didn't even notice she had high magic resistance because I just spammed rock sling the entire time.
Yup used meteorite staff and rock sling, beat her 2nd try. I didn't even know that was a good way to fight her as a mage
I just liked the spell
U can roll into most of her attack apart from the first one too. The hardest part for me was the summons. U just have to get them and her in front of u which is hard when she summons the wolves
100% agreed with Asmon on the confusion on why some large boss fights went back to the issues fromsoft used to have with huge fights where your just looking at feet e.t.c. Midir already fixed the issue but bosses like fire giant prevent you from seeing the spectacle or what is going on and ur just hacking his legs
He rolls every other 5 seconds. You see him a ton lol
@@carsonecalono lol, just like the elden beast.
How did Midir fix this "issue" (which I think is a complete non-issue)? Fire Giant is like 2x as big, it's a poor comparison, as Midir's height isn't anywhere close to as big as Fire Giant.
@@psykomyko730 If anyone deserves credit for "fixing" the issue its Amygdala since the arms and head were its only genuine weakpoints and the legs did next to nothing. You can beat Midir hiding under them, it's tedious and long, but its doable.
Hell I would even pass more credit unto the Dragonkin soldiers since you had to go around them as opposed to under them to spank their rear. That damn belt of theirs XD
@@psykomyko730 make fire giant like rykard where you fight him at range with a special weapon
Godskin Apostle is my favorite fight in the game. Glad your chat also seemed to like him, even if you didn't!
Godskin Apostle is so cool. His moveset, the stretchy abilities especially, the music is godlike. I rate him higher than Godskin Noble.
The Apostle is cool, but I prefer the noble because I like the way he wields his rapier
He's S tier for sure. S tier bosses are: Maliketh, Radahn, Regal Ancestor Spirit, Mohg, Morgott, Godskin Apostle (especially the Caelid one) Rykard, Placidusax, and then Godfrey in that order for me.
So overused, so underpowered. E tier
Foreskin Duo deserves its own tier
foreskin haha
s+ tier
@@mum-your godskin quad
@@WeirdTroll666 dlc should honestly be only godskins mobs and bosses
Morgott is such a good boss it makes me glad my build was so bad while i was fighting him, cause i was doing no damage and the fight went on WAYYY longer than it should’ve but it was so much fun i didn’t even mind
Ya I had a good build and just steam rolled him first try with the starscourge greatswords and I only spent like 6 centurion flasks
for the godskin noble you can just run in circles whenever he does his roll and he will never catch you
Yes, but the skinny one can still attack you. I think this rolling attack lasts too long xD
Or get in the muddle and stand still
@@Lumigle He's talking about the godskin noble fight. Not the godskin duo fight.
@@PyroCham Yes, you are right.
But you will fight this two in the future so my point is the same.
Edit: I contstucted bad the phrase because English is my 3rd language, but you get what I wanted to say. XD
@@Lumigle You said that "the skinny one" can still attack you. Which is not true. Godskin noble is just one boss. So how can "the skinny one" still attack you, if it's a single boss? :)
As I said, you are referring to the Godskin duo fight. Which is them both together. The OP was talking about the godskin noble, so that makes your initial comment irrelevant and untrue. Maybe you will understand it now. :)
I think Mogh is the 2nd best boss fight only behind Radahn, despite his attack is often delayed it's still feel fair in my opinion, it's such a fun fight and it feel really good fighting him. Every other things like the music, arena, lore etc are at it best in the entire game.
46:36 The Draconic Tree Sentinel has a fire breath horse and lightning strike abilities so I wouldn't say that he has the same move set as the normal Tree Sentinel cause the Tree Sentinel has none of that and neither has Loretta. Loretta also has a lot of magic abilities like the bow or her staff for instance which the others don't have at all. Of course you fight these "bosses" at least twice each, though.
45:11 A part of their move sets might be reused but they still have unique moves which makes them feel different enough for me to not just say that they are a plain copy of each other.
Why are people so defensive over Loretta? She is a tree sentinel with 4 added magic attacks. Draconic Tree Sentinel is a Tree Sentinel with 3 extra attacks. He's not comparing them thematically or how they look, go look up their moveset. 90% similarity between the three
you legit fight her twice once in the manor and then in the hailgtree add that with the same moves as the other sentinels and you see why its a low tier fight
for context I beat tree sentinel in 10 tries and I beat draconic tree sentinel in 150, his 2nd form where he can oneshot you with everything really changes things
@@Explicitnice he doesn't have any one shot attacks, just sounds like you don't have enough vitality.
