This video was shot around March 2021. Due to delays, I was asked to hold the video until September 2021. That explains the suddenly long hair 😀. I’ll have a 6 month review coming out in the next several weeks!
Great vid. I am retired pastor (on a fixed budget) with a small shop and build mostly small items; jewelry boxes, crosses, and items for Church VBS's. I saw where ridgid has also redesigned their contractors saw. It is the R4550. It has a rack and pinion guide like the DeWalt. Any thoughts on it. Thanks and have blessed day.
This post solves one of my biggest issue here, "it'll be coming out sometime this spring" when this video was posted September which is fall in northern hemispheres. But I am really curious as to how a channel that has less then 16k subscribers on a video that has less then 3k views... can get his hands on a PRE-PRODUCTION Saw like this. That being said... I think this video would have been so much more informative if you had compared it against the Delta Contractor Saw 36-725T2 which this Rigid looks like being copied from.
I am just a person who occasionally works with wood, not a pro woodworker, so YMMV, but I am super happy with the Delta 725T2 sister of this Ridgid. Lowes put these on sale for $325 last year and I managed to get one at that unicorn price. For me it has completely upped my game, as I previously had a blob of metal that vaguely resembled a table saw. Powerful motor, great fence, no complaints. One note on the power switch: I see Eric being super careful about making sure the power is off while plugging back in, but the switch is magnetic. If you pull out the plug when the saw is running, the power switch is automatically released. If you accidentally press the ON button while unplugged it won't matter at all as this is not a normal mechanical switch. Once you plug it back in the saw will remain off until you hit the on button again.
So update, I ordered and received mine. When I got to home depot we found that the box had been punctured by a forklift. Despite better judgment I took it home. Opened the box and found that the fork did hit and gouged the fence. I called Home Depot they had made a note on their file even before I left the store just in case. I called Ridgid and with no hassle at all they agreed to ship me a new fence it will be here Saturday. I assembled the saw and all the parts were snug and fit as designed. For sure someone could assemble this in an hour to 1.5 hours. Anyway, props to ridgid that was first class customer service. I'll do test cuts to square it up and make sure no other damage on Saturday.
I have the Delta version of this saw. The power switch is designed such that it CAN'T be on until it is pushed and held in for a second after it is powered off - that's why it's a momentary contact and not just an on-off (I assume there is some logic circuitry in there, which probably does the soft-start too). It would have to be badly broken to allow power through without pressing it when you plug it in. My gripe with the power switch is the position of it - I have hit the off lever with my thigh a few times now - grrrr. I may look into relocating it back a bit. I followed your video on making a router table insert for it - awesome and thank you for a really great idea! It came out great.
I really like this review. Very thorough, and I like that you went over some reasoning as to why someone may or may not want this saw. Pretty sure I'm sold on it, thanks!
Hey Eric. This is clearly an orange rebranded version of the Delta 36-725T2 table saw that is available through Lowes. Having had that version (Delta 36-725T2) for almost 2 years now, I can absolutely say it is a great saw for the money. In fact, I challenge anyone to find a better saw for under $1000. To address your concern about the power switch. It is a magnetic safety switch (latching relay) and if it is unplugged, it is off. The whole point is that if you loose power using it, the switch (latching relay) will "drop out" and then be in the OFF position so that when power is restored if will not start running again. Hope this helps!
Subscribed. There's an old saying in golf: "It ain't the sticks, it's the guy swinging 'em." You prove that applies in woodworking as well. Your two pieces shown near the end of the video are gorgeous! In a one-car (presumably apartment complex) garage with one outlet and budget tools. Wow. Very, very impressive. Cheers, sir! I look forward to soaking up your past and future content.
I believe you have demonstrated the maker is far more important than the equipment. You have built incredible stuff with one outlet and a very basic table saw in an apartment garage. Personally, I look for channels such as yours as I know I will never own a multi-thousand dollar SawStop (although I am sincerely happy for those who can afford the high end equipment and large shops :).
It's an Orange Delta. Everything about this saw including the assembly tools you got with it are identical to the Delta saw at lowes. Same fence and everything. Not a bad saw at all. Great saw at this price point. I built a router lift table for the left side and replaced the sheet metal extension. I plan to replace the table on the other side as well. I made the lift table on my cnc. If you want the file for the lift table let me know. I can cnc you one if you don't have access to cnc.
@@SpencleyDesignCo Hopefully they upgrade the availability. The Delta version tends to be hard to find. I had to drive to a Lowes in another state to get it. Not 1 single unit in my state but the Lowes I went to had five.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but i think that power button is a magnetic contactor switch. The current running through the saw keeps it switched on. So basically if the power is cut(as in unplugging the saw) , the switch turns off by itself and will only come on if you switch it manually while its plugged in. So for me that wouldn't be an issue. Great vid nonetheless. Cheers!
Sometime around 1999-2001 I bought a Ridgid TS2424. Cast iron top and wings, wheel assembly that can be engaged or not. (120v motor). The motor hangs off the back so it's a belt drive blade with plenty of power to rip through black walnut or oak. If you can find that model or one like it (ebay?), it's worth buying. I've used it for everything from making cabinets and rustic furniture, to ripping 4x4's. I made a sled for cutting off an edge of 3" to 4" diameter logs. And another jig to make tenons for log beds frames. Yes, you can do that on a table saw, but always rotate the log clockwise.
So happy to finally see the video on this saw. I just ordered the comparable Delta version basically, it’s twin the other day. I can’t wait to have real dust collection and a true fence. Thank you for being an awesome inspiration. Keep up the great content!
I purchased a R4514 from Home Depot during the 2021 Holiday Season to replace a 30 year old K-Mart 10 inch table saw on stationary stand which cost $99.99 back in the day and is kept outdoors undercover with a waterproof BBQ cover for protection from the weather elements. That old saw has given me my money's worth over the years. Although the R4514 specifies a 30 inch rip, too bad Ridgid uses plastic gears for raising and lowering the blade.
If that is a magnetic switch, don't worry about it. They are literally designed to be OFF unless you press the ON button. Lose power? Switch is in the off position (test this by unplugging it while it is running, then plugging it back in). Press the big red paddle, it's in the off position. It's a safety feature and I have retrofitted all my vintage stationary tools with similar switches because of it.
As someone who has a small workspace and been woodworking for 20+ years, upgrading to a table saw like this is a must! Still have my job site saw and if you need portability and don’t high accuracy they are fine but if you want to make things that need square accurate cuts save your money and make this purchase. I wish I spent the money when I started woodworking, would have saved my time and allowed me to make better projects.
Thank you for the honest review. While I would never expect perfection for whatever this costs ($600-$800), it's nice to know that you can do the work with it as expected. My dad did decades of pretty impressive work with a 1970's Craftsman Contractor Saw, and I think I knew how to overcome the limitations (or choose projects within the limitations of his saw). I think these Ridgid saws are still very good choices for people unwilling or unable to get a SawStop or professional saw. I want to start building boxes to replace the old drawers in my kitchen, I I think this saw or the R4520 is the sweet spot for me. Subscribed to your channel, I look forward to your next future videos.
Hey man.. I 100% feel for you. I also have a 1 car garage at my apartment and I also have only ONE 15 amp GFCI outlet to power all my tools. So I only have 3 major things running off the outlet: my portable air conditioner (an absolute must have for Texas), my miter saw, and my DeWalt table saw. Everything else I have to go for battery powered tools. Soon, I will move into a real home (hopefully) and I'll have a hundred outlets! Lol
For the power button issue, there is a hole that lines up that you are supposed to place a zip tie or some other form of lock to keep the button in the off position. We call it "Lockout, Tag-out." You should always Lockout, Tag-out if you are preforming maintenance... do I? No; Unplugging it is enough for me.
