You just upset my lady in the corner and I am now listening to Brown Girl In The Ring. Anyway, a great video as usual and very interesting. Thanks Chris
Wonderful to see the inner glory of this Chris. Thanks for the channel link. I had an idea it 'might' be an ozone generator before I bought it though I wasn't 100%. Mike 'the oracle' Barker suggested it may well be one... Mine (the second one) does have a label on it, and is slightly differently laid out, with a standard type fuse holder, rather than the ceramic affair you have with that one. The selector switch has four positions, and another three 'OFF' positions in between each numbered selector. The metal makers label on mine says: TACK AIR CONDITONING LTD OZONAIR HOUSE (yes really!) LONGMOORE ST LONDON SW1 TYPE 5R - REF 6651 - VOLTS 230 - FREQ 50 It also has another label underneath that says DEVICE MUST BE USED SIX FEET FROM THE GROUND They do smell really rather wonderful in use don't they? 🙃
I thought it was an Orgone Accumulator. Paul and I did some research early February and came up with F.Graucob as the manufacturer or at least the holding company, branded as Tack Air, they also made those cigarette vending machines you used to see outside newsagents and railway stations. In fact, a case vs F.Graucob (L'Estrange v F Graucob Ltd) was a landmark decision in UK contract law.
Just when I thought Chris had discarded vintage me into the Grey-beard (Gray?) rabbit hole vortex, he comes back with yet more nonsense. Thanks, it's hard not to love you sir ♥
I remember my mother once had an ozone generator, in the days when such a thing was commonly thought to be healthy. Apparently, it's been discovered that the seaside smell is not ozone, but dimethyl sulphide, farted out by plankton. Who knew? Interesting device. Thanks Chris. Edit: I wonder which is more dangerous: the dust that was in it or the ozone it generates? My money is on the ozone.
So, not the ultrasonic ashtray reported missing from the Tardis. The fuse is similar to fuses used in old electrical boards known as bee hive fuses. Oh! I do like to be by the sea side. Is it Mylar or is it Mica? Very entertaining video on a Sunday night. Thanks Chris. Peter C
Hello Peter. That’s interesting on the fuse holder I haven’t seen one before. I have to say not sure on the Mylar or Mica. I thought mica was a mineral not sure about Mylar do you know how to spot the difference?
@@allthegearnoidea6752 Hi Simon, Mylar being a plastic would feel like any other plastic I suspect. I've only seen it in reels of film.The television cabinets at the Ultra factory where I was apprenticed had a wood grain transfered fron Mylar film to the plastic cabinets by heated rollers. Mylar was introduced in the mid fifties. Mica is frangible and opaque. Mica was commonly used to isolate metal housed power transistors from heatsinks, especially TO3 outlines, eg 2N3055 . It is split like Welsh slate into sheets. You are right in saying Mica is a mineral. Best wishes Peter
They have various uses some real and some quackery. Ozone can be quite toxic and is a very strong sterilising agent. They can be used to clean smells away. There was an idea that ozone choline smell gave health benefits as it smells a bit like sea air. I find it quite overpowering and it’s known to cause breathing difficulties.
Hi Doug. They had home units using exposed short wavelength UV tubes back in the early 1960's for flooding your entire home with Ozone. UV light is still used for medical sterilization apps.
interesting device I too have never seen one either but I did have a large wooden box with what looked like an electric bell without the bell. And a transformer it s purpose was I believe to give yourself electric shocks
Well there has always been a lot of quackery surrounding these type of devices. I remembered those ionisers being very popular again in the 80. The modern ones use capacitor diode multipliers and produce just negative ions.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 The quackery aspect discredited the benefits of creating trace amounts of ozone. Almost all the modern HEPA style air cleaners with an "ioniser" are secretly using it as a trace ozone generator by using a bipolar arrangement to deliberately create a controlled amount of corona discharge. Just enough to freshen the air without being detectable as ozone and the exciting molecular medley of short lived active air molecules they also produce.