@@MagiLag1 I literally had 40 vigor and the lightning talisman the fuck?
Maliketh is my most favourite boss fight. I loved fighting him.
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"godrick is a really cool boss"
meanwhile, godrick in the lore is a huge dork and everyone thinks he's bitchmade lmao
Not even mortals take him seriously
Godrick is just if Mirabel from Encanto turned into a shithead and I love it!
Yea Godrick is the least "cool" character in the story, he's literally born to be the weakest of his lineage and had to resort to the disgusting act of grafting to make himself stronger.
Lol true
I didnt like godrick hes so forgetable
Mimic tear with buckler parry is actually insane. I made that mistake the first playthrough.
I had duel Katanas and the skill that let's you jump into the air for a counter and he spammed it against me lol he was so hard the 2ed time I faced him
being a mage, the thematics and epicness of the setting really differentiated / made fights memorable for me, renala one is definitely my favourite
boss mechanics don't matter to elden ring mages
“Mimic tear is too easy” my brother you made the build
You can literally enter the boss without holding a weapon and then equip it after it spawns. Making it do 0 damage lol
@@Crytica. that's what I did 5 million IQ play
It is too easy, though. Every other boss you're fighting is WAY more powerful than you, so then when you fight something that's exactly as powerful as you, it feels like a joke. It's a shame, because I think the concept of the fight was extremely cool.
Thing with mimic is that because it's your build, you know where the weaknesses are. Also, the AI doesn't seem to know how to use the character as effectively.
@@Crytica. people saying it’s easy, but if you didn’t use that strat and cheese, you’d get smacked around by it. I’m on my 4th ng+ with a strength build and it literally one shots me with one heavy lmfao and I have 75 vig
It's kinda funny that Loretta is E because she is a "reskin" of an other boss, but the red wolf of Radagon is B. A boss wich is repeated like 5-6 times.
At least Loretta got some extra melee and magic moves to her moveset.
The only downside with Loretta isn't that she's a reskin, it's that she's a reskin met at the end of the game.
Radagon is repeated many times, but your first encounter with him is likely the boss itself.
So Loretta loses because she's overused before you even fight her. While Radagon at least is new when you fight him.
At least that's my understanding of Asmons ranking.
I wouldnt put the haligtree loretta high either but for completely different reasons, we only fought her twice right?
@@yes78
Yeah, but the issue with horseback fights is that there isn't a huge difference between them for the most part since they reuse the bulk of their movesets.
Different bosses have slightly different gimmicks like the draconian horse boss spitting fire and the tree Knight horse boss having a magic reflect shield. But the movements, and various attacks are generally the same.
So when you fight enough midnight rider bosses, tree Knight bosses, and the easy version of Loretta, you've pretty much fought the lot of them at a basic level.
Because of this you might end up feeling like she's just a reskin with an extra move or two.
@@yes78 Yeah, once in the carian manor and then in Haligtree.
I'm not saying she az an amazing boss, but the reason used by asmon why she is in E tier is certainly funny after looking that B tier magic sif.
@@Edanite Well, I don't think that was the thought process behind his ranking, because the lich dragon is also a reskin of the dragon from altus plateu just with death blight effects.
Mohg, maliketh, morgott, godfrey,radahn,
My top 5 best boss fights and characters in elden ring, all because of the lore, design, badass, lines and fights. I love them
Imo Morgott is the best boss in the game so far. His moveset is crazy and fast but completely fair. His animations and designs are sick. His voice actor is superb. His OST is AMAZING, you guys should really give it a try and his lore is great. The opening cutscene is probably one of the best and most badass boss intro in Soulsborne. My only complaint is that he has too little health. Like this is one of those boss that I wish it just won't end because it's so fun and engaging. Hell you even have Melina which is like the most unique npc summon in Elden Ring.
Problem is that he has such low health you dont even need to learn his mechanics, he should have had more health or generally higher stats cause leyndell was a really hard area but regardless of amy build i go fight him with hes always a pushover
Respect for giving props to cinematic gimmick fights. Rykard is my favorite variation of the storm ruler boss type seen in DeS and DS3. And it's undeniable the unique experience that the Festival of War brings for Radahn.
I love the fact that margit was so hard. he teaches you that you're supposed to go out and explore and level up before progressing. tree sentinel does that as well.
get the FUCK BACK OUT INTO THE FIELDS AND COME BACK LATER!
Morgott to me can be up there with the best bosses fromsoft has ever created if he ever gets an HP buff.
I think all he needs to be one of the best is some way for him to to close distance between you and him.