I have the Delta branded version of this saw and the table isn’t flat at all, it’s about 0.5mm lower in the center! The square tube sections the fence is riding on aren’t same height which means the fence is pumping into this step all the time. If you buy this saw no matter which branding you choose, checkbit carefully! Other than that this is a great saw at the price point. I upgraded from the Dewalt DWE7491 and it is a major upgrade for not much more money. But I have to say the Dewalt jobsite saw seems to be much better than what you had before…. But it costs only ~$150ish less than the contractor saw.
I currently have the original version of this saw and I hate, HATE hate the fence. It worked great new but I use mine a lot and it quickly became so inconsistent. Right now I am using new insert's in the fence that I ordered online and while it works kind of it has made it VERY stiff. Yes, I've waxed them but I don't want to sand them any and have them go out of adjustment like the originals. I looked at purchasing an aftermarket fence but I could buy a new saw for the price and I really like this saw other than the fence. I wish this saw had been available when I purchased the other. Thanks for sharing this review it will help in my decision of what I buy next!
If your still looking for a portable saw with high accuracy that you can use for rough cutting as well as furniture building, check out the Dewalt DWE7491RS. It has a 32.5" rip capacity and also has the best fence on the market. It is based on a bomb proof rack and pinion system.
Dude, you don't need to tell if it's on or off. Unplug it, plug it back in and it's off. Automatically. It won't go back on just by plugging it in. Kinda makes your "issues: with the power button moot, don't it?
I'll keep my Ridgid TS3612, they really went downhill after the 3612. My 3612 is wired into a 220V outlet, plenty of power for all those heavy ripping duties. The Sawstop Contractor saw is 120V or 240V, you simply rewire the motor for 240V once you move to a location that you can use it that way. A side note...many saws equipped with a multi-voltage motor doesn't give you maximum HP unless its wired up to a 220V outlet, so on a 1.5HP saw on 120V, you might be getting 1HP max.
Interesting review! It would have been nice to see a detailed look at the motor and trunnion assembly. I have the older version of this saw and it is not the best design out there. Aligning it to cut straight is a huge PITA. Everyone knows about the fence issues but the motor trunnion is a weakest link on that model. The other issue is Rigid used proprietary parts that you can't just buy anyware and when you need it it costs a fortune to replace. I not knocking Ridgid as a whole I have a few of their other power tools corded and cordless! When it comes to a Table saw I think you get what you pay for. In this case the $649 price tag Ridgid is asking I would not expect cabinet saw results nor would I expect longevity under daily use.
Great review! Only item that i do not like with this ridgid saw from what i can see is it no longer carries there lifetime LSA warranty. That has come in handy several times for me. I've also found my local homedepot is a repair center even though ridgid does not advertise this. i've been looking at this saw as an upgrade and came from the same jobsite saw you previously had. It actually had the same blade height adjustment failure. I took it to homedepot and they fixed it free of charge. I've been disappointed with my jobsite saw since the day i bought it. My father has what appears to be the same saw, but a model older and the build quality is significantly better. From the aluminum cast table to the blade the stand, everything was more robust.
Your old saw had a built it wobbling dado stack 😅 what a great included value feature! Seriously though those things are terrifying now that I know that they exist. Thanks for the great content man 👍
I just bought the R4513 at a yard sale for 75 bux. It didn't have the rip fence so now it's turned into a 200 dollar TS. I love the portability but I could tell without even using it that it's not going to be perfect, consistent cuts. It's ok tho because, I am the butcher from Dutch Hill 😆
I believe this saw will not start up once plugged in. …. So if you blow a breaker for example and then reset it. You’ll have to turn the saw back on. You can try it by running the saw. Un plug it. Plug it back in. If it doesn’t start up then other than the habit of checking the switch. Your good to go.
Great video. I like the sawstop comparison at the end. I have the same issue with having a small shop. Do I buy the SS jobsite now knowing that in a couple of years I want to get a bigger place where I may be able to fit a contractor saw or use the Skil TS I have now until I move. I got back and forth everyday. Great vid though!
Great review. After watching I'm totally ready to upgrade from my Skil table saw to this. When you showed how much the blade wobbles it was an aha moment. That and always measuring the fence to both ends of the blade. What a hassle. Your reviews and very detailed and much appreciated.
Your saw has a magnetic switch. If it you disconnect it, or it loses power it should not start when plugged back in or the power comes back on. Also, I had the Delta version of this saw and had 2 problems with it. One issue was the table was not very flat. The big problem was the fact that the arbor assembly had play in it and my zero clearance insert looked like the one from your old saw. I could grab the arbor nut and rock the assembly back and forth. I went to my local Lowes and the display model did that same thing. I returned it and went with a different saw. I bought a Fusion F2, had problems with that and returned it. I then ended up with a Shop Fox W1837 and have been very happy with it. What should you buy? Well, I built a mobile base for my saw with built in extension tables and storage. Got a real fence for it and all is well. At the time I did not want to get another job site saw either. The contractor version of the Saw Stop was a no go for me due to the external motor. A full cabinet saw was a no go as I need it to be mobile. The Delta, and then Shop Fox W1837 both work well with my mobile table idea. However, now that I look at my table, I could have easily built the able around the Saw Stop jobsite saw, and still used the same fence setup that I have now. I have a Jet Xacta rail kit with 53" rip capacity and a Very Super Cool Tools fence. It is a great setup. Anyway, just wanted to share this info. There are 3 big drawbacks to jobsite saws. The stability of the saw on the stand, the small table surface area and the bad fences. I could have resolved all of those issues with my mobile stand and had the safety features of the Saw Stop.
If someone is just getting into woodworking and considering buying a new job-site saw - don’t. Buy a quality, used contractor saw that is in good condition. You’ll pay about the same and will get much more saw for the money.
So, I finally pulled the trigger today. It took me a while but finally convinced myself. It should be here sometime next week. Let’s see how this goes.
I will say upgrading my garage outlet to 220v for my R4512 has been amazing and it hasn’t really bogged down with its 1 1/2 hp motor. Wish that was an option for you!
@@danielbrown9368 so the panel on the inside of the saw has a diagram for how to hook it up. You just need a 220 cable and plug end. If you’re not comfortable making your own cable I’d ask around for a local shop or electrician to help you out.
@@CamachoDean Ah sweet. I should be ok with a diagram. ("should") I just don't have any skill to go off script for sure. My issue is my DeWalt 745 doesn't have the strength I need anymore. I have all the electrical I want, just trying to pick a good saw with good rip capacity and no need to be portable. Space no problem either. Mainly ripping ply all day. Some treated dimensional. Picking between R4520 or the one in the video. Will definitely want to go 220v then it seems. Thanks bud!
My Ridgid cast iron table saw has a issue where the casting is cupped on the motor side of the casting 1/16 dip, they all have at least 1/32 dip because they don't let the cast iron settle before they attach the motor and package it.
That's a nice solid review. I especially liked your comparison of all the saw stop saws. It doesn't make sense to buy a 1.5 hp saw when spending that much money. I have a 1970's Craftsman cast iron saw. The only reason I'd like to upgrade is to have a riving knife. But I have a biesemeyer fence on it and a dust collector hooked up to it that does a decent job. This saw looks exactly like the Delta from Lowes. I'm surprised that the dust collection is good with the saw being open like that.
I had purchased the Delta Table Saw. It took me a day to put that saw together, only to find out that the motor would not start, and the the blade angle adjustment had a broken track. The Customer Service was terrible and I never had a call back or email. After 3 days of waiting, I took the Delta Saw back to the Blue Big Box Store. I am looking for a nice table saw, so I hope maybe this will be a better choice than my Contractor Saw that I am using now.