It is 4 position switch with an off state between each position. It changes the tapping on the transformer primarily allowing the voltage on the secondary and the amount of Ozone generated to be controlled. The testing was done at maximum setting 4.
Could double as an anti -fart smell remover ! Nothing like the smell of ozone like in the London underground / tube. Smells a lot like the typical American subway minus the added urine aroma , well sometimes.
It’s funny I work a lot in railway depots and they have 25Kv overhead lines but I haven’t ever noticed the ozone smell. But when is dry my hai stand on end.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 On third rail type transit where one rail is the hot side of the power supply you will notice it in a subway location only and never outdoors.
@@hestheMaster we have a lot of third rail installed outside I am constantly having to step over it. It’s a pain. The London Underground system is a forth rail system rather than third rail. Third rail uses the running rail as the traction return. Forth rail has a dedicated hot and dedicated traction return plus the two running rails. My main job is interlocking these systems.
That was exciting with that high voltage, could almost smell it here... Nice one Chris .. and Paul!
You just upset my lady in the corner and I am now listening to Brown Girl In The Ring. Anyway, a great video as usual and very interesting. Thanks Chris
Im putting mine on Mute Now
I bet your not the the only one LOL
Wonderful to see the inner glory of this Chris. Thanks for the channel link.
I had an idea it 'might' be an ozone generator before I bought it though I wasn't 100%. Mike 'the oracle' Barker suggested it may well be one...
Mine (the second one) does have a label on it, and is slightly differently laid out, with a standard type fuse holder, rather than the ceramic affair you have with that one.
The selector switch has four positions, and another three 'OFF' positions in between each numbered selector.
The metal makers label on mine says:
TACK AIR CONDITONING LTD
OZONAIR HOUSE (yes really!)
LONGMOORE ST
LONDON SW1
TYPE 5R - REF 6651 - VOLTS 230 - FREQ 50
It also has another label underneath that says
DEVICE MUST BE USED SIX FEET FROM THE GROUND
They do smell really rather wonderful in use don't they? 🙃
I wish we new the age of the device. I probably skipped some important stuff in this video but I had a plane ✈️ to catch.
I thought it was an Orgone Accumulator. Paul and I did some research early February and came up with F.Graucob as the manufacturer or at least the holding company, branded as Tack Air, they also made those cigarette vending machines you used to see outside newsagents and railway stations. In fact, a case vs F.Graucob (L'Estrange v F Graucob Ltd) was a landmark decision in UK contract law.
A speaker with a build in ozone generator, if you then play sea noises, and close your eyes, you got yourself a very cheap vacation.
Just when I thought Chris had discarded vintage me into the Grey-beard (Gray?) rabbit hole vortex, he comes back with yet more nonsense. Thanks, it's hard not to love you sir ♥
We have to do our bit for the grey beards out there. Thanks for watching and comments my best regards Chris
I remember my mother once had an ozone generator, in the days when such a thing was commonly thought to be healthy. Apparently, it's been discovered that the seaside smell is not ozone, but dimethyl sulphide, farted out by plankton. Who knew? Interesting device. Thanks Chris.
Edit: I wonder which is more dangerous: the dust that was in it or the ozone it generates? My money is on the ozone.
Farting plankton there’s a thought! Thanks for watching. Best regards Chris
So, not the ultrasonic ashtray reported missing from the Tardis. The fuse is similar to fuses used in old electrical boards known as bee hive fuses. Oh! I do like to be by the sea side. Is it Mylar or is it Mica?
Very entertaining video on a Sunday night. Thanks Chris.
Peter C
Hello Peter. That’s interesting on the fuse holder I haven’t seen one before. I have to say not sure on the Mylar or Mica. I thought mica was a mineral not sure about Mylar do you know how to spot the difference?