It all depends what level ur at when u face him
I agree with it. But Radagon is S, while Elden Beast is B. It's so annoying running around wihtout the possibility to attack.
Fire Giant suffered from that too(What EB did). I think what Asmon mentioned with only seeing the feet and ankles also added to my dislike of it since a ranged person could take in the whole of the giant.
I kind of wish Elden Beast was a secret boss like Moon Presence was as Radagon/Marika felt like the obstacle to overcome since pretty much every active person/faction wanted to either overthrow them or replace them. Minus The Golden Order under Margott of course.
100% I put them in A because it was conjoined. Radagon, fun and challenging. Elden Beast runs for dear life while throwing cheap incantations, albeit a cool fight
I think that annoying beast is worth it because of the spectacle. If it wouldn´t run away you would just look at it body the whole fight not seeing any moves it does.
Radagon is S. For me it was a super punishing fight but fair when you learned it.
Elden beast is absolute trash d/e tier. As my first souls game it was absolutely anti climatic fight and just overall annoying. The only thing I enjoy about it was the transition and the music. And then a fucking gooey dinosaur pops outta the muck.
Elden beast fucking kiting
My favorite boss was malenia ,
It felt like swordman vs swordman fight and I love that kind of fight.
For me me trying to bait out her waterfowl dance and try to predict what she's gonna do felt like brain game and I really loved it.
Totally agree
bad take, too easy and she is just a bitch bitching about being undefeated but all there is just a lover's pox cos she's a whore to the whole of the lands between
I was stuck on rykard for 3h because at that time I didn’t know how important vigor was So I had around 25 and almost every attack oneshot me. I knew I had to respec but I decided to be stubborn and actually memorised his whole attack pattern to the point that when I killed him he hit me only twice. Absolutely amazing fight.
Can't you just pick the serpent-slaying sword and stun lock him?
@@kevinserradez7300 doesn’t work like thst
@@Blastoisebo122 I just beat him that way. Just stack on cerulean tears and use the skill. Wait one second before using it again so it uses the same that stunlocks
@@kevinserradez7300 ohh that makes sense. I kept pressing it right away which is why I didn’t work for me
How fcking bad are you? Like wtf
Margit and Morgott are definetly in my top 5. Morgott fight had crazy moveset, cinematography, thrilling music that makes you play on the edge of your seat AND it sometimes even fits his moveset. (Unlike Placidusax music which is 90% lame with only like 10 intense seconds.)
I mean, this entire idea of a rugged old man, with horns, a scorpion tail, hardened skin, fighting with a large stick, all these signs make you feel like he is some decadent hobo. But he speaks with such authority while literally conceiving weapons OF GOLDEN LIGHT from thin air, which disappear asa he uses them makes you feel like you're fighting someone you really should fear and respect. This huge contrast in itself leaves you completely clueless about who the hell he is, adding a huge element of mystery WHICH makes him even more intimidating :D
Morgott has depth to character, lore and to top those off, outstanding voiceacting. He also combines a variety of really rich literary archetypes. The king coating himself as a beggar and travelling the country, bringing justice for example. He also has strong king Oidipus vibes, a king forced to live with his curse and the great shame it brings to him, forcing him to roam (which also strengthens all this "gold covered by torn robes" vibe). Not to mention how his authority as king is not accepted by others, giving G. Martin's Stannis vibes.
He's the official "Git good" fight of the game, similar to what Pontiff was functioning as (to me) in ds3. Its like a word joke sometimes, as by the time you meet him again you GOT good (Margit --> MorGOTT)
All in all, I understand that he is an A as a boss, and I can partly see Asmon's point there, but as a character he'll always be one of, if not the most iconic character of Elden Ring to me.
Thanks if you read it through, I just felt like I needed to somehow give way to all the thoughts and feelings this character stirred in me, hence the long comment.
He does look like a hobo despite being the King of Leyndell XD I remember saying "Did frickin Highsparrow from Game of Thrones come back from the dead, just to spank me in Elden Ring?"
I was so confused when i fought him in Leyndell, I was like didn't I already beat you twice ? Then he said his name was Morgot not Margit and I was like oh his twin brother then people said nope its the same person you just fight him 3 times.
@@Dungpie64 Omens are the physical manifestations of strong premonitions. They were hated because they brought Ill fortune and were hunted or condemned to the Subterranean Shunning Grounds. This is why you fight Mohg there too, he was a Royalborn Omen like Morgott. Their ability to manifest is displayed by the Fell Twins who guard the path to the Divine Tower for Morgott and Mohg. Morgott ends up being badass because he has two pure manifestations of his Ill Omen fight you before you face him. Mohg has the potential to be encountered in phase 1 form, until you fight him in the Dynasty Mausoleum.