The Kobalt table saw the fence alignment is just as frustrating . I'm waiting on mine. The Ridged R4560 fit my similar work space. It seems to check the boxes, Price, size. better fence. Thanks for the review.
Did you miss screws? I was supplied only 12 screws of the hp15 to assemble the rails and extension wings and you need 16 total. Am I doing something wrong?
For what it matters, the power switch assembly is what's called a magnetic safety switch. If the saw is on, and power is removed, the switch will disengage, or fail to engage if you attempt to turn the saw on while it is unplugged. In either case the saw will be off when power is restored. Granted, its still a peace of mind thing to push the power off button before plugging it in, its just not needed.
Yeah I know it’s a magnetic one, but it’s just the peace of mind of visually seeing it off that would make me more comfortable. Definitely not a necessity though
@@SpencleyDesignCo Ya, I have been thinking about getting a lock for my switch for when I'm working on the saw. Should force me to check over the saw before trying to turn it on.
@@SpencleyDesignCo I do, but if I leave the shop for a while it's fine to double check I didn't leave anything in a poor state. Adding the step of a lock would remind me to double check that everything was put back together the last time it was taken apart lol
Good review. Very thorough and I enjoyed you going through your opinions on the saw. I really like the extra table room you get with this over a jobsite saw. It's super noticeable if you're not just doing construction. I'm excited to see these out and about. It's just a Ridgid licensed 725T2 but those are good saws so I'm sure these will be too. For anyone that frequently exceeds 30 inch rip capacity I would highly recommend a track saw. It's a great asset to have one around for a lot of different projects.
I’m pretty sure that you have an electrical magnetic power switch- meaning if you lose power/ unplug the saw the switch turns off and won’t turn on till you push the ON button.
It's a repainted Delta saw. $600 vs $750. Deltas may have creeped up in price. I love mine, the Kobalt router table top slipped right into that empty leaf, but you probably know that as well. No doubt, this is great video.
@@SpencleyDesignCo I noticed Rigid underpowered these saws, my delta is 15 amp with soft start and I know there are some motor issues, but my luck has held out so far. I didn't know Rigid didn't cover with the life time warrant? Thanks for that.
The switch on your new saw us to have power to be on if you want to test this plug the song and turn it on unplugged it plugged it back in and you’ll see the switch shuts off automatically for safety reasons
I'm not sure how it's built but if you do a follow up I would appreciate it to get a good description of how the motor is mounted, maybe try to show it, is it direct drive or belt, what's the blade runout actually like, vibration (pass the nickel on edge test?). I have a old delta shop master that I have had for many years. It's ok but being what it is, like jobsite saws, it has issues with the design and construction. Would really like to get as much information on this one as I could.
Nice! It looks like ridgid has been partnering up with delta, as all of the new table saws from ridgid look like the delta versions, just orange. Lowe’s sells that exact same saw, just in a different color.
@@SpencleyDesignCo I have seen all of the new ridgid models out on the Home Depot app, as well as the prices, but the app said “out of stock”. All of them look the same as the deltas. I have had a delta like that, and I do fine furniture, and I loved it! Only issue was that I nicked my finger on the blade twice, so I upgraded to the sawstop contractor saw. It is better in terms of capacity, build quality feels similar, but the dust collection on the sawstop isn’t very good. But other than that, I enjoy my sawstop
@@SpencleyDesignCo they are great! I just wish I bought the cabinet saw rather than the contractor saw. The insides of that thing gets caked with dust all the time… the cabinet saw would be so much better
I can’t get my riving knife flush. I have done the adjustments a 100 times. I may have to return which will be a pain. I will take any advice you can throw my way. Even a number to the manufacturer maybe they could help. Thank you.
Thank you for your video! Excellent professional presentation. This helped me decide to purchase this saw. New subscriber. You are clearly the type of person I’d love to give business to.
Really liked the in depth video. Does this saw have any underneath dust collection? It looks like it has something in the pics online but I cant quite tell.
Actually the one you’re showing at replacing it is the wrong one that would be the next step up it has a different fence on it and a few other minor differences one of which includes the possibility of having the router table already on the side table. The old version run $650 and the old version you’re showing is around $750. I’ve been contemplating picking one up that’s why I already know this.
I had an old Delta model that was a really good model, but I bought it second hand and it was kind of beat up. Then I closed a garage door on it. Oops. So I bought the rigid 4512, which I think is the previous model of this saw. It's a hybridcontractor/cabinet type. It has been pretty good. I have not found an issue with the fence or the table like some, but the workmenship is not what a Delta would be. Sloppy welds and such The thing I hate most is the thin throat plate. Its arrangement makes it very difficult to route duplicate plates like I did for the Delta, so I am stuck with buying their zero clearance plates. I cannot say that I would be making better stuff with Delta, but if I had to do it again i would spend the extra money.
Great review. This is a Delta table saw with a different color scheme and probably manufactured in the same plant. The delta is a good saw so you will be pleased. Thanks
After doing a bit of research myself. It appears TTI is phasing out the Delta name and rebranding with Ridgid. This table saw along with the Delta Cruzer. Great video though man, I appreciate it.
I honestly have no idea. My saw came in a completely unmarked box with no instructions or anything since it’s a prototype version. I don’t have a manual to refer to
Eric, I really appreciate your review of this table saw. I do have a couple of questions. Have you noticed any issues with a dado stack with regards to being limited in how wide of a stack you could use? Do you have any recommendation/suggestion on if I should upgrade the fence on my current Rigid R4512 or use the money towards a better table saw? Currently a Shop Fox W2005 fence system is running around $450 to $550. I'm struggling to justify that cost for just a fence. You make beautiful projects.
so this Ridgid R4560 is what's called "Contractor saw", and as you highlighted in your video its 32" cut capacity that you considered a plus, and it costs around $700, but Metabo C10RJSM which considered jobsite saw and costs around $400, has a 35" capacity cut, and has separate adjustment for blade height and incline and dust collector and . . .. . .......and everything the contractor saw has and plus. I'm now confused what's the advantage of a contractor saw beside being more expensive than a jobsite saw when the jobsite saw can do more and plus than a contractor saw ?
I am looking at purchasing this today. I know this is identical to the delta t2 and the delta t2 has GREAT reviews on its fence. Is this fence just as good? are you still liking this saw after having it for a couple months? have you had to make any aftermarket adjustments?
Did you do any calibrations or adjustments as part of setting up your saw? My R4560 came with the blade out of parallel to the miter slot, with the rear of the blade being about 1mm closer to the miter slot than the front of the blade. Super dangerous in terms of creating kickback. However when I looked at the manual they only gave me instructions for checking this alignment as opposed to setting it, which was kind of weird. Most other saws would have you loosen the trunnion bolts, so I tried that with this, but appears they were drilled to a close fit as opposed to slotted, so you can't scoot the blade assembly left-to-right with respect to the table. There's another vid out there where they have folks messing with the vertical rod couplings. Kind of weird, and there's not enough play in mine to get it to move left-to-right reliably.
Nice to see a review of the R4560, even though it's a pre-production unit. I hope they're able to fix the capacitor/motor issue that's been a problem with the Delta versions, which has kept me from pulling the trigger on it. Otherwise it looks like a great mid-level table saw.
This is the Delta saw with an orange wrapper! I have the Delta personally and is exactly like this but less expensive. I paid $679 for mine at the blue box store in Sept 2022
Are the hand cranks metal or plastic? Delta's version of this saw has metal ones. I don't see any other differences between the Ridgid R4560 and the Delta 36-725T2.
@@SpencleyDesignCo Thanks for responding! I went ahead and purchased the saw. Looking forward to finally replacing my 25-year-old Pro-Tech jobsite saw.