@@allthegearnoidea6752 Hi Simon, Mylar being a plastic would feel like any other plastic I suspect. I've only seen it in reels of film.The television cabinets at the Ultra factory where I was apprenticed had a wood grain transfered fron Mylar film to the plastic cabinets by heated rollers. Mylar was introduced in the mid fifties.
Mica is frangible and opaque. Mica was commonly used to isolate metal housed power transistors from heatsinks, especially TO3 outlines, eg 2N3055 . It is split like Welsh slate into sheets. You are right in saying Mica is a mineral.
Best wishes
Peter
@@peterc2150 I’m pretty sure it’s mica based on your description. Thanks regards Chris
A fun and interesting video. Thank you. PS - It needs a neon light to indicate ON.
Neon lights are cool. But you can definitely tell when it’s on it soon stinks the room out.
Sounds great
Ioniser big Clive clue gave it away?
Every home should have one?! Unless near the sea of course?
I've never seen an ozone generator before Chris. Any idea what the application would have been for this device?
Those things are been around for a long time and are still available, it is mostly scam I believe.
They have various uses some real and some quackery. Ozone can be quite toxic and is a very strong sterilising agent. They can be used to clean smells away. There was an idea that ozone choline smell gave health benefits as it smells a bit like sea air. I find it quite overpowering and it’s known to cause breathing difficulties.
@@msylvain59 ozone does work very well for deodorising and sterilisation
Hi Doug. They had home units using exposed short wavelength UV tubes back in the early 1960's for flooding your entire home with Ozone. UV light is still used for medical sterilization apps.
I tend to create a lot of ozone after a curry. 😭 Great video.
Thanks for sharing LOL. Best regards Chris
You took the cover off and I still don't know what it is. Ioniser? Clive would like it.
Paused at 2:01, My guess is vintage ioniser. 🤔
Yeah, btw, I lump ozone gens and ion doodads together 😜
I'll pass a link of the video to BC :)
interesting device I too have never seen one either but I did have a large wooden box with what looked like an electric bell without the bell. And a transformer it s purpose was I believe to give yourself electric shocks
Yes electronic sock therapy was another very popular form of therapy back in the day.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 I've never tried electric socks!
I wonder who and what the market was for these. Surely the general public weren't particularly interested.
Well there has always been a lot of quackery surrounding these type of devices. I remembered those ionisers being very popular again in the 80. The modern ones use capacitor diode multipliers and produce just negative ions.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 The quackery aspect discredited the benefits of creating trace amounts of ozone. Almost all the modern HEPA style air cleaners with an "ioniser" are secretly using it as a trace ozone generator by using a bipolar arrangement to deliberately create a controlled amount of corona discharge. Just enough to freshen the air without being detectable as ozone and the exciting molecular medley of short lived active air molecules they also produce.
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What does the switch do? What position was it in for the testing? I wonder how these were marketed. Is there a company name on the unit?
It is 4 position switch with an off state between each position. It changes the tapping on the transformer primarily allowing the voltage on the secondary and the amount of Ozone generated to be controlled. The testing was done at maximum setting 4.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 Thanks, that makes sense, sorry if I missed that in the video.
With no current limiting at all! Safe! NOT!
Not safe but fun. I may try and determine the short circuit current.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 yes, that might be interesting. 50mA my guess
Could double as an anti -fart smell remover ! Nothing like the smell of ozone like in the London underground / tube.
Smells a lot like the typical American subway minus the added urine aroma , well sometimes.
It’s funny I work a lot in railway depots and they have 25Kv overhead lines but I haven’t ever noticed the ozone smell. But when is dry my hai stand on end.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 On third rail type transit where one rail is the hot side of the power supply you will notice it in a subway location only and never outdoors.
@@hestheMaster we have a lot of third rail installed outside I am constantly having to step over it. It’s a pain. The London Underground system is a forth rail system rather than third rail. Third rail uses the running rail as the traction return. Forth rail has a dedicated hot and dedicated traction return plus the two running rails. My main job is interlocking these systems.
@@allthegearnoidea6752 Had to look that up. That is an interesting career.