I just wish Morgott had more health. Leyndell is more challenging than the boss at the end. Kinda disappointing. If you level enough to push through Leyndell, you’ll be overleveled for Morgott
I completely agree. Morgott should at least be S if Margit is A.
I feel like the reason malenia is hard is the lifesteal more then the waterfoul
I guess I like a lot of the bosses more than most people, but my list would be Beastman-C
Niall-A
Black Blade kindred-A
Demi human Queen-C
Dragonlord Placidusax-S
Kindred of Rot-D
Demihuman chief-B
Dragonkin Soldier of Nokstella-A
Fell Twins-D
Dragonkin Soldier(lake of rot)-B
Elemer of the Briar-A
Fia's champion-B
Night's Cavalry-B
Astel(both)-S
Godrick-S
Cleanest knight-missed, but A tier enemy
Divine Bridge Golem-B
Decaying Ekzykes-B
Black Knife Assassin (Atlus)-C
Remenant- missed, but F tier enemy
O'Niel-B
Litchdragon Fortissax-S
Crystalian-C
Godfrey(near end)-A
Godskin Apostle-S
Godskin Noble-A
Scion-C
Aductor Virgins- missed but A tier enemy
Wormface-C
Bloodhound Knight-B
Rennala-S
Patches-B (fight itself is C)
Cemetery shade-C
Scaly Misbegotten-C
Radahn-S
Loretta (both)-A
Valient Gargoyles-A
Mad Pumpkin Head-C
Mimic Tear-A (easy, but the moment was cool)
Erdtree Burial watchdog (Sword)-C
Erdtree Burial watchdog (Staff)-F
Borealis-A
Ancestor Spirit(both)-A
Morgott-S
Bols-C
Bell Bearing Hunter-A
Crucible Knight-A
Gideon Ofnir-A
Perfumer-C
Both Falling star Beasts-B
Godskin Duo-S
Elden Beast-S (dont like the attack that follow you for a minute)
Margit-A
Soldier of Godrick-D
Tree Sentinel-A
Draconic Tree Sentinel-A
Miranda-D
Grave Warden Dualist-C
Glintstone Dragon-A
Mogh(basement)-B
Mogh Lord of Blood-S
Alabaster Lord-B
Zamor-A
Magma Wyrm-A
Black Knife Ringleader-F
Malenia-S (Waterfowl dance is kinda dumb up close)
Erdtree Avatar-B
Leonine Misbegotten-B
Lion Guardian-B
Nox Duo-B
OmenKiller-C
Radagon-S
Onyx Lord-B
Esgar-B
Tree Spirit-B
Red Wolf of Radagon-A
Battlemage-C
Rykard-S
Spirit caller snail-A
Runebear-F
Stonedigger troll-C
Tibia Mariner-C for early fights B for Giant Skeleton variant
Agheel-S (had a really awesome fight)
Fire Giant-A
Adan-B
Maliketh-S
Good list👍
Loretta is the best horse enemy in the game.
I don't care where he puts loretta, but saying she's a copy of the tree sentinels and draconic it's objectively stupid. Besides the magic casting, her halberd has many other move variations + jumps. He just doesn;t know her moves that well because he finished it too fast and he is stubborn to admit when he is wrong.
Except he isn't? She still has the base of Tree Sentinel...
Killing her so fast that you dont know what her moveset is is also a boss design problem
@@Thatguypat how? I can kill most bosses easily in 8 hits in ds3 with sellsword twinblades and good stats not overleveld some buffs on me and it’s a joke so some people choose to trivialize the game own fault
@@JDisclmd If you can kill bosses that quickly without going really far out of your way then they're too squishy
Unfortunately, ever boss in lategame Elden Ring is way too squishy because there's no scaling, so if you commit to doing as much of the game as you can you'll just end up being 80 levels higher than everything in the endgame without doing any grinding
@@Thatguypat i did everything I could in elden ring and I was level 90 when I reached morgot and I didn’t do 2k damage I did like 500 with the moonveil +9
Nothing gave me bigger goosebumps than when Radagon’s boss theme drops as soon as the camera starts to pan away from the stoic red-head
A nice bit of advice for the Godskin Noble roll, you can just sprint in a circle to dodge it
Personally i hate it because its not very rewarding to fight. Ive seen a lot of shit from even speedrunners where the safest thing is to use the pillar as like with smough in ds1 but often will just infinite roll and make it impossible to hit as a melee. Also if u do dodge it just keeps going to where ive had it roll 5 times in a row which is very much not fun. On top of that his rapier like weapon is incredibly fast and does a lot of dmg
Also rolling directly into it 90% of the time you won’t get hit
The way you experience each boss has so much to do with how leveled you were for them, asmon wouldve loved alot of the low tier bosses if he wasnt overleveled.