After looking at this at length, I am convinced this saw is either made by Delta or in cooperation with Delta. The Delta 36-725 and 36-725 T2 are identical including the fence. This isn't surprising as the tool industry is as incestuous as it comes. There are only like 3 or 4 actual power tool brands and I bet Delta and Rigid are linked... Probably Milwaukee too
I have the delta and it looks nearly identical in tubular design. The fence looks very similar even the small piece component seems to be on the fence that folds down. I now want to test my stop button. I recall that if the saw is unplugged it will fault to off. This is in case there is a power outage and then it comes back nobody gets hurt. You should try unplugging it while running then plug it back in.
I ordered the R4560 on 9-27; won't be here until mid October. I will be building the saw into my rolling work bench and using the legs for a lower, smaller bench. would you please measure the distance from the top to the point to where the top joins the legs of the bottom portion? Really liked your review. It sold me on the saw. Thank you, Ken
@@SpencleyDesignCo Eric, My saw left GA 2 days ago but it's not scheduled for delivery until 10-19-21. Would you be so kind as to measure the top 1/2 of the saw, from the top to the bottom where the top 1/2's legs end? I can then keep working on my bench. Thank you very much.
@@SpencleyDesignCo Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, about 19 inches will not work. Here's how it can it can be easily measured for an exact measurement. Clamp a 30" or so strip of board so that the bottom edge of the board is across the front of the saw, even with the bottom edge of the top's legs. Then measure from the bottom of the board to the top of the saw. Walla, an exact measurement. I realize it's more effort. However, I really do appreciate your time to do this. Thank you VERY much. The only reason I can think of why it''' take about three weeks for the saw to arrive is that it's not being shipped via UPA or FedEx. Instead it's on a Home Depot truck full of saws with drop offs at several stores. Another reason?
Great video! You give a clear and concise pro-con between job-sight and contractor saws and it is a big difference. Every con you stated, I noticed I agree with. All job-sight saws have most of these downfalls. There are some that stand out. The DeWalt saws are great but very pricey for what it is and the Delta has a far superior before-the-cut distance which is the absolute worst if any job-sight saw... Even the Bosch and Metabo saws suffer here. I can't get over how similar your saw (and I looked at it online in depth) is to the Delta 36-725 T2 which I just bought. I made the same assembly mistake and had the BS on backwards. The for pedal should be on the left side so you can easily access is but you have yours on a mobile platform so no harm, no foul. I reversed mine last night. Just some sweat and a scrape or two... That is before you mount the rails and then it's a big deal.
Again great vid... another question. How long is the front rail? Can't find that info on any site. I am a retired pastor living on a fixed income and have a small shop. Trying to figure out if I can use it easily in the space I have. I have an old Ryobi BT3100 which is 19 years old and running slow. It is in-between your old saw and the new one. Ridgid is coming out with a new portable saw but it will have less work space than I have now. Thank for your help and look forward to see more vids of your work.
@@SpencleyDesignCo Sorry, I must have missed that... When I saw it on the HD site and it didn't have the measurements, I messaged you. Price is 649.00.... Thanks again
This video was shot around March 2021. Due to delays, I was asked to hold the video until September 2021. That explains the suddenly long hair 😀. I’ll have a 6 month review coming out in the next several weeks!
Great vid. I am retired pastor (on a fixed budget) with a small shop and build mostly small items; jewelry boxes, crosses, and items for Church VBS's. I saw where ridgid has also redesigned their contractors saw. It is the R4550. It has a rack and pinion guide like the DeWalt. Any thoughts on it. Thanks and have blessed day.
Thanks for checking out the video, Reginald!
This post solves one of my biggest issue here, "it'll be coming out sometime this spring" when this video was posted September which is fall in northern hemispheres. But I am really curious as to how a channel that has less then 16k subscribers on a video that has less then 3k views... can get his hands on a PRE-PRODUCTION Saw like this.
That being said... I think this video would have been so much more informative if you had compared it against the Delta Contractor Saw 36-725T2 which this Rigid looks like being copied from.
Many many many logistical delays happened due to COVID, but the saw is available for purchase now. It appears to go out of stock every few days.
@@SpencleyDesignCo I would be so interested in a comparison between this Rigid copy and the original Delta version.
I am just a person who occasionally works with wood, not a pro woodworker, so YMMV, but I am super happy with the Delta 725T2 sister of this Ridgid. Lowes put these on sale for $325 last year and I managed to get one at that unicorn price. For me it has completely upped my game, as I previously had a blob of metal that vaguely resembled a table saw. Powerful motor, great fence, no complaints. One note on the power switch: I see Eric being super careful about making sure the power is off while plugging back in, but the switch is magnetic. If you pull out the plug when the saw is running, the power switch is automatically released. If you accidentally press the ON button while unplugged it won't matter at all as this is not a normal mechanical switch. Once you plug it back in the saw will remain off until you hit the on button again.
So update, I ordered and received mine. When I got to home depot we found that the box had been punctured by a forklift. Despite better judgment I took it home. Opened the box and found that the fork did hit and gouged the fence. I called Home Depot they had made a note on their file even before I left the store just in case. I called Ridgid and with no hassle at all they agreed to ship me a new fence it will be here Saturday. I assembled the saw and all the parts were snug and fit as designed. For sure someone could assemble this in an hour to 1.5 hours. Anyway, props to ridgid that was first class customer service. I'll do test cuts to square it up and make sure no other damage on Saturday.
Glad to hear you got it all situated! Assembly would be fairly fast if you didn’t have to film it 🤣
I have the Delta version of this saw. The power switch is designed such that it CAN'T be on until it is pushed and held in for a second after it is powered off - that's why it's a momentary contact and not just an on-off (I assume there is some logic circuitry in there, which probably does the soft-start too). It would have to be badly broken to allow power through without pressing it when you plug it in. My gripe with the power switch is the position of it - I have hit the off lever with my thigh a few times now - grrrr. I may look into relocating it back a bit.
I followed your video on making a router table insert for it - awesome and thank you for a really great idea! It came out great.
I really like this review. Very thorough, and I like that you went over some reasoning as to why someone may or may not want this saw. Pretty sure I'm sold on it, thanks!
Thanks for the feedback, christy! I’ve got a long term review video coming out in the next week about the saw
Hey Eric. This is clearly an orange rebranded version of the Delta 36-725T2 table saw that is available through Lowes. Having had that version (Delta 36-725T2) for almost 2 years now, I can absolutely say it is a great saw for the money. In fact, I challenge anyone to find a better saw for under $1000.
To address your concern about the power switch. It is a magnetic safety switch (latching relay) and if it is unplugged, it is off. The whole point is that if you loose power using it, the switch (latching relay) will "drop out" and then be in the OFF position so that when power is restored if will not start running again. Hope this helps!
Yup, it’s magnetic 🧲
Subscribed. There's an old saying in golf: "It ain't the sticks, it's the guy swinging 'em." You prove that applies in woodworking as well. Your two pieces shown near the end of the video are gorgeous! In a one-car (presumably apartment complex) garage with one outlet and budget tools. Wow. Very, very impressive. Cheers, sir! I look forward to soaking up your past and future content.
I appreciate the genuine support, Mark! Thanks so much!
I believe you have demonstrated the maker is far more important than the equipment. You have built incredible stuff with one outlet and a very basic table saw in an apartment garage. Personally, I look for channels such as yours as I know I will never own a multi-thousand dollar SawStop (although I am sincerely happy for those who can afford the high end equipment and large shops :).
Thanks, Mike! I appreciate the support! There’s A LOT that can be made with “low end” tools
It's an Orange Delta. Everything about this saw including the assembly tools you got with it are identical to the Delta saw at lowes. Same fence and everything. Not a bad saw at all. Great saw at this price point. I built a router lift table for the left side and replaced the sheet metal extension. I plan to replace the table on the other side as well. I made the lift table on my cnc. If you want the file for the lift table let me know. I can cnc you one if you don't have access to cnc.