My personal top 5 is Morgott, Malekith, Radahn, Placidusax and Radagon.
Margit was originally 1st until I encountered Morgott. I think he is ridiculously hard for the early game, but i think that was absolutely the intention to stone wall the player. I think he was meant to make the player think "hmm, this guys kinda hard, maybe I should go and explore and see if I can get stronger for him.
Loretta is so much fun idc, idk why, it’s just extremely fun to dodge her attacks for me. Yea it’s easy, but I just think it’s so much fun to fight her.
Id have Loretta in B tbh
Because the base Tree Sentinels are so well designed
@@napsec9807 Tree sentinel for me was kinda mid, but Loretta not having a massive shield and instead preferring to use magic was a real treat for me. She shares about 2 moves with the tree sentinel and every other attack is original to her, which makes the comparison asmongold said incorrect imo, if you want a true re-skin look at the dragonic version that only has 2 unique attacks. Whereas Loretta only shares a couple animations with the tree sentinel.
Aside from the tree sentinels you fight her exact design and skillset in the Caria Manor. So she is a reused boss
@@DisappointedBuddha she has new move mix ups just like Godfrey does.
Mohg is my #1, the setting & OST is amazing. Dragonlord is great too, he reminds me of Valstrax from Monster Hunter.
Exactly! Mohg has earned my number 1 spot. I co-op there so much and I rarely find the fight dull. So many ways to cheese with different builds, yet the boss is still incredibly hard and his stage 2 is even more insane. The delayed, yet quick lunges. Bloodboon explosions. Miquella. NIHIL! Sheesh. it's top 3 at the least..
@@mum-your You see.. If he was a boss on his own with a full health bar, I would have to consider that because he's kicked my ass way too much too, and his moveset is byfar the coolest of all the bosses.
I didn't like mohg at first then in NG+ I fought him and loved him
Can you recommend a good monster hunter to play first?
@@benjamincorbett I'd say World & its sequel Iceborne (400-ish hours of content). They are the most accessible games and have a huge amount of quality of life changes/fixes for a less tedious experience. Also, since they're newer, the combat in general is a lot more fluid & less clunky than previous titles. Monster Hunter Rise is also a decent choice, since it's the newest game, but it was made for the Switch (now on PC too) and isn't as graphically appealing as World & Iceborne...
I personally would put Niall at S tier. Mainly because I'm a sucker for storm-callers, but also because I just think he's so badass and intimidating. (I was probably just underleveled)
See I really enjoyed the O'Neil + Niall fights, I loved the atmosphere and OST, and the battle cry they give when buffing their troops, it just feels really tight
I personally enjoyed O'Neil's fight more, because I thought it played really well on horseback
When Moorgot pulls that multicolor blade out you know it's about to get serious!
I lost it when asmongold was talking about crucible knight and misbegotten warrior, some guy in chat said ,,S+S=E YEP" hahahaha
Theres three Godskin apostles, the one in Caleid is particularly hard for some reason, but guards a very good sword
There are a lot of apostles all around
@@Dianbler youre right I keep finding more each playthrough lmao
Their is one in the spirit caller cave at mountaintop of the giants
Margit is a skill check, and a message to you to go out and explore, level up and get gear. Any boss can be hard if you if you limit yourself
This Loretta slander is foul
I think if you talk about Melania's fight, the other moves she has are pretty consistently hard. Once I learned how to deal with water fowl consistently, it still took me awhile to beat her. The clone attacks, quick combos, scarlet rot in phase 2, and the 2 or 3 grabs she has. She takes awhile to master. I will say waterfowl is absolutely the biggest hurdle, but once you get past that there's still a lot of challenge there in my opinion.
2:00 “Mages Deserve it” “That’s True” lmao.
I think the godskin apostle depends on where and when you encounter him. If you encounter him at the bottom of the tower in Caelid, he’s tough, but if you encounter him at the windmill area he’s quite a bit easier.
Serpant hunter spear should be able to work in fire giant fight to make it more interesting
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The reason Margit is an S tier fight is because of how hard he is and the fact he makes people quit. This is not coming from an elitist place either. It's because thematically that's exactly what he is attempting to do. He is trying to squash "the fires of ambition" before they get too strong. He is Morgott showing up early in "disguise" to eliminate ambitious Tarnished from getting their first chance at a Great Rune. I think it's brilliant.