Id genuinely be curious to know any improvements over the delta saw because it looks super similar for sure!
@@SpencleyDesignCo Hopefully they upgrade the availability. The Delta version tends to be hard to find. I had to drive to a Lowes in another state to get it. Not 1 single unit in my state but the Lowes I went to had five.
@@SpencleyDesignCo Listed for $649 on Home Depot site. Cheaper than the Delta version at Lowes.
My full time job is in the logistics industry and you wouldn’t believe all of the challenges going on now. It’s crazy!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but i think that power button is a magnetic contactor switch. The current running through the saw keeps it switched on. So basically if the power is cut(as in unplugging the saw) , the switch turns off by itself and will only come on if you switch it manually while its plugged in. So for me that wouldn't be an issue. Great vid nonetheless. Cheers!
Yes, it’s magnetic
Sometime around 1999-2001 I bought a Ridgid TS2424. Cast iron top and wings, wheel assembly that can be engaged or not. (120v motor).
The motor hangs off the back so it's a belt drive blade with plenty of power to rip through black walnut or oak. If you can find that model or one like it (ebay?), it's worth buying.
I've used it for everything from making cabinets and rustic furniture, to ripping 4x4's. I made a sled for cutting off an edge of 3" to 4" diameter logs. And another jig to make tenons for log beds frames. Yes, you can do that on a table saw, but always rotate the log clockwise.
So happy to finally see the video on this saw. I just ordered the comparable Delta version basically, it’s twin the other day. I can’t wait to have real dust collection and a true fence. Thank you for being an awesome inspiration. Keep up the great content!
Thanks, Craig! I hope you enjoy that delta!
What model of the delta is the same as this? I'm thinking of buying this but I would rather have the delta name. Thanks 😊
They’re made by the same parent company so it’s likely the exact same saw
I purchased a R4514 from Home Depot during the 2021 Holiday Season to replace a 30 year old K-Mart 10 inch table saw on stationary stand which cost $99.99 back in the day and is kept outdoors undercover with a waterproof BBQ cover for protection from the weather elements. That old saw has given me my money's worth over the years.
Although the R4514 specifies a 30 inch rip, too bad Ridgid uses plastic gears for raising and lowering the blade.
The plastic gears aren’t definitely a bummer
If that is a magnetic switch, don't worry about it. They are literally designed to be OFF unless you press the ON button. Lose power? Switch is in the off position (test this by unplugging it while it is running, then plugging it back in). Press the big red paddle, it's in the off position. It's a safety feature and I have retrofitted all my vintage stationary tools with similar switches because of it.
Yeah I totally get the concept of the magnetic switch, It just makes me feel weird haha
True that, i think that's a magnetic switch.. So no worries plugging it in.. It won't turn on automatically
True, it just makes me feel uncomfortable hah
True, it just makes me feel uncomfortable haha
As someone who has a small workspace and been woodworking for 20+ years, upgrading to a table saw like this is a must! Still have my job site saw and if you need portability and don’t high accuracy they are fine but if you want to make things that need square accurate cuts save your money and make this purchase. I wish I spent the money when I started woodworking, would have saved my time and allowed me to make better projects.
a table saw is super super important in my opinion :)
Thank you for the honest review. While I would never expect perfection for whatever this costs ($600-$800), it's nice to know that you can do the work with it as expected. My dad did decades of pretty impressive work with a 1970's Craftsman Contractor Saw, and I think I knew how to overcome the limitations (or choose projects within the limitations of his saw). I think these Ridgid saws are still very good choices for people unwilling or unable to get a SawStop or professional saw. I want to start building boxes to replace the old drawers in my kitchen, I I think this saw or the R4520 is the sweet spot for me. Subscribed to your channel, I look forward to your next future videos.
Thanks for watching, Scott!
Hey man.. I 100% feel for you. I also have a 1 car garage at my apartment and I also have only ONE 15 amp GFCI outlet to power all my tools. So I only have 3 major things running off the outlet: my portable air conditioner (an absolute must have for Texas), my miter saw, and my DeWalt table saw. Everything else I have to go for battery powered tools. Soon, I will move into a real home (hopefully) and I'll have a hundred outlets! Lol
I feel your pain!
For the power button issue, there is a hole that lines up that you are supposed to place a zip tie or some other form of lock to keep the button in the off position.
We call it "Lockout, Tag-out." You should always Lockout, Tag-out if you are preforming maintenance... do I? No; Unplugging it is enough for me.
I have the Delta branded version of this saw and the table isn’t flat at all, it’s about 0.5mm lower in the center! The square tube sections the fence is riding on aren’t same height which means the fence is pumping into this step all the time. If you buy this saw no matter which branding you choose, checkbit carefully! Other than that this is a great saw at the price point. I upgraded from the Dewalt DWE7491 and it is a major upgrade for not much more money. But I have to say the Dewalt jobsite saw seems to be much better than what you had before…. But it costs only ~$150ish less than the contractor saw.
Now that I’ve had this even longer, I’m seeing a lot of issues with this saw
I currently have the original version of this saw and I hate, HATE hate the fence. It worked great new but I use mine a lot and it quickly became so inconsistent. Right now I am using new insert's in the fence that I ordered online and while it works kind of it has made it VERY stiff. Yes, I've waxed them but I don't want to sand them any and have them go out of adjustment like the originals. I looked at purchasing an aftermarket fence but I could buy a new saw for the price and I really like this saw other than the fence. I wish this saw had been available when I purchased the other. Thanks for sharing this review it will help in my decision of what I buy next!
Sure thing Derek! Thanks for checking out the video. Sorry to hear you’re having issues with your fence!
If your still looking for a portable saw with high accuracy that you can use for rough cutting as well
as furniture building, check out the Dewalt DWE7491RS. It has a 32.5" rip capacity and also has the
best fence on the market. It is based on a bomb proof rack and pinion system.
A lot of people love that saw!
Dude, you don't need to tell if it's on or off. Unplug it, plug it back in and it's off. Automatically. It won't go back on just by plugging it in. Kinda makes your "issues: with the power button moot, don't it?
I'll keep my Ridgid TS3612, they really went downhill after the 3612. My 3612 is wired into a 220V outlet, plenty of power for all those heavy ripping duties.
The Sawstop Contractor saw is 120V or 240V, you simply rewire the motor for 240V once you move to a location that you can use it that way.
A side note...many saws equipped with a multi-voltage motor doesn't give you maximum HP unless its wired up to a 220V outlet, so on a 1.5HP saw on 120V, you might be getting 1HP max.
Thanks for watching!
Interesting review! It would have been nice to see a detailed look at the motor and trunnion assembly. I have the older version of this saw and it is not the best design out there. Aligning it to cut straight is a huge PITA. Everyone knows about the fence issues but the motor trunnion is a weakest link on that model. The other issue is Rigid used proprietary parts that you can't just buy anyware and when you need it it costs a fortune to replace. I not knocking Ridgid as a whole I have a few of their other power tools corded and cordless! When it comes to a Table saw I think you get what you pay for. In this case the $649 price tag Ridgid is asking I would not expect cabinet saw results nor would I expect longevity under daily use.
Agreed! Definitely are getting a $650 saw which at the end of the day, you can’t ask the world of
Great review! Only item that i do not like with this ridgid saw from what i can see is it no longer carries there lifetime LSA warranty. That has come in handy several times for me. I've also found my local homedepot is a repair center even though ridgid does not advertise this. i've been looking at this saw as an upgrade and came from the same jobsite saw you previously had. It actually had the same blade height adjustment failure. I took it to homedepot and they fixed it free of charge. I've been disappointed with my jobsite saw since the day i bought it. My father has what appears to be the same saw, but a model older and the build quality is significantly better. From the aluminum cast table to the blade the stand, everything was more robust.
Thanks for checking out the video, Michael
Your old saw had a built it wobbling dado stack 😅 what a great included value feature!
Seriously though those things are terrifying now that I know that they exist.
Thanks for the great content man 👍
I just bought the R4513 at a yard sale for 75 bux. It didn't have the rip fence so now it's turned into a 200 dollar TS. I love the portability but I could tell without even using it that it's not going to be perfect, consistent cuts. It's ok tho because, I am the butcher from Dutch Hill 😆
I believe this saw will not start up once plugged in. …. So if you blow a breaker for example and then reset it. You’ll have to turn the saw back on. You can try it by running the saw. Un plug it. Plug it back in. If it doesn’t start up then other than the habit of checking the switch. Your good to go.
Seems you use your board faced wide mitre but cut through it a lot. Ever consider adding some pre made sacrifice blocks from scrap?
Great video. I like the sawstop comparison at the end. I have the same issue with having a small shop. Do I buy the SS jobsite now knowing that in a couple of years I want to get a bigger place where I may be able to fit a contractor saw or use the Skil TS I have now until I move. I got back and forth everyday. Great vid though!
I know that feeling! It really is a tough decision!
Great review. After watching I'm totally ready to upgrade from my Skil table saw to this. When you showed how much the blade wobbles it was an aha moment. That and always measuring the fence to both ends of the blade. What a hassle. Your reviews and very detailed and much appreciated.
Thanks Todd! I appreciate the kind feedback!
Your saw has a magnetic switch. If it you disconnect it, or it loses power it should not start when plugged back in or the power comes back on.
Also, I had the Delta version of this saw and had 2 problems with it. One issue was the table was not very flat. The big problem was the fact that the arbor assembly had play in it and my zero clearance insert looked like the one from your old saw. I could grab the arbor nut and rock the assembly back and forth. I went to my local Lowes and the display model did that same thing. I returned it and went with a different saw. I bought a Fusion F2, had problems with that and returned it. I then ended up with a Shop Fox W1837 and have been very happy with it.
What should you buy? Well, I built a mobile base for my saw with built in extension tables and storage. Got a real fence for it and all is well. At the time I did not want to get another job site saw either. The contractor version of the Saw Stop was a no go for me due to the external motor. A full cabinet saw was a no go as I need it to be mobile. The Delta, and then Shop Fox W1837 both work well with my mobile table idea. However, now that I look at my table, I could have easily built the able around the Saw Stop jobsite saw, and still used the same fence setup that I have now. I have a Jet Xacta rail kit with 53" rip capacity and a Very Super Cool Tools fence. It is a great setup. Anyway, just wanted to share this info. There are 3 big drawbacks to jobsite saws. The stability of the saw on the stand, the small table surface area and the bad fences. I could have resolved all of those issues with my mobile stand and had the safety features of the Saw Stop.
Yup, I know it’s a magnetic switch 😀
Sawstop is like festool. More of a flex then a need.
That’s one way to look at it
If someone is just getting into woodworking and considering buying a new job-site saw - don’t. Buy a quality, used contractor saw that is in good condition. You’ll pay about the same and will get much more saw for the money.
So, I finally pulled the trigger today. It took me a while but finally convinced myself. It should be here sometime next week. Let’s see how this goes.
New tools are always exciting!
The power switch on that unit can't be turned on without power, so that's a plus.
Thank you for the insight
I will say upgrading my garage outlet to 220v for my R4512 has been amazing and it hasn’t really bogged down with its 1 1/2 hp motor. Wish that was an option for you!
As do I! I don’t have any access at all the the breaker panel
Where could I find information on this? I am not an electrical guy, so not sure on how to get the saw rewired to 220v.
@@danielbrown9368 so the panel on the inside of the saw has a diagram for how to hook it up. You just need a 220 cable and plug end. If you’re not comfortable making your own cable I’d ask around for a local shop or electrician to help you out.
@@CamachoDean Ah sweet. I should be ok with a diagram. ("should") I just don't have any skill to go off script for sure. My issue is my DeWalt 745 doesn't have the strength I need anymore. I have all the electrical I want, just trying to pick a good saw with good rip capacity and no need to be portable. Space no problem either. Mainly ripping ply all day. Some treated dimensional. Picking between R4520 or the one in the video. Will definitely want to go 220v then it seems. Thanks bud!
My Ridgid cast iron table saw has a issue where the casting is cupped on the motor side of the casting 1/16 dip, they all have at least 1/32 dip because they don't let the cast iron settle before they attach the motor and package it.
That’s a bummer
That's a nice solid review. I especially liked your comparison of all the saw stop saws. It doesn't make sense to buy a 1.5 hp saw when spending that much money. I have a 1970's Craftsman cast iron saw. The only reason I'd like to upgrade is to have a riving knife. But I have a biesemeyer fence on it and a dust collector hooked up to it that does a decent job. This saw looks exactly like the Delta from Lowes. I'm surprised that the dust collection is good with the saw being open like that.
I was pretty shocked about the dust collection too! I’m working on my 6 month review that’s coming soon!
I had purchased the Delta Table Saw. It took me a day to put that saw together, only to find out that the motor would not start, and the the blade angle adjustment had a broken track.
The Customer Service was terrible and I never had a call back or email. After 3 days of waiting, I took the Delta Saw back to the Blue Big Box Store.
I am looking for a nice table saw, so I hope maybe this will be a better choice than my Contractor Saw that I am using now.
That sounds like a rough experience!
The Kobalt table saw the fence alignment is just as frustrating . I'm waiting on mine.
The Ridged R4560 fit my similar work space. It seems to check the boxes, Price, size. better fence. Thanks for the review.
Sure thing! Thanks for checking out the video
Did you miss screws? I was supplied only 12 screws of the hp15 to assemble the rails and extension wings and you need 16 total. Am I doing something wrong?
For what it matters, the power switch assembly is what's called a magnetic safety switch. If the saw is on, and power is removed, the switch will disengage, or fail to engage if you attempt to turn the saw on while it is unplugged. In either case the saw will be off when power is restored. Granted, its still a peace of mind thing to push the power off button before plugging it in, its just not needed.
Yeah I know it’s a magnetic one, but it’s just the peace of mind of visually seeing it off that would make me more comfortable. Definitely not a necessity though
@@SpencleyDesignCo Ya, I have been thinking about getting a lock for my switch for when I'm working on the saw. Should force me to check over the saw before trying to turn it on.
You don’t unplug it?
@@SpencleyDesignCo I do, but if I leave the shop for a while it's fine to double check I didn't leave anything in a poor state. Adding the step of a lock would remind me to double check that everything was put back together the last time it was taken apart lol
Very good point!
I have the Delta 36-725T2 and it is identical to that Rigid saw except for color and logo. I love my Delta saw over the job site saw that it replaced.
Yeah it definitely looks like a pretty similar saw!
The switch is magnetic. It will not start back up when you plug it in. The Ridgid is the same as the Delta 36-725 T2, and the Delta is $600.
Yup
The delta is the same price as this saw.
Yes
Good review. Very thorough and I enjoyed you going through your opinions on the saw.
I really like the extra table room you get with this over a jobsite saw. It's super noticeable if you're not just doing construction. I'm excited to see these out and about. It's just a Ridgid licensed 725T2 but those are good saws so I'm sure these will be too.
For anyone that frequently exceeds 30 inch rip capacity I would highly recommend a track saw. It's a great asset to have one around for a lot of different projects.
Thanks for checking out the video, David!
Great video! Do you know if the fence on the new model is improved over Ridgid’s older models? I’ve heard a lot of complaints about the fence. Thanks!