He is also extremely easily beaten by grabbing a few levels in vigor and getting a couple extra pots early. Which teaches you this fact about the rest of the game.
He's not trying to get people to quit. What a ridiculous way to put it. FromSoft want people to experience their games. It was a lesson that newer players may need to go explore the world more fully and level up further progressing, which is true of the rest of the game as well.
@@jdubb982 no he still hard I've finished the game and still think margit is one of the hardest bosses in the games for how rude and hard It is that early in the game
@@khanager2814margit does say that he’s looking to existinguish your flame of ambition. Fromsoft might not be trying to make you quit but he is
@@faresktari8977 he is an optionnal boss and you can even fight him at level 150 ..... he is easy even if his moveset is hard to understand for beginner
Unreal the loretta analysis. It’s an upgraded version of the caria manor fight. You can’t just range her down and have to carefully dodge her 3 hit slash or the blue blade combo
Nothing like any of the tree sentinel fights at all
Loretta at Haligtree in fairness and as far as player timing feeling rewarding is S tier right next to Godfrey
Let's be honest we've all resorted to poppin the Mimic Tear, than brute forcing while he face tanks the Boss.
So fucking happy to see my boys Godrick and Mohg getting the appreciation they deserve. Such good boss fights.
“If you build your character a certain way, and then there’s a boss that completely stone walls you…” every pyromancer in DS3 vs Soul of Cinder knows what I’m talking about 🙌🏼😩
I mean coming from a lore perspective I mean... Cmon man😂😂 the souls of all those who linked the flame is resistant/immune to fire?!?!? NAH WAY😂😂
Or Old demon king. At this point of the game you dont have any dark pyromancy and thus deal literally no dmg to him
Kinda dumb that he places Renala super low because of this and then proceeds to put Radagon in S while having like 97% Holy immunity... Completely ruined my Jesus run which was my first playthrough
Godskin noble was a great duel in the church. Volcano Manor was a cool area and when you kill the snake men just to approach this massive warrior with bizarre attacks was so cool
I agree with 99% of this, I'd just make a new tier below them all and put the godskin duo in it.
“Fia’s champions” is the weirdest and most random inclusion on the list, why does that even have a rank lol. Also wish elden beast and Radagon were separated, I’d say Radagon is an easy S tier but elden beast is A or B carried only by how cool it is
The loretta disrespect is insane. Honestly a Low A tier or high B tier fight for me. I think she is really fun to fight, beautfiul, and drops amazing weapons and armor. She has good lore too but just not enough relevance in the story to bring her up higher.
I personally would disagree with loretta as it was one of the first bosses I really struggled with(the ghost version) so it is a really memorable fight for me. I did things in a kinda roundabout way and did caria manor right after godrick before even knowing how to get into the academy. There I also encountered the red wolf as a normal enemy before the boss so that would bump it down a bit for me.
my rankings:
*S* : Godskin Apostle, Godskin Apostle, Godskin Apostle, Godskin Apostle, Godskin Apostle, Godfrey
*A* :
*B* :
*C* : Godskin Duo
*D* :
*F* : Godskin Noble
Personally I think it would be cooler to have you fight godric before margit, partly because if you killed godric it would make sense for margit/morgot to hunt you down as you have become a threat, like the idea he didn't have time for you before because you weren't dangerous or a threat, but after killing godric must be dealt with. I just think it would feal cooler and make more sense.
I’m glad asmon loved Misbegotten warrior as much as I did. I love the music that he shares with Oneill and Niall, and Especially the one at castle Morne, his arena is so cool. And the crucible knights are one of the best mini bosses in the game. I also loved Gideon, but I just wish he had much more health in his fight. Also morgott would’ve been an S tier for me, lore music and design are all amazing, only issue with morgott is honestly that he should’ve been a bit harder for where he was at in the game. Also what he said about malenia is true, no matter how many times a “git gud” dark souls “veteran” shows me that single strategy to outrun that attack, I won’t care. Waterfowl dance is the single hardest part of her fight because to avoid it correctly you have to be watching for it throughout the entire fight because if she does it while you’re recovering from an attack then you’re dead. It makes the fight not as FUN as it could be. However malenia’s lore and the thematics and cinematic s of her fight are S tier. Design too. Booba.
Another edit: I personally loved the mimic tear fight. Especially how it will copy some of your attack patterns, for example, on my 3rd run of the game, I used 2 buffs before the fight and the mimic used those exact two buffs in the same order, and it used jumping atttacks and Marika’s hammer’s weapon art like I like to a lot.