Thanks, Steve. I haven’t personally used other ridgid saws comparable to this, but I haven’t had any issues with the fence
I’m pretty sure that you have an electrical magnetic power switch- meaning if you lose power/ unplug the saw the switch turns off and won’t turn on till you push the ON button.
Yes, it’s a magnetic switch
It's a repainted Delta saw. $600 vs $750. Deltas may have creeped up in price. I love mine, the Kobalt router table top slipped right into that empty leaf, but you probably know that as well. No doubt, this is great video.
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately the saw is starting to die now
@@SpencleyDesignCo I noticed Rigid underpowered these saws, my delta is 15 amp with soft start and I know there are some motor issues, but my luck has held out so far. I didn't know Rigid didn't cover with the life time warrant? Thanks for that.
It’s not covered by their warranty since it’s made by a different overseas manufacturer
Thanks for the review. Just picked up saw but haven't assembled it yet. Can you share what blades have you been using with the stock riving knife?
Thanks for checking out the video! Here’s a link to all of the blades and other items I use: www.spencleydesignco.com/tools-we-use
Thanks for you video, I purchase the equivalent DELTA 36-725T2 few weeks ago, your video convince me , great machine great price, Thanks
Cool beans! Enjoy the new saw. Good choice not picking the orange one
I had the R4520, which unfortunately broke on me this weekend. I'm looking for a replacement and this is on my short list
I wouldn’t suggest it, mine is dying now
The switch on your new saw us to have power to be on if you want to test this plug the song and turn it on unplugged it plugged it back in and you’ll see the switch shuts off automatically for safety reasons
Yes
I'm not sure how it's built but if you do a follow up I would appreciate it to get a good description of how the motor is mounted, maybe try to show it, is it direct drive or belt, what's the blade runout actually like, vibration (pass the nickel on edge test?).
I have a old delta shop master that I have had for many years. It's ok but being what it is, like jobsite saws, it has issues with the design and construction. Would really like to get as much information on this one as I could.
I’ve got a 6 month review coming out shortly 😀
Nice! It looks like ridgid has been partnering up with delta, as all of the new table saws from ridgid look like the delta versions, just orange. Lowe’s sells that exact same saw, just in a different color.
It definitely looks similar!
@@SpencleyDesignCo I have seen all of the new ridgid models out on the Home Depot app, as well as the prices, but the app said “out of stock”. All of them look the same as the deltas. I have had a delta like that, and I do fine furniture, and I loved it! Only issue was that I nicked my finger on the blade twice, so I upgraded to the sawstop contractor saw. It is better in terms of capacity, build quality feels similar, but the dust collection on the sawstop isn’t very good. But other than that, I enjoy my sawstop
I can’t wait to upgrade to a sawstop! 😀
@@SpencleyDesignCo they are great! I just wish I bought the cabinet saw rather than the contractor saw. The insides of that thing gets caked with dust all the time… the cabinet saw would be so much better
I hope to grab that 5hp cabinet saw once I’m out of the apartment!
It's other model name is Delta 36-725t2. I have it and I'm really happy for the upgrade over a contractor saw
Glad to hear you’re enjoying the saw!
Has anyone tried plugging it in while it is on just to see? I only ask cause with soft start usually there is also low voltage protection.
I can’t get my riving knife flush. I have done the adjustments a 100 times. I may have to return which will be a pain. I will take any advice you can throw my way. Even a number to the manufacturer maybe they could help. Thank you.
Oh man it took absolutely FOREVER to get that riving knife set up. Honestly, took me several hours to do it
Thank you for your video! Excellent professional presentation. This helped me decide to purchase this saw. New subscriber. You are clearly the type of person I’d love to give business to.
Did you add wheels to the wood base you made? I have the Delta have a hard time with moving it around. Great video!
Thanks, Tony! No, I don’t ever need to move the saw, so the base I built just raises it up since I’m 6’4”
Really liked the in depth video. Does this saw have any underneath dust collection? It looks like it has something in the pics online but I cant quite tell.
Thanks for checking it out! Yes, there is a 2 1/2” dust port on the back
Just a little tip buy a CMT saw blade factory blades are super cheap you’re buy a saw not a saw blade when you buy a table saw
Oh for sure! I’d never use the factory blade haha
Yeah I learned it the hard way lol nice table saw
You’re better off using a stick of butter than you are trying to use a stock blade lol
If you want to make the trip up to the Canton area, I can let you compare my delta that looks almost the same.
I appreciate the offer, but I’ve got a friend here in Columbus that has the same one 😀
Perfect perspective sir. Thank you for your expertise in this matter. Great video!!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you!!! Great review! Very helpful cheers!
Actually the one you’re showing at replacing it is the wrong one that would be the next step up it has a different fence on it and a few other minor differences one of which includes the possibility of having the router table already on the side table. The old version run $650 and the old version you’re showing is around $750. I’ve been contemplating picking one up that’s why I already know this.
Thanks Duane!
I had an old Delta model that was a really good model, but I bought it second hand and it was kind of beat up. Then I closed a garage door on it. Oops. So I bought the rigid 4512, which I think is the previous model of this saw. It's a hybridcontractor/cabinet type. It has been pretty good. I have not found an issue with the fence or the table like some, but the workmenship is not what a Delta would be. Sloppy welds and such The thing I hate most is the thin throat plate. Its arrangement makes it very difficult to route duplicate plates like I did for the Delta, so I am stuck with buying their zero clearance plates. I cannot say that I would be making better stuff with Delta, but if I had to do it again i would spend the extra money.
I hope you don’t close the garage door on another one 😀
Great review. This is a Delta table saw with a different color scheme and probably manufactured in the same plant. The delta is a good saw so you will be pleased. Thanks
Thanks for checking out the video, Frank!
After doing a bit of research myself. It appears TTI is phasing out the Delta name and rebranding with Ridgid. This table saw along with the Delta Cruzer. Great video though man, I appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
It looks a lot like my Delta. The upgrade is well worth it! Next, on to the sawstop!
I talk all about the sawstop at the end 😜
Awesome video Eric. Helping me get one step closer to knowing what I'm upgrading to
Hopefully I helped shed a little light on the choice!
Btw, any info on whether it can be rewired to 220v? I know the first gen Delta could but they took it out on the T2, so probably same with this saw.
I honestly have no idea. My saw came in a completely unmarked box with no instructions or anything since it’s a prototype version. I don’t have a manual to refer to
Awesome what you're able to get done in that small arse room, just ordered 40th anniversary grizzly 5hp.. can't wait!
Thanks for your he video, helped me decide on my next upgrade
Glad I could help! Are you going to pick this one up?
Is the fence stable? It’s so hard to find a table saw with a decent fence under this category. Very informative. Thanks.
I talk more about the fence in my long term review: th-cam.com/video/hX4UJOPpoQk/w-d-xo.html
Eric, I really appreciate your review of this table saw. I do have a couple of questions. Have you noticed any issues with a dado stack with regards to being limited in how wide of a stack you could use? Do you have any recommendation/suggestion on if I should upgrade the fence on my current Rigid R4512 or use the money towards a better table saw? Currently a Shop Fox W2005 fence system is running around $450 to $550. I'm struggling to justify that cost for just a fence. You make beautiful projects.
Thanks for watching! The dado stack maxes out at around 1/2”
What is that angle gage I see you setting your blade bevel with? Looks interesting. Also, how easy is it to remove/replace the riving knife?
Riving knife is removed with a simple lever. It’s very easy. That angle gauge is something old that I don’t believe is made anymore
so this Ridgid R4560 is what's called "Contractor saw", and as you highlighted in your video its 32" cut capacity that you considered a plus, and it costs around $700, but Metabo C10RJSM which considered jobsite saw and costs around $400, has a 35" capacity cut, and has separate adjustment for blade height and incline and dust collector and . . .. . .......and everything the contractor saw has and plus.