Yea gideon could have been really cool but for an end game boss is just too squishy. The misbegotten was a fun fight but it just feels out of place in all its places. Lore wise its shit and thematic wise its shit. Mechanically great fight in particular for the early game.
@@chriscavallo1006 I agree about misbegotten feeling out of place in most places, but I think the one at castle morne feels good. The misbegotten were the servants that rebelled against Edgar and took over the castle, so I think it’s fine that the warrior is the boss of that area since he seems to be the “leader”. And I’m glad someone agrees about Gideon.
I'd 100% put Morgott as S tier. I love his lore, love his voice and his fighting, not too hard but still challenging, fire abilities. And Malenia (still haven't defeated her) is also S imo, for her lore, her difficulty and how she is so not an Elden Ring boss. Her fighting looks so much like Sekiro. Also, fuck Commander Niall. I hate him with all my guts. Him and his double sworded knight. Hate them. So fucking much.
If they removed Malenia ability to heal I would've been fine with blocking her flurry attack.
@@Dungpie64 then she will be too easy because everyone will have ash that have multi spirits to stagger her for day without worrying about her healing back
Malenia lore is so cool. But the flurry attack still bs imo
Malenia is an E tier. Along with all the other RNG bosses. Did the boss roll the kill attack this time? Guess you lose. Rinse repeat until she doesn't do the move and you kill her.
Honestly, Morgott is just way too easy and the fight is mostly ruined because of it. Yes, his moveset and the presentation of the fight are top tier, but he deals too little damage and has way too little health. I beat him easily first try without summons, even while intentionally gimping my character and build because the bosses pre-mountaintops were just too damn weak. Such a letdown since his moveset was Margit (who is an S tier fight imo) but better, but you don't even get to properly fight him because he dies too quickly and deals too little dmg.
I'm glad he made the distinction that a hard fight isn't necessarily a good fight. Anybody can make a hard fight, it's easy. But making a challenging fight that's FUN is what's really impressive.
For me Rykard was the best one, awesome in everything and if for some reason you don't notice that you need to use the special weapon your going to have an extremely hard time. The second best one was Radagon. That Radagon intro with the signature Elden Ring music and his pose was epic as f$%^ and he is just a hard and sturdy hitter.
Great list! I agree with most of what u said in this video good job.
with the “the boss got reused so its bad” argument, i mean say the godskins or tree sents and all those there are meant to be alot of them as they are actual factions and they are a prt of those so even lore wise it would make sense that there are many of them
I agree on that one. Those were right because of the lore. Some bosses... Damn, I was pissed when I met another Astel in a cave. Because it was such a unique, amazing looking boss then... another one of that? Why?
I felt the same with Red Wolf of Radagon, but I could think of them as a specie at least.
So some reuses makes perfect sense, some just felt lazy.
@well yeah but with Astel it’s also the same, they came from stars so it would also make Sense ( take falling beasts for example)
Ah, yes, good ol' bad game design choices are actually good cuz "mUh LoRe" stfu
@@HopefulNihilist cope
@@masteroogwaywaschilled4649
Average sub human From Software fan be like:
It's wild to me how many people love the fire giant. To me it was a miserable experience of looking at feet and getting smashed in by his plate. With a massive fucking health pool it's just a slog
Agreed. Its like fighting the normal giants cept a bit more mobile and will nearly if not one shot u.
Was pretty painful for me given I used a fire greatsword against him. However it was +9 and figuring out how to stay on his left ankle for the first phase, and hide behind him on his second phase made the fight very easy.
Margit/Morgott is what I called a gatekeep boss. Margit gates the earl to mid game, while morgott gates Mid to late. Easily the best skillcheck boss.
Agreed. I think Margit especially is just hard enough. I wouldn't have him any other way.
Wasn't a fan of Morgott or most of what comes after.
@@nuke2099 morgott is absolutely incredible
@@yab3146 I wasn't a fan of the fight itself. Not for me.
@@nuke2099 is this your first souls game? Curious because he's a standard souls boss but cool as fuck
I like how diverse these boss' opinions are. I, for example, since I took my time and did some good ol' farming, every single "big" boss died on 1st try. Crucible Knight gave me the most problems so far. Margit, Gordick, Rennala, Red Wolf, Misbegotten, ... all of them bit the dust in under few seconds.