I'm now confused what's the advantage of a contractor saw beside being more expensive than a jobsite saw when the jobsite saw can do more and plus than a contractor saw ?
I have not used that metabo saw
What are the dimensions of the wings on this saw?
I am looking at purchasing this today. I know this is identical to the delta t2 and the delta t2 has GREAT reviews on its fence. Is this fence just as good? are you still liking this saw after having it for a couple months? have you had to make any aftermarket adjustments?
It appears to be the exact same saw. I haven’t had any issues with mine yet. I’ve got a long term review coming out in the next few weeks!
Great presentation, and information. Thanks for the video!
Thank you very much! I’ll have a more in depth 6 month review coming soon!
Did you do any calibrations or adjustments as part of setting up your saw? My R4560 came with the blade out of parallel to the miter slot, with the rear of the blade being about 1mm closer to the miter slot than the front of the blade. Super dangerous in terms of creating kickback. However when I looked at the manual they only gave me instructions for checking this alignment as opposed to setting it, which was kind of weird. Most other saws would have you loosen the trunnion bolts, so I tried that with this, but appears they were drilled to a close fit as opposed to slotted, so you can't scoot the blade assembly left-to-right with respect to the table. There's another vid out there where they have folks messing with the vertical rod couplings. Kind of weird, and there's not enough play in mine to get it to move left-to-right reliably.
I did not have to adjust my blade. I’m not sure where that adjustment would be
I was having trouble figuring out how to put the front and back rails on.. I watched you a few times and now get it. Thanks
Nice to see a review of the R4560, even though it's a pre-production unit. I hope they're able to fix the capacitor/motor issue that's been a problem with the Delta versions, which has kept me from pulling the trigger on it. Otherwise it looks like a great mid-level table saw.
I’ve been using it hard for over 6 months, and so far no issues! 😀
@@SpencleyDesignCo That's encouraging, because the saw itself is very well regarded and has a great bang for the buck.
I’ll have my full 6 month review coming out in the next few weeks or so
@@SpencleyDesignCo Great - look forward to it!
Thanks for the support, Erik!
That’s the delta saw from Lowe’s that came out like 6 years ago
This is a ridgid that’s sold at Home Depot
Mine just arrived today!
Awesome! Did you upgrade or is this your first saw?
@@SpencleyDesignCo First saw! I’m excited to start this woodworking journey. Got a bunch of projects in mind.
Well you’re in for a treat! It’s a fantastic saw to start out with! Certainly a better starting point than what I started with 🤣
This is the Delta saw with an orange wrapper! I have the Delta personally and is exactly like this but less expensive. I paid $679 for mine at the blue box store in Sept 2022
Yup. It’s made by the same manufacturer
What are the assembled dimensions of the saw? Particularly, the width? (I have a narrow one car garage and not sure it will reasonably fit.)
It’s about 60” wide
Are the hand cranks metal or plastic? Delta's version of this saw has metal ones. I don't see any other differences between the Ridgid R4560 and the Delta 36-725T2.
They’re metal. The saw is made by the same parent company but I’d have to have both saws side by side to say if there’s anything different
@@SpencleyDesignCo Thanks for responding! I went ahead and purchased the saw. Looking forward to finally replacing my 25-year-old Pro-Tech jobsite saw.
Well that’s exciting! I’m sure there will be a lot of modern conveniences!
After looking at this at length, I am convinced this saw is either made by Delta or in cooperation with Delta. The Delta 36-725 and 36-725 T2 are identical including the fence. This isn't surprising as the tool industry is as incestuous as it comes. There are only like 3 or 4 actual power tool brands and I bet Delta and Rigid are linked... Probably Milwaukee too
They definitely look similar!! I’d love to get the two saws side-by-side
I have the delta and it looks nearly identical in tubular design. The fence looks very similar even the small piece component seems to be on the fence that folds down. I now want to test my stop button. I recall that if the saw is unplugged it will fault to off. This is in case there is a power outage and then it comes back nobody gets hurt. You should try unplugging it while running then plug it back in.
The switch has a magnetic reset of f the power goes out.
I ordered the R4560 on 9-27; won't be here until mid October. I will be building the saw into my rolling work bench and using the legs for a lower, smaller bench. would you please measure the distance from the top to the point to where the top joins the legs of the bottom portion? Really liked your review. It sold me on the saw. Thank you, Ken
Thank you Ken!
@@SpencleyDesignCo Eric, My saw left GA 2 days ago but it's not scheduled for delivery until 10-19-21. Would you be so kind as to measure the top 1/2 of the saw, from the top to the bottom where the top 1/2's legs end? I can then keep working on my bench. Thank you very much.
It’s about 19”
@@SpencleyDesignCo Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, about 19 inches will not work. Here's how it can it can be easily measured for an exact measurement. Clamp a 30" or so strip of board so that the bottom edge of the board is across the front of the saw, even with the bottom edge of the top's legs. Then measure from the bottom of the board to the top of the saw. Walla, an exact measurement. I realize it's more effort. However, I really do appreciate your time to do this. Thank you VERY much.
The only reason I can think of why it''' take about three weeks for the saw to arrive is that it's not being shipped via UPA or FedEx. Instead it's on a Home Depot truck full of saws with drop offs at several stores. Another reason?
I can’t seem to find a a vacuum adapter. Can you share a link?
For connecting to the table saw?
Quick question, Are you able to get a full dado stack on the arbor?
I’m able to get about a 5/8” stack on there. 3/4” fits, but the nut has very little to grab onto
@@SpencleyDesignCo thank you for the update
Sure thing
According to the Home Depot website it can fit a 13/16 dado.
Great video! You give a clear and concise pro-con between job-sight and contractor saws and it is a big difference. Every con you stated, I noticed I agree with. All job-sight saws have most of these downfalls. There are some that stand out. The DeWalt saws are great but very pricey for what it is and the Delta has a far superior before-the-cut distance which is the absolute worst if any job-sight saw... Even the Bosch and Metabo saws suffer here. I can't get over how similar your saw (and I looked at it online in depth) is to the Delta 36-725 T2 which I just bought. I made the same assembly mistake and had the BS on backwards. The for pedal should be on the left side so you can easily access is but you have yours on a mobile platform so no harm, no foul. I reversed mine last night. Just some sweat and a scrape or two... That is before you mount the rails and then it's a big deal.
Thanks JJ!
I love my r4512 but I might try and buy that new fence for mine
Does your current fence have issues?
Again great vid... another question. How long is the front rail? Can't find that info on any site. I am a retired pastor living on a fixed income and have a small shop. Trying to figure out if I can use it easily in the space I have. I have an old Ryobi BT3100 which is 19 years old and running slow. It is in-between your old saw and the new one. Ridgid is coming out with a new portable saw but it will have less work space than I have now. Thank for your help and look forward to see more vids of your work.
I thought it covered that in the video, but I just measured and it’s about 63”x32”
@@SpencleyDesignCo Sorry, I must have missed that... When I saw it on the HD site and it didn't have the measurements, I messaged you. Price is 649.00.... Thanks again
No worries!
If it’s a clone of the Delta 36-725T2 then the switch is magnetic and will not turn on when plugging in.
Yup, it’s a magnetic switch but still feels odd getting used to it
Hello from western Ohio. Nice to have someone in the neighborhood. Nice video, sorry I just found today...i will subscribe today.
Awesome! Thank you very much!
Is that a magnetic switch...if so it won't engage unless it's plugged in
Yup, it still just feels weird though
While I'm typing "why you get another ridgid saw"......you say "I know what you're about to ask".
Haha
From a ridgid fan
My garage is all orange
It’s like I could read your mind!
How about the capacity for Dado blades you didn't talk a that.
You can find all the numeric specifics on the product page