My opinions on Malenia is I think it’s a very high S, I don’t say this because it’s hard, I say it because I loved learning the attacks and it felt so satisfying once I killed her unlike other endgame bosses. Like waterfowl dance, I could not wrap my head around dodging that attack close range (I didn’t use bloodhound step), farther away was easy, but closer was a nightmare, but once I finally learned how to, it became really satisfying whenever I pulled it off. And another thing was that no matter how much I died, I never genuinely got mad unlike some other people.
You said learning the attackS, but its really just about learning Waterfowl for the most part. Thats whats garbage about it. I felt basically nothing when beating her.
For me as someone who's no-hit her a week ago, she's the worst boss in Soulsborne. Yes that includes the abominations we found in DS2 like the DLC trio. Malenia is the only boss that isn't a boss. She's three one-shotting moves disguised as a boss through tons of generic slashes and thrusts that was given 34k health and a ridiculous lifesteal to survive long enough that she can cycle through those three one-shotting moves and make it seem as though it's an actual fight. Waterfowl and that clone attack are crimes to humanity.
@DarkEldenLord you didn't beat her, if you did you'd know waterfowl was like #3 on things to watch out for
@@conniefan123 Waterfowl is #1 to look out for. The clone attack is #2. Aeonia is #3. The rest is inconsequential.
@@conniefan123 Thats why I said for the most part. I had no issues dodging the other moves though.
I fought rennala with magic and would still rank her S or A. Also Malenia, blade of Miquella is easily top of S. That was the coolest, most fun, and hardest boss in the game for me. I didn't get mad a single time when I died and the feeling of finally beating her was amazing.
Rennala is my favourite. Just loved the whole thing.
You love taking it up the ass I see
Melania is an extremely poor designed boss
@@reecejones2994 The whole endgame areas are poorly designed.
@@reecejones2994 I simply disagree.
Your points about the camera at the end are so good. There’s times where you have time to plan ahead with how you use the camera but those birds make it unenjoyable to grind against.
In my opinion morgott should be S tier he just is a really awesome boss. Perfect to learn his moveset has amazing combos and his intro is badass
Love the water on the ground and the full moon background in Renalas fight however I really like Rykards fight the most with the serpent hunter blade
Godfrey was the toughest fight for me, and the frustrating thing was that if before I find a tough guy, I would continue to explore the world and then go back to the fight, but with Godfrey being at the end of the game...there was not much for me to explore (I mean there's always tons of things to explore, but at the end of the game I was a little less motivated to do it)
this is entirely depending on what your build is. i used a thumbprint shield with a holy poker stick and cheesed most of the bosses until i got to meliquia
I mostly agree with these, or at least be within half a rank or so. My only change would be to put Astel in S. Easily one of the coolest bosses in any soulsborne game. Super creative, he's a fallen star so being larger than life is super cool, I think his mechanics are quite tough but fair. Really teaches people roll timing IMO.
There is two Margot’s because the first time you see him and the second time in the Altus plateau in the open world encounter he was just a spirit summon of him essentially trying to stop you
The larger boss fights honestly could be improved if we could just zoom out the goddamn camera. I don't know *why* Fromsoft is so goddamn adamant on not letting the player control camera zoom, this was a big problem imo in Bloodborne with some of the larger bosses/enemies.
And don't say that locking on does that already, locking on to a higher body part angles the camera toward it, meaning that it's still going to be angled at it when getting closer, gimping the player's view.
Ulcerated Tree Spirits XD Fookers fly through the air and hog the camera for themselves.
I mean, it's realistic that against a massive, colossal enemy you are not going to be able to see what they are doing if you are near them attacking them. I have NO issues with the camera. You have to learn what they are doing through context and positioning.
I dont have the time or patience for this game but I love everything about it. Watch alot of content on it. Thanks for the list. Im sure I will get it at some point.
Just get it bro. There’s more than enough information out there to get you up to speed. If you hit a wall you can always respec for a build that the boss is weak too if you want… to a point. The drops for the respec items are limited to a certain amount per playthrough. That’s more than enough though.
Facing Radahn was for me exactly the kind of spectacle I was looking forward to in the game. Margit, the Fell Omen I beat in 4 tries but for me he is the perfect fight to prepare for what lies ahead in the game and Godrick to me prepares you for how some of the bosses are later on.
If you want a fun fight with the mimic tear then don’t heal and give it dragon incarnations
Wrong. Strip completely and have a meat slap off
@@Odyssey636 yeah but the point is to have a cool looking fight you can stunlock any npc invader but the mimic tear fight is customizable so you should make something out of it
The problem with the tear is it just walks toward you swapping weapon stances multiple times and gets stun-locked to death. It reminds me of the archer contract for the volcano manor the second one. The should have made it Jester Tomas smart but its literally braindead.